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Image:Water well tank.JPG[edit]

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Image:Dry skim milk.jpg[edit]

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Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, KVDP!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

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BotMultichillT 08:18, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


File:HeatAndColdStorageWithHeatPump.jpg[edit]

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File:Generic fighting style BlockTechnique 1.JPG[edit]

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File:Generic fighting style PCHoldTechnique 1.JPG[edit]

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File:SinkPlumbing.jpg[edit]

Could you tell me a little more about this picture. Where was the picture taken? Was this work done by you? 7/30/2009

Your diagrams[edit]

You have made a lot of nice diagrams. However there is one problem. Next time, can you try to use an SVG program, such as Inkscape to draw out diagrams instead. This might help you out. Keep contributing to Commons! Syed (talk) 12:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Drawing them out saves me time and doesn't require me to do all the work in front of a computer. Thanks anyway,

91.182.165.94 11:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Wing components diagram[edit]

Hi KVDP - I like your diagram "File:Wing_steering_components.JPG" but it's misleadingly labeled. The green sections should be described as "Flaps", not rudders, and are used only to increase overall lift, not for steering. The article Flight_control_surfaces gives a good outline. By the way, only flaps (not the the ailerons, on the wing tip) have spoilers/speed-brakes because ailerons already operate upwards to reduce lift.

I'll remove the image from the Rudder page, where it's misleading. Perhaps you could relabel it for "Flaps" on the Wing page and remove the reference to steering. Also, flaps are not normally used during cruise, they're tucked up right into the wing. A small extension is used for initial takeoff, climb and cruise is normally done at 0 flaps, full flaps reserved for landing, and flaps + speed break only when on stopping on the runway. 121.214.120.151 09:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


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Wizard191 (talk) 17:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Added my reply to deletion request.

KVDP (talk) 08:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

File:USSubmarines h2ome.jpg[edit]

File:USSubmarines h2ome.jpg: Very confusing. You say it's your own work, but you have someone else's permission, except that permission is just permission to put the image on the Commons (which isn't enough: we need a particular license under which other people can reuse it). I'm going to leave it to you to sort this out, but someone else is likely just to delete it if you don't. What we probably need here is an OTRS from the actual creator of the image. - Jmabel ! talk 22:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll fix this with the OTRS, however If I were to do this with all of my images that need this, it wouldn't get much done ...

KVDP (talk) 11:37, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

As this still doesn't have OTRS, I've nommed it for deletion. Sorry, but this stuff matters. I hope you can get an OTRS out of them. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:43, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

File:Health pictogram.png[edit]

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File:MAR Proteus.jpg[edit]

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Rain Water Collection/Filterering System[edit]

Can Some kind person help me build or add to an existing home/backyard a rain collection/filtering system? I would like the basics in detail on how to go about it in an economical yet very high tech / environmentally friendly way.

Thanks



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Biodiesel production image - Deletion[edit]

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Notification about possible deletion[edit]

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Andy Dingley (talk) 23:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


Commons:Deletion requests/Inaccurate tramway rail diagrams[edit]

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File:LD-process.PNG[edit]

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File tagging File:UBC Supermileage vehicle.jpg[edit]

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Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Waterpumps[edit]

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Andy Dingley (talk) 22:57, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I've withdrawn both of these. Provided that we're clear about just what they are, and what they aren't, they're within the borad scope of Commons. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

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File:Pipe_pump_module.png[edit]

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Carnildo (talk) 22:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Stirling engine image vandalism[edit]

File:Beta Stirling frame 1.png

No. Upload your own stuff if you really must, but DO NOT over-write the accurate work of others with your fictions. You have established a track-record of breaking images, even images that are already in use on other projects. It is not acceptable to do this, certainly not when your record of poor, inaccurate images has been so bad thus far. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Hydrogen-based domestic energy storage.svg[edit]

Guess what? Commons:Deletion requests/File:Hydrogen-based domestic energy storage.svg Andy Dingley (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


File:Gamma_Stirling_frame_1.png[edit]

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SidewinderX (talk) 13:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Overwriting other's images[edit]

re File:Accumulatory.png, and many others

Please stop doing this. There is no excuse for it, simply upload under another name. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

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Andy Dingley (talk) 14:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Vandalism[edit]

I've raised your recent uploads at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Vandalism#Unending_stream_of_misleading_images_from_user:KVDP

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Carnildo (talk) 23:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Do not overwrite existing files[edit]

Do not overwrite existing file that are not your own. If you do so, your uploads will be reverted/removed and your account may be blocked.[1] Instead, choose new names for your uploads as described in Commons:File naming. Also, your contributions are more likely to be helpful if you are careful to consult reliable sources such as textbooks when you make illustrations. You should not expect others to correct your work. Thank you. Walter Siegmund (talk) 17:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, I will always create new files in the future. As for expecting others to correct my work, note that I usually also make files that do not need correcting. It was only in these latter images I worked on (which are more technecally detailed) that I had been relying on others to some degree. I will be working more with members of other wiki-websites in the future though, so the input of the members required for these images will (hopefully) reduce to zero. 91.182.91.235 06:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Why not just learn something about the topic before creating the image, and saving yourself a load of wasted effort? Andy Dingley (talk) 08:19, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I try to learn as much as possible about the topics, and also study books (atleast to what's available in local libraries, ...) in my spare time. Regrettfully, I simply don't have that much time, and I also only see the creation of some images (it depends on a case by case basis) as part of a bigger project). The images I made is just something "extra" I do, although I find this "extra" work also quite important.

