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Neuchâtel Herbarium (talk · contribs)

Operator: Chandres (talk · contributions · Number of edits · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)

Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Upload of the pictures created by the commons:Neuchâtel Herbarium project

Automatic or manually assisted: semi automatic, I launch the script manually for a fixed number of picture to upload , but once it's started the process is automatic

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run):around 40 000 pictures remain to be upload, by batch when I'm available to control the upload process, no full automatic work

Maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute):4-5 upload per minute

Bot flag requested: Y:

Programming language(s):

Chandres (talk) 14:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

It might be a good idea to respect the capitalisation of the categories. So far, I renamed the categories of the majority of your uploads. --Foroa (talk) 14:56, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning , we update the script and I will correct the already upload pictures.--Chandres (talk) 15:01, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
I think will be good idea to use Bot in account name. Why Template:Information is not used? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
It's not really a bot account, it's always me behind, but used with a script. --Chandres (talk) 18:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, using [[tl|Specimen}} is probably some sub-project policy which we could argue against until we are blue in the face... The sourcecode of the description page is formatted in a very confusing way. It took me 3 minutes to figure out where the closing template braces are and to realize that {{Information field}} is uses within the description field. This needs to be made clearer. --Dschwen (talk) 16:26, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 {{Specimen
 |taxon=Abies alba
 |authority=
 |institution={{Institution:University of Neuchâtel}}
 |description=
 {{en|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:en:Abies alba]]''}}
 {{de|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:de:Abies alba]]''}}
 {{fr|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:fr:Abies alba]]''}}
 {{it|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:it:Abies alba]]''}}
 |date=
 |source={{own}}
 |author=[[User:Neuchâtel Herbarium|Neuchâtel Herbarium]]
 |permission=
 |other_versions=
 |other_fields={{Information field|name={{Occupation|1=Botanist}}|value=?}}
 }}
Actually it is a minor miracle that the old version doesn't produce invalid HTML. If you want to use {{Information field}} please add it to the other_fields parameter. --Dschwen (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Is this being adressed? --Dschwen (talk) 17:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, if , see below :-)--Chandres (talk) 18:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Do we need the "description" ? It seems redundant with other parameters. I have proposed an alternate layout at File:Neuchâtel Herbarium - Abies alba - NEU000003665.tif. --Zolo (talk) 20:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
The actual description field is important for the project by the providing the links to the wikipedia articles in several language, especially the swiss one. But if anybody has ideas on how improving this information part, I will be more than happy! --Chandres (talk) 08:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
You mean, in this case, the link to en:Abies alba. There is a link to the corresponding category in the header. I would also prefer a link to Wikipedia, but we should be able to have that once wikidata: is deployed to Commons (hopefully, in a few months). Personnally, I find it unintuitive and rather confusing to have two different links just a few lines away from each other, without clear rationale why one links to Wikipedia and the other to Commons. --Zolo (talk) 05:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
I find that the link the the commons category give less information than a link to the wikipedia article, but maybe we could improve the wording of the description to be more explicit. The idea of having the link to wikipedia article is "reader oriented", whereas commons category is really "wikimedian oriented". I don't want to wait for Wikidata deployment, we never what will happend, and we can always run a bot to correct that afterwards. --Chandres (talk) 18:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

The addition of "dried pressed specimen" is ok in english, but would complicated ,without benefice, the script in other language. I will control after upload if all description are present.--Chandres (talk) 06:51, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

  • I don't completely understand your answer. Do you mean that you do not know the translation for "dried pressed specimen" in the languages you plan to use, or do you mean that it would be hard to add the words to each language? (Sorry for the slow reply) --99of9 (talk) 13:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
sorry for the slower reply :-D In french italian and german, we struggled to find a sentence that do not change according to the first letter of the species. But we managed and now we found a good alternative: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Neuch%C3%A2tel_Herbarium_-_Isoetes_lacustris_-_NEU000020015.tif --Chandres (talk) 11:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
That looks good to me! --99of9 (talk) 13:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

For the record the actual template is the following, any improvement is welcome:

=={{int:filedesc}}==

{{Specimen
|taxon=<TMPL_VAR NAME=GENIUS> <TMPL_VAR NAME=SPECIE>
|authority=
|institution={{Institution:University of Neuchâtel}}
|description=
<TMPL_IF NAME=IWEN>{{en|1=Dried pressed specimen of ''[[:en:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWEN>]]''}}</TMPL_IF>
<TMPL_IF NAME=IWDE>{{de|1=Getrocknete und gepresste Einzelprobe aus ''[[:de:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWDE>]]''}}</TMPL_IF>
<TMPL_IF NAME=IWFR>{{fr|1=Spécimen de plante séchée et pressée de l'espèce ''[[:fr:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWFR>]]''}}</TMPL_IF>
<TMPL_IF NAME=IWIT>{{it|1=Esemplare di pianta essiccata e pressata della specie ''[[:it:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWIT>]]''}}</TMPL_IF>

|date=<TMPL_VAR NAME=DATE>
|source={{own}}
|author=[[User:Neuchâtel Herbarium|Neuchâtel Herbarium]]
|permission=
|other_versions=
|other_fields= {{Information field
|name={{Occupation|1=Botanist}}|value=?}}
}}


{{Neuchâtel Herbarium}}

=={{int:license-header}}==
{{self|cc-by-sa-3.0}}


[[Category:<TMPL_VAR NAME=GENIUS_UCFIRST> <TMPL_VAR NAME=SPECIE>]]

--Chandres (talk) 07:33, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Is the botanist known for any of your items? The ones I've randomly checked have all been "?". If they're nearly all unknown, I'd suggest leaving that field out for those where the botanist is unknown. --99of9 (talk) 10:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
  • we will fill this parameter afterwards, it's part of another project. --Chandres (talk) 09:03, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Categories

Please don't create thousands of red and/or invalid categories. I'v put some in Category:Neuchâtel Herbarium Project categories to be classified for further correction/classification. --Foroa (talk) 09:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I'm aware of this, and it's planned to fix all the categories at once per batch. At the origin the ""XX (herbarium specimen)" was not planned, but because people start to change the categorization without coordination herbarium sheet, herbarium, herbarium specimen, etc, we move to a standard categorization that will assure the coherency, but for that we need to create first the red categories.--Chandres (talk) 09:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

If there are no further issues, I suggest that we approve this task. --99of9 (talk) 03:36, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Approved --99of9 (talk) 00:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)