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Your opinion please...[edit]

A small Ro-Ro ferry serves residents of Ward's Island, year-round, even when the harbour is covered in ice, 2014 01 01 -a.jpg

I recently uploaded an image of a small roll-on roll-off ferry. I am sure I have placed earlier images of ro-ro vessels into a category specifically for ro-ro vessels. But darned if I can find it now.

I suspect that someone emptied the category, instead of nominating it for discussion -- thinking it was a childish and unrecognized neologism.

Would you concur it is a term used by experts, and a meaningful term to use in a category name?

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:22, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with your categorising, just another way of writing. You'll find the ships in Category:RoRo ferries. I already recategorised the image. --Stunteltje (talk) 06:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Ships built by Schiffswerft Bolle[edit]

Hoi Stunteltje, please have a look, some more ships built by Bolle. [1] + [2] + [3] + [4] + [5] + [6] + [7] + [8] .-)) bedankt -- Biberbaer (talk) 08:47, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Picture of the Year 2013 R1 Announcement[edit]

Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open![edit]

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Category:Petersinsel (ship, 1971)[edit]

Hallo Stunteltje, ich habe die Category:Petersinsel (ship, 1976) angelegt und anschliessend festgestellt es gibt die Category:Petersinsel (ship, 1971). Meine Frage: Sind dies unterschiedliche Schiffe oder gab es bei der Anlage von Category:Petersinsel (ship, 1971) Unklarheiten über das Baujahr. Der Betreiber gibt das Baujahr mit 1976 an [9]- und auch andere Quellen. Einen Hinweis auf ein Schiff gleichen Namens und gleicher Bauwerft mit Baujahr 1971 konne ich bisher nicht finden.
Viele Grüße! Gomera-b (talk) 11:59, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Ich denke dass est ein Fehler war. Sehe auch [10] Ich korrigierte. --Stunteltje (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Ich wollte nicht oberlehrerhaft sein. Hoffe Du hast das nicht so verstanden. VG Gomera-b (talk) 20:39, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Gar nicht overlehrerhaft, ich bin immer froh mit korrektionen. Vielen Dank dafur. --Stunteltje (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Veel te leren[edit]

Dank voor deze informatie, Stunteltje. Ik heb nog veel te leren; Wikipedia was tot voor kort alleen een bron van informatie voor mij, nu heb ik me begeven in een wereld met regels en gewoonten die voor mij nieuw zijn. Het zal wel wennen. Ik heb inmiddels aan zes stukjes meegeschreven en al doende leert men.

