User talk:TwoWings
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File:Affiche Journées Européennes du Patrimoine DDC 2010.jpg[edit]
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Huib talk Abigor @ meta 09:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
File:Amy with dildo.jpg[edit]
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russavia (talk) 23:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
File:Urination in nature.jpg[edit]
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Toilet (talk) 17:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
File:Amy with dildo.jpg[edit]
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Ed. J. 08:17, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
File:Isner-Mahut score card.jpg[edit]
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84.61.149.75 18:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
File:Public urination.jpg[edit]
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68.173.113.106 18:46, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
File:Can you lick it ! (Klashorst).jpg[edit]
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68.173.113.106 19:16, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Photo supprimée[edit]
Bonsoir,
J'ai supprimé File:Ticky Holgado's tomb.JPG. Le sculpteur du buste est probablement toujours en vie. ~Pyb (talk) 22:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
File:Lesbic use of nipple clamps and strap-on dildo.jpg[edit]
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189.141.142.139 15:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
File:Lesbic use of nipple clamps and strap-on dildo.jpg[edit]
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Delicious carbuncle (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
File:Woman taking bad.jpg[edit]
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Sarah (talk) 18:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
File:Horse-transport-sign.JPG[edit]
Hi. Please understand that adding Category:Horse transport is an unneeded double-categorizing as Category:Horse-related road signs is directly contained in Category:Horse transport :). We aim at being as specific as possible in selecting categories, if you take a look at the tree of Category:Horse transport (or any other) you'll notice the relations between the subcats and your selections will be much more refined next time. (similarly applies to Category:Videos_of_nudity) Regardz! Orrlingtalk 18:04, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. :) The way things work with the categories has been explained to you, including emphasis on the rationale behind why horse-related road signs are also related to horse-transport. You may call for arbitration if you're unhappy with it, but please don't engage in edit-fights, which only harms our readers (and leads to little point). - The prevalent classification method here is based much on CommonSense, triple-meaning. Regards, Orrlingtalk 21:19, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- I did explain to YOU why the categorizing is not right for that matter. Don't try to tell me you want to teach me how categorizing works (I'm older than you as a Commons user and I've fixed many categorizing and overcategorizing problems). Instead of asking me not to engage in edit-fight you should at least try to think and start with an answer/comment considering the example I mentionned to you. This file is a road sign showing a horse that has nothing to do with horse transport, and there are other examples such as File:Attention chevaux 1.jpg, File:CH-Gefahrensignal-Tiere (2).svg, File:Trnová, pozor přechod pro koně.jpg or File:Singapore Road Signs - Warning Sign - Animals.svg (those road signs warn that you can meet animals - and mainly horses - ahead and that yo have to be careful, but they don't say if these horses are used as a transport mean - it can also be, for instance, horses bred for meat). Therefore [:Category:Horse-related road signs]] also concerns signs that are not dealing with horse transport, so it cannot be a subcat of Category:Horse transport. QED. So now please try to build a more logical category tree (as I suggested above) instead of reverting me. Thanks in advance. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 12:35, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Cat is watching you.[edit]
A cat.
The Fly 21:51, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Forez-info[edit]
Salut
J'ai finalement fait une page groupée, ici Commons:Deletion requests/Wikijoe upload Forez-info, devant le nombre ! Tu peux y donner ton avis. Celui laissé sur Commons:Deletion requests/File:Musée de la mine.jpg ne sera pas lu, la page est désormais orpheline. ----MGuf (d) 18:35, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
A kitten for you![edit]
ilove you
Hazem jridi (talk) 11:27, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you![edit]
| The Photographer's Barnstar | |
| Bonjour TwoWings,
J'aimerais utiliser ta photo "Big rusty boat in Moynaq" pour la couverture d'un roman traitant de l'assèchement de la mer d'Aral. Quelles sont les mentions à insérer? Merci! Maki71 (talk) 08:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC) |
File:Teen denim cutoffs.jpg[edit]
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99of9 (talk) 11:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much[edit]
Thanks very much for your categorization help for images related to Category:South Park (cartoon), much appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
©[edit]
Bonjour. Je ne suis pas sûr que votre demande de citer votre nom avec le sigle "©" (qui signifie "copyright") soit compatible avec les licences de type "Creative Commons"... --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 14:07, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
- Bonjour, je vous remercie de vous inquiéter pour moi. --Claude Truong-Ngoc (talk) 16:35, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
File:Fellation Tracy and Rick-1.jpg[edit]
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AFBorchert (talk) 23:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
File:Rei (SG).jpg[edit]
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Yanguas (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
foto Life_in_Manastirea_Humorului.jpg[edit]
Hereby I want to ask you friendly, if we can use your foto on wikimedia Life_in_Manastirea_Humorului.jpg for a publication within an equestrian journal. My mail adress is thomas.druml@gmx.at
Wang Du[edit]
Bonjour. I have some questions on the page: Commons talk:Deletion requests/File:Wang Du, World Markets 2004. MAC Lyon. 1.jpg . Kind regards. Ismoon (talk) 14:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I made an appointement with the "iconographe" at the Musée d'Art Contemporain de Lyon, tomorrow, for asking if a license is possible in the case of the work of Wang Du, in front of the museum but in the park. Ismoon (talk) 14:44, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
File:Abu Ghraib 70.jpg[edit]
I have removed 2 categories from that image, as their addition is frankly in bad taste. Flashing ones breasts is an entirely different concept to being forced to lift ones top to show their breasts; in fact it's a vile disgusting act on the part of the perpetrators of the abuse in Abu Ghraib, and we shouldn't be mixing this up with the exhibitionist act. I've also remove the prostitute category, as it is entirely heresay, and even if she was a prostitute, it isn't relevant to this particular photo. I'm not attacking you at all, but I would ask that we use a little common sense with such images. russavia (talk) 13:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Opéra de Lyon et Place Pradel - Guignol.jpg[edit]
Bonjour,
ce fichier a déjà fait l'objet d'une délation en 2011 ... et conservé ... Dois-je espérer une nouvelle requête tous les 2 ans ?