91.182.212.53 09:57, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Despite past warnings, you're still over-writing good files with bad files:
File:Manual_transmission_clutch_Neutral.PNG
User_talk:Pieter_Kuiper#Manual_transmission_neutral
Please stop. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I thought it would be OK, I discussed it even with Stef (ArmLamp). At present, the schematic are very inaccurate and misleading (the parts don't slide in as pictured on the schematic, see the schematic I uploaded, and the 3D model). I can forward the mails if you give me your mailadres to prove I discussed it with him.

91.182.41.123 13:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not especially interested in engaging in dialogue with you. Past experience has been that it's a sizable waste of time and you learn nothing from it. You still can't even work a login dialog!
First of all, Do not overwrite existing files Just don't. Your technical accuracy is inadequate for you to be let loose doing this. Maybe come back and ask again when you've produced a few technical images that don't have glaring errors all over them. In particular, why couldn't you at least have uploaded to a new filename?
This was one of a series of images. Were you planning on doing the whole set, because there is value in a consistently drawn set, even when not perfect.
The original image wasn't broken, but yours was. You made it worse. (discussed at Pieter's) If you do care about this, find out the difference between a "crash gearbox" and a "synchromesh". It wasn't wrong (not all have synchros), the simpler non-synchro box is easier to comprehend as a diagram and there is a certain level of simplification in a diagram that makes it more useful as a diagram, even if it's "less precise" that way. You repeatedly defend your own right to upload unreadable scrawls, yet here you're picking holes in another's work! Andy Dingley (talk) 13:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
I do not know much about gear boxes, but I completely agree. KVDP had not even looked how the image that your replaced was used. His drawing had a strange central perspective, and was very unclear. Such replacements damage good articles. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 14:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

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Copyright violations[edit]

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File:Manual_transmission_Neutral.PNG[edit]

The manual transmission images you've uploaded have some major flaws:

  • The images are cropped in a way that cuts off parts of the reverse gear and the shift arm.
  • The position of the shift arm does not match that of the selector forks.
  • In the reverse-gear image, the reversing gear overlaps the gears it's supposed to be meshing with.
  • The numbers in the image descriptions do not appear in the images.
  • The "clutch" in the images bears no resemblance to a real clutch.

If these issues are not corrected in the near future, I will nominate the images for deletion. --Carnildo (talk) 00:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


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Others in the series too. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

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Image fixes re Commons:Deletion requests/File:Induction motor windings for electromagnet.png[edit]

There are many, many steps involved here. They're simple enough, but they all need to be right.

  • Helical coils of wire are conventionally drawn so as to show which is the front and which is the back by drawing the back side as broken wires where they cross under the front.
  • The 'polarity' of a magnetic field is indicated by North and South markings. '+' and '-' are used instead to indicate the positive and negative polarity of a DC current. It is wrong to confuse these.
There is no similar polarity for an AC motor. 'Live' or 'Phase' and 'Neutral' are more usually a matter for single phase supplies (relative to safe earthing practice), rather than motors and appliances themselves. 'Neutral' does have some significance for three phase motors. Phase in three-phase motors is usually indicated as 1,2,3 with the colours red, yellow, blue. The new EC colour scheme of black, white and grey is unhelpful.
  • Electric motor, not electric engine.
  • A motor depends on getting the magnetic polarity right. If it's wrong altogether, the motor (in many cases) just goes backwards. If it's partly wrong, it won't work at all. Your bipolar armature showed two windings on two poles, but they were the wrong way round (NS - SN) rather than NS - NS. The intention of such a winding is that it behaves as a single overall magnet (i.e. N & S at each end), rather than two opposed magnets.
  • Where there are field coils (for any electrical machine), these will usually be arranged so that their effective poles (i.e. inner ends) are of alternating polarity across the phases. This depends on the combination of the helical 'hand' with which the coils are wound (usually all the same way), the direction of DC current flow through them, and also on the sequence in which they're connected together, i.e. are adjacent inner ends connected, or are they wired in 'zig-zag' fashion, with the inner of one connected to the outer of the other.
The Oz diagram was mis-drawn geometrically, so one coil just wasn't a helix. This then confused the author into connecting the rest of the coils up in an inconsistent manner.
  • To find the direction of magnetic North in an electromagnet, use the corkscrew rule (this is badly described on WP, following an incorrect merge, as that article confuses it with the right-hand rule). This uses the direction of the windings and the current to tell you the direction of magnetism.
  • An electric motor does not work by magnetic attraction (not since the 1800s, at least). Instead there are two magnetic fields, not just one and a piece of attractible iron, and it is the intersection of these two fields and their resultant cross product that gives rise to a force, according to Fleming's left hand rule for motors.

