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I have over 11,000 edits on the Commons according to the "my preferences" page. See also this counter with a slightly different number.

Wikipedia and the Commons need more charts and graphs. See:

• Commons:Chart and graph resources

My wikipedia talk page is at en:User talk:Timeshifter

Please note: Here follows an introduction similar to the one that I use on my wikipedia user talk page: To keep the discussion in one thread some comments added here are moved to the user talk page of the author. I reply there. I also watchlist that talk page for awhile in order to note when the user there replies. Harassing comments are also sometimes moved off this talk page. As are inappropriately-applied warning templates, etc.. Sometimes the original author is offended by their own harassing comments, and my reply, on their user talk page. They then remove both from their talk page. I guess the light from their own verbal reflection offends them. One can find removed comments by using the history link on a talk page. Users are allowed to remove anything from their talk pages. See en:WP:TALK and other wikipedia and wikimedia guidelines/policies. Sometimes I remove stuff from my talk page for no particular reason, or for many varied reasons. Removal of comments from my talk page implies nothing. Don't take it personally. Unless I have requested otherwise feel free to leave new messages on my talk page. --Timeshifter

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Device to Root Out Evil (1997) sculpture by Dennis Oppenheim at its former location in Vancouver, Canada.

A statue, Monument to the Escape, by Dennis Oppenheim in Memory Park in Buenos Aires, Argentina. It was dedicated in October 2006. It is a memorial to the victims of the military regime during the Argentine Dirty War, a period of Argentinian state-sponsored violence, disappearances, murder, and torture from 1976 to 1983.

[edit] Flickr images

Hi, the correct tag are {{GFDL-user-en|Ishihara}} and {{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}. I am quite confused by the author. At wikipedia the author calls himself Gisela Ishihara and on Flickr erasmo perez. This might be a copyright violation by the flickruploader. I am not sure what to do, I think I am going to put this on VP. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I am confused also. The Flickr photos were uploaded there by erasmo perez around 12 hours after they were shot on July 30, 2006. But he has written there that Gisela Ishihara is the author of the photos.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/albatros/sets/72157594220106912/

erasmo perez also has an August 1, 2006 blog page with some of the photos, and he says there also that Gisela Ishihara is the author of the photos:

http://erasmoperez.blogspot.com/2006/08/544-fotos-por-la-democracia-tercera.html

I emailed erasmo perez, and gave him the link to this talk page. The 12 images are in the gallery images section on this page: Mexican general election 2006 controversies - I copied the 12 gallery images on that page from wikipedia to the commons.

Gisela Ishihara uploaded the 12 images to wikipedia on August 10-12, 2006. See her user contributions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ishihara

Maybe she gave permission to erasmo perez to upload the images to Flickr earlier with a non-commercial CC distribution license. Then she uploaded a few of the photos herself to wikipedia with the GFDL and Cc-by-sa-2.5 licenses so that we could use them. According to her user contributions she put the images on the wikipedia page too.

Here is a link to one of the images at wikipedia and wikimedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Img_1907.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Mexico_City_rally_7-30-06_3.jpg

I found erasmo perez with a Google search. His blog with his email address is here:

http://www2.blogger.com/profile/14722334928557346505

He lives in Mexico City where the rally photos were taken.

He talks about Flickr photosets on his blog pages.

Erasmo perez also uploaded other photosets marked as being shot by Gisela Ishihara. All were uploaded on different days in July 2006 soon after the photos were taken. So I assume erasmo perez has permission from Gisela Ishihara to upload the photos to Flickr. See:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/albatros/sets/72157594220106912

http://www.flickr.com/photos/albatros/sets/72157594193780008

http://www.flickr.com/photos/albatros/sets/72157594201839469 --Timeshifter 16:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your research. I think the best thing to do is remove the flickr links from the image description pages and add an link to this talkpage. -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Done! Thanks again. --Timeshifter 20:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I received an email from erasmo perez confirming the permission given by his wife, Gisela Ishihara, when she uploaded the photos to wikipedia. --Timeshifter 01:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work done :) There should be no problem now anymore. You might want to forward the e-mail to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, so that the e-mail can be archived. -- Bryan (talk to me) 11:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I forwarded it, and I CCed the forwarded email to erasmo perez too, so that he knows the permission was passed on to wikimedia commons. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do. I hope I have the info and links correct on the photos. --Timeshifter 13:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

We've received the email at permissions-commons, have the images already tagged with a specific license? If so, please tag them with {{PermissionOTRS|ticket=https://secure.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=619933}} mentioning that I confirmed that the email was received. -- Drini 23:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the images have been tagged with the license tags that Bryan said were correct: {{GFDL-user-en|Ishihara}} and {{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}. I also added the OTRS tag to all the images. Thanks. --Timeshifter 03:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrectly named categories

