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This is an archive of threads started in User talk:Lar from about 1 September 2009 through about 1 January 2010. Please do not comment here, use my current talk page for that, thanks. It is part of a series of archives, see the box at left for the list and to navigate to others.
My archived talk        [+/−]
Archive 1 — start through about 1 Nov 2006
Archive 2 — about 1 Nov 2006 through about 1 Mar 2007
Archive 3 — about 1 Mar 2007 through about 1 Aug 2007
Archive 4 — about 1 Aug 2007 through about 1 Jan 2008
Archive 5 — about 1 Jan 2008 through about 1 Sep 2008
Archive 6 — about 1 Sep 2008 through about 1 Nov 2008
Archive 7 — about 1 Nov 2008 through about 1 Jan 2009
Archive 8 — about 1 Jan 2009 through about 1 Mar 2009
Archive 9 — about 1 Mar 2009 through about 1 Jun 2009
Archive 10 — about 1 Jun 2009 through about 1 Sep 2009
Archive 11 — about 1 Sep 2009 through about 1 Jan 2010
Archive 12 — about 1 Jan 2010 through about 1 May 2010
Archive 13 — about 1 May 2010 through about 1 September 2010


Deletion request[edit]

Hi Lar, As discussed, can you please delete the following pages/categories? The pages have no links to them and the categories are empty and defunct. Thanks.

upstateNYer 04:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Sure... did you end up moving images to new categories or just leaving them out of the "by ..." cats ? ++Lar: t/c 12:54, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I ended up replacing the transclusion of User:Wadester16/Template:Credits with User:UpstateNYer/Credits on each of my images (350+), like this, as well as changing the author. The template adds the category Category:Images by UpstateNYer, which supersedes Category:Images by Wadester16. It was actually a good thing to go through them all; a lot of them needed clean up and weren't to the standard of images pages I fill out now; something I had been putting off a while due to the required effort. Good thing I didn't do it before! Thanks for the help. upstateNYer 01:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Btw, I just did this. Are there any other pages that need updating? upstateNYer 01:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Not sure. The list of lists is at Commons:Administrators/Lists of administrators if you want to triple check. I think I got all the lists on that list updated correctly, please check my work if you would be so kind. ++Lar: t/c 01:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
No more links to User:Wadester16 from Project space. upstateNYer 02:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Trying to understand[edit]

Hello Lar, Sorry for my late reaction to your comment. I needed some time to get better and to take yet another look over my contributions. All the time I was trying to understand what did you mean, when you said to me: "That includes you contributing peacefully and productively, in a way that doesn't stress you, or others out." May I please ask you what of my contributions you consider to be unpeaceful, and what of my contributions were stressing other contributors out? I would also like to ask you what did you mean, when you said: "But I hope everyone can set this episode aside and try for a fresh start." Who's everyone? slaunger, maedin, lycaon? Do you believe any one of them is in need for a fresh start? Oh, yes, because I doubt Martin H. would have a time to answer the question I asked on his nomination page, maybe you'll be so kind to tell me if in 2+2=4 situation CU would have been the right thing to do, and if "yes" why yes? I would also like to find out if you personally believe that a person with my block history has a right for a fresh start? (I would only like to point out one more time that I've done what I've done not to hide my block record, but avoid being harassed. It was my only reason). Please do forgive me, if these questions of mine are stressing you out. I'm simply trying to learn from my mistakes. Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:46, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

