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Request reason: "Please don't use block as punishment. I am, as blocked editor, convincing administrators that the block is no longer necessary because I understand for what I am blocked; I will not do it again (edit-wars and etc.), and I will make productive contributions instead. Based on that a block is not intended as punishment and "it's meant to prevent me from making disruptive edits" I think it will be right to unblock me. I acknowledge that my last edits were not perfect, I know that reverts isn't solve an issue. Also after my first block I was trying not to violate 3 revert rule, but all in all as I understand active reverts (even two) is not welcomed, so I will consider this. My will to be here is not to edit-war or etc. I just wish to enlarge files and information about my country. I apologize to all users with whom I was in controversy. I'll do my best not to be in this situation again, I will refrain from reverts and in case of controversial issue I'll appeal to other users and admins. We are all humans and not in the mood we can make big mistakes, I acknowledge my mistakes, and give you my word don't repeat them again. I am active editor of Wikipedia projects, I need Commons for my photos and own works."
Decline reason: "I agree with Elcobbola and Taivo. This is your third unblock request and therfore i revoked your talkpage access. --Steinsplitter (talk) 18:23, 8 March 2015 (UTC)"

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Unblock request[edit]

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Request reason: "I am, as blocked editor, convincing administrators that the block is no longer necessary because I understand for what I am blocked; I will not do it again (edit-wars and etc.), and I will make productive contributions instead. Based on that a block is not intended as punishment and "it's meant to prevent me from making disruptive edits" I think it will be right to unblock me. I acknowledge that my last edits were not perfect, I know that reverts isn't solve an issue. Also after my first block I was trying not to violate 3 revert rule (Magog said that it is only in EN wiki, but it's also written here: WP:NICETRY), but all in all as I understand active reverts (even two) is not welcomed, so I will consider this. My will to be here is not to edit-war or etc. I just wish to enlarge files and information about my country. I apologize to all users with whom I was in controversy. I'll do my best not to be in this situation again, I will refrain from reverts and in case of controversial issue I'll appeal to other users and admins. We are all humans and not in the mood we can make big mistakes, I acknowledge my mistakes, and give you my word don't repeat them again.
p.s. I have read Magog's suggested WP:GAB and now more better understand that topic."
Decline reason: "You have twice been blocked, you apologized twice, you were unblocked twice and you started edit warring again twice. This is third time. I do not believe, that third will bé different, if unblocked. Taivo (talk) 11:23, 5 March 2015 (UTC)"

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--g. balaxaZe 08:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Taivo a block is not intended as punishment and this last situation was different than others, as you can check FoP page, I reverted only twice, because I wanted not to violate 3RR and after me other users also reverted (or changed) that controversial edit. So this was not simply my wished edit-war. Also it is important that previous block was in February of 2014. I am editor and approved user of Georgian Wikipedia I need Commons for my maps and photos, edit-war is not my job here but sometimes merely I was making mistakes for what I appologized above. I think and according Commons rules also it will be better to unblock.--g. balaxaZe 17:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Geagea advice what to do, what can I do more than that I written above in unblock request? Is there somewhere written that after two blockes user must not be unblocked? I apologized for the last controversial edit-war and explained everything ... --g. balaxaZe 18:28, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Taivo, Geagea, Magog the Ogre anyone ? --g. balaxaZe 09:12, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


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Unblock[edit]

Unblock request declined

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Request reason: "No actual reason for indefinite blocking by Russian admin A.Savin"
Decline reason: "Yes there is. You're going to have to do much better than that if you have any hope to be unblocked. Please read this essay and try again. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)"

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--g. balaxaZe 19:03, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Answer to A.Savin[edit]

User:Magog the Ogre as A.Savin writes actually that is not true, me and several Georgian wikipedians had a conversation that there is a issue about FoP photos of Georgia and Abkhazia, we discussed and that's why I started that Nominations, it was not only me who did it and this was not immediate as Savin thinks. Edit warring as I know is after 3 revering we me and Halavar reverted just two times. So I didn't edit warred (I could do 3rd revert but I didn't do it), I didn't nominated photos for deletion to revenge and etc. --g. balaxaZe 19:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Check Halavar's edits even he was nominating his own photos for deletion where you can see here my revenge ? --g. balaxaZe 19:36, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Not correct. 3RR is an English Wikipedia guideline which states that more than three reversions in a day are an automatic block, but which is not a license to make less than four reversions per day.
Also you went and nominated as FoP images like this whose subject was erected in 1694. I'll assume good faith that you simply failed to do your homework; but given that you were already in an edit war with this user, that is absolutely a revenge nomination.
Finally, I notice that you are clearly taking up this nationalist crap again, getting into edit wars over things like the status of Abkhazia. Even your unblock nomination is a direct ad hominem on the administrator and an insult to his nationality. How many times do we have to tell you? Commons is not the UN, and it cannot right wrongs.
I see no reason to unblock, as you have yet to show any awareness of why you were blocked in the first place, or that you will stop your disruptive behavior. And I can guarantee that any other admin reviewing your unblock request will notice the same thing.
In short, pardon my English, but cut the bullshit and acknowledge your own misbehaviors immediately or you will find yourself banned. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:46, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Why don't you take a 12-hour wikibreak and come back and reformulate your request? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
You know, I am just a student wasting here time and trying to make better this smelly place, You see only my nationalistic edits You (personally you) now are against me, I love my country and yes my interest here was to edit subjects around it, I am minority here and that's why my edits looks like, polit-motivated and nationalistic. When 1 is against 20 yes it easy to say that this 1 is wrong. Unlike others I am not hiding what I think, only reason that me and Halavar were edit-warring was our different views, he thinks that we Georgians lose the war and now Abkhazia is independent, and after this words when I will see his edit in sovereign countries list and revert it, this will make me bad guy, and this will be reason for my blocking but others? You make like I am a devil and everybody around is an angel. Tell me when everybody knows that South Ossetia is a breakaway republic and NPOV needs to show its borders differently, Osetians and Russians (yes nationality means! I know there names and accounts) uploading it with full independent country borders and nobody cares is it right? When I am changing it, this is ethnic agenda and nationalism but when hundreds of other users do what they want that is not? Why Halavar added Abkhazia in sovereign countries list when he could do different list below for countries with limited recognition? I am not a crazy polit motivated nationalist, other users behavior makes me to act like this. Check all my uploads and find how many time I uploaded new my own but not NPOV or polit motivated files, I am wasting time editing others pov contributions.

p.s. I don't need your unblocking, please be kind and let other admin think over it, which is not involved in personal misunderstanding with me. --g. balaxaZe 20:24, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Unblock Request[edit]

Unblock request declined

This blocked user asked to be unblocked, but one or more administrators has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators can also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason.

Request reason: "Please, admins have a more deeper understanding of issue, you saw some edits and in 2 minutes decided indefinite block, that is not right."
Decline reason: "I find this request and certain of the discussion below to be disingenuous. A user with three blocks for edit warring has no business reverting twice ([1][2]) without discussion. While perhaps the two reversions may not be blockable in and of themselves in the absence of a clear 1RR restriction, they are to be taken in conjunction with Giorgi Balakhadze’s past promises to abstain from edit warring and with his other disruptive behavior. For example, Giorgi Balakhadze’s deletion nominations in the recent past have been minimal; between 10. November 2014 and 14. February 2015 he did not open a single DR. It was not until the brief edit war on COM:FOP and an exchange here on 14. February 2015, that he again began opening DRs – in bulk, and focused on the images of the editor (Halavar) with whom he had been warring. That these nominations were not out of revenge (“revenge RfD's is also not true”) is simply not credible. It is clear these were done out of spite, and furthered a a hostile environment. This, together with the user's propensity for disparaging, politically-motivated comments (e.g, [3]) and the refusal below to acknowledge that this behaviour is inappropriate and disruptive regardless of how others may or may not act, suggests the block is appropriate. In short, this is not a user who has demonstrated a colleagial, cooperative attitude or who has acknowledged the issues and genuinely committed to change. Эlcobbola talk 17:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)"

