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Welcome[edit]

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File:DVBViewerLogo.png[edit]

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93.218.168.89 13:36, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

hi[edit]

at the FX lab, I don't mean 'this' this, I mean this this. I highlighted the link which didn't show up well. Penyulap 15:26, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Graphic Designer Barnstar Hires.png The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
I, Kaldari, hereby award Patrick87 the Graphic Designer's Barnstar for their exceptional work on SVG creation for Commons. Kaldari (talk) 20:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Your appreciation is most welcome. -- Patrick87 (talk) 21:54, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Flag Kingdom of Hawaii.PNG[edit]

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-- ΠЄΡΉΛΙΟ 11:52, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


Welcome, Dear Filemover![edit]

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Techman224Talk 04:14, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Just a quick question: The welcome message says "Use the CommonsDelinker link in the {{rename}} template to order a bot to replace all ocurrences of the old title with the new one.". Can I actually use CommonsDelinker as a Filemover? I thought I needed to add {{universal replace}} to User:CommonsDelinker/commands (which can only be edited by administrators) to use the bot. Otherwise I have to add my requests to the talk page and wait for an administrator to approve it, right? Or is there some exception for filemovers? --Patrick87 (talk) 12:02, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
What actually happens is that you put the template on the User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands page, where an admin then moves into the main page for processing. The {{rename}} template handles this. Techman224Talk 13:10, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

The SVG Barnstar![edit]

SVG Barnstar Hires.png The SVG Barnstar
For helping out with my Graphics Lab SVG request. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 03:10, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Face-smile.svg --Patrick87 (talk) 08:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Portrait of a Gentleman, Hamburg, 1556.jpg[edit]

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful information about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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bn SVG file[edit]

Hi, need a bn wikidata SVG logo. make a new images like this (File:Wikidata-logo-en.svg in the place of wikidata, add this উইকিউপাত্ত colour is same but i think text size is not same) see this, i made this one File:Wikidata-logo-bn-156px.png. Plz do this.--Aftab1995 (talk) 17:21, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Please place the request in the Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop. There are many graphists around that are all able to do what you're asking for. --Patrick87 (talk) 17:30, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
U have a message on Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop#bn SVG file. plz, try to fix that . before uploading in File:Wikidata-logo-bn.svg, upload it any photo shareing site (e.g imgur) for Show me, (upload it main file after i saying ok). --Aftab1995 (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
(Request: please try to upload a new version for File:Wikidata-logo-bn.svg using bold. how can you do it:1st select 'Siyam Rupali normal' font then select Bold then copy উইকিউপাত্ত & paste it. example) [i'm not expert like you, this is just a suggestion] regards.--Aftab1995 (talk) 18:13, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
There is no bold font face available (at least I didn't find one). That means I cant just "use bold" as you wrote, at least not in Inkscape, the software I'm using. --Patrick87 (talk) 18:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh.. Ok. Thanks :) --Aftab1995 (talk) 18:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I bolded the font by increasing its path outline. Tell me if it looks, ok. --Patrick87 (talk) 18:45, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia like thumb.png Perfect --Aftab1995 (talk) 15:19, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Mass PNG to SVG replacement[edit]

Dear Patrick, I find the entire replacement of the PNG versions of the symbols of Daugavpils (i.e., the coat of arms and the flag and flag) with SVG ones across all the pages a very bad idea. Under a high resolution the coat of arms (and so the flag) looks all right, but under a low one it looks kind of distorted compared to PNG, e.g., here. Hope you don't mind if I undo part of your edits where I find it necessary. --glossologist (talk) 01:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion the differences are marginal. The SVG shows a little more detail (a little washed out at very small sizes due to anti-aliasing) while the PNG looks a little crisper due to sharpening but shows effectively less detail. I always prefer using solely the SVG version of a file if it is superior or equivalent to the PNG for several reasons:
  • First of all, free scalability, so it still looks good when the size is changed in the article afterwards, or when the same file is reused in a new article.
  • If fixes (e.g. color or some COA details) are applied to the SVG in future all articles are profiting from this change immediately. Repairing details in PNGs is often harder and therefore often omitted in favor of the SVG version therefore leaving articles using the PNG version with an outdated version.
  • If readers want to reuse the file they follow the link on the image and use the first file they get their hands on. I doubt they'll follow the link to the superior SVG version on the file description page on Commons.
  • If at some point MediaWiki offers the possibility to directly embed SVG files without the intermediate step of pre-rendering a PNG version, an SVG version will always be the preferable option since it will offer superior quality in essentially all cases.
However, if you still want to keep the PNG version, then I won't stop you. --Patrick87 (talk) 02:08, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Requests for comment/AppropriatelyLicensed[edit]

Hi Patrick. Thanks from commenting at the RFC. There is a clause in the proposal for precisely the concern you have: "Works that are derivative of other works that are themselves appropriately licensed may be uploaded if the copy-left/share-alike terms of that work do not allow the use of a licence appropriate for the derivative work. For example, screenshots of GPL software must be GPL." There's no intention to remove GPL/GFDL where it is appropriate and in fact a necessary part of the share-alike terms of the free software/manual being imaged. I hope this addresses your concerns and you can change to supporting the proposal. Thanks, Colin (talk) 06:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but first of all this clause is so hard to understand that I never ever want something like this on a Wiki were all users should be able to easily understand the policies. Secondly this clause is about "derivative works" (probably meant for screenshot primarily), but if for example an SVG logo is part of a GPL source code package, there's nothing to derive. As far as I understand this still would not be covered. --Patrick87 (talk) 08:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I'd like if we can agree on principle and then work out tweaks to the wording later, rather than opposing on something fairly small and easily fixed. There's no intention here to prevent upload of appropriately licensed material. The licence issues are complex and hard to completely avoid though I agree with you that we should make is as simple to follow as possible. One way to help is the use of wizards for upload (which we already do) so the user is asked what kind of image they are uploading and then guided through the choices appropriate. I agree that an image that actually forms part of the software component (such as the logo) isn't a derivative work (if unchanged) and should be allowed to be uploaded. Could you change to a "support" with the caveat that the wording be tweaked to allow uploading original works that form part of a GPL software package. Colin (talk) 09:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but the policy changes you propose are just pointless in my opinion. They add a lot of unnecessary restrictions that 1) will make it even harder for new users to understand how to license their files, 2) would have to be loosened afterwards to allow for all cases were free media exists but might be "inappropriately" licensed, 3) add unnecessary workload (where we already have too few volunteers) to check if everyone sticks to the new policies and applies "appropriate" licenses, 4) won't improve much upon the current situation (GFDL and GPL are already used rarely anyway).
As you write: Invest your time to improve the experience (e.g. upload wizard) for new and inexperienced users, so they will not pick "inappropriate" licenses accidentally. Everybody who knows about the licenses will not purposely put an "inappropriate" license tag anyway but only if necessary to do so. --Patrick87 (talk) 09:34, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Patrick87, I read your objective for opposing, and I do not understand it. I have written a reply to you on the proposal page. If you have the time, I would appreciate if you could comment on it and enlighten me, as I may have overlooked some argument/reason. Thanks, --Slaunger (talk) 18:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Manual Archival in Graphics Lab[edit]

