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File wrongly nominated for deletion

Hi, Saibo, other user nominated the file File:Basile_1966rac.jpg for deletion, which I consider incorrect because the picture was published in 1966 and therefore copyright does not apply. I gave my reasons at the nomination page Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Basile_1966rac.jpg so I thought you could help to close the discussion if possible. Best. Fma12 (talk) 06:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Please wait until someone closes it. And this usually doesn't happen until the discussion has come to and end / a conclusion. Please discuss and just wait. A DR on a file is nothing bad. Wish you a successful 2012! --Saibo (Δ) 18:31, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your comment. I share your opinion because I don't want to discuss further with a person who has not read the Law 11.723 but tags files anyway. I'm sure enough that the file is free and able to be uploaded to commons, so I will let things happen. Thanks again and happy 2012 !! Best, Fma12 (talk) 23:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:User talk

Hi! Please, could you add the German language to this template {{User talk}}? Thanks a lot and best regards! Angelus (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Angelus! Done. However, I do not see much use in such a bloated general template with much redundant (and not useful to most people) text. Btw: Did you know Template:Requested_translations? You can request translations there. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 03:12, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
No, I wasn't aware of the existence of this page! Thank you very much! :-D Best regards. --Angelus (talk) 15:07, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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Centralized discussion: re

Ja, de-n schon, aber zwischen haeufiger Muedigkeit und fehlender Uebung faellt mir Uebersetzung ins deutsche schwer. Andersrum ist viel einfacher... Uebrigens, RFC ist nicht so eine en.wp Erfindung - es kommt aus der Computertechnik. Siehe (hm, Ironie...?) en:Request for Comments. Rd232 (talk) 01:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Also de-n, aber eigentlich doch eher de-2? ;-) Wie auch immer, ja, wenn es dir zu schwer fällt, klar, dann belasse es bei Englisch.
Ja, ich kenne RFC sehr wohl aus der IT, aber bis zu deiner Aktion (war das irgendwo abgesprochen?) nicht in Commons. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 01:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
de-2 ... aua. RFC war abgesprochen bei Commons:VPR#Requests_for_comment.2FUser_conduct. Rd232 (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Hehe, Spaß muss sein. Nagut, dann de-3 ;-) Danke für den Link. "I know some users are not keen on using en.wp as a model" - Yep, inded. I las den Abschnitt noch nicht mal. Und es sei angemerkt, dass alle, die PRO stimmten aus enwp waren. So als Denkanstoß. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 01:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Hm, die letzten 3 sind Commons admins. Egal, ich dachte die Sache ist schlimmstenfalls Zeitverschwendung fuer mich, und ansonsten harmlos. Rd232 (talk) 01:38, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Ja, das stimmt. Dennoch, der Faktenlage nach ein klarer Bias. Wie auch immer: ich finde es gut, dass du sich so um Prozessverbesserung bemühst, wenn auch in meinen Augen manchmal zu energisch/schnell. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 01:41, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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File:Instrumento musical Kalimba.jpg

Hei Saibo, das Instrument ist rechts an einem Nagel aufgehängt und hängt momentan mit der Schwerkraft nach links herunter. Das kann doch so nicht passen, oder? --Geitost diskusjon 04:01, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Hej Geitost! Na gut, also wenn das Federzeugs eine Aufhängung sein soll, so sah ich es als Laie nicht, dann gern - wenn du dir da recht sicher (oder so) bist. Was mich mittlerweile an dem Bild und vielen anderen der selben Quelle stört, ist, dass die Bilder dort keine Lizenzen haben... Mal sehen, was ich da noch herausfinde. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 04:06, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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Bilderraten Teil 2

Rapskuchenpellets

Hei Saibo, du kennst dich doch aus. Warum wird dieses Bild, das der Bot nicht drehen konnte, unten auf der Dateiseite File:Rape cake.jpg als Miniatur verdreht dargestellt, aber eingebunden nicht? Finde ich ziemlich unlogisch. Wo ist da nun wieder der Wurm drin?

Außerdem denke ich, dass File:Linum perenne 'Perennial Flax' (Linaceae) leaf.JPG kopfsteht, da die Pflanzen nun nach unten zu wachsen scheinen, aber das Originalbild sieht so aus wie vor der Drehung bzw. wie das untere Bildchen in der Dateiseite. So könnte es auch sein, dann wäre der Schatten rechts vielleicht der von einem Baum oder so. Das Grünzeugs würde dann nicht hoch-, sondern irgendwo rauswachsen. ;-) In jedem Fall sieht es jetzt verdreht aus. --Geitost diskusjon 13:47, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Geitost! Und ich dachte Rapskuchen wäre ein Öko-Kuchen. ;-) Die Miniaturen in der Dateihistorie sind wohl noch alt. Wieso die früher verdreht dargestellt wurden, weiß ich nicht. Vielleicht hat die Datei Fehler in den Metadaten. Irgendwann sollten die kleinen Miniaturen auch aufrecht stehen.
Das zweite passt, würde ich sagen: Schatten der Blättchen kommt von oben - da wo meist die Sonne ist. Wenn man den Winkel der Blätter zum Stamm mit File:Linum_perenne_'Perennial_flax'_(Linaceae)_plant.JPG vergleicht, dann scheint das Ding aber etwas wenig gegossen zu sein. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 14:55, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Nach etwas herumpurgen sind die kleinen Miniaturen dann auch korrekt. --Saibo (Δ) 15:05, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Mmh, bei mir hilft Purgen der Dateiseite jedenfalls nicht, immer noch verdrehte Minis. Oder purgt du was anderes?
Wenig gegossen, ja evtl. Die Blätter zeigen beim anderen Bild aber doch nach oben und nicht nach unten wie hier. Außerdem ist der Stamm hierbei oben dicker, oder? Spricht beides dafür, dass es andersrum wächst, also momentan nach unten. ;-) Beim Original wirkt der Schatten eigentlich am richtigsten, Sonne von oben und so. ;-) Also ich weiß ja nich … --Geitost diskusjon 15:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Du hast nun vielleicht noch die kleinen Minis im Browsercache. Purgen sollte eigentlich für alle gelten.
Wenig gegossen, daher schlaffe Blätter, die nicht mehr stehen (Viagra oder Wasser muss her). Ja so seitlich schauts auch recht gut aus. Wieso auch immer die seitlich wachsen.... So war das Bild übrigens auch zwei Jahre nach dem Upload und durch EXIF ist hier nichts falsch geworden - gibts hier ja nicht. Ich sags mal so: mir wurscht! ;-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 15:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Ja, du hattest Recht, diesmal lag's dann am Cache. Purgen ging hier nicht, hab's dann noch mal neu im Browser geladen, nu ist's hier auch wieder richtig.
Beim Vergleich der Pflanze mit anderen Bildern wächst sie schon recht oft seitlich: Linum-perenne-habit.JPG, File:Linum perenne 'Perennial Flax' (Linaceae) plant.JPG, File:Linum perenne 'Perennial flax' (Linaceae) leaves.JPG. Außerdem könnte das auch noch jemand in der Hand halten, da es vom Boden weiter entfernt scheint, sieht man ja nicht so genau. Der dicke, hohe Schatten im Original rechts könnte auch eine stehende Person sein. Ich lass es dann mal besser wieder zum Ausgangszustand zurückdrehen. --Geitost diskusjon 16:09, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Ich habe mal besser "zurückgedreht". Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 16:20, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Jo, thanks. Ich hab sicher noch mehr Rätsel, wenn du magst, dann für nen neuen Abschnitt. ;-) --Geitost diskusjon 16:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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nicht zu drehende, falsch hochgeladene Dateien

Weißt du übrigens zufällig, was mit Dateien, die unter User:Umherirrender/EXIF rotation gelistet, aber eindeutig richtig herum gedreht sind wie zum Beispiel File:IHYWYP.jpg, noch irgendwas passieren soll? Denn sie stimmen ja nun alle nicht mit dem Original überein. Oder kann ich die eindeutigen Fälle einfach so aus der Seite herausnehmen ohne weitere Maßnahme? Ich hab das bislang einfach erst mal alles dringelassen. Betrifft zurzeit schon mal alle übrig gebliebenen Bilder im 8. und 9. Abschnitt (ich habe im 9. Abschnitt einige fertige Abschnitte zusammengefasst). Ich denke, in den beiden Abschnitten muss gar nichts mehr gedreht werden. Das scheint so alles richtig zu sein, stimmt aber jeweils nicht mit dem Originalupload überein. Gibt es dafür irgendein Clean-up oder war's das damit? Sonst könnten alle klar richtig gedrehten ja einfach raus und die nicht ganz eindeutigen Fälle lässt man noch etwas stehen. --Geitost diskusjon 16:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Die, die richtig in den Minaturen (zur Sicherheit die Minatur im Rotate-Script ansehen, macht nämlich einen purge) sind, können raus. Wenn sie in der 100%-Ansicht nicht richtig sind, dann liegt das daran, dass die physikalisch gedreht gespeichert sind, aber durch die EXIF-Angaben korrigiert werden - so wie das alle Fotokameras machen. Die 100%-Ansicht wird richtig werden, wenn dieser Fehler gefixt ist. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 17:14, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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I Volunteer!

Saibo - Yes, I volunteer for the Graphic Lab when it gets so bad you need code written de novo. I would guess that most all of the animations require code. Feel free to give me a job on my Talk Page. From my Users Page, you should be able to see topics that I can handle. Doug youvan (talk) 16:45, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Doug, yes, very nice! I had a look at Commons:Picture requests but couldn't find animation requests. There are some animation requests at meta:Philip_Greenspun_illustration_project/Requests - but I do not know if those are of the kind you can do. Also I do not know if they have been fulfilled in the meantime. I am sorry, I do not want to start another project (looking for tasks for you) - I am quite busy. If you get no replies at Commons:Graphics_village_pump#Happy_to_Help_Out_on_Custom_Programs_-_especially_for_Pseudocolor then post to COM:VP or maybe better at en:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab) (I am sure we could need animations somewhere) - but since there are all kinds of users (not just "nerds") a short description of what you can do would be helpful. Hope this has helped a bit at least. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 17:10, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
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alte Briefe von de:Antonio Guzmán Blanco, Lizenz

Hei Saibo, hoffentlich stört es dich nicht, wenn ich dich mit verschiedenen Fragen quäle. ;-) Hier eine neue: Venezuelas Präsident Blanco starb laut Artikel 1899, womit alles, was er so fabriziert hat, ja nun gemeinfrei sein sollte. Das sollte dann auch für seine Briefe gelten. Die scheinen aber alle keine Lizenz zu haben, sodass sie wie beim gerade gedrehten File:Letter1FromBlanco.jpg mit {{no license}} markiert werden. Der Brief File:Letter2FromBlanco.jpg wurde deshalb schon letzte Tage gelöscht, mindestens File:Letter1Closeup.JPG und File:LetterFromGuzmanBlanco.jpg haben auch keine Lizenzvorlage, sind alles Dateien des Benutzers Socceteer, auch die gelöschte. File:FernandoAdamesTorres.jpg demgegenüber ist aber in der Public Domain (guck mal da rein, da stimmt irgendwelcher Vorlagencode nicht). Da die Briefe 2-dimensional sind, sind es ja dargestellte Werke, somit müsste mMn auch die {{own}}-Vorlage falsch sein und Socceteer darf eh nicht die Lizenz selbst frei auswählen. Damit hätte sich das Löschen dann auch erübrigt, da das alles {{PD-old-100}} sein müsste. Damit sollte auch die gelöschte Datei wieder hergestellt werden. Oder siehst du das anders? Außerdem verstehe ich nicht, warum der Uploader nicht über die bevorstehende Löschung bzw. den Mangel informiert wird, wenn das schon per Bot getaggt wird, sondern Bot-Benachrichtigung nur wegen mangelnder Kats erfolgt; Löschung ist doch gravierender als fehlende Kats. Sollte man da nicht immer auch benachrichtigt werden? Das ist alles sehr merkwürdig und irritierend; bei eigenen LAs wird man ja auch aufgefordert, den Uploader zu benachrichtigen. Ist das so üblich hier bei mangelnden Infos, dass selbst uralte Dinge plötzlich gelöscht werden ohne jegliche Benachrichtigung darüber? Viele Grüße --Geitost diskusjon 13:45, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Hab inzwischen bei File:FernandoAdamesTorres.jpg mal ein paar falsche Angaben gefixt, aber eigentlich ist es ja nicht sicher, dass der unbekannte Fotograf (Quelle fehlt ja auch, „own“ passt ja nicht) zwingend schon bis Ende 1941 gestorben war, wenn er das Foto z. B. erst 1910 oder kurz vorher gemacht hat, Torres sieht ja schon recht alt darauf aus. Muss dieses Bild hier nun gelöscht werden, da die Lizenzvorlagen ja nicht wirklich passen und de:Vorlage:Bild-PD-alt-100 nicht dasselbe ist wie Template:PD-old-100, es also keine Vorlage für alte Bilder gibt, die vor 1911 gemacht wurden? Dann sollte man es nach de: übertragen. Den Satz des Uploaders „Family picture that can be shared for public domain“ im Zusammenhang mit der PD-Lizenz verstehe ich auch nicht, was hat ein Familienbild mit der Lizenz zu tun? Ist er Erbe des Fotografen, der ja als er selbst angegeben wurde, was ja nicht passen kann? 3 wohl ähnliche Porträtbilder sind laut Disk. auch schon gelöscht worden (alle wg. fehlender Lizenzen), sind die denn nun alle auf de:, wenn die Lage da ähnlich war?

NB: Dieser Unterschied bei gleich benannten Vorlagen ist übrigens nicht gerade optimal, evtl. sollte man die de-Vorlage mal umbenennen, um Missverständnisse dabei zu vermeiden. --Geitost diskusjon 14:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Jetzt ist auch die 2. Datei gelöscht worden. Versteh ich nicht. Das sind doch alte Briefe, warum sollen die nun kein Fall für PD-old-100 sein? Nun sind nur noch 2 solche Briefe übrig: Special:ListFiles/Socceteer. Da sind doch die Rechte längst abgelaufen, wo doch der Urheber bereits 1899 gestorben ist. Warum wird so was hier trotzdem mehrfach gelöscht? Dann könnte man das doch zumindest nach de: exportieren, wenn hier irgendwie strengere Public-Domain-Kriterien herrschen, wo es nicht ausreicht, wenn der Urheber (von Briefen) bereits 110 Jahre tot ist. --Geitost diskusjon 16:04, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
So, lieber Geitost - nun habe ich mir den Abschnitt hier dann doch mal endlich vorgenommen.
Wenn der Urheber 1899 gestorben ist, dann sind sie PD-old-100 - ja. Venezuela hat sogar nur 60 Jahre pma. Warum sie gelöscht werden? Nun, weil sie schlicht keine Lizenzvorlage haben - und wenn ein Admin nur wenig Zeit hat, was bei der Masse zwangsweise so ist, dann bleibt auch nicht groß Zeit nachzurecherchieren. Da mache ich dem löschenden Admin keinerlei Vorwurf - als Urheber war der Uploader angegeben - tja nu - offensichtlich ist das aber falsch. Trage soetwas (PD-Lizenzen) nach, wenn du es siehst und entferne am besten auch gleich nolicense, wenn du dir ein wenig sicher bist, dass das so okay ist.
Wieso der Uploader nicht informiert wird, ja, das sollte er eigentlich, macht auch Nikbot eigentlich - aber anscheinend macht er es nur beim Uploader der aktuellen Dateiversion und das ist Rotatebot und der hat ein Bot-Verbot (eben wegen sowas) auf seiner Diskussionsseite. Nikbot sollte den ersten und letzten Uploader benachrichtigen, ja, macht er nicht, und wird auch der Botbetreiber nicht programmieren - er ist kaum noch aktiv.
Was soll bei File:FernandoAdamesTorres.jpg falsch sein, außer dass PD-old-70 nicht wirklich zutrifft, da ja kein Urheber bekannt ist? Ah.. in deinem Nachtrag schreibst du es ja. Richtig, Das sichere Alter ist zu jung, um PD-old-70 anzunehmen. Aber: Fotos sind in Venezuela wohl nur 60 Jahre nach Veröffentlichung geschützt. Commons:CT#Venezuela{{PD-Venezuela}} würde also passen, wenn man annimmt, dass es ein Foto zu Lebzeiten ist.
„Family picture that can be shared for public domain“ könnte meinen, dass er der Erbe ist (fragt sich nur von wem - vom Fotograf? vom Abgebildeten oder doch nur vom Papierbild? ;-) ) und es freigeben mag.
Special:Log/Socceteer - ja, die anderen Dateien wurden wegen fehlender Lizenzvorlage direkt (~1 Woche später) nach dem Upload gelöscht. File:FernandoAdamesTorres.jpg ist übrigens ein reupload of File:GeneralFernandoAdamesTorres.jpg und habe ich nachgebessert.
File:GeneralFernadoAdamesTorres2.jpg ist ein Gemälde ohne jegliche Angaben über das Alter. Urheber ist angeblich Mauricio Adames (nichts). reuploaded as en:File:GeneralFernadoAdames.JPG
File:AdmiralJoseMinosSanti.JPG ist ein Gemälde - ohne Datum und Urheber
File:Letter1FromBlanco.jpg und File:Letter2FromBlanco.jpg sind wiederhergestellt und korrigiert. Bitte prüfe. Liest du als Datum auf dem ersten Brief auch 1872? Das müsste dann noch bei date rein. Beim zweiten weiß ich nicht.
Vorlagen umbenennen - ja, wäre nicht verkehrt die dewp-Vorlage umzubenennen. --Saibo (Δ) 03:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 03:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Hochgeladene Dateien eines Benutzers nach Upload von neuer Version

PS: Außerdem verstehe ich nicht, warum die nun gedrehte und mit „keine Lizenz“ markierte Datei nicht unter den hochgeladenen Dateien des Benutzers gelistet wird. Liegt das an dem anschließenden Neuupload durch den Rotatebot? Auch sehr seltsam. Ich denke, es sollten alle Uploads dort gelistet werden und nicht nur die unveränderten, aktuell verwendbaren Versionen. Andernfalls müssten diese Dateilisten bei Benutzern, wo jetzt viele Dateien gedreht werden mussten, ja unsinnigerweise wesentlich kürzer werden. *kopfkratz* --Geitost diskusjon 14:53, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

So, ich arbeite mich mal langsam durch deinen Fragen-Schwall. ;-)
Ja, das liegt daran. Dort werden nur Dateien aufgelistet, deren aktuelle Version von dem Benutzer ist. Verwende das in der Kopfzeile von Special:ListFiles/Socceteer verlinkte Galerie-Werkzeug, um alle ursprünglich hochgeladenen Dateien zu sehen. Ja, die Dateilisten werden kürzer. Je nach Betrachtungsweise könnte man das als Fehler ansehen - ist vielleicht auch schon gemeldet - vielleicht auch nicht. Aber: es war nie anders, das ist schon immer so. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 18:52, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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Kinderstar

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Thank you very much for your help regarding File:Rosa-Mendes-2011.jpg! :) Starship.paint (talk) 11:19, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, you're welcome! Glad to help. --Saibo (Δ) 18:46, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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Geo Davidson

Hallo, es gibt ein Foto von diesem Herrn auf der ital. WP: [1], die nicht nach Commons übertragen werden darf. In der dt. WP würde das Foto jedoch unter die 1923-er Regeln fallen, oder? Gibt es einen Weg, das Foto in der it WP runterzuladen und mit der richtigen Lizenz in der dt. WP hochzuladen? --Nicola (talk) 16:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Nicola! :-) Hast du die entsprechende Zeitschriftenausgabe? Ansonsten geht de:Vorlage:Bild-PD-alt-1923 nicht. Sieh dir die Vorlage mal genau an. Runter- und hochladen? ja, einfach manuell eben. Erst die volle Auflösung runterladen und dann in dewp hochladen. ;-) PS: wieso schreibst du mich nun zu einem dewp-Thema in Commons an? ;-) Ja, ich weiß, ich bin kompliziert. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:57, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Nein, ich habe die Zeitschriftenausgabe nicht, ich habe das Bild ja nicht hochgeladen, sondern die ist angegeben. Mit dem Thema hast Du recht :) Aber ich war wohl gerade in Commons und habe nicht weiter hingeschaut... --Nicola (talk) 23:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Hehe, macht ja nichts - bis auf, dass ich ":de:" tippen musste. ;-) Ohne in die Zeitschrift zu gucken, ob da ein Autor steht, wird das kaum gehen. Das ist das mindeste. Gute Nacht! --Saibo (Δ) 00:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Das befürchtete ich schon. Schade. Danke, --Nicola (talk) 09:31, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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Deleted. --Saibo (Δ) 23:51, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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Talkback File:Slavko Osterc.jpg

Hi, you may be interested in the new developments at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Slavko Osterc.jpg.   — Jeff G. ツ 23:20, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jeff! Thanks - I still watch it but lagging in watchlist catch-up (currently at 2012-01-14 20:51:39). Quite funny if this should really be true. Maybe we should not trust this library too much - sorry Pieter. ;-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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Einfach mal … und so weiter

Lieber Wikipedia-Adminkollege,

ohne dass es einen konkreten Anlass gäbe, möchte ich an dieser Stelle einfach mal „Danke“ sagen für deine beharrliche Kleinstarbeit hinter dem Bildmaterial, mit dem sich die Projekte schmücken können. Bildrechte sind kompliziert und so wohnt der Verwendung fremder Inhalte hier ein gehöriges Frustrationspotenzial inne. Umso dringlicher braucht es Leute, die nicht nur unsere rechtlichen Maßstäbe durchsetzen, sondern ihr Tun auch auf eine Weise vermitteln, die sich erfrischend vom oberlehrerhaften Duktus an anderen Stellen von Wikipedia abhebt und der wirklich der Versuch innewohnt, Dinge zu erklären, statt bloß abstrakte Richtlinien oder – noch schlimmer – Privatmeinungen mit der Brechstange durchzusetzen.

