Commons:Help desk/Archive/2007/05

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How to upload a directory of files[edit]

I have generated a set of icons that can be used on blogs or especially to make stamps for Acrobat. I tried to UL the set as a zip file but WC can not accept zips/ How else can I upload a large set of smallish files?

You could upload them all individually (the best, maybe only option). You could also upload them with a bot, but you would probably need approval first. Cbrown1023 talk 00:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
See also Commons:File upload service. -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Adding uploaded video to an article[edit]

I have uploaded a ogg video clip to wikimedia commons. What is the best way to display it in the article? Uttam H

Use {{Video}}, if available on your Wiki. -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


Everywhere you look (e.g. Commons:Welcome and Help:Contents, you find information on how to upload images. But it's virtually impossible to find information on how to locate an image for a particular purpose. It seems to me this is the more basic function, and should be made as straightforward as possible. Admittedly, the Main Page offers a few places to look, but it's useless unless your need happens to match one of the listed topics, which so far mine never have. I eventually found the question, "How can I search for images?" buried way down in the FAQ, but that wasn't any more helpful. I was hoping the "Category Tree" might show me the category structure, but it only works if you already know the name of the category you're looking for (!).

Bottom line, this wiki desperately needs tools for finding your way around. The obvious place to start would be a site map, linked in as many places as possible, including right after Welcome on the sidebar. This is a fantastic resource, but only if people can find what they're looking for.

Okay, I'm done whining now. –Cúthalion (talk) 15:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I should add, part of the problem is that images don't naturally lend themselves to a Google search the way text does. –Cúthalion (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
We have the Mayflower search tool now, which is linked from the main Commons search page. It is far better when it comes to image searches and makes it easier to quickly find what you are looking for as it shows thumbs in the results. -- Editor at Largetalk 18:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Cúthalion...did you try just doing a search in the search box? There is a big logo on Special:Search pointing people to the Mayflower search engine. But I think you are right, it would be good to have a link to it on the sidebar. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 08:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Commodore 64 screenshot[edit]

Hi. Is Image:C64 startup animiert.gif suitable for the commons? Is the PD tag valid? --GunnarRene 20:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, that depends. Is the software licensed under the GNU GPL or a similar open-source license?  V60 干什么? · VContribs 21:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
The design is not copyrightable. / Fred Chess 08:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Move image P1010118.JPG[edit]

Hi, I uploaded an incorrect image in Image:Elephanta_Dvarapala.JPG. Please move the one in Image:P1010118.JPG to Elephanta_Dvarapala.JPG and delete P1010118.JPG. Thank you. --Sivaraj 08:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

These images are different. I think will be good idea to keep them both. However, Image:P1010118.JPG could be re-uploaded under better name (for example, Elephanta_Dvarapala-2.JPG). --EugeneZelenko 14:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Template for image from Presidential library[edit]

Template:PD-USGov-NARA has been proposed at deletion requests. How should I re-tag e.g. Image:Harry ca. 1897.jpg? The source link says "Restrictions: Unrestricted."[1]. I emailed the Truman library and the said, if the image is called unrestricted, it is definitely in the public domain. On other note, some of the pictures from the library homepage (see Harry S. Truman) have "Restrictions: Undetermined" e.g. Image:Trumanwhistlestop.jpg. About these, they told me "we have no information regarding photographer or ownership. We will provide the photograph to you, but you would use it at your own risk." I suppose these pictures should be speedy deleted? Vints 09:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Could you delete an image for me?[edit]

I uploaded an image DirectBandGap.svg but there was a problem with it but because I only just signed up0 with wouldn't let me replace it with a new version so I had to create DirectBandGap2.svg, could you delete the original please? Thanks, John

✓ Done --GeorgHH 17:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Please delete and rename[edit]

Image:Japan_Kamikouchi-Valley_Panorama.jpg was only a draft, I did a mistake in uploading it. The good image is Image:Japan_Kamikouchi-Valley_Panorama_Final.jpg Can someone delete the draft, and rename the final version (ie remove the useless "_Final"). Thanks.

