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User:Howard61313[edit]

Look at [1]. Howard61313 was clearly tracking my edits. I have tried to communicate with him on his talk page, but he still keep tracking my edits(See: [2], [3]). He obviously does not intend to stop. I did not want it to become an "edit war".--Kai3952 (talk) 12:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

You made an outrageous misunderstanding. I didn't track anyone's edits, What I really track are the categories about Taiwan, and what I really care are the improvement and the adding of translations of the categories, it's not a matter of who the former editors are (that is, whether those are your edits or not, I'll do the same thing). Stop removing my translations to the page, which is a nonsense reversion because you are the one who tracks all my edits, no matter what I've added. (see: 1, I've added the translation in Japanese and Korean, but the user reverted it just because it's my edit).--Howard61313 (talk) 23 April 2018 (Mon) 12:13 (UTC)
Look at [4], [5], and [6]. The problem is, when I created a new category, why do you know in a "short time"?--Kai3952 (talk) 12:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
I simply edit them following their container categories. I didn't check the time of creation at all, and I don't know whether you (or anyone else) created them or not.--Howard61313 (talk) 23 April 2018 (Mon) 13:01 (UTC)
Look at [7], [8]. I created "Views from Mount Elephant (Taipei)" category at 15:57, and you edited it at 16:27. Can you explain why you knew that I created "Views from Mount Elephant (Taipei)" category half an hour ago?--Kai3952 (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Who knew it? Why on earth should I know it? Why on earth should this be a concern of mine? Like I said before. I didn't check the time of creation at all. It's not my concern when they were created. It's not my concern who created them, either. Half an hour ago, two months ago or ten years ago, they all mean nothing to me. The main problem you've caused should to be blamed. Now it has been proved that your reversions based on the reason of "stop tracking" are unreasonable and nonsense, since the reason turns out to be your own misconception, nobody wants to track you. Even if anyone does, it's said below that "tracking another user's edits for the purpose of improving Commons" are not prohibited. Besides, "stop tracking" is an untenable reason itself to revert anybody's edition. You didn't even check with me whether or not my editions is a matter of tracking "before" selfishly making such reversions and unilaterally judging my editions as something to be reverted with the ridiculous reason. It's funny that you have the nerve to blame me first for "not discussing before".--Howard61313 (talk) 25 April 2018 (Wed) 03:36 (UTC)

In general, it's fine to track another user's edits for the purpose of improving Commons. If someone has made errors or incomplete information across several pages, their Special:Contributions is a good place to find work. Harassment is a different story, of course, and it won't be tolerated. Kai3952, do you disagree with the content of Howard61313's edits? Guanaco (talk) 20:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