Beste Grüße, —Pill (talk) 02:52, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Pill, danke sehr, hört man gern, dass die eigene Arbeit geschätzt wird! :-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 14:28, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you

Hi Saibo, I just wanted to tell you that you were right, I should have taken more time to discuss my review plan and its implementation before implementing it. I also want you to know that I greatly value European culture and the many beautiful works that they have produced, and I greatly regret the Supreme Court's recent decision and its deleterious effect on our mission. I really hope once the WMF has given their position, we can strive to find the best way to preserve as many works as possible. Thank you for contributing to the discussion and for reminding me not to rush. Dcoetzee (talk) 00:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dcoetzee, thanks for your message and your bits of understanding at last. I hope we will manage to survive as a community and not get into a nuclear war with the public domain severely damaged and a broken Commons. :-) --Saibo (Δ) 19:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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Pieter Kuiper edit restrictions

As you were involved in the original discussion at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_23#Pieter_Kuiper_.28yes_again.2C_what_a_surprise.29, I'm notifying you of the current discussion of the edit restriction Pieter Kuiper agreed to. See Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Clarify_edit_restriction. Rd232 (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but I was not really involved in the discussion with regards to Southerby's club (or something else). Hence, irrelevant for me. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Fine, I was just notifying everyone who commented. Rd232 (talk) 00:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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File:1027_RockDetente.png

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If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


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Question of Commons talk:Licensing

Ok, I'll do it. But can you please explain why? As I can read, there are other questions & answers on that page regarding copyright. LoStrangolatore (talk) 02:01, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, sorry if that wasn't clear - see on top of the Commons talk:Licensing page. And, yes, there are some other also misplaced questions. COM:VPC is not very old - so people are not used to it. Do you have an improvement idea? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:27, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
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Old version file mover (2)

Hi Saibo. I'm not sure but I think it was you who suggested the bot interface with CommonsHelper. It now does, hopefully more to your liking. Or did you want it to make the upload directly? Cheers. Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:08, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Scroll up: #Old_version_file_mover. ;-) Great - will look at it soon! Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Works nice, thank you! That is saving much time! Improvement possibility: save it automatically - maybe possible: by JS via API? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
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Hilfe bei Commons in spanischer Sprache

Hallo Saibo, ist für mich unverständlich: mit Haubi komme ich da nicht rein (siehe meine Bilder unter Mina La Casualidad). Kannst du mir da helfen? -- Haubi (talk) 06:05, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Haubi! Es gibt kein globales Benutzerkonto „Haubi“. Um das zu ändern, melde dich bitte in der deutschen Wikipedia an, falls du das noch nicht bist, und klicke dann hier: de:Special:MergeAccount (und bestätige eventuell, dass du deine Konten in ein globales Konto zusammenführen willst). Dann melde dich ab und neu an. Ab nun solltest du in jeder Sprachversion der Wikipedia und Commons automatisch angemeldet sein, wenn du es in einer anderen Sprachversion (z.B. Deutsch) bist. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 16:10, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Super, vor 9 Stunden hat es nun geklappt. In der spanischen Wikipedia bist du nun auch automatisch angemeldet. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 18:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
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File:Qualified countires to African Cup of Nations 2012.png

Can you see please the file of Qualified african countires, Morocco's map is not right because Republic of Western Sahara contested yet. Greetings. --Faycal.09 (talk) 18:41, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, how can I help you? I do not understand your request. Regards --Saibo (Δ) 18:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer, the file is about africa geo political map. The problem is that there is a user who associate Western Sahara Republic to Morocco, however United Nations don't recognise that so Morocco map is representing without Western Sahara Rep. We can see exemples of Africa Cup of Nations maps here. Hope that you see the file. Thank you. --Faycal.09 (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I understand. Please do not do further reverts at this file - I would need to protect it otherwise (edit war). We have this problem often at maps. Best solution is to make two versions and let the projects decide which one they like to use. Or is there a official map from the football organization which these maps are about? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 21:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your intervention. I stopped revert of the file. I fear when I put another file in 2012 Africa Cup of Nations, he will revert or he will put again this file. I prefere that it's the administrator who do that. Greetings. --Faycal.09 (talk) 00:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I have put a note on the file page. Also see my suggestion below. --Saibo (Δ) 01:12, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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File:CAN 2012 Qualified Nations.png

Hi Saibo, I have also answered here
A user created this file, however the same person Karakizi destroy the file. Hope that you see that. Greetings. --Faycal.09 (talk) 01:35, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. A tip: If you upload maps of african countries colored please just write in the description what the status of w. sahara in that map will be - then it is totally clear. Regards --Saibo (Δ) 01:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Saibo, I have also answered here
Thank you for all your contributions. Greetings. --Faycal.09 (talk) 17:26, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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File:SquirrelZipolite2.JPG

Hei Saibo, kannste mal nen 2. prüfenden Blick auf diese Datei werfen? Die anderen hab ich ja alle so rum drehen lassen, dass sie wieder mit dem Originalupload übereinstimmen (rotated 0°), nur bei dieser sahen sowohl die Originalversion als auch die verdrehte falsch aus, also steht sie nun gegenüber dem Original kopf. Meinst du, dass es jetzt so richtig ist oder sollte es lieber doch um 180° gedreht werden, sodass das Hörnchen den Baum herunterläuft? Scheint momentan unten der Boden zu sein, aber sicher bin ich mir da nicht. --Geitost diskusjon 02:50, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Geitost! Also ich würde sagen: 180° drehen. Weil: es war nach dem Upload so UND der Schwanz knickt dann am Ende nach unten (Schwerkraft) UND irgendwie sieht es mir natürlicher aus, wenn das Viech den Kopf nach unten hat bei dieser Körperhaltung. Ach: und zur Zeit ists unten im Bild so hell (Himmel). Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 03:03, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Ja, ist schon ziemlich hell unten und der Schwanz – sah so nach Wedeln aus … ich hab auch nicht so genau an den Krallen sehen können, in welche Richtung es sich da festhält. ;-) Ich hatte den Eindruck, hinten rechts wächst irgendwas aus dem Boden. Und diese komischen Stäbe neben dem Baum stehen so auf dem Boden, andersrum hängen die irgendwie in der Luft. Aber wenn du meinst, dreh es wieder rum, ich weiß auch nicht. Dann ist es wenigstens wieder wie am Anfang. Nur: Was hängt dann da alles so komisch herunter? ;-) --Geitost diskusjon 03:25, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
"Wendeln" Squirrels? ;-) Ich würde sagen, dass das Strohdächer (die "hängen" runter) sind und das ist kein Baum, sondern ein Pfahl. ;-) Heiteres Bilderraten.. wir könnten auch den Fotograf fragen. ;-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 03:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
User_talk:AlejandroLinaresGarcia#File:SquirrelZipolite2.JPG_-_orientation.3F --Saibo (Δ) 03:47, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Irgendwie ist hier grad der Wurm drin; der Bot hat sich einfach deinen Beitrag geschnappt, böser Bot. Dann krieg ich den Abschnitt davor bei Klick auf Edit und nu noch BK. Außerdem hängt hier grad wieder alles. Wohl besser ins Bett gehen.
Das mit dem Fragen ist wohl besser(, haste ja nu schon). Oder erst mal bis morgen warten, ob er das Bild auf der Beo entdeckt und sich evtl. wundert oder auch nicht. ;-) Nun ja, bis denne. God natt --Geitost diskusjon 03:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Der Bot erkennt wohl BKs nicht und schreibt seinen Edit einfach drüber. Er holte sich wohl die Seite vor meinem Edit, bearbeitete dann und speicherte dann nach mir ab. Den falschen Abschnitt bekamst du, weil ein Abschnitt archiviert wurde und du aber noch auf der Seitenversion davor warst (die Bearbeitungslinks sind nummeriert). Und BK dann wohl mit mir und meinem Revert bzw. dem Link hier. ;-) Gut Nacht! (übrigens, dem Bot kommt man auch nur nachts in die Quere) ;-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 04:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Möglicherweise versteht Alejandro gar nicht deine Frage, da er wohl nur Englisch spricht: Für engl. Anfragen soll man seine Partnerin anmailen, steht auf der Benutzerseite. Das fänd ich jetzt übertrieben. ;-) Oder die Frage ist einfach bei der weiteren Nachricht auf der Disk. 1 h später untergegangen, denn aktiv war er ja. Na ja, vielleicht ist es ja auch richtig gedreht, wer weiß? Jedenfalls ist das eins der interessanten Rätselbilder hier und jetzt kann man zumindest beide Varianten in Groß direkt nebeneinander vergleichen. :-)

Ich fände es übrigens besser, wenn der Bot nach der letzten Rotationsrunde erst mal ne Pause von 1 bis 2 h einlegen würde (und danach auch die 45 min. Mindestzeit berücksichtigt), dann erstellt er nicht für jede einzelne Drehung wieder ein neues Log 5 min. später, sondern sammelt erst mal ein paar Bilder, denn so viel ist es ja normal täglich nicht, dass es nicht auch so zu schaffen wäre. Ich versuche schon, immer ein paar auf einmal zu taggen, damit er nicht jedes einzeln als Log einträgt (das ist aber etwas umständlicher so). Es ist etwas blöd so, die Versionsgeschichte des Logbuchs wird auch ziemlich unübersichtlich und es sind völlig unnötige zusätzliche Versionen. Viele Grüße --Geitost diskusjon 12:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


keine Antwort von Alejandro - ja, vielleicht versteht er nicht. Egal, lassen wir es so. --Saibo (Δ) 18:47, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

Special Barnstar Hires.png The Special Barnstar
Thank you very much for all your help in IRC. Specially for being so patient and friendly Face-smile.svg. Lcsrns (Talk) 00:52, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
A colorful barnstar! Muchas gracias! :) --Saibo (Δ) 01:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
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Lakhdar Belloumi

Hi Saibo, the article page of Lakhdar Belloumi was deleted on 14 January 2012 first because only one picture. I created again the article with 4 pictures "one picture was deleted :-)" however the 3 pictures are legal sure (pic1, pic2, pic 3). However The article was deleted again on 30 January 2012 and the pic 3 was proposed for deletion without reason! Can you see that please. Greetings. --Faycal.09 (talk) 18:05, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

At all pictures you wrote that you are the photographer - is that true? Please provide where you got the images from (source) and who is the photographer (author). Put in "unknown" if you don't know the photographer. After we know the situation of the images we can talk about the gallery page.
Please also just reply at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Lakhdar Belloumi (champion d'Algérie 1984 - GC Mascara).jpg and tell where you got the image from. Note that we need a publication date for the PD-Algeria copyright tag. --Saibo (Δ) 17:25, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I add a note to the discuss page. I put the picture in Wikimedia on 2010, I have this picture it's more then 15 years. Now I don't remember really a person who gives me the pic and because I have the pic it's more then 15 years, for me I'm like the author, you can see my explain on the discuss page please. Thank you. --Faycal.09 (talk) 18:33, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
The deletion request is closed now. I have made some changes to the file's page - please especially look at source and author field.
Ragarding the gallery page: We already have Category:Lakhdar Belloumi do you think it is useful to have a gallery page in addition? --Saibo (Δ) 18:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you much for your contribution. I ha performed my knowledge of how to use files in Wikimedia these last days because of you. About Lakhdar Belloumi Article page, it's not necessary right, maybe on future if it seems to have many pictures of belloumi :-) Thank you. --Faycal.09 (talk) 19:47, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Nice to hear that my effort to explain are worth it! :-) Please make source and author corrections to pic1 and pic2. If you are not the photographer the author/source and license is wrong. Then I can undelete the gallery page if you want so. Galleries are only better than category pages if there are descriptions and maybe even translation like it is done at Plaridel Airport (German and English). --Saibo (Δ) 18:53, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
That's all right I changed picture 1 and 2, I will try to perform the pictures uploaded by me on future. Thank you. --Faycal.09 (talk) 20:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
I made some small fixes to pic1. However, pic2 does not seem possible to keep here. As you can see on the file page of pic1 photos need to be published before 1987 in Algeria to be public domain. But pic2 is from 1988 at the earliest. Please see Commons:Licensing#Algeria and Commons:Copyright tags#Algeria. Here is the gallery again: Lakhdar Belloumi. Au revoir --Saibo (Δ) 21:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for ameliorating the pic 1, what about the pic 2 yes it's in 1988 and because this I don't put the same license. However I taked this picture from the official website of the club, (I'm member of the site).
Thank you much for recreating the article Lakhdar Belloumi. Au revoir, merci (thank you). --Faycal.09 (talk) 00:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Regarding pic2: yes, you had {{PD-self}} before - but that can only be put on the file page by the photographer. We would need the written permission from the photographer - otherwise we cannot keep the image since it is not public domain yet. Maybe your club knows who the photographer is? --Saibo (Δ) 00:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Saibo, yes I understand your meaning about the picture 2, I will try to get permission but not sure because difficult to find the photographer however I will try.
Sorry to disturb you again but the same user destroy other picture here (made by other user), I don't know how to stop this destroy person. Thank you. --Faycal.09 (talk) 19:09, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Faycal.09, thank you for investigating! I have messaged User talk:Karakizi.. but it did not have fruits. I have protected File:CAN_2012_QF.png now and will write Krakizi again. --Saibo (Δ) 20:55, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome Saibo and thank you for your contribution. --Faycal.09 (talk) 21:59, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Continued at #File:MC Oran (saison 1988 - 1989).jpg. --Saibo (Δ) 13:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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File:MC Oran (saison 1988 - 1989).jpg

previous discussion: #Lakhdar Belloumi Saibo (Δ) 13:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello Saibo, I sended message to a person who put the picture in the site here. Greetings. --Faycal.09 (talk) 14:07, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Note: I cannot see the forum - it is apparently only for registered users. But that is no problem. :-) --Saibo (Δ) 13:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello Saibo, the user of mouloudia.com "ilyes&kouti" autorise me to publicate the picture here. I know you can't see that however i can send you the authorisation in your email. I modify the file too. Greetings. --Faycal.09 (talk) 11:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Faycal.09, is "ilyes&kouti" the photographer of that image? Or why do you think he can authorize the use of this image? Only the photographer or the holder of the copyright (most usually because full copyrights are bought or inherited from the photographer) can issue permissions. You can send me email if needed at Special:EmailUser/Saibo. Best wishes --Saibo (Δ) 15:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

DRed. --Saibo (Δ) 23:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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How to make a link between pictures

Hi Saibo,

In one of the maps I recently modified, you suggested me to create a new picture file then link it to another one. How shall I do to achieve that? Please, bear with me and would you be son kind to explain to me. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacific kiribati (talk • contribs) 2012-02-01T14:37:52‎ (UTC)

You can upload a modified version under a new file name and mention the original file's file name in the source field and in the other versions field of both files. Works like this link: File:Qualified countries to African Cup of Nations 2012.png Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:43, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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modifications in kiribati's map

Hi, I suggest that a administrator intervene in order to choose a neutral map in topic "african football cup 2012", kiribati's map is not neutral, I've presented all my arguments but kiribati insist in warring edition --Karakizi (talk) 15:37, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Karakizi, I am an administrator and I have protected all the files about which the group of three users were edit warring. I do not know which version is correct, probably there is no correct version as some people/countries may see it differently. Also Commons is not about editorial choice - that should be done at the Wikipedia projects. If there is dispute about a map it may be the best solution to just make two versions under different file names - then each Wikipedia project can choose which one to use.
Of course it would be better if you three can come to a agreement - please discuss it on the files' talk pages. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 16:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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File:CAN_2012_QF_2.png

Hi, Last time you've blocked me for 3 days for modifing a map of a user...Can you do the same thing with a user [2] who's changing my map without my agreement? see this :[3], the user's login is Pacific Kiribati Thanks --Karakizi (talk) 11:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Karakizi, thanks for your notice. User is blocked for 3 days. We do not come to a good solution with upload wars - that needs to stop. Maybe you two/three try to discuss that issue? --Saibo (Δ) 14:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
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Note: previous discussion: e.g. #modifications_in_kiribati.27s_map --Saibo (Δ) 14:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Fotothek df rp-c 0370034 Wilsdruff-Limbach. Meßtischblatt^ Sekt. ^, 1880.jpg

Symbol wtf vote.svg WTF? Why did you try to trash this file? It's a reproduction of an old map. Multichill (talk) 22:47, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mr. WTF, nice to see you. ;-) Please read the tag and it's implications again. It is far from "trashing". So please revert your revert without any license clarification. --Saibo (Δ) 23:01, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
no answer? reverted myself ... --Saibo (Δ) 14:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Unbelievable - Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fotothek df rp-c 0370034 Wilsdruff-Limbach. Meßtischblatt^ Sekt. ^, 1880.jpg now --Saibo (Δ) 13:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
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RfCU

Thank you for your support and kind words.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 11:07, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

  :-) Fight the socks!
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African Map used for African Cup of Nations

from de::de:Spezial:Permanenter Link/99459992#African_Map_used_for_African_Cup_of_Nations

Hi Saibo,

You just blocked my IP hindering me from logging onto Wikimedia. Though I understand your decision for doing so, I just felt I shall explain to you the point of disagreement. What led me to cross the limit of edit warring was my try to fix map of africa and make it look like any other map of africa published on wikipedia. As in one of your messages, you pointed out that you could not figure out which map is correct, among many examples, the following ones show that I was just trying to keep things consistent between the "Football African Cup of Nations" wiki page and the rest of Wikipedia. You can see the following maps found on Wikipedia

Africa (orthographic projection).svg
Map of the African Union with Suspended States.svg
Africa 1971-2000 mean precipitation.png
HDImap spectrum2006 Africa.png

.

