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Replacing a template

Hi Siebrand,
Do you know any bot who can replace licencetemplates? (I had a look at the page of CommonsDelinker, but it seems that it can'T do that job so far).
thx for info --D-Kuru (talk) 13:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

SieBot can do it when I tell it to. What's the precise request? Siebrand 08:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
As you may know some user replace the GFDL 1.2+ licence with the 1.2-only tag for their images. Some of them have a own licence in their usernamespace. User as Fir0002[1] and Muhammad Mahdi Karim[2] (and of course some more) just changed their licences on their personal licencetemplates from 1.2+ to 1.2-only. Even nowhere is written that that isn't allowed you can still use it under 1.2+ because they've once published under the permission to do so. I would like to move all (old) 1.2+ images to a new template so that they can they have the correct licence again. Changing the licence by manually would take a lot of time so I would like to use the bot for that job.
You said "SieBot can do it when I tell it to.". Are you the only one who is allowed/able to tell SieBot to change templates? I don't want to occupy/waste your time with a dozen (or much more I don't know it so far) requests. If you prefer that you command SieBot so that you can co-check my operations/suggestions I can make a list (which would be expanded from time to time) of usernamespace licencetemplates which should be moved.
--D-Kuru (talk) 00:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
If you make clear "replace this template with that template for reason" requests, I'll put the bot to work. Siebrand 18:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Please replace {{Cc-by-sa-2.5-de}} with {{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}. Reason= Per http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/de/ there is no CC-BY-SA-2.5-DE. Rght now Cc-by-sa-2.5-de is a redirect to Cc-by-sa-2.5 Thanks --D-Kuru (talk) 23:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Running. Siebrand 00:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
On Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Template:Cc-by-sa-all I suggested that {{Cc-by-sa-all}} is reverted to the old message "This file is licensed under all Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike Licenses [...] and all future versions issued by the Creative Commons.". If you don't have any other idea (or comment, suggestion or whatever) please move {{Cc-by-sa-all}} to {{Cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}} --D-Kuru (talk) 14:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Not making this change just yet. Very few users showed interest in the topic, and there does not appear to be consensus on the course of action yet. Another thing, can you please create a new topic for every request? It will keep my talk page and later on the archives tidy. Cheers! Siebrand 21:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Categories relating to the Australian state of Victoria

Hi Siebrand. Were the changes SieBot is making to categories relating to the Australian state of Victoria actually discussed anywhere? If not (or even if so), where can I appeal this decision that has made a simple naming system more complex than it needs to be? I did assume that someone prepared to rename sizeable categories such as these might consider discussing proposed changes first with the creator and/or main contributors to the categories. Thanks, Mattinbgn/talk 10:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

see here for the requester of the harmonisation process which I fully support. --Foroa (talk) 10:25, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Category:Panoramic of Mountains -> Category:Panoramics of mountains

Hi. Could you get your bot to move all the images currently in Category:Panoramic of Mountains to Category:Panoramics of mountains? The new category is more in line with naming conventions. Thanks. RedWolf (talk) 16:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Please make this request on User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands. Cheers! Siebrand 23:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Some work by your bot ended up making a spelling error at Category:Bleu Room in the White House.--IvoShandor (talk) 16:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Please report this at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands. Cheers! Siebrand 23:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Mistaken name

I uploaded an image from flickr today and forgot to change the file name. The file name in question is [File:Nested.jpg] The one that I want is an image of a forested valley and hills in Pennsylvania. The other is of some random woman. Could you change the name of one of them for me or just delete my upload and I'll do it over. Thanks. Dincher (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

✓ Deleted. Siebrand 23:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Dincher (talk) 00:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


Your bot is working too fast ;-)

Your bot is causing itself version conflicts. See e.g. [3] where it first changed one category and when it changed the second it changed the first one back by taking the version before the first bot edit. -- Cecil (talk) 12:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

See User_talk:Siebrand/Archive13#SieBot_and_its_moving_mistakes --Foroa (talk) 13:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Not certain that is avoidable with the current way the whole bot framework works with simultaneous processes. Should be easily fixable by just repeating the commands, I think. Siebrand 23:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Your bot is deleting many pictures

I would just like to draw your attention to this as it is leaving many spaces unfilled around many wikipedias. Rhyshuw1 (talk) 21:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

sorry to have to put it bluntly, but there is no use reporting an issue without referring to an example. Siebrand 15:10, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Frage

Ist gestattet dass ich folgende Datei IledeRoss.png ablade, sie bearbeite indem ich in dem Bild die französiche Wörter durch spanische ersetzte und dann dieses Bild mit neuem Namen hochlade? --Cornava (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is. The derivative work must be published under the same license, and must credit the original author(s). Siebrand 20:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Catuncat

Hoi Siebrand, ik heb net een nieuwe replace.py gecommit en in /home/multichill/ kan je de nieuwe commons-commands.py vinden. Multichill (talk) 08:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Nou, de bot is in ieder geval stabiel, zie Category:Scans en Category:Windmills in Germany (dit was niet geheel mijn intentie toen ik dit maakte). Multichill (talk) 13:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done Siebrand 20:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Categorie

Siebrand, kan het om al mijn foto's door een eenmalige actie in één en dezelfde categorie onder te brengen nl. Files by User:Paul Hermans? Groet Paul Hermans (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Er is helaas niet een commando in pywikipediabot waarmee ik zoiets eenvoudig kan doen. Als je me een lijst levert, kan ik daar wel iets mee. Siebrand 20:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Met de bestandsnamen? Op te sturen via mail in een word-bestand? Paul Hermans (talk) 20:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Ja, dat kan. Maar liever in een tekstbestand. Word is zo bloated :) Siebrand 17:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Twijfels

Hoi Siebrand, ik heb sterke twijfels bij de copyright status van de bijdragen van Nicostam. Zoals de GFDL op File:Don-Cossack-Choir-oud-0032 2.jpg waarbij de auteur onbekend is. Of die foto uit 1954 waarop het PD-sjabloon staat wat alleen kan als hij zelf die foto gemaakt heeft. Wat denk jij? - Robotje (talk) 05:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced taggen, zou ik zeggen. Siebrand 17:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Pumice on 20 dollars thumb.jpg

Please see my response at User talk:Rsduhamel Rsduhamel (talk) 07:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied there. Please take your responsibility. Siebrand 17:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Ofbyld:Blokhuis 3.jpg

Hallo, zou jij de afbeelding van de Blokhuispoort willen terug zetten. Deze foto staat onder meer op de hoofdpagina van de Friese Wikipedia. Het komt wat onbeschoft over om deze zonder overleg of wat er af te halen. Met vriendelijke groet --86.91.126.172 11:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC), Behearder Fryske Wikipedy