@Guanaco: Look at his edits. You can see from the nature of his changes to my edits, and he are mainly directed at "my translation". The problem is, most peoples would not expect to be tracked by other users. I think he should inform me on my talk page, and to discuss my problem with translation in Chinese. This is why I feel he was tracking my edits.--Kai3952 (talk) 21:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: Let's step back from the issue of tracking for a moment. Would you consider his edits to be good, neutral, or damaging? Guanaco (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
All I know is that there is a way to translate with more conciseness, which I replace the former, wordy and unsmooth translation with. It's not really my concern who the former translators were, let alone directing at them. Even if the translation is done by anyone else, I'll do the same edit to it. I've had enough with Kai3952's "directed at me" complaining and all his other unilateral accuses on me. Yes, he may mean no harm on me, and he may do all this unintentionally, but no matter what his intentions are, he do misunderstand me, causing me trouble.--Howard61313 (talk) 25 April 2018 (Wed) 03:08 (UTC)
You didn't discuss with me before as well!! My only problem is that your translation is "not very fluent" in my opinion. I think, concise translation may cause misunderstanding. If your comprehension of English is not to the level of a "native speaker"(like those English speakers in English-speaking countries), then I will worry about a problem: Most users of Chinese speakers misunderstand that causes their improper use of categories. This is not what I want to see happen. Therefore, I will choose to change or remove your edits. In other words, I hope you STOP now.--Kai3952 (talk) 14:44, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
By the way, I'm already discussing "your English" at COM:HD. See: [9].--Kai3952 (talk) 14:52, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
No matter what the result is, it is about the relations of buses and automobiles. My correction to the former wordy and unsmooth Chinese translation is another different thing. Don't lump them together. It is me who hopes you to STOP now.--Howard61313 (talk) 28 April 2018 (Sat) 12:35 (UTC)
I know — but this shows that your command of English is "inadequate." Because they told me that the term automobile absolutely do "not" include buses. Moreover, they stressed that it is not normal. If you think there is a problem with my understanding of Chinese, how do you prove that my translation is wordy and unsmooth? I hope you "clearly" point it out, rather than blamed and complained.--Kai3952 (talk) 17:57, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
It's obvious. Taking Category:Transport by country for example, it is translated as "Category:各國交通" on zh.wikipedia. What the former editions on some categories here are weirdly translating it as "按國家分類的交通", which is "relatively" more wordy and unsmooth. When the translation can be done in concise ways, there is no need to ridiculously replace them with wordy and unsmooth ones. Another example showing that your ability to translate English words is "inadequate" as well, when you changed "緊急機構", the translation for "emergency service", into "緊急服務". The definition for emergency service is referred to as "the public organizations that respond to and deal with emergencies when they occur" on the dictionary. Of course the word "機構" is more proper than "服務" here. Other examples also show that "service" shouldn't be translated as "服務" in some cases, such as the National Intelligence Service, which should be translated as "國家情報院" instead of "國家情報服務". By the way, if the categorization for buses and automobiles doesn't work, I'll simply stop it. I urge you to do the same on the problem you caused.--Howard61313 (talk) 30 April 2018 (Mon) 05:28 (UTC)
Now I finally understand it! What you want to say is that my translation is not "precise" enough. If, as you said, my ability to translate English words is inadequate, then why do you say: "wordy and unsmooth"? Now, I only see you blaming me, because you didn't tell me that any solution to solve the problem. I think, what do you mean should be: Look at the Chinese Wikipedia category, they are translated like that. So you want me to do it the way they would?--Kai3952 (talk) 23:33, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
By asking the first question, you've proved that you don't understanding actually. It's two problems you've made, yet again you confused one of them with the other. --Howard61313 (talk) 2 May 2018 (Wed) 14:24 (UTC)
@Howard61313: Well...which question are you talking about? I stopped removing your edits a few days ago, but I don't know what you want to discuss. Also, you haven't told me what you want me to do. What do you want me to help you with?--Kai3952 (talk) 12:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Anyway, "wordy and unsmooth" is not used to talk about the translation of "emergency service", but the former translations earlier instead. By the way, you've already done me a favor by stopping removing my edits (for the former translations), and I really appreciate this. If you want to help, you can replace all the term of "火車站" with "軌道運輸車站" or other suitable options for the "Category:Train stations in XXX"(City/County) in Taiwan (the reason can be seen in my comment about "軌道運輸車站" below).--Howard61313 (talk) 11 May 2018 (Fri) 13:43 (UTC)
No one knows what you mean when you say "wordy and unsmooth." But I hope you face the problems that your command of English. For example, you confused the term "bus" with "automobile." I suggest you look at "Commons:Help_desk/Archive/2018/04#Do_you_think_the_bus_is_an_automobile?". Otherwise, why should I accept your opinion that what you said is right?--Kai3952 (talk) 18:14, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I want to ask another question: I noticed your edits, why do you think that the term "train station" means "車站" in Chinese? I think, the term "bus station" means "公車站" in Chinese, but the real problem is that some people also call it "車站." I hope you do "not" firmly believe that this is just my problem.--Kai3952 (talk) 23:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
The edition history you give here just shows my reason inside. In Taiwan, MRT stations (sometimes THSR stations as well) are not usually included in the term "火車站". If we both want to avoid the problem about bus, maybe the term "軌道運輸車站" used on the list "臺灣軌道運輸車站列表" of zh.wikipedia can be considered. --Howard61313 (talk) 2 May 2018 (Wed) 14:26 (UTC)
@Howard61313: I know, but you didn't say the "key point." Because you didn't answer my question. Please see clearly, my question is: Neither "車站" nor "火車站" are the best translation vocabularies. What do you think, how should the term "train station" translate in Chinese?--Kai3952 (talk) 12:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I did. One of the suggestion I provide for the term "Train Station" is "軌道運輸車站" because it is suitable for all kinds of train station in Taiwan (MRT stations, TRA stations and THSR stations). Of course, "鐵路車站" seems to be translated more literally, but the reason to keep it from my options is that the term is used for TRA stations on the list "臺灣鐵路車站列表" of zh.wikipedia.--Howard61313 (talk) 11 May 2018 (Fri) 13:40 (UTC)
Please do not understand English in a native way(means the logic used is different from that in English speakers). About the definition of the term "train station," I suggest you ask at COM:HD. But I think "train station" is synonymous to "railway station." It is not necessary to change "鐵路車站" or "軌道運輸車站."--Kai3952 (talk) 18:14, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
@Howard61313: If you have no objection, I'd like to slightly modify your current version.--Kai3952 (talk) 15:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: I just want to offer the usage of terms on zh.wikipedia. If you prefer the option of "鐵路車站", I won't stop it.--Howard61313 (talk) 16 May 2018 (Wed) 13:10 (UTC)
@Howard61313: No, what I meant to say is: Your understanding of English may be insufficient to fully express, like the native English speaker to understand in themselves. Therefore, I want to add an annotation to your edits that to explain the difference in use between Chinese and English. This is to avoid misclassification due to "translation problems". Do you understand what I say?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Fegggbgbbdfbv[edit]

