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Ukrainian general staff brigade insignia[edit]

Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Designism (talk) 03:37, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article(s): 101st Brigade for the Protection of the General Staff

Please make a new SVG file for the insignia of the Ukrainian 101st Brigade for the Protection of the General Staff based on the design of the sleeve insignia and the modern cap badge.
The present file leaves much to be desired and is not representative of what the insignia actually looks like, in contrast to most of our comparable files for other brigades. Images of the present-day sleeve insignia in use can be seen here in full colour and low-visibility variants. (Close-up of the patch here; of the real cap-badge here.) A simplified greyscale design appears on their Facebook here. The existing coat of arms image also lacks the brickwork background. GPinkerton (talk) 18:01, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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@GPinkerton: here you go. (talk) 08:11, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GPinkerton: Actually, when I look at this flag image, the correct insignia should not include any brick pattern? -- (talk) 17:43, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@: Hi, that looks great! I think a flag from 2014 shouldn't override what we see in the sleeve patches themselves, especially as Ukrainian military heraldry has been revolutionized over the course of the Russo-Ukrainian War. What I was hoping to see was a more simplistic design which would be basically two-dimensional like the sleeve patch shield. Something like File:81 ОАеМБр к.svg or File:1 ОТБр.svg by Inkscape'r. The helmet looks much better now, but I'd like to see a simple shield with flatter rendering of the poleaxes and gauntlet which you have done a great job in vectorizing. GPinkerton (talk) 05:50, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, real-life stuff is keeping me busy. I encourage other graphists in this workshop to take a look at this. (talk) 13:11, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perhaps @VileGecko: can be of help? GPinkerton (talk) 16:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright, I take this patch - it's been on my to-do list for some time. I think I'll be able to complete this sometime within the next week. VileGecko (talk) 16:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
✓ Done Here are the full-color and the subdued versions of the patch. VileGecko (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GPinkerton: Better? -- (talk) 02:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GPinkerton: I see that these files are actively in use across a few Wikimedia projects. Given that it has been over 2 months since you last replied to this thread, I am marking this as done. --Designism (talk) 03:37, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ and VileGecko: Thanks all, good work. I'm not sure the text label with ZSU on it is entirely necessary, but it's much better than before. GPinkerton (talk) 13:05, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The tab was used before the 2019 wave of military unit insignia rebranding. As the 101st Brigade's patch was essentialy a proper coat of arms since 2008 it was just modified a bit recently to fit into the new unit patch scheme. In short: the tab was used pre-2019 and is dropped now. If a unit chooses a motto for itself a completely new tab with the motto may appear sometime in the future but there isn't one now. VileGecko (talk) 13:43, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@VileGecko: maybe it (the tab) should be removed from our images, since it's not specific to this brigade. GPinkerton (talk) 20:40, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GPinkerton: I'd rather leave it with the tab or alternatively upload a separate version without the tab. While the text on the tab indeed is just "Armed Forces of Ukraine" I don't think I've ever seen any other units wearing this tab. Also should be noted that while modern motto tabs are worn immediately adjacent to the shield or even embroidered on the same piece of cloth this older 101st Brigade tab has been worn significantly higher than the main patch, an example: Файл:Федорченко Вадим Олександрович.jpg. VileGecko (talk) 11:53, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@VileGecko: to me that sounds like an argument for removing it: its appearance is misleading if the tab was/is meant to be so far from the shield and invites confusion with those units which actually do have something just above the shield (like the 24th mechanized or the 44th artillery brigade). For most brigades, just the shield alone is used and it would be good to have an equivalent file for the 101st; the tab means the whole image is larger and the shield therefore smaller and more indistinct. The whole idea is of course that the shield alone, at first glance, tells you a soldier's affiliation. I think the same rule holds good for infoboxes and the like. GPinkerton (talk) 12:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Royal Standards of the consorts of the Stuart monarchs[edit]

Article(s): Royal Standard of the United Kingdom and List of United Kingdom flags.

Alright, I know this is a rather tall order, but could someone please create SVG files of all the Royal Standards (or at least as many of them as possible) used by the individual consorts of the various monarchs of the House of Stuart, based on their arms provided above. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 17:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 09:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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House flag of British Tanker Company[edit]

Article(s): en:British Tanker Company w:BP Shipping

Please add the flags of British Tanker Company. [1]
  1. House flag of British Tanker Company (1915-1927)
  2. House flag of British Tanker Company (1927-1955)
  3. House flag of British Tanker Company (1955-1968 and 1984-1989)
  4. House flag of BP Tanker Company (1968-1984) stay consistent with the logo, ie the dark green color
  5. House flag of BP Tanker Company (1989-2000) stay consistent with the logo, i.e. italics

Swiãtopôłk (talk) 15:19, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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  1. 1 Ok
  2. 2 Red and green are OK, but the lion would get from me #e1ed03, it would be best to recreate the original contours, but if it is impossible, this drawing can be left, only with the added tongue and tail closer to the body. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 22:31, 11 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For #2 at that time the company was anglo-iranian. So, I take elements and colors from Flag of England.svg and Safavid Flag.svg. Orange color is the one for lion on flag for Safavid and Pahlavi dynasties (green and orange colors was taken from the Safavid flag, the lion design was also adapted from this same flag). If you look at the logo Bp logo1961.png, given for (1968-1984), the color is orange... Moreover, your proposed color, #e1ed03, is a
greenish yellow
not really appropriate. To be continued...
#4: This flag seems not to exist. The only pictures I found are only the given logo (i.e. this logo on a white background).
#5: I don't know if this flag exists or not. I've only found this logo on a same green background (often a square design), but no real flag.
If not existing, deletion will be requested for these two last flags. Please, provide a source.
En rouge (talk) 19:19, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@En rouge: I chose this non-standard color because it is present in all images (I think it's because the green underneath shows through) also the dressing of the lion seems to be cohesive [2] [3], This [4] is a link to the official PDF describing the history of the flag, it was one of my sources when I wrote the note, but I haven't opened it in a long time and since Sunday my internet is slower and the PDF won't load. There is #2 but clearly longer than in the photo of the physical flag and I think it's a graphic mistake. If you see any other differences in the PDF compared to what I've provided before, then suggest PDF, it's possible that I rushed the approvals #1. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 21:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Swiãtopôłk: I'll talk here about yellow color, in #2 only (but other important info still to go, about #xx later...)
You wrote that your non-standard color is present in all images, but you only link to one image (image zoomed from another, the latter full flag image more appropriate as much in context):
From you link [5] (and [6] which is part of it), you can see that zoomed lion is not the same color as in the entire flag picture. In the full image, the lion is more orang-ish (and even in the zoomed image the green is out of reality, regarding full scope image).
Here are some links to flags I found:
  • [7] first flag on top: almost yellow/orang-ish lion, but others mostly orange or brown
  • [8] (brown)
  • [9] (brown)
  • and, on Commons, Flag of Persia (1964, with fringe).jpg, Qajar Naval Ensign.svg, War Flag of Fath Ali Shah.svg,
And ere are two flags, but fake flying flags I suppose, supposedly based on flags from Commons:
I still maintain, as an argument, that in Bp logo1961.png, color yellow in fact is... orange
(and in your sample pdf file, red seems to be inappropriate for #1; this can induce suspicion about color fidelity).
Yours, En rouge (talk) 02:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
PS: why don't you provide all the material you have, for the graphists to have more information?
From one video I found in BP web site, for #2 I'll modify orange to a yellow one. To be continued.
@En rouge: Sorry I haven't written back in a month
#4: confirms the pdf
#5: It's a generic company flag, you can see it here. It is still necessary to add a white box and remove the black outline.
#2: The appearance of the lion is very similar on the two flags, I think it's better to recreate the original, rather than using a drawing from a modern interpretation of another flag. Greenish yellow may not have been the best idea, use a light shade whose HTML abbreviation doesn't end in 00.
Swiãtopôłk (talk) 15:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Burgees of Cornwall[edit]

Article(s): List of Cornish flags, List of United Kingdom flags and List of yacht clubs.

Alright, I know this may be a bit of a tall order, but could someone please create SVG files for the burgees used by the following Cornish yacht and sailing clubs (or even as many of them as possible):

1) Burgee of Cargreen Yacht Club, as seen here.

2) Burgee of Helford River Sailing Club, as seen here.

3) Burgee of Looe Sailing Club, as seen here.

4) Burgee of Mount's Bay Sailing Club, as seen here.

5) Burgee of Padstow Sailing Club, as seen here.

6) Burgee of Penzance Sailing Club, as seen here.

7) Burgee of Port Navas Yacht Club, as seen here.

8) Burgee of Quay Sailing Club, as seen here.

9) Burgee of Restronguet Sailing Club, as seen here (the middle one).

10) Burgee of Saltash Sailing Club, as seen here.

Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 23:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Snow Lion Fenian: All these flags have complex flag designs. Please submit evidence that properly demonstrates these flag designs fit in UK's public domain (who designed it, when, and the age of death of the vexillologist if applicable), or none of us will be able to work on any of them. -- (talk) 23:51, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vectorize the heraldic badge of the Football Association[edit]

Article(s): en:Coat of arms of the Football Association, etc.

Please vectorize the heraldic badge of the Football Association, blazoned:

A representation of the Football Association Cup encircled by a chaplet of olive leaves proper

The badge is visible beneath the coat of arms on plate № 3a of Phillips, David Llewelyn (Spring 2015). "Badges and 'Crests': The Twentieth-century Relationship Between Football and Heraldry". The Coat of Arms, the Journal of the Heraldry Society XI part 1 (229): 35–50. The trophy should of course closely resemble the actual FA cup as much as possible in outline shape. GPinkerton (talk) 18:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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@GPinkerton: here you go. (talk) 23:32, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@: pretty good, thanks. I wonder if you could do a bit more detail on the cup; your work on that gauntlet at Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop#Ukrainian general staff brigade insignia leads me to believe you can do even better. Otherwise it could be left as is, since it meets the blazon just as well. GPinkerton (talk) 13:08, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Flag of the Church of St Margaret, Westminster Abbey[edit]

Article(s): St Margaret's, Westminster, List of English flags and List of United Kingdom flags.

Can someone please create an SVG file of the flag of the Church of St Margaret, Westminster Abbey, as seen here and here. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 17:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Pictogram-voting question.svg Question this flag looks like an old banner of arms, but this article suggests the flag was designed by Graham Bartram (@GrahamPadruig: ). Is there any more information available? GPinkerton (talk) 21:11, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GPinkerton: Well, from what I've gathered, the cross-impaling-the-dragon's-head is indeed part of the arms attributed to Saint Margaret of Antioch (if you go on this page here, and scroll down to the "Arms Associated With Saints" section, and then on to the part about "St Margaret of Antioch", you'll see what I mean), but not the crowned portcullis. Which leads me to believe that it was indeed Graham Bartram who designed the modern flag of the COSM, and that it was his decision to add the crowned portcullis onto what is otherwise (as you said) a banner of arms. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 02:19, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Snow Lion Fenian: That is very helpful. I suppose the first step would be a vectorization of the dragon's head arms of St Margaret, after which it will be easy to make up the flag and possibly the various Norfolk arms associated with it. GPinkerton (talk) 17:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Not done. I found these patterns to be above the British TOO. Please show evidence that these flags belong to the public domain in the UK, or that they can be assembled using elements already in the public domain. (talk) 17:39, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

House flags[edit]

Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Designism (talk) 17:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article(s): [[]]

Could somebody add the vectorized versions of these flags, please?
  1. Caremar
  2. Saremar
  3. Siremar (maybe these first 3 should have a less bright blue, like in the logo)
  4. Corsica Ferries - Sardinia Ferries [11]
  5. Tirrenia (this is a poor quality image, so I found a photo of the real flag, in order to see the actual colours and the shape of the lion)
  6. MSC Cruises (for a bigger version of the compass rose; here's the logo)
  7. Costa Crociere
  8. Holland America Line (the colour is darker, as you can see here [12])
Thanks in advance --Edera1970 (talk) 18:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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@Edera1970: I have completed most of your request.
  • For all house flags, I extracted the color from their logo images or the theme color used on their website. I have left the source URLs of these colors on each file's description page.
  • MSC appears to have two variations of their flags, a blue and a white. ref
  • Costa Crociere: the link you provided returned 403 "forbidden", so I sniffed around the internet and found this.
  • Holland America Line's image is too complex and is above the threshold of originality. You will have to upload those under fair use on each Wikimedia project, not on Commons. --Designism (talk) 03:29, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@: first of all, thank you for your work. Regarding the Costa flag, as you can see here, the "C" should be slighty bigger, so if you could fix it a bit (maybe even in the colors) it would be perfect. --Edera1970 (talk) 11:59, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Edera1970: ✓ Done. --Designism (talk) 17:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Royal Standards of Lesotho[edit]

Article(s): en:Flag of Lesotho

Please update "File:Royal Standard of Lesotho (1966–1987).svg", "File:Royal Standard of Lesotho (1987–2006).svg" and "File:Royal Standard of Lesotho.svg" with the current version of the flags and coats of arms of Lesotho. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 20:04, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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@ColorfulSmoke: Sorry but I don't understand your request. Do you have an example of what the correct royal standards should look like? Designism (talk) 03:51, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Korean People's Army flags[edit]

Articles: en:Korean People's Army, en:Korean People's Navy, en:Korean People's Army Air and Anti-Air Force

Requesting for these files to be updated based on their 2023 version.
References: [13] (for the Ground Force/entirety of KPA flag, use the one with the plain red background), [14] (at around 9:25, 11:11, 11:32), the text on top is "조국의 무궁한 번영과" and below is "인민의 안녕을 위하여". Center of the star is a golden emblem of North Korea. Close-up on the emblems on the flags: [15] (1:16-1:22). Dates used on the flag: Ground Force/entire KPA is 1948.2.8, Navy is 1949.8.28, and Air Force is 1945.11.29.
(Not the requester) I do not plan to take this request. However, for other graphists interested in working on this, here's a photo with a higher resolution. --Designism (talk) 19:20, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

flags of shipping lines 2[edit]

Article(s): States Steamship Company, w:Isle of Man Steam Packet Company, w:Western use of the swastika in the early 20th century, w:Fall River Navigation Company

Please add the house flags of shipping lines.
  1. States Steamship Company (up to the 1940s) [16] Swastika right-facing.svg
  2. States Steamship Company (1940s-1950s) and its subsidiaries [17]
  3. States Steamship Company (since the 1950s-1979) the one below [18] [19] [20]
  4. States Steamship Company (since the 1950s-1979) in the text version
  5. Isle of Man Steam Packet Company (The flag is from the 19th century) [21]
  6. Old fleet commodore’s flag of Isle of Man Steam Packet Company
  7. Fall River Navigation Company (Upstairs, 3rd from the left)
*3 The seahorse was originally drawn by the late w:Walter Landor, who died in 1995, meaning you can't add the most valuable standard version yet for over 40 years. However, you can do a simplified version that also existed in the era.
Swiãtopôłk (talk) 19:47, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Flag of Union Sulphur Co[edit]

Article(s): w:Union Sulphur Company

Please add the house flag of shipping line.
  1. Union Oil & Gas Corporation [22] [23]
  2. Union Sulphur Company - exactly the same pattern as Union Oil & Gas Corporation, but without "w"

The earliest mention of the devil's design I've found dates back to the 1920, but it's quite likely that the symbol dates back as far back as the 19th century, (it's about these book).

Swiãtopôłk (talk) 00:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Emblems of U.S. unified combatant commands[edit]

Article(s): en:Unified combatant command, among many others.

Please create SVG versions of these U.S. Department of Defense seals and emblems. I've tried making them myself on Illustrator and Inkscape, but find that it's too difficult unless I excessively simplify them. Details should be as sharp as possible, and shading should be very slightly flattened out. Additional reference links are attached to the gallery area. SuperWIKI (talk) 06:12, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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@SuperWIKI: it looks like this uglier version, Official CENTCOM Seal.png, is the existing official version of the CENTCOM seal (identical to what's currently on their website). The version you referred to above comes from an old version CENTCOM webpage that no longer exists. --Designism (talk) 04:26, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If that version could be converted to SVG, that would be good. SuperWIKI (talk) 04:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Please create an alternative version File:Flag map of Zimbabwe.svg with the former flag of Rhodesia (1964–1968), thx. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 20:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Pictogram-voting question.svg Question Plz, describe more detail what you mean "with the former"?

武嶺學校校徽 (Emblem of Wuling School)[edit]

Article(s): zh:武岭中学

I would like to ask someone to help make a svg file of this emblem. The color of the emblem in Commons looks dark, while according to another photograph I found outside Commons, the colour is brighter: The pattern of grass is in green, for example. So please refer to the external image when you are working on it. Only the triangular emblem is required, the Chinese characters below is not needed in the svg file. For Description: the author is 武嶺中學 (original design) and [WIKIGRAPHIST'S USERNAME] (vectorisation); permission is {{PD-China-1996}} for the original design and another permission chosen by the Wikigraphist.--源義信 (talk) 11:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Please modify labels in this French svg so I can translate it : Organisation juridictionnelle nationale fr.svg[edit]

Article(s): en:French law, en:French criminal law, en:Administrative law, and others.

