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Image:Ferrari F355 Coupé.jpg and other

Thank you for uploading images on Commons.

Please take a look to existing categories schema and place images there. For example Category:Ferrari F355, Category:Porsche vehicles and etc.

If you want to put image in several categories, please follow syntax like:

[[Category:Pens]] [[Category:Porsche]]

EugeneZelenko July 2, 2005 02:25 (UTC)

Hallo MB-one, besten Dank fürs detaillierte Kategorisieren meiner Bilder. Ich konnte das W108 Cabrio nicht richtig einordnen, da ich die älteren Modelle nicht im Detail kenne. Bei Gelegenheit lade ich noch mehr nach Commons. Gruss, Noebu 17:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Deleted image Zidane-Materazzi.jpg

Hi, I've deleted this image because it's a copyright violation, the user that put it on Flickr had no right to tag it as cc-by-sa because it's obviously a professional pressfoto. The user on flickr has uploaded more of this sort of images, please verify that they are not copyvio's first before uploading them to Commons. Thanks in advance. NielsF 17:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sorry. But I trusted the CC-BY Tag on the flickr.com page. --MB-one 19:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

FlickLickr copyvio situation

Hello, I noticed that you tagged (and the image was subsequently deleted) the Lickr image Image:Small handgun.jpg as a copyvio due to the fact that the Flickr author had changed his or her licence. Just to avoid any further images being deleted the template {{flickr-change-of-license}} should be used instead of the image getting deleted. Any image uploaded by the FlickrLickr account/script was definitely uploaded under an acceptable licence, and shouldn't be deleted as a copyvio due to a change of licence (see Image:White tigers drinking.jpg as an example) - instead just tag with the above template and if the photographer definitely wants the image deleted then they can contact Eloquence and state their case. Once something is published under a CC licence it can't be taken back - even if they change the licence at some later date. It is not the best situation in the world, but it is the best that can be done until/if Flickr decide to show each photos licence history. SFC9394 11:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Mobile phone for TV.jpg

Hi. Could you please write where you got the image of the colored children and what license it is under? Thanx

Fred Chess 07:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Sure, thought I did it already, but ok I'll do. --MB-one 14:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Category

Hi. The image was taken on airport Zagreb last year before football match[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image%3AApron.jpg&diff=4896427&oldid=4741041 ]. Maybe Category "Airports in Croatia" is better. And there is no Boeing 737 on image. Thank you for other correction :-))) Sory, --Dtom 09:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, you are right! No B737, there are two B767, my fault. I thought, only british carriers, must be in the United Kingdom. --MB-one 12:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Krispy Kreme 01.jpg

Image:Krispy Kreme 01.jpg,It has already categorized. Please do not return.--Kici 02:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Categorization of Matchbox/Corgi/Dinky photos

Hi. I am relatively new to Wikipedia and very new to the Commons. I am in the process of shooting/uploading photos of various toy model cars into the Commons for use in articles in various Wikipedias, mainly the English and German ones for now. (Others can follow if other people want to use the photos.)

I didn't understand how to categorize at first, but somebody categorized my first photo (Matchbox-2006-StarsOfCars.jpg) for me, putting it in the category "toy cars". You then moved it to "model cars". I would just like to know what the correct category is...and why. Because based on the old categorization, I put 5 more photos in under "toy cars". Now it seems that might not be correct. Can you give me some guidance here?

(PS - Is your Wiki name any indication of an interest in Matchbox? Und verstehe ich es richtig, dass du [auch] deutsch sprichst? Ich suche nämlich jemanden, der mir hilft, den mäßigen Artikel über Matchbox in de.wikipedia auf den Stand des guten Artikels in en.wikipedia zu bringen.)

Thanks - Jtnet 08:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Ja, ich spreche (auch ;-) ) deutsch. Nein, mein Wiki-Name hat nichts mit Matchbox zu tun, ich bin überzeugter Siku-Anhänger. Zu meinen Verschiebungen: Die Kat „model cars“ ist eine Subkategorie der Kat „toy cars“. Daher habe ich die Bilder verschoben, da es sich unstreitig um Modelle existierender PKW-Modelle handelt, was bei Spielzeugautos nicht unbedingt der Fall sein muss. Aber es stimmt schon, dass in dem Bereich noch keine gefestigte Kategorienstruktr existiert.
Zu dem Matchbox-Artikel in de.wikipedia: den kann ich mir gerne mal anschauen, allerdings bin ich weder spezieller Experte, noch Fan von Matchbox (mich hat das Fehlen eines einheitlichen Maßstabes bei PKW und LKW schon als kleines Kind gestört, so dass ich mich schon mit vier oder fünf auf Siku-Modelle konzentriert habe). --MB-one 13:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


Air China, China Southern Airlins question

Hi MB-One,

I don't understand why you continue change the pages Air China and China Southern Airlines, modified previously by me, like this deleted which I have written.
If you want write your contributions, don't edit more the pages edit by me, please.

Thank You,
#talk, 15:55, 18/04/2007 (UTC)

Hi Luca Liao,
your edits are senseless. The galleries Air China and China Southern Airlines are correctly categorized as Category:Air China, which is a subcategory of Category:Airlines of China, respectively Category:Airlines of China. “Airlines of China” is categorized as “Airlines of Asia”, “Companies of China” and “Transport in China”. The cats, you added are, so I removed them and I will remove them. Hope you understand. Regards --MB-one 16:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Maserati COUPE

  • Hi MB-One, MB-one deleted a photograph gallery of my Maserati COUPE. Such an act irritates Kure. Please stop it
  • I am weak in English. I use translation software.
  • はじめまして。MB-oneさんがImage:Maserati COUPEに掲載した私の写真ギャラリーをあなたは勝手に削除した。このような行為は迷惑です。お止めください。--Kure 15:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Stop hand.svgYour incomprehensible editing is unpleasant. Please stop it.--Kure 20:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
What kind of editing do you mean? --MB-one 16:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

The image that kure put on Commons page deletes it.   I do not associate with you anymore.--Kure 23:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


