# Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop

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## Illustration workshop

This workshop is part of the Graphics Lab, a project aimed at picture retouching to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. More information about the lab can be found on its main page and requests pages (Illustrations ; Photographs ; Maps ; Video and Sound). To ask questions or make a suggestions, see the talk page of the graphic lab page.

This specific page is the requests page for the Illustration Workshop. Anyone can make a request for an illustration to be created or improved. The standard format for making a request is shown below, along with general advice, and should be followed.

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## Wikipedia logo in cheatsheets

PDFs
SVGs
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Request: The wikipedia logo within all these cheatsheets render the term `वि` in the extreme left of the wikiglobe incorrectly. Specifically, the ि should appear before व with the dotted circle being replaced by the latter. The correct rendering can be seen at File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg. Odder was kind enough to help me over IRC and try to fix File:Cheatsheet-en.svg, and it's png thumbnail renders correctly. But W3C validation (I'm not sure I did it right) seems to suggest that there may be errors which cause the svg to render incorrectly. (It seems to render incorrectly for me across three browsers and inkscape).

Also, the original reason which led me to find this error was the need to translate the cheatsheet into hi. I only know enough svg to translate text in it. I can't fix (or change) the logo. Would someone please upload a version of the en cheatsheet replacing the logo with the hi logo with a correct rendering? I'd then be able to translate the text and upload a new version. Thanks a lot.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 01:49, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Note:File:Cheatsheet-en.svg seems to be rendering correctly (despite the validation errors). Also, most of the cheatsheets are probably using the old logos. Updating them to use the new svg globe should probably fix the problem.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 10:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
URL http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http:%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fe%2Fe3%2FCheatsheet-en.svg&ss=1 reveals no validation errors... AnonMoos (talk) 13:20, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
My observations are that in the SVG cheatsheets all the text is outlined so is no longer text editable. The other thing is that I couldn't get them to render properly in Illustrator. The globe in the cheatsheet wouldn't render at all even though the globe in the standalone V2 globe rendered perfectly. The PDFs (at least the English one anyway) seem to have been put together in InDesign so the text is editable in Illustrator, but whoever created it used a raster image for the globe.

All in all though I believe the problem is that the main bulk of the cheatsheet has been put together in Inkscape then the globe has been pasted into it. It's at this point I think things have gone wrong and Inkscape has created a non-conforming SVG (no doubt thanks to the Sodipodi code inside it. Considering all the problems I believe that the cheatsheet needs to be either created from scratch in Inkscape by someone who knows what they are doing, or in Illustrator 15.1 which creates much more standard code (and 50% of the size of the Inkscape code too). --Fred the Oyster (talk) 09:21, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that whether a file opens in Adobe Illustrator is the arbiter of SVG correctness, and Adobe Illustrator can have its own problems of placing huge amounts of garbage in SVG files. However, try the latest version of File:Cheatsheet-en.svg. If there's a major problem with the file, it's that each separate letter is put into its own <tspan>...</tspan> element. By the way, the small Wikimedia logo at bottom left is an embedded raster image... AnonMoos (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Versions of Illustrator prior to the current v15.1 did put an unnecessary amount of code in the SVG, especially if the file was tagged to remain editable in AI, but even so there's still nowhere near the amount of bloat that Inkscape creates. In any case, I wasn't using AI as the final arbiter of whether the file was coded correctly, I used the W3C validator. Having said that though, if an SVG can't be opened in AI, then there's going to be every likelihood that something is wrong with the file.
The fact remains though that these files would be better being re-done from scratch regardless of what software is being used. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 17:06, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but that's simply not the case. It's true that Inkscape can carry along a bunch of useless definitions of gradients and such from previous file versions if not purged, but Adobe Illustrator often overwhelms a tiny amount of code with a huge amount of useless garbage, as I've seen repeatedly over the last 5 years or more, from 2006 to 2012. I'm far from an enthusiastic defender of Inkscape (which has its own annoyances, such as "flowtext" nonsense), and I don't actually use Inkscape to edit SVG files (only to test and convert them), but when it comes to garbageflooding internal to an SVG file, Inkscape yields the crown to Adobe... AnonMoos (talk) 22:03, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
We shall have to agree to disagree then. Along with the fact that there isn't a single one SVG file created by Inkscape that I haven't been able to reduce in size up to 75% by the simple expedient of using Illustrator. I simply make sure that I don't tick the box requesting that I keep the file in Illustrator editable format, I keep the precision to 1 point and "use fewer tspan elements". I suppose it all comes down to how one uses the program, and after 20 years I feel I have a reasonably good idea on how to do that. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 08:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
If you can get Illustrator to emit lean and clean code, then that's great for you personally, but there's strong accumulated evidence that many others are not able to use the program as successfully... AnonMoos (talk) 03:19, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
For example, a case in point: File:MultinationalForce-IraqDUI.svg. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 11:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

## Graph needed from a spreadsheet

Not done

Request: I have a Excel spreadsheet of air pollution data in China that I want to have turned into a graph. I think the R programming language is quite a nice way of doing it? I can email the data or should I dump it somewhere on the web? -- Alan Liefting (talk) 00:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):What type of graph? You can use the data in excel to create an excel graph which can be copied as an image and uploaded here. You can use SVGmaker to export the graph to SVG. Then you'll have to remove the watermarks that SVG maker puts(pretty easy in a text editor/inkscape). Best if you can upload the excel file somewhere.--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 10:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Illustrator's graphing function can do exactly that, and relatively easily too. What sort of graph would be required? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Even simpler would be to open the excel file with Libre Office and export the chart as SVG.--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 10:12, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
And horrible code it produces too. Not to mention the limited formatting and customisation too. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 11:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Actually I just did some experimentation with LibreOffice (it's been a while since I've used it) and the results and the procedure are truly horrible. First off you have to create the graph, then you have to click inside the chart and do a Ctrl-A (if it lets you that is), then you have to copy and past the result into either Libre Draw or Inkscape. At which point you discover that (depending on which chart type you chose) what you have copied and pasted is actually a bitmap that has to be traced if you don't want the SVG to be an envelope containing a single raster graphic. So basically, not the simple solution you suggested. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 11:43, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I would have hoped that Commons would have some sort of commonly used graphing methods in place by now. I suppose most stuff comes in as images rather than the raw data that I am presenting. Alan Liefting (talk) 01:31, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Alas no, other than maybe encapsulated in a PDF (which is sort of frowned upon). If you let me know what sort of graph/chart you want and where I can download the spreadsheet from (email me the details if you don't want to make them public) and I will happily do what's required. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Alan Liefting -- there are several graphing or quasi-graphing methods, but they're on the Wikipedias (where they're useful for presenting data in articles), not on Commons. See en:Help:EasyTimeline_syntax, en:Wikipedia:Graphs_and_charts, etc. -- AnonMoos (talk) 18:54, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

python has mathplotlib if I spell it correctly. Penyulap 05:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

## Vectorise Copenhagen Coat of Arms

Request: Please can you redraw the above image and vectorise/save as an svg image. A previous attempt was made at File:Greater coat of arms of Copenhagen.svg. but that had multiple issues (the positions need to be rather exact). If you could save over the second file that would be easier.
This other outline may help as a guide: [1]. Thanks. --000peter (talk) 22:58, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Not accurate in SVG to implement, respectively maybe not without pay. It would be a complete unofficial redesign. -- πϵρήλιο 08:17, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

## Extreme weather damage

(no gallery yet)

Request: Please create a free graph by combining [2] and [3] (from [4].) Thank you. --75.166.192.187 23:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

## Mozilla Firefox 3.5 logo 256.png

Request: Convert this image to SVG. I cannot find any SVG version of this logo online, and it is a bit difficult to draw so I cannot convert it myself. The old logo (Firefox 3.0 and earlier) has an SVG version but that is copyrighted (the new logo, shown here, is freely licensed) --Jfd34 (talk) 06:32, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):Mozilla offers a 2169*2081px png version at [5]--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 19:03, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Even at that size, if you embed it in an SVG file the size of the SVG size will become very large. Converting the logo to SVG will allow it to be scaled infinitely, while keeping the file size relatively small. Jfd34 (talk) 09:59, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
The Category descriptions points to Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Firefox.svg as Mozilla does not allow high-resolution version of their trademarked logos. Matt (talk) 14:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
You're wrong. Your remark was true on past Firefox versions but not with the current logos that are given 3 open licences (MPL, GPL and LGPL), thus permitting publication, reuse and production and publication of derived works (provided that one of the 3 licences are kept, with the required attribution). In other words, the vectorization request os perfectly valid (and the Mozilla Foundation will be also credited on them, having full rights to reuse these SVG versions if it wishes...). The 3 open licences are covering the copytight, the author's right, but not directly the trademark right (but as long as we are told to keep the attribution and say this is atrademark, it is safe to publish the logo or any derived logo that preserves the same trademark right). verdy_p (talk) 16:06, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Well. There a vector version of logo on Mozilla site - in Adobe Illustrator CS4 EPS format. But it is can't be simple exported to svg - many of filters not implemented yet in RSVG(render used on wikipedia). It's need a big editing, to make similar logo without that filters. But altering is not permitted! Just using a png file, and providing link to to vector(for print's) - best way in my opinion.
The EPS-Version doesn't contain unsupported filters but a whole lot of raster graphics to create the gradients (and "prevent" incompatibilities)... It's not possible to convert it to SVG without the original vector file. -- Patrick87 (talk) 02:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Err.. What? Do you even downloaded and opened the EPS file in Illustrator? There NO ANY RASTER GRAPHICS! It's 100% vector file - just simple curves with gradient fills, gausian blur, and color blending modes.
No, I used Inkscape. Those must be proprietary extensions by Adobe then that do not follow the SVG standard. Are you able to export a valid plain SVG without any Adobe extensions and not containing rasterized effects? -- Patrick87 (talk) 19:31, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
It is not the purpose of this lab to attempt to mimic trademarked logos like this. Any errors or inaccuracies would be a misrepresentation, so we shouldn't even attempt it. It's clear that they haven't released an SVG version, so if no-one can convert the EPS there's nothing we can reasonably do. NikNaks talk - gallery - wikipedia 15:55, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

## File:Political System of the United States.svg and File:Politisches System der Vereinigten Staaten.svg

Request: It would be nice if someone could review these graphics and may improve them or do some bugfix (I'm using Adobe Illustrator and so the text is a bit displaced). Thanks and greetings Allrounder (talk) 01:06, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

I didn't see any great problems, but I moved a few captions slightly, and changed the wording of the bottom white box to "18 years and older". The discrepancies between what you see in Illustrator and how the images render on Commons are due to the fact that the "ArialMT" font is not installed on Wikimedia servers (which substitute a different font with different metrics). If you could install a font which is on the Wikimedia servers onto your own system, and specify it in the SVG file, then theoretically you could see the same thing in Illustrator as here... AnonMoos (talk) 03:17, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Also, the diagram seems to be modified from one near the beginning of the second volume of the Penguin Atlas of World History by Kinder and Hilgemann, but I'm not sure all the changes are improvements. There's no indications of the Supreme Court's ability to rule laws and executive actions unconstitutional, and the senate's main authority over the armed forces is funding. The senate has the ability to confirm presidential appointees and supreme court justices, but no direct power to give orders to the cabinet or Supreme Court. The president does not have a "suspensive" veto over legislation, but a veto overridable by a 2/3 vote of both houses. "Executive Office" is the name of a building, but not really of a layer of government. "§" seems to mean legislative authority, but is not explained. Etc. AnonMoos (talk) 05:49, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't know a Penguin Atlas of World History - what's that? I made this one by myself. Allthough I'm quite sure that the graphics should be correct. However, I made a request at w:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics/American_politics.
• There's no indications of the Supreme Court's ability to rule laws and executive actions unconstitutional -> I could improve that by connecting the Supreme court and the red arrow.
• The senate has [...] no direct power to give orders to the cabinet or Supreme Court -> Right. But where's the allusion on that in the graphic?
• The president does not have a "suspensive" veto over legislation, but a veto overridable by a 2/3 vote of both houses -> A "suspensive veto" means exactly that: "a suspensive veto is the ability of an executive to return a bill to the legislature without the bill becoming law. The veto is suspensive because the Congress can override the veto, given a large enough majority. The opposite of a suspensive veto is an absolute veto, a power the President does not have." [6]
• "Executive Office" is the name of a building -> No, see w:Executive Office of the President of the United States
• "§" seems to mean legislative authority -> Right. I think that's prettyself-explanatory ;-)
Greetings Allrounder (talk) 00:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
The "Penguin Atlas of World History" is a translation of something which was apparently called the "DTV (Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag) Atlas zur Weltgeschichte" in 1966 (have no idea whether it may have been republished since). I've noticed that a number of political diagrams originating from German Wikipedia seemed to be based on diagrams in that book...
—The blue arrow from the Senate to the Cabinet and to the Armed Forces is oversimplified, since it looks exactly like the blue arrow from the president to the Cabinet and to the Armed Forces, yet the authority of the Senate and the authority of the president are quite different...
—The president's veto power would not usually be called "suspensive" by native English speakers; a veto is final (with no time limit) unless the Congress acts against it within a specified time. "Suspensive" would tend to imply the power to suspend the operation of laws for a certain time, or in the face of emergency.
—The Executive Office of the President is his personal staff (plus outside advisers and certain extra-departmental "czars"), but few outside Washington know or care much about it, and it isn't part of the constitution. The president controls the executive government of the United States, not just the Executive Office.
—I really don't know that § would be very "self-explanatory" to those who haven't perused the Penguin Atlas of World History... -- AnonMoos (talk) 04:27, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
OK, I don't know the Atlas zur Weltgeschichte...
• Yea, of course the powers are slightly different, but this graphic does not intend to describe every detail of the political system, but give a overview about it. But of course you're right that the arrows could be too similar - what would you change to make them more understand- and differentiable?
• Hmm, I'm not a native speaker (like you may have noticed ;-), but I think that this expression is known in English political science, too though (see eg the link). And the presidential veto is not final, but does suspend the operation of laws for a certain time...
• The w:Executive Office of the President of the United States even has it own WP-article; of course the President controls all of the executive, but the graphic leaves no doubt about this though..
• Yes, § is IMHO really self-explanatory (or with what could you confuse it?)
Greetings Allrounder (talk) 18:07, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
I uploaded a new version (before - after). Better? Allrounder (talk) 16:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, now I think the content problems should be solved (if not, please comment). But there's still a formal problem with the text in both pictures (it's still displaced, allthough I used Liberation Sans...). Would be nice if sby could solve this and do a bit bug fix, so we can use the graphics in the articles =). Greetings Allrounder (talk) 15:18, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

• The blue arrow from the state legislatures to the state courts should be removed. There are many ways of selecting state courts, depending on the state, and I don't think they can be shown on a simplistic diagram like this one. They include direct partisan election, Federal-style appointment and confirmation, Missouri plan-selection of candidates by a judicial nomination convention and a gubernatorial selection of one of them (the Missouri plan also includes "yes-or-no" retention elections). – Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:46, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Of course there are many ways of selecting state courts but all of them have sth to do with the state legislature. But u can remove the arrow if you want to.. Allrounder (talk) 13:12, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
No, that was kind of my point. 2 of the 3 common ways have nothing to do with the state legislature at all. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 23:54, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
...and removed. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 00:02, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

## Request for assistance

Request: File:The_Cutter's_Practical_Guide_1898_Edition_Part_1.djvu has a number of 'pattern' plates, It would seem reasonable for these to be in an appropriate vector format, hence I am requesting the assistance of the graphics lab in converting them, in a consistent style.