Can someone please make the text in File:Organisation juridictionnelle nationale fr.svg accessible, so I can use the toolforge translate tool to create an English version of it? Thanks! --Mathglot (talk) 21:32, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As a secondary (optional) issue: this diagram has a very wide aspect ratio, and even at full screen width, the labels on the left starting with 'Chambre...' or 'Cour...' are in very tiny print, and hard to read. If the two large boxes left/right were vertically stretched a bit (maybe 25% higher? see what looks good), then that would leave enough room to double the height of the wide, skinny row containing 'Chambre sociale' (under the orange, 'Cour de cassation' row) and make the font bigger. Same thing with the row under the orange, 'Cour d'appel' row, and under the yellow, 'Tribunal judiciaire' row. The labels in the blue boxes on the right seem wordier, and I'm not sure if stretching them vertically would leave enough room to increase the font size, but if you can see a way to do it somehow, that would be great. But this is definitely secondary, and just making the labels accessible for the translation tool, is sufficient.Mathglot (talk) 21:58, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Still interested in this, as it will be useful on additional articles where the diagram is being used, or will be used, as we build out the poor coverage of French law in English Wikipedia. Just to be clear about this: I will do all the actual translation of labels into English using the toolforge tool; I just need the svg to be adjusted to make the addition of new labels by the tool possible in the first place, because right now it's blocked. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 16:25, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Mathglot: ✓ Done. TilmannR (talk) 17:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TilmannR: . Thanks! When I try it in the tool, I get this error: "This file does not have any labels available for translation. Please pick another image." What am I doing wrong? I'm entering just the filename, without the prefix. Mathglot (talk) 01:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, wait: I see you created a new file, and I was using the original filename. Let me try again. Mathglot (talk) 01:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, done; thanks! This can be archived. Mathglot (talk) 05:19, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Clear up, make transparent and SVG[edit]

Article(s): en:20th Century Games

Make the image less blurry, make it transparent, make it an SVG
This image needs to be made less blurry, transparent, and an SVG to match with other "20th Century X" logos (such as File:20th Century Studios (2020).svg) --Blaze Wolf (talk) 21:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Coat of Arms of Brazil[edit]

Article(s): replacing File:Coat of arms of Brazil.svg e.g. in en:Brazil

Please, could a graphist make a SVG file for the Coat of arms of Brazil based on this new official design?
the Brazilian official government released not long ago an extremely detailed "official" version on the design of the Coat of Arms on its website. It's the result of an extensive study based on heraldic conventions and the text of the original Law that established it.
Colours are #007fff (sky blue), #ffd700 (gold), #d5d5d5 (silver), #00800 (green), #2a6332 (leaf green), #ff0000 (red), #ffb6c1 (pink), #5d1113 (coffee red), and #0000ff (blue). The typography is Triumvirate CG Inserat (REPÚBLICA FEDERATIVA DO BRASIL - 15 de Novembro de 1889).
Thank you very much for any help! --Hookko27 (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Question for the coat of arms of Manuel Gonçalves Cerejeira[edit]

Article(s): w:Manuel Gonçalves Cerejeira

I believe I made a mistake for this image. In this image I reproduced Hebrew texts from BabelMap, based on my speculate from previous image by RickMorais, which is vectorized from somewhere else, and I used the Taamey Ashkenaz font (source) to generate that. BUT today I feel something weird while I look at this image, however I can't find the proper source for this coat of arms so I'm unable to sure what the exact spelling of this text, even through I've already seen some informations about the Tetragrammaton. It would be nice if anyone else could give a hand here. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 13:24, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Clan Line request 1[edit]

Article(s):w:Clan Line w:British and Commonwealth Holdings

This is 2 lions in the best quality available, the universal version has never been. Please to recreate one of these lions and use it to correct the given flag of the Clan Line

Unfortunately, the best versions are "orphans" with difficult copyright status

  1. [24]
  2. [25]

and to make 3 more flags with it

Please make these flags using outlines from "Scottish crest badge element - crest.svg".

  1. House flag of the Clan Line.svg in addition to the new lion, the rhombus should also be made a little smaller so that it does not touch the edge.
  2. Cayzer, Irvine & Company, an earlier name of the Clan Line, until the 1910s the flag was simpler, without outlines
  3. Clan Line Commodore
  4. British & Commonwealth Shipping Company
  5. British & Commonwealth Commodore
Swiãtopôłk (talk) 09:10, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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The copyright status of the 2 lions is not clear. There is no copyright claim on the first lion (ca 1965), but the second lion (ca 1955) has the ominous:

Credit: National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, London, Pope Collection. We regret that Museum enquiries have not been able to identify the copyright owner of the flag's emblem and would welcome any information that would help us update our records. Please contact the Picture Library.

Commons needs a free license to make derivative works. Glrx (talk) 18:16, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You actually have a point Swiãtopôłk (talk) 17:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Clan Line request 2[edit]

Article(s):w:Clan Line, w:SS Clan Forbes (1938) w:HMS Engadine (1941), w:HMS Athene, w:HMS Bonaventure (F139)

Please add ceremonial flags of the Clan Line The flags consisted of a diamond and a lion sewn onto the tartan of the clan whose ship was named. There were more, but I chose only those ships that have their own article and 'Clan Sutherland'who had the only surviving flag.
  1. SS Clan Sutherland Sutherland tartan (Vestiarium Scoticum).svg
  2. SS Clan Brodie Brodie tartan (Vestiarium Scoticum).svg
  3. SS Clan Buchanan Tartan Buchanan +b18g46k6b18k6y40k6y40k6b18k6r40w6r40k6b18k6g46.svg

These 2 tartans are not available in svg format, helpful resources can be found in Category:Tartans from the Vestiarium Scoticum

  1. SS Clan Davidson Davidson Half Tartan, Modern.jpg
  2. SS Clan Forbes ForbesTartan.jpg
Swiãtopôłk (talk) 09:10, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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SS Clan Buchanan / File:Tartan Buchanan +b18g46k6b18k6y40k6y40k6b18k6r40w6r40k6b18k6g46.svg does not render correctly in Chrome or Firefox. Glrx (talk) 18:21, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Howard crest error: the lion's tail[edit]

Article(s): Earl of Carlisle

Hello! This image is already in use but there's an error in the depiction of the Earl of Carlisle's coat of arms: the lion's tail in the crest is supposed to be straight, extending towards the sinister rather than curling upwards. This is according to the blazon (see linked article) as well as depictions such as here and here. (The image's creator hasn't been active other than for a short period in 2017, so I thought I'd ask here.)
I actually see the same error with the arms of the Duke of Norfolk – another branch of the Howard family – of which the middle crest is the same as Carlisle's but without the latter's mullet (star) that was added for differentiation. See here for an example. --Waltham, The Duke of 21:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Article(s): multiple

Make SVGs for the other 5 years.
Details of your request go here… ----Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:56, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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svg text disappears in png[edit]

Article(s): en:Messenger RNA

I can't work out this svg issue. Some text shows when looking at the image when rendered as an svg, but disappears when rendered as a png (same for previews on wp pages). See for example, the text "Terminator". Does anyone here know how to fix this? --T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 11:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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@Evolution and evolvability: ✓ Done. The problem seems to be related to Phab:T35245. The text showed up after removing the per-letter positions from the tspan nodes.
E.g. x="499.67999 504.83328 509.40576 514.91809"x="499.67999". TilmannR (talk) 15:11, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TilmannR - Thank you! You're a champion. I knew someone on this page would know the solution. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 23:37, 16 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TilmannR - When there is no x= specified for a tspan node, how do you determine what to put in? I was trying to apply the same thing you did to a sister file: File:Gene_structure_prokaryote_2_annotated.svg but e.g. the text "5’UTR" has no x or y defined for the <text> and the <tnode> specifies x="0" y="0", so I don't understand how the position is being determined for that element! T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 00:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Evolution and evolvability:
The x and y values default to zero; the position is set with the transform attribute to be x=452.76, y=448.6, and y axis inverted (the y axis was inverted higher up, so this inversion undoes the previous inversion).
             x="0 5.3856001 8.0256004 14.74176 19.88448"
The text-anchor and text-align should be middle rather than start to center the text, but that means the x position needs to move to the center of the space rather than the start of the text.
Glrx (talk) 02:35, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Glrx Thanks - I've not really looked much at the text version of an svg before, so this has been helpful for navigating what's going on in the file! T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 04:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help on Coat of Arms[edit]

Hey there, I'm working on some heraldry regarding Dukedoms which don't have their Coat of Arms completed. I created the Duke of Bedford here: Duke of Bedford Coat of Arms.svg. I was wondering anyone would be able to help me out and give some assistance, if able that would be amazing! Cheers, Coldstreamer20 (talk) 20:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]