The deletion of those images was requested by uploader --Zirland 18:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

uploading

Hello MB-one! Please, when you upload images from the en.wikipedia, always remember to place the tag {{subst:ncd}} in the original image, for example, here and here. If you change the name of the image, you can use the tag {{subst:ncd|image:new name}} . Thank you, Alfonso 18:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint. But as you can see, I'm doing so normally. In this special case, I forgot it. --MB-one 20:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Categorization of Image:SkyExpress B737.jpg

Hi. Regarding the categorization of Image:SkyExpress B737.jpg, I dispute your contention that "all B737 are civil aircrafts" in this edit. To the contrary, I point to w:Boeing Commercial Aircraft 737#Military.   — Jeff G. ツ 21:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

The military versions of the B737 are known as Boeing VC-96. --MB-one 00:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Porsche 911 in competition

Hi. I noticed you've been involved in editing Porsche racing-related categories. Ferdinand Porsche (talk · contribs) has de-populated and tried to speedily delete Category:Porsche 996 in competition and Category:Porsche 997 in competition again. I've started a discussion at Category Talk:Porsche 997 in competition, and I would appreciate your input there. Cheers! --Spyder Monkey 19:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Ave

Hi, I reverted Category:RENFE Class 103 again, this category must include photografies of this *train*, and AVE is not a train, AVE is a comercial name of high speed trains services of Renfe Operadora. the preceding unsigned comment is by Yrithinnd (talkcontribs)

I know about these facts, but in my opinion the categorization of images should be simple and logical. AVE is the name of a train system and the trains are part of the system since they are exclusivly used by this special system. The name "AVE" is printed on the cars! The diffentiation between trains and system is only for professionals and enthusiasts obvious, not for other.
--MB-one 19:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
The problem is that in other countries, there are only one kind of train, Germany has ICEs trains, France TGVs. On Spain exists 7 different trains, (2 more coming soon) and 4 differents companies (Alston, Siemens, Talgo-Bombardier and CAF). Probably Category:High speed trains of Spain and Category:AVE should be unique category, in this case High speed trains of Spain is most explicit name. Yrithinnd 20:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
That's not correct. There are five different types of trains (DBAG Class 401, DBAG Class 402, DBAG Class 403, DBAG class 411 and DBAG class 415) in the german ICE system and at least five different types of TGV trains. All TGV related images are categorized simply as Category:TGV, which is a subcategory of Category:High speed trains. On the other hand the AVE is not the only high speed train system in Spain, because of the Euromed. The merger of the two categories isn't reasonable. --MB-one 11:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
This is reasonable :P. I'm going to add services offered by each train class. This form, on the one hand will be categorized all high speed trains, on the other trains will be categorized acording services offered. Ok?. Yrithinnd 19:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

NttDoCoMo So505i

Stop hand.svgIt is warning。

Your incomprehensible editing is unpleasant. Please stop it.Because Sony Ericsson is one company of the maker which offers a Mobile phones to Japanese NTT DoCoMo(So505i), there is it as well as a category--Kure 05:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't understand japanese. So could you please translate your source roughly? My information is that, the NTT DoCoMo SO505i is a mobile phone manufactured by Sony Ericsson and only offered under the NTT DoCoMo brand (Source: [1], [2] German: "It is a mobile phone manufactured by Sony Ericsson..."). If you insist, the images could be categorized as Category:NTT DoCoMo SO505i instead of Category:Sony Ericsson SO505i. Nevertheless this category has to be categorized as Category:Sony Ericsson mobile phones and Category:NTT DoCoMo So series. Regards --MB-one 12:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Stop hand.svgWithout your understanding the situation of the Japanese mobile phone. You should not do a Japanese mobile phone brand, a category classification.

  • Only as for the production → Sony Ericsson.
  • So505i→Sale and support→NTTDoCoMobrand→So505i

You deleted NTTDoCoMo in what did a category of 2 of Sony Ericsson and NTTDoCoMo many times. A mistake of MB-one that this does not understand the situation of the Japanese mobile phone.

You should not classify a Japanese mobile phone brand, categories if you do not have the information that you do not understand the situation of the Japanese mobile phone definitely.--Kure 17:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Despite, I'm not an expert in the japanese mobile phone market, I know about some facts of this special model. Once again, the SO505i is manufactured by Sony Ericsson, not by NTT DoCoMo! NTT DoCoMo is the reseller. The phone has to be categorized as Sony Ericsson mobile phone as well as NTT DoCoMo mobile phone. I will recategorize the two images, please accept this. A newly revert, is vandalism and I'm not willing to tolerate it. Regards --MB-one 18:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Stop hand.svgSo505i → * Sony Ericsson. It was the category of the *NTTDoCoMo,2 unit.

I deleted only NTTDoCoMo without your understanding the Japanese mobile phone situation. The cause of this trouble is you. At first apologize in mistake of MB-one. ①So505i-Thursday, May 31, 2007 08:57, ②So505i-Thursday, May 31, 2007 08:56

If MB-one apologizes; So505i → * Sony Ericsson. I admit that I make it the category of the *NTTDoCoMo,2 unit

In the Japanese user, we have article recognition of NTTDoCoMo in So505i. It is the destructive act that is crazy that MB-one deletes a category of NTTDoCoMo.

The independent category of So505i is not necessary. It is good to be only the So series of NTTDoCoMo--Kure 18:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Black and blue

This is not black, this is deep blue :-)... red and blue are the official colors of the Carabinieri Corp.