Hi Patrick, at the GFX lab, we have to wait until the requester expresses their satisfaction with the work before archiving the request, this has always been the way. Please don't re-archive requests where the requester hasn't had a chance to make their comment, there is no need for it, and it discourages them from commenting. Remember, it's not the artists place to argue or make the requesters feel uncomfortable, patience is important. Penyulap 05:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Penyulap, I don't think there is any policy like that. If I'm wrong please point me to the corresponding section. I archived the requests that were marked as "resolved". As we (at least I'm sticking to that useful rule) only mark requests as resolved if either the requester was satisfied or if the requester didn't respond in a long time (so it is probably he'll not respond anymore), there is nothing wrong with archiving those threads. Additionally I always check if the image has been placed into the intended article before marking as resolved, to prevent work is done in the GL that afterwards is never used because hte original requester lost interest in it.
So, feel free to restore requests that you think weren't resolved yet (then please remove the {{resolved}}, too). Otherwise there is no point in cluttering the Illustration Workshop with completed requests. Only as comparison: In the Englisch Graphics Lab requests get archived after ~30 days of inactivity (even if they are not resolved), so I don't think anybody can blame us for hastily archiving requests. Rgards, --Patrick87 (talk) 11:30, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Just in case you might not have noticed: The resolved requests are copied over to the Archives (currently Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/2013). They are not lost! --Patrick87 (talk) 11:35, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
There is no policy that says you shouldn't replace every instance or the letter 'Z' on commons with the letter 'D'. I'll respond on the GFX lab talkpage, as should you. Penyulap 12:32, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes there is: it's called vandalism and is clearly deprecated b policy. But I don't think such nonsense examples will lead us anywhere here. --Patrick87 (talk) 12:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

talkback[edit]

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Message by Penyulap regarding Commons talk:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop[edit]

Don't remove my comments. Get someone who isn't using the ‎Kevjonesin or Patrick87 accounts to do it. Penyulap 21:01, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, butt replicating a factual wrong graphic into the header of a projects talk page is not a comment. We have our discussion for this on Commons talk:Graphic Lab#Archiving requests. Don't you think this is sufficient? If you feel like this should be discussed on the Illustration workshop's talk page after the redirect to the Graphic Labs talk page was removed, then you may move the whole discussion. Putting something without any context on the talk page is pointless, though. Regards, --Patrick87 (talk) 21:19, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
P.S. I hope I don't have to get somebody else to remove it. I'd hate to bug an admin with the job. --Patrick87 (talk) 21:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

COA Peñaranda de Duero[edit]

