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Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Liftarn!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

Uploadwizard-categories.png

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations"). Pro-tip: The CommonSense tool can help you find the best category for your image.

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 06:03, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


File:Pachuco.jpg[edit]

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Captain-tucker (talk) 01:27, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


Copyright status: Image:57 Fireflite.JPG[edit]

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File:5th DAN 2.jpg[edit]

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File:Robert_F_Engle_Composite.jpg[edit]

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File:Gamewatch mariobros closed.JPG[edit]

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File:Gamewatch mariobros open.JPG[edit]

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File:Game and Watch Donkey Kong.jpg[edit]

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File:Game and Watch BALL.jpg[edit]

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--Jappalang (talk) 03:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Wrong category[edit]

This image does NOT show a "Plattenbau". A "Plattenbau" describes the way appartment buildings were built in EAST GERMANY (1949 to 1991). If you have not taken this image in the former EAST GERMANY, the category is absolutely wrong. If you do not know anything exactly of that issue, please do not play the expert!


File tagging File:Bestia.jpg[edit]

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File source is not properly indicated: File:AlagoasFlag.jpg[edit]

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Medborgarplatsen[edit]

In the Esseltub article in the English Wikipedia, the talk page claims that the typeface show in the image you created, is not Esseltub. Can you confirm this, and could you provide a new photo of the sign at this stop?

Sign in the metro station at Medborgarplatsen.

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File:Toyoda ja.jpg and File:Toyota ja.jpg[edit]

There are new versions of Toyoda ja.jpg and Toyota ja.jpg on the German Wikipedia ([1] and [2]). Can you upload the new files?--79.210.242.254 13:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Done using http://toolserver.org/~magnus/commonshelper.php // Liftarn (talk) 13:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thank you--79.210.197.141 14:02, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

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File tagging File:53 daenarys.jpg[edit]

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FP Nomination[edit]

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File tagging File:Toots_hibbert.JPG[edit]

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Just a note on File:Bayeux raven banner 1.png[edit]

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Volume of Latuff images[edit]

Your comments are requested at Commons:Village pump#Latuff repository. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 07:25, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Categories[edit]

