User talk:Mmxx

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Salaam Alaykom. I'm trying to get in touch with Sajed.ir so that they can fix the alleged problems and we can use the pics in commons. Although most of the pics are now useable here, I'm trying to make it completely useable! I followed the pages discussing the problems of this website and found some points which should be fixed. For example, some of their pics were borrowed from other sources! and some of them were TV screen shots. The major problem, as was mentioned in those various long discussions, were not mentioning the authors and/or creators. So my questions are as such:

  • How can Sajed.ir fix this problem considering the fact that some of the photographers are really unknown and the pics date back to almost 30 years ago?
  • Does the fact that Sajed.ir is a subsection of governmental organizations changes its copy right rules? How?
  • What else do you think should be done to make the site completely useable? Thanks Mhhossein (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Salam! the problem is that this website has various unattributed images, from different sources and different times. if the authors and publication information of those works are unknown, then Sajed.ir cannot legally relicense them. being a governmental organization doesn't change anything, and authors and publication information of the images should be available in order to verify their copyright status.
Please note that the general copyright notices under websites, only applies to their own contents and to those contents which they have legal rights to relicense them.  ■ MMXX talk 20:24, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Is it enough if the authors are attributed? I'm talking about the images they allege to own. Mhhossein (talk) 07:26, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
As you know, we can only use free images on Commons. such works are either in public domain, or their authors and copyright holders have released them under a free license. to determine whether a work is free or not, we need some basic information such as authors name and date of first publication. some photos may have been published more than 30 years ago, their authors may have died more than 50 years ago, or the author might be a legal personality, in those cases we can use {{PD-Iran}}, but without some basic information, it is not possible to tell if a work is PD or not. also when someone claims that they have permission from the copyright holders to publish and relicense their works, we have to be able to verify their claim, either by contacting the original authors, or by confirming it through a trustworthy third-party.  ■ MMXX talk 15:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
When there are various authors, what sort of trustworthy third-party can help? what should be done then? Mhhossein (talk) 11:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
We have to review all images one by one. there is no way around it. other sources where photos were published previously (books, newspapers...) may help to verify their copyright status.  ■ MMXX talk 20:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC)