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Fred the Oyster (talk) 01:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

File tagging File:Hiawatha Light Rail 46th Street Station opening.jpg[edit]

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File tagging File:Hiawatha Light Rail Midtown Station opening 3.jpg[edit]

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File tagging File:Hiawatha Light Rail Midtown Station opening 2.jpg[edit]

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File tagging File:Hiawatha Light Rail Midtown Station opening 1.jpg[edit]

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Magog, I have no way to confirm permission on these: the website they are attributed to appears to be offline now. If you have to delete them, just delete them: I don't think there is anything I can do. Michael Barera (talk) 02:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:Kenya Romania Locator.png[edit]

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File for deletion[edit]

Please see Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Kamca13. - dcljr (talk) 23:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


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You appear to have moved the file to Commons from Wikipedia. Stefan4 (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Swimwear categories[edit]

Hello!

Can you please help to categorize the following images: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. You are experienced with swimwear categories, so it would be great to receive some support. Thank you! Greetings, High Contrast (talk) 00:10, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

It looks like it has already been taken care of. Cheers! Michael Barera (talk) 20:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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Fry1989 eh? 00:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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Fry1989 eh? 00:27, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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File tagging File:Order of the Netherlands Lion Knight Miniature.gif[edit]

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File tagging File:Order of the Netherlands Lion Grand Cross Star.gif[edit]

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File tagging File:Order of the Netherlands Lion Female Knight.gif[edit]

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File tagging File:Order of the Netherlands Lion Commander.gif[edit]

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File tagging File:Order of the Netherlands Lion Commander Star.gif[edit]

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File tagging File:Order of the Netherlands Lion Commander Miniature.gif[edit]

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Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:50, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Magog, I did the best I could: there isn't any evidence of permission, so if you have to delete them go ahead and delete them. Michael Barera (talk) 00:52, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A gadget hint[edit]

Hi, thanks for your checks of old images. ou might consider using the gadget "Quick delete" within here. Then your tagged images will directly go to the correct day category and not i.e. Category:Media without a license as of unknown date and the uploader will be informed automaticly too. Cheers. --JuTa 12:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the tip JuTa. I was wondering how to do that! Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated! Michael Barera (talk) 16:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
JuTa, I've had the gadget engaged for a couple days now, and I love it! Sorry also for causing folks like you more work before you informed me of a better way... Take care! Michael Barera (talk) 18:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
You are very welcome :) --JuTa 19:31, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Deletion[edit]

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Fair enough, Magog: delete if you must. Michael Barera (talk) 19:41, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Boston streetcar 2001.jpg: the redux[edit]

Last September, I asked if you happened to remember the location of this photograph. Well, I finally figured it out. It's on Huntington Avenue, where the Northeastern stop is now. (It was under construction in 2001, hence the pile of gravel in the foreground). (Google Maps link)

Kudos go to the fine railfans at Railroad.net who helped solve the mystery in this thread.

Cheers! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Wow, you and the railfans at Railroad.net are amazing! This is why I love Wikipedia: an 11 year old kid can take a picture of something he can't even identify, upload it (albeit years later), and have knowledgeable people like yourself identify it and turn it from something with trivial importance into something potentially very useful. I never cease to be amazed by what all of us can do together!
Michael Barera (talk) 20:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
PS: I just got back from a trip to Germany and am in the middle of uploading a bunch of photographs that I took, a good number of which are locomotives, rolling stock, and trainsets (mostly Deutsche Bahn and various U-Bahns and S-Bahns) that I can't identify apart from their operator. If you're curious, you can check it out here. Take care!

Update of HIV/AIDS[edit]

Recently did a major update of HIV/AIDS. Wondering if you could update the spoken version? James Heilman, MD (talk) 00:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I did it as part of a group project with the Michigan Wikipedians, so I'll check with them and see if there is group consensus to re-record it. Thanks for all the work on the major update! Take care! Michael Barera (talk) 17:11, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

File tagging File:Water Droplet.jpg[edit]

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File tagging File:Late 50s Aggie Bonfire.jpg[edit]

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Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:54, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I've done what I can, Magog. There is not any proof of permission other than the statement on the original image, which I have copied to Commons along with the image and placed under the "permission" field of the Information template. Michael Barera (talk) 01:09, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Category:Women wearing bikini tops with skirts[edit]

Should have been "Category:Women wearing bikini tops AND skirts"... AnonMoos (talk) 15:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Category:Skirted bikinis[edit]

