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Brachypelma auratum[edit]

   
Brachypelma smithi 2009 G03.jpg
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Nominated by:
George Chernilevsky (talk) on 2009-09-09 15:01 (UTC)
Scope:
Brachypelma auratum
Used in:
de:Brachypelma auratum, de:Vogelspinnen, nl:Gevlamde roodknievogelspin, pl:Brachypelma auratum, pt:Brachypelma auratum
Reason:
Very rare spider. It is protected by the law (catching in the nature is forbidden). Photo in good quality, (QI and FI) probally best in category. Only my uploads in scope showing this animal. -- George Chernilevsky (talk)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Actually, you've made yourself a multiple strong competitor. It's really hard to choose one of those almost identical images as the best one - "Weniger wäre mehr gewesen."  :-) But if I am to choose a single picture, I'd rather go with File:Brachypelma auratum 2009 G09.jpg - same sharpness, but better colors and you can see more of the spider's front. -- H005 (talk) 18:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  • In my opinion this nomination is better, because softer contrast better shows details (and this show voting result in FP nominations) --George Chernilevsky (talk) 18:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - Cute spider. However, not geocoded. --Rastaman3000 (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Geocode are not relevant. In rules: Exceptions include: studio and other non-place-related shots. It is in description. --George Chernilevsky (talk) 04:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support - indeed, this is a studio-shot. In my opinion this image is better than the second one. Rastaman3000 (talk) 17:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Scores: 
1. Brachypelma auratum 2009 G03.jpg: 0 (withdrawn)
2. Brachypelma auratum 2009 G09.jpg: +3
=>
File:Brachypelma auratum 2009 G03.jpg: Declined.
File:Brachypelma auratum 2009 G09.jpg: Promoted.
--Eusebius (talk) 07:53, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Brachypelma smithi 2009 G09.jpg
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Nominated by:
H005 (talk) on 2009-09-10 16:12 (UTC)
Scope:
Brachypelma auratum
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - Cute spider. However, not geocoded. --Rastaman3000 (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2009 (UTC) - Second image is better IMO --Rastaman3000 (talk) 17:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Geocode are not relevant. In rules: Exceptions include: studio and other non-place-related shots. It is in description. --George Chernilevsky (talk) 04:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I follow H005. Lycaon (talk) 17:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I prefere this shot, because the head is better visible --Cesco77 (talk) 09:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support As above; also shows both pedipalps well. Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:59, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support and thank to all -- George Chernilevsky talk 16:55, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. Brachypelma auratum 2009 G03.jpg: 0 (withdrawn)
2. Brachypelma auratum 2009 G09.jpg: +3
=>
File:Brachypelma auratum 2009 G03.jpg: Declined.
File:Brachypelma auratum 2009 G09.jpg: Promoted.
--Eusebius (talk) 07:53, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Declined - Wrong ID -- George Chernilevsky talk 12:18, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
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Basiliscus plumifrons (Plumed basilisk)[edit]

   
Basiliscus plumifrons (Caño Negro).jpg
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Nominated by:
Lycaon (talk) on 2009-09-16 12:34 (UTC)
Scope:
Basiliscus plumifrons (Plumed basilisk)
Used in:
en:Plumed basilisk, es:Basiliscus plumifrons nl:Groene basilisk
Reason:
Shows the whole animal in ts natural environment (here at Caño Negro in Costa Rica). -- Lycaon (talk)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Meet all criteria for a VI, tail not damaged --George Chernilevsky (talk) 11:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I agree with Lycaon and Chernilevsky --Cesco77 (talk) 09:11, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. Basiliscus plumifrons (Caño Negro).jpg: +2
2. Basiliscus plumifrons (Costa Rica).jpg: 0
=>
File:Basiliscus plumifrons (Caño Negro).jpg: Promoted.
File:Basiliscus plumifrons (Costa Rica).jpg: Declined.
--Eusebius (talk) 07:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Basiliscus plumifrons (Costa Rica).jpg
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Nominated by:
H005 (talk) on 2009-09-16 17:02 (UTC)
Scope:
Basiliscus plumifrons (Plumed basilisk)
Reason:
IMHO this picture shows the animal in more detail and illustrates its mimicry capabiliies. Just the cropped tail is a pity. -- H005 (talk)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment You may be correct. I didn't nominate this image because of the regenerating tail. The picture was taken on the banks of the river Puerto Viejo. Lycaon (talk) 19:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
  • I agree with Lycaon damaged tail prevent me to support. So I Symbol oppose vote.svg weak oppose. It is very nice and very rare photo, but it is not the most illustrative in scope, because non-damaged animal showing other variant --George Chernilevsky (talk) 11:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I disagree. Regrowing its tail is a special capability of some lizards, and not something any animal can do. So if a photo shows the basilisk doing that, it gains value, rather than losing it. -- JovanCormac 07:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. Basiliscus plumifrons (Caño Negro).jpg: +2
2. Basiliscus plumifrons (Costa Rica).jpg: 0
=>
File:Basiliscus plumifrons (Caño Negro).jpg: Promoted.
File:Basiliscus plumifrons (Costa Rica).jpg: Declined.
--Eusebius (talk) 07:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Macaron[edit]

   
Macaron 1.jpg
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Nominated by:
Myrabella (talk) on 2009-09-21 06:29 (UTC)
Scope:
Macaron
Used in:
en:Macaron; fr:Macaron; ja:マカロン; zh:杏仁小圓餅; ko:마카롱; io:Makarono; fr:b:Livre_de_cuisine/Desserts/Macarons_Parisiens
Reason:
An image illustrating the "structure" of this pastry (two thin cookies and a cream between them) which may exist in various savours, and colours. -- Myrabella (talk)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Sorry, but I simply cannot believe that a macaron of this color has ever been served anywhere. It looks disgusting! Also, geocoding seems nonsensical here. -- JovanCormac 15:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Yes, it exists, its flavour is “Huile d’Olive & Vanille”, you can read a report in English on this blog (if you aren't too disgusted) and I may admit it is ultra snobish... --Myrabella (talk) 16:06, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
      • Ok, you convinced me. It's hard to believe what people eat these days. I was sure that the specimen in the candidate picture was simply an "uncolored" one, not ready for consumption. But from the blog post you mentioned, it becomes clear that that is not the case, so I change my vote to Symbol support vote.svg 'Support'. -- JovanCormac 05:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. Macaron 1.jpg: +1
2. Macarons 001.jpg: +1
=>
File:Macaron 1.jpg: Undecided.
File:Macarons 001.jpg: Undecided.
--Eusebius (talk) 08:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Macarons 001.jpg
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Nominated by:
H005 Sexy Mouth transparent.png on 2009-09-25 05:51 (UTC)
Scope:
Macaron
Reason:
I prefer this image over the other one because it shows that macarons are made in many different colours, not just green. -- H005 Sexy Mouth transparent.png

Symbol support vote.svg Support I agree with H005, some colour variants is far more illustrative -- George Chernilevsky (talk) 13:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Pictogram-voting-question.svg Question This is an interesting debate. For such a topic, must we choose a singular piece or a pack ilustrating the diversity? In the different wikipedias, the article about "Macaron" begins by the definition of the item itself, as a singular piece. For exemple, in :en:w, "the macaron is a traditional French pastry, made of egg whites, almond powder, icing sugar and sugar."; in :nl:w : "Een bitterkoekje is een koekje dat bestaat uit een mengsel van gemalen bittere amandelen, kristalsuiker en eiwit."; in :fr.w: "Le macaron est un petit gâteau, etc.". It is why I incline to think that an image showing a lonely piece would be more valuable to illustrate the scope. --Myrabella (talk) 17:05, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. Macaron 1.jpg: +1
2. Macarons 001.jpg: +1
=>
File:Macaron 1.jpg: Undecided.
File:Macarons 001.jpg: Undecided.
--Eusebius (talk) 08:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Spiral staircase in the Vatican Museums[edit]

   
Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg
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Nominated by:
NormanB (talk) on 2009-09-15 12:19 (UTC)
Scope:
Spiral staircase in the Vatican Museums
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Even if the scope was acceptable (perhaps too narrow), File:VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg would be a strong competitor. --Myrabella (talk) 14:44, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram-voting-question.svg Question Would 'Stairs in the Vatican Museums' be a better scope?. -- NormanB (talk) 10:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment In fact, VI rules for buildings scopes don't offer so much possibilities for buildings - or parts of building. They say: "The building scope can be divided in a "XXX (exterior)" scope and a "XXX (interior)" scope". But they precise: "Additional scopes can exceptionally be proposed if some part of the building is particularly worth of interest". I think one can consider it's the case here. So let's keep the original scope. Within this scope, File:VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg is better, IMO. Note: There is another spiral staircase in the Vatican Museums, the Bramante's one. It looks like that. I wasn't able to find any image of it in Commons (but I found some false attributions, e.g. in :fr:w...), . If you had a picture of it in your collection, it would be very valuable. --Myrabella (talk) 06:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
    • I wish I had a picture of Bramantes stairs! I also noticed the lack of pictures of it on Commons. --NormanB (talk) 00:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Fails criterion 1 (“Is the most valuable illustration of its kind on Wikimedia Commons”) IMO, see comment above.--Myrabella (talk) 06:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting info.svg Info On request I have uploaded an alternative version, which is more cropped. -- NormanB (talk) 00:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Please set up an MVR. Lycaon (talk) 05:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting info.svg Info MVR set-up as requested. -- NormanB (talk) 12:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting question-blue.svg Request May you add the third image in competition, File:VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg? Thanks, --Myrabella (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Already ✓ Done. -- H005 (talk) 12:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Both other proposals are superior IMHO, although it's hard to say which of the other two is best. -- H005 (talk) 12:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg: -2
2. Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673 v2 cropped.jpg: 0
3. VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg: +3
=>
File:Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg: Declined.
File:Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673 v2 cropped.jpg: Declined.
File:VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg: Promoted.
--Eusebius (talk) 08:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673 v2 cropped.jpg
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Nominated by:
NormanB (talk) on 2009-09-18 12:02 (UTC)
Scope:
Spiral staircase in the Vatican Museums
Reason:
Alternative version to Commons:Valued image candidates/Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg -- NormanB (talk)