Assistance in getting the Fashion plates and other illustration in this work converted would also be appreciated. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Sounds fun :). I'll prepare the first of these pattern plates and give it to you to comment. Other illustrations in this work are in my opinion too complex to be coverted to SVG.  Request taken by Jembezmamy (talk) 10:41, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I've drawn the first pattern. There is one little rendering error ("The" in a title isn't italic), which I'll fix in a future. Now I have a new idea: wouldn't it be practical to make this SVG interactive, so everyone could just type in their measurements and print their own pattern in 1:1 scale? I can write an open source JavaScript code that makes it possible. I think it would be nice. I will make sewing much easier for amateurs. I'll consult this also with my friend, who is a fashion designer, to find out whether it is worth the effort. --Jembezmamy (talk) 12:04, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

 The Shirt System The Shirt System
Yes, adapting this so it can be used to generate custom patterns would be PRECISELY what as Wikimedia project should do :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:57, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

## Gaza Ceasefire

Request: Could someone who is a better SVG wizard than me please use the data (but not the design) from http://shiptogaza.se/sites/default/files/newsImages/602227_539080766122345_148531382_n_0.jpg to create new graph(s)? // Liftarn (talk) 20:12, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): What type of graphs do you want exactly? NikNaks talk - gallery - wikipedia 14:38, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Five bar charts and one pie chart. The first bar chart needs to be stacked. // Liftarn (talk)
Five bar charts? Of what?? Also, if you provide a link to the page on Wikipedia, we can create charts that way, which would probably be better in this case. NikNaks talk - gallery - wikipedia 18:52, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

## Coat of arms of Malaysia (1963-1965).jpg

Article(s): Coat of arms of Malaysia, List of coats of arms used in Singapore and others.

Request:

Can someone please vectorize this? Thanks. — Cheers, JackLee talk 18:52, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

There are some similar coat of arms already in SVG format that could need some improvement, too. I also found a coat of arms of Malaya that is very similar to the one in the requested file (see second gallery). -- Patrick87 (talk) 12:00, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that "Coat of arms of Malaysia (1963-1965).jpg" is not identical to those other coats of arms, in case this hasn't been noticed. The coat of arms was altered after Singapore left the Federation of Malaysia in 1965. — Cheers, JackLee talk 14:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Anyone able to take this request on? — Cheers, JackLee talk 12:09, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

## BPL.png

Request:

Convert this image to SVG. (look here then convert in SVG) -- Aftab1995 (talk) 14:21, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

The PNG seems to be a version rendered from an existing vector source (you actually see the anti-aliasing artifacts). Could you try to find it? It's never really reasonable to vectorize logos by hand. --Patrick87 (talk) 14:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
This is the main picture (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/8/88/BPL-LOGO.jpg). i Convert it into png.--Aftab1995 (talk) 14:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

## Executive seals

Request:: Please recreate the following executive seals of the US, neccessary derivative parts are provided above. Colorado's which says "Executive Office". Connecticut's which says "Executive Department". New York's "Executive Branch" graphic and "Executive Privy Seal". Washington's seal. Wisconsin's "Executive Privy Seal". Wisconsin's is difficult to make out, I emailed the Governor's office and he explained it. It uses the badger and banner "Forward" from the state coat of arms, and below it is another fancy banner which says "1848". Thanks. Fry1989 eh? 02:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): A few done (belatedly). Not sure what's going on in the Connecticut one around the edge - are they stars? - and I'll hopefully get to the others in the not too distant future. NikNaks talk - gallery - wikipedia 14:00, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes they Connecticut one is stars. Thanks for the belated assistance. Fry1989 eh? 18:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

## Correct capitalization in Croatian Water cycle diagram

It concerns this image: File:Watercycle-croatian.jpg an official translation of the USGS water cycle image - User:Kubura says the capitalization is wrong. He says:

• "They can copy the text as it is located on the older Croatian translation; but, not to use the capital letters, but the "small" ones. In the title, first word is written with the capital letter, the other one not. (Hidrološki ciklus, Vodni ciklus, not Vodni Ciklus"

The older translation he referred to is hr:File:Kruženje vode-hidrološki ciklus.png which was translated by a Wikipedian from English to Croatian. It corresponds to an older official USGS water cycle image. The USGS itself had an older official translation at File:Watercyclecroatianhigh.jpg

Please use File:Watercycle-notext.jpg and/or File:Watercycle-notext-boxes.jpg as the basis for the new version and save it into a new file

The newer Engish version (basis of Watercycle-croatian.jpg) is File:Watercyclesummary.jpg. The older English version (basis of the Wikipedian-made Kruženje vode-hidrološki ciklus.png and the official Watercyclecroatianhigh.jpg) is File:Water cycle.png

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 11:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I use the original directly, is the original better now ? I also remove unnecessary text from it. Penyulap 12:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for making an edited version of that one. Unfortunately it was not what I was looking for. I would like a version of the new image File:Watercycle-croatian.jpg but with modified text that fits what Kubura is looking for, and with altered capitalization. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:41, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Followed Kubura. like this ? Penyulap 15:54, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes. Thank you very much :) - I'm checking with Kubura to see if he likes it WhisperToMe (talk) 22:08, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Kubura gave me some more ideas for fixes:

• "[7] Nice improvement, thank You for the prompt reaction. I would add (evaporation + transpiration) under "evapotranspiracija" (as in picture from hr.wiki), since that coined word confuses, so it needs explanation.
• Also it is needed "zračenje sunca" (=Sun radiation) near the Sun.
• Further: "ponornica", "izvori", "podzemni dotok", as on picture from hr.wiki.
• To replace: "voda u atmosferi" (=water in atmosphere) instead of "atmosfera".
• To replace: "jezero" (=lake) instead of "površinske vode" (=surface waters).
• No need to write twice "zalihe podzemne vode". One can be "tok podzemne vode" (groundwater flow), the other "zalihe podzemne vode" (groundwater storage). As here [8] on the original site.
• This picture contains error in grammar case: zalihe podzemne vodA", correct is zalihe podzemne vode.
• Compared with the original picture, "plant uptake", "flora and fauna", "vents and volcanos" and "dew" were not translated and they are missing."

WhisperToMe (talk) 04:46, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

a full and complete list of captions would be very nice, but for now, I take a rest from this request. Penyulap 05:24, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Ok :) - I'll relay the info to Kubura WhisperToMe (talk) 06:48, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

## COA missing

Request:

COA of articles mentioned above are missing. Images are available on following websites [9], [10] and [11]. I've written or will write the german articles myself... Thank you very much for your help --ArnoldBetten (talk) 15:10, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

## New svg needed

We need one similar to File:PDmaybe-icon.svg for Template:Not-free-US-FOP, Template:Non-free graffiti, and similar templates. The one now is PD/Copyright but what we need is Copyright depends on jurisdiction, future case law, or future DCMA etc. I was thinking of either the scales of justice or a broken infinity symbol: Category:Unbalanced scales of justice, Category:Infinity. Thoughts?--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:22, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

## New svgs: ESRB icons

Someone at help desk wishes we would update Category:Entertainment Software Rating Board to match http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/08/02/esrb-tweaks-ratings-icons-mobile-devices#.Uf6FsJ34CfB . Should we email them to see if they have svg versions already?--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