The merger of this category is rather unfortunate, since there are "skirted bikinis" (such as the black-and-white striped number in File:Mud Fest 2008.jpg) which it is difficult to describe as "skirts" in any meaningful sense. Furthermore, women wearing skirted bikini bottoms might not always be wearing bikini tops... AnonMoos (talk) 15:47, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. If you think it best, go ahead and change it back. Michael Barera (talk) 18:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Also, can you think of a parallel way to name the "jeans" and "shorts" categories if you decide to go back to "skirted bikinis"? I don't think "shorted" would work. Please go ahead and change the category names to whatever you think appropriate (don't feel obligated to contact me again before changing them), but if you can think of a way to reinforce the fact that the three categories are parallel with each other (and reflect that in the category names) that would be great. Thanks and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 18:50, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Bikini bottoms like shorts are known as "boy shorts" or "hotpants". Don't feel like going through a lot of files right now, so it may take some time if left up to me. AnonMoos (talk) 19:04, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
What about "Bikinis with skirts", "Bikinis with shorts", and "Bikinis with jeans"? Shorter, simpler, and (maybe) more clear? Michael Barera (talk) 19:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the preposition "with" can have multiple interpretations in some contexts. When I first encountered "Category:Women wearing bikini tops with skirts", I thought it might mean that the skirts were attached to the tops. In any case, some examples of skirted bikini bottoms are still not really skirts as such... AnonMoos (talk) 23:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I see your point. Do you think there is a compromise solution? Perhaps "skirted bikinis" for skirts that are the same material/pattern/color as the tops, and then "women wearing bikini tops with skirts" for skirts that are clearly different from the swimsuit. I think that could work: what do you think about that idea? Michael Barera (talk) 01:05, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Regarding the second, it should be "Category:Women wearing bikini tops AND skirts", as stated above... AnonMoos (talk) 15:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I think I have the solution: Category:Skirted bikinis and Category:Women wearing bikini tops and skirts. What do you think? Michael Barera (talk) 05:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

File tagging File:Jaqueline Carvalho.jpg[edit]

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MGA73 (talk) 06:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. The photo you transferred to Commons seems to come from http://www.nickvanderleek.com/2012/08/jaqueline-carvalho-brazils-beautiful.html so I think we should ask original uploader for a permission. I did that on en-wiki. --MGA73 (talk) 06:44, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Good catch: I missed that. Thank you and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 03:36, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Zilkens Rudolf Signatur.jpg[edit]

Hi, I don't understand the problem in this case. So maybe you can help me: I scanned the signature from the book (see soure) and there is no copyright on signatures, as I know, or? Best regards Guslar (talk) 07:56, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion: I was categorizing uncategorized images last night and noticed that it did not have a license, so I tagged it as such. In the meantime, LX has properly tagged it is Public Domain-ineligible, so it is now no longer an issue and you don't have to worry about it being deleted. Sorry for the confusion: I was unaware about copyright law as pertains to signatures, so I'm glad LX straightened it out. Again, sorry for the hassle and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 15:51, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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another favor[edit]

Hi Michael

as you know I have that fancy-schmnacy presentation to give to the Ford staff next week. I was hoping you could do me favor - I'd like to show them a photo file with some of the templates inserted properly , and I usually make a mess of things!

We have, thanks to you, a Library institution tag

Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library Link back to Institution infobox template wikidata:Q3026274
Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library, spring..jpg
Native name Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
Parent institution National Archives and Records Administration
Location Ann Arbor, Michigan
Coordinates 42° 17′ 16.12″ N, 83° 42′ 45.06″ W Link to OpenStreetMap  Link to Google Maps
Established
Website www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov

, and a cooperation tag

Official logo of the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.svg This file was provided to Wikimedia Commons by the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum as part of a cooperation project. The Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum is part of the National Archives and Records Administration's presidential library and houses documents and audio-visual materials on the life, career, and presidency of Gerald Ford, the 38th President of the United States.

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. User:Smallman12q was messing around and made this (not a template yet, just code he said)

Official logo of the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.svg This media is available in the holdings of the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.

The media is available online at: Collection Finding Aid · DirectPDF (1.4 MB)

  • Record group: Gerald R. Ford Vice Presidential Papers, 1973-74
  • Series: John Marsh File of Vice Presidential Meetings with Foreign and Diplomatic Officials
  • Box 65

This tag does not indicate the copyright status of the attached work. A normal copyright tag is still required. See Commons:Licensing for more information.

this goes into the summary area, NARA has theirs in the Record ID cell - could you insert as well? these three things need to go into File:Vice President and Romanian President Ceausescu (Background material only) (Gerald Ford Library) (002301000) .pdf. As you can see I was only partly successful!

