User talk:Multichill/Archives/2009/October

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Pilatus2006 series

In Category:Pilatus, there are a series of images from a batch you did, e.g. File:Pilatus2006 picture 018.jpg. They include "Date: 2006 (for exact date see exif data)". Exif and [1] include for these April 30, 2005. Is April 2005 correct ? -- User:Docu at 02:37, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't know. You should ask the author. Multichill (talk) 18:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Good point, thanks. I should have thought of that. -- User:Docu at 09:55, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
You might want to do another batch. He listed a series of new directories at User_talk:Gürkan_Sengün#Pilatus_series. -- User:Docu at 10:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Suggested rewording for bot message

Hi Multichill,

I played a bit with your bot message to see if we could find a way to word it in a more friendly way, and perhaps also start in the process developing best practices for other bot operators. If you're open to experimentation about this, would you mind trying out a wording similar to the below, and we'll observe for a while if people react differently to the bot? I've applied four design principles when writing this message: a) make it clear that it's an automated message upfront, so that users don't feel it's "fake" communication; b) avoid didactic/instructive style ("please do X") and instead emphasize choice, options, c) use commonly recognized emotional signals to contextualize the message as positive and not hostile, d) give very easy opt-out instructions. I would appreciate your thoughts as well, and am happy to elaborate on those design principles further.

Proposed text:

Hello (user)!

My name is BotMultichillT. I am not a human being, but a friendly automated script ("bot") operated by Multichill. My job is to find images that don't have categories, and provide users with advice on how to best add them. My job is not to annoy you, so feel free to ignore this, and if you don't want to receive further messages from me, just put the text {{Nobots|deny=BotMultichillT}} on this page. You can do this with other bots as well - see Template:Nobots.

Adding categories to your uploaded media will help other users to easily find and use them, for example, to enrich Wikipedia articles in other languages. To add an image or other media file to a category, you can add the following code to the file description page.

[[Category:Category Name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbit of comets, add the following to the image description page:

[[Category:Astronomy diagrams]] [[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories: Astronomy diagrams, Comets. You can find more information about categories on this page: Commons:Categories.

There's a great tool to find categories for images called CommonSense - if you haven't seen it yet, give it a try. :-)

Here is a gallery of your images in case you want to quickly add categories. Thanks a lot for reading this message!

Would be curious to know what you think. :-) All best,--Eloquence (talk) 06:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Eloquence, late reply from me. I didn't want to spend any time on the categorization process until I had the new bot up and running.
The bot seems to be ready so now it's time to improve things. My bot uses the standard template at {{Please link images}} so please feel free to improve this template. You can find a previous discussion about the wording at Template talk:Please link images/en. Multichill (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

van Abbemuseum

Kan File:P1010995van Abbemuseum.JPG verwijderd worden? Hij moet vertikaal staan ipv horizontaal. Ik heb een nieuwe gemaakt. mvrgr G.Lanting (talk) 20:24, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

  • ✓ Done - Groetjes, Huib talk 20:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Need help

Hey Multichill, all of my file upload scripts have been broken by the recent API change. They are all based on Commons:File_upload_service/Script, so if you have any insight on how to fix that script, it would be a great help. I have ~150 images from the US State Department, and about 3,000 images from Wikipedia Loves Art waiting in the meantime. Or if you know anyone else that might be of help, let me know. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 23:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! That fixed it. Kaldari (talk) 18:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Fachada vila belmiro.jpg

Hello, I'm just sending this message because I've added the categories. I would ask if it's right the way I did.

Note: I am using a translator to communicate.