Hi! Sorry if you were already aware of this, but I wanted to tell you about the {{badname}} template. You can use it to mark incorrectly named categories (and other pages), like this one. That way it will be spotted faster. Just type {{badname|:Category:Correct name}} Best regards, --rimshot^talk 12:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the {{badname}} template. --Timeshifter 17:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem. --rimshot^talk 11:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit warring over Category:Satellite pictures of the Palestinian territories is not a good approach

Please don't edit war with user:Juiced lemon. Even if you're right, just walk away, let it go, let it stay the way he edits it and seek consensus. Reverting back and forth is grounds for a block for both reverters, even if one party is right and the other wrong. So please just surface the issues and gain consensus, don't edit war. Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 19:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

PS: just as a note it's Lar (short for Larry, see my user page here or anywhere) not Lars... no worries, it's not an uncommon mistake. No need to change it but wanted you to know ++Lar: t/c 00:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] EasyTimeline

Hey Timeshifter,

There used to be a really good index thing that showed all EasyTimelines on all Wikimedia projects. I think it was http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TimelinesIndex.htm . I don't know what happened to it, I'm going to see if it's available somewhere else or something because it was really useful. cheers --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it seems like that useful page I remember is dead now. :( Very sad. I posted to wikitech-l but no one has said why it's broken or how it can be fixed. grr.

I don't have any experience creating graphs, sorry. Try asking at the Graphics village pump, or find an impressive looking graph that someone else has created and ask them how they did it. :) cheers --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 12:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tal Afar incident

Hello !

The image can be used as "fair use", since you'd discuss the image itself; however, the image cannot be hosted on Commons, only on Wikipedia en:. Also, the version hosted by Wikipedia should be small enough not to compromise the exploitation of the original image.

I have done a fait amount of writing to people to request release of material under Free licences. This image is very iconic, and is among the most notable by Chris Hondros; hence, from experience, I doubt that Hondros will be willing to release it as Public Domain. If you want to try and contact him, I'd suggest that you request the release of a scaled-down version of the image; stress that releasing a small version will not compromise the exploitation of the original image, and of course that the rights will be entirely preserved on the largest image.

Good luck ! Rama 08:41, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Easy uploading!

Hi there. I saw your comment here about creating forms for upload pages. Contact me! Just follow the link at my userpage. Stephen Ewen 06:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SVG structure

Discussion moved to User talk:Juiced lemon. --Timeshifter 17:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki links

Discussion moved to User talk:Juiced lemon. --Timeshifter 17:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RV at Category:Criminal justice diagrams

You reverted my edit at Category:Criminal justice diagrams, but Category:Criminal justice diagrams are definitely no statistics diagrams they are statistics. Bar charts, Gantt charts, Histograms, Pie charts, Radar charts, Regression analysis plots, Venn diagrams are special statistics diagrams.--Ma-Lik 16:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Upload forms

Could you please make some copies in your userspace (e.g. User:Timeshifter/MediaWiki:Uploadform/ownwork) and fix them up as you see fit, then we can compare more easily? This way you can also tweak it to your heart's content rather than making a separate request for every little change. I think it will be more efficient. cheers, pfctdayelise (说什么?) 08:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Intifada deaths.gif

Why not do the breakdown of males vs. females and Israelis vs. Palestinians? AnonMoos 02:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Golan heights

Commons is not the place for political arguements. In the last 40 years, Gollan Heights are in Israel, there is nothing to argue about it. You can see the categories for Lorraine and Alsece regions which both Germany and France call for ownership about them, but becaue now those regions are in France, they are in the categories of France. Netanel h 10:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The Commons does not take sides. Neither do I. I put the images in the Golan Heights categories. Then I put the Golan Heights categories in both Israel and Syria categories. This way the Commons does not choose one over the other. --Timeshifter 23:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It is much better, but waht about Alsece and Lorraine? Why aren't they under the categories of both France and Germany? Netanel h 17:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Volcanological diagrams

Hi Timeshifter, what about Commons:Categories#Over-categorization? --Jo 00:37, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{Categorise}}

Hi Timeshifter!
Please tell me why did you mix up {{Categorise}} and {{CatDiffuse}}.
Another topic is that you just replaced the languagelinks. Note that the contents of Categorise/lang and CatDiffuse/lang is NOT the same!
hf --D-Kuru 07:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

It took a quite long time to read your answer, because I was occupied with a lot of work for a long time.

With "Note that the contents of Categorise/lang and CatDiffuse/lang is NOT the same!" I wanted to tell you this:

{{CatDiffuse}} (en) -> {{CatDiffuse/de}} ...

{{Categorise}} (en) -> {{Categorise/de}} ...

I changed {{Categorise}} because it was taking up too much space in my opinion.

I made it as big as it was, because people often neglect or just ignore small templates. In Category:Dogs you see what I want to tell you. Experience has shown me that big is better' on Commons if you want to avoid overflown categories. No matter if they got filled up by newbees or people who should know what they do.

I also think it looks better with the light blue background, and the image to the left.

You'r right it looks a bit better now. Even the picture is a bit small to catch someones eye.

Search for more categories here.

I can tell you that every new user will get lost in this jungle of different categories, because they don't know what they should search for. If you know where you can find different ctegories you don't need Category:CommonsRoot, because you know it anyway. The effect of this will be that people upload their media files and a) just put them in the main category, because they don't know what they can/should do b) leave them without any category. And thats not what we want them to.

We maybe should include a new image on the left side which makes it more obvious what we want. The current one doesn't tell the reader very much about what the purpose of this template is. I thought about something like this. I know it's a bit big, but - as I said - I think big ones are better if you want you can try to make it smaller.

Please tell me what you think about my suggestion.

--D-Kuru (talk) 14:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Structure diagrams

And how use native speaker this? In German are "Strukturdiagramme" a part of UML and I think it's a good possibility to subcategorize the diagrams cat (clearness). That's also the reason why I categorize some technical diagrams in Category:Technical diagrams. In my opinion the categories should be a tree and not such flat.--Ma-Lik 13:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Diagrams, drawings, charts, graphs by theme?

You categorized Category:Diagrams, charts, graphs by theme in the cat Drawings. Is the nameing of the cat then right? In my opinion the category should named Category:Diagrams, drawings, charts, graphs by theme.--Ma-Lik 12:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ping

2) Ping2 // FrankB 23:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

re: OK. I will reply in more detail later after I get some rest. One quick thing though. I have never understood the difference between distributional and membership maps of the world. --Timeshifter (talk) 02:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd inferred distributional was 'demographic' termish, and ... memberships were sub-categories of international organizations... to which I just subcategorized it AND membership maps of the world. (I'm back btw, so yer 'OK' is belated. Perhaps I shoulda pinged. Sorry.) // FrankB 02:32, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brilliant thought!

re: this message and Category:World maps by theme... though I'm finding there is haphazard organization structure there already for those belonging to international organizations, which I will opine further, is likely to be the majority. Suspect it returns to a question DK and I kicked around about how many categories is right and proper. From what I've been seeing, many cat to parents or grandparents and don't look for an appropriate maps category at t'all, at all— so to speak.

So my take has been that it is happening because too little is annotated about what goes in a cat, so I digs and make an edit like this... this for what is probably a soon to be discarded organization, or this and this to build the category structure such should have and force into a proper maps cat respectively. The other thing I think important in the parent categories is to pipesort maps into "|Space theme name" pipe sorting — so the Maps category tree "hits people" in the eye.

However, I hadn't thought of it in terms of an overall strategy, but was just handling cases that didn't have proper places. So kudos! Good thought. What if we extend to regional maps by theme? Makes sense in international organizations from what I can see. Roughly (by impression, which is to say a guess) there is a 50:50 split with one potential wrinkle... as illustrated by this diff where I <Brainfart!> initiated left the redlink cat Multiregional international organizations that someone else had tagged several images with. (Obviously I was ambivilant on that one... guess I figured we could consolidate later if it turned out to be a non-productive classification. Does fit within maps of regions by themes and I would advise maps of the world by theme would be a better name than your redlinked "World maps by theme". Gotta run. Taxi Dad time again. // FrankB 22:52, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Location maps (2008 standard)

Sorry 'bout the delay...

re: Category:Location maps (2008 standard) is a newly-created category. Should this be called Category:Locator maps (2008 standard) instead. I haven't categorized much in this area. Locator or Location or both? I am not sure it is a good idea to use both. It seems "locator" is the standard here: Category:Locator maps. See also: Category talk:Location maps (2008 standard) and User:NordNordWest. I think it is a language thing. Maybe we should call the category something like Category:Locator maps (2008 geolocation standard). See w:Geolocation --Timeshifter (talk) 21:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I left a note on the project page on the German wiki about that just now (and ammended that before closing this!). For what it's worth, there is a discussion on that page that links back to a commonsFrench wp page here on standard color schemes for maps, apparently that began on the French wikipedia, then was moved here. here w/o using Meta or Commons international forums. Sigh.

To address your question directly, Locator maps predominates as was put in place by Deusentrieb, David Kernow et. al., and I questioned the originator of "Location maps" about ten days back (User talk:NordNordWest) and didn't get a response. ... he replied on his talk... I've updated my post linked above on that basis... See the template on en.wikipedia...

