User talk:WhisperToMe

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[edit] Image:CerritosAirDisasterImpactPoints.png

Hello, and thank your for sharing your files with Commons. There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. Please remember that all uploads require source, author and license information. Could you please resolve these problems, which are described on the page linked in above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which information may be missing. Thank you.

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[edit] Eduardo Gomes

I don't go to the airport that often, cause it's too far from the place I live. But whenever I get the chance to get a clear picture of the sign, I'll remember to change it! Rdamniel

[edit] Image:EntrancetoFortDavisnationalHistoricSite.JPG

There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

This message was added automatically by Filbot, if you need some help about it, ask its master or go to the Commons:Help desk. --Fil nik 05:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Vincennes shot.jpg

Hi. You listed this at Commons:Deletion requests/2008/03/06 which is for the 6TH OF MARCH. Please list new deletions ON TODAY'S DATE, which is Commons:Deletion requests/2008/03/14. I fixed this one for you so you don't have to go back and do that. But please watch this in the future. -N 17:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please link images

Hello WhisperToMe!

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The important point is that the images should be placed in the general structure somewhere. There are a large number of completely unsorted images on the Commons right now. If you would like to help to place some of those images where they can be found, please do!

Thank you. Siebrand 20:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:CunninghamElementaryHouston.JPG

There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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[edit] Image:FiestaMartHouston.JPG

There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

This message was added automatically by Filbot, if you need some help about it, ask its master (Fil nik) or go to the Commons:Help desk. --Fil nik 00:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures from flicker

Hi! It is always a good idea to upload the highest resolution version when you get a picture from flicker. It makes the image way more informative. I've uploaded a much higher resolution version of Image:MiamiAirportTerminal.jpg. --J.smith (talk) 01:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please link images

Hello WhisperToMe!

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BotMultichillT (talk) 06:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Image:LongMSHouston.JPG is uncategorized since 1 January 2009. BotMultichillT (talk) 06:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Image:HamiltonMiddleHouston.JPG is uncategorized since 9 January 2009. BotMultichillT (talk) 06:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Image:HoustonHealthHumanServicesHQ.JPG is uncategorized since 20 January 2009. BotMultichillT 06:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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Image:MandellParkHoustonTX.JPG was uncategorized on 22 August 2009.
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[edit] Military of Taiwan and Republic of China categories

As the main creator of this nest of categories please allow me to explain the reason for this. (If you can't be bothered to read the long version, the short version is that it is done this way to both respect reality as it is whilst attempting not to upset the political sensitivities of all sides.)

The long version:- The Republic of China existed as the main recognised political entity in China from about 1912 to about 1948 so any files related to the Chinese military of that time can be legitimately and almost uncontroversially be included in categories titled the Republic of China. After 1948 according to the PRC the RoC ceased to exist and today there is no political entity called the Republic of China whatever the authorities on Taiwan may chose to call themselves. Of course the reality is a little different with many nations continuing to recognise those on Taiwan as the legal government of China until the mid to late 1970s. After this point most nations recognised the PRC as the government of China. Today very few countries,not even its closest ally the USA, recognise the RoC as a sovereign state. The PRC has alsoworked hard to pressurise international organisations not to recognise or use the words Republic of China, in order not to offend PRC sensibilities it is now usual to refer to Taiwan rather then the RoC, for example there is no Republic of China at the Olympics but there is/was an entity called Chinese Taipei.

There are four ways to categorise files with regards the military of the RoC/Taiwan, which reflect the different positions taken.

i)There is one China called the PRC, the RoC no longer exists and the forces there are the remenants of a warlord faction which will be integrated the PLA as soon as the malcontents there see sense.

ii)There is one China called the RoC, those calling themselves the PRC are rebels who will be crushed when the beloved homeland is liberated.

iii)There is a nation called Taiwan which exists, its culture, people and language are distinct and independent of that of the mainland. In 1948 its people were brutally invaded by forces fleeing China, who in the intervening years used military force to supress the local people and culture. The nation of Taiwan will throw of the shackles of these invaders and their desire for a single China and will one day chart its own way in the world.

iv)The status quo is a mess of names, interests and sensibilities and is far from perfect, however its the one people have gotten to know and accept so lets turn a blind eye to its inconsistencies and try not upset the apple cart.

The existing cats are organised in such a way as to reflect the fact that an entity called the Republic of China existed between 1911 and 1948. That an entity exists in Taiwan with many of the trappings of a nation state including a military, however these categories are nested in such a way so as to reflect the fact of a single China whilst at the same time trying to maintain the differences between the two.

In my opinion any attempt that implys the continued existence of the RoC after 1948 is likely to inflame those who lean towards the PRC. Any attempt to deny the existence of a polity in Taiwan that sees itself as the legitmate government of China will inflame the majority of those in Taiwan. Any attempt that there are two soverign nations one called China and one called Taiwan will inflame both a majority in Taiwan and China.

Like the world we live in the status quo with regards these categories here on Commons has natural inconsistencies, and cannot satisfy the opinions and hopes of everybody. However thus far the status quo seems to have worked so lets not upset the apple cart.KTo288 (talk) 17:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer and the link to Wikipedia Naming conventions (Chinese)-Republic of China, Taiwan, and variations thereof. Although I was previously unaware of it, I find it wise, succint and an accurate summary of the situation as I understand it. Actually I'm surprised that you haven't included the link on the discussion pages of those categories you are seeking to move as it seems a pretty persuasive arguement, if I ever need to edit an article on Taiwan at Wikipedia I now know where to look for guidance.

This is not Wikipedia, and sage as that guidance is, these are not articles that we are talking about, even so I do not hesitate in endorsing most of its advice (the one area I would dispute would be:- "Text should treat the Republic of China as a sovereign state with equal status with the People's Republic of China.'" which is itself disputed at the page itself.

Where we differ then is in how we would implement these guidelines. With an article what is used is language and constructions of words to create pictures and to express ideas. Commons does not deal with words, but with pictures and those pictures can create ideas and narratives in the mind of the observer. On commons pages, words in the form of introductions and captions can maybe help steer the direction of the narrative. However with categories unless you work very hard the order in which images are presented cannot be controlled and you have no control over the narrative. What control we do have over what and how an observer sees an image comes from categorisation.

I will use Category:Air force of Taiwan to illustrate this,as this was the category that first alerted me to your concerns. If we were to have one and only one category for this topic, then I think I would have to agree with you and move its contents to a category called Category:Air Force of the Republic of China. However that would be tantamount to saying you can only write an article using one sentence or one paragraph.

In articles, we use sentences to express a single idea, and paragraphs to link these ideas to create a theme. When done well these disparate paragraphs join to create a narrative. On Commons we don't have sentences and paragraphs but we do have categories and the taxonomic tree.

Within the tree indvidual files belong to or should belong to at least one category. However just as an article is not a jumble of haphazard unrelated sentences, Commons is not a mess of individual unrelated categories. Categories themselves can belong to categories which in turn belong to other categories. Any file that belongs to a category belongs to every category that that category belongs to and so on. So since the category Air force of Taiwan is a sub category of Air Force of the Republic of China every file presently in Air force of Taiwan also belongs to the category Air Force of the Republic of China, which in turn is a sub category of Category:Air force of China.

The wikipedia page offers the construction "Republic of China (Taiwan)" as a way to disambiguate between the pre 1949 entity and the current entity calling itself the "Republic of China", and this is exactly what is being done in the way the current categories are organised.

Again thank you, and my apologies if it seems I was lecturing you on a topic on that you are familiar with.KTo288 (talk) 23:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you prefer to keep this conversation in one or two places? This reply is being posted on both my talk page and yours.KTo288 (talk) 23:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Portuguese in Category:Air France Flight 447

Hi. The Portuguese for "The image gallery documents the search for the aircraft?" is "Esta galeria de imagens mostra a busca pelos destroços do avião" or "Esta galeria de imagens mostra a busca pelo avião". What is aircraft? Is the airplane? Or is the airplane after an accident?--Eduardoferreira (talk) 13:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. There is news saying that this image Busca voo Air France 447 3.jpg‎ is not from oil spit from the airbus. It is from a ship.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 23:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I think there are many spokesperson for Naval and Aeronautical Social Communication Center. I think one possibility is to use Vice-Chief for Social Communication Center. Give me an example for use to Deputy head for me to see if it is appropriate. Specifically in case of Jorge Amaral, he is a colonel, so you can call him as Colonel Jorge Amaral, vice-chief for Social Communication Center of Brazilian Air Force.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 00:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
The portuguese for this "These photographs document the search for possible survivors, as well as for mortal remains, debris and the flight recorders from the crashed plane." can be: Estas fotografias mostram as buscas por possíveis sobreviventes, assim como restos mortais, destroços e a caixa-preta do avião que caiu. So, you can use "Vice-chief" or "Deputy Head". I don´t know which one is more usual. It may depends on the context.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 01:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I have a question for you. Look these images: Tab "Fotos", uploaded today, june 6. It has been published by Força Aerea Brasileira, not from "Agencia Brasil". When the picture from FAB is published by Agencia Brasil, we can upload here in commons because the terms of license in Agencia Brasil is Creative Commons. But in the FAB site, the terms of license is All rights reserved. I think we will have to wait for Agencia Brasil to publish some picture from the searches in june 6, to upload here in commons. But, a doubt remains: Like this one published by FAB in June 3 and Busca voo Air France 447 3.jpg. The same picture in Agencia Brasil done by FAB, and the Agencia Brasil is the publisher. We can not upload here in commons presuming that FAB would give permission like to Agencia Brasil? --Eduardoferreira (talk) 02:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. It seems to be "Esta foto mostra a remoção pela Marinha Brasileira da empenagem que estava no mar pertencente ao AirFrance AirBus A330".--Eduardoferreira (talk) 23:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
It would be better like this: "Esta foto mostra a remoção pela Marinha Brasileira do estabilizador vertical que estava no mar pertencente ao AirFrance AirBus A330". This one is better.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 23:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the opportunity.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 01:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I need your help with this image Cindacta 3.jpg. The license is {{cc-by-nc-nd-3.0}} but the uploader have put the license as {{cc-by-3.0}} which is not the license of the picture. Do you know what to do?--Eduardoferreira (talk) 23:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I marked for deletion but don't know if I done it correctly.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 23:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Now I know I can use the parameter |1= combined with source in case of another copyvio.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 00:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE: File:Cindacta 3.jpg

I understand your request. I got the email from Mr. Zamprogno. Someone puts the future image of Cindacta 3. Signed by Ícaro Messias
10 June 2009 - 02:24.

[edit] File:Balanço dos dez dias de operações.jpg

Yes... Can be taking stock. But take stock will not seem that is a stock of goods? Balanço in this case have more to be with a resume, a resumé, a trial to condensate the most important facts on the rescue in those ten days. Brigadier Ramon Borges Cardoso making a presentation regarding the ten days of rescue activities of the bodies from the victims of the Air France Flight 447, executed by BAF aircrafts, France and United States. At his side, comandant of the 3rd Naval District, vice-almirant Edison Lawrence Dantas. <-- Maybe like this, something like this.--Eduardoferreira (talk) 13:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the barnstar of diligence and for the opportunity for helping with some translation. I need some help with some images. Vinheta Radar SP.ogg, Rosana Jatobá.jpg, Michelle Loreto.jpg, I think they are not free. It is the case to propose for speedy deletion or I have to make a deletion request?--Eduardoferreira (talk) 16:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Barnstar of Diligence

Thanks a lot! Yann (talk) 16:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Photo request

Hi! Would you mind taking photographs of the Qantas headquarters in Mascot? Thank you WhisperToMe (talk) 02:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll keep it mind for the next time that I'm out that way. J Bar (talk)

[edit] Hey ;-)

In the Lone Star College-North Harris article, could you take a wonderful picture of LSC-Greenspoint Center and upload it. The current image on the page is from an fall schedule article, plus the naming on the pic present is not completely 100% correct in the order as seen. Thanks 00:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Images of French buildings

Hi,

I just added a comment to this topic on Village Pump; as it may be of interest for you, here is a copy below:

On French WP, there is a special category for these images: fr:Catégorie:Image d'œuvre architecturale récente en fair use. Before any deletion, uploading them in this category would be smart. Thanks a lot. --Croquant (talk) 10:25, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome! I am not an administrator on FR. Am I still allowed to upload fair use images? If so, how? Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 00:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

It is not necessary to be an administrator: any registered user on French WP is allowed to upload images. However, you may find it difficult if you do not understand French, as the upload procedure is only in French. So, uploading an image to French WP is very similar to Commons; the main difference is about licences: for these images, you need two licences : the first is related to the building : {{Fair use bâtiment récent}}, and the second is the original licence given by the photographer; see for instance [1], one of my pictures, as an example. If you are in trouble with categorization, miss it out. If you need more details, feel free to leave me a message. Thanks, Croquant (talk) 06:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I forgot something important: some architects explicitly prohibit any reproduction of their works, for instance Ieoh Ming Pei for the Louvre Pyramid; such images should not be uploaded to French WP. For Millau viaduct, I am not sure about the architect's position; I try to find it out. Croquant (talk) 06:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I just found this image of Millau viaduct, previously on Commons, and uploaded to French WP, but I did not find the architect's position, if any; I asked the question on the Bistro of the french WP. Croquant (talk) 07:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, it seems that nothing prevents from uploading pictures of Millau viaduct to French WP. Croquant (talk) 17:51, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Alitalia headquarters

It is not possible to take those pictures: in Italy there is no such thing like "freedom of panorama", and that means it is not legally possible to take a picture of buildings whose architect has not been dead for 70 years. --TcfkaPanairjdde (talk) 17:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Even in that case, you can still be liable under Italian law, and that means that it is still illegal to publish that picture. --TcfkaPanairjdde (talk) 15:13, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

What you fail to understand is that if I take a picture of a modern building and I publish it (directly or undirectly), even in a country where modern buildings photos are freely publishable, I am committing a crime in Italy. I dont' know where are you from, but if you upload an "illegal" mp3 onto a computer in country X and distribute it there, you are still liable according to the law of the country you live. --TcfkaPanairjdde (talk) 16:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

"Would the courts really make a big deal about this case?" This is not the point, it would be nonetheless a crime and people willing to help you should be aware of this.

"one could get around it by asking that only non-Italian citizens fulfill the request" they would be liable of the same crime, even if obviously only those living in Italy would be actually persecuted. --TcfkaPanairjdde (talk) 21:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

If you think that could be useful, it might be a good idea to ask to experts how to handle the case. Bye. --TcfkaPanairjdde (talk) 17:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Photo Request

Hi WisperToMe,

you put a photo request about Germania Airline headquarters. I will do it, but i need better weather on a free weekend. Sven Wolter (talk) 12:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Note

Since its a recent upload, it cannot be kept. No proof of a free license. Sorry. --Leoboudv (talk) 04:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting the image passed. I received your message only after the bot marked the image. At least you got a response from the uploader. Some people on flickr that one contact (for license changes) totally ignore you sadly. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:31, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] HQ's in Paris

LCL. Not my image, but a good one

BNP-Paribas. I uploaded it

Societe Generale. I uploaded it too

--Tangopaso (talk) 20:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:CerritosAirDisasterImpactPoints.png

[edit] Eduardo Gomes

[edit] Image:EntrancetoFortDavisnationalHistoricSite.JPG

[edit] Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Vincennes shot.jpg

[edit] Please link images

[edit] Image:CunninghamElementaryHouston.JPG

[edit] Image:FiestaMartHouston.JPG

[edit] Pictures from flicker

[edit] Please link images

[edit] Military of Taiwan and Republic of China categories

[edit] Help with Portuguese in Category:Air France Flight 447

[edit] RE: File:Cindacta 3.jpg

[edit] File:Balanço dos dez dias de operações.jpg

[edit] The Barnstar of Diligence

[edit] Photo request

[edit] Hey ;-)

[edit] Images of French buildings

[edit] Alitalia headquarters

[edit] Photo Request

[edit] Note

[edit] HQ's in Paris

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