Lucas081094 (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


File:Bijlmerrampwiers2.jpg

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful information about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

This message was added automatically by Nikbot, if you need some help about it, ask its master (Filnik) or go to the Commons:Help desk. --Filnik 16:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Template:Fotothek-Description

There should be a field for other_versions in this template to add derivatives, extracted or similar versions. Or? --Martin H. (talk) 23:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. I added it for the /en version. Other lang versions (like de) still need to be changed. Multichill (talk) 23:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, updated the other languages and doc. Maybe sometimes in the future a bot can update the tag, but thats not urgently. --Martin H. (talk) 00:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Schijnschimmels.gif

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful information about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful information about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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File:Jalta-confer.jpg

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful information about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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File:Indonesie portaal.jpg

Seems like you check old notifications :) This image in question was marked as missing source because the individual images are unsourced to their originals. I will delete it as a dupe of File:Indonesia portal.jpg but mark the dupe as missing sources. --Martin H. (talk) 15:55, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Language policy

Hi, in an effort to move the Commons:Language policy closer to completion, I have been editing it and cleaning it up for the last few days. I have tried to make the page as neutral and consistent as possible with the relevant policy and guidleine pages that it cross references.

I would appreciate it, as someone who has discussed some of these policies in the past, if you could look at Commons talk:Language policy and contribute your thoughts. This is the version that exists as I am writing it and I am encouraging everyone to consider the "static" page until everything gets sorted out.

Many thanks. Evrik (talk) 17:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Is this ok? Commons_talk:Language_policy#Summary_of_proposal_by_Multichill. -- User:Docu at 17:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
That pretty much sums it up. I'll comment over there. Multichill (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Categories

None of my contributions to Commons seems to have been categorized. Would you kindly help me solve the problem? Please use my talk page on the French Wikipedia site. Many thanks. Robert Ferrieux (talk) 23:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Looks like everything got categories now. Multichill (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Robster_+_Garden.JPG

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Abujoy (talk) 15:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Reminder, fix bug in checkusage (+ gets converted to _). Multichill (talk) 14:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Afbeelding:Dre-steemans.jpg

Was het echt nodig de afbeelding over Dré Steemans nu al te verwijderen? Temeer het de enige foto is die we hadden van de man leek het me meer aangewezen de procedure iets te rekken en de afbeelding pas over enkele dagen te verwijderen als de mediastorm over het plotse overlijden van deze man wat is gaan liggen.--Westermarck (talk) 13:35, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Het lijkt mij geen enkel probleem dat Multichil deze foto heeft verwijderd, zolang hij op Wikimedia Commons onder een false vrije licentie staat brengt het namelijk zowel de uploader als Commons is gevaar wachten tot na een mediahype lijkt me altijd een slecht idee copyvios moeten zo snel mogelijk worden verwijderd.
Multichil, sorry kwam gewoon even langs ;-)
Huib talk 14:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Hier heb ik niets aan toe te voegen. Multichill (talk) 14:50, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Por favor, categorize as imagens File:Cni logo.png

Thanks for the reminder. I thought I did put the category.Mvdiogo (talk) 11:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

How to add categories

As noted on my http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pyt I don't see how categorize an already uploaded file. Please help me. --Pyt (talk) 06:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

{ { fact } }

Apropos http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:PD-USGov-NASA/en&diff=next&oldid=30445454 - You say SOHO claims all materials created by its probe are copyrighted and require permission for commercial non-educational use. Please cite a source for that claim. [2] doesn't cut it; that would be WP:SYNTH. The phrasing there is lawyerly - it seems like they're implying copyright while avoiding explicitly claiming copyright. Please, reply on the template talk page. PS: Feels like you're following me. I'm hoping it's a coincidence. Your edit summary suggests you didn't read mine, so reverting. If you did, then try to revert more respectfully, as I've tried do to. --Elvey (talk) 01:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