Hallo Patrick87 - ich habe eine gute Nachricht für dich: dieses Wappen lässt wie bei allen spanischen Gemeindewappen üblich aus Bausteinen erstellen. In den Subkategorien der Category:SVG coat of arms elements findest du Krone, Baum etc. --Maxxl2 - talk 09:12, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Ja, das habe ich mir schon gedacht, aber ich bin nicht so der "Wappen-Typ" wie du vielleicht schon durch unsere Gemiensame Arbeit in den Grafikwerkstätten gemerkt hast Face-wink.svg. Du kannst den Hinweis ja einfach der Anfrage hinzufügen, vielleicht nimmt sich dann ja jemand der Sache an (vielleicht zauberst vielleicht ja sogar du eine Version aus dem Ärmel Face-wink.svg). -Patrick87 (talk) 09:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Wenn ich das nächste Mal meine Federbettecken nach dem Lineal ausrichten soll, kommst du dann vorbei? Machst Du auch Hausbesuche? Oder sollten wir einfach etwas legerer sein? Typisch deutsch - Herr Oberlehrer? ;) --Maxxl2 - talk 19:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Bitte was? Nur weil ich die Galerie verschoben hab? Ich hatte einen Kategorielink von mir gefixt, dabei gesehen, dass du die Gallerie unten im Text eingefügt hattest, und sie bei der Gelegenheit der Einheitlichkeit halber direkt nach oben verschoben. Da ist doch nun wirklich nichts dabei? --Patrick87 (talk) 19:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
P.S.: Der kurze Hinweis war in keinerlei Hinsicht als Rüge gemeint (falls du ihn so interpretiert haben solltest). Er war vielmehr dazu gedacht, die Leser darauf hinzuweisen, dass a) eine Grafik hochgeladen wurde und dass b) diese von dir ist. Sonst kapiert das niemand, der nicht auf die Versionsgeschichte schaut. Ich dachte, dass man ruhig sehen darf, dass diese tolle Arbeit von dir stammt! --Patrick87 (talk) 19:30, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
P.P.S.: Habe gerade gesehen, dass du direkt zurückgesetzt und meinen Beitrag dabei einfach gelöscht hast? Schade, dass du mir direkt niedere Beweggründe unterstellst, wenn ich eigentlich versucht hatte dir für deinen Beitrag zu danken. Face-sad.svg --Patrick87 (talk) 19:55, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Ich unterstelle niemand niedere Beweggründe. Respektiere doch einfach, dass ich mir auch über die Form und Platzierung meiner Beiträge Gedanken mache. Lass es doch einfach so. wie ich es geschrieben habe. Du brauchst nicht hinter mir her zu putzen. Sollte ich das wünschen, werde ich dich es wissen lassen. Außerdem möchte ich meinen Namen nicht in den Vordergrund spielen. Schau dir mal auf Commons:We miss you mal den Selbsteintrag von Jkadavoor an: da wird es peinlich und ist zum Fremdschämen schön. Weniger ist mehr. --Maxxl2 - talk 20:08, 27 June 2013 (UTC) PS : Es gibt doch keine Vorschrift oder Übereinkunft, dass die Gallerie an einer bestimmten Stelle stehen muss. Die kann auch locker oder chronologisch eingestreut sein - oder?
Es gibt keine Vorschrift, aber es ist üblich. Dafür haben wir schließlich die Preloads mit "Anfragenskelett". Ich finde es übersichtlicher, wenn jede Anfrage gleich aussieht. Deshalb habe ich auch diese vermeintliche "Kleinigkeit" (leider hast du dich gleich daran gestoßen) geändert. Wenn ich nicht sowieso schon den Abschnitt bearbeitet hätte, hätte ich dir sicher auch nicht "hinterhergeputzt" wie du es nennst. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:17, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
P.S. (bzgl. deiner nachträglichen Änderungen am obigen Beitrag) Mann, interpretierst du da jetzt eine Menge rein. Ich hatte doch nur "Danke Maxxl2" geschrieben, ist das etwa schon zu viel?
Ansonsten schreibst du schon warum ich persönlich Galerien nicht chronologisch haben will: "eingestreut"! Dadurch sind die Bilder nämlich meistens über die Anfrage hinweg verstreut, statt übersichtlich in einer Galerie am Anfang der Anfrage gesammelt. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:27, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
(quetsch)Das mit dem Danke habe ich leider übersehen. Ich bitte um Entschuldigung. Ich wollte eigentlich nur die Galerie an die ursprüngliche Stelle haben, damit der nächste Beitragautor dieses Zwischenergebnis beim Schreiben im Blick hat. --Maxxl2 - talk 20:36, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Und deswegen jetzt der ganze Stress? Face-wink.svg – Schwamm drüber (hoffe ich?)...
Mein persönlicher Rat (keine Weisung, nicht das hier nochmal der "Oberlehrer" oder "Ordnungdienst" kommt Face-surprise.svg): Schreib einfach immer wenn du eine Grafik einfügst (ganz egal wo) einen kurzen Kommentar, z.B. einfach sowas wie "Grafik hochgeladen, siehe Galerie". Dann ist die Chronologie gesichert und man weiß immer wer wann welche Grafik eingefügt hat (auch wenn man z.B. mal ins Archiv guckt wo man keine einfache Möglichkeit mehr hat die Versionsgeschichte nachzuvollziehen). Ist mir nämlich schon ein paar mal aufgefallen, dass du einfach die Galerie aktualisiert aber nichts dazu schreibst. Wenn man die Seite dann nicht beobachtet / die Versionsgeschichte studiert, bekommt man unter Umständen gar nicht mit, dass du die Grafik aktualisiert hast. Spätestens im Archiv muss man dann raten woher sie kommt. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Das erinnert mich an das Simultanspielveranstaltung eines Großmeisters in einem Saal in Solingen mit 60 Spielern - die Spieler saßen außen an den Tischen in einem großen Rechteck und der Großmeister eilte innen von Matte zu Matte, blickte kurz drauf und machte einen schnellen, wohlerwogenen Zug. Plötzlich lief eine weitere Person des Ordnungsdienstes innen hinter dem Großmeister her und griff nach der jeweils zuletzt gezogen Figur des Großmeisters und zentrierte die Figur in die Mitte des besetzten Feldes. "Warum machst du das?" wurde er gefragt. "Ich helfe dem Großmeister ein wenig beim Üben. Der Großmeister zieht noch so unpräzise - und das geht doch nicht!" --Maxxl2 - talk 20:31, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Ähm... ja Face-wink.svg. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Portal usage[edit]

Hi!

I didn't use the {{Autotranslate}} template, because this template has many named parameters, but {{Autotranslate}} can manage only numberred parameters, and it's uncomfortable to use there numberred parameters in my opinion. If you use the Autotranslate, you have to change |custom={{{custom|}}}|demo={{{demo|… to |2={{{custom|}}}|demo={{{demo|… on the main template page and |custom={{{custom|}}}|demo={{{demo|… to |custom={{{2|}}}|demo={{{3|…. tacsipacsi (talk) 06:45, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

OK, I see. But the template was pretty broken before, that's why I attempted to fix it. Can you check why it wasn't working before and correct it? --Patrick87 (talk) 07:06, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Kudos[edit]

I think posting a centralized thread about archiving on the general GL talk-page and then posting short notices with links on the individual workshop pages was well done. It's relevant to both 'each' and 'all' the workshops. Makes a good precedent and seems to have been fairly effective. --Kevjonesin (talk) 00:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

bn SVG Image[edit]

Sorry for request here. I need a bengali SVG version for this Images, replace →(BANGLADESH= বাংলাদেশ , Barisal= বরিশাল , Chittagong= চট্টগ্রাম , Dhaka= ঢাকা , Khulna= খুলনা , Rajshahi= রাজশাহী , Rangpur= রংপুর , Sylhet= সিলেট ) see here. If you've got time, Please make it (Using Siyam Rupali font). Thanks in advance --Aftab1995 (talk) 20:12, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done, see File:Bangladesh divisions bn.svg. Tell me if it is ok. Also consider placing such requests at COM:GL/I, since they might be resolved faster, since more graphists are around. Personally I'll see it there, too, since I'm watching that page. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Perfect--Aftab1995 (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Could you please update those maps →File:BD Map admin.svg (just add Divisional Boundary for Rangpur Division & one ◙ for Rangpur District, Divisional Headquarter [under the Rangpur]), →File:Bangladesh physical map.svg (just add Divisional Boundary for Rangpur Division). This File:Bangladesh location map.svg map & this map will help you. Please do it, this is very very important coz this two maps use in many wikis.
Sorry, don't have time to actually edit maps currently. Please request this at COM:GL, specifically COM:GL/M (as I told you before and in the comment directly above... by constantly not following my recommendations you're not really increasing my incentive to do voluntary work for you!). --Patrick87 (talk) 18:56, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Don't make substantial and controversial changes to the meaning of other editor's remarks.[edit]

Warning. I don't care what you think you are doing don't alter my remarks. You've substantially changed the meanings. This is unacceptable. Penyulap 02:57, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Can you elaborate? Assuming you're talking about the Graphics Lab I only replaced {{resolved}} with {{section resolved}} and applied the (correct) date were it was missing, so it will be correctly archived by User:SpBot. --Patrick87 (talk) 03:00, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
This is the second time in less than a month I've had to formally warn you not to alter my comments. What part of DO NOT ALTER MY COMMENTS do you not understand ? As for archiving at the FX lab, we could discuss all day what you do not understand there, and as you don't do yourself any favours whatsoever in trying to get along with the other artists. I'll only go so far as to point out the obvious. It appears any idiot can tell the two different templates perform two different functions from archiving. If I wanted to use the section resolved template for auto archiving because I knew the section was ready for archiving, I'd use the section resolved template, I did not because it IS not. DO NOT ALTER MY COMMENTS. I don't give a rats ass what you dream up in regards to what you think I'm thinking, you've never once got it right. Not even close. Penyulap 03:24, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I did not alter any of your comments. I replaced {{resolved}} with {{section resolved}}. Both templates fulfill the same purpose: Marking a section as resolved. The only difference is, that {{section resolved}} is recognized by User:SpBot while {{resolved}} is not. As for the visuals I told you there was the possibility to make both templates look exactly the same, but personally I don't see the need for this and therefore implemented it first, so everybody can decide on his/her own. Please stop your destructive behavior and also the personal attacks. If you want your opinion to be considered participate in the constructive discussions I'm trying to offer you. Otherwise please stop reverting my edits. I brought this issue to WP:AN since I'm not willing to accept any longer that you're blocking my work in a destructive way. --Patrick87 (talk) 03:58, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Patrick87, I have a question... will SpBot do its archiving job properly if there is both a "section resolved" tag and a "resolved" tag in the section? Also, it would be useful to me if you answered the questions on my talk page about the "stale" tag. – JBarta (talk) 03:12, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

It will work, but it is an unnecessary duplication. Actually you were the one who asked on Commons talk:Graphic Lab#"resolved" vs "section resolved" if it was necessary to have two templates. And the answer is "No, {{section resolved}} is enough". --Patrick87 (talk) 03:41, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

"neutral"?[edit]

Regarding this, I can't help but be curious... why is green not neutral? Has anyone (other than you) objected to the green arrow and preferred the black arrow? Certainly I can live with a black arrow (though green stands out more), but that just seemed like a "solution" to a problem that doesn't exist. – JBarta (talk) 02:56, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Actually the template might also be used in places were a "resolved" section does not necessarily mean the request was resolved. I could even think of cases in the Graphics Lab were this could apply, e.g. assume someone asking for an SVG version of a photograph! We could mark the section as resolved after explaining the requester this was not possible while not resolving the request itself.
Therefore I thought it was a good idea to keep the template neutral. While a check-mark itself is already some indication a request might be positively resolved, a green check-mark is for sure. I would not have added an arrow in the first place (and there was also nobody who expressed the wish for an arrow other than you Face-wink.svg) but I kept it as a concession for your edit.
Besides the general look of the {{section resolved}} template: Did you know we could even style it to whatever we like best in the Graphics Lab? There's no need to stick to the default style (if we come up with a reasonable alternative)! --Patrick87 (talk) 03:27, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I added the arrow so it stood out and looked similar to the "resolved" tag. Seemed like a nice idea. I guess I'm spoiled by the way the automatic archiving works on the en photography workshop. It's simple, intuitive, works like a charm and no one complains about it. Here on Commons things are just a bit messier... Oh well. – JBarta (talk) 03:37, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
OK, sorry Jbarta, but please stop bugging me with how "simple, intuitively, and charmingly" it works on enwiki. I asked how you preferred archiving to be done on Commons Talk:GL#Automatic archival of Graphic Lab requests and there was nobody expressing any preference (except Penyulap who'd probably prefer to unarchive archived request automatically). Therefore I implemented SpBot since this bot was ready to use without much work needed. I don't know if you're aware, but to get the same functionality as on enwiki we'd need the bot operator to rewrite the bot for us, request for approval here on Commons, and after all I doubt automatic archival of stale request would be received positively here. Let's stick with SpBot and don't make the whole maintenance task more work now than manual archiving would have been. --Patrick87 (talk) 03:58, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
So Dycebot was never really an option? And yes, I did mention DyceBot by name early on. At any rate, SPBot will certainly do what it's intended to do and it's certainly better than nothing. It's good you got it set up. Action is always more useful than talk. – JBarta (talk) 07:00, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
As we speak... cha-CHING!... just kidding ;-) – JBarta (talk) 07:03, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
It was an option – but only if there had been clear consent we wanted "stale" tagging and archiving. I don't see such consent and even you mentioned DyceBot only once, merely on a side note, and it didn't really sound as if you preferred it much over SpBot. Anyway, SpBot is doing his job now so I think we are fine and can see how it goes. And even before we spoke yesterday... cha-CHING!... just kidding, too ;-). --Patrick87 (talk) 09:11, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

float right[edit]

Hi Patrick, nach deinen Änderungen in {{SimplSVG}} etc. sehen die tags bei mir nicht sehr gut aus, zwei Boxen überlagern sich großteils. Bei starker Verkleinerung stehen die Boxen nebeneinander, je größer (Alt++) die Anzeige ist desto mehr liegen sie übereinander. Sicher lässt sich in der Codierung und im Format viel verbessern, aber so wie jetzt soll es nicht bleiben. sarang사랑 06:25, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, ich war mir eigentlich sicher, dass die zweite Box umbricht, wenn der Platz nicht ausreicht. Getestet habe ich es zu meiner Schande jedoch nicht. Darum werde ich mich gleich heute Abend kümmern.
Grundsätzlich bist du mit der Änderung hoffentlich einverstanden? Die zwei direkt untereinander platzierten Boxen taten mir nämlich immer in den Augen weh. Sah irgendwie immer nach Schilderdwald aus. Die eine an den rechten Rand zu rücken schien mir da die einfachste Lösung. Bin aber natürlich für Alternativvorschläge offen. --Patrick87 (talk) 11:36, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Sperm whale diagram[edit]

I constantly fix this diagram as I get a more accurate vision of what is in its head. The literature on sperm whale anatomy is crude and inconsistent.