Do you mind if I change that? --Jollyroger 12:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't mind. I didn't know about the specific colors of the Carabienieri and the photograph suggests a black varnish. Thank you. --MB-one 13:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Reply

Absolutely not. As was discussed on the English Wikipedia, many of the subcategories are impossible to navigate for uninformed users. Putting the images in both the main and subcategory allows for users wanting specific generations to get to them while allowing for the more casual searcher to browse through images rather than menus. I will re-revert if necessary. IFCAR 21:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me, but I'm not involved in the english Wikipedia and don't know about such a discussion. This is not the Wikipedia, this are the Commons and such edits has to be discussed here! Your scheme of categorization is against the policies. --MB-one 21:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Please stop reverting then while it is discussed. It is a waste of both of our time to go back and forth in the meantime.
What policy are your referring to, and what is wrong with my logic? IFCAR 21:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Any image has to be put only in the category most specific (sometimes there are more than one most specific category). Your logic would lead to put an image in the category "BMW E93" and - for the "uninformed users" - additionally in the category "BMW 3 Series", "BMW vehicles", "Automobiles" (not all users know about all these brands), "Vehicles" (not all users know about the exact definition of an automobile) , "Manufactured goods" and so on. All missing infomation of platforms, model generations, etc. could be found in the wikipedia by the "uninformed users" and it isn't impossible to navigate. --MB-one 21:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Make and model is easy. But even I don't know some of the various platform codes. I click on a link "Wikipedia Commons has media for the Cadillac Escalade" and see a set of alphanumeric codes regarding different generations and body styles.
Unnecessarily complex categories can always be made, does that mean the media must be sorted into them? For example, "Category:2002 Dodge Stratus". What's next, "Category:Maroon 2002 Dodge Stratus SXT sedan with optional sunroof and alloy wheels"?
Make and model is a logical standard, and the other categories are there for finding specifics quickly. IFCAR 21:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
In this case, all categories more specific than model has to be deleted. A compromise could be a gallery linked instead of the category in the wikipedia articles, e.g. Porsche 996. Such galleries could guide through the different platforms, trims, specials, etc. Once more, your proposition is unacceptable. --MB-one 22:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I didn't say subcategories don't have their place. But they often make it too difficult to find what you're looking for.
A compromise could be showing a few of the images from the subcategory next to its link, so users can know what to expect from it. Also, particularly in cases where the platform code is less commonly used (something more like GMT804, less like E46), switching to or also including descriptors like "First Generation" or "Convertible" would be appropriate.
But the situation as it is now is unacceptable. IFCAR 22:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Would that compromise be acceptable to you? IFCAR 14:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
To show an example image near to the subcategory will be a technical problem, but I would accept it. I prefer the solution with image galleries, linked in the wikipedia articles instead of categories. --MB-one 17:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Galleries often don't fit the format of Wikipedia articles, which is why even the most useful ones are often deleted. I'm not sure how my solution would be a technical problem, but if it is, is it a solvable one?
And is there someone else's opinion I need to get before doing that, lest someone else go through and revert? IFCAR 17:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm talking about galleries here on the Commons, not in the article namespace of the wikipedia. The gallerie BMW 3 Series exists already. Such galleries are also existent in other branches of the Commons and I didn't hear about any of them was deleted. --MB-one 11:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I suppose that's an acceptable example to follow. IFCAR 16:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Allstate

At Image talk:1952-allstate.jpg, please see my follow-up question. Thanks. - Jmabel | talk 23:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please give images good descriptions

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I noticed you've uploaded one or more images and I thought I should turn your attention to a common error.
Please give some thought to writing a good description of uploaded images. This ensures that they can be used. It also helps those that review and improve categories do a better job, which also ensures that images will get used in novel and interesting ways. Thanks, and happy editing! __ ABF __ ϑ 15:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

A209 / W209 deletion requests

hi, I can't figure out what is going on with those categories (no idea about Mercs) - can you perhaps have a look at the deletion request (Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Mercedes-Benz W209 AMG) and clear up the situation? Thanks. Deadstar (msg) 14:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:The_gogo-dancers_red_G-String.jpg

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Patstuart (talk) 00:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Cities in Germany

Habe festgestellt, dass Du die Kategorie Cities in Germany wieder aktiviert hast. Da vor einiger Zeit sämtliche deutschen Orte nach Municipalities of Germany mit Unterkategorien verschoben hatten, wollte ich Deine Änderungen nicht einfach kommentarlos rückgängig machen, sondenr nach dem Grund fragen. -- Rüdiger Wölk 15:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Das die Kategorie schon einmal bestand wusste ich nicht. Jedoch sind ja nicht alle Gemeinden Städte daher habe ich die Kat abgelegt. --MB-one 19:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
aber alle Städte sind Gemeinden. Und dann macht es sinn, das wieder in den letzten Zustand zurück zu versetzen. -- Rüdiger Wölk 22:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Offenbar wird für alle Länder zwischen Städten und Gemeinden unterschieden, warum also nicht für deutsche? --MB-one 22:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Warum? Alle Städte sind gemeinden, auch alle Dörfer sind Gemeinden. Es gibt halt sehr große Gemeinden, die heissen dann Großstadt. Und es gibt halt auch sehr kleine Gemeinden, die heissen Dorf. Gemeinde ist der Überbegriff und keine Unterscheidung. Die deutsche Wiki hilft im Zweifelsfall weiter. Grundlage ist die deutsche Gemeindeordnung. -- Rüdiger Wölk 12:11, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Das ist schon richtig, jedoch besitzen die Städte immerhin einen Sonderstatus unter den Gemeinden, der IHMO eine eigene Kategorie rechtfertigt. Aber ich sehe, du hast schon alles rückgängig gemacht, dann bleibt es eben so. --MB-one 12:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Saab image

Danke! In what context was it used? It seems to happen all the time with my photos... --User:Sfoskett 00:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

That indicates the quality of your images. It was a short article about the Saab 900 at the Panorama page. --MB-one 11:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Well thanks very much for letting me know at least! You wouldn't happen to have a scan of the page, would you? --Sfoskett 20:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Toyota Camry (sixth generation) (front), Serdang.jpg and Image:Toyota Camry (sixth generation) (rear), Serdang.jpg

Referring to the images above, there may be a bit of a problem excluding Category:Toyota Aurion. Though only one generation of Aurions were released at present, the Aurion-based Camry is marketed as member of the longer running Camry line in East and Southeast Asian market, parallel to the JDM and North American releases (hence the inclusion of "sixth generation" in the title). And while the image was uploaded before my revelation the car was simply a rebadged Aurion, the categorisation of images should also take into account the image's description, which in this case points out the car's relation with the Aurion rather than the original Camry.

