User talk:Manstaruk/Archive

Ffestiniog Railway transfers

Generally, it's best if images are in a category that they are not also in that category's parent category. I plan to add a cat on engines of the FR and organise the images that way as well, for ease of use. Why in particular do you think that the images should be in both FR and station cats? -mattbuck (Talk) 00:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The fact that it's Porthmadog station implies that it's FR. I suppose Blaenau/Minffordd are a bit ambiguous, but otherwise the stations are all FR. If you wish to have them in the FR cat as well, by all means feel free, it would probably make my life easier for when I get done with stations and create the engine cats. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The cat in question is Porthmadog Harbour Station, not the WHR terminus or the mainline rail. As for stations of the FR, it seemed a reasonable way to group the stations together. As for your comment about en.wp, things work differently here. en.wp may have 20 articles on the FR, commons has around 100 images, and it will be more once I get going properly. An individual station on en has 1 article, and that's all. Here a station has more images, and so it makes sense to categorise them this way. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

You appear to be making my argument for me there (with regards to "stations of the FR"). I agree there will always be photos between stations, and that these should just be generalised to the FR cat, but it also makes sense to group those stations of the FR together in the same way it makes sense to group the engines together. Maybe we should take this to COM:VP and solicit advice. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Village Pump#Categorisation conundrum -mattbuck (Talk) 12:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm trying to upload a ton more images of the various stations and places on the FR. Would you be interested in creating a gallery to try and put these into a "virtual ride" on the FR from Porthmadog to Bleanau? -mattbuck (Talk) 16:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Ffestiniog Railway images topic at the Village Pump

I've responded to your discussions at the Village Pump (in a new thread as the Archive bot did its stuff whilst I was formulating a reply). Railwayfan2005 (talk) 19:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Apology

Hi. I've written a formal apology and explanation for my actions over the past two weeks at Talk:Ffestiniog_Railway#An_apology. Although I resent the personal attack you posted on my wikipedia talk page, I hold no malice towards any contributor, here or on Wikipedia, and I'd like this chance to explain myself fully before the FR editing community. Thanks. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:LittleGiant.jpg

I've restored both Image:LittleGiant.jpg and Image:StesionFein.jpg, and moved the no source date so that they will be deleted again in a week if no source is found. Oh, and thanks for the info about FR not using LNWR station, I'll separate the commons cats of Stesion Fein and LNWR. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Stesion Fein

OK, though in future please feel free to just fix it if the details are wrong. I've recategorised the lot. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

No changes under the copyright? The images require attribution to the original author, and a link to the licence, that's pretty much it - you could claim it's a screencap of Biker Mice from Mars if you wanted. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

RE letter service, I've told commonsdelinker to change Ffestiniog Railway Letter Service cat to Festiniog Railway Letter Service. Thanks for the heads up. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:57, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

File:FRL-6H.jpg

Further note on letter service - it's definitely FR/WHR, not just FR. Check out FRL-6H.jpg - WHR stamp, and to be posted on arrival at Dinas. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

there are 3 marks on the picture in question saying FR - No WHR Stamp, and no indication saying WHR. The Railway Letter service is an adjunct of the Festiniog Railway Co (note single F). The operation of the service is undertaken by a long standing FR volunteer. The WHR does not have its own RLS. --Keith (talk) 17:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Not saying it's a WHR-only thing. But the stamp bottom left is a WHR loco, it's to be posted on arrival at Dinas. I don't know about who runs it, but it's clearly used on the WHR, so it should be in the WHR category. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Considering it is FR Co. envelope, it is post marked stamped FR Co. Caernarfon. and the RLS stamp is labelled FR Co. - It is FR related - not WHR related. There is no WHR Letter service! Usage of such classification is stupid. It would seem that someone else had the same idea and you altered it - why - r u intent on annoying the people who are involved in the operation purely for the benefit of making youself look good on this site?? --Keith (talk) 17:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

First off, please be mellow and not insulting. I created the category to begin with (well, I spelt it with 2 Fs as on the wikipedia entry, but it was moved). As for someone else having the same idea - ok, but the person who did so was an IP whose ONLY edit to commons was that, and he provided no rationale for why it should be removed other than "not needed". To me it seems that if the FRLS operates on the WHR as well as the FR, then it should also be in the WHR category. I'm not saying there's a special WHR letter service, otherwise there would be a WHRLS category. I'm saying they're one and the same, and thus it makes no sense to exclude half the service from the categories.

As for your suggestion that my intention is purely to annoy you, please get over yourself. I saw someone do something which I thought was incorrect, thus I reverted it. When they reverted it back, rather than just get into an edit war I left a message on their talk page, explaining myself more fully. I'm not out to annoy anyone, if people choose to interpret my actions that way then so be it, but I'm not going to change what is frankly reasonable behaviour because you think I'm still on some sort of crusade to kill the Ffestiniog by uploading photos of it. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The final comment appeared on mattbuck talk page, reprinted here for completion and before archiving

FR Letter Service

As for the FR Letter Service - your comment "To me it seems that if the FRLS operates on the WHR as well as the FR, then it should also be in the WHR category." indicates you are not aware of the actual situation.

Neither the FRLS, nor the FR itself, operates a Postal service, per se, on either railway. It, FRLS, is a volunteer marketing operation that over the last 40 years, has occasionally designed stamps and covers for the production of souvenir FDC's and special occasion letters in relation to the Festiniog Company operations. These are then sold in the company shops, or through the FRS support organisation.

A similar piece of categorisation stupidity would be to categorise Boston Lodge as part of the Welsh Highland, as any heavy engineering it requires, is carried there. That is the point I was making. --Keith (talk) 18:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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