Scores:

1. Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg: -2
2. Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673 v2 cropped.jpg: 0
3. VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg: +3
=>
File:Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg: Declined.
File:Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673 v2 cropped.jpg: Declined.
File:VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg: Promoted.
--Eusebius (talk) 08:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg
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Nominated by:
H005 (talk) on 2009-09-18 12:26 (UTC)
Scope:
Spiral staircase in the Vatican Museums
Used in:
Various Wikipedia articles in almost 50(!) languages.
Reason:
All three images are very similar, really hard to pick one, but I want to throw this one into MVR too. It has less sharpness and more nosie, but otherwise the landscape crop (IMHO) looks better, the light is better and there are fewer people. -- H005 (talk) -- H005 (talk)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I think this one is better. Yann (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Me too, for two reasons: 1) its composition highlights the fact that it's a double spiral staircase: one can verify it following the handrails (more cropped in others images). 2) I find this compostion more harmonious, in line with the curves and volutes still used in art and architecture in that period. --Myrabella (talk) 14:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I agree --Cesco77 (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg: -2
2. Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673 v2 cropped.jpg: 0
3. VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg: +3
=>
File:Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673.jpg: Declined.
File:Rome - Vatican Museum - Spiral Staircase by Giuseppe Momo - 0673 v2 cropped.jpg: Declined.
File:VaticanMuseumStaircase.jpg: Promoted.
--Eusebius (talk) 08:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Mohandas K. Gandhi[edit]

   
Portrait Gandhi.jpg
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Nominated by:
Yann (talk) on 2009-10-02 23:23 (UTC)
Scope:
Mohandas K. Gandhi
Reason:
Best portrait we have, IMO. Location is unknown, so geocoding is irrelevant. Yann (talk) 23:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC) -- Yann (talk)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, as promised. Airwolf (talk) 23:46, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support It is better variant for me -- George Chernilevsky talk 06:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I prefer this one too. --Myrabella (talk) 09:58, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. MKGandhi.jpg: +3
2. Gandhi spinning.jpg: 0 
=>
File:MKGandhi.jpg: Promoted.
File:Gandhi spinning.jpg: Declined.
--Eusebius (talk) 08:07, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Gandhi spinning.jpg
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Nominated by:
Yann (talk) on 2009-10-02 11:56 (UTC)
Scope:
Mohandas K. Gandhi
Reason:
We don't have a high quality portrait of Gandhi. So I thought that this image showing Gandhi spinning might very well be the most valued picture of Gandhi. The other alternative would be [1], but is not free for a very long time. Location is unknown, so geocoding is irrelevant. -- Yann (talk)
  • Pictogram-voting-question.svg Question And how about File:Gandhi Juhu May1944.jpg? Airwolf (talk) 12:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
    • He has a harsh look here, and the size is rather small. Yann (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
      • Size should not be an issue. The criteria say: The image must look good on-screen at the review size [...] Its usability in printed format is not considered. Airwolf (talk) 13:00, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
        • Well OK, but I don't like his look here. If I were to choose a portrait among what we have, I would take File:MKGandhi.jpg. Yann (talk) 13:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
          • I like this one, I'd support it as a VIC for this scope. Airwolf (talk) 18:20, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Moved to MVR. Yann (talk) 23:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Scores: 
1. MKGandhi.jpg: +3
2. Gandhi spinning.jpg: 0 
=>
File:MKGandhi.jpg: Promoted.
File:Gandhi spinning.jpg: Declined.
--Eusebius (talk) 08:07, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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