Category talk:Navies by country

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Category:Navy by country[edit]

  1. Should be plural, rename Category:Navies by country.
  2. Rename sub-cat "Navy of country" cats which cover multiple organizations (e.g. Germany) to "Navies of country"
  3. Rename sub-cat "Navy of country" cats which really refer to a single navy (e.g. Guatemala) to their proper name. Josh (talk) 16:39, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Navy of Turkey[edit]

According to User:Pivox, Turkey does not have "Naval Forces", but has a Command for "Naval Forces". I hate to point at people, but this user has left a lot of damage behind. Regrettably there are few Turkish contributors (or other people who have a sincere, constructive interest towards Turkey) to repair the damage and build on. Therefore I cannot promise to do the job alone. (In the last days I made hundreds of new cats writing with two fingers and with little information technology.) I will continue. E4024 (talk) 01:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Indeed all three Turkish Armed Forces have "plural" names: (Turkish) Land Forces ("Turkish Army", but we have 4 Armies), (Turkish) Air Forces, and (Turkish) Naval Forces. The General Command and the Commander-in-Chief of the Naval Forces sit in Ankara, the national capital, far away from the sea. The Navy (TR: "Donanma") Command and its Commander (normally a four-star admiral like his superior) are at shore in Gölcük. It is a simple fact. The problem is, while very few volunteers are trying to develop these cats with their subcats etc, some with little knowledge of the issues and less of English language come and send torpedos from unseen submarines. Sorry to use these words, but there is so much need of work force to put in order these things that some destroy, willingly or not. The only thing we do not need is sabotage. I'm ashamed to accept that we do not even have regular "personnell" cats, ranks, classes etc. I was looking at the image here of a famous Air Force(s) pilot, and I see that he was categorized as a "lieutenant"! I may be wrong, but I have difficulty finding proper classification of "military pilots" by force (Air, Sea, Land) although I see many people here contributing to Ottoman items. (I mean we could take a bit more care of today before going into details of the past.) I consider it my shame that Turkey has so many Aviation pioneers, like female acrobatic or combat pilots early in the past century, but until today or yesterday we did not even have a cat for them. I also consider it almost a personal fault that having -probably- one of the very few female commanders of an Air Force acrobacy team in the world, at present, I have not yet been able to reach the lady (major) to take a mobile phone shot of hers... Nothing to do with this cat? I'm explaining my disappointment that causes me to keep away from working in these areas; the reason for which they "suck". Sorry. Anybody else to give a helping hand? --E4024 (talk) 01:36, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Since exactly "two years" by next month, we will be having "two cats for one" of our several military coups of the last century (1960). If one of the good colleagues who came to discuss that disruption had given a little more of their voluntary time (10-15 mins?) to "merge" those two cats instead of discussing about the issue (and criticising this user) now we could have one less problem and one less still unclosed 2017 CfDs. I know it is a voluntary work and no-one has an obligation to reduce by one the military coups in my country, but I with all sincerity wish to build on Commons, escaping only from areas -like these- where discussion, to my taste, has flared up. As my doc says, I also need to sleep a bit more. Therefore I will avoid making links to the other cats with futile discussions, all in the area of the Armed Forces of Turkey. P. D. Imagine if someone had made changes that led to make the number of military coups in Turkey one less than in real life; would nobody do anything? Whatever. Thank you very much if anyone read all this. --E4024 (talk) 01:55, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • @E4024: This category name is consistent with a decision made long ago (regrettably in my opinion) to name all navy categories "Navy of country" instead of their correct proper name. This is probably because some countries have had multiple navies in their history and the official names of navies do not look neat and consistent in Category:Navy by country. However, I would prefer that such categories (as well as air forces, armies, and other military organizations) be named as with other organizations on Commons, that is by their proper name. "Navy of Turkey" is an exonym imposed on it by Commons solely for categorization that is unnecessary. In fact most of the sub cats of these "Navy of country" cats are by the actual name of the navy or other branch. I would like to see this category renamed Category:Turkish Naval Forces (their official English moniker), but this decision really should be made at the Category:Navy by country or even Category:Military by country level as it applies to a lot more than just Turkey. Josh (talk) 16:32, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Closed (no objections) Josh (talk) 17:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)