User talk:XL3

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, XL3!

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Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, XL3!

Tip: Add categories to your files

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CategorizationBot (talk) 11:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

• Image:Carte climatique de l'Espagne.png was uncategorized on 8 November 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
• Image:Climates of Italy.PNG was uncategorized on 10 November 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
• Image:Climates of Europe.png was uncategorized on 24 November 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:00, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
• Image:Frost in Europe.png was uncategorized on 4 December 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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←fetchcomms 03:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Sunshine map of Italy

Hi, I noticed you changed the map I uploaded about average sunshine in Italy. The data you put in it are wrong: the only reliable data are these by Pinna (daily hours of sunshine, they must be multiplied by 365). Also your climate map of Italy is questionable. Cheers--Carnby (talk) 12:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I don't agree with your edit on the sunshine page because your map is not based on a homogenous dataset. I have made a map using various sources (like the ones you cidetd in the talk pages) which looks different from the one I uploaded but I didn't choose it because the data were not homogenous. The map I posted is instead based on a study by Mario Pinna (you can check the source). As far as the climate map of Italy is concerned, this version is clearly wrong (it uses, for esample, the 0°C isotherm for D class climates); this one is much better.--Carnby (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Climate map of Spain

Hello, well, I know that map has created some controversy, but I just wanted to tell you that you should have made the map using some different references, specially because of the complicated and difficult to define climatology of the north-west part of the Iberian Peninsula (Galicia). You left four links in the discussion page of article "Climate of Spain", but all of those links are based in the same Koppen Climate Classification. Let me suggest you that other authors (I know this is said in the article as a note, but not in the map) like Trewartha or Salvador Rivas-Martínez. I leave you here the link of the map that the University of León made about the Bioclimatology of Europe: http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/bi_med-1.jpg

Hope I have not anoyed you with this thing.

Hello. You don't annoy me at all. Actually, it is in practice impossible to use several sources for one map, it would be a kind of original research (if you technically can, one map = one source). I have decided to use this source for my map (http://www.schweizerbart.de/resources/downloads/paper_free/55034.pdf), because it is the more accurate according to the Köppen work, especially for Central Europe. The Trewhartha's work is interesting, but he used the cumulation of precipitations, which is for many scientists hazardous. The link that you have given talks about biomes : it is a close notion, but not exactly the same as our present subject. But I agree, Csb areas are very difficult to classify.--XL3 (talk) 19:52, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Greetings.

The above mentioned global map although prepared according Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification is not detailed enough, this is the downside of this global climate map. The Spanish State Meteorological Agency en:Agencia Estatal de Meteorología and Portuguese Meteorological Institute en:Instituto de Meteorologia together have prepared and released a extensive climatological atlas about the climate of the Iberian peninsula. On page 18 of this climate atlas is a detailed map of the Iberian peninsula which was prepared according Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification about the climate types of this peninsula. Can you redraw the climate map of Spain (and indeed the climate map of Europe) by taking this map as a source? Thank you.

http://www.aemet.es/documentos/es/divulgacion/publicaciones/Atlas-climatologico/Atlas.pdf

Saguamundi (talk) 18:24, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Climates of Europe map

The Climates of Europe map urgently needs to be corrected.

The climate of central Turkey is cold semi-arid (Köppen Climate Classification: BSk). It does not have a cool-summer Mediterranean climate at all, because the average summer temperatures do exeed the maximum limit of 21 C (see climate datas of individual Turkish cities in that area eg. Konya, Ankara, Eskişehir), the annual average precipitation in this area is below 400 mm which is the maximum limit of a semi-arid climate, while the summers are driest season, the resemblance of the mediterranean rainfall pattern is diluted as there is no precipitation maximum in winter, but a maximum in spring and/or autumn. And importantly the continentality of this area is pronounced as winter temperatures are mostly below freezing (average nightime temperatures are below freezing and average daytime temperatures are few degrees above freezing) and winter precipitation is predominantly in the form of snow with a snow cover of no less than 40 days. Towards the east the climate changes to the warm dry-summer continental (Köppen Climate Classification: Dsa) and Ankara with its annual average precipitation of 400 mm is a borderline between the dry-summer continental and cold semi-arid climates. And also the climate of the northwestern part of Turkey (northeast of Istanbul) is not humid subtropical but oceanic (Köppen Climate Classification: BSK). These have to be corrected.

The University of Melbourne, has prepared and released an extensive climatological publication with an updated world map of the Köppen-Geiger climate classification. On page 9 of this publication is a detailed map of Europe including Turkey which clearly shows its central part classified as a cold semi-arid climate. The climate map of Europe must be redrawn by taking this map as a source.

http://www.hydrol-earth-syst-sci.net/11/1633/2007/hess-11-1633-2007.pdf

Saguamundi (talk) 10:00, 19 October 2011 (UTC)