✓ Done Uploaded as new version to Image:Japan_Kamikouchi-Valley_Panorama.jpg. --GeorgHH 10:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Eh, uploading issues[edit]

I reside in east Africa and connect to the internet via a satellite with latency issues. As a result uploading is severally limited by the wiki-commons upload dialog box. I can, however, publish via an ftp server. I've uploaded an image to my website and now would like to import it to the commons. I recall that there was once away to upload from the web, but I have failed to find the way in the new dialog box. I'm a regular contributer and know the licensing procedures and am releasing the image under CC-SA-CR-2.5 (or some such abbreviation). Please advise. --Cody.Pope 08:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyright violation, please delete me[edit]

Hi, i uploaded a file and it violates copyright and i am terribly sorry for doing this. I am new to the Wiki Commons so I have no clue how to delete it. If you could help me with this i would appreciate it so much, and when your done you can delete my account, i dont want to cause any more trouble.--RiotSauce

Hello, the image Image:590-522-050207SCASD2 affiliate.42.jpg was deleted, but a account can't be deleted. Maybe, if you have own images which are useful for wikimedia, please provide them on commons. If you have questions, dont hesitate to ask here on the Help desk, Village pump or directly an Administrator. --GeorgHH 19:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

SVG text help[edit]

I'm just beginning to learn Inkscape so that I can create SVGs for WP and COM. I just uploaded Image:Event-horizon-particle.svg, which was supposed to mirror WP's Image:Event-horizon-particle.png, but the text isn't showing up. I used a generic font (Times New Roman), so I thought it would be WP-compatable. Am I wrong? tiZom(2¢) 21:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind - Moving this to the graphics discussion. tiZom(2¢) 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


Is there a way for non-admins to accomplish interwiki links in an image description? Since the description for the above image is in English, I'd like to link back to the en.WP pages... Is this possible? tiZom(2¢) 21:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, figured this one out. I was missing the colon at the front. Still need help on the previous question though. Thanks. tiZom(2¢) 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

copyright interpretation confusion[edit]

Have been directed to Wikipedia to find copyright free imagery jpegs to illustrate an academic paper at art school. The no copyright symbol is clear along with accompanying language. On images with is about as clear as mud. Can you explain in simple plain En glish whether pictures falling under Wikipedia Commons rights may or may not be imported/copied for use for an academic paper for ahistory of architture class. Not planning to publish paper at least at this time. So pls explain to art student. Thanks Obviously not using the stuff until you clarify with hopefully a po9sitve answer. Thanks again. C.Inayatullah [e-mail removed]

Hello, C.Inayatullah! All images on Commons are free for any use, although some licenses require you to credit the original author. PD images are in the Public Domain, meaning you can use them for anything without any restrictions. There may be other variants and slightly different licenses, but in general images here are either free for use with no restrictions, or must be attributed. A few of the most common (but not the only) licenses are below:
Public Domain
Attribution required
For images requiring attribution you only have to add somewhere in the document (such as a bibliography) the author's name. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions :) -- Editor at Largetalk 02:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I moved GFDL to the second paragraph because GFDL requires attribution. --Matt314 16:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Picture is size dependant[edit]

BSicon SPLe.svgBSicon SPLe.svg My friend JollyRoger uploaded a new picture which was intended to be a red V. However, to his surprise it looked like a blue V. I thought he had made an error, so I uploaded a picture myself. No difference. The problem was discovered my MdE: He rebuked me :( for uploading the wrong picture. He reverted to Jolly's version. No difference, of course.

In the meantime I discovered that the appearance of the picture depends on its size, as you can see here.

