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New version of File:Li2CO3.svg[edit]

Can someone help me with this file? It doesn't seem to look the same as this. Vs6507 22:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

It's chemically incorrect. Either it is covalent to lithium, with there are Li–O bonds and no atomic charges or it is ionic with charges but no actual bonds to lithium. And if there are charges, there "+" on Li are balanced by "–" on adjacent O (a en:carbonate ion). Check the relevant articles to decide which approach is correct. DMacks (talk) 00:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the note. I've removed the covalent bonds and added negative charges. Is it okay now? [1] Vs6507 19:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Chemically valid now, yes. The +/– signs should all be equally superscripted, and better to use an en-dash (or is there a special numerical minus sign?) than hyphen? The geometry is off (the three C–O bonds should be 120° from each other). It's not really true that there are two O single-bonded anions and one O double-bonded neutral, but it's a pretty common way to represent it. DMacks (talk) 22:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
How about File:Lithium carbonate.svg, which I made by hand-tweaking the analogous File:Sodium carbonate.svg? DMacks (talk) 12:08, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
@VS6507: any further thoughts here? If not, I'll replace yours (nonstandard geometry and typography) with mine and send yours to COM:DR. DMacks (talk) 16:04, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
No need to, you should've updated the original final instead of making a duplicate one. Vs6507 19:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I intentionally did not since I thought this discussion would continue, and benefit from seeing both for comparison. Is the new version you uploaded at File:Li2CO3.svg actually mine from File:Sodium carbonate.svg, or did you recreate one that just looks about the same? DMacks (talk) 22:14, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I wanted to create the exact same picture or maybe the upside down version two weeks ago, but I wasn't notified about your further comments. If I was, I would've definitely done this earlier. I just downloaded your image and edited in Photoshop so I could upload it here. No special changes were made since this was the version I wanted to make. Vs6507 10:26, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Policies regarding adjudication of deletion requests[edit]

1. Is it acceptable for an OTRS administrator to nominate a page for deletion and then to be the person who makes the final ruling on that deletion request?

Nothing is wrong with this unless there is a clear evidence of bias against the files. Wikicology (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

2. Is it acceptable for an OTRS administrator to make a demonstrably false statement in the closing statement of the deletion request discussion page?

Of course, this is unacceptable and may result in the user's admin privilege withdrawn, possibly after a clear consensus to do so. Wikicology (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

If the answer to either of these questions is no, how can I lodge a complaint about this behavior? And if the answer to either question is yes, could you please explain why? They both certainly seem to me like they should be policy violations.

See COM:ANU. Wikicology (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your time and consideration.

--Cohler (talk) 20:49, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

All the best. Wikicology (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

photo upload[edit]

Why is wikipedia so hard to use???? i want to upload a photo for a page i want to write and it wont upload. I believe it would be considered public domain since it is a city landmark, of sorts. If it is not public domain, then who would have the copyright, the person to take the very first picture of the building or the architect? i dont know what the problem is and how to fix it. also... how do i just write a page about something that isn't here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Motherbug (talk • contribs) 07:09, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

If you didn't take the image yourself chances are high that you must not upload it. For more information read Commons:Licensing. --Magnus (talk) 07:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Motherbug, If it's a building, the original copyright holder of the work is the architect and not the person who took the photograph of the building. A photograph of a building under copyright is a derivative work and such work requires a written permission from the original copyright holder of the work (the architect) before it can be uploaded here. Wikicology (talk) 12:01, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
    • And the details of this vary from country to country. This is not a case of Wikipedia being difficult, but of copyright law being difficult.
    • In the U.S., while buildings are technically copyrighted, there is no problem photographing them: copyright of the photo simply belongs to the photographer. In France, on the other hand, they are much stricter, and you need the architect's (or the architect's heir's) permission. You don't say what country you are in, so it's hard to give you more concrete advice. - Jmabel ! talk 16:08, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Cross-wiki block[edit]

Hi! Sometimes I upload an image and use it immediately to several languages in wikipedia that need it. I used to edit many wikipedia versions in a few seconds, but it's been a while I get this message: "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data". I think they put a brake to avoid cross-wiki spam, because this has never happened before and now it happens to me all the time. I am not a spammer, I am just a commoneer who usually has to edit several languages pages, is there a way to avoid this block? Any idea where I can ask this? (Mediawiki? Thank you. --Sailko (talk) 11:29, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

:We are having some issues with the servers. Might be related. It's being worked on, please have some patience. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 20:01, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