<later comment> Actually I went looking for a source to support or refute your revert. http://soho.esac.esa.int/freestuff/CDpagesA.pdf, page 4 slightly supports you : it says "Modification or use of the Materials for any other purpose requires ESA express written consent." Not exactly strong support, but won't object if you revert again.--Elvey (talk) 01:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I guess you didn't notice my note? {{fact}}? WP:SYNTH? Wtf are you talking about? This is Wikimedia Commons, not the English Wikipedia. These warnings are on the template to prevent people from uploading these images. Changing them like this make them useless. Images from this source will be tagged with {{No permission}} right away because this is not enough (nothing about commercial usage and derivative works).
And no, it's not a coincidence. Whenever I encounter a problematic user I take a look at the latest edits. Multichill (talk) 20:38, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
WTF? WTF indeed. You say it says nothing about commercial usage and derivative works. So then why do you defend its use as a source for the statement that DOES say something about commercial usage and derivative works? Analogy: I can't legitimately claim that the CDC suggests face washing is a bad idea for preventing the flu and cite a page where it says hand washing is a a good idea for preventing the flu as a source for that statement. Right? That would be an improper citation right? See the analogy. (And before you go there, all analogies are flawed, by definition.) --Elvey (talk) 20:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Fotothek Categorization and Upload

Hi Multichill, am I right, that not all Fotothek images are uploaded to Wikipedia? I wanted to categorize some sports releated images, but I can't find them see here for example, there for instance Fotothek IDs df_hpm_0023913_012, df_hpm_0023918_002. Or are these images already available? Thank you for your help. --Florentyna (talk) 15:22, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

No, not all images are uploaded to Commons, just a lot. You can find the images already uploaded in Category:Images from the Deutsche Fotothek. More is coming up. We only have permission for the batches I upload so please don't do manual uploads. Multichill (talk) 20:27, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick answer. Can you tell me, how many percent are already uploaded? (In the press information was written about 250.000 images, probably there are until now "only" around 90.000? --Florentyna (talk) 09:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
See Category:Images from the Deutsche Fotothek, about 60.000 items. Multichill (talk) 07:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Regarding your weblink: We have some photographs by Erich Höhne and Erich Pohl, so mabye some more will follow. --Martin H. (talk) 10:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Flickrripper

Hi Multichill, I see that you answered my prayers and wrote some code to to batch uploads from flickr. Unfortunately, I know nothing about python and can't even figure out how to download your code. Can you write a quick explanation of where I can download it and what I need to install first? I'm computer savvy so you don't have to make things too too basic, but I'm new at this. Thanks!! Mangostar (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Did you see Commons:Tools/Flickrripper? It's still pretty rough but should get you started. Multichill (talk) 17:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
No, I hadn't seen that yet. But now I've tried it and I'm still a little confused. My boyfriend recently put ubuntu on his computer (which I'm using at the moment), and I'm horrible at ubuntu so it was quite a struggle, but I think I followed the directions properly and got pywikipedia, setuptools, pil, and flickrapi installed. My problem now is that for some reason I don't see flickrripper,py in the extracted pywikipedia folder. Do you know why that is or where I could get flickrripper separately? I didn't download pywikipedia with svn because svn seemed like a bitch to install in ubuntu. I just downloaded the nightly zip package and extracted it. Thoughts? Mangostar (talk) 21:55, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I just peeked in this file (from here) and it contains flickrrippper.py. You're running ubuntu? Should have svn installed right away. Go to your homedir and type $ svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/pywikipedia/trunk/pywikipedia/ pywikipedia. Now pywikipedia is in ~/pywikipedia. Multichill (talk) 22:08, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
That's so weird - I looked in the zip file I downloaded and it was there too so I just reextracted it. Not sure how it didn't make it from the zip to the directory with all the other files... Now I'm having another problem though. Here is a screenshot: File:Errorflickr.png. I am too lazy to type it all. :) My userconfig.py has:
# The family of sites we are working on. wikipedia.py will import
# families/xxx_family.py so if you want to change this variable,
# you need to write such a file.
family = 'commons'

# The language code of the site we're working on.
mylang = 'commons'

# The dictionary usernames should contain a username for each site where you
# have a bot account.
usernames['commons']['commons'] = u'Mangostar'
so I'm not sure what's going wrong. Mangostar (talk) 22:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
The bot won't run if the user-config.py file is writable by others. Type chmod 700 user-config.py to fix that. Multichill (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

uploading images

Thanks for guiding. i will try to make the necessary changes as soon as possible. V.narsikar (talk) 02:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


