Category talk:Residual current devices

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Prefer the use of "earth leakage circuit breakers" for this commodity. Anybody who objects this change? Are the shown files still in the correct category, after the change? --Stunteltje (talk) 15:47, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Residual current devices[edit]

Hello Stunteltje,

en:Earth leakage circuit breaker states that: Current-operated ELCBs are generally known today as RCDs (residual current device). These also protect against earth leakage, though the details and method of operation are different. When the term ELCB is used it usually means a voltage-operated device. Similar devices that are current operated are called Residual-current devices.

My opinion is, that devices you've recently re-categorized as ELCBs are in fact RCDs/RCCBs (see a label on the front of Image:Residual_current_device_2pole.jpg...) and I would prefer to see them either (at least) in both of these categories, or in RCCBs only, and have ELCBs just as reference/redirect to RCCBs.

Also note, that for those of images, that are of german origin, either the device itself, or it's file is named FI-Schalter, FI-Schutzschalter, which according to de:Fehlerstromschutzschalter refers to RCD/RCCB.

The last thing is, that it's generally not wise to just "wipe out" a regular category, which correspond and is referenced from equivalent article at english wiki.

Regards, --Teslaton (talk) 21:20, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with that last thing. That is what I wrote in Dutch on this page. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
  • First of all:I am very glad to have this discussion. What I tried to do is to group the subjects in a technical structure. My problem is that in my days as electrician - many years ago - I did a worldwide electrical standardisation job and time didn't stop since then. So I knew from before that things could go wrong and in the Dutch version of the village pump I asked to correct me if I made mistakes or things could be done better. No other reaction than from Pieter. I told him that it is inevitable that regrouping leads to temporary results, later corrected.
On the subject: I used an old Shell General index to MESC and recent equipment isn't mentioned. So I missed this development, as I am retired now. I checked "Earth leakage circuit breakers" on the internet and I found that these devices can be bought all over the world and for not eletricians it was - in my opinion - a better name for a category to find than Residual-current devices. You make clear that this is not correct any more. OK, let things do better. Unfortunately we have to work with the fact that most images are of German origin and I am not able to differ in ELCB's and RCD's, nor it is wise to do so. I'll reverse the action and make a copy of this discussion on the discussion page of the subject. --Stunteltje (talk) 07:31, 22 October 2008 (UTC)