I hope you are successful in your drawing project. However we already have many similar images available. It would be useful to make new images that we need, rather than merely to duplicate. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    • Hi Andy,

I just received this message yesterday (1 february) and the image allready seems deleted, so fixing the image at wikimedia commons is no longer an option. I'll fix the same images at Appropedia instead. I've been quite busy lately (my wikipedia/wikimedia activities are but offshoots/tips of the iceberg), and I also don't check my messages regularly at wikimedia commons).

Secondly, perhaps that we can conversate a bit more efficiently in the future to correct images. I'm thinking of simply exchanging e-mailadresses; that way you can just mail me a rough handdrawing and mail it. As you noticed before, I don't always now exactly how to correct an image based on text, and if you're intrested in my proposal to work with me on getting some 3D models of electric engines right, exchanging the e-mailadress will be beneficial too (I can then forward you 3d models in progress).

Finally, I was hoping that you could give me some help on figuring out the workings of a pancake DC engine (no information on this at wikipedia, require information for new modelling project). The furthest I came was http://www.web-books.com/eLibrary/ON/B1/B1396/106MB1396.html However, even with the schematic, I still don't quite get the difference between the pancake engine and a regular brushless engine; I'm guessing it has something to do with using several brushless engines stacked together (connected to a same shaft). Looking at the the schematic, I don't even see any poles in the center (stator) which would propell/attract the electromagnets at the rotor, so I don't even see how it works at all. Another mystery to me is how the engine does not require a motor controller (similar to brushed engines).

I allready went to allot of people beforehand befor bothering you with this, but none have replied/gave any information. I also found no suitable literature on it in my local libraries.

Thanks in advance, User:KVDP 14:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

That website describes the old sort of brushless DC motor, but now there are two rather different types of brushless DC motor.
The first brushless DC motors (as described here, often computer fans) were commutated DC motors, much as previous permanent magnet designs with brushes had been. However for reliability, they replaced the mechanical brushes that did the commutation with electronics - Hall effect switches. To replace the commutator (or slip rings) completely, the motor was then turned "inside out" so that the rotor became a permanent magnet and the coils (previously the rotor) become stationary.
"Brushless motors" now often means those extra-lightweight designs, such as are used for model aircraft. These are quite different to the old sort. Rather than having separate sensors to detect armature position, they sense the back EMF from the windings themselves. These windings are wound as a three phase AC motor. When starting, or at slow speeds, they actually run as synchronous AC motors (with a permanent magnet rotor) - the controller inverter generates a 3 phase AC signal which is sufficient to drive the motor up to a speed where the back EMF becomes detectable.
Most of these motors (but not all nowadays) are "outrunners", where the rotor is cup shaped and sits outside the stationary coils. This is because it was initially hard to make a small enough magnet of adequate power, also because multi-pole magnets needed to be even larger. Multi-pole magnets were mostly used for applications like disk drives with direct drive from the motor spindle, where not only average speed control was important, but actually a constant angular speed around each rotation: more poles being simply smoother.
Pancake motors are relatively simple. They are simply topological deformations of these brushless motors, so as to be wide and flat, rather than long and thin. The distinction is that the magnetic flux is no longer radial, but is now parallel to the axis. There is now more "cross section" to this flux (in pancake geometry), for a given motor volume, so pancake motors are used where high torque / low speed is needed for a given power. There is one inside my remarkably quiet LG washing machine, directly attached to the back of the drum.
Pancake motors do not have "several engines stacked together". Although they could do, I've never heard of one. They also require almost exactly the same control electronics as a can-style brushless motor, and they exist in both Hall effect and EMF-sensing forms.
There is no "centre" to a pancake motor. The flux has been rotated to be axial, so where was previously "central" has now become "adjacent" instead (i.e. shifted alongside on the axis).
You should stop calling motors "engines". You also need to realise that describing motors as "electromagnets" is misleading and they do not work by attracting or repelling magnets. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
I read trough your text carefully, but I still don't get how exactly a pancake DC motor is made and how it works. I mentioned http://www.web-books.com/eLibrary/ON/B1/B1396/106MB1396.html as it contained 2 images (although these still weren't enough to make me understand the motor). I had about as much schooling in electronics and engine design as William Kamkwamba, and thus I don't have much use with text to understand the basic design of a motor I don't know yet. What I need are simple schematics or animations so that I can understand the workings. I allready looked at instruction manuals, ... of pancake DC motors (ie the Perm 132 (http://www.electricmotorsport.com/store/ems_ev_parts_motors_pmg132.php ), Angi Motors (http://www.agnimotors.com/home/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=47 ), but they aren't fully drawn out. Ultimately, I need enough schematics/wiring diagrams to draw out a pancake DC motor in 3D. Another thing I need is info on how the reversing of the polarity is done (ie motor controllers, ... ) The elimination of brushes in favor of Hall effect sensors seems very intresting, but ultimately I need to get the basic design/wiring done first, and then we can upgrade the design so that it's the best possible design for use in the developing world (I made some comments at http://www.appropedia.org/Comparison_of_electric_engines ).