  • p.s. although Martin responded my question about CU, I would still like to ask you to address it in your response too. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what more I can usefully add. ++Lar: t/c 15:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
If you have nothing more "usefully to add" to respond my very particular and important to me questions, then I believe it might have been a good idea not to comment on the post on AN/N all together. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't agree. ++Lar: t/c 18:11, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Lar, for you Commons is just a website. For me commons is a rather big part of my life. Even if commons is just a website, there are absolutely real people behind that website, people, who could get hurt by unreasoned comments, especially made by somebody like you. I asked you few particular questions: what of my contributions you found to be unpeaceful and what of my contributions were stressing out other contributors, and, if you administrator, bureaucrat and checkuser , you personally, would have granted CU request in that particular situation, and who do you have in mind when you said ... (anyway no need to repeat, all my questions are written above and none of them is answered). The only response I have got was that you have nothing more "usefully to add", which looks to me as you're trying to avoid the answer. Once again, I am deeply sorry, if my questions are stressing you out. Please do believe me, it was not my intention at all. I'm simply trying to understand the comments that were made by a person, who I used to respect. So please let's leave it here. It matters to me no more.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Commons is "just a website", maybe, but it's also an important one to me. I try to keep a sense of perspective, neither "nothing" nor "everything". If you really want an answer to your specific question, I consider it reasonable to carry out checks when I am presented with reasonable evidence for there being multiple accounts controlled by the same person, and that those accounts are acting in ways that might be disruptive, such as multiple votes in one question (RfA, FP candidacy, deletion discussion, what have you) or if there is some other sign of possible disruption. In this particular case, I may well have decided to check, although at the time I wasn't asked. I tend to trust the judgement of my fellow CUs as well, so if one or more of them had said they saw reason to check I'd tend to go along with that, and if one or more of them had said they saw no reason to check, I'd tend to go along with that as well. I hope that helps address the question. I go back to what I said before, I hope you find ways to contribute in ways that you find fulfulling, and that everyone else finds collegial. But when I see comments like this [1] I'm not sure if it's all going to work out. Please try to assume the best of everyone, not the worst. You and I have conversed at length in the past, and I was happy to try to help you where I could. But when you switch from conversing to accusing, then I'm not sure there is much more useful I can say. In our recent email exchange, I tried to explain where things went awry, and I tried to apologise... but it all seemed to end badly. So I'm not sure what else to tell you, except best wishes. ++Lar: t/c 21:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Lar, I am afraid we're talking different languages. I asked you not about CU policy in general. I asked you about my very unique and very specific situation. I did not run multiply accounts ( user:mbz1 was blocked on my own request at the moment), I did not vote two times anywhere, I did not do any disruption.
My comments you refer to were made on my own talk page only, and BTW after you made your comment on AN/N. I did not go to involved user talk pages or to AN/N as they did. I wrote them on my own talk page to express how I've felt. If you believe the comments to be offensive or uncivil or whatever, why didn't you remove them? Why didn't you warn me about them on my own talk page? Why didn't you block at least my other 2+2=4 account, which of course I use no more? Don't you understand that it was me, who was and still is stressed out by the comments made on my FP nomination, on my talk page, and on AN/N by other users and you, Lar? I did not start to use another accounts because I suddenly decided I want to have a fresh start and get rid of my blocks record. I started to use another account because I (and not only I) felt I was being harassed on my old one as Mbz1. To me using that other account was kind of a Witness protection program, except I was not a witness, but a user, who was being harassed on Commons by two other users.I consider my questions to you unanswered, but as I said few times already I am more that willing to let it go now, because your unwillingness or inability to respond them is already a good enough response IMO.Sorry I took your time. Best wishes to you too.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Lar, I'm sorry for overreacting in some of my above comments. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 10:54, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Note[edit]

As per your request, please note that I left a comment here -- User:Docu at 04:29, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Info[edit]

Hello Lar, I've noticed this request which it seems to me a clearcut case of WP:SNOW. Regards, df|  19:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

More like disruptive behaviour based on cross-wiki contribs. I've deleted the page as vandalism. Kanonkas // talk // e-mail // 21:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposal to change votes[edit]

Hei Larry,

I made a proposal to change the 4 votes into 10 votes and made a other proposal to try and get more people to vote in a rfa, could you please take a look on it so we could change it before proposing it in the village pump. I placed the proposal here

Best regards, Huib talk 19:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Replied. Thx for letting me know. Nice work. ++Lar: t/c 19:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

OV[edit]

Hi Lar,

Would you look into this request (Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#File_history_revision). Conclusion of the discussion seems to be that COM:OV is needed. -- User:Docu at 17:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Rename[edit]

I see you're a bureaucrat, I'd like to ask you if you can change my nickname?.--TownDown How's it going? 00:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Please make a request at COM:CHU... make sure you read the instructions carefully, thanks! ++Lar: t/c 00:50, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering. Thank You!. --TownDown How's it going? 01:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh yes! I know how to do it, COM:CHU, but I wanted to make a conversation.--TownDown How's it going? 01:58, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh. Sorry! Sure... What did you want to talk about? ++Lar: t/c 03:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Admin welcome[edit]

Thanks, Lar. In the meantime I translated to Spanish language Commons:Administrator and Commons:Guide to adminship, so I read this information, which is very helpful. Best regards, Alpertron (talk) 01:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks a lot, that's very thoughtful of you. :) ++Lar: t/c 03:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Wikimedia logo mosaic[edit]