I was aware of the programable ability on some maps on en.wikipedia, but not being a maps graphics manipulator, hadn't realized the scope of the system being put in place internationally, so to speak. The upshot is that it looks like 'Locator' and 'Location maps' are both needed and that there needs to be a differentiation tagging and link template, more than anything else. It happens the technical difference is (I infer, but could be wrong) rectilinear equality of N-S and E-W axes, which gives an equal area projection—a format invented here in Massachusetts that I happened across a long while back now—in all places, in my kids pediatricians' offices! He's a mapophile. Unlike a Mercator projection, both Lat and Long curve, so it doesn't swell the size of things at higher latitudes (compare the shape of any landmass above 40 degrees north on a world map to a globes tracings). It's technically close in effect to a hemispherical projection from directly overhead, but zoomed in close so like a globe, it shows the true shape of the region on which it is centered. So there is a big technical difference, to which is added apparently that one can display an overlay of a "location dot" by specifying a correct and compatible geo-coordinate.

Other than that, just make sure they are subcategories of locator maps categories, and the hierarchy should shake out fine... discounting the SVG maps ambiguities rampant in the whole schema.

Visiting Category talk:Location maps (2008 standard), you seem to have found the right guy to deal with on this... from what I read on that de.wikipedia page, his English is good and I was going to close this and ask him if he'd help come up with a template. The only concern I have on all this is these projects are acting independent of international discussion forums, and if they are setting up standards, they need to invite more people to the table. // FrankB 20:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Do it... I'm working on the prototype template on the German de page as I write. // FrankB 21:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please update map

Image:USA minimum wage.gif I would if I only knew how to, thx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.82.193.108 (talk • contribs) 05:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:USA minimum wage.gif. Thanks for letting me know that there was a new map. I uploaded the new version. To see the new image you may need to click the shift key while reloading the page with the map. That's how it works for the Firefox browser. I don't remember how it works for purging the image cache for Internet Explorer browser. See: w:Wikipedia:Bypass your cache. --Timeshifter (talk) 12:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] final stroke

Moved discussion to User talk:Ma-Lik. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{categorise}} again

This thread was moved to Template talk:Categorise.

[edit] File:Gaza-Israel_war_casualties.png

I left you a comment about your chart. I have a suggestion about the colors. Nomaed (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] re:File: Zniszczone budynki w Gazie

That File: Zniszczone budynki w Gazie is sreenshot with video Al Jazeera Creative Commons Repository. --Omega933 (talk) 12:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Day 18 of War on Gaza.PNG

Hello,

I moved your request to Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Day_18_of_War_on_Gaza.PNG. Please answer there. Thanks, Yann (talk) 23:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gaza War casualties chart

Timeshifter, there is a new initiative to remove the casualties chart you made some weeks ago, see discussion at Talk:2008–2009_Israel–Gaza_conflict#Casualties_chart. 61.195.39.119 02:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Israeli-Palestinian conflict cartoons

This looks like a good solution to the ongoing disputes about how these images should be categorised. Thank you for putting in the work required to make this work. Please let me know if I can assist in any way. Regards. Adambro (talk) 13:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] From leahtwosaints- questions

Note: Moving replies as they arrive to User talk:Leahtwosaints‎ to consolidate thread.

[edit] Email

Note: Consolidating thread (as comments arrive) at User talk:Mike.lifeguard. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sajed.ir

Hello regarding to your message i assume we can use their image on commons since they are released under GFDL. if you had any more question you can find on my talk page or IRC . Thanks for your attention --Mardetanha ^talk 00:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Translation provided --DoostdarWKP (talk) 03:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

See here. «All subjects under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) are published» --Wayiran (talk) 13:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. There is discussion continuing at

Category talk:Halabja chemical attack#Sajed.ir --Timeshifter (talk) 19:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Your archive

Hey, just thought I'd let you know that your talk archive is currently in the main namespace. The problem is that this page then can be reached via the Randomlink. This should be avoided, since this page isn't supposed to be seen by our visitors, so I'd apreciate if you move the page into your user namespace, be it User:Timeshifter/Archive1 or User talk:Timeshifter/Archive1. Thanks and happy editing. --The Evil IP address (talk) 06:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm intruding here, but I see that you blanked this page. You can click the "move" tab at the top of Archive 1, to move it to your userspace, that'll fix things. Killiondude (talk) 07:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, both of you. It's not my user talk archive. I did not want to move this particular archive because I did not want confusion about redirects. The archive name was incorrectly named, because I forgot the forward slash in front of it. I have now put the talk archive in the correct location. Admins can feel free to delete the blank archive page. On clicking Archive 1 it says it has been deleted 16 July 2009. So the problem has been solved. --Timeshifter (talk) 05:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] COM:L

Moved comment to Commons talk:Licensing to consolidate discussion. --Timeshifter (talk) 14:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Moved another comment there. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

Moved to user's talk page. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting point on the strategy wiki

Wondering if you've seen the Financial sustainability task force--it seems aligned with your thinking! --JohnF (talk) 18:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)