Can an admin please look into this brand new user? His only action was to interfere with an administrative action here, regarding the alleged sockpuppeting of User:Solomon203. I reverted his edit, but if this edit was justified, I ask an administrator to revert back. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 10:13, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

✓  Done Obviously not here to contribute positively. Yann (talk) 10:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Yann, it is suspected, that the globally blocked User:Solomon203 is active now under IP addresses and presumably, User:Fegggbgbbdfbv was also used by him. The action carried out here, reminds me strongly to previous rename terror, carried out by him. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
CEphoto, Uwe Aranas: I checked a few edits by this IP, and I can't find anything blockable in itself. A wrong rename request is hardly a reason for a block. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Yann, I agree your opinion. It was just an observation. I will keep an eye for edits and name change requests on Taiwan-related content. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 07:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
One of the signatures of Solomon203 is, that he is applying for file name changes, requesting to append the date in the form YYYYMMDD to the file name. Is there a way to filter IP edits against name change requests? --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 07:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@Cccefalon: look at w:User talk:Solomon203 #unblock request, please. There were some doubts that Solomon203 (talk · contribs) is the Nipponese Dog from Taiwan. @Yann: the edit may be vandalism but may be good-faith, depending on identity of Solomon203. Can any sock buster understanding Chinese elucidate this? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 07:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I am not in the position, to judge about the identities. I got just aware, that well known schemes of name change requests for Taiwanese images show up. Doubtless, the edits of the IP in question show a general good understanding, how to handle images and a bulk of them can be considered to be useful, e.g. adding Chinese language description. From that, I only urge to keep an eye open. The question, if banned users are now contributing with IP numbers and what do is certainly beyond my tasks as a simple user. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 08:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

First, edit warring in user:Solomon203 (histlogsabuse log) is something beyond usual provocations by LTA. Second, I can’t discern usual Nipponese Dog’s patterns—slur, Peter Huang, shouting, combativeness—in Solomon203’s editing record which is rather long. Third, the Nipponese Dog (or Jason Lin) uses photo cameras of decent quality, such as Sony G3125 with pixel size 5984 × 3376 (examples) or Sony D6503 with pixel size 3840 × 2160 (example). Solomon203 used SONY DSC-WX7 and resolution of his photos does not matches Nipponese Dog’s. @Wildcursive, Donald Trung, B dash: your opinions on the case? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:47, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I haven't personally gone over Solomon203's contributions but I heard that this user send a photograph of himself to the local Wikimedia chapter in the Republic of China, if this is in fact someone other than Jason Lin they could confirm so in person, Peter Huang is a pretty big personality and advocate so it's possible that others might be interested in him, I'm not that familiar with how the Nipponese Dog (Lin Jason) operates other than his obsessive behaviour towards covering and promoting human rights advocates, from what I can tell about Solomon203's uploads he seems to prefer cosplay conventions and makes rather good content. I don't really have an opinion on if he's Mr. Lin or not and hope that the Taiwan Province chapter of the WMF will confirm whether or not he is in fact someone else. Though I must state that It's suspicious that Jason Lin keeps removing the photograph I placed at that Wikimedia employee's talk page after he stated that he doesn't know how Jason Lin looks, although it's also possible that Mr. Jason Lin prefers to remain private in other respects, I'm not familiar with their psychology. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not familiar with this case. --B dash (talk) 09:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I off-wiki contacted Steinsplitter who initiated the action against Solomon203 on en.Wikipedia. He explicitly refused to comment further. Now questioning a Japanese-Wikipedia admin. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:13, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Oops… it turned out that the “Japanese-Wikipedia admin” is indefblocked in the home wiki two months ago and hence hasn’t community trust anymore. My query, predictably, lies without an answer either. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Wildcursive: explain Revision of User:Solomon203 please. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: Thanks for reminding me about the discussion. I have been edited Wikimedia projects for more than 10 years and had dealt with both zh:WP:KAGE/en:WP:LTA/KAGE and zh:User:Solomon203. Their main political positions are basically opposite and thus differ on articles they paid attention to or editors they focused on. The ways or types they involve vandalism are quite different. At least in zhwiki & the commons, I, along with several administrators and senior editors, know they are 2 persons. It's totally impossible they become one person in other Wikimedia projects. They may have occasionally edited through similar ip addresses but it's not that unique in Taiwan among some other countries. Attributing vandalism by other abusers to zh:WP:KAGE is unfair and can do more harm than good. It's neither accurate nor necessary and unhelpful to prevent further problems. My knowledge or impression concerning them came from long-time observation & interaction. I also know their recent interests & activities and thus can assert the mentioned category was definitely a wrong identification.--Wildcursive (talk) 06:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Commons User[edit]

