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Vector diagrams for linear patterns of the skin[edit]

Article(s): en:Langer's lines, en:Blaschko's lines, en:Dermatome (anatomy)

I think it would be nice to have standardized vector images for the three common linear patterns of the skin (i.e., Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines, and dermatomes). This article has diagrams of all three of them, but you may want to look at several images for each because there's some variability between different representations.
As far as the styles of the illustrations, the format of side-by-side anterior and posterior views is the most common.
From a scientific standpoint, one important consideration to remember is that Langer's lines represent a vector field of skin tension, while Blaschko's lines and dermatomes are used to demarcate particular segments of skin. In other words, for Langer's lines, the lines themselves are what's important, while for Blaschko's lines and dermatomes, it's the segments of skin between the lines that are important. This should influence the choice of coloring style. I think it's going to be too complicated to accurately color Langer's lines and I haven't found any images attempting it, so those don't need to be colored. For the other two, the segments should be colored (we don't even technically need lines between them if the contrast between the colors is enough to see the boundaries between the segments, but I'll defer to your judgement on that). The unique thing about Blaschko's lines is that they have a directionality to them, from back to front (i.e., wrapping around from spine to navel), from medial to lateral (shoulders to fingers) and from top to bottom (hips to toes). The image here may show the directionality a bit better for the legs. I'm not sure what the best way to show the directionality of the segments will be, but perhaps shading them so the beginning is more saturated than the end. Dermatomes should be filled with color according to the level of the nerves innervating them, as shown here.
Thanks, and happy to discuss further. --Rob Hurt (talk) 00:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)

Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
@Rob Hurt: I will really need your help all the way here. So you want three different images each representing different lines; Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines, and dermatomes. So first we will have to find a body illustration that can be used for them all. After that I will check more into each and will for sure have questions. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Base bodies[edit]

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@Rob Hurt:
@Goran tek-en: No problem. Yes, let's do three separate images. I think that image is good, but it might be nice to have one with feet pointed down so you can see the top and bottom, and with no hair on the head. There are a few sex differences, but let's use a gender-neutral body for simplicity. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt:
  • Will it not be hard to have gender-neutral body when doing Langer's lines (haven't checked for the others), to my understand they are following the topographic of a body.
  • I have started to make SVG version of this file:Human Body.jpg because I thought we could do both woman and man, I know it's more work but will it not be better?
  • For the feet, do you mean like those two: top, bottom. That will mean the bodys will be like floating in the air. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I would be ok with doing either both or gender neutral. In all cases, I'm remembering that these don't need to have the accuracy of a medical textbook, but are more for the public to get a general understanding of the concepts. So I would be inclined to air on the side of simplicity and interpretability even at the cost of some accuracy, but that's just my opinion. And yes, floating in the air like here. --Rob Hurt (talk) 21:05, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Yes, I will not over do it (try to). The image you linked to is that the Langer's lines? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:32, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I certainly appreciate the attention to detail, and I think we'll have to decide what compromises to make. In order, these are Langer's lines, dermatomes, and Blaschko's lines. --Rob Hurt (talk) 16:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Before I continue I want to check how you want the bodies to look. One is lines and one is shaded for the volume (I know, too much details.) Tell me which you want or maybe both because ones I have made the bodies and the three different lines it's quite easy to move between the two versions.
@Goran tek-en: I think these look good, and the shaded one perhaps looks a bit more professional, as long as those colors don't end up conflicting with the colors used for the skin lines. I'm in favor of making the illustrations look professional though. Do you have the back of the body too? --Rob Hurt (talk) 17:30, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Thanks, yes I have back and front back of male also. I will be back when I have done them all (bodies), might take a while. Of course I will see to so the lines will be visible. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt: Now I finally have the drafts for the bodies, sorry it took so long.

We now (if those are fine with you) have to decide how you want the bodies:
1 Standing all four in one image, A
2 Standing all four in one image but half-half bodies so they would become two, like the images you linked to at the top
3 Lying female respectively male in each image, C and D
4 3 but as half-half and then we can have them without an offset
5 Or any other version you want
To really see their real sizes you would have to download them and look at them in a software that tells the level of zoom.
I think like this, most screens are in landscape and I try to keep the height of images to a maximum of 1 000 px. The 1 000 px is something I assume many screens can view (in a browser window) without having to scroll, to view the whole image. To be able to view as much details as possible I try to keep to this. It's always a problem as you don't know how an image will be consumed but the main target here is within an article at wikipedia but I always try to make them work as a free standing image which can be used in different places and circumstances, this is of course impossible but I try.
So give me feed back and we discuss how to set them up, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en: I think these look great, and my preference is A. You're making these as vector images, right, so we can arbitrarily adjust the scaling at any point? The more I think about it, the more I think that we should also have a gender-neutral version, just in case someone ever wants to use these images in a classroom or a news article. --Rob Hurt (talk) 21:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt:
  • Sorry for not being clear, it's SVG I work in, the drafts are PNG due to rendering limitations where I show my drafts.
  • So they can be scaled to what ever one wants. But, this is in theory and technically. From a view point line thickness, spaces, relationship of stuff has to be edited when scaling much, both up and down. It's the same as text, a 20 pt (or px or what you use) sentence which is scaled to e.a. 180 pt has to be edited letter by letter (the distance between them) to look good.
  • A gender-neutral version is something we will have to discuss after female, male is completed. I have some reservations and points of opinion there.
  • Could you link me to a few of the best images you know of regarding Langer's lines, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: I have now uploaded the base bodies as a separate file Female-male front-back 3d-shaded human illustration. Could you please check the information on it and especially the credit part with you. Do you want it in any other way just tell me, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:45, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I think that file looks great, and thanks for crediting me too. I think it could also be worth posting separate versions of the male and female bodies in case someone wants to use only one of them for something specific. --Rob Hurt (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Yeas I think so too, will do in time. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:45, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Look at Female-male front-back 3d-shaded human illustration and Other versions, there are the versions I created. I also think I will create a Gallery for those, I'm learning about it as I intend to create some for "image sets" I have created.
I have made a change which I hope you approve. I made the female and male the same height, this so when they are used they will work well together e.g. Langer's lines. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:20, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Langer's lines[edit]