Bij het lemma Spaarsluis wilde ik mooie plaatjes van de nieuwe sluizen van het Panamakanaal plaatsen. Via en heleboel omwegen kreeg ik uiteindelijk van de Panama Canal Authority twee mooie plaatjes, met toestemming om ze te gebruiken. Toen ik de plaatjes probeerde te uploaden lukte dat met de eerste meteen, maar bij de tweede stopte het proces. Ik heb het verschillende keren geprobeerd, maar het lukte niet. Toen heb ik maar twee schermknippen gebruikt, al zal de resolutie niet zo goed zijn. Het ziet er in het lemma wel goed uit. Heb je tips om dit beter te doen? In hetzelfde lemma staat een plaatje van sluis Sulfeld, dat al in de Duitstalige Wikipedia stond. Ik heb uit het Duitse lemma de bestandstekst [[Datei:..... overgenomen in mijn stukje, maar dat werkte niet. Ook niet als ik van Datei iets anders maakte, Bestand of File. Wat deed ik verkeerd? Ook daar heb ik tenslotte maar een knip gebruikt en aangegeven als "eigen werk" maar dat is natuurlijk niet zo.--Janhuisman42 (talk) 10:07, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Net wat je zegt, ik heb ook heel wat afgetobt voor ik er wat handigheid in kreeg. Maar ik ben heel blij met een extra gebruiker die iets van schepen en scheepvaart afweet, dus ik zal proberen je zo snel mogelijk in te werken. Haal je foto's zoveel mogelijk van Commons. Gewoon in de Nederlandse Wikipedia op een plaatje klikken, in de Engelse moet je 2x klikken, er staat een vakje in hun eigen database waarin naar Commons wordt verwezen. Bij het toevoegen gebruik je dan "Bestand:..........", omdat er weer zeikers zijn die "File" niet mooi vinden, al werkt dat ook prima. "Datei" doen alleen de Duitsers. Het uploaden van grote bestanden mag geen probleem zijn, mits Wikimedia de extensie herkent. Lees de toelichting een keer door, dan zie je dat niet alles kan. Ik heb ook af en toe een filmpje geupload File:Zelflossen_van_de_DOOR_GUNST_VERKREGEN_in_Groningen_bij_de_reunie_2005_van_de_LVBHB.webm en die werkte ook. Veel groter dan een foto. Ik kijk wel even naar je stukje. --Stunteltje (talk) 10:19, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Ik heb onder je File:Gever roerstandaanwijzer.JPG nu twee categories aangemaakt, waarvan er zeker één weg kan, handiger: via een redirect. In de category die je wilt gebruiken zet je dan Huisman, J. of Huisman, Jan of een tekst al naar verkiezing. (Even op "Bewerken" klikken en haal dan eerst de dubbele punt weg, die zorgt er voor dat dit overleg niet als zodanig als category wordt gezien.) In de andere zet je dan #RedirectCategory:hier de blijvende en laat de zaak verder leeg. Overigens: In je browser kan je in een extra tabblad zoeken naar de juiste category voor je foto's. Zelf een nieuwe aanmaken kan ook, maar dan wel in het Engels en goed in de boom inpassen. Lastig, maar het went wel en anders is er altijd wel weer iemand die het verbetert. Er gaat iets mis bij File:Maquette Spaarsluis Sulfeld.JPG. Die foto is van een andere gebruiker en dat heb ik aangepast. Ik ben zelf niet los op het overzetten naar Commons vanuit anderstalige Wikipedia's. Maar dat is in zo'n geval wel de bedoeling. --Stunteltje (talk) 10:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Remorqueur / Tugboat "Berkel"[edit]

Bonjour / Good afternoon

C'est pour garder le type de classification: nom du bateau (navire, année) This is to keep the classification type: name of vessel (ship, year)

Cordialement / sincerely

Jpbazard

  • Normally correct, but there are a few exceptions: tugboats and submarines. --Stunteltje (talk) 15:57, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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2012 Picture of the Year: A pair of European Bee-eaters in Ariège, France.

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Persooon op foto onherkenbaar maken?[edit]

Dag Stunteltje,

Tijdens de Wikimedia nieuwjaarsborrel van jl. januari heb je in de KB deze foto gemaakt. Een KB-collega van mij heeft er moeite mee dat de man achter de PC herkenbaar op de foto staat. Als de KB zelf foto's van mensen in de leeszalen online zet, proberen we altijd de mensen onherkenbaar in beeld te brengen, dit i.v.m. hun privacy. Mijn vraag is dus nu of je er bezwaar tegen zou hebben om de man op de foto onherkenbaar te maken, of als ik dit zou doen. Er blijft dan natuurlijk wel een versie van de foto beschikbaar waar de man alsnog herkenbaar op staat, dat is niet te voorkomen (of kun je die verwijderen?)... Met hartelijke groeten --OlafJanssen (talk) 11:15, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Doe ermee wat je goeddunkt. Ik kan dat niet, te weinig bevoegdheid voor ;=)) En als de foto helemaal verdwijnt mag dat ook. Mij ging het om wat sfeerplaatjes en zelf let ik er meestal wel op dat ik geen mensen te pontificaal neerzet. Maar deze kon dacht ik wel. --Stunteltje (talk) 12:02, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Picture of the Year 2013 Results Announcement[edit]

Picture of the Year 2013 Results[edit]

The 2013 Picture of the Year. View all results »

Dear Stunteltje,

The 2013 Picture of the Year competition has ended and we are pleased to announce the results: We shattered participation records this year — more people voted in Picture of the Year 2013 than ever before. In both rounds, 4070 different people voted for their favorite images. Additionally, there were more image candidates (featured pictures) in the contest than ever before (962 images total).

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Ship categories[edit]

Hi Stunteltje, afaik we use "Ships built at ..." categories and similar ones with the general IMO category once the ship has been renamed. E.g. see Category:IMO 5172597. De728631 (talk) 19:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

I was already working on an answer on your talk page. --Stunteltje (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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Bruggen in Den Haag[edit]

Beste Stunteltje,

Bedankt voor je berichtje en vooral de prettige toonzetting waarin je het schreef. Inderdaad, ik had Category:Bridges in The Hague over het hoofd gezien. De naam van de brug was eeuwenlang 'Noord Valbrug' (de formele, geografisch bepaalde naam) én Scheveningse Brug (in de volksmond en literatuur). In de negentiende eeuw werd de ophaalbrug vervangen door een vaste brug, waarna 'Scheveningsebrug' (aan elkaar vast geschreven) exclusief wordt toegepast. De reden dat de naam een beetje in de vergetelheid is geraakt ligt in het feit dat de woningen die rond de brug stonden (bijna) allemaal zijn afgebroken en er dus ook geen sprake meer is van een 'volksmond' die een naam actief levend houdt. Op dit moment ben ik bezig een artikel te schrijven over deze brug in Wikipedia, en zal nog meer beeldmateriaal toevoegen op Wikimedia. Bedankt voor je correctie v.w.b. de categorie ! Ik moet nog beter begrijpen of alle terminologie in het Engels moet zijn (op Commons Wikimedia) zodat mijn bijdrage geen extra werk gaat opleveren voor meer ervaren bijdragers. Ik tref namelijk veel Engels en Nederlands naast elkaar aan. M. vr. groet, --OSeveno (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


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"Category:Ships of Catalonia" is a subcategory of "Category:Ships of Spain". The more precise, the better. Thanks! --Jordiferrer (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Category:Ships of Catalonia[edit]

"Category:Ships of Catalonia" is a subcategory of "Category:Ships of Spain". The more precise, the better. Thanks! --Jordiferrer (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately Catalonia isn't a country, but a part of Spain. We in the Netherlands know the problem, we have Friesland, even with an own language. But ships are OF an official country, may be IN a part of the country. So no problem at all with Category:Ships in Catalonia, but there are no Ships of Catalonia by registration. They are Spanish. Sorry. --Stunteltje (talk) 15:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Category:Ships in Heligoland[edit]

Hello, i created this category today. You seem to be the "ship expert" here. Maybe you can have a look if everything is correct? I was for axample unsure about some images if they show boats or ships. Holger1959 (talk) 16:33, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

There will always be a discussion for boat or ship. Remember: a ship can carry a boat, a boat never a ship. Fishing ships have an hold and fishing vessels under 10 metres overall length, according the British Marine Management Organisation Statistics and Analysis Team => Fishing boats. For the rest: you made the correct decisions. I myself don't categorise ships by name in "Ships in" categories. First: ships can be in much waters. Unless it is a ferry or tour boat, that is always in the same location. Second: the problem is the categorising system. I prefer the category by shipname for an image. Categorising an image by location and the ship by shipname in the same location is not in line with the categorisation policy here. So I normally don't categorise ships by shipname in a "Ships in" category.
I think the community here can have a problem with Category:Börteboote on Heligoland, as this is a German category-name. What do you think of Category:Tenders in Heligoland as sub-category of Category:Tenders?
By the way: I own a barge, so I am not a real expert for all kinds of ships. I only had an education at a technical school for shipbuilding. --Stunteltje (talk) 20:00, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I came to these Helgoland categories today from some nature photos we got for Wiki Loves Earth 2014 in Germany. Now I only try to sort out a bit of the chaos there. I don't know much about ships, so I am glad you help. Because there are many ship photos also showing the islands (Helgoland or Düne) or parts of them, some general Heligoland location category makes sense i think. Like it was before, having all the ship photos in the main Heligoland category, seems not so good. And we can also not put the photos in the harbour category because most ships don't really go to the harbour there (it is called Reede in german, I guess you know better how this is managed). So I think additional "Category:Ships in Heligoland" or "Boats in Heligoland" for the photos is ok. For categories about special ships ("by name") you are probably right. Maybe we should remove the location category from the ship category, and only put the relevant photos into additional "Ships in Heligoland"?
For the "Börteboote" i don't have a preference, i only noticed the unusual "on" in the category name. The article Börteboot suggests it's a special type of boats, don't know if there's an english name. Holger1959 (talk) 20:31, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Category:Ms Regen (ship, 1999)[edit]

