User talk:OrenBochman

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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, OrenBochman!
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Dvora Bochman Images[edit]

Commons is very picky about making sure that an artist's copyright is not infringed, so typically a photograph of an artist's work is not allowed. But, since it is your understanding that the artists would like the photos of her work to remain, here's what you have to do. Have the artist send an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org to grant a copyright release for her works.

OK, so this is probably very confusing, I know. Commons:OTRS should give you a good sense of how it happens. Volunteers at Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard will be able to help, as well. Go ahead and ask me any questions you have as well. Thanks, and good luck.--GrapedApe (talk) 12:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Here's another thing too: The matter is probably more complicated because the images fall under the category of a derivative work (a photo of an art piece). That makes the copyright questions 2x harder. See Commons:Derivative works for clarification.--GrapedApe (talk) 12:21, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointers - I still think that this is uneccessary since all the information, and license was provided at upload time using the upload wizard and nothing new is beeing described in the email. After all upload wizzard cannot be used to upload canvases or statues ;-) only derivatives so I don't see how anyone at Commons be confused about the licensing. If however there is a problem that the upload wizard despite all the pamphlets is broken when it comes to licensing an artist's own works I'd be glad to file a bug in bugzilla on your behalf.
Anyhow we don't want the images deleted so I'll arrange for the email to be sent. It might take a day or two. Who will then close the rfd at Afd - should she send you a CC perhaps?? OrenBochman (talk) 09:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I understand your frustration. Here's the thing though: in order for the license on the art to be properly released, there needs to be some evidence that the person claiming the release is actually the author. This is where OTRS comes in. Otherwise, it would be very easy for anyone to take a photo of an art piece, upload it, and claim that they're the artist. Across commons, OTRS confirmation is required for any release for any previously published material. It might seem counter-intuitive, but that's the best way to keep copyright violations at bay. Hope that explains it. The OTRS volunteer will take care of the Deletion Requests once they receive the email. --GrapedApe (talk) 05:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi again - Dvora should be sending the email today. I just have a few more questions on this. Doesn't the digital millenium copyright act provide the protocol for a copyright infrigment claims? What you are saying is that Commons is assuming bad faith in this and other cases. Couldn't we apply the same bad faith argument agrument to wikipedia edits - sice they might all be potential WP:CPVIO - especialy where they are derivatives of other works. Finaly what about user's right for anonymity - requesting that they demonstrate their identiy in this process is a violation of thier privacy?
Yes, DMCA does apply, but Commons does have stricter requirements that that. It's just policy. On the 2nd point, commons does make a distinction between previously published works and non-previously published works. And, yes, the previously published works that are uploaded are treated as guilty until proven innocent. Here's why:
1) When there is an image with previously published material, it is much harder to prove that the uploader is actually the author of that work. That's because the image was out there in the public and anyone could just upload it to commons and claim ownership. The only way to make sure is to require OTRS confirmation.
2) When there is an image that is not previously published, making sure that the uploader is the author is a safer assumption. If the image doesn't appear anywhere else until it appears on commons, that's a good indicator that the uploader really is the author.
It all come down to the problem of anonymity on the internet. Anyone can make an account claiming to be someone else and upload their work. This OTRS procedure is an attempt to solve that problem. I hope this makes sense. If you want, you can get more input from other editors at Commons:Village pump/Copyright.--GrapedApe (talk) 15:18, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


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GrapedApe (talk) 01:16, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Tutorial[edit]

Hello, I am developing a number of MediaWiki User/Developer related tutorials on Meta. One of the tutorial subjects is a "Media Specialist" training. I wanted to know if Common Users have developed or can recommend some instructional materials for adopting/training new users to contribute at the Graphics labs? OrenBochman (talk) 09:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Please, see with me. I created the first graphic labs (FR, EN, Commons).
1. TIPS: They are places for brainstorming and crossteaching: while we edit images, with share our difficulties and tips.
2. PROCESSES: When there is something more complex, we encourage to write down true tutorials. FR-EN
Tutorials: The French, English, German labs are both the more advanced and with the most tutorials. Main axis being: Image editing ; Cartography ; and recently the French team push toward programming (d3.js) and http://sharemaps.org (Google-map like)
Authors: Sting (now inactive), Bourrichon, and myself are the most prolific tutorial writers.
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File:2012.07 eurotrip Innsbruck mountains 06.jpg[edit]

It's rather pointless to try to force this image to be something which the original photographer did not really intend it to be, and which is not its only valid interpretation. If you want to indicate the exact Yoga position used, then you can do that adequately by editing the description in the image description page. If you want a closely cropped version, then please re-upload that altered version under a different file name. In any case, your rename request has been declined twice, so please don't go down that road yet again. AnonMoos (talk) 15:41, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

  1. AFAIK this is the first response to the request - and I don't like the way it has been handled.
  2. I've made my rename requests in good faith, and corrected errors I have uncovered.
  3. Did you contact the photographer regarding her intent?
  4. The renaming mechanism does not require that the new name be the only valid one, only that it is more useful.
  5. I've asked for a number of renames, which would greatly aid in managing yoga related materials.
  6. Since this is the only available image for Wikipedia under CC by SA it should be cropped and used as I have attempted.
  7. My cropping of the image preserved the original but made it available for use in about 20 page.
  8. Images in the asana category are pretty useless if they are not organised in any sensible fashion. I tried to improve but I notice that working in commons is always against maximum resistance and for no reason. I don't see how one can make progress if this is even such a non controversial renaming and cropping has to be such a a hassle, and requires a committee to approve.
  9. p.s. looking at the history, you could have actually spent the same energy to do what you suggested instead of snubbing my request. OrenBochman (talk) 22:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
If you want a specially processed version of an image to serve a special purpose, then it's generally up to you to prepare it (and if it's significantly different from the originally Commons version, it's usually best not to overwrite the existing image). What you ended up doing is fine, but I really don't understand your apparent aversion to indicating the name of yoga positions in image descriptions (as opposed to image filenames -- not everything has to be in the filename). AnonMoos (talk) 04:44, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

File:Unknown asana 8.jpg[edit]

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Hanay (talk) 04:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

מכיון שבעלת הזכיות כרגע בתהליך רילוקיישן אני מבקש דחיית מחיקה של חודש. OrenBochman (talk) 07:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

New level {{User VG-4}}[edit]

Hi ; new level 4 for you ?

VG-4

--Medium69 You wanted talk to me? 14:51, 11 December 2014 (UTC)