Ik ken niets van de achtergronden. User:Kved heeft de afbeelding verwijderd. Ik denk dat je daar het beste kunt navragen. Overigens heb ik het idee dat er enige frustratie bij je zit; probeer die ofwel objectief aan het voetlicht te brengen ("ik baal ervan dat"), of laat het weg. Ik zou het bovenstaande kunnen opvatten als dat jij mij onbeschoft vindt, terwijl ik part noch deel heb aan wat je dwars zit. Andere gebruikers reageren wellicht minder prettig op een bovenstaand bericht. Groet, Siebrand 17:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Mijn excusses, ik was inderdaad wat gefrustreerd geraakt, maar dat had vooral te maken dat iets zomaar op "ús haadside" notabene, foto's delete. --86.91.126.172 20:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, fijn dat we het hebben kunnen uitspreken. Er is (of beter was) een proces dat 'CommonsTicker' heet, dat je kan waarschuwen voor wijzigingen vanuit commons die impact hebben op lokale wiki's. Ik heb er met Multicill over gesproken, en we willen gaan proberen dat proces weer actief te krijgen. Siebrand 10:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

SieBot Vandalism

What is the reason for Deborah Harry to Debbie Harry ? 18th century architecture by year to 18th century buildings by date; here year is correct. I'm gonna report you for vandalism. Stop doing these unqualified moves of cats without discussion. There is another example which I'm gonna undo because it is bullshit. --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 08:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Eh? Siebrand 10:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Informed user, User talk:Cwbm (commons)#User_talk:Siebrand#SieBot_Vandalism. --Martin H. (talk) 10:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

This procedure ist fucked up. It has to be possible to find out who gave an order to the bot. Apart from that in the end it's the owner of the bot who is responsible for the bot. --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 11:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

It is possible by the time of category move - answered on your talkpage. --Martin H. (talk) 12:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:Baroque figurines from Val Gardena

Hallo! I have created the Category:Baroque figurines from Val Gardena with the intention to have a category of statuettes with the character of a en:figurine (small size) which are typical of a series of statues carved in Val Gardena in the 18th century. I wonder if it is possible to restore the category under the old name. Best regards --alpinus5 (talk) 11:26, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker problems on the English Wikipedia.

Greetings. I am a member of the Bot Approvals Group on the English Wikipedia. Thank you for maintaining the User:CommonsDelinker bot.

It has come to our attention that your bot has a bug: when it removes images, it does not remove any invisible characters (such as the left-to-right mark character) on either side of the image at the same time. When the image was used in a complex template, this leaves the template in a broken state that is very difficult for human editors to identify and repair. Example. This could be fixed by adding such invisible characters to the regular expression used by your bot.

w:en:User:Gimmetrow says that he has contacted you on several occasions regarding this, but the situation has not been corrected. It was also discussed at the Bot Approval Group here, and more recently on the English Wikipedia's Administrator Noticeboard here. Many are saying the bot should be blocked unless this error is corrected.

If you are willing and able to fix this, please let us know here. Thanks, Quadell (talk) 12:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

P.S. If you want to contact me directly, please do so on my English Wikipedia talk page.

Gimmetrow demanded a fix threatening to block the bot several times. The bot removes all references to a certain image, nothing else. The template shouldn't contain these control characters in the first place. Multichill (talk) 13:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I understand your point of view. I'm just letting you know, the bot will probably blocked on en.wiki and replaced locally with a new bot that removes these characters at the same time, unless this change is made. Quadell (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Issue appears to have been fixed. Siebrand 15:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Category move

Are you really sure, that this edit [4] is correct? Is a museum shall be named as "Please provide a category name in English"? If you really wish to see english name YOU must translate it. I will not do this, 'case it isn't need for ru-wiki. #!George Shuklin (talk) 07:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi George. On Commons we have a policy that category names are always in English. Gallery names can be in any language. Because I intended to find and tag category names that were named incorrectly, I only tagged them so far, and have not yet taken the time to find someone to provide English names for them. Siebrand 08:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Ports and harbours in Poland

There was discussion about movin' category Category:Ports in Poland to Category:Ports and harbours in Poland and You haven't listen it. (now it's here). Could You tell me why have changed name of that category especially when there were two votes to oppose changing? JDavid (talk) 09:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Botjes

Op Commons:Bots proberen een paar mensen om er net zo'n bureaucratische zooitje als de enwp van te maken. Wellicht dat jij ook even op de talk wil reageren. Multichill (talk) 13:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done Siebrand 14:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Rheinbefliegung

Could you please move some hundred pictures with your SieBot from Category:Aerial photographs of Germany to Category:Rheinbefliegung 1953. The first picture of this series is thumb and the last picture is thumb. The vast amount of this pictures is blocking the normal use of Category:Aerial photographs of Germany.And File:Bundesarchiv Bild 196-00896, Rucken.jpg till File:Bundesarchiv Bild 196-06072, Grossherlitz.jpg to Category:Aerial photographs of Germany by Bundesarchiv. Thank you for your help in advance, else it would cost me some days of stupid work. --Luftbildfotograf (talk) 13:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Are you able to provide a list of image that need to be recategorised? That would make it a lot easier. Plain text names or wiki links will do. Siebrand 14:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Berlin images to History of Berlin

Hello Siebrand,
could just explain me why you move all uncategorized Berlin images to Category:History of Berlin? Now it's quite difficult to recategorize them (or categorized them better) as they don't contain the Uncategorized-BArch-Template anymore. Actually, it was a unnecessary and rather senseless action. --Jcornelius (talk) 20:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

It is a command Multichill gave SieBot on User:CommonsDelinker/commands. Please ask him about it. Siebrand 22:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Category:Autographs

This was wrong! Autograph isnt the same thing as signature. See en:Autograph and en:Signature. --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 11:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Eh? Siebrand 19:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
[5] --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 08:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the fact that this happened almost half a year ago, this change was made by a bot - commons_category_redirect.py (seecat -> redirect). The edit before that points you to a real interactive this is responsible for the merge. I suggest you engage into talk with Foroa. Cheers! Siebrand 11:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Category:Baroque figurines from Val Gardena

Hallo Siebrand, remind you of the question, thanks --alpinus5 (talk) 06:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

What question? Siebrand 11:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I have created the Category:Baroque figurines from Val Gardena with the intention to have a category of statuettes with the character of a en:figurine (small size) which are typical of a series of statues carved in Val Gardena in the 18th century. I wonder if it is possible to restore the category under the old name. --94.160.12.75 16:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)Best regards --alpinus5 (talk)
I assume someone changed the category name using SieBot from User:CommonsDelinker/commands. Please check the history of that page just before the time changes were made to see who issued the command. Cheers! Siebrand 17:26, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks but doesn't seem to be so easy to reverse. will have to create a new category from scratch. Ciao --alpinus5 (talk) 19:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Request for mediation

Hello, User:Foroa has recently done some quite controversial cat moves through operating your Siebot at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands‎. I am asking you for mediation in the hope to settle the matter in an amicable atmosphere, so that there is no need for an official request for removing the said user from operating the bot further. Foroa has shown a lack of knowledge of the subjects he moved or refused to move, combined with an increasingly irritating bossy behaviour. I will make it short here (but I am willing to prepare a lengthy and detailed case for an official request, to be sure): Specifically, he has removed several times my requested moves for several Roman bridges, but, when directly asked to give his reasons, displays a lack of actual knowledge about the category naming scheme for bridges. I gave a detailed point by point refutation of his views there. A similar inconsistent argumentation line is also evident at Category talk:South Tyrol, where it is easy to see that his proposed solution actually results in less incoherence both vis-a-vis other the naming system of other states as of the South Tyrol category. But worst of all, he moves categories against the explicit consensus of the community, scolding other users' opinions as "tendentious" and demanding them to 'not challenge him'. I feel this is not the right behaviour for a user entrusted with the bot, especially since, in all three topics, he hardly engages in discussions about his proposed moves. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

A similar complaint was filed by Gryffindor here where I added my 2 cents to it. --AFBorchert (talk) 22:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Your suggestion to take the matter to the here is much appreciated, but without Siebrand nor Foroa as yet taking to the trouble to reply to even reply to the two requests, it is difficult to see about what exactly we should talk there. I am still for an informal, quick and amicable solution, but if this is not possible, it is hard to see how an official request for removing Foroa from operating the bot further can be avoided.
I have written about a third of all WP.EN articles on Roman bridges, uploaded a heap of pictures of those bridges, and reordered the whole Commnos category on Ancient Roman bridges, and I am really not in the mood to let this work be compromised by some user who feels he does not need to justify his actions on delinkers.
I can prove the reasonability of all my requested moves (but, seeing the difficulty of naming some bridges, I am nonetheless prepared to look for common ground), and I will do so certainly in an official request if no willingness to discuss Foroa's recent moves exist. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Disputes about categories and naming them are of all times. Sometimes what you want happens, sometimes it doesn't. Getting completely worked up about it rarely helps. At the moment I do not have the time to look into this case, flesh it out completely, interview involved parties, and suggest a way to resolve this. In general no category move can't be undone by moving it the other way, so no *real* harm is done. Chill, take distance, and reevaluate the case, trying to separate your feelings and the facts. I have no idea what this dispute is actually about. Look up similar named category schemes, and pick one. FYI: Tiberius_bridge_in_Rimini does not look like a category name following the (possibly unwritten) conventions I know. Cheers! Siebrand 21:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
To me neither, so I wonder, too, why my request for moving the name has been declined three times by Foroa. He wants the name of bridges separated by comma from the place name (like "Golden Gate Bridge, San Francisco"), but the vast majority in Commons, as well as the iron rule in WP.EN, is the convention "Golden Gate Bridge (San Francisco)". Nearly all Ancient Roman bridges are named that way at Commons, so why is it so difficult for Foroa to just rename them accordingly? Gun Powder Ma (talk) 21:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
So far, I replied thoroughly on all discussions engaged by Gun Powder Ma scattered over the various category discussion pages and my talk pages. I have no more arguments to add and the here gives an appreciation from a third party. I have nothing more to add to my position and I have seen no new elements popping up. --Foroa (talk) 06:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Fairing gone.jpg

Hi! Sorry, I have seen too late, that the file Fairing gone.jpg has been marked for deletion and now it's already been deleted... Can you please tell me or post somewhere what copyright information was posted along with the picture so that I'm able to check for lack of information!? Thanks ColdCase (talk) 18:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

That was 2 years ago. Tagged by User:Geni, deleted by me. Source: spacex.com, license GFDL-en. Siebrand 21:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

File:Mechouar Tlemcen.jpg

Hi, Why the bot delete this image from Wikipidia please? Thank you--70.55.54.126 15:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Which bot from which page in which edit? Siebrand 18:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
This bot [6] and the place is (look at history please) [7]

And there is another problem. I don't understed, look please at [8] and compare to this file at Rustamid, one pictor is deleted by bot and second File:Rustamid Dynasty 776 - 909 (AD).PNG I can't import to wikipedia french or this file File:Almoravid Dynasty 1073 - 1147 (AD).PNG at [9]

Thank u , sorry for my english, 70.55.54.126 it's my ip. --Great11 (talk) 05:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Everything you point to appears to be a valid redlink removal, exactly what CommonsDelinker is supposed to do. What is the problem? Siebrand 21:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

OGG files at User:CommonsDelinker/commands?

Does Siebot not move .ogg files at User:CommonsDelinker/commands? It would not move File:Budstikka.ogg or File:Trumann hiroshima.ogg. Just curious. Thanks. Wknight94 talk 12:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea. Could it be that those files are used as "Media:" instead of "File:"? If so, i think that is the cause. Siebrand 17:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
That might be more in-depth Mediawiki than I can help with. I thought it might have been a timing problem since it also missed a couple subcategory moves, but I was able to change the order of the move cat's and get the bot to find those (see this followed by this). I could not get it to move those .ogg files though. Wknight94 talk 18:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I was confused. I thought you wanted to replace a.ogg by b.ogg in all Wikimedia projects, but you meant something else. Interesting. I'll have to look into that a little further. Cheers! Siebrand 21:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Woops, my mistake. I hadn't considered that you could read it that way. Sorry.... Wknight94 talk 21:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I confirm, sound and video files are not moved by Siebot, so I move them manually, or put a redirect on the source category which eventually moves them. See User_talk:Siebrand/Archive14#Your_bot_is_working_too_fast_.3B-.29 for the other problem. --Foroa (talk) 22:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Please restore description of a deleted picture

Hello Siebrand. Last year, you deleted Image:Raphael_-_The_Adoration_of_the_Magi_(Oddi_altar).jpg because it was a duplicate of File:The Adoration of the Magi - Rafael.jpg. The problem is that the deleted file was properly categorized and contained a lot of useful information about the painting. Could you please restore this file and delete the other, or simply move its textual content (including categories) to the one that was kept? Thanks. — Xavier, 19:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done Siebrand 21:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Excellent! Thank you. — Xavier, 21:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker

Hello, Siebrand. CommonsDelinker has deleted an image from ja:リスボン条約 in Japanese Wikipedia, but left some garbage. Is it possible to fix such bad behaviours? --fryed-peach (talk) 18:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker only removes from 1 line. Image links should not be spread over multiple lines. Siebrand 05:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

hi, I use this topic because I want to know something. why is the delinker edeting my personal user page? I thought this is my place, where I can do whaterver I want even keeping links to previous deleted files? I just want to ask first, because I would like to redone the delinking, but the bit would repeat this some day later on. greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig (talk) 12:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

You can just undo the edit(s). CD will not return if the file is not added and removed again. Siebrand 19:37, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

SieBot category moves

SieBot is lazy noawadays. It stops several category moves in the middle and some moves have to be submitted up to three times before they complete. --Foroa (talk) 07:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Need some examples... And in case it happens, please do not restart, so I can look at it a little closer. Siebrand 21:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Bot-Edit

Hallo Siebrand, I want to know who initiated these Bot edits [10]. Can't find anything on commonsdelinker. All 400 edits had to be undone manually. I don't want this to happen again! --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 13:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

This is the edit that made SieBot do the work. Siebrand 21:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Category:Canyons of Kamenice

Why you are deleted and renamed the category Category:Canyons of Kamenice? The new name Category:Canyons in Kamenice is nonsensical. I think, a canyon cannot be "in" a river – more to the contrary, a river is in canyons. --ŠJů (talk) 23:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

All 'Canyons of X' categories were named consistently[11]. It is not unthinkable that one of the renamed was out of context. Siebrand 08:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
As you can see, all other cases are categories of canyons in some specific area (in some country or state). Kamenice River isn't a state nor a country, these are incomparable names. Please, read once more my remark which you are answer. Kamnitzklamm or Soutěsky Kamenice cannot be translated as "Canyons of Kamenice", that's an absolute nonsense. --ŠJů (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Category:Waterfalls in Dierovy potok is just a similar case. --ŠJů (talk) 01:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

User:Cathytreks

You blocked this user's IP awhile back. She's now back and editing under the same IP again (User:74.74.75.181) - including harassment/threats. No one else edits under her IP, so a long block won't have collateral damage. Rklawton (talk) 11:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Flags

Hoi Siebrand, your bot removes obsolete versions of flags without replacing them. The correct version could have been found here. The simple removal leaves holes in articles. Isn't replacing the normal procedure instead of plain removal? Best regards, --Gereon K. (talk) 12:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it is, but if an administrator does not first replace, but remove, then CD will remove what remains. It has no knowledge of alternatives. Please reprimand the deleting admin, and tell him to fix. Siebrand 17:41, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Removal of COAs

Following the deletion of dozens of COAs, this bot has removed redlinks from hundred of articles (which is of course what it was supposed to do). The problem comes as hundreds of articles in en.wikipedia now have to be fixed, but there's no way to track which articles lost their coa images. Is there anyway 1) a tag could be added to the talk pages which need a new coa image? or 2) a human readable log could be posted to the national projects and/or wikiproject Nations saying which articles what national coa's were removed from?

Baring this, it would seem reasonable to rollback the last 24 hours of delinkings so folks on the en.wikipedia can catch up. Contrary to what seems to be believed on Commons, most editors working on these articles had no idea the COAs were about to be deleted until it happened (0n a Saturday night, in North America), and are now scrambling.

I'm in no way "organizing" this cleanup, and probably not the person to inform. Just trying to calm what appear to be rather troubled waters on en.wiki. Thanks. T L Miles (talk) 16:26, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Easiest would be to check the edits of CommonsDelinker on en.wp, I guess. The edit summary notes what was done. Siebrand 17:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

cat moves by SieBot

Hi there. Would it be possible to amend SieBot so as to replace (once the images have been moved to the new cat) the content of the old cat with a category redirection? This would help cat deletion, if necessary, and at least would not leave an empty cat that could be repopulated by further uploads. Unless there is a good reason not to do so, of course. Also, I don't know whether there are other bots doing the cat moves, so if you think this should be implemented, please communicate with the other bot operators... Thanks in advance, --Eusebius (talk) 09:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm rejecting this feature request. The reason is that those adding the category moves to the SieBot commands page have to manually clean up. After a move of category members, the remaining category page may have to be removed, redirected, repurposed, or whatever. The bot does not know what to do, and each action will have pros and cons, hence it does nothing. The same is true for moving to a not yet existing category. If a {{move}} was on the source category, it has to be removed from the target category. Not too many admins are that active in this area. If you want one or more of them to change their ways, or need an explanation on a particular descision, I think it is best to approach them. Thanks for understanding. Cheers! Siebrand 09:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, I guess you know what you're talking about. Apparently only the "repurposed" case does not benefit from a {{cat redirect}}, and I personally don't do it very often, but maybe others do. What's the best way to discuss such things, you think? VP? AN? CFD? --Eusebius (talk) 10:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
AN. If there is consensus for a particular change amongst the admins that most frequently use the tool, I'm fine with adding it to the current code. I may not be able to code it myself, but I'll find someone who can. Siebrand 12:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks for your comments. --Eusebius (talk) 12:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
COM:AN#Feature_suggestion_for_the_category_moving_bots --Eusebius (talk) 10:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

ask for your bot help :)

Hi Siebrand, is it possible your bot will move all the files from Category:Ghi, Israel to Category:Givat Haim Ihud? is there any procedure for requests like that? cheers, Netanel h (talk) 14:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You might want to have a look at {{Move}}. Multichill (talk) 16:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Netanel h (talk) 18:11, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

User:CommonsDelinker

Hello Siebrand! Could you please tell your bot that it should hold off from meta pages such as i. e. de:Wikipedia:Urheberrechtsfragen/Archiv/2005/04? It´s a bit counterproductive when you can´t trace back about which image the discussion was held... Chaddy (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Best add a {{nobots}} there... Siebrand 10:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, that´s a possibility. But it´s a bit intricate to add this template on so many (only two examples) pages... Chaddy (talk) 15:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Commons Delinker

I suppose your delinker is out of order again, see e.g. [12]... --S[1] 21:13, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Aside from the slow loading link, I have no idea what you would like to tell me. CheckUsage.php is not a script I maintain, and it is not related to CommonsDelinker. Maybe you expected CommonsDelinker to make the removals really quickly. Well, there was a mass deletion and undeletion, and it looks like CD is still working on that. So I guess the file you deleted will also be in the queue somewhere. Siebrand 08:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
CD got stuck in a look somehow. I have asked Multichill to look into it to prevent it from happening again in the future; meanwhile CD has been killed and restarted. This means that the above image will not be delinker automagically. Siebrand 08:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Why are the images I post on the commons being replaced by newer duplicates?

Apparently some one else also moved some of the pictures that I already moved to the commons. Then you deleted the original uploads. It seems like it would be a lot more efficient to delete the newer versions of the file rather then the older one. Then you would not need to update the corresponding pages. I guess that no harm has actually been done, but seems like kind of a waste of time. M stone (talk) 02:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

See the Category: Supramolecular chemistry for examples. M stone (talk) 02:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The replacement edit summary contains the name of the admin that gave the command. Please ask them. Siebrand 08:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
He is. Look at the last three edit summaries at Supramolecular chemistry! ...from 2008.  ;) Wknight94 talk 16:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Ow, dang :) They were marked as duplicate. Almost a year after the fact, I have no idea about the details back then. Siebrand 17:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Template:Commonscat

Hello Siebrand, at the German template forge we are wondering what Template:Commonscat is good for. Could you leave a comment at de:WP:WVW#3. Parameter für S.p.links, please? Thanks and best regards, --Revolus (talk) 19:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

My bot got blocked once because I was editing in that area. Because I am unble to express myself well enough in written German, I choose to stay out of there. Some links that may contain information on what you are asking about: de:Benutzer_Diskussion:SieBot, User:Multichill/Commonscat_stats. Cheers! Siebrand 10:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer. Multichill already joined the conversation on de.wp. You would not have to write in German. English would do it just as well, if you like. Greeting, --Revolus (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinkerHelper doesn't like me!

Why doesn't CommonsDelinkerHelper like me? See here. When Sv1xv adds one, CommonsDelinkerHelper processes it immediately. Same thing here and here. Same thing with Leyo here and here. But CommonsDelinkerHelper totally ignores me! I am getting hurt feelings.  ;) Wknight94 talk 11:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

And again... Wknight94 talk 09:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Ah ha, it's the capital U's I was using: [13] Wknight94 talk 10:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Addition of category to other categories?

Hi, is it possible to get a bot to add all categories of the form "Category:Sculptures by [xyz]" to "Category:Sculptures by sculptor"? — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 17:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done category.py add -prefixindex:Category:Sculptures_by_ Siebrand 22:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Brilliant! Thanks very much. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 07:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Sure. Siebrand 16:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

One thing

One thing: Do you speak spanish? 'cause I'm from Argentina, and one of your bots has deleted the image Carolina Dieckmann. Contacte me and I'll tell you in spanish. Chumpitaz (talk) 22:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC).