What has gone wrong, and how do I correct it? HandigeHarry 08:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

✓ Done MediaWiki doesn't create new thumbnails sometimes, and you need to &action=purge to try delete the old ones. That doesn't always work though, like was in this case. Another way is to get the url of the image in the size you are seeing the old thumbnail in, and then add something after the url, anything. That makes MediaWiki recreate the thumbnail and it will then be refreshed using the normal name, too. --Para 08:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll try to remember this. In NL I got a tip to use action=purge, but that didn't work. By 'old thumbnail' you probably mean 'wrong thumbnail' (since the very first upload was correct - it was just the display that was wrong). HandigeHarry 08:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
You might also try<width>&f=<filename without image: prefix>. -- Bryan (talk to me) 09:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Neither method works with BSicon MWEXlfrfu.svg BSicon MWEXlfrfu.svg. But there is a difference here: the bright red picture is an older version. In the case of the red and blue V all versions were red, and I have no idea where the blue version came from. HandigeHarry 08:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Need Help in uploading new version of map[edit]

Hello! I'm a newbie here, though not in the English language Wikipedia (there, I'm also The Ogre). So I still can't upload a new version of a previously exiting file. I need help. Can someone upload the new version I've made of the Map of Lusophone world? The existing one (Image:Map-Lusophone World-en.png) is wrong see talk). The new one is Image:Map-Lusophone World-eng.png. Thnak you! The Ogre 12:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

✓ Done. --EugeneZelenko 14:04, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Bad files in preview and thumbnail[edit]

I can not understand why an image from en:Image:Orleand dot.png correctly uploaded in ca:Image:Orlenas dot.png when it is uploaded in commons Image:Orleans dot.png is only seen well in high resolution and not in preview nor in articles with thumbnails. The same problem happens with Image:Rouen dot.png, Image:Tours dot.png and Image:Catalunya+Comarques+English.jpg. --Vriullop 10:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Mediawiki has problems with hiresolution png's The only option is unfortunately to downsample the image yourself :( -- Bryan (talk to me) 10:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Photos of packaging for food, cosmetics, etc.[edit]

I'm wondering about taking photos of certain foods, still in their packaging, and uploading them. It seems that if if I take the food out of the packaging and then photograph it, there is no copyright to it, other than the copyright of my own photographing, which I can choose to release under whatever licence I choose. But if it's still in the packaging, does that make it fair use, like a book cover?

For example, if a particular brand makes cornflakes, and I pour the cornflakes into a bowl and then take a photo, I know that's okay. But what if I take a photo of the packet of cornflakes, and put it into the article for cornflakes and also the article for the particular brand.

An example would be this image of a container of Gillian McKeith's hemp seeds (which in turn contains a photo of McKeith). I wasn't thinking of downloading the image from that (or any) website and uploading it here. But I buy those hemp seeds regularly, and could take a photo of them. Such a photo could go into an article about hemp seeds, and into the section on the Gillian McKeith article that deals with McKeith products.

Another example would be this image of Bioforce propolis. I have a tube of it, and thought of asking a family member to take a photo of the tube with a tiny drop being squeezed onto my finger. It could go into the article about propolis, and the article about Bioforce (if there is one). I could give various other examples of foods, cosmetics, cleaning agents, etc.

I would only take and upload such photos if I were sure that I'm not in violation of Commons:Derivative works or something similar. I'm fairly certain I have seen such images in articles at en, with a gfdl or pd licence, but I know that people can innocently upload something with a free licence, thinking they have the right to do so when in fact they don't. Advice would be appreciated. Thank you. ElinorD 16:35, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

It's borderline. Most commercial product are protected under protection of industrial property or trade mark and models, this is why for instance a car can be taken in photo without problem linked to artistic property rights. But just like book covers, packs design may be "artistic work" by themeselves. For instance, the first example you give clearly is "artistic", the second probably not. So the best policy is never to reproduce them without the right owner's authorisation. Michelet-密是力 18:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I'll play safe and not upload anything where there's doubt. ElinorD 16:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Modern editions of 19th-century novels, with original drawings, or with facsimile of original title piece[edit]

I notice at en that a lot of articles about books have a fair use photo of the book cover. I imagine that if I owned a first edition of a 19th century classic like David Copperfield, Jane Eyre, etc. and scanned the title page, I could release it under a free licence if I chose to do so.