Cordialement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GO69 (talk • contribs)
- "Délation". Les grands mots. Tu n'as pas l'impression d'exagérer un peu ?
- Bref, passons sur ta réaction désagréable et disproportionnée.
- Il se trouve tout d'abord que je ne connaissais pas la précédente demande. Ensuite, il se trouve aussi qu'il s'agissait d'une demande de suppression groupée et ce style de demande produit souvent quelques ratés pour certains fichiers.
- Cette photo en particulier pose doublement problème car elle se focalise sur une sculpture trop récente pour être libre de droits et l'arrière-plan est essentiellement composé de la partie récente de l'Opéra de Lyon, donc une architecture qu'on ne peut pas utiliser librement de cette façon. Les plans larges de l'Opéra sont acceptables car il est quasi impossible de photographier la partie ancienne sans montrer la partie moderne, donc on peut considéré que la partie récente est alors de minimis, ce qui n'est pas le cas quand une photo montre majoritairement la partie moderne. Bref, je sais que c'est frustrant de voir disparaître des photos qu'on a prises et chargées sur Commons (je connais ça...), mais il faut savoir accepter les règles et contraintes d'un projet quand on y participe. Désolé, donc, mais ta photo risque fortement d'être supprimée. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 11:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Monsieur,
visiblement nous ne partageons pas les mêmes règles élémentaires de politesse et de courtoisie, mais peut-être sont-elles proscrites sur Commons à moins que vous ne vous croyez autorisé à vous en affranchir ... En tête, formule de politesse, salutation, vouvoiement ... Passons.
Où je réponds de manière concise, un tantinet espièglement, ne parlant que d'un fichier, vous vous pensez autorisé à porter des jugements de valeur sur une personne vous étant parfaitement étrangère (réaction désagréable, disproportionnée ...), mais peut-être ne souffrez-vous pas la contradiction ?
Guignol au premier plan: le fragment d'une sculpture beaucoup plus importante qui, combiné avec le premier étage de Chenavard et Pollet, avec le toit de Nouvel, permettait un travail intéressant sur les obliques ... Passons, intrinsèquement les fichier chargés sur Commons ne sauraient à priori avoir de valeur artistique, si minime soit-elle.
Peu me chaut que ce fichier soit supprimé. En revanche, je trouve parfaitement inacceptable que vous sous-entendiez que quiconque ose vous faire remarquer que votre requête a déjà un précédent méconnaît sciemment les règles fondamentales de commons ("il faut savoir accepter les règles et contraintes d'un projet quand on y participe"), s'en affranchit délibérément et soit de-facto un mauvais-joueur. Vous ne faîtes guère crédit à votre interlocuteur de désintéressement et de désir de partage libre des connaissances. Sachez que Wikipédia n'est pour moi ni un blog pour polémiquer ni une encyclopédie propre à satisfaire mon égo.
Quant à la précédente demande en suppression, il ne tenait qu'à vous de vous en enquérir avant de la renouveler.
Si deletion est un faux-ami de la langue anglaise, ce que je sais à présent grâce à vous et ce dont je vous remercie, il me semble que les intentions qui conduisent à proposer à la suppression des fichiers ne sont pas forcément toujours amicales.
Je crois qu'il eut été beaucoup plus simple de me laisser un message un rien plus cordial, un peu moins invectivant, tout en conservant l'argumentaire technique de deuxième partie au demeurant très intéressant.
J'espère que vous comprendrez que se retrancher derrière l'application subjective et draconienne de lois et règlements, dont tout un chacun ne peut avoir qu'une lecture particulière et univoque, ou s'ériger en donneur de leçon n'est pas de nature à encourager la contribution et la coopération du plus grand nombre. Je ne crois pas d'ailleurs que l'on puisse faire montre de véritable pédagogie en qualifiant d'entrée de jeu ses interlocuteurs de désagréables et en les suspectant de mauvaise foi.