ESRB have updated there icons http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/08/02/esrb-tweaks-ratings-icons-mobile-devices#.Uf5pNZLxogk will someone overwrite the icons on wikimedia commons too so they are up to date by making them in SVG and split the older ones out to a historical folder? Kind regards. ... --80.161.143.239 19:47, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Whoever wants to work on this request, I'd recommend to move the old files (and e.g. append `(old)` to the filename) and upload the updated versions with the current filename so it is automatically updated across the articles which use those images. --Patrick87 (talk) 17:15, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking the same thing because of all the projects they are on. I just sent them an email to see if they have svg versions for us. If they don't respond in a few days then commons will have to make their own. I think the png ones came from their pdfs here: http://www.esrb.org/about/media_library.jsp --Canoe1967 (talk) 17:50, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Email received: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50919224/ESRB%20Icons%20JPEG.zip They only include .jpg. They don't have .svg.
They would also like me to let them know when the .svgs are done. Should I hit them up for a WMF donation to get them faster? We could even do all of their graphics for donations if they are paying people now. (joke)--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:34, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, I uploaded the official PNG versions (@Canoe1967: Maybe you can update the source information if appropriate) and found a source for most of the new icons including the newly introduced "interactive elements" icons.
There are however still three missing rating category icons: File:ESRB 2013 Early Childhood.svg, File:ESRB 2013 Adults Only.svg and File:ESRB 2013 Rating Pending.svg. Most parts should be possible to recreate with the help of the old SVGs, but the texts at the top changed so it's not easy to correctly rebuild them. If anybody feels like it, then go for it! Otherwise we can still wait for official SVGs. --Patrick87 (talk) 23:39, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

## New flower compartment

Request:

A more natural compartment would be great. I really suck at drawing flora, and my attempts seem to make it worse.
You can take inspiration from these designs: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Canadian_Compartment.svg The compartment of the official version. (Do not copy or trace this in any way!), the 1957 version.
The description of this compartment is A wreath of roses, thistles, shamrocks and lilies proper.
This file has a different rendition of the thistle, if you judge it to fit better in the compartment. --Lemmens, Tom (talk) 13:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

## Historic (1981) UK Road signs

File:UKSI19810859.pdf

Request:

I note these scans are B/W. It would be nice to replace the B/W diagrams with appropriate color vector diagrams, so that they can be included in a future Wikisource transcription. --Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:52, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Most of the signs are icluded In This Category
(... but sorry, only creating the missing ones for a perhaps possible adaption of the theme
looks a little as an employment-creation measure for unemployed ?   ;-)
Jaybear...disc. • 20:53, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

## Rancagua's coat of arms

Article(s): en:Rancagua, es:Rancagua, and many others.

Request:

There is a coat of arms of Rancagua city in Commons, but it's very different from the original ones; this one and that one. Let me know if you could modify it to look more like the original ones, or re-create them. Best, (and sorry for my bad english). --Warko (talk) 20:21, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

You show two different images as one original. So I have to ask which one would you like?
As I understand you want us to add the two images to one and that one would not be like any one of them and how should it look... You have to provide us with one look and then we can tell you if we can do it. --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
This one is the real coat of arms of the city, the other one is the coat of the Municipality. --Warko (talk) 00:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

## Blazon

What would a blazon in English for File:Berenberg COA.svg look like? The German language blazon is: "Im goldenen Felde auf einem grünen Schildfuß ein nach rechts aufgerichteter schwarzer Bär mit goldenem Halsband, in den Vorderpranken einen grünen Zweig haltend" Vanasan (talk) 12:35, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Have you looked for this section: en:Blazon#Grammar? (at the image-comments)
But yes, many most of this CoA-English-Nobility are really poorly documented about their blazon ...
... looks as if you have more to investigate in the (web-)references of each CoA!
Jaybear...disc. • 23:33, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

## Signature vectorisation

Request:

Hi, I know the image above is not one of the sharpest/cleanest ones out there, but I would greatly appreciate it if someone can vectorize the signature just after the typewriter text. Thanks. --Wylve (talk) 12:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

You are only talking about the signature inside the red line on this image:
File:Farewell letter to Soviet Russia Signature-of-maybe-Sam-Jackson 2.png ?
And do you know the signers' proper name (my guess is Sam Jackson) ?
Jaybear...disc. • 13:48, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I am talking about that signature. The signer's Sun Yat-sen. --Wylve (talk) 08:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
It's a little tricky to extract the signature from the partly very darkened background ...
What's about the extract "Extracted Test-Signature" in the gallery on top?
(I've additional aligned the 3 parts of the signature, due to the original documents' little rotation;
... you can see the differences between Version (2) and (3) in the file-history of the Test-Signature)
Jaybear...disc. • 10:04, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
The test signature looks OK. --Wylve (talk) 11:49, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
@Jaybear: Not trying to rush the process, but I was just wondering how the vector file is looking. Thanks. --Wylve (talk) 13:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Request taken by Jaybear

@Wylve: Sorry for the delay, only today I've got a running Incscape-installation – see the result in the upper gallery.
(Did you know about the other existing png-version on commons?)
Jaybear...disc. • 11:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
And Now also the 2nd signature exists as svg-file.
Jaybear...disc. • 13:12, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much, Jaybear! Great work. --Wylve (talk) 19:10, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Wylve (talk) 19:10, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

## SVG recolor and chrome finish

Article(s): Colonel

Request:

This SVG is meant to resemble a garrison military rank collar device. These insignia are usually grey and silver in color with a metallic and chrome finish. However the SVG is currently only a two-dimensional color scheme, very bland. Other rank insignia SVGs have the full chrome finish applied. Therefore, please recolor the SVG so that black is a dark grey and the white is a light grey. Also add a metallic-style chrome finish similar to that found on 1/2/3. You may adjust the colors to your liking. Reference images for comparison here: 1/2/3/4. Also, if possible please upload a yellow/gold SVG with the chrome finish as well. Regards, Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 16:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

@Illegitimate Barrister: I've uploaded a version in grey with some pseudo-3D shading. However the PNG thumbnails generated by the Wikimedia software don't look right.
Rybec (talk) 03:49, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
•  Comment Thanks, it's a step in the right direction. There appears to be an issue with the transparency. It is translucent at the moment, when it should be opaque. Best regards, Illegitimate Barrister 12:05, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Article(s): de:Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg#Standortwahl (well, this is not a vote but anyway) and some more

Request:

These two "icon" are not horizontally aligned (de: schief). This is not looking so good I request to create two more svg graphic files that are like + - Thanks, --Mattes (talk) 11:52, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

As seen in Category:Norro style 1 icons, which these two images are part of, it seems that such icons are intended to be somewhat angled. There apparently also exist Norro style 2 icons, which are aligned horizontally and vertically: . Some more round icons with "+" and "-" symbols can be found at Category:+ and Category:-. SiBr4 (talk) 13:00, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

## Svg-Image with rotated Text (File:IGBT-Symbole.svg) – all png-thumbnails seem to be rendered wrong

Article(s): de:Bipolartransistor ...

Request:

The left sided Most text lines are intended as 90-deg rotated text.
* Showing the svg-file directly in a browser-window is OK!
* The generated png-thumbnails are all "messed up" with missing or wrong rotation of _all_ the text-items
Jaybear...disc. • 13:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

"Showing the SVG file directly in a browser window" means that the file is displayed by a program on your local computer, not the SVG-to-PNG rendering program installed on Wikimedia servers. When viewed in the SVG program on my local computer, the files do not look OK. The "Testfile" version has strange internal code formatting, but I did some simple text adjustments on the other version... AnonMoos (talk) 08:25, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Here is a screenshot of my browser: File:Uni-Bibl firefox-17-0-10 File IGBT-Symbole-svg 2014-019-2140.jpg
.
I'm not really shure if the svg-thumbs I'm viewing in my browser here are the same as the ones others get to see.
Fact is: All the text on the image should look exactly like on the thumb of file-version (1) in my screenshot!
.
And I'm nearly sure, that at the beginning of my uploads all the text on the thumb of file-version (2) was looking exactly in the way as the one of file-version (1).
Is it somehow possible, that (at least the thumbnail-versions) of an archived previous-version file can be changed, when uploading a new file-version?
Jaybear...disc. • 22:08, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
I did some test with this and then tested it with the tool for it [12] and there it looked fine. I can't tell now when I uploaded it because sometimes it takes time for the preview to update. If this doesn't work then we maybe have to convert the text to paths. --Goran tek-en (talk) 21:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm a little late, but Thanks for the nonce.
It looks significantly better in this version! ;-) – at least in my Firefox-browser here ...
... that are on the whole strange effects with text-rendering in the WM-commons server-generated png-subversions.
Someone disagreeing to set this issue's status to done ?
Jaybear...disc. • 21:26, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

## File:Template-info.png vectorization

Article(s): Almost all documentation pages

Request:

Please make a vectorization o this image, necessary resources are given in its category. --Rezonansowy (talk) 17:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

This one:         doesn't fit?
Jaybear...disc. • 19:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Also less fancy File:Wiki syntax template info.svg -- AnonMoos (talk) 07:59, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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They're similar but not quite, we need an exact SVG copy of this. --Rezonansowy (talk) 12:47, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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Request taken by • Jaybear...disc. • 22:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

A first A new Two test-versions are now available
Jaybear...disc. • 21:46, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
– a 2nd version (see gallery on top) is now available too !
Jaybear...disc. • 11:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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Great! The 2nd version looks most suitable (colors). I have one question - why in gallery shadows are jagged? --Rezonansowy (talk) 13:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Looks as if the "jagged-ness" is caused by little too dark shadows ...
... looking better now with the current reduced shadows, I think?!
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Have you a precise opinion how the final image should be named?
* I think File:Test Template Info-Icon - Version (2).svg should be renamed to File:"Your-File-Opinion".svg
* and File:Test Template Info-Icon - Version (2).svg could be renamed to File:"Your-File-Opinion - Version (2)".svg or so
Jaybear...disc. • 16:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Hmm, maybe File:Transluction info.svg, but I'm open on this. --Rezonansowy (talk) 17:52, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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– ((1)) the original 706px-png-file
– ((2)) the 706px-png-version of the svg-file
And some thumbnails of different sizes are looking like this:
... 160px
... 144px
... 128px

... 96px
... 64px
... 48px
... 32px

... looks in my browser a little as if the smaller server-generated png-versions are losing their shadows?
Jaybear...disc. • 23:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Great work! But why in 160px, 144px and 128px resolutions shadows behind the "i" letter are generated the other way? Maybe it's a MediaWiki render bug? --Rezonansowy (talk) 11:19, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
It's really a little annoying with the different, server-generated thumbnails ...
Why not all of the smaller ones are simply a scaled-down version of the greater ((2))-706px-version?
If this problem persists, may be the original png-image is the better choice for the template?
Jaybear...disc. • 17:14, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
IMO that's not a major problem with rendering on smaller thumbnails, maybe this bug is even on Bugzilla... Let's just finish this and again - Great work! --Rezonansowy (talk) 17:18, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
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I have a second question: Could you attribute your great work in work's original license – {{CC-0}}? This is very useful for template-functional images like this and it's required as per Wikipedia:Extended image syntax. (Done – Jaybear)
Thank you in advance. --Rezonansowy (talk) 13:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

## National emblem of France (UN variant)

Article(s): National emblem of France

Request:

I searched Commons and Wikipedia for a vector image of the French emblem (UN variant) and all I could find is that version without the Legion d'Honneur plus some minor differences. I think a more precise vector version should be created and uploaded separately. Thanks in advance.--Carnby (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

## Vector coat of arms for Dalmatia

Article(s): Dalmatia, Kingdom of Dalmatia, Coat of arms of Dalmatia, History of Dalmatia, Croatia in union with Hungary, any of the myriad battles involving Dalmatia, castles, etc.. I hope to use the new image to overwrite my own (rather widely used) file, seen above. No question the image will be used in good measure.

Request:

Hello all. If anyone feels like giving it a shot, am requesting a proper vector coat of arms for Dalmatia. It basically amounts to putting together a heraldic golden lion head: #1 front-facing, #2 maned, #3 frowning, #4 roaring, and #5 "langued" (that is to say the tongues are visible). The technical terms are "azure, with three crowned golden leopards heads affrontes Or, langued in gules". To anyone inclined to acquiesce to the request, I suggest following the appearance of the lions (in particular their crowns) from File:Wappen Königreich Dalmatien.jpg (shown above) - but with less elaborate and wavy manes. I myself recommend basing the manes on this image.
Further, I would be very much obliged if a crowned version of the coat of arms could be put together, for use as the coa of the Kingdom of Dalmatia (though this is ofc secondary to the above request). The crown could preferably be the same one as used on the lions, i.e. the version above the lion heads in File:Wappen Königreich Dalmatien.jpg. As regards the appearance of the shield itself, I recommend the classic rounded shape, as seen here.
Finally, an older version exists, which is red instead of blue, with the lions (i.e. heraldic leopards) in white, wearing golden crowns, their tongues in gold as well ("gules, with three silver leopard heads affrontes Argent, langued and crowned Or"). Though this is just a colour change, and I reckon I could manage that myself if I give it a proper try. Either way though, I hope it will be possible to colour the crown on the lion heads, and their tongues, separately from the actual heads. Thanks in advance. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 15:25, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

I don't really follow you and let's just concentrate on the first part.
You want us to take one of the lion heads from the top right picture, make a vector version of it and put it in three times as the top left picture? Let me know if I understood you right. --Goran tek-en (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Yup. With the further request that the manes need not be as luxurious and "wavy" as in the right (and left) image. I pretty much ascribe that to the general fancy look of the old coas (see manes here for a better example in that particular respect). Otherwise, the above right-hand image is best. A couple additional points:
• Its also not necessary to copy exactly the "3D" look of the lions on the right image, which I believe is achieved by them having "shadows".
• The crowns on the lions are, in some versions, colored differently than the lion heads themselves, so it would be great if they and the (red) tongues could remain separate "objects" (is that the right term?) to facilitate future colour changes. (The crowns should, ofc, remain in contact with the heads)
--DIREKTOR (TALK) 01:40, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 18:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I will show you a draft in time and we will take it from there. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
My thanks. Just a note: I'm an enWiki editor, primarily. I'll certainly be checking here often, but probably will reply sooner if you link my username in you comment or post on my Commons talkpage. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 22:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

@DIREKTOR: Now you can look at a draft here. Give me feedback on it. The crown and tongue are in separate layers as you requested.
Eventually I will need the following;

• Name of the file
• Description
• Category/ies

to be able to upload it as a new file or if you want me to upload it as a version of the existing. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

It looks great. In terms of feedback I'd be happy to see following further modifications (pls be aware these are just suggestions on possibly improving what is really an excellent job):
• The mouths of the lions are framed only by their mane, which gives them a somewhat disembodied, "cartoonish" look. The chin is a bit hard to perceive. The heads in general can be larger in proportion to the shield. See this precursor coa from the Early Middle Ages (where the lions are facing right and are not 'affrontes').
• The mane looks great, but it appears more as a "beard". Its really a detail, but I would maybe add a "tuft" or two pointing upwards (not downwards) at the point where the mane ends near the ears.
• The proportions of the crown appear slightly off. If you have a look at the above right-hand image, the three leaf-like "outcroppings" on the crowns (worn by the lions in the coat of arms) are farther-off from each-other than appear on the SVG image.
Besides the changes to the model itself, this is a coat of arms that's well over a 1,000 years old, so, as I mentioned before, there are some alternate historical versions that I think shouldn't be all that difficult to bring about. Three that I know of:
• There is a version exactly like this one, but with the shield crowned (with the same crown the lions use). This is for use as the coat of arms of the Kingdom of Dalmatia. Hoping this will be a slightly modified crown than that one in the current version (per above), but again - its a suggestion.
• And there's the Venetian version, which is like this one, but the shield is red, whereas the lions, their crowns, and their tongues are gold (so the whole lion head is gold on a red shield, presumably the gems in the crown can remain white, though).
Hope I've managed to be clear enough, thanks again for your work. Rest assured its appreciated, and will be widely used. In fact this will probably be 'the' coa of Dalmatia from this point on. As for the name and description etc., I figure we can just overwrite the left-hand image I myself uploaded. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 13:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
@DIREKTOR: I did it in that manner "cartoonish" because you didn't want that much 3D-look but now I have made the changes and there is two versions for you to look at.
and give me feedback on which you want and/if there is anything to change.
• Once we have agreed on one look we can talk about the other versions, so get back to me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
When I said "shadows" I meant "shadows" the lions as a whole cast on the shield - I certainly don't object to using shadows within the lion heads themselves. Apologies if I was not specific. The second version certainly seems the better one. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 21:01, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
OK now you can look here:
• shadows, maybe you have to reload the page to get the new version. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Right, as I said, I don't think shadows on the shield are a good way to go. Otherwise I'm fine with shadow effects. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 21:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I can't see who wrote this last comment and I would like to know if the shadows on the shield should be removed and if it's Done? --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