Sometimes some modern publisher (e.g. Oxford University Press) publishes a modern edition of an old classic, but keeps the original drawings (which may even be by the author, e.g. Thackeray), and/or has a facsimile of the original title page. If I own a modern edition of a book that was written in, say, 1812, can I scan the modern reproductions of the original title pages and of the original drawings and upload them under a free licence as if I had scanned it directly from an actual first edition? Thanks. ElinorD 17:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Theoretically, yes. As long as the title page has been kept unchanged, the corresponding "artistic creation" was that of the first edition, not of the reedition. Michelet-密是力 18:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. I have taken photos of facsimiles of the title pages from original editions of Sense and Sensibility (1811) and Pride and Prejudice (1813). Both facsimiles were found in the modern Oxford University Press editions. I took photos with a camera rather than scanning them in the computer scanner, because opening the books completely flat, face down, and pressing on them with the scanner lid wouldn't have been good. (I don't consider that any expertise went into my photography, which reproduced Oxford's reproduction of the 19th century design.) I'll do the remaining Jane Austen novels later in the week. What tag should I put on them? Thanks. ElinorD 17:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Use {{PD-old}}.  V60 干什么? · VContribs 17:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Problems of preview[edit]


I don't understand why some of my panoramas PTGui can not be previewed!!

Image:Trinity College Facade.JPG

Image:Marseille vu de La Vesse.jpg

Thanks for you help

Nepomuk 19:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The first one, at least, is saved as a progressive JPG. This is known to cause thumbnail rendering to fail. Please save the files without progressive mode, and upload them again. thanks, pfctdayelise (说什么?) 04:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


I created a new image my combining two images I downloaded from the Commons!! How should I upload it??

Which two images are these? Also, please sign your posts with ~~~~. Yonatan talk 04:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Image:California 54.svg and Image:California 94.svg!! -Happy 01:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Can we upload pictures published before 1923 in the United States?[edit]

I'd like to upload postcards that were copyrighted in the United States before 1923. Wikipedia allows this, but I don't see the same pull-down item on the upload page for Wikimedia Commons. (If I can upload postcards, I'll create galleries of old pictures on Wikimedia Commons.) So (1) can I do this or not, and (2) what justification do I use in uploading to Wikimedia Commons? Thanks! Noroton 18:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Please see what I've done at Image:PostcardElmwoodAveSouthNorwalkCt.jpg for an example. I've added the wording from the template at Wikipedia for pre-1923 copyrighted work, just cutting and pasting it from the Wikipedia explanation, which you can see if you follow the link to the duplicate Wikipedia picture page. Noroton 20:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Note that images are under different copyrights than text is. An image is, generally, copyrighted for 70 years after the death of the photographer; thus a picture taken in 1923 by someone who was 20 at the time means they may not have died until 1980 or 1990; that would make the photograph copyrighted until 2050 or 2060. Also, please do not copy text from licenses on the English wikipedia; we have different policies and a lot of their templates are not allowable here. Asking which template to use if you aren't sure is usually the best course of action :) -- Editor at Largetalk 20:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
{{PD-US}} makes no mention of the limitations you described; it might need to be reworded. (Your copyright knowledge would be appreciated at s:Wikisource:Licensing form, where we're trying to put together a comprehensive review of copyright law.) —Pathoschild 23:24:24, 06 May 2007 (UTC)
I've taken down the template text from Wikipedia. I'm confused by your statement about images being under different copyright rules than texts. I've been looking around and I see no distinction between images and text in copyright law, at least in the United States before 1978. (see Commons:Licensing Country-specific laws section, United States section). Here's what I found at Commons:Licensing "Material in the public domain" section (paragraph 4):
"However, the year and location of publication is essential. In several countries, material published before a certain year is in the public domain. In the U.S. this date is January 1, 1923."
This article makes no distinction between postcards, photographs or text, so long as the material is published -- oh, I see there is a distinction in U.S. law, but only for later in the 20th century, not before 1923 (Commons:Licensing "Country-specific laws" section, "United States" subsection).
The same article (in the "Country-specific laws" section) states, "Images uploaded to Commons, unless uploaded from the United States, involve the interaction of two or more copyright jurisdictions." I take it that when I'm in the U.S. (and I am), and I'm taking postcard images from a Web site in the U.S. (and I am), of images published in the U.S. (and I am) that only U.S. copyright law applies. Please tell me if I'm on the wrong track here, or confirm for me that I'm on the right track and that I can upload pre-1923 postcards. I appreciate the help. Noroton 23:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC) (self edit Noroton 23:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC))
Since initiating this discussion, I found the {{PD-US}} template, and that seems to answer my initial questions. Noroton 16:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Photographs from non-public places[edit]

(This went unanswered last time, so I'm taking the liberty to re-post.)

