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"Upload gleicher Name" bug - wahl bitte![edit]

Hallo McZusatz,

Können sie vielleicht für diesen Bug "wahlen"? Das kann man hier machen. Danke! --Slashme (talk) 15:47, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Ich habe mich in die Bugliste eingetragen und einen Kommentar verfasst. Wählen werde ich dann nach der Antwort. --McZusatz (talk) 17:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Ein Patch ist schon hochgeladen, bis der gemerged wird (wenn überhaupt), kann es noch dauern, denke ich. --McZusatz (talk) 18:54, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

License Review[edit]

If you have some time, please try to mark some images in the license review category above. Admin Morning Sunshine has been away since April 5 and I mark mostly flickr images and have my own job too. So, this category has grown, I notice. If not, please ask other active Admins to mark some images in this category with 400+ images. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

PGP-Key[edit]

Hallo McZusatz,
ich bin gerade dabei die PGP-Keys der Wikipedianer zu sammeln. Laut deiner Benutzerseite verfügst du über einen Key, könntest du mir die ID zukommen lassen? Vielen Dank im Voraus. --DaB. (talk) 20:44, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, DaB. Mit welchem Hintergrund sammelst du die Keys und in welcher Form werden diese veröffentlicht? --McZusatz (talk) 12:29, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
de:wp:kurier#WP und PGP -- Rillke(q?) 07:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Could you help me with CNX[edit]

One of the images at Category:CNX you tagged and said it needed the full URL. As it is a book, is there any way I can just cite that such as through: http://cnx.org/content/col11496/latest/ which is the books online page. I can't find and ISBN.CFCF (talk) 18:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

And is there any easy way to edit multiple images at once, it will take hours to go through what I have on an image per image basis opening and closing each one. CFCF (talk) 18:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Got the ISBN: 1-938165-13-5 now just to add it too all of the images in that category?? CFCF (talk) 18:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
There are some things we need to take care of:
  1. properly attribute
  2. (Optional) Link to the module the file can be found (example: http://cnx.org/content/m45985/latest/?collection=col11496/latest )
  3. (Optional) Give a "hotlink" to the jpeg file (ex.: http://cnx.org/content/m45985/latest/102_Organ_Systems_of_Body%28Page1%29.jpg )
The fist task can be done by some script, I think... Let's have a closer look at your uploads... --McZusatz (talk) 18:51, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Do you think you can do the editing by yourself using Help:VisualFileChange.js? Otherwise I need to know when you started to upload the files from "Overview of Anatomy and Physiology" to select them all. --McZusatz (talk) 19:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I'll give it a shot tomorrow when I have time, but this'll make eveything smooth and fast. The help page seems pretty intuitive. Thanks alot for the help! :D CFCF (talk) 19:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Crimea Emblem.gif[edit]

Why here file was removed, but not replaced?--Anatoliy (talk) 00:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

This DR[edit]

If you can, please feel free to state if this image can be kept without COM:OTRS permission. I have no clear views on it, just some doubts whether the flickr owner owns its copyright outright. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:33, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

  • The DR discussion appears to be delete but now there are these other images to consider. Best Wishes, --Leoboudv (talk) 03:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Reversed images[edit]

Hi, saw your edits to File:Glider club Svævethy (8174482839).jpg. That was one of several aircraft images that I have noticed have been uploaded in reversed/flipped form. As with the others, the lettering on the aircraft or background (eg OY-XGF) is visibly reversed. I have tried using IrfanView on several images, but it reports that a perfect transformation cannot be achieved. Anyway, the Cleanup image template does not appear to have an explicit parameter for reversed images, so could you perhaps investigate that to cover this topic better, or should we query that on Commons talk:Media for cleanup ? (watching here) MTIA, PeterWD (talk) 10:23, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Just two quick notes:
  1. Feel free to revert my revert while stating the reason in the edit summary. This will help to identify the cause in future.
  2. We have Category:Images to be flopped back but the category name seems clumsy to me and there is no template connected with this category.
--McZusatz (talk) 10:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

File replacements of seals, ...[edit]

With these replacements, it is worthwhile checking the place/... at Wikidata as they have a property for things like a seal, and it needs to be updated manually. :-/ There is a bugzilla request to somehow display that the link exists on the image, however, at this time, it hasn't exited anyone sufficiently to work out how to fix the beast.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:10, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I never heard of it. Please send me some links and I will add it to the growing list of problems when moving files... --McZusatz (talk) 07:41, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

File tagging File:ZDFcheck-Screenshot.png[edit]

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--> User_talk:Tim_Moritz_Hector_(WMDE)#File_tagging_File:ZDFcheck-Screenshot-1024x760.jpg --McZusatz (talk) 07:51, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Broken(?) video not generating thumbnails[edit]

Namaste, McZusatz.