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Your block log says otherwise, all of your blocks have been for edit warring. If you're ever unblocked, you should be topic banned and have a one revert restriction placed on you. Bidgee (talk) 21:38, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
That time when I was edit warring has gone. In case of Halavar if we edit warred it was not only my fault. I am not glad reverting things I prefer and greed that controversial changes must be added only after discussion but not many is interested in it. -g. balaxaZe 06:44, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
I am also very interested how much is it correct blocking user indefinitly for two reverts? If in the past I did some mistakes that mustn't means that I am less good contributor than other and my rights should be limitated. Last issue with FoP was different than the issue of previous year. -g. balaxaZe 06:56, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

And also I would like to answer blocking summary. @A.Savin: Saying that Abkhazia is not full independent sovereign country isn't political editwarring, it is breakaway republic and still conflict region, so your first argument about my political motivation is not right. It is NPOV motivation which must say what in reality Abkhazia is. Second revenge RfD's is also not true, beacause as I said to Magog at that time Halavar also were nominating his own photos for deletion, and except of us it was also two other users who were nominating his photos (one of them admin). Third etc., and past block log isn't reason for permanent blockings. And also blocked me when it was no actual need in this. You blocked at 18:57 but situation was calm after 13:54. Moreover admins check current History of FoP page. Prosfilaes reverted Halavar's edits because they were against Commons policy, and need DISCUSSION. What will be next step blocking of Prosfilaes? As you (Bidgee, Magog the Ogre) can see I was right and this blocking is totally irrelevant. -g. balaxaZe 07:36, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