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Rob Hurt, Could you link me to a few of the best images you know of regarding Langer's lines, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en: Sure, here are a few. I think this, this, this and this ( should be your references because they are based on the experimental data. But for the ease of interpretability, this, this, this, and this are illustrated in a more viewer-friendly way. --Rob Hurt (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I hope you don't get tired of all my questions. I will here describe how I'm thinking around this and if there is something you don't agree with please let me know.
When I look at your linked images and others I searched for, it confuses me. The lines and the patterns they create are so different in the images. The way they follow the body and how. It also varies depending how close (detailed) they show them. So depending on how large, detailed the illustration is the more or less lines are used. It also seems to me that there is not a fix distance between the lines, within a specific illustration, they vary over the body.
To me, the way they are drawn more looks like tattoos than lines following the body.
So I'm thinking like this, imagine you use a string e.g. clothesline with a diameter and you glue that on the body where the lines exist. This also gives me the possibility to show that the lines actually follow the body around the edges to the back.
  • This is the way how I have drawn the drafts. Look at this draft which is in 400% and hopefully you will see what I mean. To me, this looks much better as an illustration but I'm not sure it's acceptable for you.
  • The drafts I will show you (not the final version) will look like those. As always they are PNG but the original file is SVG.
The difference to the final version is that I manually have edited the lines where they go around the body. It's not that visible directly but indirectly it gives you a better illustration, and that you can sense.
I actually would see that we could find a way so that the image size could be like the 200% drafts, but will see. Feedback before I continue, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Do you have the possibility to respond to the above, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:22, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en Just to clarify, you want to decide whether the lines should be 3D and sit on top of the skin like string, or 2D and just mark the surface? I think that 2D would be better, because it makes it clearer that the lines are actually part of the skin itself (even though we can't see them with our eyes). They represent the direction of skin tension which is continuous, so you could draw infinitely many lines to represent it. I think for this purpose we should just make sure that the lines are reasonably accurate, and that we don't put so many that the image has more visual complexity than it needs to. Rob Hurt (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Thanks for your explanation, I will do what you think is best for the purpose of those illustrations. In my "world" (I see most things as an image, which I want to be as beautiful as possible) I would prefer 3D but this request is yours and you know best what you need.
  • Are the number of lines I have in the draft fine or do you want fewer or more? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 21:40, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rob Hurt
Rob Hurt

Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are for proofreading only.

I need you to check if the lines ar OK like this in numbers, shapes etc. Please ignore them sticking out here and there, I will fix that ones you have approved them.
If it's fine with you I would like to do one version lying, like this
Looking at the different existing images confuse me a bit as they are so different in how the lines are drawn, so I had to guess a lot and go by my feeling. Feedback thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:23, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think the density of lines is good, but I might change the color a bit to make them stand out against the skin a bit more. I realize that one of the illustrations (as opposed to the original anatomical images) oversimplified the lines, and they aren't quite right the way you have them. I think this image is the most correct, and I would use that as your guide. You can compare it to the others if you want: if the face is difficult to see in that image, this and this should help, and for the body this may help. You can also find other images, but they should generally agree with the first image. Rob Hurt (talk) 00:05, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
You should check the number of lines and how they are drawn. The color and how visible they are we can fine tune ones they are fine.
Thanks for telling me "which image is the most correct" as all the versions are so confusing, much appreciated.
The ears are difficult in this scale. If you also can accept the lying ones there we have some more room to fine tune if necessary.
The reason I choose to show the lines like this is because you wrote "that the lines are actually part of the skin itself", but as I said this can be changed later.
As the female breasts are drawn differently in the images I have looked at I have two versions for you to look at.
Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.
@Rob Hurt Added a second ear version. Disregard that the lines are "sticking out", that will be fine tuned ones approved.
@Goran tek-en For the breast, I think these lines are the most correct, which is close to what you have in version 2. For the ears, I think we need to fix the base body's anatomy before fixing the lines--can you make it look more like the ear shown here? Rob Hurt (talk) 21:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt You didn't say anything about the other drafts and the lines so I assume that you have approved them.
@Goran tek-en These look good, though I don't think there should be a line on the nipple itself. For the ears, I think we're missing some of the structures (at least antihelix, cymba, cavum, and helix crus), as well as a definition of where the upper part of the tragus meets the helix crus. The rest of the body looks good though. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:03, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I will add as good as I can but we don't have that kind of details for other parts of the body, especially when you consider how big an ear is and in this scale, drafts in 100%. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:56, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt New ear drafts
@Goran tek-en Great, this looks much better. Rob Hurt (talk) 16:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt

@Goran tek-en I think this looks great. Rob Hurt (talk) 23:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Then we can start to decide how the lines should appear, meanwhile I will start with the other versions.
The lines can be in any color, thickness and opacity.
I prefer the "overlay" version as here the appearance of the lines are affected by what the body below looks like, in this way the lines becomes more of a part of the body. The grey lines are like rigid and apart of the body, to me. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think the thickness looks good, and are you saying that the opacity for the overlay is less than the other? Can you do the gray or a black or blue with slightly more transparency? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:16, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rob Hurt

Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.

The ones I call "overlay" is a "Blend mode" between objects on top of each other, it doesn't specifically has to do with opacity. The top object changes its appearance depending on how light/bright the object below it is.
@Goran tek-en I think the lines look great. Now should we consider adding a gender-neutral version as well? For the color, I like the grey 100 the most out of the ones shown because it's very easy to see. The others may look a bit more natural, but for the purposes of a medical illustration like this, I think the most important thing is the information. What do you think? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
1) You are the requester and if you say 50 grey 100 is the best for your purpose then we go for that. We can always add another version if wished.
I will need the following;
  • Name of the file
  • Description (/language)
  • Captions/s (/language)
  • Category/ies at commons
  • Structured data/Items portrayed in this file, the Q#.
to be able to upload it at commons. For the different versions it's mostly the name which changes I guess.
2) Gender-neutral version
This is difficult for me. Please remember that English is not my native language.
  • To me we have female and male genders with all possible variations in between, it's not absolutely female or male, it's all variations in between.
  • To not show what we can (all variations) look like is to me to try to "oppress" or "disregard facts" and trying to influence other human beings.
  • How would a "gender-neutral version" look like, which parts is the problem? I think if you ask all the different cultures, religions, country systems, all other groups etc you would get very different answers. So I guess what would be left is an outline contour with flat fill color and how could one depict Langer's lines on that.
So at this time I will not create a "gender-neutral version" for this purpose. I really hope for your understanding so we can continue with your request here. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en
  • Names: "Langer's lines_male" and "Langer's lines_female" or just "Langer's lines" if you're going to post a version with both
  • Description: Langer's lines represent the direction of skin tension.
  • Caption: Artist's depiction of Langer's lines present in the skin of a human male. -or- Artist's depiction of Langer's lines present in the skin of a human female.
  • Categories: Langer's lines‎
  • Q1591425
I probably should have explained it a bit differently, because we might be talking about two different things. To me, gender-neutral would be the opposite of "all variations in between"--it would actually be the absence of any male/female/in-between information while preserving only the information that is common to both/all (to the best of our ability). This would be done not for the purpose of educating people about gender, but instead for the purpose of educating a wider audience of people about Langer's lines, because there are some contexts in which images like this would be less likely to be used for fear of censorship (I was thinking news articles and some classrooms, though of course not in medical contexts). In those cases, I wanted to give people an option to still use a version that they are comfortable with instead of none at all.
I wanted to explain my view here in case it helps, but if it doesn't resonate with you, then I certainly won't want you to make any illustrations that you disagree with. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt Now you can find them here; Langer's lines‎ 3D shaded true SVG. If you don't see any problems there this part should be ✓ Done

  • For the "gender-neutral version" I'm struggling. If you search for "Androgynous human body illustration" there is not much difference to them and what we have, the genital parts are toned down in the ones we have here already. I do understand your point but to me the people censoring stuff like this is living in a world which I don't want to be a part of. And it will be so hard to decide how to look e.g. would male breasts be fine but not female breasts etc. Can we leave it for now and return later on.

Blaschko's lines[edit]

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Can you give me a short explanation and link to images which you say is representative for what you want. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:02, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en Unlike Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines and dermatomes aren't real lines, but instead the regions of skin between the lines are derived from the same embryonic cell (Blaschko's) or are innervated by the same sensory neurons (dermatomes). This means that there is a correct density of lines for both, unlike for Langer's lines. I think this and this are the best images, but here is another. For dermatomes we definitely will want to shade the skin in between lines like here, and technically the same would be appropriate for Blaschko's lines, but we can decide if that will be too visually overwhelming or not. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Thanks, why are the lines/areas different left and right side of the belly part in the front view? Should they not be more similar? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en That's to demonstrate that the lines are slightly different for each person because of stochasticity during embryonic development--it's actually the same phenomenon that causes stripes on zebras, spots on cats, etc. which aren't identical from one individual to the next and aren't perfectly symmetrical within an individual. In general they should follow the same pattern on both sides, but there is some randomness. Rob Hurt (talk) 23:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Before I continue I want to check this with you.
  • If you want areas here instead of lines we have to decide that now as it's two completely different ways of drawing and I also want to check if the lines I have here are correct.
@Goran tek-en Yes those lines look good. As for the areas, if we're going to do it, I think we should make all the areas colored/shaded, rather than some shaded and some not, like you have it. The question is how we want to do the coloring/shading. One option would be to have them all the same color, but different shades. Another option would be to have them different colors, like here. But graphic design isn't my specialty, so can you think of any other options we have? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt The colored version has another meaning to me, each color show something different than the other colors according to the legend. I think we should try shades ones they are all drawn. But a Blaschko pattern on a human being is a darker color and usual skin color around it. I will do the drawings now, might take a while. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I just want you to know that it will be a bit longer before I'm back as I have a difficult period with myself, but I will be back. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en No problem, take your time, and I hope that everything is ok with you. Rob Hurt (talk) 17:03, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob HurtHi Rob, I'm back (not 100% but enough) and I have picked up the drawing.
To do each field for blaschko so it can be filled separately is very complex to draw, and with four views it's really a lot.
So I hope we (mainly you) can think again if we need all fields to be able to fill them individually or maybe we can do something like this and we can also make separate version with just lines if you like. But having one version were just a few fields are filled will be much easier on me. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. For the drawings, I think it should be fine to only shade in a few sections. Rob Hurt (talk) 17:20, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rob Hurt Here you have to check if those lines a good for Blaschko. Don't think about lines sticking out, will fix that later.

Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.

Draft-1 100%
Draft-1 200% --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en I think these look good. The only minor question I have is whether it's possible to make the lines look like they attach to the skin better, following folds on the body such as the chest, armpits, and groin better. But if this is hard, it's not necessary. Other than that, we'll just have to play around with the line thickness and color to make them more visible, and decide whether we want the shading inside to be translucent or opaque. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:03, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I can try to make them follow the actual body more, now I have followed the different images you showed me so I didn't know that they should be like that, but when I think about it, of course. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:10, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt If those drafts not are good you will have to tell me more specifically what you want or even better show me an example.
@Goran tek-en I think the thing I'm noticing is that when the lines wrap around the sides of certain raised structures such as the trachea, breast, and knee, they should follow the contour of the structure rather than continuing straight undisturbed. But this is a minor stylistic point, so we don't need to spend too much time on it, especially if it's difficult. Can you also experiment with the line color/thickness/opacity to make them slightly more visible? Rob Hurt (talk) 17:50, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
  • I'm trying to do this but what is strange to me is that all the sources you provided do not have lines that follow body structures, draft-3 200%.
  • Yes we have to start thinking of the lines and the colored areas.
    • Do you want them to look like the Langers's lines?
    • Same visibility but another color, which?
    • Should the areas have the same color as the lines or other, which? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en Yes I agree that the other illustrations don’t do a very good job of it. So whatever you can do is ok with me. Yes, I think the lines for Langer’s lines looked good, and the shading could I guess be the same color. Rob Hurt (talk) 04:26, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.
@Goran tek-en These both look good, but I think I prefer the gray one slightly. In terms of which regions to shade, I realized that we should probably include some of the most common ones involved in disease, which would be areas on the chest, back, and forehead/scalp, so maybe we just use the ones shaded in this image. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt For the chest/front, we don't have that middle line dividing it left-right as the red image you linked to. Should I add a center line in the front views? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 09:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Grey-2 100% --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 10:33, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en That's a good point, and we don't want the shading going all the way across the chest--only half. In reality, the way I understand it, there's no hard line running down the middle of the front--instead the cells start growing and migrating from the spine, then wrap around the sides and meet each other in the middle of the front. So if the cells on one side are growing a bit faster than the other, that patch could cross the midline slightly, but this is independent for each Blaschko's patch. Considering this, I think we shouldn't draw any lines down the middle, but still only shade one half of the body at a time. Also, for the forehead, could you move the shading over by one so it only goes down to the eyebrow? Rob Hurt (talk) 17:06, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Grey-3 100% --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think this looks great. Rob Hurt (talk) 17:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Can you give me the information which is general for all the different versions (like we did on langers).
  • I will need the following;
    • Name of the file
    • Description (/language)
    • Captions/s (/language)
    • Category/ies at commons
    • Structured data/Items portrayed in this file, the Q#, to be able to upload it at commons, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:32, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Just want to check with you so you have seen that I need information from you as above, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:32, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rob Hurt I haven't heard from you in a while so now I have uploaded the Blaschko files and you can find them here: Blaschko's lines, patterns 3D shaded true SVG

  • I had to guess some for description and so. It would be great if you could check and let me know if there is anything that needs to be changed.
  • So if this is done what is the third type of illustrations you want? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:11, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en sorry for the delay, but yes those look good and I'll probably make a few minor edits to the metadata.


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The last type of illustration would be dermatomes, which do have a very specific and consistent structure to how they are arranged, and are separated into C, T, L, and S subsets. There are some vector images here already, but they're cartoonish and not very accurate. Can you use this and this image as your guides to overlay onto the base bodies you have? Rob Hurt (talk) 01:04, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rob Hurt There are at least two different ways to label them according to your links, how do you want it labeled?
We can also do a numbered version and the text can be in the description field? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:59, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en For the labeling, the two different ways you're referring to are either labeling them on the body or labeling them on the side and color-coding the labels? I think I prefer them on the body--even though it looks a bit more cluttered, it makes it much easier to see which is which. But if you have another opinion artistically, let me know. Rob Hurt (talk) 22:03, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
This draft is a PNG version of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
This draft is shown for proofreading only.
Want to check before I continue.
Two things; the face has no code on it, T 1 where the arm meets the chest. There is a small area also T1, is that correct?
Dermatomes-1. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:07, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en Thanks for checking--the face is here, and here is a better image of the arms. Rob Hurt (talk) 16:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt As always, when I check different images they are not the same so really check everything, there are a couple of areas to which I couldn't find code. Draft-2. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:48, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think these look good. The ones labeled XX are C8, T1 and the ones labeled YY are C5, 6. For the colors, it seems like the ones used from the shoulders up are a different, more muted color scheme. Was that intentional? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:18, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I just took the colors from your image, I have now changed them and some others so it will work as well as it can for people with color deficiencies, draft-3. Check everything. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think this looks great for the front. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt When I look at the two images you linked to, this and this there are some differences (to me anyway) between front and back. I have to draw the areas/lines so front and back actually will meet and continuous around the side of the body.
  • Back has T1, C4,5,6 (shoulders height) which front do not, should there be a difference, if not which to follow?
  • Same with the leg, back image: L1,2 and L2,3. I can't understand how they could run around the body and meet as the front image looks like, which to follow?
They also have different for the same coded fields back-front but I will change that. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en It's a bit tricky, and different diagrams show them differently. There's also some variability from one person to another. For the neck and shoulders, let's follow this. For the legs, I think those actually make sense to me. For L1,2, you can see how those originate from the spinal cord on the back and wrap around the outside of the hip to the front. And look at where L2 and L3 come out of the spinal cord on the back and the large sliver that they create together on the back, as well as the L2,3 patch on the back inside of the left knee--does that make it easier to see how the front L2,3 wraps around both sides to the back? --Rob Hurt (talk) 16:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Yes it's really tricky because now this new "neck shoulders" image doesn't look the same as the front svg image and it depends on how the arms are rotated... I will do my best and then you have to look at them, I also have to go back to the front view and change in that. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Now I'm so confused you have to check those, both front and back. I still can't really see the lines going round legs and arms but it doesn't matter as long as you are happy. This draft is a mix of all the images you have told me to look at, feedback thanks. Draft woman front back 1 --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:01, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think the front looks good, and the back does too except for the arms. This is really what we want to use for the arms. I gave you this for the neck and shoulders, but it doesn't have the arms the way we want. Does it make sense, or are there discrepancies you see?
Also, are the colors used for the head and neck the same palette as the rest of the body? They seem like they're a different shade, but I might be wrong. --Rob Hurt (talk) 03:08, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
The different images we work from doesn't have the same set up of areas so this draft is a mix of all the images, woman back front 2
Here is an image with numbers which refers to the questions below.
1. Generally I don't understand the areas which has multiple code on them e.a. C 8, T 1?
If it's correct and complicated to explain you don't have to.
2. How can C 8 just appear in a separate area without having contact with the other C 8 area?
3. If the front view has this area C 6,7,8 should it not also be on the back view?
4. To me those fields doesn't meet when moving from front to back?
5. This area just ends/disappears when going round back to front?
6. This is S 1,2 on the back but L 5, S 1,2 on the front, correct?
7. L 1 in front is so divided into more fields in the back? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:36, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en Four general points to start: first, the diagrams aren't exact down to the centimeter, and there's variability among individuals in terms of which nerves innervate which patches of skin, and sometimes multiple nerve fibers can innervate the same patch; second, some diagrams show the developmental innervation and some show the clinical innervation, and the maps were also determined in different ways throughout medical research history, so that's why there can be differences; third, even though all the nerves exit from the spinal cord, they can surface anywhere, so the patches of skin don't have to be connected in any particular way. Nerves can also branch, and depending on where that happens, it can lead to areas that are innervated by the same nerve that aren't next to each other; fourth, we don't always expect patches to wrap from front to back--each patch has a line separating it from its neighbors, and sometimes those lines can occur on the sides of the body and aren't shown in the diagrams. This should help with the hands, and you can look at A and B of this to refine the legs, but you'll see that some of the boundaries are on the side of the leg. Let me know if you have more questions. Rob Hurt (talk) 02:08, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I haven't understood that the areas originated from nerves, that explains a lot. I believed that it was areas on the surface of the skin, so now I understand more your points, thanks.
New drafts and the codes I don't have is marked X1 etc. draft front back. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hakdohogukdan (lit. Student National Defense Corps). Would you like to check out the the flags too?[edit]

Article(s) : Flag for Hakdohogukdan (Student National Defense Corps, 1949 ~ 1960)[edit]

Flag for Hakdohogukdan (Student National Protection Corps, 1949 ~ 1960) (1), (2). (3) (4) (5)

Korean: 6·25전쟁에 자진 참전한 학도호국단의 깃발이다. 학도호국단의 대표적인 전투로는 포항여중 전투가 있다. 청색 바탕의 천 중앙에 적색 선의 사각형이 있고, 그 안에 독수리 문양과 태극문양을 합친 형탱에 적색으로 '학도호국대'라는 글자가 새겨져 있다. 학생을 상징하는 펜촉이 2개 그려져 있다.