Yes, but there are a few differences. If you look at my edits, I added neither of those categories to the cartoons; rather, I added more specific categories that do not apply to all Latuff cartoons, therefore the additions should stand. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 15:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Certainly they are. Not all of Latuff's cartoons are Anti-Zionist, and not even all of them are propoganda, although they are political. They certainly add to the visitor to commons' understanding of Latuff and the differences between his vvarious cartoons. I am somewhat concerned about the incorrect summary you gave to mass-reverting my clarifications, but I understand that you likely misread the categories I added. As for subcats, since they do not apply to every Latuff, or even every Latuff I-P cartoon, they are inappropriate. Actual categorization of each image correctly is what matters, which I am certain you would agree with, for the betterment of the commons. -- Avi (talk) 15:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I wholeheartedly concur that irrelevant categories should not be added. However, to say that Anti-Zionism and Political propoganda are not appropriate to various Latuff caricatures is about as credible as saying that they are not related to I-P or carciturization either. I kindly ask you to realize that categorization on the commons is to inform, educate and clarify for the reader, not for political motive. You are free to take the issue up on the villiage pump as I did regarding the volume of Latuff's work. -- Avi (talk) 15:14, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Please stop both changing the categories on many of these images and instead engage in discussions about this issue. Adambro (talk) 15:19, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Their intent is to influence the reader and to create a link between Israelis, Jews, and Nazis, which is propaganda according to any deifnition. Secondly, I explained why a subcategory is inappropriate, unless you mean "Anti-Zionistic propaganda of Carlos Latuff", which is, in my opinion, ridiculous if we already have the two existing categories. Adding the two catgeoris to the specific Anti-Zionistic propagandist cartoons of Latuff, and not the others (such as the Forgiveness ones) is the cleanest, most efficient, most commons-appropriate way to properly categorize these images, which already exists in the Commons catergozation lexicon. If you have a better solution, I suggest you bring it up at the pump or somewhere centralzied so a discussion may be had; but creating new redundant categories to fit one particular artist strikes me as being somewhat bizarre. -- Avi (talk) 15:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Liftarn, if I may ask, what do you see as the difference between:
  1. Category:Propaganda cartoons and Category:Political propaganda and
  2. Category:Anti-Zionistic cartoons and Category:Anti-Zionism?
in each case, the former is what you suggest and the latter already exists on the commons. As long as each image is also tagged "Cartoon/Caricature" then that is exactly what we already have, and has the benefit of allowing for better cross-reference searching through categories? -- Avi (talk) 15:34, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
The former (cartoons) would be a subcategory of the latter. That way it would make it easier to find. But I still think it is needless as it is listed (some cats up) in both Category:Editorial cartoons and Category:Political cartoons. It would be easier to add the entire Category:Editorial cartoons as a subcat to Category:Propaganda. // Liftarn (talk) 15:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
The main issue with that is not every political cartoon is propaganda. Even in Latuff, I do not think that the "Forgiveness" cartoons are propaganda, although they are certainly political. Also, sub-categorization is good if there are many "parents". If a category tree is basically filled with only one sub-category node at each level, that defeats the purpose of the categorization and obfuscates the relationships. -- Avi (talk) 15:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't suggest the category should be added to every image, but only the relevant ones. // Liftarn (talk) 16:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Which is exactly what I did with categories almost identical to what you suggest, which have the two benefits of 1) already existing on the commons and 2) not being single-entry special-purpose categories, so I am now unsure what the basis for our disagreement is? -- Avi (talk) 16:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I still disagree with that categorisation since the images clearly isn't propaganda, not is about antizionims, but if you insist on it please do it in a good way. By your reasoning we should have no subcategories at all in Commons, but just a single Category:Everything. // Liftarn (talk) 16:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
As I said above, when multiple parent categories can combine, then sub-categorization is appropriate to minimize the tree, but when the proposed category has only one node per level, then either no, or at most one, category is saved, and the parsimony is outweight by the obfuscation in my opinion. -- Avi (talk) 16:46, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Adding relevant subcategories to avoid crowding the main cat is perfectly valid to do. // Liftarn (talk) 16:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, I think you have a point regarding Category:Political propaganda; even though there are only 40 images in the parent level, as currently there are a number of subcategories having a cartoon-specific subcat may be appropriate,. Regarding Category:Anti-Zionism, however, there is only one subcat, and the parent cat is not overwhelmed with images (less than 200, less than 50 for that matter) so it may be wiser to leave that one for now until it gets over-full. -- Avi (talk) 16:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. May I also kindly ask you to only use relevant categories based on what the image shows, not how you feel about it. // Liftarn (talk) 18:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Propaganda is a word imported into English from Italian. In Italian the word is used to describe all advertising, and therefore "political propaganda" simply mean anything media material that promotes a political point of view. Latuff's cartoons clearly fall into that category. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
That may be true, but it is not propaganda in the modern sense of the word. // Liftarn (talk) 18:56, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
The commons definition of Propaganda is "Propaganda is a specific type of message presentation aimed at serving an agenda. Even if the message conveys true information, it may be partisan and fail to paint a complete and balanced picture. The primary use of the term is in political contexts, and generally refers to efforts sponsored by governments and political parties." That applies completely and totally to Latuff (serving agenda, partisan, fails to paint a valid picture) AND the commons realizes that not all propaganda needs to be govt sponsored. Per the commons definition itself, many, if not most, of the Latuff images, and the ones in specific which I have tagged, are propaganda. However, I think that creation of Category:Propaganda cartoons as a subset of Political propaganda may be the way to go; I'd like to think a bit more. I may open a discussion on Category talk:Political propaganda. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 19:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
If you use the broad definition that any cartoon with a political subject is propaganda then they are! If you use the definition of a propaganda cartoon as "a cartoon I don't like" then it's a different issue. // Liftarn (talk) 20:47, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
And if you do as I do, which is take the Commons definition of propaganda, then any time a cartoon is made to highlight or bias one side of situation, be it political or be it free-use-related, to serve an agenda (which usually is to influence the viewer) then it becomes more clear which cartoons are propaganda (the Nazi ones) and which ones are not (the forgiveness ones - which do not bias any side). -- Avi (talk) 20:50, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Category:Propaganda cartoons[edit]

As per your original suggestion, I have created Category:Propaganda cartoons. This way we do not unfairly tag all editorial cartoons and all political cartoons as propaganda. Rather, we can now specify which cartoons are propaganda and which are not. Thank you very much for the suggestion! -- Avi (talk) 19:47, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually that is exactly what you are doing. You are unfairly tagging images you don't like as propaganda. // Liftarn (talk) 21:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
No, I am tagging images that are in accordance with the commons's definition. My personal preferences have nothing to do with it, as can be seen by looking at the media in the category already, Liftarn. -- Avi (talk) 21:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
It is not difficult to tell a specific bias. // Liftarn (talk) 21:27, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I am unaware of any Israeli cartoons on the commons, kindly point me in their direction--I've been working on American politics recently as you can see by my contributions. -- Avi (talk) 21:34, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I quickly found and added a few, but it interesting that you have admitted your bias. // Liftarn (talk) 21:38, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Not bias, but ignorance, which I freely admit to (and is more easily remedied). The Barry Hunau category is a good example; thanks! -- Avi (talk) 21:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Accusing me of promoting terrorism[edit]