Commons User (talk · contribs) — is this username acceptable? -- Tuválkin 00:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Why not? Not a great username, but in my opinion acceptable. Taivo (talk) 12:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Looks like something of a default name, like "MyAccount" or "this.User". Misleading and confuse, at least. -- Tuválkin 15:20, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Also problematic for attribution. "CC-BY-SA 4.0 image by Commons User from Wikimedia Commons" - eh? - Alexis Jazz 19:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Blocked for having a problematic username, left a note encouraging the user to select another username to be renamed to. Alexis Jazz has a fair point, people unfamiliar (even those who are familiar) may just assume this is a generic attribution, instead of a specific user. Should choose another username to avoid any such issues. Jon Kolbert (talk) 19:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Technically, it should be blocked under "Promotional username", just as "Company name user" would be. Implies shared use and promotes a website/company (this one, but still...). --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 04:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Not really. That would possibly be true on Wikipedia, but it much less true here. See half the text on Commons talk:Username policy discussing role accounts, see also COM:Role accounts. As long as the actual user is an individual and is not making a misleading statement of representation, I think it would be fine. To me, "promotional" means blatant advertising in this context ("User:Tito's Garage 1800-BUYMYTIRES" or something), not just mentioning a name, or we have lots of longstanding GLAM accounts that need blocking. Storkk (talk) 07:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Or indeed, the tens of thousands of ~commonswiki accounts left over from the great SUL-ification. Storkk (talk) 08:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @Storkk: that didn't save Aegon Communications (talk · contribs). I do agree with you when it comes to role accounts btw, as long as they don't misbehave I see no reason to force such accounts to change their name or block them. If they do misbehave (and blame someone else they share the account with) it makes sense though. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:43, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • (Edit conflict) If you claim to represent an entity, that requires OTRS confirmation and always has. Do you see no difference between claiming to be (and obviously actually being) a "Commons User" and claiming to represent Aegon Communications? Storkk (talk) 08:48, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • I asked Aegon Communications to do that as that was needed anyway because the only purpose of that account appears to have been to upload some photos of people on the Aegon management board. But that was not the reason they were blocked. Aegon Communications was not told go to OTRS, they were told to change their username. I can only assume User:Elcobbola was enforcing the policy at w:Wikipedia:Username policy#Shared accounts. (do we have the same policy?) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 09:30, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @Alexis Jazz: Your assumption is incorrect; please read critically. Aegon Communications was told "Your username has been blocked as being inappropriate. Please see our username policy for more information," with that policy linked. That policy (COM:UPOL) says: "Use of the names of 'organizations' is prohibited unless you provide evidence that you are or represent the respective organization [...] If you want to verify your account (in case you represent an organization or you are a well known person), use an official e-mail account (if available) to send an e-mail to info-commons-at-wikimedia.org, stating that the account in question belongs to you or the organization you represent." Эlcobbola talk 13:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • I've updated the template. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Glay Liou[edit]