I'm hoping that you can refer me to some images I can use, or (if need be) refer me to books on the subject. I was hoping to get the basic designs ready relatively soon though since the first 3D model of an electric engine is almost ready, and I will need to get started on the second model (based on the pancake DC).

In addition, I am allready searching for getting a dynamo and/or alternator design done. I was thinking that as my first 3D model is allready a 3-phase induction engine, it should be useful to work as a alternator aswell (I read this somewhere). I'm not sure about this though, since I saw that induction-like alternators seem to have magnets (claw-pole magnets). Also, I was thinking that if I wish to use my induction model, I would probably best reduce the numbers of poles aswell (ie from 36 to 12 or even less).

Can we possibly also communicate via e-mail ? If I provide you snapshots of the models, we can work much quicker. Also, snapshots can be placed of the model at wikipedia, as a way to give something back to the community and reward you for your work. The 3D model itself will also be available via Google warehouse, so we can help other people/engineers aswell. User:KVDP 17:42, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

  • You cannot possibly expect to draw a mechanism if you don't understand how it works. Your past track record is that you are incapable of copying an image faithfully, without the temptation to "improve" it along the way. Without either prior knowledge, or careful duplication without fiddling, I think your efforts are unlikely to succeed.
The 'Brushless pancake motor' illustration on the website you cite is a reasonably good image for demonstrating the important principles of a pancake motor, without getting lost in the details. A Lynch motor is a currently interesting development of "state of the art" pancake motors for electric vehicle use, although drawing why it's distinct from a pancake motor requires understanding of both, and is also not of use to a reader until they understand the basic conceptual pancake motor too.
If you're thinking of such pancake motors (or similar) as generators, then take a look at [2][3][4], and of course Hugh Piggott's books. Claw pole alternators are used almost universally in cars, because they have only a single rotor winding and simple slip rings (the function of the interleaved claws is to make a single axial coil generate the rotor flux of a number of radial fields alternating in polarity). However they're a lot of iron for their power and really need to run at a higher speed, so for small wind turbines the pancake is favoured instead. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
I looked at the websites you mentioned; though I find that they're nothing like the induction motor (squirreI cage type) I'm working on; this doesn't even have any windings on the rotor nor any permanent magnets.
I mentioned that I wasn't sure about the use as an alternator, since I saw an image of a alternator that seemed to resemble an induction motor, yet had claw-pole magnets; see http://www.marcovw.nl/Motor/Dynamo/dynamo.htm (image 2)
Regarding the windings, I found one image at the websites you mentioned which may be useful, yet I'm not sure whether I can use it as is, since I saw that the motors at these websites are quite different (as seen at http://www.otherpower.com/bartmil.html ) This image is the one drawn by hand in 3 colors at http://www.otherpower.com/trips2.html However, with induction motors, the winding is not done in the vertical plane, but in the horizontal plane, and I'm not sure whether this affects the winding. Also, this image is of a alternator and not a motor, does that change anything on the winding ?
Finally, I still find that conversating via pictures/text sent via e-mail (in word or openoffice format) would be much easier; I know you don't like to spend much time talking to me/wasting time and we generally simply lose much time and sometime don't get to an actual solution since we often talk "past another". The e-mailing method would make our communication smoother.