English: The caption reads: it is a flag from Hakdohogukdan during the Korean War. They are known for their participation in Pohang Girls' Middle School. It is made of blue cloth with a red-perimeter square. Within, there is an image of Eagle and Taeguk. Under, it is written in red "Hakdohogukdae". And behind the crest, two pen nibs are placed to symbolize the students.

Article(s) : Flag for Hakdohogukdan (Student National Defense Corps, 1949 ~ 1960)
날짜 표제어
1959-04-22 대한민국학도호국단창립10주년기념식전경
1959-04-22 대한민국학도호국단창립10주년기념식전경1
1959-11-27 1959년 11월 27일 신의주 학생 14주년을 기념하는 제3회 반공학생의 날 행사가 중앙학도 호국단 주최로 열리고 있다.

Korean: 해당 사진 속 디자인을 바탕으로 현존하는 "학도호국대 깃발" 색을 더해 재구성해주세요.
English: Please kindly refer to the color schemes from the link and caption that I cited above. It is highly probable that the symbols captured in the photos are following the same style. some of the flags include a white textbox to have their school names written. those cases seem to be improvised from local schools as none of the publicized images of the flag add such customisation.--고려 (talk) 12:07, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Article(s) : Flag for Hakdohogukdan (Student National Defense Corps, 1975 ~ 1986)[edit]

Article(s) : Flag for Hakdohogukdan (Student National Defense Corps, 1975 ~ 1986)
날짜 표제어
????-??-?? 밴드 커버 사진을 변경했습니다.
????-??-?? 고2 시절. 교련 검열 및. 학도호국단
1975-06-26 학도호국단 단기 (동아일보)
1975-06-26 학도호국단 단기 결정 (부산일보)
1975-06-30 서울대학교학도호국단발단식 (화질 좋은 흑백 버전), (파랑색 바탕의 깃발).
1975-06-30 서울대학교학도호국단발단식8
1975-07-02 서울특별시학도호국단발단식관계자호국단기전달1
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단 발대식 선서
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단 발단식에서 태극기와 중앙학도호국단 깃발을 들고 사열해있는 학생들
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단발단식1
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단발단식1
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단발단식2
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단발단식4
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단발단식5
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단발단식8
1975-09-02 김종필국무총리중앙학도호국단발단식참석기수렴
1975-??-?? 경북 학도 호국단 발단식(1975)
1975-09-02 중앙학도호국단발단식참석관계자에게중앙학도호국단기전달
1975-09-02 서울특별시학도호국단창단2주년기념교련합동사열식4
1976-06-24 학도호국단 1주년 기념식
1976-09-01 중앙학도호국단 창설 1주년을 맞아 국립묘지를 참배하는 호국단 간부들과 유기춘 문교부 장관
1977-04-26 충무공탄신기념서울특별시학도호국단도보행군출발4
1977-09-28 제29주년국군의날기념식리허설중앙학도호국단모습

Korean : 새로 만들어진 학도호국단기는 서울대 미대 김교만교수가 도안한 것으로 단기는 가로 120㎝, 세로 80㎝의 크기에 중앙 및 시도학도호국단은 갈색, 대학 및 전문학교는 청색, 고교는 녹색 바탕에 태극매 책 펜 칼 방패둥이 그려져있다. 글씨는 노랑이다. 태극은 대한민국을 상징하고,매는 악마를 쫓고,정의를 수호하며,용맹을 나타내고 책과 펜은 면학과 학도를,칼은 무기,방패는 조국수호를 상징한다.
A new design for English : the flag for Hakdohogukdan was proposed by Kim Gyoman, professor of Art at Seoul National University. The details of the flag is following: 120cm length and 80cm width with golden letters, central and municipal/metropolitan Hogukdan (lit. National Defense Corps) use brown field, university/vocation school Corps employ blue one, and high school Corps with green one The crest is made of Taeguk, an Eagle, books, pens, a sword, and a shield; which has following means: Taeguk for Republic of Korea itself, An eagle as a valiant symbol against the wickedness and protection of the righteous, stationery for education and the students, while the sword and the shield stands for being armed for national protection.

Korean : 3,4번 그림이 당시 뉴스에 보도가 되긴 했으나 실제로 삶에서 사용되었는지는 확인이 안됨. 오히려 8번이 자주 사용된것으로 확인됨. 이미지를 만든다면 후자를 쓰세요. '학도호국단'이라는 글자만 기본 명입니다. 다른 예시는 헷갈릴수 있어요 "휘문고등학교" 같은건 말그대로 학교 이름이니 벡터 이미지에 쓰지 말아주세요.를 보시면 이름 붙이는 방법이 이렇다는 걸 알수 있음. 문교부에 설치하는 학도호국단은 이를 “중앙학도호국단”, 교육위원회에 설치하는 학도호국단은 이를 “시도학도호국단”, 대학 및 고등학교에 설치하는 학도호국단은 이를 “학교(대학ㆍ고등학교)학도호국단”이라 각각 칭한다.
English : It is clear that both figure ③, ④ are featured and broadcasted by the contemporary news. However, the design is yet to be confirmed to be seen used in the real life. It is rather probable that the figure ⑧ was used instead from those collection of photos. Please make use of the latter for the design. But do note that only "학도호국단 (lit. Student National Defense Corps)" part is the basic insignia. Other examples might be misleading (e.g. 휘문고등학교학교호국단 stands for Hymen High School Student National Defense Corps, which cannot be used for a basis for vectorized examples). From this link (, we can see that the naming convention of Hogukdan uses the following rules: Hakdohogukdan that are raised by the Ministry of Education is named "Jongang Hakdohogukdan (lit. Central...)", subordinates to the municipal/metropolitan Office of Education apparatus is named "Si/Do Hakdohogukdan (lit. Metropolitan/Municipal...)", and Corp that is formed from universities and high schools are named "Hakkyo (Daehak/Godeung) Hakdohogukdan (lit. School name (Univ./High)...". --고려 (talk) 08:31, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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고려 Right now I want to be clear with that by writing here I do not take this request at this time.
You have written a very structured request(s) with lots of information which is great, so I feel that you deserve some kind of feedback on it.
I'm a graphic worker here and this is my personal thoughts on your request;