Espérant vous rencontrer à l'avenir sur Commons ou Wikipédia dans un climat plus serein, je vous renouvelle mes cordiales salutations. --GO69 (talk) 16:13, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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- Je ne vais pas trop perdre mon temps avec quelqu'un qui semble avoir une haute estime de lui-même et s'amuse à donner des leçons sans observer ses propres torts. Mais je voudrais quand même réagir rapidement à certains aspects de votre message car j'aimerais que vous compreniez :
- 1) que c'est culotté de donner des leçons de savoir-vivre quand on accuse quelqu'un avec des mots aussi disproportionnés que "délation" ; c'est donc aussi une contradiction, pour reprendre votre propos : on n'utilise pas ce genre de mot si on souhaite lancer une discussion cordiale ! (et surtout on ne se plaint pas de la réaction après coup !)
- 2) que, lorsqu'on prétend ne pas être touché par l'éventuelle suppression d'un fichier et ne pas vouloir utiliser Wikimedia comme un outil de polémique, on ne laisse pas ce genre de message et on se focalise sur les faits et le sujet concerné (en l'occurrence : est-ce que la photo proposée à la suppression le mérite ou non ?... avec des arguments, etc.)
- 3) vous trouverez finalement peu de contributeurs qui passeront du temps à expliquer leur démarche, surtout après de tels messages, donc merci de ne plus me donner de leçon de "pédagogie"
- 4) je n'ai jamais remis en cause ni la qualité du cliché ni son utilité, mais seulement le non-respect des règles de Wikimedia Commons (et accessoirement des lois)
- 5) Chaque utilisateur des projets Wikimedia est le garant du respect des règles, des objectifs et du bon fonctionnement de ces mêmes projets. Or, le non-respect des copyright et autres droits d'auteur est une chose sur laquelle il faut veiller constamment et surtout pas attendre d'éventuelles "plaintes" ! Imaginez si on vous prend au mot et au pied de la lettre : on n'a qu'à importer n'importe quelle œuvre (des Picasso, des extraits de film de Spielberg, des caricatures de Plantu, des romans in extenso de Stephen King, que sais-je encore...) et les garder jusqu'à ce que quelqu'un s'en plaigne ? Non. Cela ne fonctionne pas comme ça ici. Le risque de cette dérive, d'ailleurs, serait d'avoir très facilement des plaintes des artistes les plus connus alors que des artistes qui n'auraient pas les mêmes moyens ni les mêmes "fan-clubs" verraient leurs œuvres "pillées" allègrement et utilisées de façon illégale sous prétexte que personne ne s'en plaint ! Inacceptable. Il faut vous souvenir d'une chose essentielle : le pourquoi de ces différentes règles. Les projets de Wikimedia doivent proposer un contenu librement utilisable y compris commercialement (n'importe qui peut donc essayer de vendre des images de Commons ou des articles de Wikipédia, tant qu'il mentionne correctement les auteurs et les licences qui vont avec). Ce qui veut dire que quelqu'un peut se croire libre de vendre la reproduction d'une œuvre qu'il trouve sur Commons s'il fait confiance aveuglément au fait que sa présence sur ce site fait de cette œuvre une œuvre librement utilisable (vous me suivez ?). Conséquence : Wikimedia et, surtout, les utilisateurs qui importent ces fichiers, se rendent complices (involontairement ou volontairement selon les cas) d'un trafic illégal et d'un détournement du droit d'auteur. J'espère que vous comprends désormais qu'il ne s'agit donc pas de zèle de ma part ou d'une quelconque animosité envers vous, mais simplement de sérieux vis-à-vis des projets auxquels je (on) participe.
- Cordialement. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 19:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Monsieur,
dans la mesure où vous vous honorez des messages épidermiques dont vous avez bien voulu me gratifier, il paraît plus que légitime qu'ils figurent sur votre page utilisateur. Tout un chacun pourra être à même d'apprécier la douceur de vos propos totalement dénués d'animosité et de mépris. Définitivement, je ne partage pas votre conception très particulière de la bienveillance et de la courtoisie dont devraient visiblement être empreints selon vous les échanges entre contributeurs. Inutile de perdre votre précieux temps à me répondre, en votre nom et celui si appropriable de l'ensemble des contributeurs. Encore et toujours cordialement.--GO69 (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
a heads-up[edit]
In 2011 you participated in Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jcb_(de-adminship 2). That discussion ended with User:Jcb losing his administrator privileges.
This note is to inform you that User:Odder proposed Jcb have unconconditional access to administrator privileges restored.
Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jcb (readmin) is scheduled to close on May 20th.
Cheers Geo Swan (talk) 23:37, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
File:Selfportrait of Klashorst.jpg[edit]
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Conti|✉ 13:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Category:Ethnographic_topless_adolescent_girls[edit]
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FunkMonk (talk) 00:17, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
File:Fellation Tracy and Rick-1.jpg[edit]
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File:Nelson Mandela painted portrait P1040890.jpg[edit]
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Túrelio (talk) 17:50, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Using your picture as a background image for a catalog[edit]
Hi,
We would like to inform you that, with your permission, we will be using your (modified) image of the Notre Dame candles as a background image of the cover of our product catalog http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Candles_Notre_Dame.JPG# Please confirm that we do have the permission to use it. If you would prefer to contact us directly, please email mario@indioproducts.com. Thank you!
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