We are creating a finalized layout idea see User:Bdcousineau/Sandbox2 for the collections of documents and will need you to weigh in on the categories soon.

I don't need this till Wednesday. If you don't have time let me know I'll try to see if I can do it. The PEP is under discussion right now. Thanks and have a great weekend. Bdcousineau (talk) 18:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this is starting to look really good! I love Smallman12q's template (although it is just code right now): the only thing I just noticed is that the image in question (File:Vice President and Romanian President Ceausescu (Background material only) (Gerald Ford Library) (002301000) .pdf) uses a separate "NARA-image-full" template that I didn't realize existed until right now (it is essentially a more detailed version of the standard "Information" template that has some useful extra fields, like "Record ID" and "Record ID"). I believe that all the images you have uploaded have the "Information" template, so switching to this model with Smallman12q's ID template (the third one, the one that's just code right now) would take some work to do. Maybe we can get a bot to do it if we need to. Just one quick point on the PDFs that are coming (it appears that only the Ceausescu document is currently up): according to your sandbox, they all begin with "Vice President": while it is obvious who this is at the Library/Museum, it is potentially confusing in the "open" Wikiverse, and I would recommend to changing this to "Vice President Ford" so that the names are more clear. Also, if they are all PDF files (as they appear to be), the appropriate "mainspace" category will be Category:PDF files in English and then the "hidden category" should probably be some subset of the "documents" category. Once you get a healthy number of new uploads up, let me know and I'll go through and take care of the categories: it is what I do best on Commons! Thanks for the heads-up and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 00:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Ah, the reason I can't change the location in the "NARA-image-full" template is because it is locked in to NARA! (Which does make sense.) This means we will either have to 1) just use the standard "Information" template (which doesn't have the "location" or "record ID" parameters) or 2) create a separate Ford Library/Museum template based on the NARA one that "locks in" to the Library/Museum (or perhaps keeps this an open parameter). The second option is probably the best and most elegant for the long term, but it will require a bit more work now. Considering what Smallman12q has been able to do so far (and what I should be able to do), it shouldn't be a big problem. Michael Barera (talk) 00:27, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
hiya! Can you alert smallman12q about the titling issue you bring up? Adding Ford to Vice President He is about to start a a batch upload. Your point is very true! I'm on my iPad and its hard to type- too much auto correct- just got the iPad , can you turn off auto correct ? Anyhow
yes, the idea is to replace theNARA template with something lovely that you smart guys create. Check my page for the latest between me and smallman12aq.
When I was monkeying around with the file, I couldn't get it to do what I wanted so its a mish-mash of NARA information and mine. I'd like to see only Ford Library information,and none of NARa,s
categorize however you see fit, we can work on it together later, after upload?
also, yes, there is a difference in the templating between the artifacts and the documents. The artifact just need that general standard informatinn template your option # 1 like they currently have- user:jameslwoodward inserted those for me. The documents, that smallman12q is uploading need that more detailed template that he coded -option#2 you mention above. Hope that makes sense.
lots of discussion about the PEP today. Will know more soon.
thanks So so much! Bdcousineau (talk) 01:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Cool, I've already let Smallman12q know about the naming issue. It still may make more sense to use one template for all the Ford uploads (especially if one is being created specifically for the Ford), but maybe that's just me having a standardization fantasy! Anyways, thanks for everything you're doing and have a great weekend! Michael Barera (talk) 04:45, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm.... I usually fantasize about cake!  ;)) --my smile with an extra chin from too much cake Bdcousineau (talk) 01:58, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Filemover note[edit]

Heya Michael, here is a poke regarding filemover. Cheers mate, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I've already applied! Can't wait for the decision... Michael Barera (talk) 04:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


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Thanks, INeverCry! And sorry about the cat-a-lot confusion that I seemed to have caused: I didn't realize there could be negative consequences of doing all those edits in one sitting. I just figured what I get done now doesn't have to be done later. Take care! Michael Barera (talk) 14:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
No need to apologize, since you didn't do anything wrong that I can see. It looks like you were doing good work to me. Keep it up. Also, the numbers are fine as long as the edits are constructive and conform to Commons policies, which seems to be the case with the edits mentioned at the RFR. INeverCry 18:34, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

cat help[edit]

hi

User:Smallman12q has parsed a file Commons:Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum/Sources2 and I had him add Gerald Ford Papers - to each file name where there was no indication of what the file was. From a cat-ing perspective, how do think this will work? or do you have another suggestion?