  • You haven't linked to the article that you intend to use those flags in, I would like to see it.
  • It's very extensive, what I can estimate up to 30 flags.
  • You have structured the information very well which is helpful, but still it's a lot of information and for someone not knowledgeable of the subject it's very hard to really get a grip of it all.
  • For me it's hard to see which peace of information is to which flag and for what purpose.
  • I have looked at some of your links and what I have seen so far many are of poor quality (very hard to see what each flag really looks like) and might also be a subject of copyright. If something has a copyright I might be able to use it as information but not to draw from.
  • There is so much detailed information that I don't understand the bigger overall picture of what you want and how they would look. What I can see this is about flags from South Korea and regarding the Student Corps.
  • If you want my help (maybe) on this we would have to discuss this much more and I would need your help all the way through this and it will take some time. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of the New England New State Movement[edit]

Article(s): New England New State Movement

Could someone please create an SVG file of the flag used by the old New England New State Movement (which campaigned for statehood in the New England region of New South Wales, Australia), as seen here. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 14:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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This looks like a rather complicated graphic design. Do you have any proofs to show if this flag is created anonymously / pseudo-anonymously prior to 1955, or if the author who designed this flag had deceased before 1955? I know this is a modified version of the Scottish Lion flag, but the lions look visually quite different, so I am hesitant to pull it in for Commons. -- (talk) 18:04, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done – It looked more like the Finnish lion to me than the Scottish lion, what with the sword and crown and very long tongue (even though I don't think it was an intentional callback to it) so I sketched a flag with that lion as a basis. It's not pretty but neither is the original image TBH; while it would be nice from a historic perspective to match the shapes exactly, as already stated copyright law may not allow that (but recreating across the blazon-emblazon divide is almost always allowed). Lemme know if the intent of the aspect ratio for the original is known, I just went for approximately 2:3 for now. Arlo James Barnes 23:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Arlo Barnes: That's fine, and thanks very much for your help. Although, while we're here, I can't help but ask that perhaps two minor modifications could be made to the lion:
  1. Is there any chance that the blade from the sword above could be replaced with the one from this sword template here (but without changing the hilt), as I think it would match the shape of the blade from the link more accurately?
  2. Also, would there be any chance that the crown on the lion's head be replaced with the one displayed on this shield here (albeit with the middle "point" removed), as I think that would be a more accurate representation of the crown from the link?
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 13:54, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Logo competition for the Content Partnerships Hub[edit]

Dear all

Wikimedia Sverige are working to establish a Content Partnerships Hub. This is a proposed Wikimedia hub to support affiliates and volunteers who are interested in working with partners across the world, the initiative is based on the Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Recommendations. This could include mass uploading content to Commons, introducing chapters and user groups to new partners or helping them design projects. We have just started our first mass upload project on Wikimedia Commons and have uploaded more than 1.8 million SDC statements about Wiki Loves Monuments to more than a million files to get a greater impact from our events.

Now, we need your help! We want to express the essence of the hub through a logo that can be used both during the test phase and when the Hub hopefully is launched full-scale in the near future

You can find out more about the hub and the work we do here

The logo will be used on the hub portal as well as in internal and external communication.

When the competition ends, Wikimedia Sverige will pick and announce the winner of the competition. The winner will get to pick an item of their choice from the Wikipedia Store.

Please share your designs below in svg format and add them to Category:Content_Partnerships_Hub_logo_competition. May 16th is the last day to submit your design.

Many thanks

John Cummings (talk) 08:24, 12 April 2022 (UTC) (Wikimedia Sverige)[reply]

I didn't know how to visualize "Content" or "Partnerships", so I focused on the "Hub" part instead. :)
Hub logo suggestions.svg
To encourage participation: If one of my designs gets chosen, the reward shall go to the runner-up. TilmannR (talk) 16:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not a bad start for the logos. However, there will be a number of hubs in the end, so a generic hub logo probably won't be the best choice. - Fuzheado (talk) 12:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Late submission to avoid you looking too lonely here. (talk) 17:02, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@: Face-smile.svg Thank you. TilmannR (talk) 19:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@: these are great, if you have any other ideas please do post them :) John Cummings (talk) 18:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@: and @TilmannR: thanks so much for your designs, we have decided to extend the deadline for another 10 days to encourage more contributions. Thanks again, John Cummings (talk) 12:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I made a proposal which can have a lot of variations on the theme, I only uploaded 6 version, but as you see the ideas could be combined or changed if preferred. I chose to go with just a box to represent content since it can be almost anything. And this could be the package the content comes shipped in. Variations with one or three boxes (in two configurations). The single box is a bit cleaner, but the three illustrates that content is modular better. Then I borrowed the idea from TilmannR with spokes in the hub, trying to find an idea that could be generic for all hubs, where the actual hubs' logo goes in the middle. Obviously these are bit detailed so in very small sizes (a favicon for instance) I suggest dropping the spokes completely and in the tripple box versions the boxes could also be switched for simple hexagons.