@Sailko: It's a bug in the new Firefox version, see phab:T151770, and not any kind of a block. It mostly affects users who edit/visit many wikis. The workaround is to use a different browser, or set network.cookie.maxPerHost much higher in Firefox's about:config menu. Matma Rex (talk) 20:06, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Matma Rex: Thanks for the info! I missed this one. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 20:10, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Matma Rex: Thanks for the info. Anyway, the version of firefox I use has not "maxPerHost" cookie setting... it looks like I'll just have to wait and retry until pages get loaded... --Sailko (talk) 08:51, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Sailko, I had to do it as well some days ago. Go to about:config, right-click, New, add an Integer named network.cookie.maxPerHost and set its value to 250. --Achim (talk) 19:49, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Achim thank you! I just made it! --Sailko (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Technical problem: "local-swift-eqiad"[edit]

When I try to upload an image, I keep receiving this error message:

Could not store upload in the stash (UploadStashFileException): "Error storing file in '/tmp/AseJ60': Could not connect to storage backend "local-swift-eqiad".".

Is there a technical problem that could be solved soon? --Mlang.Finn (talk) 16:33, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

I had the same problem few minutes ago when I tried to download some photos. Also not all my download page photos dosen't show properly. Is there a technical problem that could be solved soon?--Paasikivi (talk) 16:52, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Same problem here. I just posted on this at the Village Pump. Kelly (talk) 16:57, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
We are having some issues with the servers. It's being worked on, please have some patience. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 20:02, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
This is probably resolved now, see phab:T154780. Matma Rex (talk) 20:07, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Error uploading images[edit]

Hi there,

I was wondering if you could help me upload an image I made for the voice leading article on Wikipedia. The first image I uploaded seemed to work at first, and then when I saved my edit on the page, the image didn't load correctly.

I thought maybe there was something wrong with the file, so I reformatted it and tried the upload again. This time I get the error: Could not store upload in the stash (UploadStashFileException): "Error storing file in '/tmp/6LmvX0': An unknown error occurred in storage backend "local-swift-eqiad".".

Do you know what could be the problem?

Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtabor (talk • contribs) 17:17, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

We are experiencing multiple malfunctions currently. The best thing to do is to come back later I think. Jcb (talk) 17:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
We are having some issues with the servers. It's being worked on, please have some patience. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 20:02, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
This is probably resolved now, see phab:T154780. Matma Rex (talk) 20:07, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Ship category needed[edit]

I'm hoping that someone who knows more than I about creating proper categories for ships can create something useful for the one in File:Seattle - panoramio (6).jpg. I've put the relevant information in the description. - Jmabel ! talk 01:39, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 19:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks! - Jmabel ! talk 22:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Photo in a book published in 1916[edit]

Hi. There is a photo I would like to upload that appears in a book published in 1916 in Australia. The book is out of copyright (the author died in 1918) and the photo does not appear to be credited to anyone. Am I safe to assume the photo is in the public domain now? Thanks.VirtualDave (talk)

Yes, it's {{PD-Australia}} and {{PD-1923}}. --ghouston (talk) 07:01, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


HOw can I set my Video in Commons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohan.paudel1 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

See Commons:Video. LX (talk, contribs) 09:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

How to add pubic image to my page[edit]

I want to add a public .png image to my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steeve Austin (talk • contribs) 13:19, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

You can choose any of pubic image that you like. :) After that you just need to insert [[File:Imagename.jpg|thumb|Caption]] into your page. Ruslik (talk) 19:02, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
  • That's a really unhelpful answer, with an NSFW link.
  • Steeve Austin, it's not at all clear what you are asking. Are you trying to add some image that is already on Commons to a new page, or are you asking about uploading an image? If you can be more specific, someone can almost certainly help you. - Jmabel ! talk 22:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
    Based on the filter log, it looks like Steeve is trying to upload low-resolution (1024×724px and 327×304px) photos of himself for the autobiography that he's created for himself over at en:Steeve Austin (in contravention of their guidelines). The uploads were blocked by an automatic filter that prevents low-resolution uploads using the particular upload process used by Steeve, on the basis that they overwhelmingly turn out to be copyright violations. Without having seen the photos, if they do depict the uploader, it's unlikely that they are the uploader's own work, so it looks like the filter worked as intended. Copyright issues aside, since it's likely that the English Wikipedia article will be deleted again, it's also questionable whether the photos would be within our project scope. LX (talk, contribs) 23:14, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Log in[edit]

Why can't I log in since yesterday? What's the problem? --User:Silverije —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 16:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