User:KVDP 09:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I am confused as to what you're trying to draw here. You seem to be switching between pancake motors, alternators for wind turbines and induction motors. Pick one and stick with it! They are not interchangeable.
The Marcovw site describes the common claw-pole alternator used in cars. These can be used as generators for wind turbines, but not (IMHO) very well. They need to be spun faster than a turbine's speed, so this needs an extra mechanical drive. They used to be popular and they're certainly cheap and easy, but these days I'd recommend a pancake design instead. It's easy to make a wind turbine, hard to erect the tower for a turbine - so lightweight, simple turbines are worth extra effort to make, as they simplify the tower. This type of alternator also needs a power supply to energise its field coil, so it only works when connected to the battery and regulator.
It might be possible to use this type of alternator as a motor, but I've never heard of it being done - it's just too awkward. It is simpler to use an induction motor, which is also widespread and commonly available as cheap scrap.
Induction motors, by definition, do not have windings on their rotor or slip rings and brush gear to supply current to it. They work by induction instead. The rotor field is generated by flowing currents in the rotor, but these currents are induced through movement and the stator windings instead. Avoiding slip rings is a major simplification for any motor, hence their popularity.
The wind turbine alternators at otherpower are not motors. They resemble pancake motors, and if connected to a suitable controller they could even be used as back-EMF sensing brushless motors. However they have no such controller, so they're just permanent magnet magneto alternators. The windings on a sophisticated motor are slightly different (in ways that don't concern us now), but broadly they are close enough to be considered as similar.
The "vertical plane" should be described as the axial and radial directions instead. "Vertical" depends on which way up you hold the machine. Nor is the radial direction a Cartesian plane, as it's curved into a cylinder. The change from cylindrical machines to pancakes affects the shape and mechanics, but not really the electromagnetism of the situation. Try to find diagrams that show the magnetic lines of flux, as that's what really matters here.
Although they don't describe pancake motors, if you want to understand induction motors and elecrical machines in general, I'd suggest you find a 1900-ish (or at least, 1950s) textbook on electrical engineering (look at my Commons scans too). These are explaining a "new" technology, so they're usually pretty good at doing it, wwithout assuming previous electrical knowledge. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Looked at your scans, in particular
Given that the Lundell generator confirms what I allready thought, ie that brushed engines can double as alternators, and given my requirements in regards to extremely simple construction/set-up (see image description in file at Appropedia), I came up with this. Can you tell me whether this engine can be made (I assume so) and doubles as both engine and alternator ? Also, can you tell me whether it would be more efficient than the original Rankin Kennedy rotary converter (I assume so since the original seemed to only have 1 pole (positive) as the center electromagnet, unless it charges onlt parts of the center electromagnet using the brushes (not sure on this) ?
The first engine design has been slightly delayed (most of teh work allready done though, should be finished in a week or 2). This design would probably be a very good addition to the first design. Perhaps that once this design is complete, you can take a look at it, and tell me whether it's correct and whether it can be used as a electricity generator aswell ?
Thanks in advance

User:KVDP 16:24, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand a word of this. It bears no rational comparison to any sensible or useful arrangement of parts. As such, I cannot comment on its viability. The words that describe it appear to have been put together randomly. You cheerfully throw around phrases like "alternator" and "brushed electric engine", but not in any way that makes sense. You describe a three phase motor/alternator, but you've drawn one with a two phase stator. Your conclusions, particularly brushgear being more reliable than electronics, have no basis in fact.
There is nothing that I can contribute to this. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:29, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
re http://www.appropedia.org/File:Brushed_electric_engine.PNG
Your repeated refusal to learn anything from past discussions here highlights how your contributions both here, and at Appropedia, are valueless. These diagrams were deleted here, not because their is some personal vendetta against you, but because they are just very, very wrong. This is simply not how such things work, and your descriptions of them is no more than randomly shuffling words like some cargo cult. This nonsense makes John Frum weep. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:36, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Offcourse you can contribute, given that you know more of electric engine design than I do, atleast that's my understanding of things. Can you thus explain to me how the original rotary converter from your scans worked, and why my engine is wrong, and only has a two phase stator ? The stator has 6 permanent magnets, arranged intermittently (N-S-N-S-N-S) so I would assume that it is 3-phase.

The inner electromagnets are not arranged intermittently, instead these electromagnets are made up from wires, and wind along 2 holes in the plastic board. The wires are looped around 1 "pillar" in the board; the reason why both holes are marked with a same polarity. There are 6 "pillars"/12 holes, hence this yields again a N-S-N-S-N-S setup. I fail to see why, with 6 poles on both stator and rotor, a 3-phase alternator/engine can not be accomplished. As I understand it, if you have a number of poles that is dividable by 3, and you arrange the wiring accuratly, you would have a 3-phase engine or alternator.

Eventhough you probably dislike informing me about things over and over, I think that my project is valuable enough to help me along with it. Ie if a useble simple alternator/engine can be modelled out, this would be extremely beneficial in regards to humanitarian assistance. If you don't like to help me nonentheless, can you refer me to someone who does ?