Glay Liou is obviously a sock of Kagemusha, or known as Nipponese Dog Calvero in Commons, why this account is not indefinitely blocked yet? --219.79.126.110 04:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

@219.79.126.110: discover global locks. Did you never have your account locked? You might have flourished in the old ages (before 2012) then. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 07:38, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
✓  Done , globally locked. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 09:09, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Richardw[edit]

Look at [10], [11], and [12]. User:Richardw likes to argue with other users. Because I think I have fulfilled his request, he still continues to bother me. I hope administrators will take appropriate actions.--Kai3952 (talk) 17:11, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

  Not done . In his last reply, he promised to stop. Let's hope that. Taivo (talk) 07:12, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
I simply made a suggestion (you might want to) and the first reply started with "Are you OK?" and ended with Please do not bother me. That should have been a warning sign, but I tried to explain why I made the suggestion in the first place, and that was replied to in a manner that suggested discussing the topic would be possible. Alas, my next reaction was met with a (in my view) rather hostile answer. And now I'm accused of being unreasonable and turning a discussion into an argument? Never mind, I said would leave you alone. Richard 10:56, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
@Taivo, Richardw: The reason I think he is unreasonable, is that he insist on deleting this file: "File:中國大理38.jpg". I have submitted it to delete. See: "Commons:Deletion requests/File:中國大理38.jpg". Now, I hope it can be solved peacefully. I will report him if he continues.--Kai3952 (talk) 15:47, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Copyleft username[edit]

Copyleft (talk · contribs)

This could result in attribution like "CC-BY-SA, Copyleft from Commons". Something like "Copyleft lover" would be more clear, but that's up to Copyleft. (the user, not the concept) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 12:02, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

So? Storkk (talk) 12:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
See Commons User above. Similar case. If nobody but me thinks this could be confusing when attributing, it's okay. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 13:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Potential confusion when attributing was mentioned (by you), but was not the reason that user was blocked. They were blocked for some combination of the third criterion in our user name policy and a slight possibility of someone being confused on Commons per Tuvalkin, and it was a very marginal call at that IMO. If you uploaded a Beethoven sonata, should we block you because someone might get confused that Beethoven wrote Jazz? I don't see how this is anything other than patronizing silliness. People can ask to be attributed how they want, within reason, and if it might be slightly confusing to someone, that's a risk the artist is (presumably knowingly) taking. Storkk (talk) 13:38, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Nope... I see that Jon Kolbert did indeed mention your objection specifically on User talk:Commons User. My mistake. This is still devolving into extreme silliness, IMO. And I don't think it was the best of blocks. Storkk (talk) 13:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
I am not screaming for the user to be blocked or anything, just bringing a similar case to the attention of administrators when I find one. What administrators do with that is not up to me and if this report results in no action I won't report similar cases in the future. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

 

Not done no violation of Commons:Username_policy identified. Storkk (talk) 14:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Seriously bad call, Storkk. "User:Copyleft" is a textbook example of an unsuitable Wikimedia Commons user name. -- Tuválkin 14:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
    • I'm sorry you feel that way, but calling something a textbook example doesn't make it so. This username isn't promotional, any more than "Freedom" or "Coffee" would be; it's obviously not disruptive; it's does not give the impression that the account has authority it does not have; and it's not offensive (except perhaps to Steve Ballmer). It doesn't fall under the "Confusing usernames" examples either, which (again, please actually look at the examples for elucidation) are intended to avoid things like impersonation ("Tuva1kin") or users like "Dasdpoieqdmcoiaq". Nor would it seem to be confusing for the all-purpose "other reasons": it's hard to imagine anybody who is not being willfully obtuse being at serious risk of confusion, and in any case the only potential harm so far cited would be to Copyleft himself for being wrongly cited. If Copyleft believes this is a real risk, he can request a rename (and indeed, being a sysop on fr.wikiquote, he probably knows the procedures). But so far nothing remotely requiring a block (i.e. stuff that has the potential to harm Commons or re-users) has been suggested, nor has anybody inquired at User talk:Copyleft whether they believe this risk to their intellectual property is real. Storkk (talk) 14:16, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Davey2010[edit]


User:MikeZah[edit]

The user reloads the photo without permission. This should be stopped urgently. On deletion request does not give an answer. --Микола Василечко (talk) 05:09, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

✓  Done Final warning given. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 09:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)