Your remark suggesting that I try to promote terrorism has not escaped my eyes. If you won't apologize, I'll ask to block you for that. Drork (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I have not said you promote terrorism. // Liftarn (talk) 14:01, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Don't try to play innocent. I does not become you. Drork (talk) 14:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Please see the discussion over at Commons:Village_pump#Terrorists or freedom fighters. // Liftarn (talk) 14:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
You may comment here Drork (talk) 14:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Categorisation of Latuff related images[edit]

This is a request to those who, looking at page histories, seem most active in changing the categories of Latuff related images. As per my comments here, I must encourage you all to participate in discussions to arrive at a consensus as to appropriate categorisation instead of changing the categories without consensus.

The constant changing of the categorisation of File:Latuff nazi camp 2.png has necessitated its protection from editing. This is an invitation to properly discuss this on the talk page, not to find another Latuff related image and continue to edit war regarding that image's categories.

If the constant changing of categories continues then I will be compelled to take further action to reduce the disruptive nature of this by considering the protection of further pages or blocking of users involved, all of whom are experienced enough to understand why edit warring isn't constructive.

Please try, however difficult it may be, to engage in proper discussions with other members of the Commons community to find an acceptable categorisation to all. Adambro (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Please consider this a final warning about changing controversial categorisation without discussion as you did again here. Adambro (talk) 21:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. I hope you also extends the same offer to the one who added those controversial categories as well. // Liftarn (talk) 21:55, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the admin board thread[edit]

Hi Liftarn, I've archived the user conduct discussion since it appeared to have served its useful purpose. During the discussion I mentioned a few historic images that could become featured pictures and I restored a portrait of Golda Meir as a gesture of good faith. Not sure how to phrase this without risking inadvertent offense since it might not be quite in line with your tastes, but there are also images that relate to Palestinian heritage and culture that are worth similar attention. Haven't been able to find a public domain portrait of Yasir Arafat, unfortunately. Yet there's a good selection of photographs of daily life from the early twentieth century such as this hand colored photograph from 1919.[3] If you know the names of prominent political figures from that era I may be able to locate portraits. Respectfully, Durova (talk) 05:35, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Not really sure what you're aming for, but I think Category:Folke Bernadotte could be beefed up a bit. Now it the historical photos are generally of quite low resolution. // Liftarn (talk) 12:36, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Drork[edit]

Liftarn, please don't allow yourself to be drawn into pointless conflicts with Drork and try to focus on the issues that need to be discussed. This is a example of a comment which may or may not be valid but only prolong the time it will take to reach a resolution of the issues being discussed.

Also, I have asked that both of you stick to discussing categorisation issues rather than simply enforcing your own opinion. The edit history of Category:Lehi (group) suggests this behaviour has resumed. My request, whilst primarily in reference to the Latuff images, shouldn't be seen as a green light for similar behaviour regarding other related issues. Therefore, I must warn you both that if this continues blocks may have to be considered. Adambro (talk) 15:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

While I believe there will never be a resolution since some users are not willing to reach any compromise or even listen to any argument I intend to do my best to remain civil in the face of provocation as well as to do my best to avoid getting drawn into edit wars. // Liftarn (talk) 17:00, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Your response though illustrates part of the problem. Please avoid describing other users in terms such as "political extremists". Adambro (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Please advice on a more palatable way to describe that type of users. // Liftarn (talk) 17:36, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

mbz compares you to a monkey

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dschwen#:-.29_One_of_a_kind_barnstar_for_you.21_:-.29

Not surprised. // Liftarn (talk) 17:36, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Editing around Category:Terrorism[edit]