I am not proficient in Spanish. Best try and find a Spanish speaking administrator. Siebrand 16:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

TACK

hi, i'm sure you can find a picture for me, the name of the file, ceci_n'est_pas_un_doigt_d'honneur.png or jpg ! hey i've got to put it on my blog http://hakim-djendi.blogspot.com/

I'm sure you can use special:search. Siebrand 10:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Commons delinker amalgamate tasks

Hello!

To save spamming the history of pages where de-linker operates multiple times, Is it possible for the bot to amalgamate its actions before performing them. Recently the bot removed a lot of images from one page here, and it sorta flooded the history to some extent. Its not vital, but it would be nice :) 129.78.64.103 04:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

To save resources, CD works on a 'per image event' basis. There are no plans to change this. Siebrand 13:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

add an additional function to CommonsDelinker

add a sub-page in the user area of the wiki concerned (for example: [[User:CommonsDelinker/Logs]]) where he wrote everything he has done as the action, such as:
# 2009-05-27: Delete [[:File:...]], 5 uses in the wiki, requested by [[commons:user:the order' bot]]
This allows to monitor the actions of the bot in this list by following a single page and not to remove the bot flag. Thanks. Crochet.david (talk) 07:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

How about fr:v:Special:Contributions/CommonsDelinker! You feature request will not be implemented. Siebrand 13:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but when he delete an image on Wikimedia Commons and when this image is used by a template in a wiki (not as a direct link), CommonsDelinker do nothing (it can't delete the red link). The aim of the log is to informe that an image was delete in commons and indicate that image is used.Crochet.david (talk) 13:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
This is what the (non-functional) Commons:CommonsTicker was designed for. Please ask User:Duesentrieb to revive this very valuable tool! Siebrand 18:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Deleted photo

Hi, you removed one of my pictures, noted: "The file Manhattan02.jpg has been removed, as it was deleted by Kameraad Pjotr because: Copyright violation: it is a derivative of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wi)". In the picture were buildings in Manhattan. The raging bull was shown from the back. It wasn't even the main object and was not presented as such. As I understand, in such cases there is no violation of copyrights. Please undelete my picture and undo the relevant changes in other pages. Thank you, ST (talk) 13:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you ask User:Kameraad Pjotr about this, as you indicated he was the administrator that removed the file. Siebrand 18:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
sorry, I thought it was you for some reason. ST (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Village pump#User:SieBot review?

I've made a few requests on improving SieBot when it moves categories at Commons:Village pump#User:SieBot review?. -84user (talk) 16:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Interesting place for discussion about a bot. Have fun :) Siebrand 06:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker - leaves empty lines

To be specific, I mean this one edit. The bot leaves empty lines in places where images used to be. Maybe it's not very troublesome, but it messes the code a bit. Can it be fixed somehow? Lampak (talk) 21:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Protected edit request

Would you have a look at my request at Template talk:Information Picswiss. I asked to re-add a category you (possibly accidentally) removed. -- User:Docu at 09:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Delinker offline

CommonsDelinker is not active, see his contribs on en.wp. --Martin H. (talk) 00:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC) P.s.: Its not that I missed his promotional links ;) --Martin H. (talk) 00:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Restarted. Thanks for the notice. 'stable' toolserver switched location and the crontab wasn't yet configured. Siebrand 16:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Are the logs available at a new URL? What is the status on {{universal replace}}? Thanks. Wknight94 talk 22:37, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
New url? No http://stable.toolserver.org/delinker/index.php is the right place to look and get a nice error message from the very stable server. Multichill (talk) 22:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh I thought "'stable' toolserver switched location" meant CommonsDelinker was running off a new server, and maybe the logs were there too. Are the replaces done from a different server than the delinks? Wknight94 talk 22:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Delinker and catmove need another kick ? --Foroa (talk) 11:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Reponds

Hello ... I visited your page is not courtesy, but to explain why I deleted all my pictures, I would love to know the bases for you to do, the truth is that you are going.--Mairol (talk) 22:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion to add links in Siebot's edit summaries

In Category:Castle_(Gorizia) 's history page, Siebot's summary reads :

  • Robot: Moved from Category:Castello di Gorizia. Authors: AnRo0002, G.dallorto

Could this be changed into :

?

Teofilo (talk) 06:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit summary size is limited (right?) and that suggestion doubles the size. Wknight94 talk 11:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps it could be done at least for the creator of the category (the one people must warn when using {{Cfd}} . Teofilo (talk) 13:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
The link to the user page is not really necessary. The most important is the link to the talk page. So the minimum improvement would be to provide a link to the creator's talk page. Teofilo (talk) 13:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

COM:AN#Titles of links to wikipedia pages

Hi Siebrand. Can you please comment your deletion (Feb. 2008) and also the topic in general. Thanks. --Leyo 12:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Example of SieBot doing category moves in bits and pieces (and eventually hanging ?)

As discussed earlier, starting from this morning, we have an example of SieBot doing category moves in bits and pieces (and eventually hanging ?). --Foroa (talk) 09:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Move from Category:Category:xy to Category:xy

Hi Siebrand, is Siebot executing tasks like {{movecat|Category:Fairy tales|Fairy tales}} to move the files from Category:Category:Fairy tales as I ordered here or are this requests ignored because of the Category: in the template? I thougt it was a good trick to move all this wrong categorized files :) --Martin H. (talk) 11:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I wondered if it was because they were all red links too. I started doing manually and with COM:AWB. Wknight94 talk 19:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Bot moves gladly from (non-)existing category to (non-)existing category. I use that frequently when bad names or Chinese/Japanese/Russian/... category names are used in Special:WantedCategories. --Foroa (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Delinker

Is down again according to w:en:Special:Contributions/CommonsDelinker. Thanks, --Martin H. (talk) 17:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I restarted it. Siebrand, we should think about some sort of check to notify us when the delinker stopped working. Multichill (talk) 20:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Strange images

Was testing out my new latest files script on toolserver, and noticed some strange images registered onto you: http://toolserver.org/~azatoth/latest_images.php?limit=30&size=40&order=min →AzaToth 01:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

SieBot bug

[14] and look at the diffs between his edits on [15]. Rocket000 (talk) 07:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

See User_talk:Siebrand/Archive13#SieBot_and_its_moving_mistakes. --Foroa (talk) 08:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Delinker out of function?

There are many commands waiting for the delinker to replace files. My command was:

"Replace File:750px-Pbalson 20060527 IMG 3615 commons 2.jpg with File:Pbalson 20060527 IMG 3615.JPG across all Wikimedia projects. Reason: Was in category "Duplicate", exact duplicate"

--Mbdortmund (talk) 23:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Replacements were broken a few weeks ago - for an unknown reason. I have asked Bryan to look into fixing it immediately, but it appears he left... No ETA on getting this fixed. Siebrand 10:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Bot flag on Thai Wikipedia

Hello Siebrand! My name is Harley Hartwell, an autoconfirmed (Not ADMIN) from Thai Wikipedia. I've seen an admin note on Commons Delinker's talk page on Thai Wikipedia. The administrator there would like you to request a bot flag here since your bot are making lots of edits that flood the recent changes there. If you don't request the bot flag and the bot is still running with many edits for multiple times, the admin there might block the bot due to the bot's edit flooded the recent changes list. Thank you for your understanding and I hope that bot will be granted bot status on Thai Wikipedia soon. --Harley Hartwell (talk) 15:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to assign the bot bit, or block the bot. CD is a service, and communities should deal with it as they please. As a policy, CD admins do not request bot bits for CommonsDelinker. Siebrand 10:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Delinker malfunction!