Moreover, the maps used for the previous "African cup of nations" like 2010 [[4]], 2008 [[5]], 2006 [[6]], 2004 [[7]], 2002 [[8]] etc

On all the maps of africa, western sahara, though being a disputed territory claimed by both de:Morocco and de:RASD, does appear. User Karakizi kept putting a map where western sahara is totally overlapped by morocco. I know this could be seen as a political argument but not only. Indeed, for the sake of consistency on Wikipedia and because politics shall not be mixed with sports, I felt like I should fix this but for some odd reason he kept spoiling the page in spite of exchanging our arguments.

I am not involved in this political dispute between morocco and western sahara, I just wanted to get things coherent and consistent with the rest of Wikipedia. Karakizi did not want to understand it this way and wanted to emphasize his political agenda.

Understood, I will never change any of the maps anymore. I figured it out being pointless and useless.

Thanks for reading me. Best regards, (nicht signierter Beitrag von Pacific kiribati (Diskussion | Beiträge) 17:34, 8. Feb. 2012 (CET))

Hi Pacific kiribati, thanks for your message (which I will move to my Commons talk page in three days; note that I took the freedom to move the thumbs to the standard (right) side for a better visibility of the indention). I appreciate that you think about and understand the problems.
As edit wars to not help anybody (except that we two users being busy reverting each other again and again) please upload other versions of maps of which you know that they will be disputed under a new name and, of course, change the file name in the Wikipedia article. If the old version of the map is that "wrong" that it is not useful please nominate it for deletion and it will be deleted if there is community agreement to do so. Do you see problems with that way?
Another downside if that editwars is that the picture in all Wikipedia articles which use it changes every hour - not really useful. Wikipedia editors should be able to rely on the content from Commons to some extent. That happens if files with edit wars are included in articles: "argh. komplett durcheinander geraten alles. nun die Version ohne Westsahara" (English: argh! everything is completely mixed up here. Now the version without Western Sahara).
If you really do not want to mix politics with sports then there should not be maps with country borders - but in a championship of nations that is inherently the case. I understand your thoughts of continuity between maps of A. cup of nations. Let me question that: should it never ever be allowed then to change a political map displaying the nations which take part? In the case of South Sudan this change is/was probably be done.
I ask you to continue your engagement with maps - but, please, just choose another (more productive) way to do so. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:58, 9. Feb. 2012 (CET)
Fine, I got it. Fair enough to understand though I do not think South Sudan example was a good example. It's a new state and as a consequence it should appear on all the maps as of July 2011. In my humble opinion, there is a difference between updating a map to reflect a new geographic and political reality and create one misleading readers and being inconsistent with the rest of wikipedia.
About, the comment on the article involved (the complete mess), I had a discussion with the writer Hephaion and we sorted things out.
However, I know it was not productive doing so. As I said before, I will not change anyone else's map anymore. Edit wars are pointless and useless anyway. (nicht signierter Beitrag von Pacific kiribati (Diskussion | Beiträge) 10:00, 9. Feb. 2012 (CET))
Yes, of course SS is not comparable to Mor. and W. Sahara - it just was to show that change can happen (yes, it is quite a different change). Note that I have unblocked you in Commons per this discussion. Have a good day! --Saibo (Δ) 17:19, 9. Feb. 2012 (CET)
Thanks for your work. I guess it's a hard task watching wikipedia and some rules (sometimes felt as hard) must be enforced to calm things down :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacific kiribati (talk • contribs) 2012-02-10T10:02:02‎ (UTC)
Thank you! It is not quite easy, indeed. :-) --Saibo (Δ) 13:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
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Lakhdar Belloumi - gallery deleted

Hi Saibo, the same user deleted again the article Lakhdar Belloumi that's was used by you. Hope that you see that. Greetings. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 19:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Faycal! Well, there were only two images in the gallery. Furthermore they did not even had a description. So that gallery is fully redundant to the Category:Lakhdar Belloumi. Please also see his deletion comment and have a look in Commons:Galleries to see what galleries are for. See you --Saibo (Δ) 18:17, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
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Why did you tag my screenshot for deletion?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WebGLScreenShot.png

You tagged this for deletion - despite it being (a) my own work (I both wrote the game, and captured the screenshot) and (b) added the appropriate copyright tags?!?

WTF ?

SteveBaker (talk) 20:41, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mister WTF, I have answered you on the file page. Who took the screenshot does not matter. Just who designed the game matters - fine that you rally are it and that you want to freely license this screenshot. Please follow the steps described in COM:OTRS. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 21:53, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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User:Skydiver777 a Sockpuppet?

Hi Saibo,

I am writing this message just to warn about a possible sock-puppetry, it's just a hypothesis not a fact. User:Karakazi seems to have become User:Skydiver777. The latter has uploaded in wikimedia exactly the same file before the former got blocked by you [[9]]. Moreover, skydiver writes the same sentences and defends exaclty the same POV as Karakazi and only on the same subjects. This is confusing. I am not accusing him of being for sure a sock-puppet but the similarities are astonishing. Just to let you know in order to check if possible. Thanks for your help on wikipedia! Pacific kiribati (talk) 22:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Pacific kiribati, thanks for your message. I will act if needed - will watch his uploads. By the way: you probably mean user:Karakizi. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:59, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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Question: Why can't I add or edit my Commons Wikipedia images in Wikipedia English?

Hallo Saibo, I am surprised that just this time, today, here in Philippines, when I add or edit and put my Commons images in Wikipedia English, they do not show up in the articles like: a) [10] and b) [11]. Am I blocked from putting images there? I was not notified by any editor or administrator. Please enlighten me, I am new here. Thanks.--Ramon FVelasquez (talk) 05:37, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

After 2 hours, I think it is ok now, and probably to our or the Wikipedia server error. Cheers.--Ramon FVelasquez (talk) 08:40, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ramon! Yes, we have problems with the image display due to server problems since 2 days. You are and were never blocked in en.Wikipedia. All fine! Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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Heilbronn, Altes Rathaus ...

Auf der deutschen Wikipedia, reicht es meist aus, dass nachgewiesen werden kann, dass das Bild älter als 100 Jahre alt ist. Eine Literatur (Hans Franke, Geschichte der Juden in Heilbronn) erwähnt beiläufig Amberg (aus dem Atelier der Silberwarenfabrik P. Bruckmann Heilbronn) als Künstler. Wenn das Bild gelöscht werden muss, dann lade ich es auf der deutschen Wikipedia (nicht commons hoch). Danke schön :-) Mit freundl. Grüßen --Messina (talk) 05:42, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Messina! Um File:Heilbronn, Altes Rathaus vor 4.12.44, Neue Kanzlei, Wandgemälde des Künstlers Amberg aus dem Atelier Peter Bruckmann vor dem Trauzimmer.jpg geht es wohl, oder? Ja, in der de.Wikipedia gibt es de:Vorlage:Bild-PD-alt-100, die unter Beachtung der darin genannten zwei Voraussetzungen evtl. für diese Fotos verwendet werden kann. Dank dir! Du wirst aber noch Unterstützung von Pieter Kuiper gegen mich, den bösen Saibo erhalten. :-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 15:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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VisualFileChange configuration - watchlist options lost

Because I made a design-error in v0.8.0.0 (boolean-option for watchlist), your watchlist settings are now lost. Next time when using VisualFileChange, please set your watchlist options back to watch. Thank you. -- RE rillke questions? 17:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the message! --Saibo (Δ) 15:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer-anon

When updating this page, please also be careful to update MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext. Maybe you could even sync them with a template. Magog the Ogre (talk) 15:48, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Magog, I did not know that template - and why does it need to be synced? I even do not think the links should be on a talk page - it is a talk page.. ;-) But.. okay - do you want me to adjust these links as well? I think a simple inclusion and "onlyinclude" in the footer would solve the problem. :) --Saibo (Δ) 17:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't much care how you do it, but it seems silly to have two different geolocates and two different WHOIS's. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:20, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I know why I never see that message on talk pages: because it is only displayed for English interface. Anyway: I have updated both "templates" at last. Hope everything is working now. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:40, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, maybe then someone should be adding it to the German interface. Face-wink.svg Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:08, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Done now! :-D --Saibo (Δ) 23:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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Info

If it is who I think it is the IPs may well be open proxies. Regards --Herby talk thyme 17:04, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I cannot proof this - if you have evidence... do it. ;-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 18:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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Die Bereiche, die ich aufgelistet habe, sind sicher keine Proxies; das ist seine eigene ISP. Proxies benutzt er allerdings auch gern, aber die sehen dann anders aus. Fut.Perf. 01:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

My talkpage

Please re-protect my talkpage. It was protected for a very strong reason. This is a case of an extremely persistent cross-project vandal harassing me. Just look at the history of my talk pages on other projects to see what happens if they are not kept semi'ed. Fut.Perf. 07:00, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Future Perfect at Sunrise, in simple wikipedia I cannot write you due to that protection - whyever I am not autoconfirmed there... I really would like to avoid that permanent protection. As I see it the IPs are not fully random - maybe we could make a selective protection only for that IP ranges via abuse filters? Of course you should not get harassed :-( but talk page protection also shouldn't happen. I watch your talk page now and have asked user:Túrelio to comment here. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:32, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Abuse filter might be a useful alternative. Probably needs to include all edits made from the known IP ranges on all pages I recently edited. The vandalism also happens on pages other than my talkpage, so the abuse filter option might actually be an elegant solution. Fut.Perf. 22:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
I would have the relevant filter syntax ready if that really needs to be extended to more pages than your talk page - but I think that would really be "heavy". Is that really so bad? The problem is that if it is extended to all pages it surely would create false positives which should really not happen. False positives are not that if it is just your talk page. Let's wait what Turelio means. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:32, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Funny, all three are de-native speakers and we talk :en.
@Saibo, ich kenn mich mit der Effektivität und Einrichtung von range-blocks nicht aus. Was ich aus meinen inzwischen nicht mehr so seltenen Notfalleingriffen gegen diesen anti-Future ...-Vandalen aber weiß, ist dass er häufig den (tatsächlichen oder vermeintlichen) Realnamen und weitere RL-Bezüge in seine Edit-summaries einbaut (deshalb auch meine rev-dels), um Future... wirklich zu schaden. Ich habe Future's Disku nicht auf meiner Beo, d.h. ich habe die Vandalenattacken immer rein zufällig im Rahmen meiner routinemäßigen "Letzte Änderungen-Überwachung" erwischt. Andere wurden von anderen Kollegen erwischt, manche sind vermutlich einige Zeit unentdeckt geblieben. Will sagen, man sollte das nicht dem Zufall überlassen. Falls du einen halbwegs wirksamen (>90%) range-block hinbekommst, wäre das sicher eine gute, vielleicht die bessere Lösung, sofern der Übeltäter dann nicht auf Wegwerfaccounts umsteigt. --Túrelio (talk) 23:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Fut.Pref., kannst du mir mal eine Liste der IPs machen, die dich belästigen? Das wäre sehr nett. Ich würde dann den Filter erstmal nur für diese Range für deine talk page einrichten. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:49, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Es ist leider eine ganze Menge verschiedener Blocks von einem großen, dynamischen ISP. Ich hab mal die mir bekannten Blocks zusammengestellt (wenn du möglichst kleine Bereiche willst, nimmst du die Untereinträge; wenn du weniger und dafür größere Bereiche willst, nimmst du die Einträge in der obersten Ebene.) Mir ist hier auf Commons noch nie ein nicht-eingeloggter Benutzer über den Weg gelaufen, der irgendwie ähnliche IPs wie diese gehabt hätte und nicht Wikinger war, von daher halte ich die Gefahr von falschen Treffern für gering. Auf meiner eigenen Seite würde ich ehrlich gesagt Semiprotection vorziehen, weil W. sehr gern und oft auch auf Proxies und/oder Wegwerfaccounts ausweicht. Anderswo wäre es schon sehr günstig, wenn man diese IP-Bereiche per Filter von allen Seiten ausschließen könnte, die kürzlich von mir bearbeitet worden sind, denn die werden auch regelmäßig angegriffen. Ist zwar eine ziemlich radikale Lösung, aber immerhin sind diese Angriffe ja auch nicht nur für mich lästig, sondern auch ausgesprochen verwirrend für andere Benutzer, z.B. die, deren Dateien ich zum Löschen markiere oder die von mir irgendwelche Warnhinweise bekommen. Fut.Perf. 14:22, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

<deleted by Saibo> --18:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Turelio: unter Nummer 90 wirst du fündig. Schau mal bitte drüber. Über Details sollten wir hier vielleicht besser nicht reden. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 18:28, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Ähem, vielleicht steh ich ja auf der Leitung, aber unter filter 90 hab ich auf Commons nirgends was gefunden. Aber auch egal, ich bin sicher du wirst das schon gut programmiert haben. Ob er in der Praxis ausreicht, muss sich eh im Alltag zeigen. --Túrelio (talk) 09:37, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Du hast Email. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 13:30, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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Commons:Requests for comment/galleries

I've moved your comment to the talk page after expanding the page. I hope you're OK with that, and that the purpose of the RFC has become clearer. Further meta-discussion should be on the talk page, if you've anything to add. Thanks for your input. Rd232 (talk) 11:48, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Not really since others who only read the front page may have the same problem. --Saibo (Δ) 13:16, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
OK, well, if you want to start a new section on the main page and move the talk-page exchange there, I won't oppose that (though I don't think it would particularly help). What would you do differently with the discussion? You see what I'm trying to do, don't you? Rd232 (talk) 18:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
No, re-organizing discussions is your self-chosen "job" ;) (I am sure you do it in the very best intent - so please don't get me wrong). --Saibo (Δ) 18:42, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
OK... :) Well, your comments over there are disagreeing with the RFC - that's what I was getting at with the last two sentences above (I guess that wasn't clear). So what would you do differently with the discussion that is the subject of the RFC? Rd232 (talk) 18:52, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I am not that interested in the subject - and problems and suggested changes to policy/guideline pages were not suggested. So I leave it to those who like to discuss about. What I saw is a big fat banner - tend to regard that as ugly to have it on all file pages (if that is the proposal). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 19:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
OK, I've taken those comments on board. Thanks. Rd232 (talk) 22:00, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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Template:PD-Philippines

Kannst du dich um die Anfrage auf der Disk kümmern?--Antemister (talk) 20:53, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Kannst du dort bitte kommentieren? Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 21:02, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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Back in the middle ages...

my messages--Saibo (Δ) 01:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

...stuff wasn't transferred to Commons very carefully at all, I'm afraid. I copy-pasted the original file description page at File:Anthony Giddens at the Progressive Governance Converence, Budapest, Hungary, 2004 October.jpg. If you need any other deleted stuff looked up, drop me a message at Commons or at en.wiki; I watch both talk pages. Maxim(talk) 00:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

It was with no disclaimers - original template was {{GFDL-no-disclaimers}}. There was standardization done later on ( (del/undel) (diff) 21:04, 10 May 2007 . . Cydebot (talk | contribs | block) (174 bytes) (Robot - Fixing GFDL tags project-wide per Wikipedia:GFDL standardization.)). Maxim(talk) 01:19, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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Stemma provincia di Monza e Brianza

Hi, please can you change the emblem "stemma" of the provincia of Monza and Brianza in this page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stemma_Provincia_di_Monza_e_della_Brianza.png#file The province of Monza and Brianza has got a new "stemma"...this is its new emblem http://www.araldicacivica.it/stemmi/province/stemma/?id=109 Thank you very much... Simon84b (talk) 18:51, 24 February 2012 (CET)

Hi Simon! If you know that it is public domain (it does not seems so) you can upload it under a new name. Files do not get replaced/overwritten with new emblem versions (see Commons:Avoid_overwriting_existing_files). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 21:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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Danke!

Danke schön für die lieben Worte. :) Liebe Grüße zurück. (: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amy.Leonie (talk • contribs) 2012-02-26T20:00:13‎ (UTC)

Gern doch, freut mich! :-) --Saibo (Δ) 22:31, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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Kunst im Video

Hallo Saibo, ist für die Videos in der Category:Parkleuchten 2012 nicht auch die Zustimmung der Lichtkünstler erforderlich? Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 23:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Pristurus, wenn es nur befristet ist, und wenn nicht einfach nur ne Taschenlampe angeschaltet ist... wohl ja. Ich kann mir die Videos (noch nicht mal im VLC - im Firefox direkt schon gar nicht) angucken - FullHD schafft meine Mühle nicht. Basierend auf den Thumbs bei File:Essen - Gruga - Parkleuchten 2012 (oT) 08 ies.ogv ziemlich sicher - andere scheinen einfacher zu sein (statisches Licht mit Leuten davor)... Wiesoooo laden die Leute sowas hoch? hpmf... ich kümmer mich drum (wenn du willst) ... demnächst. "Panoramafreiheit" gilt schon gar nicht, weil das ja wohl nur ein einmaliges Ereignis ist. --Saibo (Δ) 00:07, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Wohl aus Unwissenheit, im Netz gibt es auch jede Menge an Fotos von diesem Event. Das Kümmern überlasse ich dir natürlich gern... Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 00:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Erl. Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Parkleuchten 2012 --Saibo (Δ) 00:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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File:Ebuyer_stats_video.ogv

Hi Saibo, habe gerade dieses Video zur Schnelllöschung markiert. Die restlichen (Bilder-) Uploads dieses Users sehen mir auch verdächtig aus. Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 20:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Grüß dich! Hmm, naja - basierend auf Special:Log/Rbdwalker scheint das ein Angestellter der Marketingabteilung zu sein. ;) Also würde ich eher {{subst:npd}} (OTRS) sagen. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 22:11, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
done und Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 00:04, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Done the rest. ;-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 00:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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JavaScript tool to ease diagnostics

JFYI. Sincerely -- RE rillke questions? 20:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! A script which opens the error console, clears, and filters would be useful. ;-) I think we should make a template:JS error console. ;-) --Saibo (Δ) 21:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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Löschen bitte

hallo Saibo,

diese von mir vor fast 20 jahren aufgenommene audiodatei...

... stößt bei dem protagonisten dieser öffentlichen veranstaltung, zu der ich damals als presse eingeladen war, auf widerstand, und ich möchte Dich bitten, sie zu löschen. der typ, der hier zu hören ist, will heute nicht mehr gern mit UFOs assoziiert werden, fühlt sich durch den mitschnitt diffamiert. ich möchte nicht die diskussion aufmachen, inwieweit er eine relative oder unrelative person der zeitgeschichte ist und wie zeitgeschichtlich relevant und von übergeordnetem interesse dieser kurze take ist. grüße!

