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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, MtBell!
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Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, MtBell!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

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For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

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Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 06:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Life magazine archive[edit]

What a neat resource you found! How do you search for what you're looking for? --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Category:Photos misused as evidences of Nanjing Massacre[edit]

It should just be "evidence", not "evidences". --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


Category:Photos misused as evidence of Nanjing Massacre[edit]

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--SpinningSpark 06:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Zhou_Enlai_walking_out_through_the_gate_of_17-MeiyuanXincun.jpg[edit]

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Kam Solusar (talk) 05:18, 26 November 2010 (UTC)


Notification about possible deletion[edit]

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UserB (talk) 16:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

You transferred one of the images in this deletion discussion - File:Jimingsi snow scene.jpg - here from :en. I'm giving you this notification in case you would like to opine on it. --UserB (talk) 16:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

About image uploading[edit]

Thank you for reminding me. It's interesting that why the image can be uploaded and used in various language version of wikipedia but can not in commons.wikimedia. If so, then for the same image there need many times uploading? Is that necessary for the wiki?- 南中鼎金 (talk) 02:01, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Re[edit]

I think so. Additionally, I also doubt the combinations of such parts are realistically useful for any educational purpose. The university never uses such image.-Mys 721tx (talk) 23:36, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:Upload War[edit]

谢谢告知,我已经不管那位了。我看他只是想在自己上传的档案里保留他自己的图片,所以争论无益。--历史研究 (talk) 05:28, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

File:金陵大学堂干河沿校门+五色旗+美国国旗.jpg[edit]

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File:Nanjing 1937 self-organized burial team.jpg[edit]

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Takabeg (talk) 16:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

File:Bodies of Chinese massacred and burned by Japanese troops in Nanjing (Murase Moriyasa's photo).jpg[edit]

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Takabeg (talk) 12:23, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Nanking Massacre and your POV-pushing categorization[edit]

Hi, MtBell. We have to chose encyclopedic and neutral names for categories. We don't behave like Chinese chauvinists and Japanese ultra nationalists. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 21:02, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

As to zh:長谷川清, even if in Chinese Wikipedia zh:Category:南京大屠杀参与者 (participants to the Nanking Massacre) is added, the article doesn't mention to his participation, and there are no source that prove it. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 21:11, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Please remember that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Though 长谷川's role in Nanjing Massacre is not mentioned in a wikipedia article, it does'nt spare his guilt. According to postwar memoirs by Japanese officers, his fleet killed tens of thousand civilians and unarmed soldiers who was then crossing the Yangtze River. --MtBell (talk) 21:17, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but Wikipedia is not field for propagandas. First of all, you have to edit articles of wikipedias (English, Chinese, Japanese etc...), and then shall we solve disputes in Commons. And do you know notable survivors of the Nanking Massacre ? I'm planning to create sub categories (participants, survivors, researchers etc.. ) of People associated with the Nanjing Massacre. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 21:31, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I changed the category under the name "Japanese related to atrocities in Nanjing Massacre". This is my final position. If you have any question about the role of these Japanese in the massacre, please leave me a message and I will show you the literature. --MtBell (talk) 21:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Japanese related to atrocities in Nanjing Massacre". is too POV-pushing name. As you know, even in Chinese Wikipedia, Participants to the Nanking Massacre (zh:Category:南京大屠杀参与者) is used. Please stop POV-pushing categorization. Please !Takabeg (talk) 21:35, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
If you consider "Japanese who participated in Nanjing Massacre" as appropriate, this name also looks fine to me. But I have to reject being criticized as a propaganda-purposed editor. I hope you can read the Chinese article zh:南京大屠杀 which provides more sources and details than any other versions in the entire WP, not even to mention the ja version in which any photo showing Japanese atrocities is rejected. --MtBell (talk) 21:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I can accept neither Chinese national POV nor Japanese national POV. Takabeg (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Photos taken during the Second Sino-Japanese War[edit]

I noticed that you have tagged "no source" to many photos of the war and these photos would be deleted quite soon. I am reverting all you speedy deletion requests to these photos.

Please be aware that any photo, either taken by Chinese or Japanese, during the war which ended in 1945 is public domain according to the copyright laws of China and Japan. Unless you have proofs showing that the copyright has not expired and is holding by another nationality, please DO NOT start any speedy deletion request, because most of them are clearly public domain. Please be very cautious with these historical photos which are widely used accross various Wikipedia projects. --MtBell (talk) 10:37, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

They are not speedy deletion. It's very cleat that there are no sources for images. As long as I know, administrators will give users time. If you (and/or I, other users) can provide sources, they will not be deleted. Note: {{PD-China}} doesn't cover photos personally taken before 1945. In any cases, sources have to be provided. Takabeg (talk) 10:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
P.S. As we know, {{PD-China}} can be used for photos of juristic person. So we cannot use {{PD-China}} without providing original sources. Takabeg (talk) 10:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Your requests lead to speedy deletion. The China copyright law guarantees all anonymous photos in public domain 50 years after their creation. If you can't provide the author's name and a publication date which is later than 1946, it is fair to assume its copyright expired. --MtBell (talk) 10:58, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Even if we claim that photos are anonymous work, we need original sources. Do you understand ? Anyway I don't think admins delete them speedily. When nobody cannot provide sources for them, they cannot become permanent. Unless nobody provide original sources, other users will delete them in the near future. P.S. Please stop personal attack like this. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 11:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
补上来源就可以了--shizhao (talk) 12:08, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Does it bother you if I share the same opinion with another user? Blocking others' mouths is more dangerous than blocking a river. Look at what you have done first. --MtBell (talk) 15:43, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Probably you don't know Comment on content, not on the contributor. I strongly recommend you to learn rules and spirit of Wikimedia. Cheers. Takabeg (talk) 22:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
& like this. Users' recognition of problems on those sourceless images is not bad thing. However unfortunately most of all users provided only random links on internet. Do you know where are original uploaders of those sourceless images ? I think they are the best persons to solve these problem. Because they must have information on original sources. Takabeg (talk) 19:49, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that you've talked of "random links". Could you explain if your uploads are from "random links" or original publication:

--MtBell (talk) 22:16, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

We cannot call them random links. Because I took images from those links. And {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}} is valid to both images. I personally think {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}} is problematic tag, because copyrights of most of them are accepted abroad. But this tag is convenient for commons users at present. In any cases, {{PD-China}} is different from {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}}. When the image was taken before 1946 by Japanese photographer, to use {{PD-Japan}}, we have to prove the date of creation of that image. On the other hand, we have to prove the date of publication to use {{PD-China}}. Do you understand ? Takabeg (talk) 23:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Mr Takabeg, now it is clear that you are quite familiar with {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}} and you began to use this tag long ago. Why did you nominate Deletion requests/File:Bodies of Chinese massacred and burned by Japanese troops in Nanjing (Murase Moriyasa's photo).jpg for deletion in the name of "copyvio" and pretend unfamiliar with that tag? I would not say you are playing double standand but I am informing you that I will not discuss with a dishonest person in the talk page any more. If you want to challenge the copyright status of those PD-China photos, just go and start a deletion request with your "proofs", and we will meet there. --MtBell (talk) 01:38, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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