These files will have next to nothing in the description. Most of the the info is in the title, and on the category page -- see User:Bdcousineau/Sandbox2 for layout. Each group of documents will have some kind of textual intro and then the files will be selectable from a table. Each file will have <linktext>(<scanid>)(Gerald Ford Library).pdf as a title.

Does adding Gerald Ford Papers - to each file name seem like a good solution? if you reply on my page User:Smallman12q will see it too. Bdcousineau (talk) 19:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

wiki help in Cali[edit]

hey -

how do I connect with the wikimedia community at UC Riverside in CA? I did a quick search came up with nothing. There is a NARA person there just embarking on her wikimedia adventure, and I'm trying to help her out. Thanks Bdcousineau (talk) 18:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, there doesn't seem to be any real Wikimedia clubs at the university or even in the area like there are in Michigan, but here are a few places to look. First of all: Category:Wikipedians in Riverside, California (which will probably be your best bet, but there are only two members of the category). You can also check out Category:Inland Empire task force participants, which is both less specific and has no guarantee the members will be in the area, but it gives you 10 different users. Lastly, you could always try the nearest meetup (which is kind of like the level down from a club: Ann Arbor has a meetup, for instance, but it isn't very active). The closest one to Riverside is in Los Angeles (Wikipedia:Meetup/LA). I know that these aren't the best pickings, but it is the best I could find here on Wikipedia. If he or she is looking specifically at UC Riverside, I would suggest trying to send out a listserv e-mail or putting up flyers around campus. I hope this helps. Michael Barera (talk) 00:26, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
that's great, a few levels down from what I had tried. I will pass it on. The first other NARA agency to ask for our help! Go team! Bdcousineau (talk) 18:49, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Awesome! Good luck to them! Michael Barera (talk) 04:29, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

some Ford cats[edit]

We have two nice new cats uploaded to the COM:GFPLM page... and I've thought up some sub-cats for those - let me know if this is helpful or neutral.

Category:Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum series: Ford-Carter Debates File Presidential Debates 1976, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Briefing Materials Presidential Debates, Briefing Book, White House Special Files, Gerald Ford Papers, Briefing Materials

Category:Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum series: Issue Decision Papers for the President White House Special Files, Gerald Ford Papers, Army Corps of Engineers 1974-1977, Issue Decision Papers for the President, New York City 1974-1977, Panama Canal Treaty, Nuclear Policy 1974-1977, Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme

shall I keep thinking of these sub-cats and forwarding them to you as we get the main cat pages pulled together? Bdcousineau (talk) 18:12, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Those sub-cats look good, but my only suggestion is to make sure that only the proper documents are categorized in the relevant categories: for instance, not all of the "Issue Decision" files should be under "Panama Canal Treaty", but some of them should. I think the most vital category for all of these documents in "PDF files in English" (which I have already added) because that is what they are at the most basic level (PDF files are relative rare on Commons, and this category is also conveniently a subcategory of "Documents in English"). From here, I think we can add other relevant categories to each individual file on an as-needed basis. Michael Barera (talk) 23:33, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh wait, I think I just realized you're talking about sub-"hidden" categories! Yeah, that would make more sense! Still, what I said about being careful that documents are put into the right subcategories still holds. Take care! Michael Barera (talk) 23:35, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

yes, thank you, point well made. I don't know how to do sub-"hidden" categories, but will figure it out, or ask for help. Right now I'm uploading more artifact images. One by one by one... urgh!! I will try to get to the sub-"hidden" categories next week. I have some regular office-y things to do Thurs/Fri. Bdcousineau (talk) 17:18, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Presidential Speeches[edit]

Michael -

I remembered this site - Presidential Speeches - and was thinking ahead to your idea of a PORTAL, was wondering if the Ford speeches from this site could go into wiki-source, and then into a portal or our project? I noticed the Obama Portal had many transcribed speeches (and then I found a whole bunch of other presidential ones too). Thoughts? Bdcousineau (talk) 18:22, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, the speeches themselves (priamry sources) will go to Wikisource: Wikipedia can host encyclopedic articles (tertiary sources) about the speeches, but it isn't a place for the speeches themselves. Uploading speeches to Wikisource is a good short-term goal, and then linking them to Wikipedia articles about them would probably be a long-term goal. It will take a lot of writing to get Barack Obama-quality articles on Ford's speeches, and I'm not sure how much enthusiasm there will be for such a project among Wikipedians at large. Further down the road I think this will look like a better plan, but for not I think the marginal costs are too high and the marginal benefits too low: we should focus on adding the photographs and museum/physical object collection images to existing Wikipedia articles and then create new articles around these images. Then, when we start on the speeches, let's pick a few of the most important, maybe three or four. We may run into issues establishing notability, however. As you can probably tell, I'm spinning my wheels a bit on this one because it is something I'm not experienced with. It is an intriguing idea, but I don't think it is the best use of our time at the present moment. Michael Barera (talk) 19:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree that this is a path for the future. I mainly mentioned it so I wouldn't forget that the website exists, so we are like minded. Do love the idea of creating a portal, tho. Again for the near term, after we run out of things to upload. Which we may. I was slapped today by someone high up in DC about exactly what to upload. The bulk of the photo collection, while it may be digitized, it has not been entered into the NARA database - I was informed that only things in the NARA database are ok to upload. that changes my plan with Smallman12q yet again, I fear he may run out of patience - I almost am! I kind of feel like the NARA wikipedian could have given me a little/ some/ANY guidance as I got started so as not to jerk all of you around!

I have to ponder and gently test to see if I can upload non-database items without drama; some of the Library staff will not want to go against the DC people. Some think open access means just that. I have a meeting with the Library staff again next week, and will see what that brings.

speaking of drama, the NARA Wikipedian quit - it sounds like he's making a play for more money. They will either re-hire him or someone else. .when I see the job posting, I send it along to your group.

Have a nice weekend. Bdcousineau (talk) 03:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the new information and all your hard work on this project. I really admire you for being bold and sticking with it despite all the obstacles. Enjoy your weekend, too! Michael Barera (talk) 00:17, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

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James086Talk | Email 18:40, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

A favour re Ford archive[edit]

Firstly congratulations to all those who participated in the donations from the Ford library, great effort. From a Wikisource perspective, it would be fantastic if any multiple page works are added using the {{book}} template. Apart from generally being a better template for works like these, it also enables Wikisource to capture the metadata in that template, and import it into our Index: ns pages. Thanks if that can be done. #160;— billinghurst sDrewth 09:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, Wikisource practice is all new to me: do you mean use the {{book}} template instead of the {{information}} template for all the document files? Michael Barera (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for your input, we are just starting this project. I'll make sure my bot author reads this so we can improve our uploads. So excited that you are watching! Bdcousineau (talk) 16:45, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

know any Texans?[edit]

a NARA unit in Texas wants some wikipedia help...know anyone at UT-Austin? There doesn't seem to be an Ambassadors group...I'll try to do a search if you come up blank. Hope all is well, and that we connect soon, at the Ford Library. Bdcousineau (talk) 04:17, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

You're in luck, these categories are big! Check out the Wikipedians by alma mater: University of Texas at Austin and Wikipedians in Austin, Texas categories on Wikipedia. Also, if you ever need to look for specifically-located Wikipedians, check out the parent categories: Wikipedians by alma mater: United States and Wikipedians in the United States. By searching through these categories, you can find Wikipedians in almost any city or university in the US, as long as it is large enough to have created a template! (If you check out my userboxes page, you can see I can be found under both the University of Michigan and Ann Arbor categories.) Hope that this helps! Michael Barera (talk) 15:00, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I actually found a wikiProject UT-Austin, to with a bunch of users listed. You posted a great resource, tho, for when I convince the remaining 11 Presidential Libraries to get with the program.

Can you go look at my user page - I set up a sandbox with a task...please let me know if it's doable. Bdcousineau (talk) 16:49, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Wait, which sandbox and what task? I'm confused...can you give me the link or the page name? Thanks. Michael Barera (talk) 22:37, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Probably referring to User_talk:Bdcousineau#User:Bdcousineau.2FSandbox5.Smallman12q (talk) 13:00, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Ford Museum categories[edit]

Hi There's a lot of new material at Category:Documents at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum that needs categories if you are interested. Is it possible to batch categorize it? Once we get a handle on it, I'll let the users at the WikiPoject History know it's there to use.

I'm thinking that each file in a series gets a similar cats to start, and that each series gets its own cat. But you tell me what makes sense so I can explain it to the Librarians.