Listing the image solely in the Camry category implies that the car was and is always been a JDM/North American Camry, disregarding its indirect evolution. Both the front and rear shots of this car are used in en:Toyota Aurion, so the categorisation of the images into the Aurion cat seems reasonable for maintenance purposes.

Given the unusual development of the car, however, there are a few solutions I can think of:

What's your view? - Two hundred percent 04:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Is it correct, that the current Camry and the Aurion shares the platform XV40? In this case, it would be best, to create a category for the XV40 platform and categorize both (Category:Toyota Camry XV40 and Category:Toyota Aurion) as Category:Toyota XV40. But a categorization of a single image in Aurion and Camry seems not logical to me, because a single exemplar can't be sold under both labels. Oh, by the way what means JDM? I dont't know the term. --MB-one 16:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Excuse my belatedness. Yes, as far as Wikipedia's Aurion article is concerned, the Aurion is merely a facelifted version of the original XV40 Camry for localised markets. If a merge of categories is needed, you may want to bring it up among maintainers of these categories for confirmation. JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market, referring to products (including road vehicles) exclusively used in Japan. - Two hundred percent 11:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Audi 100 2d

I see you categorised an image I uploaded. Thank you. However, you categorised it as a silver car. Actually it was a green car. Gruen bedeutet Hoffnung... Still, the picture is faded a bit. I guess if it looks silver to the objective viewer, silver it is.... Regards Charles01 19:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


Image:Elefantjuice.jpg

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Esrever (klaT) 03:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

As a followup to the edit summary you left on the image when removing the {{copyvio}} tag, it is a derivative work. Yes, it's a photograph to which you own the copyright, but the thing you're taking a picture of—the bottle's label—has a copyright, too. Take a look at the derivative works guideline to see what I mean. Cheers! Esrever (klaT) 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
First: It's not me, who take the picture and claim the copyright! In my opinion it's not a photograph of a lable but a photograph of a bottle with a lable. And if you take a look in the Category:Liquor bottles you will find plenty of images of bottles with lables, are they all against commons copyright guidelines? At Derivative_works#Isn't every product copyrighted by someone? What about cars? Or kitchen chairs? My computer case? I found: "On the other hand [...] objects of daily use are usually not copyrightable". Isn't a bottle an object of daily use? Thanks --MB-one 07:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
As Durova noted in the deletion discussion, the image on the label is copyrighted. Since the label is itself the focus of the image, it's a derivative work. And I'm sure that Category:Liquor bottles is chock full of copyvios, but that's not a reason to keep this particular image. This is the one I happened to stumble across, so it got tagged per policy. It's nothing personal against you in any way. It's just that this image isn't acceptable on Commons.
And you're right: I should have noted above that you're not the one who took the picture, just the uploader to Commons. Cheers! :) Esrever (klaT) 18:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Holden Statesman

Please stop changing the Holden Statesman-related categories to Holden Statesman/Caprice. This is an incorrect title and they should not be named this way. See the English Wikipedia entry on Holden Statesman for more information. No one has been sent to an early grave with that title so it should remain consistent here. Furthermore, VFACTS which is published by he Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (an Australian Government agency) classifies the Statesman and Caprice as the same car. I would appreciate it if you would repair the categories to their previous state. OSX 07:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

In fact, it is the same car, with two different names. But a Holden Caprice is only marketed as Caprice, not as Statesman. Even under the Statesman marque, they was sold under two names I wouldn't be correct, to sort Caprice vehicles in a Statesman category. At first, I looked for different categories, but you reverted. So I thought, a common cat for Statesman and Caprice is the best solution, but it has to be named like both models. It should be easy, to change the commons links in the wikipedia to the new category.
Regards, --MB-one 09:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I preferred it when they were two separate categories over the new naming system. On the English Wikipedia this method is discouraged and articles mention alternative names in the introduction. OSX 03:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as though you've taken no action, I've fixed up the categories myself. Please DO NOT revert before further discussion. Regards OSX 06:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
So, you want two different categories (Statesman & Caprice)? But why did you simply revert to the former state instead of create the new categories? --MB-one 11:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

(indent reset) I said I preferred the two category system OVER the Statesman/Caprice system. However, I still wanted the category system back to its original state. OSX 05:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Berlin-Mitte

Hello MB-one, thank you for relocating Category:Sculptures in Berlin-Mitte-Tiergarten-Wedding as the new Category:Sculptures in Bezirk-Mitte. You could at least have given time to react on the talk page. But you were apparently in a great hurry. Now everybody in the whole world does understand. I tried to divide Berlin in the twelve new Bezirke by combining the old names. Not everybody visiting Wikimedia Commons comes from Berlin or even is German. I could understand renaming it: Category:Sculptures in Berlin-Mitte (without the word Bezirk) like the other ones. --Gerardus 13:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

All subcategories of the Category:Berlin should be sorted like City, Borough, Quarter. Since the are no boroughs named e.g. “Mitte-Tiergarten-Wedding”, I recategorized the sculpture categories. --MB-one 13:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
On whose authority my dear MB? Und auch in Berlin sagt man nur Berlin-Mitte und nicht Bezirk Berlin-Mitte! Was hast du dazu zu sagen? Du kannst doch erst mal richtig überlegen und dann etwas tun und dass ohne Krieg. Ich warte mal ab was du noch zu sagen hast.--Gerardus 13:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Ganz einfach: die Kategorieordnung besteht so aus guten Gründen. Ich habe lediglich die „Sculptures“ dem angepasst. --MB-one 13:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Du redest nicht, das sehe ich schon. Aber Wedding gehört doch auch zur Bezirk Mitte :(Liste der Bezirke und Ortsteile Berlins - Wikipedia ). You make it so easy for yourself, but you ignore others. Don't forget we have to do it together on Wikimedia!--Gerardus 13:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Na und? Wedding ist doch unter Bezirk Mitte eingeordnet. Achtung: Bezirk Mitte und Berlin-Mitte ist nicht das selbe! --MB-one 13:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Bist Du damit einverstanden, dass ich „Mitte“ und „Tiergarten“ wieder unter „Bezirk Mitte“ einordne? --MB-one 14:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
OK MB-one, go ahead and relocate all twelve categories as Bezirk. But, please do me as favour and let the undercategories exist as they are. It took me a few days to sort all images from sculptures in Berlin and place them in the categories which I had to create myself (not knowing Berlin at all). What I still don't understand is, why such actions must take place in a hurry and without visiting a talk page. I felt sick for a few moments after all the work I had done and I was very angry.

