User talk:Kiyoweap

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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Kiyoweap!
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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 15:05, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Pre 1923 sources[edit]

Hello! I noticed that you added a number of sources to images (example) to corroborate PD status. I don't mind this, but as far as I understand copyright i) this could only be relevant if the image is actually a scan from the book you cite (Are you sure it is?) and ii) for two dimensional old art objects, the (re-)publication in books is not relevant for copyright per Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag. Only the production year of the artwork matters. bamse (talk) 19:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi bamse. Yes, I'm begining to see pre-1923 publication for non-US publication is not too meaningful, so I'm probably not going to upload the obviously poor quality monochromes, except maybe as a temporary image, to be replaced by a color photo. On that count, I should probably delete tag the flying granary image (File:Shingisan engi-flying granary scene-Murayama-ed-Wakanmeigasen-pp55-6.jpg), but I realized only after I initiated the upload process that this picture was already available in color.
On copyright policy, I too initially didn't think uploaders had the burden of providing initial publication for centuries old art. And it looks like many images are uploaded with that understanding, using Permission: {{PD-Japan}} {{PD-Art}} tags. But I reread the section under copyright for art, and it stated that artwork (paintings) is not considered published by virtue of being created or shown in galleries. I think I also read there, or elsewhere that for art that is anonymous or is a pseudo-author, there still was the burden of establishing first publication. So I am not quite comprehending the status right now, since I am getting these mixed signals. --Kiyoweap (talk) 17:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)