If you don't have time/interest, let me know. Thanks so much Bdcousineau (talk) 23:52, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Alright, it might take me a couple of days to get into it, but I can definitely do it. They're all PDF files, right? Michael Barera (talk) 02:19, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes they are. Thanks! Looking forward to seeing what happens. If you need to off-load tasks to me, let me know. Bdcousineau (talk) 11:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Commons:Batch uploading/UMich[edit]

I'd like to do batch upload for Commons:Batch uploading/UMich, but the images all seem to have a UMich logo. Seeing that you go to UMich, could you contact the Kellogg Eye Center and request logo-free images? I've also left a note at w:User_talk:Jmh649#commons:Commons:Batch_uploading.2FUMich. Hope you get your internship at NARA. Cheers!Smallman12q (talk) 01:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

That sounds good, Smallman12q. They do have an e-mail address for queries that I think would be appropriate (and I can send an e-mail from my umich.edu account and mention that I am a member of the Michigan Wikipedians, which sounds like it may be beneficial). But before I do that, can you give me a little bit more information: what are the images you are trying to upload, what is their copyright/license status, is there a partnership that we are trying to develop with Kellogg, and what exactly needs to be removed from the images? I don't think I should e-mail them until I'm clear about what exactly you need: our club meeting is tomorrow night, so I'll certainly bring this up with my fellow Michigan Wikipedians as well. Thanks and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 02:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Their site, The Eyes Have It, contains a number of illustrations and videos which are licensed as "Except where otherwise noted, content on this site is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. " This license is at the bottom of the pages. The site covers various aspects of eyes including anatomy, examination, and trauma which would be used to illustrate related eye topics. There are a lot of images (probably 500+) and around 30 videos. The images are on the pages linked from the instructional index such as floaters. You can see one of the indexes of images here. Many of the images have a faded M logo w/ University of Michigan / Kellogg Eye Center on them. I'm looking for a logo-free version of the images, provided in a zip or whatever format...they may also have them in higher-resolution versions. For the videos, see if they have higher-quality versions. (These are eye images...so hope you're not queasy type.) Thanks.Smallman12q (talk) 03:19, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done Michael Barera (talk) 03:14, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
As the contactus email didn't work, could also send a copy to Jonathan D. Trobe, he's listed in the credits as the main "Author, content expert." Thanks again!Smallman12q (talk) 12:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Great work. Let me know when these are all uploaded and I will work on integrating them into Wikipedia. James Heilman, MD (talk) 21:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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-Any progress?Smallman12q (talk) 23:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

No, sorry, I still haven't heard anything. I promise that you'll be the first to know if and when I do get a response. Michael Barera (talk) 00:39, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Category Barnstar Hires.png The Categorization Barnstar
For your extensive work categorizing NARA images. INeverCry 20:11, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Hey, thanks INeverCry! That means a lot to me! Michael Barera (talk) 20:12, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake for you![edit]

Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg here's a cupcake to go with your Barnstar Bdcousineau (talk) 17:19, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, Bdcousineau! I really appreciate your thoughtfulness! Michael Barera (talk) 18:02, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates voting[edit]

Hi!

Please don't use for voting templates GA candidate.svg Weak support and BA candidate.svg Weak oppose. The bot can not count them properly. Use instead Weak Symbol support vote.svg Support or Weak Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. Regards, --Ivar (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, OK, let me fix that... Michael Barera (talk) 20:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Hey thanks, you beat me to it! Michael Barera (talk) 20:24, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ford/Fromme article[edit]

If you had a hand in this, thank you! Great hook, and so helpful to the project. Also, check my page if you haven't already, Uzma Gamal has quite the vision for the contact sheets. Smallman12q will upload them next week. Bdcousineau (talk) 03:20, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

No, I didn't have a hand in it: Uzma Gamal had it all formated and nominated already before I even thought about DYK! Also, the vision for the contact sheets is quite interesting, although I do have my doubts about how valuable they'll really be on Commons and in the various Wikipedia projects. I don't want to stop the progress of the project, though. Michael Barera (talk) 20:03, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, well, we'll talk soon in any case. Bdcousineau (talk) 01:52, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Village Pump[edit]

You can go to the Village Pump to see any discussions about the contact sheet upload. Bdcousineau (talk) 01:30, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

That looks great: I'm very curious to see what the community thinks! Michael Barera (talk) 02:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Fromme DYK - tweets[edit]

my page has stats. Bdcousineau (talk) 00:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar[edit]

Much appreciated. JustSomePics (talk) 16:13, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome: it is well deserved! Take care! Michael Barera (talk) 01:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Ford contact sheets[edit]

hi there! the contact sheets will be uploaded sometime next week, and ready at that point for you to categorize. I'll keep in touch about it. Thanks. Bdcousineau (talk) 21:06, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

That sounds great: as long as we have those ID numbers that the first one had, it should be easy! Michael Barera (talk) 21:26, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

hey, you, WiR![edit]

yes, the PEP thing is a go!