91.182.254.160 07:38, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Willingness aside, I just can't help you. I understand engineering, not alchemy. The Western Scientific Method is all about communication and repeatability: Faraday describes "an electromagnet" or "a field coil" and writes it up, using terms like "positive" for DC current and "North-seeking" for a magnetic pole. When I read his notes, 160 years later, I can still reproduce these things. If I start to talk about "positive magnets" instead, then I'm on my own - I can no longer build on a century or two of electrical engineers before me. Appropropedia's world of fictional science has as much in common with Avatar and Harry Potter as it does with making a workable creation. You can write this stuff down as often as you want, but you won't ever get to build something that works.
I don't even understand your design. It's just too hard to read your description. You seem to be placing permanent magnets on the stator and then spinning a rotor with a winding on it inside this. Not wrong, but probably not the best way - it would imply a spinning coil and thus brushgear, when it's easier to spin the magnets and avoid troublesome brushgear. I don't know any more than this, your description uses words in ways other than what they usually mean, so of course normal engineers from the real world can no longer follow it. That rotor coil isn't an electromagnet, it's a coil that you're hoping to generate some current in. Does it use slip rings or a commutator? I can't tell. If this design does anything and it "works", then it's about as good as a high school experiment to make a motor in class: interesting demonstration, but why make or use this design to try and generate power?
If you want to make a wind turbine, use the Piggott designs, and read the American website with the Volvo hubs. That's a good design: it works, it's fairly efficient, it's fairly easy to build. In particular, it has all the good bits: simple permanent magnets for field, static stator coils for output (no brushgear). OK, so it needs a supply of rare earth magnets from China, but that's how the world works these days. There's a guy in South Africa building turbines commercially from recycled hard drive magnets. I also don't see an overwhelming need for a machine that is both motor or generator. There's just not much need for that and it usually makes the design less good at being one or both of them. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
The idea for this alternator had been inspired on a regular brushed engine, which I combined with the radial air core design. Given that the air core/"coil" (too as with regular brushed engines) too was spun rather than the magnets, I did it this way. Also, I thought that there would be much less effort required to rotate the coils rather than the magnets, so I assumed this would be more efficient. That said, if you think it would be more efficient to rotate the magnets instead, I can do it that way too. Also, the polarity of the coils/electromagnets (depending on what function it has ie alternator or engine) can still be changed if this is needed.

So far for the modifications that can be done. Regarding the need of both functions (alternator + engine): this is needed due to my own designs that require either the one or the other in different situations. Regarding slip rings or commutator: it uses slip rings.

I think I'll just get started and ask someone to start modelling of it; as the model advances, it will become clearer. Then, you can still advice me on how to improve it (by rotating magnets or coils, and/or by changing my arrangement of the polarities of the coils, ...)

Regarding the Volvo hub alternator (which I assume is this design), I don't really understand it (it seems to use magnets in a circle, with coils encircling each individual magnet). Also, I don't like using rare magnets; it needs to be something that is very basic, easy to understand and built, and which uses commonly available materials. I'll give you the link to the model once it's complete, or post images and then you can advise me further on this second design.

KVDP (talk) 15:16, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


Are you getting hung up on the "rare" in "rare earth magnet"? Despite the name, they're actually extremely common: there are probably a dozen of them within arm's reach of you right this minute. --Carnildo (talk) 20:12, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Firstly the air core design.[5] This works by using an air-cored stator and spinning a single magnet inside it. Those coils don't rotate. It's a great design for a school demonstration of a 3 phase generator. As a working device though, it's poor. There's no magnetic circuit (i.e. iron pole pieces) and so it makes inefficient use of the magnetic field. Maybe that's not such a bad thing - it makes it "inefficient" in use of materials, but it doesn't make it inefficient in terms of power out / power in. Its big advantage is the stationary coils, so as to not need brushgear.
Modern low-maintenance generators (and some motors too) are using this same broad approach of spinning magnets and stationary coils. This is how the Piggott wind turbine generator works, although that also uses the brake disk of the old Volvo hub to form a magnetic circuit and so improve efficiency.
  • The brake disk generator is very simple.[6] It spins the magnets, leaves the coils in place. We like this, it avoids brushgear. It has two differences from the one above:
Firstly it uses an axial flux, not a radial flux. Instead of putting the magnet inside the coil (closer to the axle) it puts them alongside the coil (further along the axle). This makes it easier to make, if you have a workshop full of already flat car parts, but don't have a lathe. It's also a popular way to make pancake motors, where you need a motor that can deliver high torque at low speed directly without a gearbox - they're becoming more and more common on electric vehicles, especially small ones like electric scooters.
Secondly it has iron in there too, to make the magnetic circuit more efficient. There are two pieces, one is the old brake disk that's used as a mechanical support for the magnets and also links the flux through their back faces. Secondly there is some similar non-rotating iron at the back of the coils, linking them as a circuit too. This is the laminated steel ring that they inset into the plywood.
The output of this is AC. If you wire the coils up right, you can have either single or three phase. As they're using this for off-grid power, they probably need this as DC, so they'll use a rectifier stack (six diodes, same as a car alternator) too. You can't control the AC frequency, that depends on the wind speed, so DC is easier to handle.
  • Your design.[7]
This began as a design with wound coils in the stator, but you've replaced these with permanent magnets. That's OK. You've also taken the stator coils of the air core design, placed those in the centre and spun them. You need a connection to these coils, so that now involves three slip-rings and brushgear (not a commutator) if you're plannning a three phase machine. You could use a commutator if you wanted a DC machine.
This brings in a couple of issues. Not wrong, not unworkable, but less good than other designs. Firstly you've introduced brushgear, which needs maintenance and can go wrong. The brake disk alternator doesn't need brushgear so it's easier to build and more reliable. Secondly the magnetic flux design of this will suck, because there's no iron core within the rotating armature. You need a lump of iron inside the coils, so that more of the flux passes through the coils, rather than just passing between the magnets outside of the rotor and "short circuiting" itself.
This design might "work", but it won't work well. It will work less well than other designs and it's harder to make. There's no point in having it. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:12, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for this message Andy, this allready makes things allot clearer to me. First I'll explain why I modified the ranking converter. In essence, as I understand it, the rankin converter uses a single coil mounted on the inside of 6 magnets (which where electromagnets as I know read from your text). My intent is to have a setup akin to a regular brushed engine, hence with 2 sets of poles (one permanent magnets, the other electromagnets), hereby allowing use of the device as both alternator and engine. This also doesn't seem possible with the Volvo-gear alternator design you showed: ie I only see a set of magnets on the outside, and fixed coils wound around the magnets themselves. I'm thus assuming that you wouldn't be able to use this device as an engine. Another thing is that it looks different (aswell as a bit ugly) from conventional brushed engine setups, and it is thus more difficult to understand.
What I didn't get though from your image of the Rankin rotary converter is how exactly it worked: it seems to me that, although it seems to have but a single coil; it may be possible that sections of these coil are used intermittently, in effect working like 6 poles. I got this impression due to the stripes (-) at the outside of the coil, and the 6 lines between the coil and the first inner ring (which I'm guessing is a (first) slip ring. Depending on whether it indeed has this functionality, I might use the rotary converter setup as how it is drawn instead.
In regards to the not having a core of iron inside the coils; I'm thinking that this could be fixed (in case we stick with this design, see paragraph above). This can be fixed by ie assembling the plastic frame by means of 6 iron connecting rods, having the rods placed just between each hole, and thus effectively having the coils wound around the rods. If each individual rod needs to be connected together, this can also be done.

User:KVDP 07:44, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

The rotary converter image, unfortunately, wasn't uploaded to help generator designers like yourself, but to describe a different and rather complicated machine. It's not entirely helpful here. Its rotor is, as you've recognised, is six coils. They're wired in a "zig zag" arrangement between the two slip rings (the small hollow circles). What's confusing is that they're also wound on a gramme ring iron core - a single continuous ring. This has the effect of giving a smoother output, as the coils pass the various stator poles, however it doesn't change the fact they're six separate coils.
The next problem is that it's not a generator or a motor, but a rotary converter. This converts AC to DC (some do it the other way). The rotor coil is wired to both slip rings and a commutator. The slip rings are on the inside for the AC supply, the DC output is taken from a commutator (not shown) with the brushes that are labelled + & -. This isn't necessarily a good prototype for either motor or generator.
Adding an iron core to a rotor is best done with a stack of circular disks, or disks with cog-like teeth (the windings go in the gaps). Bars parallel to the axle don;t really help - they're short in the direction of the flux, where they need to be long, they're long in the direction that gives minor losses due to eddy currents (less of an issue). Andy Dingley (talk) 20:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
  • A note on three phase machines. As generators, they need to have "three phase windings" on their output winding (stator or rotor, depending on design). They don't care how the field is supplied, by one winding, by many, or by permanent magnets. This winding needs to have three "phases" to its windings, and this pattern of the three phases is repeated, usually by a number of repetitions equal to n_{repeats} = \frac{n_{poles}} {n_{phases}} (i.e. we end up with one rotor polepiece for each stator polepiece, so that they remain in phase).
So here we have 6 poles, but they're wired as two phases. They repeat three times, but it's only a two phase system, not a three phase system. As we don't expose the neutral between the two phases, this the same thing as a single phase system. If we added more poles (to give the same frequency at slower rotation speeds), then we'd have to use 8 poles, but couldn't do it with 9 poles. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

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World forest cover then and now[edit]

Hi, and thanks for your dedicated work on illustrations. Your recent map File:World forest cover then and now.png has a number of issues, which make it of little use at the moment. There are a number of errors (most of Australia is desert not forest) and the colours are not suggestive of the real situation. I think the colours used in your first source (red for lost forest, yellow for remnant patchy forests) are far more suggestive. Also the data seems to be somewhat outdated as unfortunately much changed in the last decade. Furthermore the level of detail is really poor, and would be much better to get a more detailed source. At last, one of the problems with the PNG format is that is hard to edit collaboratively, that's why SVG would be preferable. Hope these suggestions help, cheers. --ELEKHHT 22:12, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Elekhh,

I changed the coloring of Australia, this was indeed a big flaw (got a little tired at the end). Regarding the colors, I think mine are better, but it depends from what angle you see the image:

  • if you want to view the map to see what forests have been destroyed, ... yellow and red indicate this better
  • if you look at the map (like me) to be informed on what forests are still around today, the clearer and less clear green are better colors. I mostly made the image to aid in reforestation, so it helps to know what forests are still present, so that additional trees can be planted around these.