Hi Liftarn, you have once argued for the deletion of this category, now you are repeatedly attempting to add controversial cases like Category:United States Army and Category:Central Intelligence Agency to this category ([4], [5], [6], and [7]). To me this looks as you are attempting to illustrate a point which is highly disruptive. Please do not continue this. You are welcome, however, to discuss at at the appropriate talk page about criteria for inclusion. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 08:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Since the vote ended in a keep so now I'm using it. As for criteria for inclusion I have already started discussing that and I'm working according to the draft. // Liftarn (talk) 10:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I did click the source, Iran is hardly a neutral impartial source, MSNBC merely reported what Iran said, MSNBC didn't make the claim just relayed it. RlevseTalk 23:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
And? Is Iran any less reliable than the US? // Liftarn (talk) 03:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Do you seriously need that question answered? ++Lar: t/c 05:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
IMO to answer the question liftarn asked first we have to establish what is Iran. To me Iran is thousands upon thousands Iranians, who are protesting regime, and getting arrested and murdered for doing so. Apparently to you Iran is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. And just for the record, if I may ask, are Al-Qaeda and Usama reliable sources too in your opinion?--Mbz1 (talk) 05:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I would not call Al-Qaeda and Usama reliable sources in this context since they does not represent the leadership of a given country. // Liftarn (talk) 11:48, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying your position. I believe I understand what you mean now: If Al-Qaeda and Usama represented the leadership, of let's say Afghanistan, only then you would have considered them to be a reliable source.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Exactly. As it is they are just a random organisation and their opinions can not really be judged. // Liftarn (talk) 18:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for answering my questions! It really helps me to get to know you better. If I may, I'd like to ask one more question please. Let's say Al-Qaeda with Usama and Taliban were in power in Afghanistan. You would have considered them a reliable source in my understanding. Then 9/11 happens, and let's say Al-Qaeda with Usama and Taliban still kept their leadership in Afghanistan after that. Would they still be a reliable source in your opinion in the situation I described above.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, their opinions in diplomatic matters is determined by their position as heads of state, not by their actions. // Liftarn (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your time, it is really very nice of you to respond all my questions. I have only the last one to ask, please. Let's say that you're considering adding let's say category:terrorism to let's say Category:United States Army. The leadership of Iran claims that United States Army is a terrorist organization. Of course the leadership of US has just an opposite opinion. According to your own definition of reliability both sources are reliable. My question is how would you chose between the two to decide for or against adding category:terrorism to Category:United States Army. Please do forgive me all the questions I am asking. I'm simply trying to learn how to add the right categories to the images.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
This will duplicate what has already been written at Category talk:Terrorism#Inclusion criteria. My suggestion would be that you can't add negative definitions and you write who made the claim, i.e. write in the category description that "AAA is considered to be a terrorist organisation by BBB." There is also a suggestion to use categories based on who makes the claim, such as Category:Considered terrorist by NNN. I think there also should be a way to deal with organisations/persons formerly considered terrorists like ANC and PLO. // Liftarn (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


File tagging File:Glieseupdated.jpg[edit]

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File:Ewaste-crtkid.jpg[edit]

Hi there, we have used two of your e-watse recycling pics in this article: http://www.blatantworld.com/documentary/e_waste_in_india.html cheers for providing it under license

File:BarryHunauInspections.jpg[edit]

Have you sought clarification that the OTRS ticket permits this particular image? The ticket only seems to give permission for images from cartoonsbybarry.com, not all cartoons by Barry Hunau. Is this image available on that website? Adambro (talk) 20:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

cartoonsbybarry.com is just a wrapper. The actual content is actually at http://web.mac.com/thehunaus/cartoons_by_barry so it depends on your viwepoint. I would say it is. // Liftarn (talk) 20:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

File:Latuff nazi camp 2.gif[edit]

I note that in this edit you removed Category:Anti-Zionism and Category:Propaganda cartoons, and added Category:Israeli West Bank barrier in art. Your edit summary though was simply "Category:Israeli West Bank barrier in art". This is a reminder that since the categorisation of Latuff images is controversial, you are advised to discuss anything but trivial changes and I'd also emphasise the importance of clear edit summaries. Adambro (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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You seem to have returned to changing the categorisation of Latuff related images without discussion. Whilst I appreciate that some of the edits simply revert an equally questionable removal of a category and some have been previously discussed, that should indicate the categorisation remains controversial and you should take it to the talk page yourself to try to resolve the issue. Adambro (talk) 21:51, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

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File:900onfire.jpg[edit]

@Liftarn, could you provide a little bit more background information about that car. DId the fire result from a malfunction or from an attack? What is the location (city)? --Túrelio (talk) 21:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


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Automotive diagrams[edit]

Hey, it'd be nice if you'd categorize things you tag with {{SVG}} into the best-matching subcategory instead of the all-encompassing parent category “Images that should use vector graphics”. Said category is pretty crowded by now and it's best if it'd be less crowded some day. For the pictures indicated in the heading here, tagging them as {{SVG|diagram}} would be fitting. The documentation on {{SVG}} contains some information about the allowed arguments and what type of content is appropriate for them. —Johannes Rössel (talk) 17:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


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Saved your image Liftarn: Here, you can eye up what I have added in order to keep this photograph. --High Contrast (talk) 15:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

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File:Pacifists against occupation.gif[edit]

Yes antizionism. This caricature show Israel soldier as bastard. --Pomeranian (talk) 16:58, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

That was a very novel interpretation of what antizionism is. I thought it was the opposition to the existance of Israel. // Liftarn (talk) 17:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


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