SVG and PNG

Only bunnies are allowed to hop here

Ok, thanx. Don't know why I mist that rule. Won't do those changes again. Shall put the note of a SVG being available instead. All others are still dubs (mean gif / png / jpg are dubs of each other)? Take care, Black Orchid 23 okt 2009 10:20

User talk:Black Orchid#Superseding. Please don't hop talk pages. Multichill (talk) 08:25, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

BotMultichillT image uploads

Hi. I noticed that the bot has been very active lately with commons uploads. Roughly how many images do you have in the queue? I ask because we have a capacity issue right now on the image servers, which will be resolved in the short term (= 1-2 months) but which could be a problem in the immediate term. If you have the time to hop onto irc, I'm on the various tech channels as apergos or atglenn; let's see if we can work something out. Thanks, -- ArielGlenn (talk) 06:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

See Commons:Batch uploading. Around 100.000? I'm online, but you appear to be gone. Multichill (talk) 09:50, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

If you want images categorized, fix the upload function.

I put categories on every upload, but they don't appear afterward and I get your damn bot's spam. I've put {{Nobots|deny=BotMultichillT}} on my talk page. If you want images categorized, do something to get the upload page fixed. Kbh3rd (talk) 03:47, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

It is fixed. See Commons_talk:Upload#Category-bug in upload form. Lupo 06:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

US Navy uploads

Hey Multichill, thanks for uploading all those Navy pics, I'm sorting through them now, looking for possible FP candidates.

A few things I found will I was looking through them:

  • 1. Some images seem to have had something go wrong with their title during the upload; For example this one and this one. I'm assuming you meant to have 's around some words ('Sea Sparrow') but something's gone awry. You might want to fix it before you move on to the Army upload.

Hope this helps.

Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 22:09, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Sarcastic ShockwaveLover,
  • 1.: "^ldquo" in the title seems to come from "“ in the description.
  • 2.: Thanks for noticing. It should be fixed now. It's was correct when Multichill uploaded it. ;)
  • 3.: If you look at the file size of this file, you will notice that File:USS Port Royal (CG 73) aground.jpg, isn't a duplicate, but a scaled-down version. File:USS Port Royal (CG 73) aground.jpg should be tagged with {{duplicate}} for deletion. The new file is an improvement over the old one. I found a few ones too and tagged the old ones for deletion.
-- User:Docu at 14:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Cat:Unknown

It says on BotMultichillT's userpage, "Create a daily subcategory of Category:Unknown, for example Category:Unknown as of 29 October 2009 (runs once a day)". Do we need to run that still? Category:Unknown - October 2009's subcats are empty but your bot keeps making the date subcategory. I don't think any more deletion templates use the old system. If you agree, could you turn that function of for the bot? Thank you very much, Killiondude (talk) 23:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Disabled that cronjob. Don't have any time soon to fix it. Multichill (talk) 14:25, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Fiat Tempra

Hi, I've just categorized my pictures of Fiat Tempra. I'm not totally sure I've done it the right way, so if you can please check and tell me. Thank you very much. Here are the images; File:Tempra Wikipedia Funzi.jpg and File:Fiat Tempra.JPG. Let me know about them. Thank you, --Funzi159 (talk) 00:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Looks good! Multichill (talk) 14:25, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Ogg files

Hi - I'm more confused now than before. Most of the files I have uploaded to date are sound files in ogg format. I have always assumed that it's just one of Wikipedias idiosyncrasies that it categorises them as images. Since I just noticed you de-categorised a lot of them for some reason (which I still don't understand) I also can't find anything appropriate on how to categorise sound files. I would also appreciate some pointers on why you de-categorised them to begin with. Thanks. Akerbeltz (talk) 18:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could provide me with one or more examples of files I "de-categorized"? My bots only hunt down uncategorized files and try to find categories for these files, but maybe something went wrong. Multichill (talk) 22:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Vuurwerk 14 juli.JPG

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Vuurwerk 14 juli.JPG has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by JackPotte (talk • contribs) 21:44, 1 October 2009 (UTC)