You have apparently logged in since you asked your question. Ruslik (talk) 18:58, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes, but succeeded in connecting through Google Chrome, not through Mozilla Firefox, which I usually use. --User:Silverije —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 16:57, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

reverting a version doesn't work[edit]

Binder clips.JPG I have accidently overwritten an image file from another user (pictured above[2]) and I'm not able to revert and rollback it. Why? Could someone please fix it? Thanks, --Mattes (talk) 14:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done, I don't know why your attempt didn't work. --Achim (talk) 19:40, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Tatareva RG.jpg[edit]

I uploaded the file which was taken by a photographer for the The Russian Rhythmic Gymnastics Federation. All the photos of the gymnasts are available on their website with the credit given to the photographer who did the work. I included the link to the Federation website from where I took the picture and stated the Photographer as the Author but since I am new to editing the Wiki pages, I am not sure which licence is suitable if any.

--Opheliarose (talk) 14:59, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

The photo is copyrighted to the photographer and can not be uploaded to Commons without a photographer's permission. So, unfortunately, this image must be deleted. Ruslik (talk) 18:03, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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Subir archivo multimedia[edit]

He intentado subir una foto a la biografia, la cual fue tomado por mi, y no permite hacerlo, que se puede hacer?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dario.moreno26 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Sin detalles, es dificíl decir algo definitivo. Si se trata de una imagen de baja resolución y una subida iniciada en la Wikipedia en español en lugar de en Commons mismo, es posible que hayas encontrado un filtro, aunque no veo ninguna indicación de esto para tu cuenta. Es posible que tenga mejor suerte de subir directamente a Commons. ¿O era esto directo a Commons? - Jmabel ! talk 21:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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Error uploading images[edit]

Upload Wizard gives error of too short file name when it hasn't combination of letters and numbers even if it is long enough.--PsichoPuzo (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

@PsichoPuzo: Can you copy-paste the exact file name that is being rejected, and the exact error message? (Or even better, a screenshot of it?) That would help in finding the problem. Matma Rex (talk) 01:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Емблема газети Флот України for example for File:Флот України (2012).png. Error: too short file name. This started two days ago.--PsichoPuzo (talk) 02:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
So was it lacking the '.png' extension? Because the extension is required. Емблема газети Флот України.png should be fine, Емблема газети Флот України should not. - Jmabel ! talk 03:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Sorry. It had extension.
Here is screenshot of another example
Another bug is that Upload file from left menu started to redirect to Commons:Upload/uk whre it should be Special:UploadWizard.--PsichoPuzo (talk) 13:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Hmm. I never use the Upload Wizard, I use Special:Upload myself. Can someone more familiar with the Wizard step in and help here? - Jmabel ! talk 16:16, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
After fumbling around the code tree, I suspect that this is not specific to any particular upload interface. The filename checking that returns this particular message seems to happen in phab:diffusion/MW/browse/master/includes/upload/UploadBase.php.
Wild guess as to what might be going on: I notice that the filename that doesn't work consists entirely of Cyrillic characters except for the extension. Could it be that those don't get counted? LX (talk, contribs) 17:28, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
By the way, Latin script works properly.--PsichoPuzo (talk) 20:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about this, this is clearly a bug and it looks like my fault. I filed phab:T155039 with some details, and I'll get this fixed today. Matma Rex (talk) 19:38, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@PsichoPuzo: This should be resolved now. Really sorry about this! I was on a plane most of yesterday and could only look into this now. Matma Rex (talk) 20:16, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you, now it works properly.--PsichoPuzo (talk) 21:50, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Government image from Florida[edit]

I'd like to upload a photo of Kodak Black. Several mugshots are available online, such as this one, and are credited to the Broward Sheriffs Office. Would the "PD-FLGov" license cover these photos (such as it does for this photo)? If so, I have been unable to locate an original images distributed by the sheriff's office, and can only locate them on various non-Florida government sites. Does it matter what the source is, so long as the credit goes to the Broward Sheriffs Office? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 16:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

If it is really a mugshot (and it seems it is) then, of course, you can upload it. The source does not really matter in this situation. Ruslik (talk) 19:58, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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How to delete uploaded image?[edit]

Hi, I'd like to delete an uploaded image by my. Carlos P.