Dear Siebrand, please stop your CommonsDelinker immediately from removing the Italian coat-of-arms images from articles on the German Wikipedia. Most of those arms are uploaded locally to this edition of Wikipedia and your bot removes tons of existing and valid image links from articles and lists and destroys tables. I do NOT have the time to undo every single edit and it will be much easier for us to deal with the few remaining redlinks than to check thousands of edits by your bot. Thanks! --Kazu89 ノート 07:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I soft-blocked your bot for one day. Please leave me a note on my talk page when you've configured the bot not to remove he Italian coat of arms for a while on dewiki. Greetings --Complex (talk) 15:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
CD supports plugins. Sounds to me like you could use something similar to what nl.wp uses, see nl:Gebruiker:CommonsDelinker/DummyReplacements. I've been so bold as to set this up for de.wp, too. You can start using it at de:User:CommonsDelinker/DummyReplacements Siebrand 16:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Just to be complete: the delinks will only be made into replacements if the target delink is inside "gallery" tags. Siebrand 17:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Thx for your help Siebrand. But to be honest, I don't know how to use the DummyReplacements...What do I have to put in there? Categories, Filenames...?--Janurah (talk) 07:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
See SVN source for documentation (lines 13-20). Siebrand 09:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thx a lot. Another question: is there any possibility to tell CommonsDelinker not to handle files in a certain category for some time? Otherwise we would have to revert all the actions as soon as we have uploaded the images. Greetings --Janurah (talk) 10:11, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Not possible. Only way is to have a local replacement with the same name within 10 minutes after removal from Commons. Siebrand 22:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
OK,thx anyway :) --Janurah (talk) 22:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Please, save this photo for me!

Hi, SieBot! This photo is in danger being erased. However, I am using this significantly improved version myself. Can you help me saving it? Thank you and best regards, --Manfred Heyde (talk) 19:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Es hat sich aber doch schon erledigt, denn das Original war ein anderes Foto, das ich jetzt aufgewertet habe:
Louise Brooks detail ggbain.32453u.jpg
. Danke,--Manfred Heyde (talk) 06:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

User:SieBot issue

User:SieBot have moved Creator:Andrea di Geminiano Poppi page from one directory to another but at the same time it moved other directory from noinclude tags, see here. You need to make sure that your bot does not accidentally alter which categories have noinclude tags, while editing templates. Greetings --Jarekt (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

SieBot uses pywikipediabot. Sounds like there may be a but in the category move code. Siebrand 00:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

File:ArzachenaLocatie.png

Please, can you re-upload this file? Thank you! --DenghiùComm (talk) 10:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done Siebrand 22:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Using CommonsDelinker to rename files?

Is it possible to use CommonsDelinker to rename files when such a change would be uncontroversial (e.g., to correct spelling errors)? The following two files require renaming to correct an obvious spelling error:

— Cheers, JackLee –talk– 05:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

CD can change links, it cannot re-upload files. Siebrand 21:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, then. Guess I have to download the files and re-upload them with the correct names. Thanks. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 06:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Nikolaus Ludwig (von) Zinzendorf

Hoi Siebrand, ik probeerde net Nikolaus Ludwig Zinzendorf te veranderen in Nikolaus Ludwig von Zinzendorf want dat is immers z'n naam (bij z'n zoon Christian Renatus von Zinzendorf staat het wel goed). Dat mislukte echter omdat er al een redirect van bestaat die ooit eens is aangepast. Als admin hier kun jij dat vast wel voor mij fixen. Alvast bedankt. - Robotje (talk) 06:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done Siebrand 20:26, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Bedankt. Had je trouwens dit al gezien? - Robotje (talk) 05:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker and the flagicon image template

Hello Siebrand,

I've noticed that the CommonsDelinker interacts a little messily with the {{flagicon image}} template on english Wikipedia. The way the bot currently works, it replaces "{{flagicon image|Example_Non-free_Image.png}}" with "{{flagicon image|}}", leaving a big ugly "[[Image:|22x20px|border |]]" on the page where the little flag icon used to be. I was wondering, would it be possible to have the bot put the image File:Flag of None.svg in the template instead of just deleting the old image? It's a dummy icon we use when the flag image we need isn't available.

It would mean a lot less manual clean-up for pages that use the {{flagicon image}} template. Orange Tuesday (talk) 20:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Or you could just add an #if statement to check if {{{1|}}} is set. Multichill (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
On the same topic, it feels like that CommonsDelinker is missing a lot of the replacements. Many of the image replacements are like Foo.svg and don't have either File: or Image: infront of it. Is there a way to fix CommonsDelinker so it could do stuff like this. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 20:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
No. As there is no link table entry for the file, CD never gets to the page, and will never replace. However handy those templates work for humans, they are hell for bots. Siebrand 22:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Change Category-Name

Could you change the Category:Martina Glagow to Category:Martina Beck? She's active since her wedding a youer before under her new name. Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Just tag the old category with {{Move|Martina Beck}} and wait. Multichill (talk) 13:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:08, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Pleiades_large.jpg

I reverted this edit because the File:Pleiades large.jpg is still visible on Commons. What happened? --Flyax (talk) 10:14, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

It was reuploaded, so the removal was correct. The reupload will probably be deleted again. Siebrand 23:34, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker and template

Hi, is it normal that the bot removes references to deleted images when they're parameters of a template? A bit risky, no? --Eusebius (talk) 13:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Only if those templates do not take into account that one or more of their parameters can be empty. If the page reference is there in the local image page, and the page text contains the image name, it will be removed. Siebrand 15:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The template is fine (because I didn't design it myself...), but for some templates, the readers of the templates expect a reference to a file, a red link making more sense than nothing at all. Anyway, pointless remark I guess, it's just that the temporary removal of a promoted VI happened to cause issues in several other pages of the project. --Eusebius (talk) 15:46, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

SieBot dead?

Looks like SieBot is dead? Wknight94 talk 16:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

All pywikipedia bots appear to have died after the last software update. Siebrand 18:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I appear to have forgotten to configure SieBot to use the API. It's using API now. Siebrand 18:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there a delay? {{move cat}} are still stagnant. Thanks. Wknight94 talk 18:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Bot hasn't changed, but worked after a restart just now. Guess that a very recent MediaWiki update made it work again. Siebrand 21:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Fantastic, thanks! Wknight94 talk 21:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, it still had one problem. It wouldn't do:
Rename Category:Iglesias de El Bierzo as Category:Churches in El Bierzo.
until I deleted the target category. Wknight94 talk 21:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Pont d'Iéna

Hoi Siebrand, ik zag dat je bot Category:Pont d'Iéna naar Category:Pont d'Iéna (Paris) verplaatst heeft. Zo op het eerste gezicht vind ik dat een minder fijne wijziging (een korte zoektocht leverde geen aanwijzigingen voor andere bruggen met dezelfde naam op), maar jij hebt de wijziging vast niet voorgesteld. Zou je me kunnen vertellen waar ik in vergelijkbare gevallen zou kunnen uitzoeken wie je bot de opdracht heeft gegeven en met welke motivering? Erik Warmelink (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Geschiedenis van User:CommonsDelinker/commands, meestal net voor de wijziging. Siebrand 19:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


CommonsDelinker screwed up

Hi, please take a look at http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sternenmeer&action=history , http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sternenmeer&action=history and http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benutzer:Sternenmeer&action=history. In all three instances your Bot unlinked/removed an image that when I checked it was perfectly fine and NOT deleted at all.