The image now uses proper text instead of paths. Earlier versions had a bug where black boxes appeared in the browser image, because current browsers don't support that format (SVG 1.2 flowed text). I fixed it by converting the text to paths. When I realized what was the problem, I converted the text to SVG 1.1. Sorry, this was indeed sloppy of me.

I respect the work you've done and will fix it myself, if you wish. I don't speak Arabic, but it's just a matter of cutting and pasting the text to the corresponding parts, right?Kurzon (talk) 19:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Flag of Morgan Hill, California.svg[edit]

On 6 August 2013 you "optimized" the image file File:Flag of Morgan Hill, California.svg. Do you realize that by doing so you also destroyed the metadata inside the file, which gives a description of the image, name of the creator of the image, licensing information, etc.? — Quicksilver@ 22:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed that the file actually contained useful meta information (Close to no files do, and I check it nearly every time. In this case I seem to have overlooked it).
You could have communicated this in a more friendly manner, though. This way you're not making friends with anybody. --Patrick87 (talk) 23:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
My objective is to be accurate, not make friends. — Quicksilver@ 12:58, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, some people are lacking social skills...
By the way, "accurate" could be considered "copyright violation" in this case, since your SVG states the Flag was you work and gives a license of your choice for it. Strictly speaking you're neither the Author nor have any right to specify a license. --Patrick87 (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

File:ECIL Logo.jpg[edit]

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gallery tag[edit]

Just a heads up, I've responded to your comments at COM:VP. I experimented with changing it so it will always try and fit the width, but if its the last row of images, and it can't fit the row width, instead of exapnding to 1.5 times the size, it will expand only as big as the most expanded row was. If its the only row, then it keeps the images the same size. Images in last row are still often bigger (since often 1.5 times is enough to fit the row), but not as noticeable as before. You can see the changes in action at my test wiki http://tools.wmflabs.org/bawolff/gallery/index.php?title=Featured_pictures/Non-photographic_media . I'd love to hear your thoughts on the change. Bawolff (talk) 20:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Replied at COM:VP... --Patrick87 (talk) 20:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
I replied again (Sorry to be pushy on this - If I can get the change reviewed by the end of today or early tomorrow morning, then the changes will go live on monday.) Bawolff (talk) 23:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Request[edit]

Hello, can you please replay to this request? its a bit urgent. Thank you--باسم (talk) 12:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't have the time to resolve this request currently. I'd recommend you to ask User:Hic et nunc (who already replied to the request) on his talk page. His Homewiki is the German Wikipedia and he normally resolves requests promptly. --Patrick87 (talk) 12:37, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, i'll do that--باسم (talk) 17:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Editor @ ar.wiki[edit]

Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 07:24, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Swiss Roundel[edit]