Re:Wikimedia logo mosaic

Thanks, that was fun to do and watch it change :-). I remember my computer was really slow then and it died on every 2 or 3 edits. Now the Mosaic is a really good browser benchmark for rendering tables and images ;-). --Nux (talk··dyskusja) 11:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Towndown[edit]

maybe you weren'0t aware, but he's a known sockpuppeteer Heraldicos • Wikisole • Prodigynet • Prodigynet • Thecircle • Hambrientino • Americko • Elzodiacogriego • Vexilio

and he carries already blocks on all those wikis. -- Drini 15:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

No, I wasn't aware of the TownDown connection, actually, because I didn't check en:wp's case, AGF I guess. Thanks for letting me know... I better run some more checks and update the Commons and en:wp cases to crosslink. ++Lar: t/c 16:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


More linked accounts:

  • Allpex
  • Heraldry
  • TownDown
  • Thecircle
  • Pueblounited

-- Drini 20:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I've updated the enwp and commons pages with crosslinks. Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 07:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

Could you please fix a spelling error on en:wiki's current POTD? Image is here. Under "Other versions", the first image in the gallery is labeled as "unresored". Thanks. upstateNYer 02:19, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. –Juliancolton | Talk 02:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

File upload problem[edit]

Error I'm getting when trying to upload over an existing file
svg locator map

Lar: I'm currently getting an error that will not let me upload over an existing file, at any time. User:ZooFari has been having the problem for a few days now, but it only just happened to me tonight. Error page is shown at left. Is there a fix in the pipeline? As a secondary issue, because of this problem, an update I planned to upload had to be uploaded under a new name, making this image useless. Could you delete it, please? upstateNYer 02:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I think I saw something on the VP about this problem, but I'm not the most up on what might be causing it. If there isn't a thread already on VP, you might consider starting one? You're both editors with enough time/edits to be autoconfirmed and SHOULD be able to upload on top of things I thought. If it happens again, you can tag the obsoleted file with {{badname}} I think, that way any admin working the queues can deal with it. I'll delete the obsoleted image for you though, as soon as I check usages (goes off, yep all set). Deleted. BTW how does ZooFari make those? I use Inkscape and I find drawing maps to be a lot of work. ++Lar: t/c 06:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I gave him a file to base it on. The rest is his skill, which I extensive, but not anything I can yet comprehend. Thanks for the deletion. upstateNYer 16:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah. Stuff like this (shown at right) is about my best in that area, and it's done by importing TIGER images and then fixing up the result to correct multiple paths and the like. takes way longer than it should ++Lar: t/c 17:05, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't use Inkscape because it has to run through another program on Mac. Plus, I find it non-intuitive and know enough skilled users that are happy to help. These people are rare commodities here, but they do great work. upstateNYer 21:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Inkscape is way counterintuitive. I find that I really have to want to use it to do so, and it's best used in large doses, get in a groove and crank stuff out while I remember the commands. But if you've found a mapmaker, keep him or her well plyed with their favorite vices to stay in their good graces. ++Lar: t/c 02:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Move request[edit]

Lar-- not sure where to post this. Can you move a page for me? I would like

File:HMS Calliope Under Sail 1884.jpg

retitled to

File:Calypso class corvette under sail.jpg.

thanks

Kablammo (talk) 17:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

{{rename|Calypso class corvette under sail.jpg|Your reason here}}
Put that edited template to File:HMS Calliope Under Sail 1884.jpg. From there a bot will take care of your request. A trusted user or an admin, has to make the last edit, otherwise the bot will refuse to rename the file. How long it takes depends on the bot. It's not something specific, FYI. I hope this helped. Best regards, Kanonkas // talk // e-mail // 17:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Kablammo (talk) 18:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
File renaming for admins seems to have been enabled again (great!). As such I took care of your request. Best regards, Kanonkas // talk // e-mail // 20:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks guys! It's great to have talk page watchers :) ++Lar: t/c 20:02, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

{{Current checkuser request}}[edit]

