Category talk:Lockheed military aircraft

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Proposed move to Lockheed military aircraft[edit]

Surely the notion of categorizing any type (ie model) of aircraft as military or civil is illogical. Logically, An aircraft can only be categorized as military if it is owned by the military, operated by the military, operated in a military legal environment, or arguably marked in a military scheme. In the case of colour images of Lockheed Neptune, half of them are military and half of them are clearly civil marked, so they should not come under a military parent category; similar for P-3 Orion, PV, Lodestar, etc. It's individual aircraft that are military or civil, not the type/model. Discuss. PeterWD (talk) 12:13, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

No, "military aircraft" refers to aircraft designed for use for the military. The Neptune, to use your example, is an aircraft designed for the military, so, by default it would be categoried as a "military aircraft". (And - the reason for the proposed move - "Military planes" is a remarkably unencyclopedic term; "planes" is slang.) - The Bushranger (talk) 13:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, that I believe may be based on a simplistic traditional assumption, rather than cold logic. I have started a developed thread at Commons talk:WikiProject_Aviation, a project group I have only just discovered. PeterWD (talk) 11:40, 12 December 2011 (UTC)