Schau dir ein paar Fotos von F/A-18 an. Keiner hat so ein knallig hellrotes Roundel ([1]), sondern in der offiziellen Farbe Pantone 485 ([2]). --Marineflieger (talk) 14:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Das mag ja sein, allerdings hast du mit deiner Aktion zwei Duplikate erstellt (File:Swiss roundel.svg und File:Swiss Roundel.svg). Dass das keinen Sinn macht siehst du sicher selber ein?
Die Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft hat in ihrem "Corporate Design" als offiziellen RGB-Farbwert (255,0,0) genannt. Dieser wird z.B. für Online-Dokumente (was Wikipedia ja schlussendlich ist) genutzt. Für Druckerzeugnisse kommt hingegen der Pantone-Wert 485 zum Einsatz oder CMYK (0,100,100,0). Eine Umrechnung ist nicht immer möglich weshalb auch viele andere Entsprechungen Verwendung finden. Dass es mit dem "Schweizer Rot" nicht so einfach ist zeigt auch der Artikel zu Fahne und Wappen der Schweiz.
In jedem Fall brauchen wir keine zwei identischen Versionen der selben Datei. Ich würde dich bitten das auf sinnvolle Weise aufzulösen, da du meinen Versuch ja direkt wieder revertiert hast ohne auch nur zwei Minuten darüber nachzudenken... --Patrick87 (talk) 15:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Du hast recht, ich bin sackdumm und du blitzgescheit. Beide Varianten der Datei (roundel und Roundel) gab es schon vor meiner Anpassung, beide Varianten werden verwendet. Wenn du eine der beiden löschen willst, dann tue das. Aber es geht in kein Kuh-Hirn, dass eine Farbe verwendet werden soll, die in der Realität so nicht auf den Flugzeugen ist. --Marineflieger (talk) 15:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Du solltest wohl etwas an deiner Kritikfähigkeit arbeiten...
Falls du mal aufmerksam die Dateihistorie angeschaut hättest, wäre dir vielleicht aufgefallen, dass ich die "hellrote" Version erst gestern hochgeladen habe, mit dem Ziel eine Version mit korrekten Maßen bereitzustellen (die zweite Version war nämlich fehlerhaft und wurde erst nachträglich aktualisiert). Während wir über die Farben gerne hätten reden können, sehe ich wortwörtlich rot (den Farbton kannst du dir selber aussuchen) wenn jemand stur Duplikate erstellt um unabgesprochen seine persönliche Auffassung der "Wirklichkeit" durchzuprügeln. --Patrick87 (talk) 16:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Und du am Umgangston. Das Duplikat (mit der falschen Farbe aber dem richtigen 7/6-Verhältnis) wurde tatsächlich nicht von mir erstellt. Soweit, so gut. Und dass Wikipedia die Realität abzubilden hat und nicht deine Privatmeinung über die Umwandlung von Pantone in Hex, wird dir sicher auch bald einleuchten. Ein Foto vom real existierenden Roundel habe ich dir geliefert. --Marineflieger (talk) 16:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Wie man in den Wald ruft... Wenn du eine Konversation mit doppelter Revertierung beginnst erwartest du hoffentlich nicht, dass ich noch stinkfreundlich bin, oder? Ansonsten geht es hier mit Sicherheit nicht um meine Privatmeinung, sondern um die Wahrung enzyklopädischer Qualitätsmaßstäbe. Den Farbwert, den du nun verwendest, finde ich bisher nur im verlinkten Wikipediaartikel (mit einer Referenz die nicht mehr erreichbar ist). Überall sonst werden andere Farbwerte angegeben. Ich bin ziemlich sicher, dass er schlicht falsch ist. Insofern handelt es sich wohl eher um deine Privatmeinung. Oder hast du eine belastbare Quelle dafür, dass du ausgerechnet diesen Farbwert verwendet hast? Ein Foto ist übrigens eine denkbar schlechte Vorlage, wenn es darum geht Farbwerte verlässlich zu rekonstruieren. --Patrick87 (talk) 16:58, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Nein, ich erwarte nicht dass du freundlich bist. Von dir nicht. Du suchst eine offizielle Referenz für den Pantone-Wert 485? --Marineflieger (talk) 17:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Eine offizielle Referenz wird es nicht geben, da eine exakte Umrechnung nicht möglich ist. Aber zumindest eine vernünftige Farbwahl mit verifizierbarer Referenz wäre wünschenswert... --Patrick87 (talk) 17:28, 11 January 2014 (UTC) P.S. Ich erwarte auch von dir nicht, dass du freundlich bist, aber unverschämt brauchst du nicht werden!
Aber gerne doch ([3]). --Marineflieger (talk) 17:31, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Zitat aus deiner Quelle: "CMYK 0 / 100 / 100 / 0", "RGB 255 / 0 / 0", sowie "Hexadezimal #FF0000". Damit wäre dreimal bestätigt, dass die ursprüngliche "knallig hellrote" Version korrekt war.
Vorausgesetzt wir ignorieren das und gehen vom Pantone-Wert "Pantone 485 C / 485 U" aus: An welcher Stelle liest du heraus, dass dieser in RGB als (171,39,32) bzw. #ab2720 dargestellt werden sollte? --Patrick87 (talk) 17:46, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Du wolltest eine Referenz für Pantone 485, jetzt hast du sie. Die Umwandlung habe ich aus der Farbbibliothek von Photoshop. (Der von dir freundlicherweise verlinkte Wikipedia-Artikel kommt auf denselben Wert). --Marineflieger (talk) 17:58, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Nein, ich wollte eine Referenz für den RGB-Farbwert, den du im SVG eingetragen hattest. Ich denke das war deutlich. Hast du in Photoshop das korrekte Farbprofil eingestellt? Ich bezweifle es ehrlich gesagt. Photoshop verwendet üblicherweise ein eigenes Farbprofil. Hier müssen wir hingegen sRGB verwenden. Bitte kontrolliere das noch mal, andernfalls würde ich nämlich die Farbe bevorzugen die in File:Flag of Switzerland (Pantone).svg verwendet wird (#D52B1E; das ist die Farbe, die z.B. auf der offiziellen Website von Pantone als Repräsentation für 485 C verwendet wird). Alternativ den Farbwert den viele der Online-Tabellen ausspucken (#D81E05) oder aber dessen reinrote Entsprechung (#D80000), welche z.B. in File:Flag of Switzerland - 2.svg verwendet wird und am Bildschirm sehr viel ansprechender aussieht. --Patrick87 (talk) 18:24, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Ich habe noch nachgefragt, ob du eine Referenz für Pantone 485 willst. Mach was du willst, mir scheissegal. Solange es nicht hellrot ist. Und nein, es muss nicht "ansprechend" aussehen. Es muss stimmen. --Marineflieger (talk) 18:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, aber wenn du mich unbedingt falsch verstehen willst, dann kann ich dir auch nicht helfen... Ich habe den Eindruck, dass das hier sowieso zu nichts mehr führt. Auf der einen Seite ist es dir "scheissegal" und auf der anderen "muss [es] stimmen"? Wie passt das denn zusammen? Fakt ist, dass man Pantone 485 nunmal nicht in RGB umrechnen kann. Es wird also nie zu 100% stimmen solangege du mit der offiziell empfohlenen Repräsentation im RGB-Farbsystem (#FF0000) nicht einverstanden bist. --Patrick87 (talk) 18:49, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Picture of the Year 2013 R1 Announcement[edit]

Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open![edit]

2012 Picture of the Year: A pair of European Bee-eaters in Ariège, France.

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Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. These images include professional animal and plant shots, breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historical images, photographs portraying the world's best architecture, impressive human portraits, and so much more.

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Template:How to transfer/i18n[edit]

I don't know how you did it, but you managed to make these pages worse (i.e., changing the text into English when it was originally in the host language), and I'm not able to revert it. Please fix your changes. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Magog, I am just in this very moment in the progress of migrating the translations. At least a little patience would be nice. Thanks for blaming me when I actually tried to help and improve translations! Next time I might just leave it to nobody again... --Patrick87 (talk) 18:01, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

I read what you said, but your response was somewhat defensive, so I didn't say anything else. Also, it seems that ping does not work if you hide it in a display:none span. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:05, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, actually I hoped for some kind of answer from your side, especially since your initial message wasn't very warm in the first place. If you can't bring yourself to offer an apology then let me at least now if you're content with the outcome. Otherwise I don't know if my work was appreciated at all. --Patrick87 (talk) 00:49, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

FWIW, I'm sorry. Also, I'm not particularly happy with the outcome because it leaves the words "CommonsHelper" and "files" untranslated. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:11, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Well this can be easily changed (but you have to talk to me!).
  • Since "CommonsHelper" is a proper name I did not consider it to be translatable but forget about transliterations. I'll fix that.
  • The word "files" can of course be included into the translation, too. You have to explain to me however, how this word will ever be visible when using the template? I considered the specification of a filename as mandatory. If you don't give a file name substituting the template will result in a section header with an empty link (the relevant template code reads == [[:{{{1}}}]] ==). How did you ever use this template without a filename? Should we change the template code to only generate a section header when a filename is given?
Anyway my efforts already gained us two and a half new translations. Not so bad considered the template was only translated into two single languages before... Maybe you think about that, too (since I still have the feeling you're a little peeved) --Patrick87 (talk) 01:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

What else do you want me to say or do? Do you want me to get down on my knees and kiss your bare ass as an apology? I'm sorry if I came across as rude. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, come on! I want you just to answer my questions above (nothing else at this point!) — and I want to help! You're the one mainly using the template (if anybody else does at all) and you're doing a great job at guiding people. I thought we might be doing even better if the template was translated into more languages. Now I did everything to the best of my knowledge, and I'm willing to fix everything remaining exactly the way you want, but I need to know what it is you actually want. Right now I'm seeing a grumpy old Ogre whose not of that much help. If you got my last post wrong I'm sorry (it wasn't intended to sound reproachful at all) and I hope we can figure out how to solve what's left to be solved. --Patrick87 (talk) 02:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, I do admit I've been tremendously grumpy of late, moreso than normal. Sorry about that; no excuses.