Hey, you said that the template should better use autotranslation, but I don't think that it's appropriate in this case. Autotranslate is mostly when you can't know which language someone's speaking the most. Likewise, you can't know who reads an image description page and their licenses, so you make it autotranslatable. But if we would just post the specific language message to the appropriate village pump then I think it's better to write it in the appropriate language. For example take a look at the German Forum: There are a lot of people from de.wikipedia who visit the Forum but might not use the German language setting. Also, many people who are more active on de.wikipedia have the Forum in their watchlist; if they then see a diff-link like {{Autotranslate|1=Some random guy|base=Current checkuser request}}, then they might just skip this as they have no idea what this is. If they see the text, then they maybe read it. Thus, I'd recommand to not use autotranslate here, but to transclude the templates directly. Creating /lang links might be an option, though I don't think that this is necessary. What do you think of this? I'd be happy if you and your fellow bureaucrats would approve the template, but if there's anything left to do, please let me know. Thank you. --The Evil IP address (talk) 19:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I think there should be a way to see the other language versions from the template, but perhaps not actually autotranslate. If you look at how some of our multilanguage templates looked, say 18 months ago, they didn't yet use autotranslate, but they DID have a bar that showed all the language versions you could see the template in.. and you manually clicked on each one to see the desired version. Can we do that? ++Lar: t/c 21:11, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, possible and ✓ Done. --The Evil IP address (talk) 10:04, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Excellent. Thank you! I've added de: as well. Hopefully some kind native de: speaker can improve it a bit, my translation is not the greatest. ++Lar: t/c 14:14, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Request for confirmed user status[edit]

Hi Lar. I would like to request to be granted confirmed user status for oneself Billinghurst (talk · contribs). I promise not to abuse the privilege. It will help me to do some moves to better align Wikisource-linked files, and some of the cleanup work that I do at WP. Thanks for your consideration. -- billinghurst (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey Billinghurst. I don't think you need the right. You're autoconfirmed anyway, so this right would be redundant. Best regards, Kanonkas // talk // e-mail // 01:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes, I was confusing my movefile, with move. I see that it is a sysop privilege. I will work out whether I really wish to pursue that or not. I was just looking for the easy way to undertake this tight section tidy.-- billinghurst (talk) 03:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy to grant it but not seeing the need, as K says. ++Lar: t/c 04:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Oversight[edit]

Your thoughts and comments are welcome here: [2]. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 01:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Your Signature[edit]

To make it easier for people to reach your talk page, would you be so kind and add a link with the title "talk" to your signature. Limiting the link to a small "t" letter isn't really convenient. Alternatively you could just use the default signature, this would really make it easier. I'm asking this of you not because you are a user or an administrator, but a bureaucrat. Thanks. -- User:Docu at 18:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing your concern to my attention. I'll take it under advisement, although I don't see it as all that confusing.Feel free to change yours first, as it's a lot farther away from the default than mine is. Are you sure you aren't just making this request as a way to make a point ? ++Lar: t/c 18:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Info: pages[edit]

I've done a quick bash at a simplified one - check the VP.. Any thoughts welcome of course!--Nilfanion (talk) 20:01, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

A reminder to me, that I need to actually go off and do this fixup. ++Lar: t/c 15:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Ruine Berghof.JPG[edit]

Dear Lar! Me at placing Ruine Berghof.JPG, a mistake (in the first version of the file) posted picture mate, he would not like to have in the wiki. All other information and the latest version of the file is correct. Is it possible to remove the photo of my friend with the specified file? --Kolchak1923 (talk) 20:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

That appears to be a red link. Did you mean File:Ruine Berghof.JPG ? Do you want the entire file deleted? We can't edit images to remove just one person easily. Do you want one version deleted? If this is an oversight issue and you'd prefer not to answer publicly to limit the details revealed, you can write commons-oversight@lists.wikimedia.org with more detail. ++Lar: t/c 20:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much, but Rama is all well done.--Kolchak1923 (talk) 20:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Great to hear it. Best. ++Lar: t/c 20:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

discussion about you[edit]

FYI. See discussion about you at User_talk:Docu#Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator. --Jarekt (talk) 14:49, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Very odd. I've asked for a fuller explanation of what this is about there. ++Lar: t/c 15:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Import request[edit]

Hello, as a steward, are you able to import this page from file upload and move it to User:The Evil IP address/graphic credits then? It has been argued here that making images unclickable might break licenses, which is why I'd like to create such a page like fr.wikipedia so that this fits them. Of course, I'd put the page up in the VP before linking it in the footer like on fr.wikipedia to see if the community supports this as well. Thank you. --The Evil IP address (talk) 12:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Why does it need to be imported? Can't you just copy the source and in your initial edit summary note that it came from fr:Wikipédia:Crédits graphiques? I'm not opposed to this idea or bringing the file over, I'm just not sure I seee the need for an import. Would you translate it to en? Or set up multiple language versions? ++Lar: t/c 13:27, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, since a lot of such pages have been imported, I would say we should do it here as well. The only reason that I can't do it is that fr.wikipedia isn't in Special:Import. I would probably make only one page, but translating the captions where the license information is using {{LangSwitch}}, since I think that's easier than having to create an own page for localization. --The Evil IP address (talk) 16:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Those pages all came from wikis that aren't on the exclusion list, though, right? Let me ask Cary's opinion... I think really, the way to go is to just copy it and put the link/souce in the edit summary (and on the talk) ++Lar: t/c 02:00, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I've now mentioned the French wikipedia page in the introduction. This might make it more clear, as people might miss my edit summary. I've also used {{mld}} instead of {{LangSwitch}}. This template is able to find out the user's browser language, which might be better here as reusers of these images might often be unregistered and then their fallback would always be English. If you're interested, you can see a draft here. --The Evil IP address (talk) 10:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
An absolutely splendid piece of work, well done indeed. I spotted a minor grammar nit, which I fixed. I strongly support moving this forward into general use. What next? ++Lar: t/c 16:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