  • @Carlos P.: I see you have only a small number of uploads (7) and they are all recent enough that it would be OK to ask for any of them to be deleted as a courtesy. Can you be specific about what you want deleted? - Jmabel ! talk 20:33, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

I have uploaded 2 versions of one image. The first one is a mistake, but it have been deleted yet: Thank you very much. Carlos P. (talk) 07:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

  • "it have been deleted yet" falta sentido. Dígame en español, por favor, si es más fácil: ¿queda algo ahora que quieres borrar? - Jmabel ! talk 16:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

API call for random image[edit]


I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this. Let me know, if it's not.

I was trying to figure out how to receive a random image from the wikimedia commons API. Unfortunately I could not figure this out. Actually I'm looking for the same thing that happens when clicking on the link 'random file' in the main menu. So, here are the questions:

1. Is there an API call that does exactly this? 2. If not, would it be ok to do this by scraping the HTML behind the 'Random file' link?

Thanks a lot,

T2 —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Does Commons:API/MediaWiki#Random_file help? --rimshottalk 23:44, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

this looks promising.. But is there a way to include a thumb url and the picture size in the query result? I tried to get more properties with the props parameter. But it does not change the output. My intention would be to download the image (as a second step/http request) in a certain size. —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:07, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Wuld I have to do it like so? 1. get some random images (as you suggest) 2. query information for those filenames (with titles=...) 3. download some images

Or could 1. and 2. be combined in one request? —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, it can be done with generators. Matma Rex (talk) 22:59, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Great! I was trying to figure this out for a while.. Would this request maybe even be possible with multiple images as return? —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 23:56, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Got it, grnlimit is the key. —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 00:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

It turns out that the iiurlwidth causes some trouble. Compare the results of the following queries: In the first query everything is fine. The second however does not include the image info data for say almost every second entry. Even though those entries do possess such data, as further querying can show-

Does someone know what's going on here? —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 14:40, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, apparently, "For performance reasons if this option is used, no more than 50 scaled images will be returned." (quoting a message shown when you try those queries with Special:ApiSandbox). So I guess you'll have to do this in batches of 50 random files. Matma Rex (talk) 03:51, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Categorizing data sets[edit] York I'd like to know how to use these data forms. I know that they operate differently than standard pages. It's my understanding that MediaWiki now has a few content models: MassMessageListContent, JavaScript, JSON, CSS, and plain text. Is this related to that? Any pointers would be appreciated. Please use {{Ping}}. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

@Koavf: See item 1 at m:Tech/News/2017/02 Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:32, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
@Ronhjones: Sorry Ron, unless I'm missing something, these resources say nothing about adding categories. How can I add Category:New York City to this data set? —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:01, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought you meant how to use them. No idea. HotCat don't work either. Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:32, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Wiki loves monuments[edit]

I am in Portugal can I apply to organise the contest in Portugal? Which are the conditions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2017‎ (talk • contribs) 10:34, 12 January (UTC)

Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 doesn't have a lot of information yet, but presumably, most of Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2016/Organise will apply for 2017 as well. For additional questions, please use Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments/Help desk. LX (talk, contribs) 11:29, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Sayfa Oluşturma[edit]

Merhabalar sayın yetkili,

Bir sayfa oluşturmaya çalışıyorum ama sürekli aynı gün içinde siliniyor... Neden acaba? Bu konuda ne yapmamı önerirsiniz? Resmi bir derneği eklemeye çalışıyorum olmuyor...Lütfen bana bir yol gösterin yada yardım edin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yüzyıllık Markalar (talk • contribs) 12:48, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Based on Special:CentralAuth/Yüzyıllık Markalar (where the edit count includes deleted edits), this is the user's first edit on Commons. This question seems to concern the user's activities over at the Turkish Wikipedia, where the user is blocked without access to their own user talk page for having a user name that violates user name policy. The user should read that policy, create a new account that complies with their policy and ask any further questions concerning the Turkish Wikipedia on that site. If someone could translate this information to Turkish, it would be helpful. LX (talk, contribs) 15:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Bolton Abbey[edit]

I have accidently removed a lode of files when I was trying to find the remove other categories, is there a way I can revert this? Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:46, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

These would seem to be the relevant edits. LX (talk, contribs) 15:46, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, done, I have now found that Template:Geogroup can be used to locate incorrect images as well. The reason is that I moved Category:Bolton to Category:Bolton, Greater Manchester but there were images intended for Bolton Abbey and Bolton, East Lothian in it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:52, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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Using an image from Italian wikipedia in English wikipedia[edit]

Some time ago I was able to do this, but have forgotten the steps to make it work. Can someone refresh my memory? User:TimeForLunch

It would help if you could identify the image in question, so that we can determine if it is hosted here on Commons or locally hosted on the Italian Wikipedia, and in the latter case whether it is eligible for transfer here or to the English Wikipedia. LX (talk, contribs) 15:50, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
The image in question can be found here: [[3]]. User:TimeForLunch
That file (it:File:Chiostro canonici genova.jpg) is strictly on the Italian Wikipedia and has a tag indicating that it is not eligible for Commons: "A causa di restrizioni che riguardano esclusivamente Wikipedia in lingua italiana, questa immagine non deve essere sostituita con corrispondenti esistenti su Wikimedia Commons." - Jmabel ! talk 16:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)User:TimeForLunch
I believe this is all tied in with some restrictions on publishing images of cultural properties in Italy, but I don't offhand know the details. Someone else may be able to fill that in. - Jmabel ! talk 16:18, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thanks Jmabel ! talk I appreciate the assistance. User:TimeForLunch

publishing an article on Wikepedia[edit]

Hi- I have an article I have created that is currently in my sandbox. i believe it is well researched and documented and is ready to be uploaded- what is the next step? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaryAnthonyStartz (talk • contribs) 21:43, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello MaryAnthonyStartz, you should ask this question at the help desk of the specific Wikipedia project. Commons and the various language-specific Wikipedias are separate projects, with their own administration and guidelines. Commons is focussing on media hosting, not on the articles themselves. For example, the help desk for English-language Wikipedia is at en:Wikipedia:help desk. Hope that helps. GermanJoe (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I've replied at greater length at en:User talk:MaryAnthonyStartz. - Jmabel ! talk 01:19, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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Servers serving SVG image as plain text[edit]

With File:South Africa municipalities 2016 blank.svg, if I request the original SVG from URL it is served with a Content-Type of "text/plain" instead of the "image/svg+xml" that it should be. This means that browsers don't render the SVG image as they should. Any ideas why that might be? (I have checked the file and it is valid SVG.) - Htonl (talk) 02:04, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

@Htonl: This only happens for specific files (missing the XML doctype declaration), see phab:T150929. Matma Rex (talk) 05:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
The Phabricator task is restricted and I can't see it. But your pointer to the XML declaration put me on the right track to figure it out. Thanks! - Htonl (talk) 10:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
@Htonl: I've added you as a subscriber so you should be able to see it now. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:36, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
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Automatic uploading of images from public domain stock photography sites[edit]

Hello, I would like to make the following request:

I've recently noticed that there are a number of websites hosting free images licenced with CC0. I've just found a list a of such sites. The biggest such site is probably Pixabay. So I think those images should be uploaded automatically and periodically (for example, upload the new images, once in a month) on Wikimedia Commons. If and when those websites will go down (and some of them will, for sure, because they belong to a single photographer), the images will not be lost. —  Ark25  (talk) 14:24, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Not everything will be useful within our scope, and like everything else, such content needs to be license reviewed. To be useful, it needs to be properly described and categorized. I don't think more rushed bulk uploads with sloppy file descriptions and without evaluation of usefulness are what we need right now. LX (talk, contribs) 16:08, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Still, it looks like there is a lot of nice stuff on some of those sites. For at least some sites, it might be worth someone assaying what's there, seeing if it's likely that a very high percentage of it is legitimate, and uploading periodically into a category specific to the site, from which people can review. But, to a large extent I agree with LX: the main value of Commons is that most of our content is (1) pretty well vetted and (2) pretty well described and categorized. The bulk of the work involved in making Commons what it is comes from those two things, not just obtaining photos. I often spend up to 10 minutes categorizing someone else's poorly described image because it looks like it might be an image of something important. That time may be free in that I'm a volunteer, but it's not free in that I could be doing something else, thank you. - Jmabel ! talk 16:17, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I don't have time to check them all, but at least for Pixabay, many of the images are simply breathtaking - they can easily enter in the "Picture of the year" contest. The average quality of images at Pixabay is greatly higher than the average on Wikimedia Commons images. They are all CC0 and the majority of them are useful for educational purposes without any doubt, and also well categorized with tags. A robot can upload them, add them in a special, temporary "Pixabay" category, and also auto-fill categories using tags - and the author name. And then, let the community check the category "Pixabay" and review each image (reviewing means checking/adjusting the categories and maybe add descriptions sometimes). When a user finishes reviewing an image, they should mark it as such, and remove it from the "Pixabay" category. The new articles on Wikipedia (many of them poorly categorized) can be kept until the community reviews them and decides to keep or delete. Many times, I've also spent 5-10 minutes for categorizing new Wikipedia articles made by others - that's how this system works. The images can have the same treatment. I notice that images on Pixabay have no description - so we can ask them nicely if they would agree to add a description field. In any case, Wikimedia Commons has plenty of images without description or with useless descriptions so that shouldn't be a big deal anyway.
It really looks like a huge percent of the images are worth uploading, and then it might be a good idea to ask someone to evaluate them - even to pay someone - I think the WMF can easily afford that. —  Ark25  (talk) 21:42, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Oh, I just noticed that the next thread talks about a "Panoramio bot" which seems to be doing just that: automatically adding images, without description. Panoramio upload botPanoramio Review BotCategory:Panoramio images reviewed by trusted usersCategory:Media lacking a description (299,841 files) - the kind of things that I was talking about. The same thing can be done for Pixabay - automatic or semi-automatic. —  Ark25  (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure how common it is, but some of the images on Pixabay are digitally enhanced versions of images that can be found elsewhere, including Commons. E.g., [4] is derived from File:Greens-Beach-rocks-20070419-026.jpg. --ghouston (talk) 00:19, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Maybe there are some programs capable to detect such duplicates or enhanced versions? —  Ark25  (talk) 11:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Panoramio upload bot overwrites images?[edit]