Maximilian (talk) 10:17, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Guten Tag Maximilian! Ich habe die Datei in deinem Beitrag mal verlinkt. Unabhängig von eventuell vorhandenen persönlichkeitsrechtlichen Problemen könnte der Mitschnitt ohne eine urheberrechtliche Freigabe durch ihn auch urheberrechtlich problematisch sein – eine „Panoramafreiheit“ gibt es ja nicht für Ton. Ist gelöscht. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 13:21, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
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besten dank! die rechtliche situation damals, also um 1993 war eine andere als sie es jetzt ist. Maximilian (talk) 16:23, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Userpage note

Your userpage carries the implication (referencing my safesearch proposal) that I did (or at least would have) voted delete at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Masturbating with a toothbrush.jpg. I didn't vote, but if I had, it would have been keep. Rd232 (talk) 00:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

You should feel better now, don't you? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Still implies a causal connection with failed deletion which doesn't exist. Rd232 (talk) 01:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
done. --Saibo (Δ) 02:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
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re this: do you or do you not understand the second bullet point in the heading of COM:L? This is policy, you're welcome to propose change. Until then, you can oppose on principle attempts to comply with it, but you cannot disrupt attempts to do so. Rd232 (talk) 13:55, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

You know it better - do not try to pretend otherwise and to suppress opposition. --Saibo (Δ) 13:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
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Your userpage

So wait, your user page was published between 1923 and 1977 by someone who has been dead for 70 years?[12] Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

No, not really - published first 2006-05-18T10:11:54 - but with different content as in the last versions. See my comments in the DR and you will find out why it is vanished - just preparing. --Saibo (Δ) 19:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Sad to see a red link in your signature. PierreSelim (talk) 09:55, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Pierre, yes, that it is. I found User:Saibo/Loves Commons looking nicer than a blank page. Sad that some here are not really trying to get the best for Commons but rather trying to destroy. --Saibo (Δ) 15:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

I won't comment on whether it was necessary to delete your old userpage, but can you please (re)create your userpage with Babel and admin userboxes etc, as admins are expected to provide this information. Thanks. Rd232 (talk) 19:38, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

And if I don't do it? For sure my userpage will come back when the current craziness is over and the public domain images stay with full metadata on Commons or whatever Sub-Non-US-Commons. --Saibo (Δ) 19:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
To save you from giving an answer (and since babel and admin box are in fact useful): Better now? --Saibo (Δ) 23:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, better, thanks. However, somebody should point out (and I'm not sure anyone has) that your repeated accusations of bad faith and even "vandalism" against Dcoetzee were quite extraordinary to see coming from admin. You certainly know better, and no amount of frustration with the US law and WMF policy on respecting it and users' attempts to deal with that justifies it. I trust you will reflect on this, if not now, then at some point in the future when things are less heated. Rd232 (talk) 00:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, climate is indeed heated (therefore my reference to nuclear war). Flagged bot actions without community agreement (which on top also had technical and logical errors) don't really contribute to a de-escalation. So since I am not quite sure regarding the good faith of Dcoetzee I do not see that naming his yesterday's actions vandalism is fully wrong (partly, yes, I agree, but → ) - exaggeration of actions on one side could lead to exaggeration of actions on the other side. Sad that I have to talk of "sides" not only in the war against humans (naked humans to be precise) but also in the manifesting new URAAAAaaah! war initiated with much effort and enthusiasm by Dcoetzee. --Saibo (Δ) 01:16, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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Jorm (WMF)

You shouldn't really be edit-warring with a user over removing material from their talkpage. I'm sorry if I'm partly responsible for any confusion: the page COM:ARCHIVE is part of (Commons:Talk page guidelines) does note, further down, that Others delete comments after they have responded to them (but this practice is no longer recommended - archiving is preferred). Deleting is bad practice, and it's disappointing to see a WMF user do it, but it's permitted. If you have any suggestions on how to clarify the page, please let me know or post on the guideline talk page. (Like other pages, the page is a bad mixture of guideline and help page, which contributes to confusion. :( ) Rd232 (talk) 00:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your info! No, I think the COM:ARCHIVE page is okay.
The discussion he removed was still active - just now linked at COM:VPC (I used a permanent link but usually a normal wiki link should have done - if he didn't remove the contents fully). I just revert a bit back and forth - could have been that he didn't read the link to COM:ARCHIVE the first time. Guidelines are not there to be fully ignored - but yes - I know it is not policy. And even if, it would not be worth to make a big drama out of it in his case - different for copyvio uploaders. There it is more annoying if they delete notices as the give a quick info for any later copyvio "hunters" of the user's past.
With regards to Jorm, don't know what has bitten him. Maybe he is usually the boss - or thinks he is of the wiki since he is "senior blafoo programmersoftware architect" (or something) and cannot deal with notices of mistakes?
Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the lack of responsiveness there is at least as disappointing as the original copyright mistakes. If even WMF users don't understand or respect copyright... :( Rd232 (talk) 01:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Even Sue Gardner does not know, that "oh, it was made by a friend of mine" and "how? not anybody can give away copyrights?" is plain WRONG: [13] & [14] (who is this Ms Young?) (yeah, you know, Mario Testino happens to be a friend of mine and says that my upload is okay. ;) ) Catfisheye (talk) 05:40, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh, yes, of course it is clear for any possible reuser that File:Wikimedia_Foundation_SOPA_Boiler_Room_Meeting.jpg was uploaded (and carefully acquired the free license from the photographer) by the big "boss" of Wikimedia Foundation. I don't see what is wrong here, we have so many uploaders doing that every day (mostly newly registered ones) - that must be right. :-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC) I left Sue a note. --Saibo (Δ) 14:20, 23 January 2012 (UTC) In case someone does not understand the irony: COM:OTRS is the formally required process for uploading works made by other people. --Saibo (Δ) 15:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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Help wanted.

Hello again Saibo, and once again sorry for my stupid and wrongful suspicions at the end of a comment. I were both tired and tired of the picture in question. (The "Mellanöl-question" was thow a big political issue during many years.) However I have now a digital version of a picture that my grandfather (on my mothers side) shot of Siegessäule in Berlin prior to Albert Speer had it moved in to Tiergarten. Picture is black/white and the monument and surroundings clearly looks very different from how it looks today. I've read that the monument was moved in 1938. The big problem is that surely cannot state that I'm the author. If a negative exists I don't know. But my mother found the picture among old photos beloning to my uncle. So I've spoken to my uncle (and my mother) and both thinks that it is "a very good idea" if their father's (and my grandfather's) old photo comes to use in Wikipedia. They are familiar with that the picture will be public domain. Although I cannot find any other "easy found" picture of Siegessäule outside der Reichstag with Google I doubt that the picture has an economical value. Besides we (my mother, uncle and myself) do not care if that would be the case. My grandfather lived 1899-1966 and was a bank manager in an southern Sweden office. I have only one little memory of him. Anyway - Do You have any suggestion how to solve this problem ? For instance I have not a clue of what a "copyright tag" is. Very best of reguards Boeing720 (talk) 16:43, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hej Boeing720, I did not forget nor did I refuse to answer at your talk page - I just have put it to my ToDo list. ;-) Don't know what's "stupid" at your comment on your talk page. Don't worry!
If you know for sure that your grandfather is the photographer (so he not just bought the photo print somewhere) AND if the person(s) who own the picture's copyrights agree to a free license or public domain then you can upload it. The person(s) who own the copyright are probably your mother and uncle if there are no other heirs or if they came to agreement with the other heirs that the copyright of this photo belongs to them. For images of which you are not the author yourself (and not published in the web by the author) the steps described in COM:OTRS should be followed. That means that the person who owns the copyright should send a email to Wikimedia explaining why the copyright is owned and agreeing to a free license (or public domain). Example text which can be used is available on that page. If your mother/uncle does not write emails then probably you could also send this email on her/his behalf explicitly stating that you discussed the "Declaration of consent for all enquiries" (it explains the license a bit) with her/him. A Swedish version is here: Commons:E-postmallar.
You said "public domain" in your comment and I said "free license or public domain". The difference between "free license" and public domain is that in the former there are restrictions which people who want to use the image have to follow (typically at least attribution) whereas in the latter there are no restrictions for use. Commons and Wikipedia accepts both, freely licensed and public domain content. You can choose what you like more if you want to release an image.
By the way: it is no problem to take photos of public monuments in Germany due to freedom of panorama in Germany (similar to Sweden).
Regarding your question what a "copyright tag": See Commons:Copyright tags. Short answer: for example that is a "copyright tag": {{CC-by-sa-3.0}}. It indicates under which restrictions an image can be used and why it is free. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 01:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank You very much for this good information. I will try to follow Your described link. And the e-mails required. I assume that my grandfathers name (John Nilsson 1899-1966) as (family-album-)photographer can be mentioned somewhere. (This is the only part that we - my mother, uncle and myself - cares about). And we are absolutley sure of that the shot comes from my grandfather due to a lot of other pictures. But only one is Siegessäule prior to 1938 whithout persons in the foreground. I'm not expert but to me the photo must be concidered "good enough". Thanks once again 83.249.32.5 19:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, in every case the photographer's name can be mentioned in the "author" field. If you choose a free license (e.g. {{Cc-by-sa-3.0}}) everyone who uses that image must mention that name (that is one of the requirements of the license). If you choose to put the image into the public domain ({{PD-author}} or {{Cc-zero}}) then mentioning the author name of the image is not needed for people who use that image (although they may do, of course, as a courtesy). Thanks for your effort to contribute! :-) --Saibo (Δ) 20:08, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank You once again for all this help. It was not easy for me to upload the picture in this way. I couldn't have done it without Your help. (The wizard works fine for "common" uploads, but this was different.) I first send an e-mail and later used Your tag suggestion. I also put the picture in german, swedish and english Wikipedia (article "Siegessäule" in german and swedish - it was called something else in english). In the english Wiki there already was a picture from 1900, but it's a well done painting not a photo. I hope everything is in order. Please do contact me if something isn't in order. Best of reguards Pontus Eriksson, 83.249.35.30 22:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC) (Boeing720)
Hej Pontus Eriksson, nice to hear! :-) Someone has changed the location - where was it? ;-) I have placed an info on the file page indicating that you have sent an email, too ({{subst:OP}}). Everything is fine. I noted that you chose the "custom license" option. That's fine - but you could also have chosen this license directly in the menu. If you do not like the upload wizard for some reason, you could also use the old upload forms. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Well this wasn't so good after all. I didn't had a clue that a Siegessäule also exists in Munich. I'm so sorry. (However no one reacted on the e-mail yesterday. Of course he picture can be used still. But there are far better pictures of the Munich Siegessäule which has not been moved. The picture has no value for Wikipedia. But eighter the photo must be removed from Commons or the info text re-written. I'll try to change the text. Still thanks thow 83.249.35.30 01:32, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem, really! Just use the edit mode on the image page to correct (please log in before with your username - you are not currently). We can also change the file name if required - just tell me if necessary. The answer to your mail could take some days or even weeks. Only volunteers like you and me answer emails and queues happen. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I think that everything on Commons is OK, except for the name of the file. With better knowlidge of my grandfathers photo I suggest new name as "Siegessäule Munich". If You can do this for me I would be very greateful. But I really feel bad about this extreme mistake. So also thanks for Your encouragement. I have 8 old passport stamps from the former GDR (in/out of Saßnitz 1981 in/out of Warnemünde 1982 and in/out of Hirschberg both 1981 and 1982) - could this be of any relevant use, do You think ? I doubt it. There is no relevant article as far as I can see. So I have no more photos for the moment. I once again thank You for all Your help and advices. Boeing720 (talk) 13:39, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
As I see it is not even a "Siegessäule", agree? I have made some corrections to the file page (also the correct category). As I see it we did not have such an old photo from this point-of-view - nice!
Passport stamps.. hmm.. I do not know. Also I do not know their copyright status for sure (probably they are public domain - like all highly official works of the German government). That is what I found: searchCategory:Passport stamps of East Germany. Are your stamps different, better? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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RFC

I tried to play this softly, but this, on top of the original comments I had to deal with, is becoming disruptive. Don't think I'll let you act disruptively because you're an experienced admin here. Rd232 (talk) 01:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Saibo (Δ) 02:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

OK, one more attempt to restore sanity. Commons:Requests for comment/PD review is nearing 30 days. If you agree to avoid in any way disrupting the work that will come out of the RFC, I'll restore your comments, withdraw the block request, close the RFC, and start the project to organise the work. How does that sound? Rd232 (talk) 17:36, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Rd232, I do not understand what you mean by "is nearing 30 days". Eh, and which "block request"? --Saibo (Δ) 04:26, 3 March 2012 (UTC) Found it: that "block request". --Saibo (Δ) 04:41, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
The RFC was launched on 5 Feb. Today is 3 March. Rd232 (talk) 10:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, but I can calculate, too. I mean, why do you tell me that is soon is 30 days old? --Saibo (Δ) 13:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
It was context for why I was suggesting closing the RFC (since 30 days is the usual minimum to keep them open). Now, is there really no way you can promise not to disrupt the future URAA/PD review work? Rd232 (talk) 00:57, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I do not know this "minimum" or even that RFC get "closed". RFCs are just like topics on VP which are also not "closed". --Saibo (Δ) 15:29, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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No, most RFCs are like DRs - they need a conclusion of some sort. But this is not the issue. Can I conclude from your refusal to answer my direct question (plus using {{section resolved}}...) that you do plan further disruption? Was zum Teufel geht dir eigentlich durch den Kopf hier? Rd232 (talk) 16:22, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Joachim Lutz/Martin1009

Hallo Saibo, 1971markus hat mich gebeten([15]), dich wegen der etwas unklaren Lizensierung der Joachim Lutz-Fotos/Repros von Martin1009 anzusprechen, weil du da in der Vergangenheit schon etwas sondiert hättest. Bevor ich das Rad (bzgl. User_talk:Martin1009#Urheberrechtsstatus der Fotos von Joachim Lutz) nochmal neu erfinde, kannst du ja mal hier oder bei mir posten, was du da herausgefunden hast bzw. zu welchen Schlußfolgerungen du gekommen bist. Danke. --Túrelio (talk) 09:01, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Done --Saibo (Δ) 15:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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File:Postleitzahlen Mönchengladbach-2.xcf

I just went through all XCF files and purged them so they show up now. Lots of them look ok :-) There seem to be some problems with text rendering. -- RE rillke questions? 13:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Good, as expected. --Saibo (Δ) 14:45, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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The Special Barnstar

Special Barnstar Hires.png The Special Barnstar
I, Cirt, hereby award The Special Barnstar to Saibo. With recognition for your stand against censorship and in support of freedom of expression and freedom of speech. Thank you! :) -- Cirt (talk) 06:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Heh, thank you, Cirt! ...although it is not nice that there even is a need to "stand against". --Saibo (Δ) 11:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
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Rotatebot

As you might have seen at User talk:Rotatebot#Work, Rotatebot isn't rotating any images. Are you able to do something about this? I put a notice at User talk:Luxo a couple of days ago but never got any reply. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:20, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Luxo is not really active as you might know - if there are big / urgent problems you need/should write an email. Thanks for letting me know, I did not see that notice since I have not look in my watchlist for about 14 days (due to the 1.19 update and stuff...). I can and will try to restart it. More at the rotatebot talk. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:59, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I thought that Luxo might receive e-mail notices for talk page edits. Never mind, will use e-mail next time. --Stefan4 (talk) 15:08, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
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Habsbourg-1700.jpg

Hallo Saibo, wie hast Du Ejaculation without manual stimulating.gif gecroppt? Ich kann solche Dateien nur komplett in jedes Frame auseinander nehmen, croppen und wieder zusammenbasteln. Bei 2958 Bildern wirst Du das aber anders gemacht haben, für einen Tipp wäre ich sehr dankbar :-) Ras67 (talk) 01:02, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

GIMP verarbeitet GIF-Animationen als ein Bild mit Ebenen (hier 2958 Stück). Also lässt sich einfach das Bild beschneiden. Nur: was hat das mit der Habsbourg-1700.jpg zu tun? Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 01:15, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Genaugenommen nicht viel, allerdings war es Teil der eigentlich geplanten Frage, aber RE rillke hatte den Teil schon von sich aus beantwortet. Danke für den Tipp mit Gimp. Viele Grüße zurück! --Ras67 (talk) 13:27, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Ich empfehle Animation Shop, sehr einfach und automatisch... -- πϵρήλιο 14:04, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Kann ich mir denken, dass es für gifs bessere, spezialisierte Programme gibt. Ich mache nicht viel mit gifs - aber für den Zweck ging es mit GIMP, was ich eh dauernd benutze, ganz gut. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 14:11, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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Cradle of Filth

Hello Saibo. This file was uploaded for a vandal in the spanish Wikipedia. He creates a lot of accounts and all were blocked. Obviously he doesn't have the rights of that photo. Excuse my english. Un saludo. Progenie of the great apocalypse (talk) 09:59, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your notice - that is much clearer than the edits without comments at the file page. Done: User_talk:Blaspehemer#Blocked. Gracias --Saibo (Δ) 14:50, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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One help for another ;)

I think this is an screencapture of a TV sendung: "El chavo del ocho". Now I'll check your message. Thanks. --Andrea (talk) 22:19, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Gracias, ✓ Done. Chao --Saibo (Δ) 00:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Done too. BTW, do you know someone with OTRS flag? This user uploaded several times pics with CR but he claims to have OTRS permisson, even when no picture has template. As you can see, he uploaded them again. I put an add to ZooFari, but I think he didn´t read it. Is there any way to kow if he really sed permissions? Cheers. --Andrea (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Please just post this question to Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard. That is the best way unless you find someone in IRC. I clicked two of his recent surviving uploads but none had a otrs ticket number. Is there somewhere such a number mentioned? Tell this number to the OTRS people. Chao --Saibo (Δ) 01:34, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
At Zoofari's talk you say "He claims to have rights over pictures". Where does he do this? If you want I can take over that part of questioning and deletion. Although I cannot speak Spanish... Ah, found it: in this DR. I made a new DR as there does not seem to be any email sent to OTRS, so they cannot do anything. Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Nickodanubio --Saibo (Δ) 01:44, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --Andrea (talk) 01:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Beta_M

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AGK&diff=480769915&oldid=480725759

See Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Beta_M_.28talk_.C2.B7_contribs_.C2.B7_deleted_contribs_.C2.B7_logs_.C2.B7_edit_filter_log_.C2.B7_block_user_.C2.B7_block_log.29. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 04:20, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

en:Wikipedia:Child_protection also states that such matters can't be discussed publicly on enwiki. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 04:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Michael, I know the AN/U thread but I still miss a reason and I thought Arbcom might have one... That's all quite fishy to me. --Saibo (Δ) 12:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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File:PavScheven59.jpg - Bitte um Fix

Hallo Saibo, wenn ich das recht sehe, hat SchiDD hier einen Ausschnitt von der Datei gemacht: File:Dinglingers Weinberg.jpg. Er ist noch relativ neu hier und antwortet nicht auf den Diskussionsseiten, ist aber ansonsten fleißig. Ich übernehme derzeit das Kategorisieren seiner Uploads und dabei ist mir eben auch diese Datei untergekommen. Magst Du die Angaben bezüglich Lizenz und Derivative work bitte fixen? Danke Dir! Liebe Grüße Catfisheye (talk) 19:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Na, das passt ja, dass du hier vorbeischwimmst - mein letzter Editkommentar hier: fishy. Ja, mache ich. [16], [17]. Sagst du ihm bitte Bescheid und gibst ihm die Diffs? (Gut war, dass du die Quelldatei und den Urheber angegeben hattest - aber die Lizenz hat noch gefehlt und verlinkt werden sollte die Datei auch. Am besten verwendest du http://toolserver.org/~luxo/derivativeFX/deri1.php?lang=de was ja auch in [[Commons:Hochladen]] verlinkt ist.) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 21:50, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Merci. Mit Ansprechen, weiß nicht. Er bekommt recht viel ab in letzter Zeit, da ja alle WPler ohne Fehler ihre Arbeit machen. *hüst* Ich habe ihm meine Hilfe angeboten, aber angeneommen hat er sie bis dato nicht. Danke Dir auf jeden Fall. Liebe Grüße Catfisheye (talk) 22:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Ja, okay, wie du meinst, dass es am besten ist. Du kannst ihm ja mal eine E-Mail schreiben, manche Leute, besonders die Älteren (meine Erfahrung), können damit besser umgehen. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 22:34, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!

Team Barnstar Hires.png The Teamwork Barnstar
Hei Saibo, da mich gerade 2 seltsame Kats hergebracht haben, gibt es jetzt doch auch mal einen Barnstar. Da der Special Barnstar gerade schon auf dieser Seite steht, gibt es nun stattdessen den Teamwork Barnstar, der passt auch gut. Wenn ich schon mal gerade hier gelandet bin … den hast du dir echt verdient. :-)

Und dann hab ich noch die beiden Kats mitgebracht zum Schmunzeln und bei der Gelegenheit in völliger Verwirrung gleich noch eine seltsame dazu angelegt, die zum Glück die nächsten paar Hunderte Jahre nicht gebraucht werden wird. ;-)

Freut mich, dass du dich hier wieder zeigst! :-) Und danke natürlich für den humorvollen Barnstar - ja, so Zeug passiert. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 03:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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Disk quedel

Hi, ich hatte darauf vertraut, daß Du oder ein anderer Admin das sehen und entsprechend reagiern. Ich hatte gestern nur nicht die Zeit, direkt eine Versionslöschung zu beantragen. cu, --Markscheider (talk) 08:14, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Markscheider! Quedel bat mich im IRC drum - selbst gesehen hatte ich das nicht. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 13:48, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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PD USA

Hallo Saibo, nur als Hinweis: das könnte dich interessieren. Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 14:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Pristurus, das ist ein Artikel über die Entscheidung zu URAA, ja - aber etwas neues konnte ich darin nicht sehen. Kannst du mir weiterhelfen? Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 15:49, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Dann vergiss es einfach. Bezüglich Wissen über Copyright bist du mir halt weit voraus; war mir nur ins Auge gefallen, weil wir neulich über rückwirkende Änderung von Rechten im Chat diskutiert hatten. Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 17:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Achso, okay, danke natürlich dennoch! Wichtig ist es, ja, nur mir eben schon bekannt (ich dachte, du wüsstest das vielleicht, weil ich auch z.B. meine Benutzerseite aus Protest schon gelöscht hatte) Commons:Deletion_requests/All_files_copyrighted_in_the_US_under_the_URAA hier ging's los, mit Commons:Requests_for_comment/PD_review ging's weiter (oder auch nicht). Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 17:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hallo noch wach....

Hallo Saibo, Martin1978 wird/wurde vandaliert die IP wurde in de:WP gesperrt vandaliert nun auch auf Commons, wie funktioniert hier ne VM?. Fragenden Gruß --1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 01:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Bin dabei. --Saibo (Δ) 01:38, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Supi, gib mir bitte auch nen Link zu ner VM Seite... Gruß --1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 01:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
89.204.130.235 (talk · contribs) ist gesperrt und Version versteckt bzw gelöscht - was auch immer das sollte. Und das nur weil Martin ihn im Artikel revertiert hat.. klar. ;-)
Ich habe einen Link in die Seitenleiste von de:WP:VM eingefügt ("Schwesterprojekte"). Findet man den wenn man danch sucht? Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Vandalism ist hier für Vandalismus und Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Blocks_and_protections für Sperrwünsche - z.B. wegen KPA durch angemeldete Benutzer oder andere Streitigkeiten oder Seitenschutzwünsche. Und Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems behandelt eher längerwierige Fälle. Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard gibts auch noch, wenn nichts passt (so wie die de:WP:AAF). ;-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 01:54, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Toller Einsatz (um mal das gewisse Wort mit Bedeutung zu vermeiden)! Ich hatte Martin informiert und Schniggendiller gab mir auch die Info zum VM-Link. Lieben Gruß zur guten Nacht. --1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 02:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC) P.S. hast du ne Idee warum der Marin d.Ä. mit den Bearbeitungswerkzeugen Probleme (erst nach der Vorschau) hat - ich bin ratlos
Gute Nacht! Ich schaue mal wieder bei Martin auf der Talkseite vorbei. Ich vermute, ich weiß, wieso er Probleme hat (uralt-Browser - wollte ich auch schonmal in unserer E-Mailkonversation angehen, aber ist eben nicht einfach). Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 02:10, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
An den Browser hatte ich auch zuerst gedacht... ich werde wohl am Sonntag mit Martin per Telefon etwas Computern... schaun mer mal... Gute Nacht --1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 02:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Geantw: User talk:Martin1009#Bearbeitenleiste erst nach der Vorschau. Mal sehen, was er antwortet. Aber ich denke ein aktueller Firefox (oder Chrome oder oder) würde ihm gut tun. --Saibo (Δ) 02:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
dto. --1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 03:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
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"private" WikiProject

Re this: there's nothing "private" about it, anyone is welcome to contribute constructively. However, given that you apparently cannot accept that enforcing a Commons policy which is required for legal purposes is a constructive thing to do, you would probably struggle to contribute constructively. Sometimes I wonder how you managed to contribute for so long to a US-based website without realising that this made it subject to US laws; though that pales in comparison with my disbelief that you stand fast in your denial of this simple fact. (Would you so freely deny that a Germany-based Commons must be subject to German law?) Rd232 (talk) 17:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

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Sportvideos

Hallo Saibo, was machen wir denn mit sowas? Soweit mir bekannt, liegen die Rechte doch fast immer bei den Vereinen bzw. der Liga oder dem Sportverband. Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 22:37, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Schönen guten Abend Pristurus! Die "Rechte" - naja.. ja, aber nicht die Urheberrechte (zumindest habe ich beim schnellen Durchsehen nichts gesehen/gehört - oder ist da irgendwo nennenswert viel vom Stadiosprecher? Das könnte problematisch sein). Der Verein könnte zwar aufgrund von Verstoß gegen das Hausrecht (wenn dem so ist) den Filmer etwas wollen, aber das interessiert uns aus urheberrechtlicher Sicht nicht. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:03, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, wieder was dazu gelernt. Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 23:51, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
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User:Jameslwoodward/Commons notes for administrators‎

Thanks for the cleanup and adding new information.

Since you've spent some time working on this, you probably think it is useful. Should it be someplace other than my User subpage? Perhaps Commons:Notes for administrators?      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jim, thanks for your appreciation. Yes, I think it is useful. It should/could be integrated into Commons:Guide to adminship or don't you think it fits there? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 16:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
OK. See Commons talk:Guide to adminship      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Replied there. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:33, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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A problem with MediaWiki:Titleblacklist

Hello! I saw that you have experience with MediaWiki:Titleblacklist. I need a bit help with it and I cannot work out which of the lines with regexes shall I fix or comment. Today, officially started a collaboration between Bulgarian Wikipedians and the Bulgarian Archives State Agency (COM:BASA). For this sake, the five people, me including, who signed the agreement with BASA, decided to register new accounts and upload the documents from BASA using them, so that not mix these with the personal uploads every user can make, too. We decided to have these new accounts named "BASA_<original username>", which in my case is "BASA Spiritia". However, one of my colleagues have his original username in cyrillic, Подпоручикъ. He reported to me that he is not able to register his new account (BASA Подпоручикъ) with the error message: „Login error The name is not allowed to prevent confusing or spoofed usernames: Contains incompatible mixed scripts. Please choose another name“. Is it possible, in your opinion, to (temporarily) comment the respective regex which prevents him from creating this legitimate username? And, respectively, which line corresponds to this error message? Thank you in advance, Spiritia 16:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

The easier way since you are sysop: make him an account using Special:UserLogin/signup. Read the guide here: en:Wikipedia:Request_an_account/Administrators#Handling_requests. You just need his email address and the desired user name. Did that help? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 20:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
And in addition: the error is not caused by Titleblackblist (same was discussed at en:MediaWiki_talk:Titleblacklist/Archive_2#Why_no_.22incompatible_mixed_scripts.22). It (message: MediaWiki:Antispoof-mixedscripts) is caused by the anti spoof extension. --Saibo (Δ) 20:35, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
One more: a warning: probably the account creation fails also at other wikis which means that SUL does not work as usual: if you want to use that name also at other wikis you need to get a sysop each time. --Saibo (Δ) 20:37, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Enormous thank you. I didn't know about the "by email" option which is quite reasonable. I wrote a long explanation in the "Reason" box. :) Hope everything will be okay now. Spiritia 21:20, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Great to hear that! :-) --Saibo (Δ) 21:27, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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Random Kindness!

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Today, as never in a long time i was in the need not of a compliment or flattery and not of appeasement or submission, but just of somebody who would be nice enough to just stay rational about the situation in this community right now. And the message that i have received from you has really helped me to energise myself to contribute here more. Having spent just few seconds writing your message you have helped not only me, but also took part in helping everybody who finds my contributions useful. Wikimedia Commons can use more people like you. VolodyA! V Anarhist Beta_M (converse) 19:06, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome, Beta_M. --Saibo (Δ) 20:19, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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De.wp noindexing

...I can't tell you how long it's been that way, just from the settings file that talk namespaces including user talk are currently noindexed:

'wgNamespaceRobotPolicies' => array(

   'dewiki' => array(
       NS_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
       NS_USER_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
       NS_PROJECT_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
       NS_IMAGE_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
       NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
       NS_TEMPLATE_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
       NS_HELP_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
       NS_CATEGORY_TALK => 'noindex,follow',
   ),

If you really wanted to know, you could probably track down a bug that was filed requesting it.

cheers, Rd232 (talk) 21:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you again! See for my further action based on your info: de:Benutzer_Diskussion:1971markus/Vorbereitung_MB#Wird_aktuell_nicht_infiziert_-_eigentlich Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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about picture : File:ArtificialTurfSatel.jpg

Hello saibo..

.......

--F. Lamiot (talk) 23:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC).

Moved to Commons:Deletion_requests/File:ArtificialTurfSatel.jpg. Thanks! --Saibo (Δ) 01:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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File:Super Tucano - Operation Agata.ogv

Saibo, (du sprichst doch etwas Spanisch) könntest du mal auf der Webseite, von der das Video stammt, schauen, ob du da eine entsprechende Lizenzangabe findest (ich sehe da nichts)? Und bei File:Traditional_Jordanian_costume_-_Ajloun.ogg gibt es wohl auch wieder das bekannte Gesangs-/Musikproblem. Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 19:30, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

This is Portuguese, not Spanish. Commons links to the Brazilian Air Force which links to Youtube. The Youtube channel belongs to the Brazilian Air Force and the film seems to be licensed under the Standard YouTube License. The film shows an operation of the Brazilian Air Force. No evidence that the film is available under a free licence, as far as I can see. --Stefan4 (talk) 22:16, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for correcting my mistake and the clarification of the copyright status. Now I have nominated this file for deletion. Regards, --Pristurus (talk) 23:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks to you both! Have commented at the DR. According to COM:CT#Brazil works from the Navy could be PD - but this is not Navy. --Saibo (Δ) 02:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Hallo Saibo, schau da bitte nochmal in die Löschdiskussion. Eine rasche Klärung ist insofern angebracht, da der User weitere Videos von der Quellseite hochlädt. Soweit ich das via Übersetzungstool verstehe, stimmt der Urheber wohl einer "freien" Veröffentlichung zu. Wir brauchen aber wohl OTRS? Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 09:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Ja, richtig siehst du das. Ich habe eben Beria gebeten mal drüberzuschauen. Zu dem Hochladen von weiteren Videos: das ließe sich ganz einfach so lösen, als dass wir ihn bitten keine weiteren hochzuladen, bis das nicht geklärt ist. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 13:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Habe mir Beria kurz im IRC gesprochen und im DR kommentiert. --Saibo (Δ) 13:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Belly_Dance_Performance.ogv

Noch so ein Fall; ich denke, da ist wohl löschen angesagt... Gruß, --Pristurus (talk) 15:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Danke für deine Arbeit! Gelöscht. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 15:52, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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File:Kwakiutl statue SAM 1348.JPG

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AKwakiutl_statue_SAM_1348.JPG&diff=67997335&oldid=67941237

Thank you for archiving that discussion, via a link, much appreciated. -- Nick Moreau (talk) 13:15, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. :-) That maximizes the usefulness of that discussion. Nothing is won if everybody who sees the image and thinks "why is that allowed?" needs to do research himself. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 13:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
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COM:AN/U

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float  Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#User Saibo. This is in relation to an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Rd232 (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, too. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 14:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

@Saibo, du dürftest alt genug sein, um selbst zu wissen, dass so was kindisch ist. Du hast es mal auf deine Seite gesetzt, o.k., aber lass es damit auch gut sein. Wir haben diese Woche schon genug Drama gehabt. --Túrelio (talk) 14:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

It looks like they just deleted your article, but I transferred its content to the main article with a bit of reworking [18]. Please don't be so upset with this decision. Remember, Wikimedia has donors, the people who write their checks and pay their bills, and the officials are elected by the community at large. They have a right to have some say in things. I don't agree with you on this case but in general Commons still needs people who are tolerant and inclusive to preserve its content and its ability to speak to all (well, almost all) people and cultures. Don't throw away what you've done over one case where we disagree when we don't even know all the facts. Wnt (talk) 15:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Wikimedia has donors, yes, but that does not mean that they should behave like shortsighted prostitutes without any respect for the human rights, like the freedom of the individual, just to please stupid US media. And I will not continue to waste my time to a project which is ruled by such principles and all users are just saying "yes, big WMF". WMF has to change respectively we need to set up a fork. --Saibo (Δ) 16:32, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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Two comments: Firstly, Donors do not dictate project policies. The WMF is not worried about losing donors over content issues; please don't use that as a strawman. [Among other things, fund drives have been able to end early in recent years.]
And secondly, the WMF is not worried about "pleasing the US media", stupid or otherwise. The Foundation engages in very limited PR - a small fraction of its work, as most publicity is word of mouth - and PR does not dictate policies or project direction. That said, the WMF does care about what is seen as globally acceptable or unacceptable on the projects, which is more relevant here.
There are valid questions about how to safeguard communities; this is one of the WMF's occasional roles. You may well disagree with the decision made, including the idea that Beta_M was a danger to the community - I understand the argument. If you want the WMF or its position to change, you should (continue to) speak out. But please do not make unjustified assumptions about the motives of others just because you disagree with their decision. --SJ+ 02:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I don't see this as a content issue. To me it looked a lot like the Pied Piper leading the kids out of town. If you don't stop him then, when will you stop him? Now I've resisted, and continue to resist, the harsher Jimbo Wales wording of some of these things; I want to make sure we give fair consideration to hypothetical cases in which the editor deserves public sympathy. But if we don't set a boundary here, we have no boundary at all between the kids and whatever might happen to them. Wnt (talk) 06:07, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Just wondering, what exactly can a Wikia wiki manager do? Can you get the IP location of users? wikia:students:User:Ethical Anarhist appears not to be a checkuser, but wikia:students:Special:ListUsers claims that there are three checkusers on the project, although it doesn't seem to be possible to list them. I would assume that Wikia is a protected environment just as WMF projects. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:30, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Some scenarios came pretty quickly to mind; they don't depend on tools, but simply that someone is in a position of relative authority. Wnt (talk) 16:39, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
If he should be blocked for actions here is not the question here (it was on the page we all know and through which he was not blocked). The issue is that he was blocked by WMF for undisclosed reasons (and unless I know better I need to assume that WMF simply overruled the community (otherwise Jimbo had to "eat his words") - no, I do not trust WMF that they got other information than we). --Saibo (Δ) 20:18, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sj, you may have your POV and I have mine (that includes the needed interpretations of WMF's actions since WMF refuses to explain anything). WMF has not the trust to act like that, partly because WMF messed up too much in the past (for example(!) I like to remind of Jimbo deleting many files here at Commons). There es no reason to continue to support WMF's ecosystem and with that inherently supporting WMF's wrong morality and decisions. --Saibo (Δ) 15:15, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Global lock banner on your user page

Saibo, whilst the issues as of late are surely emotive, with a range of opinions of what is the right and/or wrong way to deal with issues once they have arisen, could you possibly leave the global lock banner off your talk page, and perhaps instead clearly and eloquently state what the issues is as you see it? You are more likely to get your point across that way. As you can probably imagine, this is only the beginning of what is likely to be a long process. russavia (talk) 15:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Could you just change the banner saying that you oppose global blocks. Its getting ridiculous that there's an edit war on your own user page. There are other ways you could make your point instead of misrepresenting the WMF like this. Your just treading water here. Thanks. Techman224Talk 17:36, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I think it would be better if you try to calm down a bit and then delete the banner from User:Saibo and User talk:Saibo/Editnotice. I understand that you are unhappy with the recent office action, but please avoid taking it too hard. --Stefan4 (talk) 17:48, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
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Just a thought

You and Naibot are incredibly unhappy with the decision by the WMF Office. I get that. You may think you're making a point by this. Unfortunately, you're not. With all due respect, your actions come off as incredibly petulant and immature. If you're trying to make a point, it's getting lost because the perception (at least by the people you're trying to persuade) is that you're acting like a six year old throwing a temper tantrum. I do hope you return, mind you, from what I understand and can see from your contributions you are a useful contributor to Wikipedia, but your behavior in this issue is counterproductive. SirFozzie (talk) 19:54, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I'd just like to echo Fozzie's feelings here. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 19:28, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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Files of Lushnikov

Glad to greet you Saibo! After a half-year I try to upload the photos once again. The memory of your kind help is alive in my mind and I am here. :) I told the author of the photos to send a letter to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org from alexey.lushnikov@xxx.xx. As I understood, it was sent on 15 March but no answer is visible. Could you check this letter? If you do not have time for it, I ask to excuse me. Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 12:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Doctor Zevago, sorry, I do not continue to contribute here due to the acting of Wikimedia Foundation and some users here. --Saibo (Δ) 16:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
It is your decision mate. I hope it will make your life better, but if it won't, so you'll understand it soon and change the course. I wish to express you huge thanks for your work, for your help, for being a role model for us, ordinary wikipedians. You are one of those people who made my Wikipedia journey comfortable and happy. I wish you and your family all the health in the world. Please care yourself and do all what is possible to be glad and fine, as you are one of the best people I have ever met in the net. I am a grizzled guy and know what I say. THANK YOU DEAR SAIBO! From USSR with unlimited respect and gratitude, Doctor Zevago (talk) 21:14, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words, Doctor Zevago. Much appreciated! Enjoy your life, too! --Saibo (Δ) 21:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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Bilder werden nicht angezeigt

Es ist mir heute in zwei Fällen passiert, dass Bilder in der de:WP nicht angezeigt wurden, sondern nur dieses Bildsymbol zu sehen war. Gibt es da ein technisches Problem? --Nicola (talk) 13:17, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nicola, sorry, ich arbeite hier wegen dem Verhalten der Wikimedia Foundation und einiger Nutzer hier nicht mehr mit. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 16:22, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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Anzeigeproblem bei (Unter-)Kats

So, das Katproblem geb ich mal gesondert weiter, wer auch immer sich darum kümmern mag (vielleicht ist es ja auch alles längst bekannt …). Übrigens werden nicht in allen Kats die Unterkats angezeigt … man sollte Kats nicht über Vorlagen einbinden, da kommt nix Gutes bei heraus, dann werden die Seiten immer wieder mal nicht in den Oberkats angezeigt (nicht nur bei Unterkats, sondern auch bei allen möglichen anderen normalen Seiten), aber gerade bei Kats kann man dann nicht mehr in die Unterkats gelangen, das ist total blöd. Habe bei ein paar der Kats nun per Nulledit die Unterkats wieder anzeigen lassen können, das ist aber sicher nur die Spitze des Eisbergs (der ja in der de-WP bereits bekannt ist, dort ist ja bereits mal der GiftBot über die ganzen Kats mit Nulledits drübergelaufen). So, keine Ahnung, wer sich hier darum kümmert, wollte ich nur mal angemerkt haben. Vielleicht kannste das ja an irgendwen Zuständiges weitergeben. Das war eben die Kat Category:7th-century conflicts, in der die Unterkats Category:620s conflicts, Category:630s conflicts und Category:650s conflicts nicht angezeigt wurden, die Kat zu den 680s conflicts aber schon. Und die Kats wurden dann auch in den Oberkats über das Auswahlmenü nicht angezeigt, somit war das Zufall, dass ich die Kats überhaupt über einen Umweg doch gefunden habe. Das ist echt ein megablöder Fehler. Dann gibt es sehr wahrscheinlich in dem Bereich und auch irgendwo anders noch wesentlich mehr davon, was ich jetzt nicht mal eben so finde.

Man sollte hier auch mal zwischendurch einen Bot Nulledits in alle Kats setzen lassen, wenn man das Problem schon nicht grundsätzlich gelöst bekommt. Dadurch ist das Katsystem massiv beeinträchtigt, weil man sich z. B. nicht auf die Vollständigkeit der Unterkats verlassen kann und auch nicht darauf, dass leere Kats tatsächlich leer sind, wenn sie gelöscht werden usw. So, dann bin ich mal wieder weg hier, wenn mir nicht noch mehr solche Kats über den Weg laufen … Eigentlich wollte ich die nicht angezeigten Kats ja nur in der no-WP verlinken, aber was nicht angezeigt wird, wird dann auch in anderen Wikis erst mal nicht verlinkt, das ist dann das nächste Problem damit; es wirkt sich auf alle möglichen anderen Wikis mit aus. ;-( Liebe Grüße --Geitost diskusjon 01:52, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Geitost, von wo hast du denn den Text zusammenkopiert? Oder hast du den am Stück für mich geschrieben? ;-)
Also alle anderen Jahrzehntekats gibt es nicht - habe sie durchprobiert. Wieso wurden sie denn nicht angezeigt? Es gab ja auch keinen Edit vor kurzem in template:ConflictsDecade der die Kats entfernt hätte. Und wie heißt der Bot in der dewp, der alle Kats nulleditiert? Kennst du die Diskussion dazu (Bot-request?)? Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 02:20, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Nee, nix kopiert, alles selbst geschrieben, extra für dich. ;-) Das ging jetzt aber schnell mit dem Durchprobieren, wo es doch sooo viele Jahrzehntekats insgesamt gibt. Na, dann kann ich die ja mal in Ruhe verlinken gehen.
Das war der GiftBot geweest, ist er wohl einmal alle Kats durchgegangen. (Oder ist der GiftBot eine "Sie"?) War keine Anfrage auf den Botanfragen. Das wurde gleich mehrfach an verschiedenen Stellen diskutiert, nachdem vor einigen Monaten für die de-WP ein neuer Dump erstellt wurde. Da ist das Problem dann verstärkt aufgetreten. Ulli Purwin hatte einige Probleme mit den Mentee-Einsortierungen im MP, auf der MP-Disk. ist das deshalb vorwiegend diskutiert worden (also dort im Archiv), aber auch woanders angesprochen worden, z. B. auf AAF. Müsste ich jetzt auch raussuchen gehen. Benutzerkats waren eh oft dabei, da die ja häufiger per Vorlage eingebunden werden. Mal gucken … --Geitost diskusjon 02:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC) PS: Deine Seite gefällt mir in Blau besser als in Rot. ;-)
Nu hab ich auch den MP-Link: w:de:Wikipedia Diskussion:Mentorenprogramm/Archiv/2011/Dezember#nur nochmal zur anschauung: – kurze Zeit später hatte Giftpflanze dann auf AAF kurz angemerkt, dass der Bot inzwischen liefe (nachdem zwischenzeitlich nix mehr davon zu hören war). --Geitost diskusjon 02:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Dein Text las sich nur so komisch, daher meine Frage. Ich meinte die zehn Unterkats von Category:7th-century conflicts. Nicht alle überhaupt. Okay, danke für die Links - ich werde mal sehen. Allerdings ist mir bisher das Problem in Commons nicht bekannt gewesen. Aber wir könnten es ja mal auf COM:VP bekannt machen und fragen ob es auftritt. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 03:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Ich glaub, der Text liest sich am Anfang etwas seltsam, weil er mir dann zu lang wurde und ich ihn doch lieber in einen neuen Abschnitt verschoben (also in 2 Abschnitte aufgeteilt) und den ersten Satz nachträglich ergänzt hatte. Hab’s dann lieber schnell abgespeichert, bevor ich wieder nen BK krieg. ;-) Na ja, was soll’s?
Dann werd ich mir die anderen Kats wohl noch genauer ansehen müssen, sonst ist da evtl. nicht viel mit Verlinken. Jahrzehntekats für die Konflikte des 6. Jahrhunderts hab ich bislang komischerweise nämlich noch nicht im Katbaum gefunden, da muss man dann wieder umständlich suchen gehen … und so geht’s dann evtl. auch weiter. Kannst es gern an eine geeignete Metaseite weitergeben, ich hab hier bei den Metaseiten wenig Durchblick. Diese Vorlage wurde seit 2008 nicht verändert, trotzdem wurde der Benutzer in der Kat im Oktober nicht angezeigt und die Kat dann gelöscht und im Dezember war er wieder drin. Auch seine Benutzerseite mit der Vorlage wurde zwischen August und Dezember nicht verändert.
Aufgefallen ist mir dabei beim Datum der jeweiligen Anzeigen bzw. Nichtanzeigen nur, dass die Nicht-mehr-Anzeige der Benutzerseite in der Kat kurz nach dem MediaWiki-Update im Oktober erfolgte (die Kat schlug einige Tage später bei den unbenutzten Kats auf), die Wiederanzeige einige Tage nach dem neuen Dump von de: im Dezember (da erschien sie dann in den gewünschten Kats); so hatte ich sie jeweils gefunden (vergleiche mal den 11.10. mit dem Datum des de-MediaWiki-Updates + rechne einige Tage hinzu, da die Spezialseiten ja nicht täglich aktualisiert werden; ebenso den 8.12. mit dem Dump am Wochenende vor dem 1.12. – passt erstaunlich gut). Hier auf Commons gab es ja kürzlich am 21.2. auch das neue MediaWiki-Update, vielleicht hat das ja damit zu tun und der Fehler tritt dann möglicherweise jetzt auch in allen möglichen anderen Wikis auf? Müsste dann ja eigentlich auch auf de-WP wieder zu bemerken sein. *grübel* Vielleicht seh ich mir mal die Spezialseiten zu den unbenutzten Kats genauer an, die müsste nach der Theorie dann nun gefüllter sein als vor dem Update, obwohl die Kats eigentlich ja nicht leer sind, sondern den eingebundenen Inhalt nur nicht anzeigen. :-( Dann sollte man bei solchen leeren Kats vor dem Löschen immer vorher auf „Links auf diese Seite gehen“ und die Links prüfen, auch bei den Vorlagen, die die Kat verwenden. Sehr umständlich. --Geitost diskusjon 17:33, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Wie ja in einer der verlinkten Diskussionen schon gesagt wurde: das Problem müsste mit Testfällen und genauer Beschreibung des Entwicklern gemeldet werden. Wenn du also mal wieder fehlende Kats findest, dann werf sie mir rüber, ich schreibe es gern in Bugzilla. → COM:VP#Pages with categories set via template may not appear in the super categories (nun ohne irgendwelche Kommentare im Archiv: Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2012/03#Pages_with_categories_set_via_template_may_not_appear_in_their_super_categories) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 15:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC) --Saibo (Δ) 14:22, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Hei Saibo, nächster Fall (auf de: gefunden): Kannst du jetzt noch sehen in w:de:Spezial:Unbenutzte Kategorien (solange die Seite noch nicht neu aktualisiert wurde), zurzeit noch aktuelle Version der Spezialseite vom 19.03., 20 h: angezeigt werden hier unter anderem w:de:Kategorie:User hes-1, w:de:Kategorie:User hes-2 und w:de:Kategorie:User hes-3, da die Seite w:de:Wikipedia:Babel/Dialekt/hes (angelegt am 18:14, 20. Feb. 2012‎ vor dem Update auf de-WP, das ja am 1.3. nachts stattfand bzw. 29.2. abends, seitdem nicht geändert) nicht angezeigt wurde. Mir fällt grad erst ein, dass das ja auch so ein Fall ist (hab das vorgestern gefunden und einen Nulledit hineingesetzt). Die Katseiten wurden alle 3 am 3. März, also nach dem Update noch mal geändert. Wahrscheinlich sind sie seitdem in der Spezialseite dringewesen (ich hatte mir das vorher nur noch nicht vorgeknöpft). Ich werde das weiter beobachten und beim nächsten Mal keinen Nulledit setzen, sondern direkt hier posten, wenn ich dran denke (hab mich an das ständige Nulleditieren schon zu sehr gewöhnt). :-/ Soll der Erledigungshinweis lieber hier raus oder sollen wir dann lieber neue Abschnitte für weitere Fälle nehmen? Ich find sicher bald wieder was, kommt ja doch immer wieder vor. Wobei – wenn man auf diese Weise Fälle selbst produzieren kann, probier ich das mal aus und melde mich dann demnächst noch mal, wenn das Fälle-selbst-Produzieren mal geklappt hat …

Nachtrag: Hab die WMF-Geschichte jetzt nicht verfolgt – bist du dann nun hier schon auf und davon? Ja nun, die Anzeigesache betrifft ja alle Wikis und nicht nur Commons oder de:. Wir können das natürlich auch woanders weiter besprechen – besser auf de:, egal wo die Fälle auftauchen bzw. produziert werden? Das Ding ist auf Commons halt nur, dass so was in diesem Wiki dann auch alle anderen Wikis viel mehr mit betrifft, als das woanders passieren könnte – unabhängig davon, ob man hier nun aktiv mitmacht oder nicht. Insofern kann man Commons eh nicht völlig ignorieren. ;-) Liebe Grüße --Geitost diskusjon 04:20, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Geitost! Siehe nebenstehend - wenn du keinen bugzilla-Account hast und dir keinen machen willst (Vorsicht: E-Mailadresse wird öffentlich), aber neue Infos hast, dann gib sie mir, ich übertrage sie.
Ja, ich bin bis auf Weiteres auf und davon - zumindest was Inhalt und Administration angeht. Zu dem Problem schreibe gern wieder hier falls nötig. Ja, das betrifft wahrscheinlich alle MediaWiki-Wikis. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 14:22, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Vielen Dank für Kümmern (diese Tracked-Vorlage kannte ich noch gar nicht). :-)) Es wäre echt ein großer Verlust, wenn du ganz abdampfen würdest; das mit Micha hat mir gestern auch schon gereicht. Wenn mal alle guten Leute aus den Wikimedia-Wikis entschwinden, muss ich mir wohl auch ein anderes Hobby suchen gehen … – ich hatte deinen Inaktiv-Baustein in de: noch gar nicht gesehen, als ich das hier oben schrieb. :-(
Das mit der Mailadresse ist tatsächlich der Hauptgrund mit dem Bugzilla-Account, hab keine Lust auf ne weitere Daddeladresse, wo ich dann von irgendwoher zugespammt werden würde. Reicht mir völlig, dass Yahoo mich nun entdeckt hat und an die recht unbekannte WP-Mailadresse zuspammt. Wer so mit meinen Daten umgeht, braucht nicht damit zu rechnen, dass ich mir nen Account mache (deshalb schreib ich mich auch nicht in die Mailinglisten ein, da sind die Adressen ja auch öffentlich, sobald man was dort postet. Und aus ähnlichen Gründen hab ich ja hier auch keine Mailadresse freigeschaltet; das ist mir alles hier zu dumm (zudem guck ich eh nicht oft in die Mails und finde dann bei der WM-Adresse hauptsächlich Yahoo-Spam vor).
Zum Thema zurück: Ich hab es nun auch geschafft, den Fehler zu reproduzieren (das könnte man dann mit weiteren Katanlagen so fortsetzen, falls wer nulleditiert): Siehe w:de:Kategorie:User arn-4 (grad angelegt mit passendem Kommentar), sollte nun eigentlich automatisch w:de:Wikipedia:Babel/arn enthalten, dort wird die Kat nun jedenfalls seit der Seitenanlage angezeigt (vorher nicht). Wenn da nun keiner einen Nulledit reinsetzt, bleibt das auch so. Purgen hab ich grad noch mal probiert auf beiden Seiten, das hilft definitiv nicht. (Hab nun einfach erst mal das Bausteinchen rausgenommen.) ;-) --Geitost diskusjon 16:02, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, du bist ja eigentlich auch schon so halbwegs aus Wikimedia-Welt abgehauen, ne? Schade ists, mir sind unsere Projekte sehr ans Herz gewachsen.
Habe den Testfall zum Bug hinzugefügt.
Ja, den Baustein kannst du entfernen (steht ja auch so drin) - ich tu ihn nur immer rein, damit ich weiß, dass ich bei dem Thema nichts mehr zu tun hab. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 16:40, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Ach so, ja. Das Folgende hat wahrscheinlich (bzw. hab ich ganz ehrlich grad keinen Schimmer, womit es sonst was zu tun haben könnte) damit nix zu tun, ich bin nur grad in dem Zusammenhang zufällig drauf gestoßen: Weißt du zufällig, was es hier in der angegebenen Datei zu sichten gibt, wo die doch seit Juni 2011 auf Commons liegt und seitdem hier nicht mehr angerührt wurde? Ich werde da gerade überhaupt nicht draus schlau und suche eigentlich nur nach anderen Beispielfällen oder Reproduktionsmöglichkeiten fürs obige Problem. ;-)
Das mit dem Wegsein überleg ich mir ständig, weil tatsächlich so vieles so unlustig läuft, dass es einfach zu oft keinen Spaß macht und ich nun auch auf de: erst mal sämtliche oft frequentierte Funktions-/WPNR-Seiten letzte Tage von der völlig überlasteten, überfüllten, so gut wie nicht verwendbaren Beo genommen hab + so bleibt das jetzt auch für unabsehbare Zeit – wenn man wissen will, was los ist, braucht man nur in den letzten Änderungen die WPNR-Seiten auszuwählen, das reicht völlig aus, muss man nicht noch auf der Beo ständig mit der Nase drauf gestoßen werden. Ich bin in den letzten Monaten wesentlich öfter in anderen, kleineren Wikis gewesen als ausgerechnet hier oder auf de: (en: eh nie wirklich), da ist es meist etwas besser auszuhalten – und das werd ich so auch mal weiter testen. Ich kann mich nur nicht recht entschließen, die ganze Chose mal eben so völlig aufzugeben und es irgendwelchen … [Baustein: setzen Sie irgendwas ein, was Ihnen grad in den Sinn kommt] zu überlassen. --Geitost diskusjon 17:17, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
PS: Was den Inhalt angeht, so hab ich bereits nach der Schnelllöschung meiner letzten Übersetzung aus en: – den Artikel gibt’s in en: nach wie vor und bekam dort nicht mal nen LA, obwohl die Quellen in de: kritisiert wurden – in der Bioredaktion letztes Jahr ungefähr im Mai damit aufgehört, neuen Inhalt bei de: einzubringen und daran wird sich auch zukünftig nix ändern, solange es solche Admins gibt, die mal eben neue Inhalte schnelllöschen. Übersetzen oder Inhalt hinzufügen mach ich deshalb nur noch in anderen Wikis als de:, wo es nicht mal eben so weggelöscht wird. Solch ein Umgang ist einfach zum K… – PAs durfte ich mir für die Übersetzung auch gleich noch gefallen lassen – was daran so falsch gewesen sein soll, dass es schnellgelöscht wurde, weiß ich bis heute nicht und werd ich wohl auch nie wissen – also machen Übersetzungen auf de: einfach keinen Sinn und neue Artikel sollte man sich tunlichst sparen. --Geitost diskusjon 17:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Auf Dateiseiten wird das mit dem Sichten immer mal angezeigt (auch bei lokalen Dateien, weil irgendne Vorlage geändert ist) - keine Ahnung. Bei der Datei hier, ist es aber nicht unverständlich: Die letzte Sichtung der Kat war am 2011-03-20, die Datei wurde aber erst 2011-06 übertragen. Bei Artikeln kommt dann nicht so ein Banner (sondern die Datei wird unangemeldeten einfach nicht mehr angezeigt, wenn es nicht den Benutzer:NowCommons-Sichtbot gäbe) - vielleicht ist es bei Kats anders...
Ich werde vielleicht bei opensuse mitmachen, mal sehen. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 22:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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Need admin review

Hi! We need an unbiased admin review this Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Images from the Romanian Communism Online Photo Collection. It has been stalling for a while. Could you please do it or point me to someone who could? Thanks! --Codrin.B (talk) 02:35, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Codrin.B, sorry, I do not continue to contribute here due to the acting of Wikimedia Foundation and some users here. I would just wait (it will not get forgotten) - many deletion requests take very long due to lack of good administrative (that does not only include "admins") manpower. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Leaving this deletion request out of the conversation since is minor in comparison with your note, I'm really sorry to hear that. I did some quick reading about that conflict but I am not very clear about various parties involved and who is guilty of what. However, to me, Wikipedia and Commons are all of us, even though there is an organization named Wikimedia Foundation. From what I can gather, the Wikimedia Foundation is formed also from Wikipedians. So if some "don't play nice", they will depart in time, others taking their place. I wouldn't let any conflict stop you from making all the great contributions you did, even if some events can be a turn off. Take a break if needed, but don't go too far. I am sure there are plenty of users that appreciate your work. Best.--Codrin.B (talk) 20:50, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Codrin.B, thank you for your kind words. The conflict is not an easy to understand one, indeed. The Foundation is partly built of elected (officially) Wikipedians (parts of the "board"), yes - but the decision making circles (or e.g. Sue Gardner) are not Wikipedians (at least not elected Wikipedians) to my knowledge (which is not very good). If you would know that a ship is sinking or commanded by pirates would you donate much of your time to repair and build that ship? I don't guess so. That is the reason I decided to not continue to contribute to WMF's ecosystem. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:54, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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Konflikte

Vielleicht kann man das Thema um die Stiftung auch noch mal anders und allgemeiner diskutieren und aufarbeiten, wo auch immer (hier im neuen Abschnitt, diese Disk., woanders hier, irgendwo auf de:, per Mail, …, bin unschlüssig), Ideen gibt’s dazu ja bereits einige. Ich hab nur den Eindruck, dass die Fronten da sehr festgefahren sind. Gibt es vielleicht so was wie Vermittlungsausschüsse hier für solche Fälle? Wenn jetzt schon Leute wie du hier keine Lust mehr haben (und immer wieder Kritik von allen möglichen Seiten kommt), ist es jedenfalls nicht gut um Commons (oder Wikimedia) bestellt, so viel dürfte klar sein. Ist alles nicht sonderlich motivierend jedenfalls; das mit der Suche nach neuen Mitarbeitern oder gar -innen kann man sich da echt sparen und sollte sich lieber verstärkt der Lösung von Konflikten widmen und Mediatoren vom Geld bezahlen. Liebe Grüße --Geitost diskusjon 14:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Ich weiß nicht genau was du diskutieren magst bzw. welche Vorschläge du hast. Wenn du willst, kannst du User talk:Saibo/WMF verwenden, klar. Vermittlungsausschuss gibt es in Commons nicht - aber was willst du vermitteln? "Community vs. Wikimedia Foundation"? ;-) Ich hätte die Idee, dass ich mich zur nächsten Wahl als Steward aufstelle mit dem vorerst einzigen Wahlprogramm global lock von B._M revertieren. Wär sicher spaßig wenn das wahr würde. :-D Das blöde ist nur, dass laut Richtlinien (von der WMF?!) nur Steward werden kann, der sich der WMF gegenüber ausweist - und DAS werde ich sicher nicht machen.
Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 21:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Schade, dass es hier keine VAs gibt (aber sie funzen ja schon in de: nicht wirklich), der Vorschlag „Community vs. Wikimedia Foundation“ wäre sicher nicht verkehrt, auch wenn es wohl nur einen Teil dieser „Community“ beträfe bezüglich der speziellen Frage.
Ich dachte, man diskutiert dann insbesondere mal, wie man die Kommunikation zwischen Stiftung und der/den „Community(s)“ dauerhaft/grundlegend verbessern kann und was dafür nötig ist – scheint ja nicht nur mit de: zu hapern. (Insbesondere braucht’s dafür auch mehr Übersetzungen, sonst scheitert es bei vielen direkt an der Sprachbarriere, kann’s ja auch nicht sein.) Bislang gingen Vermittlungsversuche ja immer über irgendwelche anderen Kanäle, aber war nicht wirklich etwas, das man Vermittlung nennen könnte (aber wenn man auch kein Geld für Mediatoren und Ähnliches übrig hat, was der besseren Kommunikation dienen würde). Nun gibt’s ja bereits diverse Themen dafür (angefangen beim geplanten freiwillig einsetzbaren Bildfilter). Die Diskussionen dafür finden dann irgendwo „intern“ statt, Vermittlungsversuche gab’s dazu in irgendwelchen Veranstaltungen oder Chats (wo das bislang wohl eher alles gescheitert ist). Die Übersetzungen der Informationen können die jeweiligen „Communitys“ dann alleine bewerkstelligen, sonst gibt’s halt nur Englisch für alle. Alles ziemlich subopti. Wundert sich noch irgendwer über weitere Probleme und Missverständnisse oder was auch immer? Ich nicht.
Die letzte Umfrage zur Gelderverteilung war auch schon wieder so ein Beispiel. Mann Mann. Dabei hätte ich einiges anders gemacht, wenn ich der Stiftung schon im Voraus ein paar Tipps hätte geben können. Brauchst dir nur meine Disk. auf Meta zu begucken, da hab ich dazu einiges zusammengeschrieben (wenn du noch Lust auf Lesen hast). ;-) Da ist so einiges schiefgelaufen. Ich glaube, dass sich mit besserer Kommunikation miteinander alle möglichen Folgeprobleme einfacher lösen würden, egal wie sehr die Positionen differieren mögen. Ist halt zurzeit etwas unklar, ob das wirklich alles so von der Stiftung auch gewünscht wird oder einige Dinge doch lieber irgendwo intern entschieden werden sollen. Mir ist noch nicht ganz klar, was ich davon nun halten soll, was so alles passiert. Bei vielen der Themen bin ich noch sehr in der Meinungsbildungsphase. --Geitost diskusjon 01:48, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Nein, ich habe ehrlich gesagt keine Lust auf Lesen (die Umfrage, sah ich mir auch nicht an, als sie lief); kann ich mir aber sehr gut vorstellen, dass die schief ging. ;-) Bezüglich deiner weiteren Ideen stimme ich dir zu - ich habe jetzt aber keine Lust darauf für die WMF etwas zu machen, was deren Job wäre, nein. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 13:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Na ja, kann ich ja verstehen. ;-) Schaun mer mal, wie’s so weitergeht, immerhin wurden meine längeren Anmerkungen dort in Englisch nun jedenfalls gelesen. :-) Bin gespannt, wie’s so weitergeht … Man weiß nie vorher, was die Sache so alles weiterbringt, was man so macht. Insofern ist es besser, auf die Dauer irgendwas zu machen, wenn was sehr stört. Und sei es, darüber weiter in der Diskussion zu bleiben. Wer weiß, was von dem, was wir hier so schreiben, alles auch ankommt und irgendwas bewirkt? Grüßle --Geitost diskusjon 14:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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meta:Talk:Global_bans#An_alternative_relating_to_overturning_vs_opt-in

meta:Talk:Global_bans#An_alternative_relating_to_overturning_vs_opt-in – Since your opinions on global bans and global locks are so strong, perhaps you should examine NULL's proposal. Any comments you wish to share there would be welcomed. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 21:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Michael, thanks for this notice. However, I am not active at Wikimedia anymore. You are welcome to mention my thoughts or User:Saibo/WMF there. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 21:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Wouldn't this discussion be a perfect chance for you to change the global block policy and maybe try to get the office action changed? --Stefan4 (talk) 21:32, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Sure, a good idea that some projects do not need to use global locks - as you can imagine. But I am not active anymore. That said, the global lock would still be wrong even if Commons would exempt. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Da hat man gerade erst vor 1 Monat die Metaseite „Global bans“ übersetzt und dann bricht die große Diskussion aus. ;-) Na, was soll’s? Hoffentlich war die Übersetzung einigermaßen passend, die Diskussionen um die Seite hab ich nämlich bislang nicht verfolgt … und deinen Standpunkt zu den „globalen Verboten“ (wie ich sie mal genannt hab, es wird ja ein formales Verbot ausgesprochen, die Wikis bearbeiten zu dürfen, „Verbannung“ erschien mir dafür nicht ganz passend, man wird/würde ja nicht irgendwohin verbannt) bzw. den Zugriffssperren (locks) auch noch nicht ganz durchschaut. Kann man das irgendwo aufs Allgemeine bezogen nachlesen? Vielleicht hast du ja Lust, dir mal die Übersetzung anzusehen, ob das für dich so stimmig aussieht? Da ich mich wie gesagt mit dem Thema noch nicht großartig vorher befasst hab. Ich fürchte, ich habe bei den globalen Was-auch-Immer (block, lock) noch nicht alles ganz verstanden. Falls also bei der Übersetzung irgendwas nicht ganz passen sollte … kennst ja die neue Übersetzungsfunktion inzwischen schon etwas. Wenn du nicht magst, kann ich’s auch nicht ändern … Grüße --Geitost diskusjon 01:01, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Wie wärs mit "globale Benutzersperrung"? AFAIK ist der "global lock" dasselbe, wie lokale "blocks" aber eben überall. Nö, ich habe keine Lust, sorry. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 13:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Iss auch nich schlümm. ;-) „Globale Benutzersperrung“ oder „-sperren“ sind ja schon die "global blocks", geht ja nicht, denselben Terminus für 2 unterschiedliche Begriffe zu nehmen, da es ja eben mehr als nur ne einfache Sperre ist. ;-) Bei der Zugriffssperre (lock) kommen die Leute ja im Gegensatz zur einfachen Sperre (die’s zurzeit ja für die angemeldeten Benutzer noch gar nicht gibt, halt gar nicht mehr in den Account rein, können sich nicht mehr einloggen, Einstellungen und Beo ansehen oder Mails via Wikimail versenden (das Konto wird halt nicht nur einfach gesperrt, sondern zugeschlossen, Tür zu, draußen bleiben eben, man kann dann nur noch Wikimails selbst empfangen, wenn ne Mailadresse eingetragen ist, auch wenn das Konto gleichzeitig noch umbenannt wird – hat Barras gesagt, der muss es wissen). Das wäre mit einer normalen Sperre ja dann möglich, wenn’s sie mal für angemeldete Konten gibt, insofern ist’s ja schon noch ein bissel was anneres. Na, ich werd mir zu diesen Themen noch mal einige der Diskussionen reinziehen, mal sehen, was dabei so rauskommt … --Geitost diskusjon 13:47, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Ah, man kommt dann nicht mehr in den Account rein? Wusste ich nicht - ist ja noch bescheuerter. Wie soll man dann die diversen E-Mailbenachrichtigungen deaktivieren? Nunja, mir egal. Solln se machen. --Saibo (Δ) 16:09, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Daran hatte ich noch gar nicht gedacht, auch ein interessanter Nebenaspekt, der ja insbesondere für Konten zutrifft, die bereits länger dabei sind. Im Zweifel müsste man dann die Mails einfach automatisch in den Spamordner verschieben. --Geitost diskusjon 22:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
"Einfach" für alle nicht-DAUs und E-Mailprovider, die entsprechende Filtereinstellungen bereitstellen (denn beispielsweise auf Mobilgeräten, kann man eher selten filtern), ja. ;-) Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 11:11, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
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Kann natürlich passieren, dass dadurch dann (zu Recht) der Absender dieser als Spam gekennzeichneten Mails in irgendwelchen Spam-Blacklists der Provider gelistet wird, wenn das bei zu vielen Mailadressen passiert, wenn Leute ihre Newsletter/Benachrichtigungen/… nicht mehr abbestellen können. ;-) --Geitost diskusjon 13:29, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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Martin H. (talk) 19:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, well. Looks more like a DR case to me... ;-) --Saibo (Δ) 00:23, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Morning Sunshine did not think that way - yeay. --Saibo (Δ) 02:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
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Mark resolved

Hello, please mark your request at Commons:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#AC-DC-converter.svg - minor cleanup as resolved if it's completed so that it could be archived.
Sorry for posting here(since you aren't active) but as you replied on your talkpage yesterday, i'm assuming you would see this. --Gauravjuvekar (talk) 10:26, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Gauravjuvekar, done. --Saibo (Δ) 11:51, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Please check now--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 17:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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Jimmy Wales' talk page / enwiki

Hi Saibo, just a courtesy comment to inform you that you got a mention here just now - Alison 23:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Alison, thanks for the you were mentioned service. :-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC) Oh, but, no, please do not notify me of this kind of discussions (esspecially by those people) - just did skim it, no interest in reading that bullshit completely.
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A cup of tea for you!

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg It's great to see you are back. Departure of users like you will only harm the healthy part of Commons, make the WR team happy (not that anybody care about their feelings -- but if you makes them happy, you are probably doing something wrong), and guys from Wikimedia American simply will not give a damn. Commons still is a worthy project after all, even if the current management is a joke. Trycatch (talk) 18:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Trycatch, thank you very much for the tea and your message! :-) However, I am not "back". I am active only in that one topic (and some minor other parts which are not much work for me and seemed to be worth it). I had just written a new paragraph to my "essay". --Saibo (Δ) 18:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, it puzzles me a lot as well -- why Commons still tolerate people who obviously came here not to contribute, but to troll/attack/harass/whatever. IMO any copyvio uploader is a lot better than them, because copyvio uploaders at least contribute, albeit in a wrong way. I'm not sure if such toleration disqualifies the community completely, however (anyway it's usually better and easier to simply don't feed the trolls). Block of Beta_M is different, it wasn't a community decision, it was a decision by the WMF against the community consensus. I never saw anything good done by the Wikimedia US for Commons (in contrast to Wikimedia Deutschland for example), so it would be strange to expect that they will suddenly invent something smart. Fortunately, they do not care about Commons enough to broke it completely. I hope you will reconsider about leaving Commons, however it is your decision (if Commons is not fun for you anymore, there is a little reason not to leave), so good luck anyway. --Trycatch (talk) 19:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
It would be nice if you could also post your opinion here: Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#User:Tarc_.E2.80.93_here_to_contribute.
Wikimedia Deutschland is not really better - a bit maybe, yes but the WMF genes are obvious frequently. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 20:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
[19]: "eins auf den Deckel kriegen [ugs.]", so hatte ich das zumindest auch verstanden. Ansonsten bin ich hier auch nur noch am rumdiskutieren, dann kann man mich ja auch sperren gehen, wenn diskutieren unerwünscht sein sollte. --Geitost diskusjon 16:10, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Ich gucke nicht für jede Wortgruppe in Wörtbücher - ich denke, das ist gestattet. ;-) Mir war zerquetschen bekannt und ja auch hier passend. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 19:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Ich gucke schon recht häufig engl. Wörter nach, hab ja auch nicht behauptet, dass ich die Sprache super fließend könnte. Insbesondere bei so was guck ich dann lieber mal nach, bevor ich mir was zusammenreimen muss. DST hätt ich auch mal nachsehen können, na ja. Der eine bei WR ist auf en als Sockenspieler gesperrt, sah ich grad noch – falls das nicht eh bekannt sein sollte. Hier ist er noch ungesperrt, obwohl es da auch bereits Sperren gab; die letzte unbegrenzte von A.Savin hat RD232 am 31.3. erst aufgehoben. Der schrieb auf WR gestern über dich […] Ist so was hier erwünscht? Ruhig bleiben und nicht unterkriegen lassen, bitte. Auf de: würde so was auf VM durchgewunken (kam bereits vor), da es ja nicht im Wiki selbst geschrieben wurde. :-( Viele Grüße --Geitost diskusjon 20:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Du meinst FredtheOyster? Siehe hier Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Fred_the_Oyster_.28again.29. Ich lese den Müll von der Truppe weder bei WR noch auf Jimmy, the vandal's talk-Seite in enwp (siehe den Abschnitt hier von Alison). Zitate sind also eher meinerseits unerwünscht. Ich betrachte deren Geschreibe als "nicht lesenswert". :-) Ist halt einfach nur noch zum Kotzen hier. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 20:25, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Ich zitier das auch nicht sonderlich gern, dann lass ich es eben besser. War noch am Überlegen, ob ich es nur verlinken soll. Und weg mit dem Müll. Tja, wenn’s bereits bekannt ist bei ANU … Vielleicht ist es ganz gut, dass ich mich mit diesen Commonsgepflogenheiten nicht so auskenne … :-( --Geitost diskusjon 20:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Nun mischt der, der irgendwie versehentlich nach Commons kam, sich auch noch an fremden Stellen ein: User_talk:Mdennis_(WMF)#WMF_fails_to_provide_a_reason_since_2012-03-16. Nirgends ist man sicher. --Saibo (Δ) 21:01, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Tja, und hier auch nicht. --Geitost diskusjon 21:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
@Saibo. "It would be nice if you could also post your opinion here:" Not sure it will change anything, but ✓ Done. Trycatch (talk) 12:08, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! --Saibo (Δ) 02:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
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You have been blocked for a duration of 1 week

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You have been blocked from editing Commons for a duration of 1 week for the following reason: Your behaviour recently is unprofessional and unbecoming to an admin. You are being disruptive, vindictive and frankly a troll. Please, take this in the spirit is is intended and take some time off from Commons. Go outside, eat some ice cream, hug a tree, whatever, just don't edit Commons, since it's clearly not good for you right now. I want to ensure you stay as a user and as an admin, but you're making it difficult for everyone, yourself included. You are a good guy, and a good contributor, but right now your mind's not in the right place, you need to take a chill pill. Clearly, as you are an admin, you can remove this ban. However, I feel it would be best if you were to simply take it as is intended - a chance to cool off and get some time away. A week, a few days, whatever, but please, just have some time off from this place. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so after the block expires. See block log.

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-mattbuck (Talk) 23:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Hum. I've just come here to notify Saibo of Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#User:Saibo, only to find that block message. Now what? Rd232 (talk) 00:01, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
I think if Saibo decided to retire and state this fact everywhere on his talk/user page and then adds comments and even new sections to COM:AN/U, this account should remain blocked.
On the other hand I think autoblock and blocking account creation was wrong. It implies a high level of distrust. Saibo never abused multiple accounts and Niabot=Saibo as some trolls on COM:AN wrote is simply ridiculous: Just compare the language and the knowledge.
If they would be the same person we would have a real multi-talent here: Numerous good contribs in such different areas. But those people are very rare. -- RE rillke questions? 09:37, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Unblock – The community is now considering unblocking you. I recommend taking look at the statements offered by Mattbuck and by Geitost. My advice would be for you to use Template:Unblock and to state that you're ready to be unblocked and why you're ready. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 23:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I hope you will be back at some time since I think that you generally do a very good job. In case you haven't noticed, there is a discussion which involves you at COM:AN#Misuse of Checkuser Tools. --Stefan4 (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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Transfer-Aufräumaktion

Hallo Saibo. Magst du dir diesen Vorschlag ansehen und ggf. ergänzen? --Leyo 12:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Leyo, nein, siehe hier ganz oben. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 12:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
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Photographing photos from old books ?

Hello again, Saibo. I wonder if You know if it is alouded to make photos out of other photos from old books ? For instance from a swedish encyclopedia from 1924-1937 (20 volumes) and a "suppliment" of an other three books (including imperative updates especially from the earliest volumes). Some photos are obviously postcards while some lacks mentioned outher. Only a some photos the photographer is mentioned. I also wonder about old photos in more recent books (an exapple is swedish edision of HP Wilmott's "First World War" (in swedish "Första Världskriget") - some of the photos in this book seems to lack author. F.i. pictures taken on the western front by unknown soldiers. Could You enlighten me , if possible, rules concidering these issues. (And by the way, is postcards free. I've seen collections of postcards but "outside" Wikipedia and Commons). Perhaps You remember I had some problem with my granddad's photos of Siegessäule (as I belived it to be) if You remember, but as it turned out it was a monument in München, which was very embarrising to me. Best reguards anyway Pontus Eriksson - Boeing720 (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not Saibo, but I happened to notice this question. "Simple photos" taken before 1969 are in the public domain in Sweden. Most photos are assumed to be simple. However, such photos might be copyrighted in other European countries such as France or Germany (life of photographer+70 years) or Spain (life+80 years), so it is possible that some language edition Wikipedias might not allow such photos in their articles.
It is also necessary that the photo is in the public domain in the United States as Commons only allows material which is free in the United States. The first thing you should confirm is that the photos are published, as unpublished photos are copyrighted for life+70 years in the United States. Photos from encyclopædias and other books are obviously published, but if you obtain photos from other sources, this is something you would need to check. Swedish photos published before 1923 are always free in the United States, and Swedish photos published before 1964 are usually free as the Swedish publishers would have to submit papers to US authorities in order to keep a US copyright, which probably rarely or never happened. If the first publication was later, you need to check whether the book contains a copyright statement somewhere. Copyright statements are normally in the indicia and look something like "© YYYY Name of copyright holder". If you can't find a book without a copyright notice, the photo is unfree in the United States and can't be uploaded here.
Postcards are published in the same way as books. If they display photos, apply the same rules as you apply to photos in books.
Be warned that the text in Swedish books has a completely different copyright term. In many cases, you will find that the photos are free whereas the text is unfree. You may also find some useful information at COM:BB#Ord och Bild (in Swedish). --Stefan4 (talk) 18:39, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
I thank You very much, for this very detailed answer. You mention that this doesn't apply to texts, however. I have an old newspaper, from 1928. ("Söndagstidningen för södra Sverige" eng.tranl. The Sunday Newspaper for southern Sweden). In this there is a table of currency exchange rates, which at least I find interesting. Can such text be photographed ? Of course I could just refer to the newspaper a such, but I've tried that once on Swedish Wikipedia. I guess the source was not good enough. Frankly I've never even heard about this newspaper until I bought it in an antique store. But with other currencies converted to swedish krona ,it quite easy to calculate the exchange rate of all mentioned currencies at that time. I think a photo of the first side of the newspaper and the currency table together would do as a good enough source. But do You see any problems with this ? Boeing720 (talk) 20:27, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Boeing720! Few, simple facts are usually not eligible for copyright - see Commons:Images containing text - probably {{PD-text}} would apply. Cut the photo / scan to the table only. Then it is probably okay. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 21:33, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I think I understand how to do this. And thanks for Your help. Cheers Boeing720 (talk) 03:54, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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Picture OK ?

Hello again, and sorry to bother You. I have now made a "creation" which includes the head of a swedish newspaper from 16:th December 1928 and the currency exchange rate table of this newspaper. But my photographical skill is obviosly limited. It was very difficult to get a clear shot of the exchange rate table. So I included a notepad clear typing of the original text -and an english translation. Name of file:Exchange rate source of 16 Dec 1928.JPG". I find it interesting and useful for converting all 15 currencies of that time. However I'm unsure if it's OK due to "hard text". It's ment as source/proof rather than a picture. If it's not up to standard of Commons, please erase it. If possible. Cheers ! Boeing720 (talk) 17:52, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Boeing720! Note: I have converted the file name in your comment to a link - for easier handling.
COM:PS is very broad - but has limits when it comes to pure text which could be better stored as text on wiki pages. I think it is okay to show the real look of such a newspaper.
Regarding copyrights: I have added a bit to the file's description page about that.
You best use a scanner instead of a photo camera. If you use a photo try to set it to "macro" mode. May help.
Please ask such questions at COM:HD in the future - I plan not to be really active here and not to donate my time here (see top of page). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I have now read Your statement above. I do appriciate it. For my self I do thank You very much for all help You have given me during the last months. And by the way - when I red the word "scanner" I suddenly felt quite stupid. Thing is I've reasonly bought the camera (Nikon Coolpix L310, Ibelive) - I think (or hope rather) it's about as good as a compact camera can be. I had previosly taken long- and mid- range shots only. And the camera manual is thick indeed, so I have simply "got stuck" in this stupid "camera idea", totally forgotten that scanners actually do exist. I've been using an USB-grammophone for converting my vinyl records and put the scanner away due to lack of space. (not an excuse but a kind of explination...)
Once again I do thank You for all advices. Cheers and best of reguards Boeing720 (talk) 16:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 :-) Okay, nice. Wish you all the best! --Saibo (Δ) 01:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:Governor's Award for Achievement in Export from New York State - DeFrancisci Machine Corporation 1984.pdf

Greetings. Why does this file not show a thumbnail? For what it's worth, keep the faith. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 00:00, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi there! You can read at thumnail url: "Error creating thumbnail: convert: no decode delegate for this image format `/tmp/magick-XXu7yKYK' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/532. convert: missing an image filename `/tmp/transform_c4d253-1.jpg' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/2970." not sure - maybe some not supported image compression inside the pdf? If that content is copyright-wise okay, please upload it as png - it is just one page anyway! Pdf is not useful here. Btw: please use COM:VP or COM:HD (for "easy" questions) instead of my talk page. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:14, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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COM:AN#Template:Uwlsubst

Was there a specific reason why we (or you, can't remember) decided to set up a different category?