Content partnership hub logo 1-a.svg Content partnership hub logo 1-b.svg Content partnership hub logo 2-a.svg Content partnership hub logo 2-b.svg Content partnership hub logo 3-a.svg Content partnership hub logo 3-b.svg

-- Ainali (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

East India Company's Coat of Arms (1600 - 1709)[edit]

Article(s): en:East India Company

I request someone to please create vector image for Older Coat of Arms of East India Company used between 1600 and 1709.
There already is a vectorised image for the Later Coat of Arms used during most of 18th and 19th century, until the company was defunct. Here are some of the sources that might help - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Soap Boy 1 (talk) 21:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Soap Boy 1: Is this any better? -- (talk) 21:49, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flag-map of Southern Africa in 1968[edit]


Please create a SVG version. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 20:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Banners for these Coat Of Arms[edit]

Article(s): en:Principality of Arbanon - en:Principality of Muzaka - en:Principality of Dukagjini

I Need their coat of arms made into banners. Thank you! --Arberian2444 (talk) 02:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Arberian2444, do you have official / reliable sources to show what their flags look like? -- (talk) 03:38, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It should be on the pages of the each article. The photos of the coat of arms takes you to a reliable source. If not there should be a description of the the coat of arms and hopefully where they got it from. I just need them these coat of arms to be made into banners.Arberian2444 (talk) 06:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Arberian2444: I can tell that all coat of arms are backed by reliable sources. My inquiry is just for the flags — I was searching online for things like "Arbanon flags", but all I got were "arbanon coat of arms" everywhere, with maybe a few fan-made flags here and there. -- (talk) 15:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:痛I Mean Its similiar what they did for the bosnian coat of arms someone turned them into a banner. I just want the same thing done for these coat of arms :). Because it would kinda be impossible for a banner to survive this long in real life to have evidence. Arberian2444 (talk) 17:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Arberian2444: Understandable. However, as you can see from the "flags made of ready-made elements" request below, one cannot always predict what a flag looks like from their coat of arms. While I can always draw a single-colored rectangle and put these bird animals in the middle, it is ultimately considered original research. I just did another research but still couldn't find any sources online... maybe some other graphists here who understand Albanian can do a better search through books. -- (talk) 23:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks anyways! Arberian2444 (talk) 02:25, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ and Arberian2444:
  • for Principality of Arbanon, I've found: [5] (please see 2nd image), [6], [7]
and also in Commons: AL.XX.AB.gif
  • for Principality of Muzaka, I've found: [8] (in [9])
and also in Commons: Flag of the Bajrak of Kashnjeti (1878).svg Coat of arms Muzaka family.png Coat of arms of the Muzaka Family.svg
  • for Principality of Dukagjini, I've found: [10] (in [11]) (and proposals of what could have been such a flag: [12], [13])
and also in en:File:Dukagjini.svg
yours, En rouge (talk) 21:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]



Request to convert Fig 1 to a vectorized version. There's also Fig 3, is Fig 2 wearing Fig 1's costume. --Thyj (talk) 10:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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flags made of ready-made elements[edit]

Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Please, someone vectorize flags, coats of arms contain useful elements. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 14:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@Swiãtopôłk: Looks like we are all finished here! -- (talk) 18:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, you have done even more than I asked. Although you could write what you need. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwanese aboriginal flags[edit]

Article(s): en:List_of_Chinese_flags#Cultural_flags

Please add these four flags. I can't say which bar pattern of Malan flag is more popular, but both are in use. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 22:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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A new Wikidata item example to improve representation[edit]

Article(s): Any number of Wikidata trainings (like this one)

Request: Hi everyone - I teach Wikidata courses for Wiki Education. We've been relying on this Douglas Adams example of a Wikidata item in our training modules for a few years now. As great of an example as this is, it perpetuates the demographic the white, male demographic bias of Wikidata. In an effort to address that, we're making our examples more diverse and focusing on underrepresented communities. Having other examples to choose from would be wonderful. I have a great example item to use, but I don't have the ability to create an SVG file. I've mocked it up as a PNG and uploaded it to Commons. Would anyone be willing to create a similar SVG file that follows the formatting of the Douglas Adams item, but tailor it to the details for Benjamin Frey (linked here)? I think the descriptions as columns in the Douglas Adams example are easier to read. We'll be using this in our training (and anyone will be able to use it as well) so it's important to have it as an SVG so the text remains crisp and readable across devices and screen sizes.

Thanks so much in advance. Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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