1) There should be infos on the current FoP situation in Abkhazia, because there are people who upload photos from Abkhazia on Commons and they should be able to know the local laws, as long as they are relevant and Georgia does not have influence on that laws. 2) Theoretically, it could be that your RfD's were just coincidence, but I don't tend to believe it, and I also don't see any need for such RfD's given that Halavar was about to nominate their photos for deletion himself; so, all in all it really looks like revenge RfD's. 3) You were already indef'ed on Commons last year, but then the blocking admin had some AGF and gave you further chance. Now I asked them for review of this block, and they apparently agree. Given that, I don't see any faults in this block at the moment. --A.Savin 08:41, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
    • You believe it or not it is not an argument, I've said we had a talk and after this I started nominations and at the same time Halavar started editing of FoP page, when I saw it, as you know I reverted page to the stable version. People often make mistakes and admins are not exclusion, my first request was declined because maybe someone didn't understand real issue. I am saying that my last edits don't give enough rights at all to block me indefinitely, and as you can read all my comments below or above I am trying to prove and simply represent this.--g. balaxaZe 09:10, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
  • @Geagea: გეა იქნებ მიშველო რამე, ამ ადმინმა სავინმა იმის გამო რომ ადრე ბლოკი მქონდა აძგერა და ასე ჰაერზე ისევ დამადო ბლოკი, ძალიან არასწორად მოიქცა ჩემი აზრით და იქნებ მიშველო. იმ ჰალავართან კამათს მოყვა ეს ყველაფერი.--g. balaxaZe 07:46, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Giorgi, with all the respect, I can't help when you are edit warring and personally attack user A.Savin. A lot of users of both sides of conflicts comes to Commons but still Commons manage to be conducted. If you don't show understanding of that issue, nothing can be done. Commons is not a battlefield or the battlefield. It is only place that all kind of people from all the world trying to do something together.
I can't tell you to apologize, but definitely different kind of speaking needed her. So please be calm and tell me if you want that I ask user A.Savin to agree unblock you. I opened new discussion about FoP in Abkhazia and I'm sure the correct decision will come up. Please pay attention that i did not revert user Halavar even if I think his edit is incorrect. -- Geagea (talk) 09:26, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Okay Geagea, but making me an evil is also not correct, he could warn me instead of indefinite block. And when you are blocking someone personal beliefs is not enough. Yes I wish to be unblocked and next time, due to everytime when there is a controversial issue, other users write directly to Magog, I'll also write directly to him when I see POV edits and make him know about my arguments and edits. I think this will prevent from situations in which I am now. --g. balaxaZe 09:57, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
You blocked because of edit waring and not because of personal beliefs. The first block was a huge warning to you. You must to understand that. You definitely not evil but your edit wars and personal attacks was wrong. -- Geagea (talk) 10:49, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Then let me say, If my revert is edit war, why Halvar's revert is not edit war? I knew that edit-warring is after 3 reverts but as Magog said it is only in English wikipedia (after I will consider this) . In commons everyday there is hundreds of users which revert edits more than twice but they are not blocked indefinitely. I may apology and acknowledge my edit-warring in case if I won't be exception and not only me will be blocked for two reverts in such cases... If there is standard there must be one standard.--g. balaxaZe 11:02, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Halvar's reverts were edit wars as well but you already blocked before because of it. -- Geagea (talk) 11:30, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
  • He was blocked not only because for edit wars, but because of massive revenge RfD's. I don't want to involve on the debate about this user (what he did and what he said to me in the last couple of months), because other Admins may think, that I'm not objective in this case. So I want to tell only that, he is not telling the true about that RfD's. He started the deletion procedure according to no-FoP policy but only to my images, and he did that after I change FoP topic by adding the Abkhazian law. So he did massive RfD's not because no-FoP is a law that we should respect, but he did it as a revenge. For instance here Category:Monument to Genghis Khan (Sükhbaatar Square) he made RfD's only to my two images, not for the others. Then he started that procedure to the my images from Montenegro, but only to my images, not for the other users, because he looks only into my uploads. Halavar (talk) 11:49, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
    • Halavar say all truth, as I said several Georgian users talked about this that there is an issue about FoP of Georgia and FoP of Abkhazia if you remember I wrote also on one file's discussion page (when other user nominated your photo), and went to your uploads and start checking of all your uploads, at the same time while other where talking about FoP of Abkhazia in the file discussion you started changing of FoP page, that's why it looks like I nominated your photos for revenge, but I would anyway nominate them, despite you would add Abkhazia there or not, it happened in several minutes. Also I nominated not only your photos there was several Sokhumi buildings as I remember it was theatre of Sokhumi built in 1947 when I nominated category's all photos. So don't make people in delusion. I also don't want to start what you have said during these months about Abkhazia and Georgia and etc. --g. balaxaZe 13:18, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

For example[edit]

Magog as you can check my last upload I changed de facto border of South Ossetia according of NPOV (i.e. South Ossetia's border with Russia is similar of Georgia's and it is legal but S.O.'s border with Georgian is de facto and must be different than internationally recognized border between Georgia and Russia.). On this motive I changed three maps ► this, this and this (the last's border was very similar of just simple lines and it was hard to find difference). User Leftcry which very active in such issues just reverted them, he is very often engaged in edit-warrings (more than me see en:wp talk page and commons talk page). So now tell me what I must to do, if I revert, and then he also revert I will be edit-warring yes? so what to do, I am waiting for your response. --g. balaxaZe 10:25, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Did you read the essay I recommended above that you read? Read w:WP:NOTTHEM. I am not going to talk to you about the behavior of any other editor until we address yours. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:23, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Since you mentioned me let me explain my edits. There was absolutely no reason to change the border as it was already dashed. You just made it look less appealing by redundantly making the spaces between the dashes bigger. Either way this isn't the right place to discuss the issue about your changes for South Ossetia, that should be done on the talk page of the files or in a different section of your talk page. --Leftcry (talk) 16:41, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

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Leftcry (talk) 00:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)