Hej Stunteltje, thanks for the new category. The ships name is Regen and the MS is only the prefix for Motorschiff. Greetings -- Ein Dahmer (talk) 09:00, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Have a look at the image File:Strompolizei auf donau.JPG. I used the name that is painted on the ship and that is MS REGEN. Only a few ships have it painted that way and in most other cases you are definately right. --Stunteltje (talk) 13:15, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Please look here [11] -- Ein Dahmer (talk) 07:31, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Regen is the sistership of Laber. Both survey ships are operated by the WSA Regensburg and named after tributaries of the Danube. -- Ein Dahmer (talk) 07:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
There is no misunderstanding, the only thing is that I used as category-name the name that is actually painted on the vessel. Funny that in former days the name had been used without "MS". As soon as we have images of the ship with the name REGEN only, also the category-name has to be changed. The German Wikipedia uses the name "REGEN", so nothing goes wrong, in my opinion. Commons is sometimes different from local Wikipedia's, as as I found out that e.g. in many cases the English Wikipedia uses the year of launching, where the Dutch, German and French Wikipedi's use the year of completion for Wiki's about the same ship. --Stunteltje (talk) 08:12, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Good to know, that prefixes are now part of ship names and that users and administrators from neighbour countries have better knowledge than the local people. What was wrong with the default? -- Ein Dahmer (talk) 03:25, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Prefixes are not part of the shipname. Exept for naval vessels under command of an officer of the particular navy. If a naval ship is under command (after commissioning), the prefix is officially used in the name of naval vessels until decommissioning in a number of countries. Netherlands, British, Canadian, Australian and so on. It is not practical to make two categories in Commons for a ship with and without the prefix. Without for the short periods of launching until commisioning and decommissioning until scrapping. For the rest: in Commons we use the name as painted on the ship, regardless the use of the (even correct) name in the local Wikipedia. Images in Commons are intended to be found as easy as possible, even by not-expert users. The knowledge that an image of a ship can be found by the name on the ship makes them easy to find. Commons is for service, not an absolute database. By the way, the solution not to categorise a single image by shipname as for the MS REGEN is perfect for me. Better no category (for a single file) than a category that does not reflect the name painted on the ship. --Stunteltje (talk) 06:47, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Category:BP 24 Bad Bramstedt (ship, 2002)[edit]

My understanding is that ship name prefixes are not used for sorting ship categories. The size of the lettering doesn't affect this. The issue is whether "BP 24" is a prefix or part of the name. Other ship categories that start with "BP" followed by a number do not sort by the "BP nn" part. Is this one different for some reason? --Auntof6 (talk) 20:26, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Principally you are correct in the category name. The only thing is that I always try to make it as easy as possible for not specialist users to find images. Users who see the image of a ship in most cases recognise the vessel by what is painted on the ship. Not by the small, hardly to read nameplate. That's all, that is why I prefer the BP 24. There is no special other reason. --Stunteltje (talk) 22:01, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Ter Apelkanaal[edit]

On this map, the blue line is the canal and the green area is the settlement (cf. this map), so my categorization was right. – Editør (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

You are right. Didn't see the reference map. --Stunteltje (talk) 13:01, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


#muhboot[edit]

Hi Stunteltje, I've got more images of this #muhboot (see http://www.trau-dich-zart-zu-sein.com/at/milka/muhboot) but am rather uncertain how to categorize this boat. Could you please help? Greetings, -- Ies (talk) 15:47, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Categorised her as Category:Muhboot (ship, 1930) as unfortunately [[:Category:#Muhboot (ship, 1930)]] did not work. Found her history, see Category:ENI 03030929. --Stunteltje (talk) 20:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! -- Ies (talk) 06:13, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

shipping index[edit]

Hoi. Leuk idee in de Kroeg. Kijk eens op https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Financi%C3%ABle_Ondersteuning_Kleine_Activiteiten - je idee komt vast in aanmerking voor een microgrant. Dedalus (talk) 19:32, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Category:Robin Locker (ship)[edit]

I just created this category for a Met Police ship, but I was unable to find the year or other useful info. Perhaps you'll have better luck. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:59, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

By the way, is there a template I can use to create ship categories? -mattbuck (Talk) 10:07, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Found some information here. Assume year of built 2012.
There is a template Ship, most used at the IMO category. Have a look at Category:Ships below the first lists. Have used it incidently, but I think it doesn't work for categories. On top of the mentioned category there are suggestions for category-names. --Stunteltje (talk) 18:52, 3 September 2014 (UTC)