more importantly, Smallman12q posted a sample of the contact sheet tables - can you take a look, since you'll be categorizing them. On my user page, topic DB retrieval at the very bottom. Thanks. Bdcousineau (talk) 19:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Sounds great, and Smallman12q's work on the tables looks good. I've been thinking about categorizing them, and I think it would be more useful to subcategorize them either by 1) year or 2) photographer (or perhaps both) because the serial numbers we used on the first category are meaningless to an average human. For now, I'm going to go with one category for the contact sheets ("Contact sheets by the Ford White House") and then split sensibly when (or if) it becomes too large. Michael Barera (talk) 01:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Actually, now that I look at them again and see they are also categorized under "Photographs by [photographer]", I think it would be most sensible to break them first into photographer and then (depending on how many photographers there were) break them up by year or even month. I hope that sounds alright to you: if not, just let me know. Thanks again! Michael Barera (talk) 01:22, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes, you know best. Also check out Sandbox6 for file page layout, and my user page for the explanation as to why I didn't include the actual image - dyk you cannot use ipad to upload web images to Commons? This is the first gigantic batch upload - so exciting!! Bdcousineau (talk) 01:32, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Alright, that all looks good (except for the iPad snag: I had no idea, but then again I'm not an Apple user). Michael Barera (talk) 03:11, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

please look[edit]

There is an interesting discussion over at COM:VPC#Category:United States Bicentennial materials in the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Museum about the copyright status/issues for presidential gifts. Can you please read it and comment - your first task may become moving our artifact files out of Commons (WHAT?!?!) into en Wikipedia. See also my user page, under "Copyright". I want to play nice, but I think they are missing that these gifts may constitute a separate class. Bdcousineau (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, copyright law in the United States (as in other countries) is super complicated and, at times, makes no sense whatsoever (things you probably knew already, of course). I'm curious about the "Deed of Gift" you mentioned in one of your early posts: I don't have any familiarity with it, but if it required the relinquishing of rights over the gifted materials, then we should be OK. Based on my own experience (which is admittedly not much), what everyone is saying about artistic objects (ie, not clothes or other things with "utilitarian value") being the primary concern sounds right. What may wind up happening, unfortunately, is that these images may have to be moved to English Wikipedia and then claimed as fair use (which is much more restrictive: typically their resolution will have to be reduced, they may only be used on one page, a fair use rationale will have to be filled out, and they will be expected to be deleted if they are every replaced by a free equivalent file). I'm not a big fan of fair use, and some other Wikipedias (like Spanish, Portuguese, and Swedish, if memory serves me correctly) do not allow for it at all. Anyway, if I were you I'd try to figure out exactly what rights (copyright statuses included) the Museum / Library obtained when it ingested all of these materials (and what rights it did not obtain) and then go from there. Based on what rights it obtained, we may be in the clear, but if not it may be worthwhile to try to track down the creators of the objects in question and see if we can get them (or their heirs) to license the objects through the OTRS system. Just keep in mind I'm not a copyright expert, so I can't vouch for the absolute certainty of all of this: sorry. Michael Barera (talk) 18:28, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Wow that is a whole bunch of disclaimers! LOL on me. I have looked at the Deed of Gift - it addresses Presidential materials (in general) being donated to the Libraries for research and educational use, and it does 'require the relinquishing of rights over the gifted materials'. It will so not be possible to contact all the heirs of the artistic object makers. Also I fail to see how a plaque or an award (we have a TON of those) is an artistic object, but that's me. And who would we contact, anyway (about the plaques)?.
Is there someone else to ask that you can think of? I can send a copy of our standard Deed of Gift. As I said your first task may be to move the files... (notice how I'm NOT jumping on it) Bdcousineau (talk) 18:56, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Actually, "require the relinquishing of rights over the gifted materials" sounds very promising: do you know if it includes copyright claims? I know that cultural institutions often require this when ingesting materials to prevent the kind of rights headaches that we may be looking at right now... Michael Barera (talk) 19:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I'll send the language yr way tomorrow, we can think on it. Bdcousineau (talk) 21:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Stoooopid newbie question[edit]

I get templates (sort of). We have a template in files like this. Once we change the template - which we will for the ARC based upload - won't the template change in this file too? I thought we'd need separate template depending on the upload, But Uzma says we just change the "If" parameter: An "if" parameter can be used in the GFPLM-image template for the materials with ARC ID #'s. That is, "if" the ARC ID is put in the parameter, then the ARC ID text will show. "If" there is no ARC ID entered into the parameter, then the ARC ID text will not show.

The new template will say: ""This media is from the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum [hyperlink to Ford Website], a part of the National Archives and Records Administration [hyperlink to Archives.gov]. It can be accessed online through the Archival Research Catalog (ARC) at identifier xyz."