Maybe it was first deleted, and then this deletion was some time later reverted. In thise case, your bot should reflect this as well and UNDO its Delinking, because otherwise it just causes unnecessary extra work for people, like it did here, instead of relieving us of stupid repetitive tasks, as it set out to do.

‒ Sincerely Sternenmeer (talk) 11:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC).


CommonsDelinker (replace mode) seems down

http://stable.toolserver.org/delinker/index.php?replacer=1 doesn't show any replacements beyond September 20. Deletions seem ok ( http://stable.toolserver.org/delinker/index.php ). -- User:Docu at 13:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Is up and running again. Siebrand 00:33, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

A file to be dispersed

I notice that this file File:Giraffa cabarceno.JPG is used only on the italian wikipedia, can this be used on others? --RayquazaDialgaWeird2210 (talk) 01:50, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Siebrand 00:33, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

User:CommonsDelinker

Hello Siebrand! Could you please tell your bot that it should hold off from meta pages such as i. e. de:Wikipedia:Urheberrechtsfragen/Archiv/2005/04? It´s a bit counterproductive when you can´t trace back about which image the discussion was held... Chaddy (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Best add a {{nobots}} there... Siebrand 10:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, that´s a possibility. But it´s a bit intricate to add this template on so many (only two examples) pages... Chaddy (talk) 15:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Siebrand! Me again about the same problem. This is still very nerving. Couldn´t you tell the bot not to remove images in the project room? Chaddy (talk) 12:46, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Siebrand 18:43, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Why not? And how to solve the problem in de-WP (I don´t know if other projects have the same problem)? Adding {{nobots}} to all relating pages is a bit laborious... Chaddy (talk) 18:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
If pages must stay unchanged, you can also protect them. Otherwise the occasional revert shouldn't be too much trouble. Siebrand 06:55, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

why ?

User:SieBot "Moving from Hình truyền lên bởi thành viên Lưu Ly to An Dinh Residence (following category redirect)" [16] ???????????? Lưu Ly (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Because at this time the category Category:Hình truyền lên bởi thành viên Lưu Ly was a category redirect to Category:An Dinh Residence. I dont know if this is correct or not.
If they are the same the correct name is the english one, the category system is english. Also with your later edits you again orphaned the category. A category must be categorized into other categories, just like Category:An Dinh Residence which is a subcategory of Category:Buildings in Huế and Category:Nguyen Dynasty. See COM:CAT. --Martin H. (talk) 13:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Now I see: "Hình truyền lên bởi thành viên Lưu Ly" is your user category. --Martin H. (talk) 14:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I did hidden Category:Hình truyền lên bởi thành viên Lưu Ly, please redirect Category:An Dinh Residence to Category:Hình truyền lên bởi thành viên Lưu Ly by to fin is wrong. Thank. Lưu Ly (talk) 11:36, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Again: all categories must be in a category and category names are to be in English. --Foroa (talk) 11:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Please see Category:User . Thank. Lưu Ly (talk) 11:49, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

There you can read that all categories need to be in English, but galleries can be in a different language. We're talking about a category here. Multichill (talk) 09:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI

Please see User talk:Wknight94#File replacement. -- User:Docu at 23:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Image extraction

Hi, I noted you worked on the "extract" image tag. At the Category:Images for extraction, there is no Talk and there is generally no "project" or similar link from related pages I checked.

Is there something like an "image improvement and extraction" Project or workgroup?

We are pondering at COM:TOL whether add about 3 times as many extraction requests as there are already pending. Also there is the idea to introduce a number of additions or replacements to the category system. People who utilize the "Images for extraction" cat would probably be interested to join in. 04:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

{{Move cat}} additional parameter

Hi. Would you be ok to modify the bot moving categories so that it accepts an additional parameter in the move cat template, telling him to add a {{cat redirect}} template on the former category page? I don't ask it to be the default behaviour, since we haven't been able so far to converge on a consensus about what to do, but at least the option of using it could limit the number of empty category deletion without any mention of the target cat. Thanks in advance! --Eusebius (talk) 06:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I patched category.py to do this. If this is what you use, I can post it here. -- User:Docu at 15:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Again, I think that this redirect insert can be the default behaviour if the source category does exist. Even when deleting the source category afterwards, it will generate the right edit summary. In the rare cases that the source category needs to be conserved, an undo will be very quick. --Foroa (talk) 16:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, this conversation has been archived before it was over. --Eusebius (talk) 09:36, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Again, request still active. --Eusebius (talk) 05:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion for SieBot

Hello, your bot is doing very good work, but I would like to make a suggestion (though I don't know if that's technically possible at all). The CommonsDelinker always uses a different summary when it replaces an image with another, likeiwse: "Replacing Foo.jpg with Bar.jpg, as ordered by Some admin: Exact duplicate". However, when SieBot moves a cat, it only says: "Robot: Moving category Foo to Bar". Now, I think it would be great if the bot could say something like: "Moving category Foo to Bar, as ordered by Some admin: Proper capitalization". This way, people could see the reason and the person who made the request. This is easier then to understand and to complain if necessary. It's almost impossible to find the one who made the request in the awfully long history of User:CommonsDelinker/commands. Would something like this be possible? Let me know. Thank you. --The Evil IP address (talk) 10:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

CD and SieBot are two different bots. If you can write this feature in python for me, please let me know and I can provide you the script sources, and I will test and run it with the change. Siebrand 14:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


removing autocategorization from creator pages

Hi, I would like to ask your opinion about using CommonsDelinker to help me tackle the removal of autocategorization from images using old-style creator pages. In the old days it was recommended that creator pages contain category with the name of the creator. That way all the images using creator pages were automacically categorized into those categories. This causes a problem that such images are very hard to place into more logical subcategories like "Photographs by ...". See more here. I am slowly tacking creator pages with large number of images and use my bot user:JarektBot to reorganize such categories by adding appropriate categories to all the images and removing autocategorization from the creator page. I was thinking abut using CommonsDelinker to fix couple thousands of rarely used creator pages. For example creator:Fidelis Schabet autocategorizes into Category:Fidelis Schabet. To fix that I would like to make sure that each image in that category has line "[[Category:Fidelis Schabet]]" in it. I think "Rename Category:Fidelis Schabet as Category:Fidelis Schabet" would work better than "<fixed text><cat>Fidelis Schabet</cat><text>Category:Fidelis Schabet</text></fixed text>" to achieve that. I would like to run a small test on a small category, and if it works than I would like to pass commands for fixing few thousands categories. --Jarekt (talk) 21:09, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I would advise you to approach Multichil. I trust him to be able to change my bot code, and aside from running my bots, I have very little time to contribute to Commons at the moment... Siebrand 07:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thanks --Jarekt (talk) 12:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC) 
replace.py -lang:commons -family:commons -regex -dotall "^(.*)$" "\1\n[[Category:Fidelis Schabet]]" -cat:"Fidelis Schabet" -excepttext:"[cC]ategory:Fidelis Schabet"
should do the trick. Multichill (talk) 16:53, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
OK, just create the list somewhere. I'll see what I can do. Siebrand 23:33, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Verwijderen systeemteksen