That was me, yup I personally don't think we need them :) --DIREKTOR (TALK) 21:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
@DIREKTOR: It's now uploaded and I will work on the other two versions. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:38, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Now there are two more for you to look at;
Give me feedback on those and let's see if I understood you right. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Agh, damn.. was just about to post. Note I've modified the appearance of the shield slightly (with my very amateurish Illustrator skills.. I don't think the heads are 100% aligned :)). I'd be obliged if you used a narrower shield as in the new upload. Re the two versions:
• If I'm not mistaken, the crown ought to somehow stretch significantly more across the shield's top, yet not so much that the tips of the crown extend too far beyond the sides of the shield (see here, for example). A narrower shield might help in that regard. For inspiration, I recommend the crown on the bottom-most lion head in this image.
• In the Venetian version, I think we can keep the teeth and eyes white (i.e. the whites of the eyes), and ofc the narrower shield. The irises and mouth openings (on either side of the tongues) could also remain entirely black as in the original. That is to say, the only difference besides the red shield ought to be the gold tongues. Otherwise, its great.
--DIREKTOR (TALK) 19:40, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

@DIREKTOR: OK, i did have to upload a new version of your narrow shield version. When you change the size of the drawings area or position of any object which include gradients/fill/pattern you have to include those in the movement (you have to check some buttons, in Inkscape any way) otherwise they will be misplaced. I used gradients (shadows) so it's a bit complicated drawing, you have to know what you do when you move things. If you download your version you will see that the eyes and other has been misplaced.
Now you can look at new versions on the links above but reload the page. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:27, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Yeah.. I realized I also didn't include the pearls on the crown of the lowest lion head in my upload, so I tried to fix it but then read your post and realized I better leave that to people who know what they're doing. Anyway, the pearls are missing there, on all versions - terribly sorry :(. As I said: very poor Illustrator skills. Aside from that little glitch, I think the Venetian version is done with for good.
Re the crowned version.. I can't help but feel I might've been mistaken in thinking the crown off the lions can just be extended across the top of the shield. Its elements just seem too big compared to the detail of the lions themselves. If you feel like putting together a more detailed crown for the top of the shield, that'd be great - if not, wonderful work either way :). Have a look at this crown here (found here). I tried to extend it somewhat but ofc failed in that it just turned out looking stretched (I did manage to change its colour appropriately, though). --DIREKTOR (TALK) 20:42, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
@DIREKTOR: Now I have replaced the missing pearls and uploaded it.
For Coat_of_arms_of_Dalmatia_venetia I need the following;
• Name of the file
• Description
• Category/ies
to be able to upload it.
Then for the crowned version you can look at this draft and give me feedback.
Many people think that it's just to enlarge or reduce something like that but almost always you have to adjust the proportions/lines and a lot of other things. It's the same with text, you can't just go from 12px to 120px without adjusting the spaces between letters. Anyway now there is the draft as above. --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
• Coat of arms of Dalmatia (Venetian); "The Coat of arms of Dalmatia as used by the Republic of Venice"; pretty much the same cats as the main coa image. Will fix that up myself.
• Re the crowned version, looks great :). As far as feedback goes.. maybe the crown could be a tad taller, its spikes a tiny bit farther away from each other, maybe. Not sure about further apart, though.
Am pretty handy with Photoshop, but I'm struggling to get my head around Illustrator. Not easy at all. For example, I thought I'd just desaturate the tongues a bit, give them a dimmer shade of red to go with the subdued colors. Didn't think it was worth bothering others about such a tiny change. Couldn't figure it out :). --DIREKTOR (TALK) 00:27, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
P.s. Since I'm shamelessly exploiting your work to advance my project along, I thought I might also request if you could vectorize just the shield from this image, into a vector image that uses the same shield proportions as currently the new Dalmatia coa? Then I'm hoping to place the two shields side-by-side in a single image: like this - except the Croatian checkerboard would be properly vectorized as per the aforementioned source image, and not compressed. I can then use the combined coas to represent the historical en:Kingdom of Croatia and Dalmatia. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 01:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

DIREKTOR Now I have made a taller one which you can look at here and give me feedback.

• I didn't understand if you wanted me to help you with that desaturated version or you just wanted to write it of you?
• For your P.s. I will help you, of course. But as this section has got very long I would like you to start a new request for that. Write in the Graphist opinion that I will take it and notify me when you have created it and we will take it from there. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
• Sure, looks good. I think the cross looks a bit our of place, but otherwise, I think its done. In either case, I feel uncomfortable posting further "demands" :)
• Yup, it occurred to me to try and desaturate the red of the tongues just a bit, all other colours being subdued also. Could you do it since I seem to just mess up the images whenever I touch them.
• Did you perhaps upload the Venetian version? I'm eager to put it up. If possible, it'd be great if its shade of red could match that on this image.
--DIREKTOR (TALK) 20:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

It's OK to have demands, it's for your use we create those images and some things you don't see/realize until you are a bit into the process.
They are all uploaded now with the cross removed (gem instead), tongues desaturated a bit and coat color changed.
I did overwrite your versions of the "Coat of arms of Dalmatia" and "Coat of arms of Dalmatia crowned" as I understood this was what you wanted. Coat of arms of Dalmatia (Venetian) is also uploaded and then this would be done, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)  Done

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Goran tek-en (talk) 10:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

## Extra size!

Hi every body. I am a rookie in draw objects by AI.(also I cant speak english very well :)) I drew a cute goldfish by AI CS6 but it size is out of standard. I dont know what must I do to reduce it size to normal size for this shape. Can you do it for me? and teach me abstract?

Very thanx.SaMin SAmIN (talk) 00:34, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Did you draw this with some graphics tablet? The reason for the disproportionate file size is, that all paths consist of hundreds of nodes (instead of only few with the curves between them defined by mathematical functions as it is usual for vector graphics). Also some paths overlay themselves multiply (as if you draw something with a pencil using multiple strokes to draw one line, thats why I asked for the tablet).
While one can in principle simplify the paths automatically after drawing the image one will always loose some precision there. Retrace the outlines would be possible too but probably inconvenient in most cases. Therefore you should probably optimize your workflow from the start, so less nodes are created in the first place. We can't help you on this thoug, as long as we do not have further information on how you've actually drawn the image. --Patrick87 (talk) 13:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Patrick for your good help. I changed mode of the Painting to «Create Outline» and just moved Effective lines to a new artboard. It did work and I have a goldfish with 66.3kb size! :) thank you again.SaMin SAmIN (talk) 09:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Should upload the greatly-condensed file over the bloated one... AnonMoos (talk) 16:36, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
@SaMin SAmIN: Little reminder: You should upload the greatly-condensed file over the bloated one ;-)   • Jaybear...disc. • 20:55, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you good friends. I dont forget this method.SaMin SAmIN (talk) 16:17, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

## Structure formula andirobin

Article(s): I'm going to write an article nl:Andirobine on Dutch Wikipedia

Request:

Is it possible to have an image (preferably svg) of the structure formula of andirobin, as shown on this page? The isomeric SMILES are given on that page. Thank you, LeRoc (talk) 13:22, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Great! Looking forward to see what you come up with. LeRoc (talk) 15:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
@LeRoc: Now you can look at this draft and give me feedback.
I didn't know if it should be 0 zero or O the letter o, you have to tell me. Also right now there is no background at all, if you want so tell me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:13, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Thank you. It seems to me however that Wikipedia has some kind of standard form for presenting chemical structure formulas. I'd prefer it to be in that form, but I guess some chemical drawing program would be needed for that. LeRoc (talk) 15:16, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
@LeRoc: Now I have made it using one tool for that. This is what i got created with SketchEl. As you can see there are some differences. The partly red surrounding O didn't appear, the grey part by H didn't show up either. Down in the right hand corner the double lines has an opening at the top (which it did by it self), to the left almost at the bottom the line inside couldn't I find any automatic way to create so it's handmade.
This is a kind of semi automatic program which changes things when I for instance put in O somewhere and so on. So this is what it gave me and i need your feedback on this, thanks. If there is anyone else who has done this before that you know of please ask them to check this. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en:. To be honest, I don't need the greys and the reds very much. I wouldn't mind if everything were black and white, like most chemical structure formulas on Wikipedia. I would like to get rid of the opening at the top of the double lines though, that should be closed. Do you think that is possible? LeRoc (talk) LeRoc (talk) 19:36, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

@LeRoc: Changed as above. When you look at the link maybe you have to reload the page to get the new version.
Then I will need the following;

• Name of the file
• Description
• Category/ies

to be able to upload it. It would have been good (for the next time) if you told the person to work on it those things, black and white, has to be drawn in a special program and so on. It saves time and reduces the mistakes, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been travelling without internet access the last couple of days. It looks great! The filename could be Andirobin_structure_formula.svg. The description: "Chemical structure formula of andirobin (C32H27O7), a limonoid found in the oil of Carapa guianensis Aubl.". Category:Limonoids. Greetings, LeRoc (talk) 12:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Now it's uploaded Andirobin structure formula.

Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:51, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: Thank you very much! I'll need three or more structure formulas for other substances like this one, but I suggest that I'll try to play around with SketchEl for myself a bit, and if I encounter any problems I'll ask questions here, if that's ok. LeRoc (talk) 15:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Of course. I did try to import the files you can export from PubChem into SketcEl and that work fine. The problem for me was that it imported to much, there were more than one formula so it got too complicated for me. I had to build it from scratch. But maybe you with your knowledge can export/import just what you need because then it's done. It seems to be a good program to do just this. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: I'll have a look around. Thanks again for your help. Sorry that I didn't formulate my question clearly enough the first time. LeRoc (talk) 22:02, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
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Article(s):

Request:

Please remove the Adobe Illustrator headers to make this compatible with Inkscape, crop out unused empty space, and increase the color saturation of the image to make it more yellowish-goldish. --Illegitimate Barrister 16:27, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

What about File:Award-star-gold-3d.svg? --Patrick87 (talk) 17:51, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
• There appears to be issues with that file when shown at small resolutions, where it appears black rather than yellow. Illegitimate Barrister 14:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
I have made a version which is constructed in another way and hopefully without the rendering problems. I have checked it at the tool we have for that svgcheck and you can look at the draft here. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:53, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Article(s):

Request:

Please align the drop-shadow so it is directly behind the star, rather than offset at an angle. This will resolve alignment issues. After re-aligning, please crop the file so any unused space is removed. --Illegitimate Barrister 21:22, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
This is a bitmap image so I did a svg version Bronze-service-star-3d on which you can give me feedback. I think svg is to be preferred in this case. I have done it in some other ways than what the other stars like Award-star-gold-3d which has some rendering problems which I hope this one doesn't have. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

@Illegitimate Barrister: I need your feedback on this draft Bronze-service-star-3d, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:28, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

• Sorry for the delay. It's good, although the bronze stars are a different shape than the gold ones. They are more smaller and obtuse, I think is the word. Illegitimate Barrister 14:02, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
@Illegitimate Barrister: I saw that when you mentioned it so I have changed the shape now and it has the same size as the png above. Bronze-service-star-3d maybe you have to reload the page to get the new image. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

## Reasonator template logo

 12px

Article(s): Wikidata Template that links to Reasonator

Request:

Can anybody improve this so the logo looks good at 12 px size (normal screens) or roughly text size (on very high resolution screens). All my attempts turn out blurry. --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

12px is not very much but I have tried and you can see it here;

Thanks for trying. I guess the screen technology or (my) human eye is the limitation. We will just have to use something around 16 px: --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:58, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

 16px

Ok I think 12 is just too small. I am quite happy with this one with 16x16 px (

). Thanks Goran tek-en for the help! --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:51, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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## Vector arms for the Kingdom of Croatia and Dalmatia

Request:

Essentially these images consist of #1 the Croatian shield and #2 the Dalmatian shield, #3 each surmounted by a crown of the same model.
Basically we need a coat of arms of Croatia that follows the appearance of the 1495 medieval arms, both in shape and in the specific layout of the checkerboard pattern; we need it to be crowned as depicted; and it can be bordered in red (as in here). Secondly, we need a Dalmatian shield that has the same proportions as the aforementioned Croatian arms, surmounted with the same crown. The Dalmatian shield itself should not be difficult, as its possible to basically just modify the proportions of this shield, compliments of Goran tek-en.
Needless to say, neither shield need be yellowed-out or follow exactly the worn-out appearance of the medieval depiction. A simple white and red checkerboard pattern (corresponding in layout to the image, and bordered in red) will more than suffice. As regards the precise shade of red, the shade found here would be best imo. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 13:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 14:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Now you can look at those drafts. The coats is exactly the same also in px size.
Give me feedback on those drafts, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
What I'd propose is maybe to have their crowns slightly less tall and a bit wider across the top of the shield. Other than that - another impressive piece of work. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 14:52, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
New version for you to look at and give me feedback, maybe you have to reload the pages;
I will need the following for the upload;
• Name of the files
• Descriptions
• Category/ies
to be able to upload them as new files or if you want me to upload them as a versions of any existing files, you have to tell me. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en. Apologies for my absence.
• The merged file can probably overwrite this file, I'll add necessary categories.
• The Croatian checkerboard arms can be uploaded as a new version of this file.
• The Dalmatian arms can, I suppose, be uploaded separately. Name: "File:Coat of arms of Dalmatia 1495.svg"; Description: "Coat of arms of Dalmatia, 1495 (Innsbruck, Austria)". Cats are the same as here, minus the "Coats of arms of Austria-Hungary" cat.
Thanks again for your work. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 22:14, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

DIREKTOR Life is more than WMC so that's nothing to apologies for.

