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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Trey314159 (talk • contribs) 00:30, 9 August 2014‎

IDF Flickr pictures[edit]

Please do not delete Israel Defense Forces Flickr's pictures. As you were told and other WikiCommons admins were informed, the Hebrew Chapter of Wikipedia Foundation is now in negotiations with the IDF Spokesperson Unit to solve this issue. There will be a meeting on this issue, but it was postponed due to the war that Israel is involved in. Please be patient. MathKnight (Talk) 17:49, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately there are way too many claims that permission will come, but it does not, and without some sort of statement or an {{OTRS pending}}, they will be marked for deletion based on their current copyright licences at the Flickr source. If they are deleted and permission happens, then an admin will restore them for you. Ww2censor (talk) 17:55, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Images uploaded before Dec 2011 are free based on a This release. See Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Images taken by Israel Defense Force for context. Thanks! matanya talk 20:17, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
@Matanya: @MathKnight: The images I tagged are clearly not freely licenced now and there is no evidence these fall under the free licence from 2011. In fact, in reference to the link you pointed to, it appears they have revised their licencing since then, so you know well that unless there is verification of the free licence for the current images, they will be tagged and deleted, even though some older images, in 2011, were freely licenced and will remain here. If someone can persuade the Irsaeli Army to provide the OTRS team with a confirmation that all their images are freely licenced, then, of course, we can keep them but someone will have to negotiate that. I don't see how anyone can claim that the old free licence from 3 years ago in one Twitter post can apply to any new images that were more recently uploaded to Flickr and then uploaded here, unless there is an actual blanket OTRS ticket for their images. The free licence from 2011 claim can only apply to those images that were clearly released under a free licence at the time they were reviewed. We need verifcation that all future images are freely licence and I doubt the OTRS team will accept the Twitter post applies to current images. Also don't forget that copyright owners can change their licences on Flickr whenever they want, which is why we review images, by FlickreviewR or manually, as soon as possible after they have been uploaded from Flickr and other sources. Such images as were uploaded with a free licence remain free here, even if the image on Flickr now shows a restrictive licence. So unless I see some evidence that current Israeli Army images from Flickr that have restrictive licences will be tagged appropriately.
As an example File:Flickr - Israel-Defense-Forces - 6th-Brigade Reserve-Unit-D9-bulldozer.jpg was uploaded in April 2014 but no review was done, so it was recently tagged by "Flock" as needing a review and FlickreviewR 2 failed it, so requested a human review which I did yesterday and I saw that it not freely licenced. Perhaps it was freely licenced at the time it was uploaded but there is no evidence of that and as we know it is best not to review our own uploads. Besides which if the image is a faithful original from Flickr, and not a cropped or modified image, it will usually be automatically reveiwed quite quickly after upload and usually well before a licence change at Flickr. Prove me wrong and I will happily not tag such images but when they are marked from human review someone will have to look at them. Ww2censor (talk) 22:24, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
I agree to every word you have said here. My only request was not blindly delete files without a file-by-file review. Thank you fir your help. matanya talk 05:28, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
I am not an admin so you will know that I cannot delete any files. Human review is just for such cases when idividual review is warranted. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 08:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Flickr files[edit]

Indeed, I totaly misunderstood about the license :( could you please check the last files I uploaded? I don't have how to reach the author by now so it's ok to speedy delete. Thanks a lot.Dianakc (talk) 19:30, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Dianakc: Thanks for asking. Unfortunately I'm sorry to tell you that none of the images you uploaded today have acceptable licence for us, so I have tagged them for deletion. Please be more careful when choosing images to upload. Just make sure they are freely licenced without any non-commercial or non-derivative restrictions. Don't give up trying to find great images for uploading here. You can always try asking the author on Flickr by sending them a FlickrMail but by past experience you should be patient as I once waited a year for a favourable reply and some users never respond. You can try searching the first (Attribution License) and last (Attribution-ShareAlike License) categories from this Flickr page for acceptably licenced images. There are several Begonia images there. Good luck. Ww2censor (talk) 22:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)


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