Dag Siebrand, bedankt voor het verwijderen van de systeemteksten. Het is grotendeels wel goed gegaan maar er zijn heel wat dingen tussendoor geglipt, maar dat maakt niet uit op die manier kan ik gelijk alle wat oudere systeemberichten verbeteren. 92.254.96.174 23:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker

Hello Siebrand, it is requested to change a protected configuration page of the CommonsDelinker. Can you please review? Thank you, --Dferg (talk) 11:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Multichill already agreed. But as I'm not meta admin, I cannot change the main page... Siebrand 15:56, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Since both of you agree, I'll change the summary as Multichill suggested. Thanks! --Dferg (talk) 16:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:UserMessages.js

Hi, could you do this if possible? Thanks, –Juliancolton | Talk 19:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Please find anyone working on JavaScript. I'm just too much out of it at the moment, and too occupied with other things. Sounds like a nice to have addition. Siebrand 23:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Bot error

Your bot is busily moving every entry in Category:Haringey to Category:Hanringey, borough of London - can you either undo this, or change everything it's done so far to Category:Haringey, borough of London - while "Haringey" is the borough, and "Harringay" the town from which it takes its name, there is no such place as "Hanringey". Thanks! — iridescent 17:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

This was triggered by Deadstar with this edit. Best to let him/her know instead. Wknight94 talk 19:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Borough of London spelling

"Hanringey, borough of London" should be spelt "Haringey, borough of London". - the bot made a typo. Snowmanradio (talk) 20:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

See section immediately above. The bot was just following orders. Wknight94 talk 20:05, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Template breaking

This edit left "{{duplicate|}}". Could this be fixed? Thanks, Paradoctor (talk) 09:55, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

The bot cannot deal with incorrect tagging. That shouldn't have been there anymore :) Siebrand 14:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Sure, and I removed it myself. That's not my point, though. The bot edits templates without knowing about the side effects. I'm aware that semantics is difficult. I'm merely asking that the bot leaves a notification on the talk page whenever a match occurs inside a template, rather than changing it without knowing about the side effects. The work required stays the same, but the solution is cleaner, not leaving broken templates hanging for possibly long time spans. Regards, Paradoctor (talk) 15:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Mt. Pisgah State Park

Just wanted to let you know that the move of Category:Mt. Pisgah State Park to "Category:Mount Pisgah State Park" ignored the official name used by the en:Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR), which is Mt. Pisgah State Park. Please see the official DCNR Mt. Pisgah State Park website and here is the picture of the park entrance sign. The official Penn DOT map also refers to it as "Mt. Pisgah" - see here. The article is back at "Category:Mt. Pisgah State Park". Thanks, Ruhrfisch (talk) 02:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Another user gave the command to rename. Please talk to that user. Thanks. Siebrand 07:09, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Wonderful!

Hi Siebrand! I just saw the Commons Delinker working; great Bot! Thanks for creating this software! Greetings from Bonn, germany --Sir James (talk) 20:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliments. They are also extended to Bryan and Multichill. Siebrand 00:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Moving category

This and this moves are against rules, there was no clear consensus! Please move it back. Thank you. --Ragimiri (talk) 01:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Please talk to User:Foroa, as the edits were made by a bot based on this edit. Siebrand 11:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker suggestion

Hi Siebrand; If one is not alert when moving files, it is possible to overlook the need to edit the new filename into the line to be pasted into User:CommonsDelinker/commands.[17] The result is that CommonsDelinker replaces instances of the old file name with "File:New image.ext". The instructions could be improved, but I wonder if CommonsDelinker might ignore and flag commands to replace filenames with "File:New image.ext". [18] [19] Thank you, Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:38, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I concur; this would help avoid idiot noob sysop mistakes (: Stifle (talk) 09:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Major mistake

Hi, I think that [20] is a major mistake, probably made worse by the fact that SieBot don't use a cooldown period anymore on category redirects since a couple of weeks. --Foroa (talk) 18:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

It seems to wait sometimes, but not always. It's rare that it's a problem though. -- User:Docu at 18:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
It is not a real problem when unknown; once it is known, with a couple of well chosen redirects, massive merges/uncategorisations can be done into one single category. I did not manage to find the delay logic, but as it is standing now, anyone can merge/move categories in a couple of minutes/hours without any sort of control. So, it certainly needs some cooldown period unless we have a bot that can easily undo such moves. I think that we need a central category move logging. As it is working now, too many bots are moving categories without any sort of overall view. --Foroa (talk) 19:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
To avoid any problem, can you block Siebot? After all it's Russbot and not Siebot that does the redirects. -- User:Docu at 19:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: I blocked the bot to prevent more such mistakes. Please unblock it when it's fixed. --The Evil IP address (talk) 19:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm working on cleaning it up. -- User:Docu at 19:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: Of course, this is only my opnion, but I consider it very dangerous that the bot automatically moves category redirects. If some vandal would decide to replace Category:Commons-en with a {{category redirect}}, then the bot would log in as "Siebrand" and "move" the Main Page to the "correct" category. --The Evil IP address (talk) 20:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Foroa asked be to comment here. To fix or at least contain this problem:
  1. Slap around and revert the user who destroyed Category:Subnational entities and Category:Maps by country subdivision (and maybe more categories)
  2. Restore cooldown period, why was it ever removed?!?! Using {{Category redirect}} for moves is Bad
Multichill (talk) 20:47, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
The cooldown period works with RussBot. Not sure why SieBot attempts to do these moves too. -- User:Docu at 21:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
There are several bots doing those moves. I fail to see why {{Category redirect}} is bad (apart from loosing a little bit of history information). It is suggested in the category rename guide and is by far the procedure that needs the least work (for non-disputable moves). --Foroa (talk) 17:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Siebrand disabled the category redirect for now so I unblocked the bot. I looked into the code and i'm afraid someone broke the code the get the last edit. This will also break the cooldown code. Multichill (talk) 14:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. The version russbot is using seems to work (User:RussBot/category redirect log). -- User:Docu at 15:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
To fix the rare problem Foroa mentions, "imagemap" needs to be defined in the "exceptionRegexes" (around line 4103 in wikipedia.py) and then added where "def removeCategoryLinks", "def replaceCategoryInPlace" (and possibly some others) call replaceExcept. -- User:Docu at 15:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Tropenmuseum categorization

Hi, would you read User_talk:CommonsDelinker/commands#Request_contested. Thanks. Bennylin (talk) 09:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I think they belong there, so I agree with User:Multichill. However, as he made the edit that put the bot to work, you'd best take it up with him. Siebrand 11:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

wrong spelling of category name

Hello,
your bot added a category named Vehhicles of the United States Navy. I suggest you should fix the name of this category.--Zaccarias (talk) 21:57, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

It's done. Siebot moves categories based on COM:CDC and you can make suggestions at COM:DL too. Wknight94 talk 01:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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