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Category:Canadair water bombers[edit]

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There are only two type of Canadair water bombers (CL-215 and CL-415) and parent Category:Firefighting aircraft is not especially crowded. Ariadacapo (talk) 20:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I think the consensus arrived at during the previous discussion was clear. There are multiple kinds of firefighting aircraft:
  1. "bird-dog" aircraft guide waterbombers to the best part of the fire to drop their load;
  2. waterbombers;
  3. helicopters that dip a bucket into bodies of water
What possible value would there be in collapsing the hierarchy agreed to in the earlier discussion? Geo Swan (talk) 19:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
In an effort to keep the discussion centralized I have copied your message, and replied, over at Commons:Categories for discussion/2009/12/Category:Air tanker. Ariadacapo (talk) 08:43, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I see no justification for the existence of category Canadair water bombers. Water bombers is ambiguous, since CL-215 and CL-415 have capability to mix and drop slurries (mixtures of water with other materials), as used by most other fluid-carrying firefighting aircraft. There are not equivalent categories such as Canadair trainers, Canadair fighters or Canadair anything else. The CL-415 is a variant of the CL-215, so should be a sub-cat of that. There's also an intermediate problematic variant, CL-215 converted with turbine engines, visually like CL-415 but not to full CL-415 standard.PeterWD (talk) 09:39, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The CL-415 was derived from the CL-215 but is distinct enough to not be a sub-category. The same applies to B747-100, -200, -400 etc, and in that mindset, B737 could be a derivative of B707 and so on.
As for the rest of the debate (including this very category), I do not mind. As long as the path to finding a photo is obvious for the average Wikipedia editor, I am fine with whatever nomenclature choices are made. Ariadacapo (talk) 09:52, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Conclusion: This category fits within the scheme described at the CfD for "Firefighting aircraft". Kept as such. Ariadacapo (talk) 11:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)