Regarding the source and level of detail, I can't really help in this, but actually I find the simplified howstuffworks map better. This, as the average reader isn't going to look at the map in detail and can thus understand a simpler map faster and he will also remember it more clearly.

Regarding the being outdated, I don't think that much would have changed, and it also doesn't matter anyhow (forests actually need to be restored to almost their initial size, ie which is more or less the size as how they were back in 6000 BC; giving this huge difference in land cover, the tiny difference a more accurate map provides doesn't matter anyhow.

KVDP (talk) 08:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I still think is heavily misleading to see those huge areas of green for instance along all the eastern coast of the US or in central Europe, or most of Borneo (Where the diagram indicates 1985 not 2010), or Sulawesi, or SE-Australia (where it indicates ca.1800)... The diagram shows many times more forest than it exists.
Regarding "forests actually need to be restored to almost their initial size" well good luck with reforesting the deserts of Australia.
I forgot to mention, those segmented lines also look clumsy, maybe you can turn them into splines. --ELEKHHT 13:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I compared the areas of you mentioned between my image and the howstuffworks map, and I find that I took it over it over fairly exact. It may be so that the map has been outdated a bit since then, but then I would need another map/data to change my image (if not, the image will again be disputed by administrators on the prowl for the tiniest of mistake; I think I might even know some such administrators around these parts ... ;) In any case, I think that the map as how it is know is referenced/accurate enough for now. I also think that any map (even somewhat outdated) is better than no map at all, and hence it is allready useful for some wikipedia articles. Offshoot versions can be made by others so as to incorporate newer data (in practice, this would mean that some parts now marked bright green should be changed to lighter green).
Regarding the reforesting: offcourse I'm not going to do the reforesting myself, I am merely pointing out that nationally, efforts should be made to reforest the parts in their country marked with forest, even those forests of 6000 BC
Regarding the segmented lines, I can only correct these by hand (I'm not very adept with the GIMP). This seems to me a bit of a large job, with little merit, so I rather not.

91.182.246.246 16:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the area I'm familiar with (the Columbia Plateau), the current climate is steppe, not forest. It may have been forest 8000 years ago, but you'll never get trees to grow there naturally today. --Carnildo (talk) 19:56, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
That's a good point; indeed much vegetation zones have changed since then, and I'm also not certain whether trees could be grown on all of the locations marked on the map. Then again, I think this is also subject to change, ie if more forests are made in the surrounding area, there is automatically allot more water available (trees transpire making air more humid, the soil itself changes, ... I think that more info/sources and/or perhaps new research (not sure whether significant research has ever been done on the potential of reforesting all of these areas) would be needed. In any case, I'm stating reforestation should be done based on the vegetation as how it was in the 1900's (thus not 6000 BC), I'm only using this map as a guideline since the forests as how they were in 6000 BC would be much closer to how they were in the 1900's as opposed to how they are now.

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An information...[edit]

Where did you take this pic? There's no location indication, and i need it in order to categorize it properly for country, thanks !! -- Blackcat (talk) 11:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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Wikinews[edit]

Your map image of human trafficking, which you submitted to Wikipedia, was used on a story in Wikinews! Thank you, Crtew Crtew (talk) 23:54, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

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Michael Reynolds[edit]

I found some images of the architect and his work at the NARA archives, and created a category for him, and added your uploads. also added images to his english wp article. hes new to me, but i like his work.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 08:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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File:Map prevailing winds on earth.png[edit]

A concern has been raised within the meteorology project in regards to this image. The main issue is that it shows the trade wind easterlies eminating from the Dakotas. If you could fix the image to replace the yellow northeasterly arrow with a blue west-southwesterly arrow in that area, it would quell the debate and be appreciated. Thanks for creating this image in the first place. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:17, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Diving cylinder diagram[edit]

Hello KVDP, and thank you for creating the helpful diagram of a scuba diving cylinder. I've noticed a few errors, however:

  • The title should read "cylinder" rather than "cilinder"
  • Item 3 is the Pillar valve outlet (A-clamp/DIN)
  • Item 4 is the Diving regulator (FS)
  • Item 6 is the Submersible pressure gauge (SPG), not (FS)
  • Item 7 is the Secondary mouthpiece (SS) or "octopus", not secundairy
  • Item 9 is the Pillar valve knob

http://www.padi.com/scuba/scuba-gear/scuba-gear-descriptions-tips/scuba-unit/default.aspx describes these parts.

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File:Theism.PNG[edit]

Hi! Sorry, I saw your message on en:WP, but completely forgot to act upon it. I undeleted File:Theism.PNG. The only other file deleted at the same period is File:Christianity symbol.png; File:Ichys.svg is an exact duplicate. Please tell me when you are done retrieving the file. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:17, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the help.

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Your use of multiple Wikipedia accounts[edit]

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