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Commons Photo Challenge January 2014[edit]

Picture of the Year 2013 R1 Announcement[edit]

Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open![edit]

2012 Picture of the Year: A pair of European Bee-eaters in Ariège, France.

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Closure of the review of precautionary principle RfC[edit]

Hi Michael — this is just to officially (ie. on-wiki) inform you that on Saturday, I closed the review of precautionary principle RfC that you started on April 9. Please take the time to familiarize yourself with the reasoning behind my closure — as always, comments are more than welcome :-) Thanks :-) odder (talk) 15:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

On that subject, Michael, would you mind implementing the policy changes that the outcome of the RfC implies? I've been asked to do that, but I think the action will carry more weight if it were done by you, who started the RfC in the first place. Thanks a lot, odder (talk) 12:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
See this too. :) Jee 12:31, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
@Odder:@Jkadavoor:@LGA:@Yann: Thanks for the messages and emails. I'm afraid my unavoidable absence from Commons for the last few weeks came at rather a bad time, as it seems both from the Wiki postings and the increasingly ill-tempered [Wikimedia-l] debates that you could have done with a few more mellow contributors over that period. I'd be more than happy to sweep things up, as you've suggested, but as as I'm out all day tomorrow the earliest I'll be able to get to it will be Thursday. It is likely to take a few hours work, as I'd like to take the time to add some hopefully useful comments and not just change things without explanation. I don't expect Commons will totally fall apart due to another day's delay. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Bleah. Flashing lights and migraine. Unable to think straight at the moment, but hope to be able to follow up more reasonably tomorrow. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Take time; and care your health. When back, read Erik's comment too. Jee 12:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


Michael—I took the liberty to simplify your addition to the licensing policy. After your change, the policy basically said URAA cannot be used as the sole reason for deletion in one sentence, and then URAA can be used as the sole reason for deletion in the next one, and that looked pretty bad. Please do feel free to reword that further if need be :-) Thanks, odder (talk) 10:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

I was trying to do it without touching the previous text too much, but your simplification is better. Thanks. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:30, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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Learning patterns[edit]

Michael, I've just gone through your excellent "Improving your building photography". This is just what is needed to enable project managers (and individual contributors) to improve their pics. It should have a large footprint in the movement, considering how much we fund photography-related project work. Thank you indeed.

I've made quite a few minor changes, so would you mind checking through them some time? (Revert anything you don't like.) In brief, I enlarged the pics to 240px, used more contractions for a friendly tone, added a little here and there (I know zip about photography, so that was reckless), and recast the boxed summary—in a similar way to my suggestion here, which Jessie Wild liked. I also tweaked a few things that might risk mistranslation ("decent" -> "good", for example).

It might defeat your purpose if you went into further details in this nicely short, beginner-pitched piece; I noticed these "rules" of composition, and wonder whether you might consider writing another learning patterns that goes into those rules. That is, if you agree with them. :-)

Thanks again. Contact Tony (talk) 11:10, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

@Tony1: Many thanks Tony. All your edits look good to me. On the question of doing a more advanced learning pattern, that's not out of the question but I wonder how useful going beyond beginner comments would really be? Once we start getting into more advanced stuff, there are huge online and printed resources already available for those who are interested in photography, and people who are will I imagine have already seen some of those. Where there's perhaps a need is to encourage those who know very little to take the next steps. I wrote the hints initially for last year's UK Wiki Loves Monuments contest, and I don't really know how much the community knows about or looks at the Learning Patterns pages. Do you have any idea? --MichaelMaggs (talk) 12:34, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Michael, sorry for the lag in replying: I was away with poor connectivity last week. I think this is an important juncture in the way we evaluate PEG grants, and ultimately for how we shape the culture of designing and conducting WMF-funded programs. I'm a regular reviewer of PEG applications, and participated in the most recent video hook-up with Learning and Evaluation on the topic of PEG. I don't think anyone at that meeting objected to the notion that there's an impending challenge in coming to grips with encouraging quality outcomes—and not just the quantity-based predicted measures of success and vaguely expressed wishes that have until now been the dominant fare. Quality is hard: it brushes on the subjective, and it's typically multidimensional and complex. It's one thing to predict that x number of images will make it as Commons featured or valued pics, thus outsourcing the judgements; but it's another thing to intervene early in the process to give volunteers the means to skill up. This is why the WMF's learning patterns are, as I see it, a critical improvement in infrastructure—one that will give volunteer program-makers the ability to achieve greater quality. My feeling is that people would love online training resources for the greater personal satisfaction it would bring them as contributors. I need help myself on many matters!

I've thus far mentioned a learning pattern only once in reviewing an application; the applicant followed the link (to your piece) and was enthusiastic. How, he wondered, will we get it translated into Romanian, for his community of volunteer photographers? :-)

So I'm cautiously optimistic that we can build a large and rich suite of resources to skill up our project participants, and we've only just started referring people to them. I intend to send a note to the manager of Learning and Evaluation asking whether we might develop a strategy for building the learning patterns. Depending on what she says, I might return to you with ideas.

Warm regards. Tony (talk) 04:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Tony. It's really interesting to get to know how these things are used by the community in practice. I was speaking to Anasuya about learning patterns over dinner on Tuesday at Wikimania, and it does seem there is great potential for them to be used as a way of pushing up quality generally. I'd be happy to help in any way I can. MichaelMaggs (talk) 06:18, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Michael, I've mentioned you here and linked back to this thread. Tony (talk) 01:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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