File:- panoramio (6803).jpg - Panoramio upload bot instantly overwrote this image with a completely different one. Is this a mistake or was this supposed to happen? Thanks, Kalbbes (talk) 18:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Never mind. I found the overwritten image: File:- panoramio (6816).jpg. I guess the bot was fixing itself. Kalbbes (talk) 18:44, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
It's not the same image. -- Asclepias (talk) 18:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Some strange but apparently isolated mistake. Like the bot duplicated the number 6803 before continuing with 6804. -- Asclepias (talk) 18:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Asclepias, thanks for taking a look at it. Kalbbes (talk) 19:27, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Panoramio upload bot overwrites images again. Overwritten image not found. Can it be retrieved?

File:- panoramio (7596).jpg was over written but I found one yesterday also. I don't know how often this happens. Does this bot have a flaw? Can overwritten images be retrieved? Thanks, Kalbbes (talk) 16:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

You can contact the bot operator, User:Shizhao, to report the problem. If there are only two cases, they could be fixed individually, I suppose. One method could be: 1. Revert to the first image (the link in the description refers to the first image). 2. Copy the second image and upload it under a different name. 3. Find the second image on panoramio (its panoramio number is in the Commons upload log) and copy its source link (and eventually other information) in the new description page. Another method is to do the opposite: adjust the description page to describe the second photo, and copy and upload the first photo under a different name. But before doing anything, I think it would better to get advice from the bot operator. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:24, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Request a split, either with {{Split}} or, if you want to write a bit more like pointing to the very similar file (for a later addition as other version), see COM:SPLIT and sections below. — Speravir – 19:15, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
thx, this a unknown bug, I try fix it--shizhao (talk) 01:56, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

De minimis of Copyrightable is applied or not !?[edit]

Picture is Copyrightable, but shot is made in macro mode, so its around "less than 1% of all banknote", where No.1 rule might be applied for de minimis. I also tried if Google will find the result, he couldnt. Is de minimis legal here ? Picture is not croped, but macro zoomed. Could someone help here. --Mile (talk) 07:33, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

In my opinion Commons:De minimis applies and the image can be kept. Only a small part of the banknote is visible, and more importantly the subject of the image is the printing process pattern. MKFI (talk) 07:54, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
If banknotes are copyrightable in your country then this image here is certainly displaying enough artistic expression to be copyrightable itself. I also think that someone familiar with the banknotes could identify which one, so it fails the test. -- Colin (talk) 08:16, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

We have some rules here, its Copyrightable, Chinese renminbi, as whole banknote could not be here, as zoomed into the pattern it goes under De minimis. See the rules. --Mile (talk) 08:26, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Can we have some more opininion here, some are in doubt. talk, --ghouston, Wikicology ? --Mile (talk) 10:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

I would also like to know do we must clarify what banknote is that, since De minimis is about to not to configure what/which bankonote is it !? Copy-paste : Copyrighted work X is visible, but not identifiable. --Mile (talk) 10:14, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Should I crop?[edit]

Hello, I just uploaded this image from the Library of Congress:,_February_1945.jpg

I inserted it in the article on the Siegfried Line:

Should I crop extraneous material from the photo before I upload it to Wikimedia Commons? AugusteBlanqui (talk) 10:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC)