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File:Pac-Man Cutscene.svg[edit]

Pac-Man ghost is a copyrighted character. (Fair use in en) --Kungfuman (talk) 16:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC) Kungfuman (talk) 18:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pac-Man ghost is a copyrighted character. (Fair use in en) --Kungfuman (talk) 16:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Changing speedy deletion to deletion request. Diego Moya (talk) 09:49, 20 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Characters cannot be copyrighted. The image is not used in a commercial context and thus neither a trademark infringement. Diego Moya (talk) 09:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
First that's not a qualified legal page. The Pac-Man character itself is not the problem (simple shaped), but the ghost. That's derivative of a copyrighted character. And all common files need to be usuable for commercial purposes. We don't have CC-BY-NC. --Kungfuman (talk) 09:59, 2 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is there evidence that the character is copyrighted and not just trademarked? (Also read Trademark#Non-copyright_restrictions "However, non-copyright related restrictions are not considered relevant to the freedom requirements of Commons or by Wikimedia"). Diego Moya (talk) 11:09, 2 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The game (and all content) is copyrighted. This is a derivative work very similar like the Fair use screenshot [1] . See also COM:Fan_art#Re-drawing_does_not_avoid_copyright_infringement And Pac-Man is a franchise selling toys and such things of those characters. Copyrighted and trademarked like all other video game characters, screenshots or parts of them (except a very simple shaped Pac Man pie, Pokeball and similar). You can't compare this to the apple image. --Kungfuman (talk) 12:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have asked for evidence that the character is copyrighted. Do you have it? I'm not comparing anything to apples. Commons:Fan_art#Re-drawing_does_not_avoid_copyright_infringement doesn't say anything about video-game characters, and trademark is not relevant at all as it wouldn't forbid this image from being at Commons. Diego Moya (talk) 07:17, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As I told before, this commercial videogame and all content is copyrighted c) and R) by namco (read the manual of any game and please check the namco website and their shop/pacman brand). YOU need a proof that this character is free and may be commercially used by anyone else as mandatory on commons. You linked the commons trademark page which includes the apple trademark and the photo of a real apple. This has nothing to do with trademarks. Even if the character wouldn't be copyrighted, this image is a derivative work of a screenshot of that game which is also copyrighted. And it's a franchise like all other action figures and toys, too. Please read COM:DW. I won't to discuss this any further, an admin will decide this. This is obviously not free content. Why do you need this image? There are enough Pacman images and possibility of Fair use. Your argument "I created this image myself from memory" means you have seen the game and created either a derivative work or a (too close) fan art. You obviously don't know anything about free contents and proper licenses. You also removed and reverted my copyvio tag and even didn't made an entry at the deletion page properly, so nobody find this. --Kungfuman (talk) 18:51, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment: Actually, I think this may be {{PD-ineligible}}. (Maybe the ghost could be made a bit simpler, e.g. just a nub shape with two dots and a line for a mouth.) Best Western's logo is about as complex as this and has been rejected for copyright protection. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:59, 10 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Already deleted under this name Pac-Man cutscene.svg And the other ghosts had also been deleted PacMan Ghosts.png --Kungfuman (talk) 11:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The 'ineligible' argument brought by King of Hearts wasn't raised at those discussions. I think it has merit. Diego Moya (talk) 15:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment The vector ghost in this file isn't an accurate rendition of the pixel version: compare the distance between the eyes and the curvature of the top. -- Trevj (talk) 07:48, 29 June 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Doesn't mind. If it's not accurate it's derivative. And again I'm not talking about Pac-Man but the ghost only. --Kungfuman (talk) 11:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Does the pixel version meet the threshold of originality? In any case, it seems to me that {{PD-ineligible}} applies, as suggested by King of Hearts. -- Trevj (talk) 10:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kept: Apparently does not meet the threshold of originality FASTILY (TALK) 01:42, 6 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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