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Recréé dans une nouvelle version sous le nom File:Samois Bords de Seine.jpg, avec des informations complètes. --Myrabella (talk) 02:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Panorama Saintes

Bonjour Myrabella. Mea culpa pour File:Panorama Saintes.JPG, elle était en double avec File:File-Panorama Saintes-b.JPG et de moins bonne résolution (j'ai demandé sa suppression). Cordialement, Jack ma (talk) 12:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Pas de problème, ce n'était pas une de mes images, et celle que j'avais versée dans Commons, c'est celle-ci, qui est toujours en place :-D ! J'ai juste mis à jour la galerie de la page "Saintes" pour qu'elle appelle l'image de meilleure qualité. Je te signale cependant que ta demande de suppression est incomplète, le fichier Commons:Deletion requests/File:Panorama Saintes.JPG n'a pas été créé. --Myrabella (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Pourtant j'ai bien obéi à la syntaxe demandée (File:Panorama Saintes.JPG; c'est la 1ère fois que je fais une demande de suppression "lente" ;-) Ce fichier doit-il se créer automatiquement ? Jack ma (talk) 14:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Non, ce fichier ne se crée pas automatiquement. Dans la page Panorama Saintes.JPG, il faut effectuer les 4 actions indiquées dans le cadre bordé de rouge. --Myrabella (talk) 21:35, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Désolé. Voilà, c'est fait (y compris l'auteur notifié) Jack ma (talk) 06:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Impec ! --Myrabella (talk) 06:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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Scout Salute - a fine image that needs to be geocoded

Hello! No problem, I'll do it if u'll explain how :) --Yarko (talk) 14:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Yarko (talk) 07:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Squatt de page de discussion

Pas de problème, c'est pas gave. Pour remettre les choses dans leur contexte, Heurtelions (talk · contribs) a une tendance assez prononcée à la logorrhée, et je n'avais pas envie de le voir tourner en rond pendant des semaines sur ma page de discussion (il en a une). Cordialement, Coyau (talk) 11:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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Geocode

Hi, Myrabella!

Incorrect geolocalization - poor and not the useful information, leading users into error. Correct geolocalization - my fast way into prison. Do You want it Smile ?

I add word Vinnytsia into description.


With best regards, --George Chernilevsky (talk) 07:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello George, Thanks for the adjuncts and be sure that I don't want you to be jailed ;-) Best regards, --Myrabella (talk) 11:02, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you very much :-) Albertus teolog (talk) 14:38, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

  • You're welcome! Thank you for having proposed this interesting review. --Myrabella (talk) 22:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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CHIAB

Bonjour, C'est ma petite fille. Yann (talk) 00:56, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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Rosettes

I agree with you, but I want to wait until the conclusion of the discussion. Albertus teolog (talk) 23:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Scope changed

Hi, I changed the scope from Shona witch doctor to Shona traditional healer. The word 'Sangoma' seems to be rather geographically limited (My wife, who is Zambian, had never encountered it). Lycaon (talk) 11:13, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Changing the scope for "Shona traditional healer" was my suggestion in fact and you guessed it right—excuse me if I was unclear. Reading a bit for this review, I have learned that "Shona traditional healers" are called "n'anga". More words on the VIC review page... Regards, --Myrabella (talk) 21:53, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Building scope

Bonjour Myrabella, En parcourant préalablement les recommandations édictées dans les "VI rules" j’ai effectivement noté cette préconisation. J’aimerais juste ajouter quelques points :
- Les règles précisent « in general » ce qui laisse néanmoins une (petite) marge de manœuvre.
- Il existe un certain nombre d’autres exemples de VI « buildings by night ». Ou la règle s'applique à tout le monde ou elle ne s'applique pas.
- L’objet de cette photo était de restituer l’éclairage qui met en valeur ce splendide bâtiment et qui donne une certaine solennité aux ombres des gardes qui se détachent dans la lumière. Tout ceci n’est possible que de nuit. Les scintillements de la Tour Eiffel sont-ils visibles en plein jour ? Le soin tout particulier apporté à l’éclairage de l’Empire State Building ne pourra-t-il donc jamais faire l’objet d’une VI ?
Bien cordialement, --Root66 (talk) 08:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Bonjour Root66,
En réalité, le fait qu'il s'agisse d'une photo nocturne n'est pas la seule raison... Selon moi, File:Greece Parliament.jpg illustre mieux le sujet car la photo étant de jour, on voit mieux le bâtiment ; mais de plus, je trouve le cadrage meilleur, plus centré sur le bâtiment qui est l'objet du "scope", sans élément parasite (critère 3.2 "Absence d'éléments distrayants ou non pertinents" — dans la photo nominée, le lampadaire ajoute à l'ambiance nocturne mais gêne la vision du bâtiment, AMHA) ; on y voit mieux le drapeau grec (identification immédiatement plus claire) et l'horizon y est droit. Certes, la qualité technique n'est pas le critère primordial pour une VI, mais cela pèsera dans le choix s'il y a plusieurs candidats potentiels dans la catégorie. Ne citer que la raison "Photo de nuit" était de ma part une façon courtoise de décliner la nomination, mais je peux ajouter les précisions ci-dessus dans la page de revue si tu le souhaites. Tu peux bien sûr y ajouter tes arguments également, et même ouvrir une "évaluation d'images en compétition (MVR)" avec ta photo et sa concurrente pour recueillir plus d'avis. Avant cela et si tu en as la possibilité, je te suggèrerais volontiers de verser une nouvelle version de ta photo en corrigeant son inclination et en la retaillant pour couper la grille au premier plan. En restant en tout écoute,
Bien cordialement, --Myrabella (talk) 11:06, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
PS sur les éclairages de la Tour Eiffel : une image récente libre de droits représentant la Tour Eiffel éclairée de nuit en sujet principal ne pourrait par être présentée comme VIC car ces jeux de lumière sont protégés par le droit d'auteur et il n'y a pas de liberté de panorama en France : il faut donc une autorisation spéciale :-( --Myrabella (talk) 11:06, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Merci beaucoup Myrabella pour ces précisions. J'adhère sans problème à ton point de vue et je vais en rester là en ce qui concerne cette photo... J'ai un certain nombre d'autres photos qui méritent que l'on s'y attarde un peu plus... Par contre, j'aimerais quand même enfoncer le clou en ce qui concerne la règle de pseudo-interdiction de photos de bâtiments de nuit, qui n'est pas appliquée à la lettre, qui AMHA n'est pas justifiée, mais surtout qui donne un sentiment de flou et donc d'injustice, in fine, à ces évaluations... car encore une fois il existe un certain nombre d'exemples contraires. Est-il possible de faire remonter ce point ? --Root66 (talk) 11:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Pour ma part, je trouve cette préconisation raisonnable. Les images de valeur distinguent les images qui ont la plus grande valeur documentaire parmi toutes celles existant au moment de la nomination sur le même domaine dans Commons. Ce ne sera pas forcément la plus jolie, mais celle qui apporte l'information la plus complète, à la fois par l'image elle-même et par sa description et sa catégorisation. Pour un bâtiment, une photo de jour permet "en général" de mieux discerner la structure d'ensemble de l'édifice et les détails architecturaux, ainsi que les couleurs réelles des matériaux utilisés - pierre, bois, verre, métal, revêtement, couverture, etc. De plus, comme tu le remarques toi-même, les mots "en général" de la préconisation laissent la possibilité de débattre le cas échéant. Mais peut-être pourrais-tu t'essayer encore quelquefois à nominer de bonnes images bien documentées, après avoir vérifié les images existantes dans le domaine choisi ? Tu es en tout cas le bienvenu, comme tout contributeur ! --Myrabella (talk) 06:46, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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Bonjour Grez,
Merci d'avoir proposé la nomination en image de valeur de Commons:Valued image candidates/Elena de Borbón y Grecia.jpg. Cependant, l'image nominée ne remplit pas actuellement tous les critères demandés pour pouvoir être promue. 1/ "Scope" : pourrais-tu le libeller plus simplement, par exemple en "Elena de Borbón y Grecia", indication qui titre les articles espagnols et français et qui serait suffisante (critère n°2 "Est nominée comme étant l'image de plus grande valeur pour un domaine convenablement générique." ? 2/ Il manque la géolocalisation (critère n°5. Est géocodée, lorsque cela est pertinent. Toutes les images sont supposées être géocodées à moins que cela ne soit pas approprié. et ici, avoir le géocodage serait approprié). En te remerciant par avance, et en restant à ta disposition si tu as besoin --Myrabella (talk) 08:24, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Voilà, c'est fait ! Désolé de ne pas avoir vu les remarques plus tôt et merci pour ton message :-) Gregory Zeier (talk) 21:56, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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Merci de m’avoir fait cette remarque, je crois avoir compris que je devais mettre « Etringite » dans le champ Scope mais… je ne sais pas très bien pourquoi. Je ne viens pas dans les « images de Valeur » car j’ai du mal avec l’anglais, et les traductions automatiques donnent parfois des résultats aléatoires. En tout cas çà m’a donné l’occasion de parler français sur Commons, Bien amicalement Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 10:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Encore quelques essais et je devrais y arriver. Je te remercie de ton aide; je viens de découvir grace à toi, que certaines pagse sont effectivement traduites en français, ce qui devrais m'aider, mais pas me rajouter les neurones qui me manquent. Je vais fair un nouvel essai. Je ne manquerai pas de venir voir les photos naturalistes les seules que je puisse évaluer. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 15:21, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

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In the MVR for the PitStop, could I vote? Fale (talk) 00:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but not for your image, as you remain the nominator and the author :-). VI rules say: "neither the nominator nor the original image author may vote." Info: In a MVR, there is a promotion only if there is a single winner with a score of +1 or more. In all other cases, all candidates are closed as undecided. --Myrabella (talk) 00:14, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks

:) - regards --Herby talk thyme 13:39, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

  • You're welcome! I didn't know there was a volcano there, so thanks to you for letting me learn it :-) Regards, --Myrabella (talk) 14:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
    • It was interesting. To start with hard to spot and then once I had spotted it I could see it from many places nearby! Thanks for spotting more of my copy and paste mistakes too! --Herby talk thyme 15:29, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! --George Chernilevsky talk

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Hello. Si mes comptes sont bons, tu me dois un petit service, une participation à une review de VI :-) Est-ce que tu pourrais éventuellement donner ton avis sur la division en deux subscopes proposée dans cette candidature ? Je ne suis pas farouchement contre mais j'aimerais au moins une opinion supplémentaire... Merci d'avance. --Eusebius (talk) 08:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Bonjour ! Si tu fais les comptes, je t'en dois plus d'un... mais tu peux dépenser sans compter en la matière, ce sera toujours avec plaisir :-) --Myrabella (talk) 16:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Merci ! --Eusebius (talk) 08:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)