SO does that mean the whole sentance "It can be accessed online through the Archival Research Catalog (ARC) at identifier xyz." drops off? (here's me scratching my head)Bdcousineau (talk) 15:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

My answer to the first part: If the change is in the template itself, then the template in the file will also change when that change is made (the page may need to be refreshed, but it won't need to be edited). If the change is in a parameter (ie, information stored "on" the template instead of "in" it), then it will need to be edited. I think you're talking about the former and not the latter, however, so I think we're OK on this one. Michael Barera (talk) 15:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Not only will the whole sentence drop off, but so will the field (from the normal view, but it can still be in the code). Here is a simple example: I don't use the "permission" field on my personal uploads (see this example) because I use the stand-alone "license" section instead, but if you click "edit" you can see there is a permission field on the template (|permission=). Because it is not being used, it does not even show up in the standard view. But, if I were to put something in that permission field (as in this example Ford image), then the field as well as whatever has been placed in that field will display. This is exactly what is going to happen with the parameter you are talking about. Here on Commons, templates have parameters that can be either required or optional: both the ARC ID and the permission field are examples of optional parameters. If you want to read a bit more about it, read through the parameters section on this page. Hope this helps. Michael Barera (talk) 15:30, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
That is v helpful, thanks. I couldn't do it, but I get the concept. Bdcousineau (talk) 02:55, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

copyright issues[edit]

There are some as yet unresolved issues around the licensing of our artifact images. They may be deleted if that's what the community wants, then we can re-upload with the correct licenses. I've contacted the NARA lawyers to see where the copyright resides. This project may move to the top of the list. You can check it out on the Wikipedia copyright page, but I gotta warn you, it's a wall of words! Bdcousineau (talk) 13:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not anything close to an expert on copyright, so let's see what the lawyers say. If it goes against us, we'll have to remove the impacted images from Commons and transfer them to the English Wikipedia, where they will only be able to be used under very restrictive terms (claims of fair use). While I've been aware of other projects having snags and having to delete individual files (for instance, the Bundesarchiv had a scan of a British newspaper in its collection that had to be deleted on Commons for copyright reasons), I've never heard of anything on this scale for an outreach project. Hopefully you do have all the rights: I really don't want to deal with what I'm fearing, but if we have to do it then we have to do it. Michael Barera (talk) 16:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Actually, the reason why there isn't much precedent (I think) is because the countries that have already contributed significant amounts of cooperation photos (ie, Germany and the Netherlands) have very strong freedom of panorama laws that protect the ability to freely license photographs of physical objects. In the United States, we do have freedom of panorama for buildings but not for sculptures or artworks, and it is the second clause there that will be causing us trouble. I guess I spent too much time in Germany last summer! Anyway, it could be worse: we could be in a country like Russia or France that has no freedom of panorama at all (which makes taking free photographs of buildings very complicated!). Still, US law is not exactly helping us out in the exact area that we're focused on... Michael Barera (talk) 16:27, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Uzma Gamal wrote "Basically, a person at NARA, the Ford library, etc. who would know of the licensing status of copyright questionable Ford item or group of items would send an email per the info at Commons:OTRS and OTRS would give the thumbs up. Then we're good to go copyrightwise. However, we can bring in the material into Commons and work out any licensing issue should someone challenge a listed license. Any challenge would be under a slow delete, giving at least seven days to discuss the issue." I will try his route while waiting to hear from the lawyer - it seems less invasive.
PS you've been invited to write a guest blog on one of NARA's public blogs, later in the spring. We'll keep in touch on that. Have not heard from Smallman lately, hope all is well there. Have a great day! Bdcousineau (talk) 20:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! I really hope that Uzma is right on this one... Michael Barera (talk) 20:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas WiR![edit]

Copyright issues - We have a nice plan suggested to us by Admin. Jim. You can go to my page and comment if you so choose (after you tear through all your gifts and have recovered from the Christmas food-coma, that is).

Merry Christmas, WiR!

Thanks! (And I've responded on your userpage.) Michael Barera (talk) 17:46, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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VernoWhitney (talk) 20:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

you might find this interesting[edit]

on-going discussion about artifact licensing Jim's talk page #More Presidential Libraries questions. Sorry, I don't the mark-up string to get you right to the right location on his talk page - can you send me a sample for future reference? Bdcousineau (talk) 18:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

That looks good, and by the way, the way to do what you were trying to do is like this, which in plaintext looks like this: [[User talk:Jameslwoodward#More Presidential Libraries questions|like this]] Michael Barera (talk) 18:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thx Bdcousineau (talk) 19:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)