This file you uploaded is broken: File:Yochai Benkler - On Autonomy, Control and Cultural Experience.ogg

It fails to generate a thumbnail and the servers are throwing error pages when trying to create the image too. The original does not exhibit this behaviour.

edit: the video itself plays just fine however.

What is the difference between the two and, why the need for a dupe? Can't we remove yours, or swap their position so that the old (non-broken one) is the default choice? Regards. Dsprc (talk) 10:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the follow up. The uploads are indeed the same and both fail equally in regards to generating thubmnails. (You should try a 122px thumbnail instead of the cached 120px thumbnail)
Nonetheless I have remapped the streams and everything should now work as expected. --McZusatz (talk) 10:36, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Very cool, thanks. :) These 3 seem to be doing the same thing as well:
These are lower priority as they're not really being used anywhere yet so, no biggie. -- Dsprc (talk) 13:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Those three are supposed to be broken. ;D bugzilla:53863 needs to be fixed first. --McZusatz (talk) 14:03, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

File:Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator SIAD-R rocket sled test video.webm[edit]

Hey there, since there seems to be an issue with transcoding File:Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator SIAD-R rocket sled test video.webm, I went ahead and uploaded File:Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator SIAD-R rocket sled test video.ogv, which appears to be working fine. Since you also uploaded to the webm version, I won't request speedy deletion. If you would delete the webm version, however, I'd appreciate it. Huntster (t @ c) 23:02, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

As of now a direct upload from youtube is not encouraged because VP9 is not yet supported by TimedMediaHandler. Therefore I have uploaded a VP8 transcode created from the h264 version of youtube and I'd propose to keep the WebM version because WebM generally offers better quality than ogv. --McZusatz (talk) 16:14, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
If the original file is now working, then go ahead and kill off the OGV file. I'll not be using WebM again in the future, as it is simply too finicky (and, personally speaking, I see no benefit in quality over OGV). Thanks for your help in all this. Huntster (t @ c) 22:09, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

FN Minimi[edit]

So in ordung?--Sanandros (talk) 11:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Falls der Flickr Nutzer korrekt ist, koennten wir die restlichen Dateien auch hochladen. ( https://www.flickr.com/photos/15725582@N08/ ) --McZusatz (talk) 11:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Photographer Barnstar.png The Photographer's Barnstar
Thank you for your assistance with licensing. Pine 07:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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File:Fertility (5099164476).jpg[edit]

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Jmabel ! talk 05:42, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Vista parcial B. Aparecida do Norte e Caladinho de Baixo, Coronel Fabriciano MG.JPG[edit]

If you had seen that I want the elimination of my own work, why yourself even no sent to nominate for deletion? How much bureaucracy! --HVL talk 01:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

We do not delete images which have no copyright issue at all and are in scope. Especially a speedy-deletion does not apply. --McZusatz (talk) 14:43, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
File:Panorâmica2 de Cel. Fabriciano MG.jpg and File:Panorâmica Morros de Timóteo MG.jpg are derivated of this image, originated on www.fabriciano.mg.gov.br. File:Enchente 20-10-09, B. Giovannini, Coronel Fabriciano MG.JPG is derivated of a video produced by Inter TV dos Vales in 2009 (not available anymore). --HVL talk 02:25, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Next time, please use the {{copyvio|source or reason}} and give an easy to understand reason which can only be interpreted in one way. --McZusatz (talk) 08:24, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
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User:YaCBot[edit]

To make a dead link[1], please stop. 221.20 (talk) 08:58, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't really get the whole point of changing the user's site-wide language to only display the description in another language. For changing the language of the description we have the "Language select-dropdown" (as you can find it on File:Albania - Lin and Ohrid Lake.JPG). And for changing the display language you can use the Link in the upper right section of every page. (Left from your username) --McZusatz (talk) 15:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
There is other way, such as to notify me, it is not a reason that it makes the red link. Please prudent work.221.20 (talk) 15:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
What is your opinion on the two proposals I made (c.f. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Chitose_bus_S022C_0169.JPG&action=history )
In general the already widely used {{information}} template should be used to make it as machine readable as possible. Also the maintenance is easier... --McZusatz (talk) 15:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I've comment out the relevant part as an interim treatment[2]. I will consider based on your comment. might take to understand in English. Thank you. 221.20 (talk) 15:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
If you have trouble understanding my Englisch, I often recommend https://translate.google.de/#auto/ja/ (sometimes the translation is ok). If you are ok with one of my proposals, we should change your template and fix all of the files. I can help you with that, so just let me know. --McZusatz (talk) 15:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

YaCBot removed category (and did it wrong)[edit]

See version history of File:Clouds-10.jpg.