Grüsse--Gerardus 14:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, that you felt sick. I'll resort the categories step-by-step in boroughs and quarters. The quarter categories, they will still exist as they are, only sorted in their respective borough. --MB-one 14:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Van

Hi! Just a quick note to advise I have reverted your inclusion of the Category:Mitsubishi Delica Space Gear into Category:Vans. Although the previous model Delica - the L300 Star Wagon was available in a commercial van model the L400 Space Gear has only been available as a 'People Carrier'. Richard Harvey 23:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Panavia Tornado in German service

As far as I can remember, and both the [Panavia_Tornado#German_Air_Force_.28Luftwaffe.29 English] and [Panavia_Tornado#Tornadotypen_der_Deutschen_Luftwaffe German] wikipedias the Tornado was in use by the Luftwaffe? With the Naval Tornado squadrons having been recently retired. Would you disagree with a reverting to the inclusion of the Tornado as a Luftwaffe type. KTo288 01:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I would because, the current state isn't the only state. As you can see, some of the Tornados was used by the navy and so the images of this time don't show Luftwaffe aircrafts. regards --MB-one 13:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay this was the same problem we had for the Tornado category to start with all of them were being categorised as being in service with the RAF, Italian air force etc without being specific which were which. The solution then was to split into sub cats per country. I guess it should be okay to split the German Tornado category into two further sub categories, one for the Navy and one for the Luftwaffe with the present category remaining where it is and the aircraft of those services being categorised under those services.KTo288 10:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The Navy and Air Force aircraft have now been given their own sub-categories I hope this is acceptable.KTo288 10:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
It is. Thanks for your cooperation. --MB-one 10:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
No, thank you, for your patience. It's certainly feels more correct having them split like this.KTo288 22:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Wedding/Gesundbrunnen

Hallo MB-one, schau mal bitte hier vorbei, ich habe deine Änderung rückgängig gemacht (es fehlte eine Begründung), dann aber gerade Berlin-Gesundbrunnen entdeckt - was ist denn jetzt richtig? Falls ich falsch lag, meine Änderung einfach wieder rückgängig machen; Und falls dich die doppelte Aktion nervt: kommentiere einfach deine Änderungen - das spart dir Mehrarbeit und hilft anderen; Grüße, -- Schusch 13:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Du lagst falsch, aber das kann man dir nicht anlasten, da ich tatsächlich vergaß, eine Begründung anzugeben. Daher habe ich meine Änderungen wieder vorgenommen und entsprechend begründet. --MB-one 17:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
ich befürchtete es - ich habe bei Berlin-Gesundbrunnen einen entsprechenden Halbsatz eingefügt, danke für die Hilfe ... Gruß, -- Schusch 11:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Ich sollte mich mal bedanken für Deine Fleißarbeit zu den Panke-Bildern, ja klar ist die Category Gesundbrunnen wesentlich besser und dann auch für die Mühe nicht die Panke für alles zu kategorisieren. --Paul - eine Silbersonne 18:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


Toyota RAV4

I've created subcategories for those pages, however. -- Bull-Doser 00:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Categorizing Impreza photos

Hi. I'd be grateful if you could stop reverting my edits - I'm cleaning up the mess here and I have in mind quite a reorganization (similar to the one I made in Lancers photos). Just be patient. Regards, Maggot666PL 22:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Cat:Minivans and Cat:MPVs

Hello! Why are you moving categories from Category:Minivans to Category:MPVs? Both terms mean exactly the same: the first one is used in North America, and the second one in the United Kingdom. --NaBUru38 (talk) 19:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Lock tower Iffezheim is alread in subcategory

Whoops - and *I* placed it there, too. My bad! Ingolfson (talk) 13:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

VW Caddy Typ 2K in VW Poznań

About VW Caddy Typ 2K made in Volkswagen Poznań read for egzample: Volkswagen Poznań oficial website. Do You known another plant where is made?

Read too: Alle Caddys der aktuellen Generation werden ausschließlich im polnischen VW-Werk Poznań gebaut. in de.wikipedia.

Marek Banach (talk) 10:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm sorry. I didn't mind this special model. I only saw the T4 and T5. I knew, that they are/where mainly build in Hannover, so I deleted them all. It seems, with the Caddy, I was wrong. --MB-one (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
VW Transporter T4 and T5 was/is made too in VW Poznań (1993-present), actually 120 vehicles/day T5/Caravelle. See: In Posen gebauter Stadtlieferwagen. Posen, auf polnisch Poznań, ist das Co-Werk von Hannover, d. h. es werden dort der T5 (außer Multivan und Camper) und der Caddy hergestellt Die offenen Varianten des T5 (Pritsche/ Doppelkabine) werden ausschließlich in Poznań gebaut. in de.wikipedia. --Marek Banach (talk) 19:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Police cars in Germany

You have changed the categorisation of Image:DPolG Van 03.jpg two times in a category that doesn't exist. Special reason? --Stunteltje (talk) 19:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Must be cat:Police of Germany. Changed it. --MB-one (talk) 19:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
All other police cars of Germany are gathered in Category:Police cars in Germany. Is there a special reason why you insist in categorising in Category:Police of Germany?. --Stunteltje (talk) 20:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Of course, there is a special reason. The car isn't a police car, but a car of the trade union for police officers („Gewerkschaft der Polizei“). Hope, I could help you. --MB-one (talk) 11:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
In that case you were definately right in what you did. Please add that Union information in the picture for convenience of categorisers later. I'll have a look tonight whether or not I have made the mistake before.--Stunteltje (talk) 11:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Acura TL

Nowadays, I've created subcategories for the Category:Acura TL page. UA2 is 1996-98, UA5 is 1999-2003, UA6/7 is 2004-2008, and UA8/9 is the current generation. -- Bull-Doser (talk) 03:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

You're awesome!

Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your identification of all the cars in my photos! --Specious (talk) 14:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

File:Lamborghini Gallardo British police 1.JPG

What makes you say File:Lamborghini Gallardo British police 1.JPG is fake? I took the photo, I think the car and the police with it were real. edward (talk) 21:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The police was real. But the car is borrowed from Lamborghini and just pasted up with some checkered stickers and a removable lighbar. And that's for only one day as an eyecatcher, not for daily use. That's no real police car. Best regards --MB-one (talk) 23:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Bist du da..

wirklich sicher? -- Southgeist (talk) 11:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Na, wonach sollte der Platz sonst benannt sein? --MB-one (talk) 11:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

rv of Fiat cat.

Any particular reason why you reverted Category:Fiat Coupé as Category:Straight-5 engines? Are engines of this arrangement suddenly so commonplace that we shouldn't categorize that handful (four?) of cars that used them? Andy Dingley (talk) 23:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

The case was, that the Fiat Coupé used straight-4 engines as well, not only straight-5s. And there are way more car models that used straight-5s. For instance many Mercedes Diesel models of the 90s like the E-Class, the G-Class, etc. Only as petrol engine this type is rather rare. Kindly regards --MB-one (talk) 12:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I'd agree both of your points, but still consider that Fiat coupe belongs in this cat. As a petrol engined car engine, this is a rare usage (thus worthy of categorisation) and I can't see a more specific example (e.g. engine bay photo) of the engine itself. Similarly for the Volvo 850. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Generally, I'm not against such categorization. Not even if we're talking about usual engine types. But IMO all engine variants (if there is more than one) of a model must fit in the specific category. In this case, it's possible, that a straight-4 engined Coupé is categorized as straight-5 and that's not correct. Hope, you got my point. Regards --MB-one (talk) 22:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I disagree. While you're absolutely right, we now get to an issue of interpretation regarding the restrictions of MediaWiki's categorization mechanism. Does placing a sub-cat into another super-cat mean that all members of that sub-cat must be members of the super-cat? Or does it merely mean that the sub-cat itself has some definable member of the super-cat? Now as these features are quite limited, I don't believe we can work as usefully with the first interpretation as we can we the second. In this restricted toolset, we're better off taking the second, broader interpretation - Let alone without the general unreliability of folksonomy categorizations reducing our confidence in absolute reasoning based upon them! Andy Dingley (talk) 22:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Could you please explain more fully...

Could you please explain more fully why you redirected Category:Waterbomber to Category:Air tanker?

You did so without addressing my concern that "Air tanker" was a poor name, for several reasons.

Is there some place where a discussion took place and the decision to perform this redirection was made? If so, where? Geo Swan (talk) 03:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't read your comment on the discussion before, sorry. Feel free to redirect Air Tanker to Waterbomber. --MB-one (talk) 12:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


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Categorizing people

I have a question concerning categories for people. Is the convention that we create a category by name when the individual has 2 or more photographs? What is the forumla for deciding when someone gets their own category? Thank you (Mind meal (talk) 10:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC))

IMO numbers

The category:Ships by IMO number is nominated for deletion. I created that category to group the files of ships and to make the information on ships easy to find. But I am aware of the fact that not every user has an idea of the IMO system. You added categories to the IMO category, but I think it is not so useful to work with IMO categories the other way around. I assumed the best way of using is putting the IMO category to the individuals ship file only. I didn't rever your additions, because it is a suggestion. --Stunteltje (talk) 11:18, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

You got a point. I'll revert it. Regards --MB-one (talk) 17:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Dorotheenstraße

Hallo MB-one,
wieso hast du hier die Kategorie wieder entfernt? Ich bin mir sicher, dass noch einige Dorotheenstraßenbilder aus dem Bundesarchiv/der Fotothek dazukommen werden. Ich kann damit leben, würde nur gerne deine Begründung für die Entfernung und die Löschung wissen wollen (denn eigentlich ist dafür ja der Editkommentar gedacht...) --Jcornelius (talk) 15:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, vergesse manchmal den editkommentar auszufüllen. Also, der Grund ist, die Category:Internationales Handelszentrum (Berlin) ist schon unter Category:Dorotheenstraße (Berlin-Mitte) einsortiert. Grüße --MB-one (talk) 23:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Kopernikusstraße

?. Beim Straßenschild selber machts ja noch Sinn, die in die Kat. NC, aber doch nicht bei den Häusern. --Matthead (talk) 19:04, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Die Straße ist nun mal nach ihm benannt. --MB-one (talk) 01:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


Category:Hostels in Germany

Hallo MB-one, mir ist nicht klar, was Du hier vorhast. Jugendherbergen werden allgemein als Sonderform von Hotels angesehen. In Category:Hostels by country siehst Du hierfür reichlich Beispiele. Lediglich in Deutschland ist von Dir Hostels direkt unter Accommodation buildings gestellt. Meine Korrektur hierzu hast Du mehrfach rückgängig gemacht. Worum geht es Dir? Denkst Du, dass Jugendherbergen in Deutschland grundsätzlich anders kategorisiert werden müssen als im Rest der Welt? Willst Du die von Dir erzeugte Category:Accommodation buildings in Germany vielleicht nur künstlich füllen, weil es außer Category:Hotels in Germany anscheinend keinen weiteren sinnvollen Inhalt gibt? Gruß -- Ies (talk) 15:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Dass Herbergen als Sonderform für Hotels angesehen werden, dafür hätte ich gerne einen Beleg. --MB-one (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

European College of Liberal Arts

Hallo, danke für die Kategorien-Erweiterung bei ECLA. Als Notiz für später die Anmerkung, dass die räumliche Zuordnung unter Vorbehalt ist. Das eine Gebäude, das ich fotografierte, ist in Niederschönhausen (Kuckhoffstraße), aber das ECLA nutzt wohl mehrere Gebäude, bei denen ich nicht weiß, ob sie alle in Niederschönhausen liegen. Ich schaute auf der Homepage der Institution nach, dort ist aber kein Lageplan. – Wie findest Du eigentlich die korrekte Bezirks-/Ortsteil-Zuordnung eines Objekts heraus? Ich habe online noch keine gute Karte mit allen Grenzen gefunden und bin drauf und dran, ein Vermessungsamt einer Bezirksverwaltung aufzusuchen, um mir mal eine gute Berlin-Karte zuzulegen. Jochen --Iotatau (talk) 15:33, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Auf Niederschönhausen bin ich über die Postadresse des ECLA gekommen. Bezüglich der Ortsteilzurdnung kann ich die Karten der BVG empfehlen, die enthalten alle Bezirks- und Ortsteilgrenzen. --MB-one (talk) 21:16, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


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Categories for discussion/Paris, Texas

Hi MB-one,

As you placed several aircraft into city categories, I was wondering if you might be interested in the above request. -- User:Docu at 23:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I wasn't aware of such a discussion. --MB-one (talk) 00:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I changed Category:D-AIQR (aircraft). What do you think of it? -- User:Docu at 00:44, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Even, a simple wikilink in the line above would have been enough. But it’s okay this way. --MB-one (talk) 10:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

File:2010PriusIIWhite.JPG

Hello. I reverted your edit to File:2010PriusIIWhite.JPG. Although purchased in 2009, the car is the "2010" model year. (It was purchased by an aquaintance of mine.) Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

The model year may be 2010, but it was built in 2009. That makes it a 2009 automobile. Cheers --MB-one (talk) 00:36, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

File:D-ABVWrightside.JPG‎

Hallo MB-one, Kannst du mir ganz kurz erklären, warum du bei der genannten Datei und einigen anderen die Kategorisierung "Boeing 747-400" und "Lufthansa Passage" entfernt hast, weil ich das logisch nicht nachvollziehen kann (es handelt sich ja um den angegebenen Flugzeugtyp bzw. die Airline)? Ich bin nur ein unregelmässiger Mitarbeiter und kenne mich deshalb nicht allzu gut mit der Kategorisierung aus, deshalb meine Frage, erspart unnötige Arbeit, wenn ich das in Zukunft richtig mache. Dank und Grüße Man-ucommons (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Man-ucommons, die Dateien sind über die Registrierung sowieso schon entsprechend kategorisiert. Also müssen sie nicht nocheinmal in diese Kategorien. Grüße --MB-one (talk) 18:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Category:Berlin in alten Ansichten

Hallo MB-one, Was hat es denn nun mit dieser Kategorie auf sich? Was soll sie enthalten?

1. Da sich in der Kategorie nicht nur Postkarten befinden, erschien mir eine Kategorisierung unter 19th century postcards und Category:Postcards of Berlin zunächst wenig sinnvoll. Dieser Schritt wurde von Dir wieder rückgängig gemacht.

2. Da es sich bei dieser Abbildung keineswegs um eine eine Postkarte, habe ich diese aus der Kategorie entfernt. Auch dies wurde von Dir wieder rückgängig gemacht.

Ich schlage vor, die entsprechenden Abbildungen in sinnvollere Kategorien zu verteilen (z. B. Category:Postcards of Berlin-Kreuzberg etc.) und die Category:Berlin in alten Ansichten wieder zu entfernen.--Janericloebe (talk) 11:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Janericloebe,
"Berlin in alten Ansichten" ist eine Sammlung von alten Postkarten (siehe buecher-nach-isbn.info); daher die entsprechende Kategorisierung. Was macht dich so sicher, dass es sich nicht überall um Postkarten handelt?
Gegen eine genauere Kategorisierung der einzelnen Motive spricht aber natürlich nichts, da bin ich gerne bereit zu helfen. Grüße --MB-one (talk) 11:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Wenn Du die Quelle der Bilder kategorisieren willst, solltest Du Category:Berlin in alten Ansichten nach Category:Image sources verschieben. Die Kategorisierungen unter 19th century postcards und Category:Postcards of Berlin scheint hier wenig sinnvoll. Postkarten stammen aus den verschiedensten Quellen und die entsprechenden Kategorien würden früher oder später vor Unterkategorien wie Category:Alte Ansichten von ..., Category:Alte Postkarten aus... o. ä. platzen.
Auf der anderen Seite stammen bereits zahlreiche Bilder aus der von Dir genannten Quelle (siehe u.a. File:Charlottenburger Bruecke mit Ch.Tor 076.jpg). Ich glaube, dass es wenig sinnvoll ist, all diese Dateien nachträglich in die Kategorie Berlin in alten Ansichten zu stecken, zumal die meisten Bilder bereits in der Kategorie Postcards of Berlin etc. einsortiert wurden.
Dass es sich bei o.g. Bild nicht um eine Postkarte handelt, ist eindeutig (siehe Wikipedia-Artikel Postkarte).
Ansonsten gibt es unter Commons:Kategorien noch einige Hinweise zum Thema. Gruß --Janericloebe (talk) 12:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

9V-SKD

Hi MB, I reverted your edit on Category:9V-SKD (aircraft)‎‎. If the category is removed, when searching by registration, one can't find it easily any more from Category:Airbus A380. -- User:Docu at 15:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


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Mercedes-Benz buses

Create category "Mercedes-Benz buses build in Germany"!!! Marek Banach (talk) 11:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Mercedes-Benz Türk

Mercedes-Benz Türk built many models Mercedes-Benz buses and trucks, with MB Tourismo 15 and Tourismo 17 (for Turkey and export), see OSD report XII 2009, page 6-7. Why you change Category:Mercedes-Benz Tourismo? Marek Banach (talk) 23:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Not all Tourismos are built by Mercedes-benz Türk. That's important. --MB-one (talk) 08:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
What problem? Create text in this category like: "Mercedes-Benz Tourismo coach built in Germany and Turkey." Answer will by dane in my user talk, not your!!! Marek Banach (talk) 10:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Category:MAN buses

Create category "MAN buses built in Germany" or don't change this category!!! Marek Banach (talk) 12:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I can't, because I don't know, what models or types are built in what country. And please, will you get rid of that commanding tone. This is a project of volounteers and not the army. Best regards --MB-one (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Buses

Any chance you can make yourself fully aware of the Category:Buses in the United Kingdom structure before making big changes without consensus? While changing the Southern Vectis categories (even though it makes it all about ten times more complicated and much less easier to use in practice), is fair enough as it was slight over-categorisation, I've noticed some other problems. For example, File:FirstGroup bus 50265 Mercedes-Benz 709D Plaxton N289 JUG in Todmorden 14 May 2007.jpg. Forget about the Plaxton cats as there seems to be confusion surrounding that. However, the Category:Buses in the United Kingdom category is used as a holding place for unsorted files. Clearly, File:FirstGroup 50265... isn't fully categorised, so it is in the main Buses in the UK cat so that it will eventually be categorised fully. If the Buses in the UK cat is removed, then the file gets "lost", only categorised in half the categories it should be. Hope that helps! Arriva436talk/contribs 17:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I like to say, that I am aware of the structure. But it lacks some logic, so I tried to help fixing it. Because of the vast number of files in the cat, it coulb be only a little help for now. I don't fully understand what you are meaning by saying, "forget about xy". The file, you mentioned was (again) over catgeorized. Since it is already in the Category:Mercedes-Benz buses in the United Kingdom and Category:Plaxton buses in the United Kingdom, I can't find any reason, it has to be in the more common Category:Buses in the United Kingdom. It would be more simple to add the missing cats, then add an overcat. --MB-one (talk) 18:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
What I meant was don't worry about the removal an addition of the Plaxton and Mercedes-Benz T2 categories to the said file, I was foucusing purley on the removal of the main buses in the UK category.
"Since it is already in the Category:Mercedes-Benz buses in the United Kingdom and Category:Plaxton buses in the United Kingdom, I can't find any reason, it has to be in the more common Category:Buses in the United Kingdom." Well, as I said above: "Clearly, File:FirstGroup 50265... isn't fully categorised, so it is in the main Buses in the UK cat so that it will eventually be categorised fully. If the Buses in the UK cat is removed, then the file gets "lost", only categorised in half the categories it should be."
As it says at Category:Buses in the United Kingdom, each file can be categories under the sub cats of: Manufacturer, Region, Type (single-deck, double-deck etc), Use (public transport, private hire etc), Date of photograph, Date of Registration, and Operator.
However, some files are only in some of those categories. Therefore, they remain in the main Category:Buses in the United Kingdom category, so that eventually someone (likely me), can come round, and categorise it fully under all of the 7 sub cats (though region is sometimes missed out if the operator cat is already in the region cat). If the image is left in only, say, 3 of the 7 sub cats, and it is taken out of the main Buses in UK category, then it will be "lost". That is, there will be no way of finding that it's only in 3 of the 7 sub cats, and therefore it will permanently be in only 3 out of 7 sub cats. Hence, it temporaily should stay in the main category.
I'm not sure what you mean by "It would be more simple to add the missing cats, then add an overcat". I can only take it to mean to add the missing subcategories. For which, there needs to be some way for it to be found, hence is temporarily stays in the main Buses in UK category! Arriva436talk/contribs 19:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Berliner Gedenktafel, Ortsteile

Hallo MB-one,

musste leider nochmal den Ortsteil für die Kreuznacher Strasse berichtigen. Der Ortsteil ist definitiv Wilmersdorf. Für die anderen Berichtigungen danke ich Dir. --OTFW (talk) 05:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Hallo OTFW,
du hast natürlich recht. Das hatte ich beim ersten Durchsehen auf der Karte verwechselt. Danke und Gruß --MB-one (talk) 11:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

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Please give images good descriptions

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I noticed you've uploaded File:IFA 2009 n-tv Messestudio.jpg and I thought I should draw your attention to a common error.
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High Contrast (talk) 12:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Automet VW Crafter TDI in Kielce.jpg etc.

Automet buses in Poland is the correct cat for model and place, but it isn't correct cat for model. Good category for Automet models are: Automet Apollo and "Category:Automet Mercedes-Benz Sprinter" (or maybe: "Category:Automet Mercedes-Benz Sprinter buses", "Category:Automet Mercedes-Benz Sprinter (2006) buses"), "Category:Automet Volkswagen Crafter" (or maybe "Category:Automet Volkswagen Crafter buses")!!! Automet produced buses like "Automet Feniks" and buses base on "Iveco Daily", "Mercedes-Benz Vario", "Volkswagen LT". In this moment no theirs foto in Wikipedia Commons. For this models category "Automet buses in Poland" is uncategorized category for model!!! I thank you for experience with categorization and over categorization!!! I created category "Automet buses by country". Its not over categorization for category "Automet buses"! But why you uncategorized this foto and don't speired me why I create this "over category"? Why you don't created category "Automet buses by country"? Marek Banach (talk) 05:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Now, what you mean is, that there should be a category for the respective models of Automet buses in which they are sorted? Then, yes, you're maybe right. But why didn't you simply create such specific categories instead of reverting to a suboptimal status? And sorry for the syntax fault on your discussion page. Best regards. --MB-one (talk) 14:33, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Why do you again discuss with yourself (in your "User talk" not my)? Marek Banach (talk) 19:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
You brought this discussion here, not me. Anyway, would you please answer my question? Otherwise I will have to revert the respective image categories. Best Regards --MB-one (talk) 00:50, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
1) I'm in Wikipedia from several years. You are first person which answers on my questions in yours "User talk". I think, that this is inappropriate. 2) Yes, I think there should be a categorys for the respective models of Automet buses in which they are sorted. 3) I don't create such specific categories, because I don't known which from above mentioned is the best. If you know, you can it create. Best regards. Marek Banach (talk) 19:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Obviously, we are used to different discussion schemes; that is not the point. I understand, if you don't want to create new categories. But in the currrent state, we have an perfect example for overcategorization and that is not acceptable. As long as there are no specific model categories, the images can only be sorted as "Automet buses in Poland" plus their respective base model cats. I hope you understand. Best regards --MB-one (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)