ping[edit]

@Lar, has there been any conclusion/decision in the "case" uploads of User:Herr stahlhoefer in regard to notifying re-users of his copyviolating images? In fact, it seems there was only one clear case of re-use[3]. Just by chance, it was the first file in his cv-list. --Túrelio (talk) 13:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I think I lost track of where things stand (and where they are being discussed). Notification of other entities seems a very big job, so perhaps no one has taken it on? ++Lar: t/c 14:20, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm refering to the email I sent you quite some days ago. From my side there was intentionally no public discussion about that, in order not to wake sleeping dogs. --Túrelio (talk) 14:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for the nudge. Answered via email. ++Lar: t/c 16:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

100 Years' War[edit]

There's a w:100 Years' War which is a problem for many users. Many users are annoyed/frustrated/at wits' end due to a very large number of long arguments centering around a small number of users, over similar issues again and again on page after page, that are very disrupting. They are nominally mostly about copyright; see how Nilfanion describes it. Please see my comment here (tagged 13:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)) followed by an understating long reply from Nilfanion and the follow-up there and on the page Nilfanion created. Someone in authority needs to take the time to get a grasp on the situation (and I don't think that'll be easy) and take some decisive action. Are you up for it? I've got a hunch the problem is bigger than a single user, but I'm not sure. Should I ask Bastique, or do you think there's a regular admin up for the task? Please, please help! Pretty please?--Elvey (talk) 04:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Nilfanion seems to have made a good start at trying to organise what the dispute is about. There isn't a formal dispute resolution process here at Commons beyond the various noticeboards. I think getting Bastique's view on this will help, as I don't see resolving this as something any one admin can do. It will take multiple admins working together I suspect. I hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 15:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. Notified Bastique. I recall Nilfanion said somewhere (I can't find it) that he wanted someone else to assist with enforcement; which is mainly why I come to you and Bastique. --Elvey (talk) 18:19, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
If this is an enforcement matter I can certainly help. but I may not have the time or depth of knowledge of background to help (a great deal) in determining what the right outcome is. And that is key before we have any enforcement of anything! Goes without saying that you know that, but I said it anyway, for the benefit of any talk page watchers I may have. I think Nilf's approach is good as I said there. Best. ++Lar: t/c 20:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Estrilda[edit]

Hello, in November we delayed a final discussion and resolution until December on this matter. You commented in the discussion; welcoming you to return. Let's figure out the best solution. Respectfully, Durova (talk) 04:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Correct protected page[edit]

Hello Lar, there is need to correct a bit the text in protected template Template:PD-old-70 per (already archived) discussion Commons_talk:Licensing/Archive_23#Public domain templates. Thanks. --Snek01 (talk) 14:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Can you let me know what specifically needs doing? Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 22:31, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Delete text "the United States, and" from the template. --Snek01 (talk) 22:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, I did the en one. However I'm not sure it was protected! Someone else will need to do other languages. ++Lar: t/c 02:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Seasonal greetings[edit]

Must have been a cold night.jpg

Fresh off the camera - with thanks for your support in 2009 and regards --Herby talk thyme 13:56, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

"Something found" or "something created" ?? :) ... Happy holidays to you and yours as well! (from snowy Delaware which got 20 inches or so over the weekend, but I'm heading home soon.) ++Lar: t/c 15:35, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Dferg is wishing you Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Should the new year bring you lots of good things and healht. Best regars, — Dferg (disputatio) 14:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help and advice everytime I needed it. — Dferg (disputatio) 14:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts on behalf of the projects, which are many! ++Lar: t/c 15:36, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Volume of Latuff images[edit]

Your comments are requested at Commons:Village pump#Latuff repository. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 07:25, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Gee thanks. I suspect you may not like my viewpoint though. ++Lar: t/c 14:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)