Best regards, --MartinThoma (talk) 13:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I am unable to spot the error, please help me. --McZusatz (talk) 14:57, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
The bot removed Category:Taken with Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ41 (see https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AClouds-10.jpg&diff=129556118&oldid=128939418). But the photograph was taken with that camera. --MartinThoma (talk) 03:20, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Though, it is not visible in the diff, the category is listed twice. The Bot removed the second one. --McZusatz (talk) 05:03, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
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Should the categories be at the very bottom?[edit]

Regarding 128833173: there seems to be a number of files with categories listed at the bottom of the == {{int:filedesc}} == section instead of being at the bottom of the page. I wonder if such pages could be left as they are, because to my mind, it makes even more sense to be able to edit categories as part of the description section? TIA. ⁓ [Gyft Xelz · talk] 19:05, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

If there is nothing to clean up, he also won't touch the categories. Nonetheless, if an edit is done anyway, the categories are grouped at the bottom because it seems to be "consensus" now to place them there. (The file you mentioned above even had them split on two locations which is even more misleading...)
Another observation is that the categories appear at the very bottom in the rendered HTML view, so it actually makes sense to place them in the bottom of the source code as well. And finally considering the broad usage of hotcat, it should not even matter at all. --McZusatz (talk) 20:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Category redirects[edit]

Hi there. I requested the speedies because I think it is more useful to keep the category history in one place rather than splitting it up, especially now that categories can be moved in the same way as other pages. Green Giant (talk) 13:54, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I do not have a strong feeling about this issue, so you are welcome to rollback my edits. --McZusatz (talk) 14:02, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't think I have ever reverted an admins edits, but there is a first time for everything. :) Green Giant (talk) 14:17, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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Report for files uploaded between July 14 and July 23[edit]

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Hi, I just finished my run and found 31 problematic instances. I encountered problems for some of the files. Please have a look at them yourself.

--Flock (talk) 09:00, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

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File:Lossy-page1-800px-ISU-152-2 (initial variant).tif.jpg[edit]

this file comes from enwikipedia.so...you see,can you help me add a suitable permission?I will appreciate it If you do that.--Panzer VI-II (talk) 16:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

The file page on en-wiki does not mention the author (photographer) as far as I can see. We need to find this out first. --McZusatz (talk) 16:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
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File:Israel-Denmark 20140619 061 edit.JPG[edit]

Why on earth did you tag my file? Kw0 (talk) 13:00, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Cropped files with missing exif could be from anywhere. Do you have the full resolution original file? --McZusatz (talk) 13:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I've got the original file and I've never uploaded any copyvio. I bet you check each and every file of your batch uploads from flickr and have written permission sent by e-mail from the photographer. I am saying this because there's always the risk of Flickr washing, as you probably know, and you can never be too careful...
If you had checked, you would have seen that I am an experienced editor (since 2007, as well as autopatrolled) on Commons with over 10,000 productive edits (not some automatic batch tasks) and that this isn't some throwaway account. Kw0 (talk) 14:00, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I have removed the tag. (The OTRS team has enough work anyway and this was clearly a false positive while patrolling the latest files) --McZusatz (talk) 14:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2014-32[edit]

07:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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Question[edit]

Hello! Do we still need Category:DuplicatePNG? --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 22:51, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh, den Abschnitt habe ich bisher uebersehen...
Die Kat habe ich zusammen mit Template:DuplicatePNG erstellt. (Ist nur fuer mich gedacht und sollte demnaechst erledigt sein.) --McZusatz (talk) 08:07, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Kein Problem, ist mir nur im Ordner Duplikate aufgefallen. LG, --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:21, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Erbitte Löschung[edit]

Kannst du bitte File:Taucher.jpg löschen? Es ist so das wenn ich die Datei in die Wikipedia einbinde wird sie mit einem anderen Bild verwecheselt, deshalb lade ich sie jetzt erneut unter einem anderen Namen hoch, nur ich kann die Seite nicht löschen, würdest du das bitte übernehmen? Gruß,--Luke081515 (talk) 23:05, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

✓ Done Als copyvio geloescht. DLRG Wasserzeichen und (c) DLRG Ortsgruppe Minden sichtbar. LG, --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 00:32, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Die Datei wurde von einer lokalen taucher.jpg auf de-wiki verdeckt. --McZusatz (talk) 08:03, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Aha, die Taucher Datei hier war ne (c)vio. Diese Taucher sind klasse. Schaust Du bitte mal einen Abschnitt weiter oben? :) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 03:24, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
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languages to be added for subtitles list[edit]

Hi,

At File:Marathi Wikipedia ULS.webm I would like to get subtitles added for more dialects of Marathi language namely :

  • knn - कोंकणी
  • vah - वऱ्हाडी
  • smv - कादोडी
  • ahr - अहिराणी
  • khn - खानदेशी

The above languages are having Ethnologue and ISO codes but are not included in dropdown list for subtitles.

  • Besides we prefer to have कोल्लापुरी and बेळगावी dialects (कोल्लापुरी and बेळगावी does not have iso codes) of Marathi added to the list. It would be ok to write mr- मराठी (कोल्लापुरी) and mr- मराठी (बेळगांवी) as additional options to standard Marathi language code until these dialects get separate iso codes.

I do not know which is the right place to make the request for this on commons so requesting you for your kind help and support in this respect.

Rgds Mahitgar (talk) 15:34, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I assume this needs a change in TMH. You can submit a bug report to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=TimedMediaHandler --McZusatz (talk) 09:49, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

YaCBot[edit]

Der Bot macht tolle Wartungsarbeit, vielen Dank dafür nochmals. Hast Du mal über Klone nachgedacht die von Hinten oder bei Buchstabengruppen ab G bzw P anfangen um die aufgestauten Arbeiten schneller erldigen zu können? Der Hauptbot wühlt sich gerade erst durch C. Um mal an die Zukunft zu denken: Wäre schön wenn man den Bot bzw seine Funktionen irgendwie auf Labs realisieren könnte und den dort mit ggf mehreren Maintainern als generellen Wartungsbot für Commons zur Verfügung hätte. --Denniss (talk) 06:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Ja, bis der einmal durch ist, dauert es noch Monate (oder Jahre?). Anstatt mehrere Bots laufen zu lassen koennte ich auch die Edit-rate erhoehen. (An die 5 sekunden regel hat sich Commons:Bots/Requests/SchlurcherBot auch nicht gehalten...)
Zur Zeit kompiliere ich den Bot in ein .jar und benutze Labs nur als host. In welcher Form kann ich die Funktion des Bots als generellen Wartungsbot bereitstellen? Webinterface? --McZusatz (talk) 10:01, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Wenn Du den code bereitstellst, wuerde ich einen Bot parallel laufen lassen. Ich habe hier noch einen Laptop auf dem zur Zeit nur BOINC laeuft. Ich wollte den eh auf Linux umstellen. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 10:58, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
@Hedwig in Washington: Gerne, kannst du dann wie oben gewuenscht bei 'P' anfangen? Bitte benutze die Version vom 14. August (Findest du, wenn du den Namen des Bots bei google eintippst). Kompilieren musst du selbst, aber lass mich wissen wenn es Probleme gibt. --McZusatz (talk) 19:37, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Ja wo laufen sie denn? :) Hast Du den bot nur auf dem Toolserver? Da komme ich nicht ran. Google gibt mir nur blogs und Zeugs. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 21:28, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Fotos, die gelöscht wurden obwohl ich das Copyright besitze[edit]

Da du Admin bist, könntest du bitte die folgenden vier Fotos wiederherstellen? Hier:

Die Fotos sind Fotos über ein Dokument zum Bootshaus der DLRG OG Minden, ich erstelle auf https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Luke081515/Baustellen/DLRG-Minden#Das_.22Hexenhaus.22_.28Altes_Bootshaus.29_1968_bis_1987 momentan einen Artiekl dazu, und brauche dafür die Fotos. Die Fotos habe ich selber mit einer Handykamera gemacht, und die Erlaubnis wurde mir vom Zuständigen erteilt. Leider sind die Fotots trotzdem gelöscht worden. Kannst du die wiederherstellen? Ich brauche sie umbedingt für den Artikel. Vielen Dank, --Luke081515 (talk) 13:46, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Nein, du kannst keine Nutzungsrechte erhalten, indem du Fotos von Fotos machst. Der Urheber ist und bleibt der urspruengliche Fotograf. Sorry, aber ohne dass der Urheber oder Rechteinhaber eine schriftliche Freigabe an com:OTRS schickt, geht hier nichts. --McZusatz (talk) 18:02, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Gut, danke für den Hinweis. --Luke081515 (talk) 23:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Report for files uploaded between August 01 and August 10[edit]

[deleteFraction = 0.04899315483262684; IOExceptions: 0 (Fraction: 0.0);]

Hi, I just finished my run and found 11 problematic instances. I was unsure about some of the files and it is up to you to have a look at them.

--Flock (talk) 09:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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May I?[edit]

Sure, if the original is deleted than my closing of the cropped image becomes invalid and should be reconsidered. :). However, I wish that his statement regarding the crop was as clear as his statement in the DR of the original file. Natuur12 (talk) 22:04, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2014-34[edit]

07:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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Report for files uploaded between August 03 and August 12[edit]

[deleteFraction = 0.06713736714637417; IOExceptions: 0 (Fraction: 0.0);]

Hi, I just finished my run and found 43 problematic instances. I was unsure about 3 of the files and it is up to you to have a look at them.

--Flock (talk) 11:54, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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