Was it to allow checking? Or for historical, technical reasons (UpWiz didn't subst: it)?

I know I am guilty. -- RE rillke questions? 16:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Ja, das war Absicht (entweder habe nur ich es entschieden, oder vorgeschlagen, oder ich finde es einfach nur eine gute Idee). Hintergrund: bei den uwlsubst-Tags bekam der User noch keine Talk-Nachricht. Bei nld fast immer schon (per Script oder Bot). Siehe auch die Kategorieheader in Category:Media uploaded without a license. Oder was auch immer. Man sieht z.B. so auch, wie viel dem Nikbot durchrutscht. ;-) Man sieht auch, wie viele Dateien überhaupt so hochgeladen werden mit der Option "ohne Lizenz". Ich finde die Unterscheidung ganz praktisch. Weiter will ich das nun nicht durchdenken. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Danke! Sehr einleuchtend. -- RE rillke questions? 08:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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Renamerequest

Hehe, Danke. -- RE rillke questions? 21:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, gern doch, das konnte ich nicht stehen lassen, als ich es eben wegen de:Benutzer_Diskussion:Saibo#Tippfehler sah. :-) Nettes Script übrigens mal wieder! Ich erschrak allerdings etwas über die vielen Fehler, die doch in der langen Zeit schon x Leuten aufgefallen sein müssen (aber nicht korrigiert wurden). Geht wohl noch mehr Leuten so wie mir. Nundenn, schade um meine geliebten Projekte - es soll eben nicht sein. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 22:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Kann natürlich sein, dass alle, die den Fehler bemerkten, wie ich die Suche (Suchbegriff: das falsche Wort) bemühten, aber die Seite nicht fanden. bugzilla:37578 Ich fand sie dann über die Hilfefunktion. --Saibo (Δ) 00:36, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Sehr erfahrene User benutzen und sehen die Funktion allerdings nie (wenn sie nicht testen), denn die sind dann selbst Filemover. Auch die ganzen alten Hasen (Monobookler), die nicht Filemover sind, kannten die Funktion vllt. gar nicht, weil das Tab so weit rechts ist. Die mit Vector kennen die Funktion allerdings vllt. auch nicht, weil Vector sie ja versteckt. Vielleicht also doch nicht so viele User. Hast du Statistiken wie viele der Umbenennungsaufträge per Script abgesetzt werden? --Saibo (Δ) 11:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Zum einen das, zum anderen bekommen ja alle Nutzer mit ihrer Willkommensnachricht gesagt, sie sollen {{rename}} verwenden. Statistiken habe ich nicht, denn dazu müsste ich AbuseFilter abusen oder ein Script schreiben. Wenn es dich oder jemand anderen brennend interessiert, würde ich es machen.
Es ist eben nicht so einfach alte Strukturen aufzubrechen, zumal manche Nutzer denken, Dateiumbenennung sei reine Zeitverschwendung. So wie MediaWiki das momentan macht, ist da auch schon was dran (es dauert momentan >1 min. pro Verschiebung +es treten haufenweise Fehler auf). -- RE rillke questions? 12:17, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Naja, man könnte stichprobenhaft mal die Renamerequests ansehen. Gleiches könnte man mit einer Stichprobe aus dem Verschiebelog machen, um eine Zahl zu bekommen, wie es bei den Dateien aussieht, die wirklich verschoben wurden. Per Abusefilter zu Vorlagenbenutzung und Scriptbenutzung zu loggen ist natürlich auch elegant - aber auch ein wenig ein Abuse des Abusefilters, ja. ;-) Da die Statistik aktuell zu keiner Entscheidung benötigt wird, können wir aber wohl auf den Aufwand der Statistikerstellung nur der Interesse halber verzichten. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 12:54, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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google is everywhere

Mah, got pulled to copyvio "hunting" like in old times... but I will stop now - didn't I say that I don't will continue? ;-) If someone likes to continue with some google images:

--Saibo (Δ) 16:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

  • tumblr is also kind of interesting. ;-)
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Deletion request closed

Hi, I have closed two deletion requests that you opened six months ago: Commons:Deletion requests/File:IR 17 on Mga Pozze.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Company No. 11 on Mte Chiesa.jpg. Cheers, Thuresson (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! --Saibo (Δ) 01:19, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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permissions

Hi! I see you've been tagging a few of the images I uploaded as lacking permissions. Please don't do that! If you look at the two collages, you'll see that both are put together from stills from the linked category, all of which were commissioned by Wikimedia Foundation and are all clear as far as permission goes. The one I uploaded by Jay Walsh (a WMF employee) I got directly from Wikimedia Foundation. Thanks!--Sageross (talk) 01:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

"Please don't do that!"? How do you mean that? It is clear what has to be done, thanks for complying with COM:L and COM:OTRS. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:42, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm just not sure why that's necessary. The collages are made from images that have clear permissions, so I don't see why OTRS is necessary. The one by Jay Walsh I guess I can send an OTRS email for, it's just an unnecessary hoop.--Sageross (talk) 01:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
If you can show the permission from the photographers otherwise (website, previously published at Commons,...) that is fine too - just add the links to the file page. It is useful to use derivativeFX to upload collages of images already on Commons. Outsiders (reusers) should be able to see why/how/that the photographer granted permission. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:56, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Very well. I linked the files the stills come from, and asked Jay Walsh to email OTRS.--Sageross (talk) 02:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, that is much more transparent now. --Saibo (Δ) 11:49, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
This section is not resolved. It is clear that these were uploaded by Wikimedia employees at the time of their employment and are clear as far as permission goes. Threatening to deletion them to satisfy some overly-simplistic idea that Jay Walsh may not have given his permission is reckless and counter-productive. Please stop wasting people's time. Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 03:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Sure, it was resolved for me. Regarding "clear that these were uploaded by Wikimedia employees" - please imagine you are your uncle and stumble over that picture somehow. How should he know that Wikimedia internal relation? Same applies for e.g. File:Great Feeling.ogv, File:Edit Button.ogv, File:Nice People MEDIUM.ogv, and File:Wikipedia User Name MEDIUM.ogv. WMF is king, hm? No problem, have fun with those WMF failures. ;-) I hate it. Thanks for appreciating and understanding. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 11:43, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
This is an absurd straw man argument. The fact is that you know the connection and you are deliberately creating controversy based on your antipathy of the Wikimedia Foundation. Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 01:24, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
I know - but re-users dont. Thanks for understanding COM:L - yes, I know, many newbies like you have problems. Don't worry. --Saibo (Δ) 01:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
The images are legitimately tagged. Commons has no requirement that uploaders be the releasers of the license, only that the license be legitimate. There is no requirement for proving that fact other unless there is legitimate suspicion of fraud. You have no suspicion. There is adequate suspicion that your only purpose is to harass the employees and Wikimedia Foundation organization. --Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 01:55, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Maybe also WMF is able to learn: Commons:Village_pump#Saibo_maliciously_tagging_work_with_clear_licenses (perm.) That is done here, hopefully. --Saibo (Δ) 12:33, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Please help

Hi, don't retire, we need you, you are great. Please look at this[20], they would like to delete my very rare unknown object pictures. Please contribute on the discussion. I appreciate your wisdom and extensive learning on these matters. Thanks. I am User:Ramon FVelasquez. Cheers.--180.191.155.56 09:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ramon, please comment yourself in the deletion discussion (you are encouraged to do so - no need to respond on your talk page since that likely will not be seen). Explain what you intended the pictures for respectively why they are okay regarding copyrights (COM:DW, COM:FOP). Oh, and please log in if possible. We sometimes have people faking identities. I have commented regarding the ufo images. Research has to be done regarding the derivative works - I am not in the mood to do so currently. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Email removal request

Thank you for you advice, This is my work, it up sets me that some one would change anything, everything that I uploaded has been changed to a new name or the copyright information has been changed. I do not think that I could live with hate mail. If you would be so kind to remove my name so I do not get the mail you talked about. I'm really just getting to know my way around. Thank You Andy2159 01:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Andy, okay, I have removed your name per your request. Further discussion on that topic at Commons:Help_desk#staff_member_taking_credit_for_work_belonging_to_a_contributor. Thank you --Saibo (Δ) 12:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with this issue. As I mentioned, I was out of town for a couple days, so couldn't step in immediately. I had to rewrite my response three times to wring out some of the emotion. If he wants me to delete the images I uploaded for him, I will, then will have nothing more to do with him.--Sphilbrick (talk) 11:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I will try to help, no problem. We'll see. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Hello Saibo, the ∇ causes problems in my Browser (FF, Win): It makes the line 6 times higher than normal. Text selection is more difficult and when writing there is a big vertical white space. If you like, I make a screenshot. Perhaps you could use ∇ (&#8711;) to at least avoid this problem in edit mode. Thanks and Regards -- RE rillke questions? 09:27, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Rillke, that is strange. Is the displayed as character or is it a UTF-8 box (not in your font)? Anyway, I have changed it (for now) to its numbered representation as you suggested. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:15, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. It is displayed as character. Screenshot. -- RE rillke questions? 15:02, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Crazy WinFox! ;-) I would call it a feature - it highlights the end of my comments. :P Is the page view mode okay? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:04, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
±. Just messy when selecting. -- RE rillke questions? 16:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Okay. At my setup it looks that way (del). --Saibo (Δ) 16:33, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Requesting deletion for File:India Program Team.jpg

Hi, could you delete this picture I have uploaded -> File tagging File:India Program Team.jpg? --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 07:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Done, thank you. --Saibo (Δ) 15:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you - DMCA template

Hi, Saibo. Thank you very much for neatening up the DMCA take-down notices at village pump. I'm afraid that template has some issues, although it should be better next time. Kaldari fixed it up a bit, but I think the third parameter is probably still non-functioning. Adding a link to the image seems like a good idea, but I'm not at all template savvy and am afraid that I might break it even further if I try to add that function. Do you know how to modify Template:DMCA takedown notice so that would work? If not, I can ask for help at the help desk. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 11:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Maggie, I have made some changes to the template and the doc page. Did not test it on the two "real" pages (just on that page) - but it should work. Note that parameter 3 is not needed anymore (it was redundant with parameter 1). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, Saibo. :) That's awesome! I appreciate it. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 15:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hmmmm, can you clarify what you EXACTLY ask from me ?

With this question.

Let's recapitulate. I am the author of this image. I uploaded it with due description and due free licence. Why on earth are you asking that I give permission again? How would that make a difference that I send an email to permissions to confirm that I uploaded it (which everyone can see in the history of the image), that I posted it under a free licence (which again everyone can see in the history of the page) and that I am myself (which... is something that I can not really know I could prove more than I have done in the past). Do you mean I have to send an identity card to prove my identity ??? Anthere (talk) 15:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anthere, sure: it was not obvious that you are the author (you are the photographer, right?) for two reasons: You wrote "source=Florence Devouard" instead of "{{own}}". Second you did indicate anyhow in the author field that "Florence Devouard" is you. How should one know that? Either you could link that real/alias name to your userpage or maybe append the user name enclosed in (). I hope that is clear now? :-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 16:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Saibo, I believe you've got the wrong idea of how things work. Anthere's image was uploaded in November 2007, in other words before {{own}} was even invented. The burden of proof therefore lies with you to give reasonable evidence that Anthere isn't herself, rather than slapping people with a warning template because they didn't use a non-existent template. Deryck Chan (talk) 16:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Deryck, Commons:Project_scope#Evidence. If the template was not invented at the time of upload there are other means of making authorship clear: plain text - "source: I shot this bloody photograph. author: Florence Devouard (Anthere)". Oh, and, regarding "stoneage"... see: that upload help page at 2006-05-14 (closely look at the description of "source" and "author"). Thanks for your appreciation. --Saibo (Δ) 16:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Again, I implore you to read what the policy you cited looked like when Anthere uploaded her picture. As for your other concern, I think Wikimedia Board of Trustees has made it rather clear that Florence Devouard = Anthere. Judging someone's actions in 2007 by your personal 2012 standard doesn't really work. Deryck Chan (talk) 16:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
As for your other link, I think the headline "How to make perfect image uploads" says all about how strictly the guidelines are meant to be enforced. But I digress. Deryck Chan (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Policies evolve and some old content can simply be unlucky not to get grandfathered if the circumstances are bad. ;-) However, read the first two sentences of section Commons is freely licensed Wikimedia Commons is freely licensed. I something "free" if only someone's "board of trustees" members can re-use that file (because others cannot verify that the given author freely licensed the file)?
I don't care for someone's board of trustees, why should I? Also you cannot expect that every possible re-user knows that. Keep in mind that enabling re-use is a goal of COM:L. So, let's please get that stuff right. --Saibo (Δ) 17:05, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Two things

First, you suggest that I should link my real/alias name to my userpage. This has been done many years ago. Commons is not my primary project, hence the fact that I mention at the top of my common user page the link to my meta page. My meta page is extremely crystal clear about the connexion between my real name and user name. You apparently came to my user page and took the time to post the warning. But you did not take the time to check that information following the relevant link. Just one click. I think that is unfortunate.
Second, it is perfectly ok that you do not know the link between the two names. We can not know everyone. What I find disturbing is that you request the uploader to follow the commons permission procedure in a case where I consider that this is of really little benefit. To make things more clear, I am both an admin here AND an OTRS volunteer. When I deal with an image which is representing a famous actor and which is obviously a professional picture, my first move is to ask for the permission on OTRS. Both because I am not sure the uploader is the copyright owner, or because I think he is but did not fully understood what free license means. And when it is a professional picture and/or the picture is the one of a famous person or famous building, I think it important to make doubly sure we are not infringing anyone's rights.

Now, in my case, even if you do not know the correspondance between my user name and my irl name, you may see that I am an oldbie, that I am an admin here (even if very little active. My main use of admin rights is precisely to check rights of deleted content). You can see that the image is used on a local wiki where not everyone has an edit right. And finally, you can see that the image itself is really a amateur picture. In short, the risk that I am not doing it right and the risk of a violation are really limited. Asking the uploader to follow OTRS permission in such cases appears to me to be putting a huge burden of work on OTRS volunteer for a very low risk. I am not sure this is the best way to focuse our energy. As an OTRS volunteer, I am happy to check and recheck and be really strict for many cases. But I am far less willing to put time into checking permissions of old contributors who provided amator images of wikimedia meetings. This is my view. Save OTRS volunteers energy !

All my best

Anthere (talk) 16:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(Why do you write sooo much...?) Again, have a look at your file page with someone else's eyes. Only insiders can find your meta page. For more, see my answer above your comment. Thanks. --Saibo (Δ) 17:05, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, too, Kaldari (WMF). You may continue at Commons:Village_pump#Saibo_maliciously_tagging_work_with_clear_licenses regarding my "trolling" (I hope you have chosen that word wisely...). ;-) --Saibo (Δ) 17:39, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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User:Kaldari is not a staff account. Kaldari (talk) 18:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh, really? ... --Saibo (WMF) 18:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

herois 5 (gala gaudi 2011)

I try to explain what happened. In the edition of 2011 of the prizes Gaudí, Amical Viquipèdia was accredited as photographers by "Roman y asociados". The day before, for problems of space, they go to us withdraws the accreditations.

      Bona tarda,
      Disculpeu les molèsties però per temes d'aforament no podrem donar resposta a la 
      vostra petició d'acreditació per als III Premis Gaudí per al proper dilluns 17 de 
      gener   a l'Artèria Paral·lel.

      Si necessiteu informació o imatges sobre la celebració de la Gala dels III Premis     
      Gaudí no dubteu en contactar-nos.

      Salutacions,
      JUDITH PASCUAL  Executive Planner   

But we reached an agreement with the organization: they would hand us over pictures of the soiree. And effectively they handed us over about eighty pictures.

       Hola Joan,

       Que tal?! Us faig arribar les dades de la ftp on trobareu totes les fotografíes dels 
       actors nominats als III Premis Gaudí.

       ftp://premisgaudi2011.romanyasociados.es/ (a la carpeta hhtpdocs)
       Usuari: premis
       Password: gaudi2011
       Salutacions,
       Judith 

When we proposed the subject of the licenses to them, they addressed the photographer for us.


        Moltes gràcies per les fotografies. Estem en fase d'identificació dels personatges.
        De tota manera, en  penjar aquestes fotografies, heu de saber que tot el material de
        la Viquipèdia pot ser reutilitzat per tothom per a qualsevol propòsit, inclòs l'ús 
        comercial.  I ens haurieu d'autoritzar segons aquest text:
        Afirmo que sóc la persona que ha creat i/o única propietària dels drets d'autor 
        de        ftp://premisgaudi2011.romanyasociados.es/ (a la carpeta hhtpdocs).
        Accepto publicar el meu treball sota la llicència lliure CC-BY-SA-3.0.
        Admeto que concedeixo el dret a qualsevol per utilitzar el treball en un 
        producte  comercial, i modificar-lo segons les seves necessitats.
        Sóc conscient que sempre mantindré els drets d'autor del meu treball, i mantindré el 
        dret d'atribució d'acord amb la llicència escollida. No se m'atribuiran modificacions 
        que altres puguin fer.
        Sóc conscient que la llicència lliure només concerneix els drets d'autor, i em
        reservo l'opció de prendre accions contra qualsevol que utilitzi aquest treball 
        violant altres drets com restriccions de marca registrada, difamació, o
        restriccions  geogràficament específiques.
        Admeto que no em puc desdir d'aquest acord, i que el treball podrà guardar-se 
        permanentment, o no, en un projecte Wikimedia.
        Data i nom de l'autor/a

The photographer did not want to sign the authorization above, but verbally authorized us to using the pictures. Then, we adopted the formule (gala Gaudí 2011) you ask me for an explanation. I can send you the complete sequence of mails. --Pallares (talk) 09:42, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, I am not donating my time here anymore (see top of page). Please ask at COM:HD. --Saibo (Δ) 01:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, can you help me please? I am more of a normal person than a Wikipedian (so it does no count as breaking your retirement)

Could you please write to this fellow and request donation of this image? Someone said you were the best guy.

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Or something like it? I tried, but got no response. But my Deutsch is schlect and I got no response.  :(

Seriously, I would appreciate it if a German speaker could try writing to the lab and asking for the license. It is for an important article:

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I wrote for the donation several weeks ago. Please...help the American Wiki. TCO (talk) 02:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, I am not donating my time here anymore (see top of page). --Saibo (Δ) 01:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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A new message!

You have at least one new message here: Commons:Help_desk#Upload_wizard_is_slow_.28from_archived_discussion.29! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 09:15, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Staff uploads

Hi, Saibo. I just wanted to let you know that I've drafted a mockup of a template and have launched a discussion at village pump. I hope it can be crafted into something useful and informative. :) --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 20:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Maggie, if you strike WMF, maybe. ;-) --Saibo (Δ) 01:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, the province of Monza and Brianza has got a new coat of arms. I have change the old coat of arms with the new! Please, you can check my edit? This is the link http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stemma_Provincia_di_Monza_e_della_Brianza.png Thank you very much... --Simonemb (Send me a message) 18:28, 10 September 2012 (CEST)

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Is it possible to upload de:Datei:Albrecht Graf Bernstorff Portrait-2.jpg from the german WP to Commons ? There is a strange copyright, and I don't know whether it is authorized to upload it by a third person.

I am currently translating de:Albrecht Graf von Bernstorff into french, and would like to get the picture as it is on the german version.

Yours sincerely.

Trassiorf (u) 09:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely Sreejith K (talk) 11:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Your work File:Bronisław Komorowski rotcropped.jpg has been nominated for deletion, because the original image File:Bronisław Komorowski.jpg had been found a copyright violation. The cc-by license was erroneous, in fact the image was ©. Sorry. Mulat (talk) 12:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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