Yes, I definitely appreciate the translation into many languages; I don't know why more people don't use the template, which has caused it to remain mostly untranslated, often causing problems.

Now that you point it out, I think we can remove the whole File business. The transliteration of CommonsHelper might be good. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:44, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Translation template is updated. I hope it works as intended now. --Patrick87 (talk) 21:35, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Request for feedback on my GSoC'14 proposal[edit]

Hi Patrick87,

I am planning to work on the project titled "Tools for mass migration of legacy translated wiki content" this summer under Google Summer of Code. I have drafted a proposal for the same over the past few weeks. This project is going to help the translation adminstrators like you in a great way, as it would completely automate the tedious manual task of preparing a page for translation and then importing the translations into the Translate extension. You can check the proposal page for detailed information on how I plan to accomplish this.

As you would be an end user of this tool, it would be great if you could go through the proposal and provide feedback/suggestions. Your feedback would definitely help me improve the proposal as well help in creating an even better tool. You can do the same on the discussion page of the proposal or reply here, whichever is convenient for you. I look forward to hearing from you! Thank you!

P.S: I need to submit the proposal to Google by March 19, 2014.

BPositive (talk) 13:47, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Validation[edit]

We have been using the talk-page of Sarang all the time and he kept telling us that he knew only the basics, so I thought it wise to discuss things here with you. When trying to validate Adobe Illustrator-files, Optimized SVG doesn't work completely. I get error-messages. I will repeat here what I have also said on Sarang's page. Can you write a tutorial on this matter? Regards, Wereldburger758 (talk) 10:54, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Actually Sarang is an SVG expert (only not familiar with Inkascape/Illustrator), so I don't think it was much of a problem for him. To optimize SVGs you don't necessarily need to know the tools (it only makes things a little easier at times), since as long as you understand SVG code you can optimize it much more efficiently by hand than with any tool... However if you want we can continue here, although I'd favour to keep discussion at one place where everyone can participate (it seems we all had Sarangs talk page on our watchlist somehow, maybe also COM:Graphics village pump).
Regarding Illustrator I can only help partially, since I don't own (and don't want to own) Illustrator. I often happen to stumble over the crap (sorry, but there's no other way to call it) Illustrator produces when exporting to SVG and normally I don't have any issues to make it work in Inkscape / optimize it / make it standard conformant. If you have some example files which you want a "default optimization scheme" for, I can have a look at it. But I don't know something universally workable by heart right know. Actually, like Sarang, I prefer to just do the "fine tuning" by hand where the effort is justifiable, which you can't put into a tutorial though (unless you want a very comprehensive tutorial Face-wink.svg). --Patrick87 (talk) 14:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

POTY Übersetzung[edit]

Hallo Patrick,
leider habe ich noch nicht gesehen, wie man beim Übersetzen kommentieren kann (und wenn ich etwas überprüfe bzw. ändere wäre das fair). Daher hier kurz eine Erklärung für ein paar meiner Änderungen (nicht das sie mir besonders wichtig sind):

  • den Doppelpunkt nach den gebrochenen Rekorden finde ich etwas schwierig, nachdem es der zweite in Folge ist (das Verkünden der Ergebnisse endet auch schon mit einem)
  • ich glaube, man stimmt über etwas ab oder stimmt für etwas - aber vielleicht täusche ich mich (es kommt zweimal vor - du hast es jetzt im zweiten Satz geändert) - daher meine Änderungen zu gestimmt

Ganz liebe Grüße und danke für's fleißige Übersetzen, Anna reg (talk) 18:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC) (das mit dem Beistrich stimmt wohl, ich mache es nur selber viel... ;->)

Hallo Anna, da hast du natürlich in beiden Punkten recht. Das mit dem Doppelpunkt hatte ich noch gar nicht bemerkt (ich habe den Strich wieder eingebaut, weil mir nichts besseres eingefallen ist; gefallen tut's mir noch nicht). Das mit der Präposition beim Abstimmen macht auch Sinn (wichtig war mir nur, dass über die/mehrere Bider abgestimmt wurde und eben nicht für ein einzelnes Bild gestimmt wurde.
Danke für die Korrekturen! Wenn ich noch irgendwo etwas kaputt repariert habe gerne auch wieder zurück ändern, so funktioniert schließlich die Wikipedia und viele Augen sehen mehr als zwei. Kommentare kannst du schreiben, wenn du die Seite der Übersetzung direkt bearbeitest (also z.B. Translations:Commons:Picture of the Year/2013/Results/R2/msg/30/de). Ist aber natürlich total umständlich und nicht wirklich praxistauglich (mache ich selbst auch nur wenn ich über meine Beobachtungsliste/Beitragsliste direkt auf die Seite der Übersetzung gelange). Manchmal ist es aber durchaus praktisch wenn man seine Änderungen kurz kommentieren kann. Vielleicht kann man das ja irgendwann sogar mal direkt in die Oberfläche der "Translate" Erweiterung einbauen, ich schau mich mal auf Bugzilla um ob's bereits eine Feature-Request gibt. --Patrick87 (talk) 19:17, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Die Kommentier-Möglichkeit über die direkte Bearbeitung kenn ich, aber auf die kommt man beim Überprüfen nicht so leicht. Wenn du weißt, wo man einen Feature-Request finden oder anregen kann, dann bitte mach das! Zurücksetzen/zurückändern ohne Kommentar würde ich nur machen, wenn ich mir sicher bin, dass die andere Möglichkeit nicht passt - sonst find ich anschreiben und fragen leichter... ;->
Schönen Abend noch, Anna reg (talk) 21:46, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Gibt tatsächlich einen Feature-Request zu Bearbeitungs-Kommentaren bei Übersetzungen (bugzilla:46924) und auch sowas wie die Möglichkeit Diskussionen zu einer Übersetzung führen zu können wird gewünscht (bugzilla:45831). Sieht aber nicht so aus, als ob auch nur eines davon in naher Zukunft implementiert wird. Bleibt also wohl bis auf weiteres wirklich nur die persönliche Kontaktaufnahme auf der Benutzerseite (ist ja aber auch nett Face-wink.svg). --Patrick87 (talk) 00:17, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Danke für's nachschauen. Liebe Grüße, Anna reg (talk) 11:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

