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Filnik 21:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Stave church construction.jpg[edit]

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Regarding some recent edits[edit]

I just wondered if you were aware that Ovis aries (and hence the category) is the scientific name for domestic sheep. VanTucky 23:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern; I am aware of that. I asked about these confusing categories (species being categorized by both scientific and common name) at the Help Desk and was told that images could be placed in both categories. I plan to tidy a little among the sheep/ovies aries pictures and as I realized it would be to much to do manually I have asked user: siebrand for bot help by SieBot. It would be very handy to have all sheep images in one category before starting to categorize the images into subcategories. Jorva 00:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


etc, etc... I have reasons to undo some of your contributions and not others. BTW, you also should read about pornography: a nude photography isn't always pornography. But maybe you consider a large meaning of pornography? In that case, photos like Image:Babydoll02.jpg‎ are also considered pornographic in some cultures/countries... What I mean is that we should categorize in the pornography category only pictures that are sexually pornographic, because nudity as itself is not necessarily pornographic. Considering a nude picture pornographic is always a question of POV and culture. Not sexuality. --TwoWings 12:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

BTW I was wondering if you consider L'Origine du monde as pornography... -- 13:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
  1. Most of these issues can be solved by following this: Commons:Categories#Category_structure. We simply can't have all images of women categorized in cat:women as well as in specific subcategories. The cat:women would be filled with thousands of pictures and then become so hard navigated that it would be totally useless. I found a very sensible instruction on the cat:men page and copied it to the cat: woman page.
  2. As for the images similar toImage:Babydoll02.jpg‎: Nightgown is a subcategory. The trail is nightgowns->slips->women's underwear->women's clothing->women by subject->women.
  3. Regarding Image:Imditation of Christ by David Shankbone.jpg‎ : female toplessness is a direct subcategory to "cat:nude women". See #1
  4. Regarding the Lei photo I think it is obvius that it is pornography. Pornography is her job and the photo is on the internet in order to awake an interest for and to market Lei's work.
  5. Regarding Image:Aktfoto-4.jpg‎ please see "Nudism" on the English Wikipedia or on the Wikipedia of any preferred language. All nude pictures are not by default nudism. I have asked some nudist people I know about this picture and they agree. This is a picture of a nude model. Nothing else.

No, I do not consider all nude images of men and women as pornographic, but I am not impressed by so called "artistic" photos from a hotel room in a developing country of very young, probably poor, girls. This is not only pornography but also smells of prostitution. Besides; I am trying to achive some sort of equality and NPOV between the cat:men and the cat:women subcategories. A snapshot of a nude female is by no means more artistic than a snapshot of a nude male. Jorva 14:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Aktfoto-4.jpg‎ > OK I can admit that
  • Imditation of Christ by David Shankbone.jpg‎ > I understand what you mean but it would be a duplicate cat if category:Female toplessness in photography existed (or even something like category:Half-nude female in photography). It doesn't.
  • Babydoll02.jpg‎ > Same case: it would be a duplicate if category:Women in nightgowns existed but it doesn't. The cat:Nightgowns exists to depict nightgowns, not necessarily women. But I can understand the fact that the cat:women would be a lot too full!
  • Keeani Lei 5.jpg‎ > this is the case where I clearly desagree with you. It depicts a porn actress and it's actually categorized in Keeani Lei cat which is in the porn actress cat which is in porography cat. So the pornography cat is a parent cat! As for the picture itself, it is NOT pornography and it is legitimate to include it in cat:nude female in photography. -- 14:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
BTW I completely agree with your statement about male/female. That's exactly why I directly created the male and female sub-cats when I created the toplessness category. -- 15:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[edit]

Hi! I wonder why you didn't add the same warning [1] to other images in Category:Keeani Lei? Jhony08 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Because I have not looked there. I found this and some other similar images via other categories when trying to bring some order to :category:women with sub cats. Jorva 16:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Hello Jorva - I would like begin a new gallery in this category - H + Grand Duchesses of Hesse. What must I do to add a new under-category to put some pics in it? Can you give me the navigation-steps in baby-English? Sorry for my bad language. Thanks --Adelfrank 02:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adelfrank; I am not a native speaker of English myself, but I'll do my best to help you. I am a little confused if you want to create a new category och a new gallery, but I'll direct you to how to create a new category:
  1. Go to one of the images you want to put in the new sub-category. Click "edit".
  2. Add [[Category:Grand duchesses of Hesse]] or whatever you want to call your new category to the page. Save the page.
  3. Now the new category should appear as a red link in the bottom of the page. Click on the red link. Click "edit".
  4. Add [[Category:Duchesses]] or the name of another existing category to the page. Save the page.
Now you have created a new sub-category and linked it to an existing parent category. To put more images in the same category, repeat step 1 & 2.
I hope this helped you, if not do not hesitate to ask again. Good Luck! :-) Jorva 17:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

File tagging File:Stave_church_construction.jpg[edit]

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Category:Women by age[edit]

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--ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 18:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)