• For the merged, should that be with the crowns? The previous is without. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:59, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
However you feel is best. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 10:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Now you can find them here but their pages need some editing;
• Coat of arms of Croatia and Dalmatia 1495 I would have liked the license to be CC-BY-SA and I read on this page Commons:Coats_of_arms that there is a difference between the coat itself and the depicting of a coat. But I don't really understand how this should be shown on this page. Also maybe some of the templates could be removed, sources and versions corrected.
• Coat of arms of Croatia 1495 and same as above.
• Coat of arms of Dalmatia 1495 You should probably check the whole page to add/change things.
• There are so many different versions now that I don't know which to connect together or which is version of what, you would have to do that if it's needed. thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:57, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Done

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## Photo challenge awards

Article(s): Commons:Photo challenge, user talk pages

Request:

I made the three metal variations of File:Camera2 mgx.svg as a quick solution for the photo challenge winners in January (without any real graphic skills) and I'm not too happy with the colours... if possible, it would probably be nice to develop something for the photo challenge winners (I don't know where I could ask for that), but for the moment I think that correcting/improving those three would be great. --Anna reg (talk) 22:48, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Here are three alternative proposals. Tell me what you think. I'll fix the apparent RSVG rendering error which I just noticed in the meantime and will try to play around with some glow/gloss effects. --Patrick87 (talk) 23:45, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I love the silver one. The gold one seems a bit yellow/black to me and I never know with bronze (other than that it's a lot better than my try)... I just tried to find some gold/bronze pictures as 'references' - perhaps they can help? and
Thanks a lot for helping, --Anna reg (talk) 15:43, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
OK, I tuned the color a bit and tried some filter effects to give the cameras a more realistic look (wasn't too succesfull though because auf RSVG rendering errors). I think the current result is fine too, though, or do you have any further wished what to change? --Patrick87 (talk) 16:56, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Once more, thanks for your help. I like the colours a lot more like that. Now I just need the template they should be part of... ;-> Anna reg (talk) 18:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Should we not go for a more neutral camera like this
High-contrast-camera-photo-2
and it's a svg file. I think this is more equivalent to the different stars we have, just a thought. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

## Retouching text on the left side of picture to make it readable when scaled down

Article(s): en:Template:Rational

Request:

That the text on the left-hand side ("Refuting the Central Point", "Refutation", "Counterargument", etc.) be changed to black boldface, rather than the rainbow of colors, in order to make it readable when scaled down. It's actually much more legible right now than the gallery pic would imply; en:Template:Rational shows it where it is now. --Meteor sandwich yum (talk) 08:21, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Done I've changed the coloured text to black and changed the font size from 22 to 26 point. I also changed it from title case to lowercase, so the "responding to tone" line wouldn't be too cramped at the larger size. Rybec (talk) 11:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Wow. You're really great! You finished it (with more than I expected) before I even checked back! Thanks! Meteor sandwich yum (talk) 22:32, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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## Testwiki admin image vectorization or recreation

Article(s): Various userboxes on en and otherwise.

Request:

It would be nice if this image was vectorized. Alternatively, since in the .png the globe is a bit squashed, the picture could be remade with a non-squashed version of the globe (see gallery) and the mop. --APerson (talk) 18:48, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

APerson There is this version Wikipedia logo v2 (black) is this what you want and with the mop? --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

## Flag of Afar

Article(s): numerous

Request:

In 2012, the flag of Afar was modified. Is possible to create an SVG of the new one? And some improvements with the emblem? --Antemister (talk) 10:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Antemister Do you have a good sources for both of them because the early one seems to have some issues also? --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

## Spanish-language version request for File:AeroMexico498 Annotated.jpg

Article(s): es:Vuelo 498 de Aeroméxico

Request:

Please make a Spanish version of the image, using Image:Aeroméxico498 2.jpg as a base. The street names are the same, but "Post office" becomes "Oficina de correos" and "Parking lot" becomes "estacionamiento" --WhisperToMe (talk) 12:36, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

## Request for Chinese versions of File:Mah370path labelled.png

Article(s): zh:马来西亚航空370号班机事故

Request:

I would like for someone to make versions in Traditional and Simplified Chinese

Simplified:

• Beijing: 北京
• Kuala Lumpur: 吉隆坡
• Origin: 起飞地
• Point of Last Contact: 最后联系处

• Beijing: 北京
• Kuala Lumpur: 吉隆坡
• Origin: 起飛地
• Point of Last Contact: 最後聯繫處

--WhisperToMe (talk) 09:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

I'm the author of the original image. I uploaded an unlabeled SVG version of the image (added to gallery) which anyone could work with to have labels in the local language of his or her choice.... (also needs cropping of whitespace). Didn't have an SVG editor on the machine that generated the SVG version.... Sailsbystars (talk) 18:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Someone has made a new English map. Is it possible to make Chinese versions of both the old and new maps? WhisperToMe (talk) 05:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

## Incomplete Flag

Request:

Please add the lion from the Coat of arms to the flag according to [13], and correct the aspect ratios... --Antemister (talk) 11:53, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

## File:Gauss'sche Ebene und Beispiele.svg

Request:

The original author isn't active any more. Therefore, I beg of you.
• Remove the "i"'s in the vertical (imaginary) scale. The axis represents a set of real numbers. See File:GaussZ3.PNG, e.g.
• If possible, please simplify the svg file. (I'm not able to do so.)
• You may save the graphic using an English name like the description above.
• Insert the file into Category:Complex plane and/or Category:Complex numbers.
Thanks in advance! -- Juergen (talk) 15:30, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 18:55, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Juetho How do you want it "simplified", what do you mean by that?
This svg has an image in the background but I will draw that in the svg file insteed so tell me what you want removed, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:03, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Oops, where's an image? I was surprised at the file size, but I can't see any image. It would be enough to see the following items: axises, scales (including "Im" and "Re", without the "i"), grid, unit lines, and vectors (including values). -- Juergen (talk) 19:59, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Actually almost everything you see is an image and then above it the arrows are redrawn and then the colored text added.
I will fix that and let you know. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:19, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh my goodness. An svg file should combine geometric items in a simple way, shouldn't it? What did the original author may think about? I'll wait for your help; don't be in a hurry. -- Juergen (talk) 13:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Juetho Now you can look at this draft and give me feedback.
The grid in the included image didn't have the exact same distances between the values so there is some change to my version.
Once this is approved by you I would need the English name for it and description, I can't see it above.
I also put a white background in the image, if you don't want it just tell me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:56, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank, it looks pretty good. White background is OK.
• Horizontal and vertical distances: I'm not sure, are they equal or different? Equal distances would be better.
• The distances are different but if I change them (to equal), the angel of the colored arrows will be different and is that correct?
• I miss the unit lines: horizontal and vertical at $1$. I prefer a continuous line instead of the dashed lines (color may be the same).
• If you mean by value 1 they are there, I made them some what more visible. Changed the lines.
• Please, use En dash / w:se:Tankstreck as minus sign at each value -- not the w:en:Hyphen / w:se:Bindestreck.
• It was a bit tricky to find it but I think I did.
• Please, use bold text allover the scales (including "Re" and "Im").
• Bold it is.
A suitable name is: "Complex plane (Gauss) with examples", see w:en:Complex plane / w:se:Komplexa tal or the similar File:ComplexaTalplanet-2.svg. The English description doesn't need more explanation than the filename. -- Thanks again! Juergen (talk) 07:27, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I have put in my answers above. Here is a new draft reload the page to get the new, give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:40, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
I suppose there are some missunderstandings.
• Standard cartesian coordinates use the same unit size on each axis. If you stretch the Im-axis, the vectors and angles will be stretched by the same factor. Why not?
• All of the grid lines maybe dashed. Only the lines at value 0 (the axises) and 1 (that I called unit lines) maybe continuous.
Nevertheless, good work! -- Juergen (talk) 14:42, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
This is not a subject I have any deep knowledge in so I went by the original image but now I have changed it to equal distances and the other changes, I hope any way. Just tell me if I misunderstood anything.
Look here and reload the page to get the new and give me feedback. One thing I thought about is that in the formulas there is still the "i" which you told me to remove from the values, is that right? --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:47, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

## File:Simplex description.png

Article(s): en:Simplex algorithm

Request:

Graphist opinion(s):

Done Victor Treushchenko (talk) 15:00, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

## Correcting my logo

Request: Hi. I made this logo but I know it source is not valid.[14] also I need reduce it size for optimizing. can you help me?

Thanx. --Julian-kamal (talk) 11:34, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Done. I basically opened it in Inkscape, saved as Optimized SVG and then fixed the remaining validation errors in Notepad. SiBr4 (talk) 18:20, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

## Transit Signage SVGs

Article(s): en:Toronto Transit Commission (not now)

Request:

Hey! I've tried making the image background transparent, however I think I didn't do it properly, also cropping the photo so it could only be outside the circle. --///EuroCarGT 22:14, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Note: - I think I got it now. --///EuroCarGT 23:43, 13 March 2014 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):