English version of File:Mh370infografik.svg?[edit]

Patrick,

Are you interested in making an English version of File:Mh370infografik.svg? I also want to have someone make a version in Mandarin so I may put it up on the Graphic Request board and have another Wikipedian supply the translations

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 11:30, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Sure, it's in the pipeline, I just did not get to it yet. I'll create a version using the new <switch> translate mechanism so someone with knowledge of Mandarin just has to put in the translations. I'll ping you as soon as the image is ready for translation. --Patrick87 (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much :) WhisperToMe (talk) 13:13, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi WhisperToMe, the English translation is now ready! Please check if the translation is correct. Regarding translation to Mandarin the person willing to do the translation can either put it directly into the file him/herself or (since this specific files structure might be a bit hard to understand) provide only the translated strings. In the latter case just ping me and I'll add the translation. --Patrick87 (talk) 17:53, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

In the translation: Instead of launch I would say "Takeoff from Kuala Lumpur (KLIA) 00:41" and instead of touchdown: "scheduled landing in Beijing (PEK) 06:30" - "Launch" and "Touchdown" AFAIK are more used for space shuttles. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:52, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

File:EmbryonicBrain CAT.svg[edit]

Hi, Patrick!

You has been requested to delete my translation of your file File:EmbryonicBrain.svg. I use InkScape, I'd make from simplest drawings (Flow volume loop) to complex (Biliary system or Kidney).

It exists any (easy) system or procedure for to create a multilingual file as EmbryonicBrain.svg?. I'd read Multiple translations within one SVG file, but in this section only exists the theory and the link http://translatesvg.wmflabs.org/ doesn't work.

Thanks.

--Jmarchn (talk) 05:19, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jordi: First of all I hope you're aware that the deletion request is not at all about the quality of the image. I'm only of the opinion that we do not need two nearly identical versions of the same file so I filed this deletion request to do some "housekeeping".
Regarding multilingual SVGs: This is basically a "bleeding edge" feature (support in MediaWiki itself was added not long ago) and I'm somehow a pioneer in the creation of such SVGs. Sadly there's no software available (at least none that I'm aware of) that would allow to easily change the translations.
  • Inkscape supports switch statements but will only show one localization (depending on the language you set in preferences). Other languages are only visible in Inkscape's XML editor or after changing the language in Inkscape and restarting (both not really workable solutions).
  • Personally I do this kind of translations using a simple text editor (Notepad++ in my case but it doesn't really matter). If you know how SVGs work this is a very easy solution since it's basically copy and paste to create a new translation.
  • In the long run we will have a beautiful UI for translation of SVGs provided by the extension TranslateSvg. This will be directly available from each file description page and will allow every user to easily translate SVGs without any software or knowledge regarding the creation of SVGs needed (the broken link was basically a beta installation of MediaWiki with this extension enabled – I dont't know if an when it will be available again). When this extension will be available on Commons is however highly dependent on how much of his free time the developer Jarry1250 is able to spend (so it won't be done by tomorrow already Face-wink.svg).
Hope this helps, --Patrick87 (talk) 11:12, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Sag mal Patrick, kannst du dazu nicht was an prominenter Stelle schreiben oder ist das ganze noch nicht Spruchreif? Unter HELP:SVG steht hüben wie drüben nichts. Grüße PS: I've made another step Category:SVG multilingual -- Perhelion (talk) 10:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Perhelion!
  • Bezüglich Hilfeseiten: Erwähnen könnte man das Ganze sicher. Auf Commons haben wir bereits Commons:Translation possible/Learn more. Das wird von HELP:SVG aus zumindest schonmal verlinkt, besser bewerben könnte man es aber sicher. Auf dewiki haben wir tatsächlich noch gar nichts dazu stehen.
    Die einzigen Bedenken die ich derzeit hätte die Übersetzung mittels <switch> and die große Glocke zu hängen, sind dass bislang eben keine Software gibt, mit der man die Übersetzung "Oma"-freundlich erledigen könnte (siehe Text oben). Um einen Texteditor und ein zumindest fundamentales Verständnis der XML-Struktur von SVGs kommt man also nicht herum.
  • Bezüglich Kategorisierung: Über die automatische Kategorisierung von {{translate}} haben wir schonmal die halbe Miete. Manuelle Kategorisierung sollte also nicht nötig sein. Ob Category:Translation possible - SVG (switch) dann noch in zusätzlichen Kategorien auftauchen soll überlasse ich dir. Als wirklich nötig sehe ich es jedoch nicht an, insbesondere da der ganze Kategoriebaum Category:SVG by language sowieso nicht gut gepflegt aussieht und "multilingual" der angedachten Kategorisierung dieser Kategorie sogar entgegenläuft (denn welche Sprachen enthalten sind, wird dann ja trotzdem nicht klar).
Zeitlich bin ich derzeit leider etwas eingeschränkt, weshalb ich wohl eher nicht dazu komme an den Hilfeseiten zu schrauben. --Patrick87 (talk) 22:03, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Translation[edit]

Please take a look here. Best regards. --Angelus(talk) 11:56, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

markAdmins[edit]

MarkAdmins wurde mittlerweile zu einem Gadget umgebaut, daher sollte es über die Einbindung in User:Patrick87/common.js nicht mehr funktionieren. Du kannst es allerdings in den Einstellungen wieder aktivieren. --Didym (talk) 12:39, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Danke für die Info! Ist umgestellt. --Patrick87 (talk) 13:05, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
+1 - man lernt nie aus - manche Gadgets schleichen sich unmerklich ein. ;) --Maxxl2 - talk 13:11, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Übrigens bietet Popups.js vergleichbares in performsnterer Weise (bei mehr Informationen). Perhelion     14:08, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Du meinst Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups? Das geht doch aber nur beim hovern, oder? Mir geht's vor allem um den schnellen Überblick, z.B. in der Versionsgeschichte. --Patrick87 (talk) 14:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Richtig, deshalb immer aktuell und performant ohne Wartung (IMO auch objektiver als wenn da nur Admin oder so steht). :-P Gut, jeder wie er's brauch. Ein schönen Tag Perhelion     10:12, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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