  1. If a person takes a photograph in a non-public place despite not being allowed to do so, what is the status of the image? Does the photographer still own the copyright? Do other laws prevent the image from being used?
  2. What constitutes a public place? Does it have to do with ownership?

Paul_012 (talk) 18:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC) See Commons_talk:Licensing#Photographs_from_places_that_allow_only_photographing_for_own_use. From what I get from the discussion, you still own the copyrights to the photograph, but you are committing breach of contract. -- Bryan (talk to me) 19:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Paul, I have taken photographs at a tennis tournament where I was only allowed to for "personal use". It's quite common. I think the situation is, as far as we're concerned you're welcome to upload them, but if our understanding of the law changes in the future, they may be deleted. But my impression is that breaking the terms of entry doesn't give them any control over my copyright, which comes from my creativity, not just the setting they provide me access to. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 01:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

0 byte uploads and SVG thumbnails[edit]

Hi... I'm trying to upload somg SVGs but it keeps giving me 0 byte files. I have to try 6-7 times before it works. Here are some samples: Image:Al-TableImage.svg, Image:Si-TableImage.svg, Image:Mg-TableImage.svg. The thumbnails, likewise, aren't generating properly either: [2]... any ideas? Atanamir 09:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Just a minor update... most of the thumbnails just appeared on the en-wiki link. I guess i should just wait a while until uploading again. Atanamir 09:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

uploaded file with error[edit]

my display header got truncated, the actual svg has the correct proportions. How do I fix? (more specifically, swap out or overwrite the wrong version?)

Thank you

Valentin Morrison Ramos

✓ Done - I fixed the image for you; the page was a normal-sized portrait page and the svg was a landscape that was larger than the page was, meaning you had the cropped right edge and the space above and below. It is fine now :) -- Editor at Largetalk 22:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Error when uploading[edit]

I keep getting the error of "Cannot find the server" when trying to upload a bundled .djvu file. Does anyone has any idea what the problem might be?--BirgitteSB 20:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I got it to work with one play. Maybe the entire volume was too large a file. I am not sure which will end up being more useful but 3 volumes vs. 20+ plays is a lot more uploading :(--BirgitteSB 21:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Replace corrected image (new account)[edit]

I uploaded a corrected version of an SVG graph (with the width and height set so the preview is the right size), but can't overwrite the old one. If someone could move the new file: 10mb-emulab.svg to replace the old file: SET_10mb_emulab_graph.svg

I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

DavidAndersen 20:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

✓ Done. --EugeneZelenko 13:59, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Please move image to appropriate location[edit]

I downloaded and edited/improved this image

When I tried to upload it to replace the existing copy I got this message:

"A file with this name exists already. You can't upload a new version because your account is too new. Please go back and upload the file under a new name. Once you've done that, you can ask someone at the Help desk to move your file to the name you want."

So, I'm asking.

I've now uploaded it to this location

One thing that I don't understand is why my account is "too new." I've had a wiki account for more than a year. How long is it before an account is un"new?" the preceding unsigned comment is by Wiki name (talk • contribs) 02:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. I've tagged the new name for deletion. The reason it says that your account is too new is that Commons is not the same as Wikipedia. You'll have to wait two days from the time you created your account on Commons for it to be not new.  V60 干什么? · VContribs 03:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Robbery under arms.jpg[edit]

Heya. I uploaded the image:Robbery under arms.jpg after getting authorisation from the copyright holder. I have now edited this image and would like to upload that for use at wikipedia as well, but I'm not sure how I should do that in terms of filling out the upload info. Can someone help? Ta Baby ifritah 06:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC) PS- I have uploaded it with the original source/licensing data to image:Robbery_under_arms2.png. I assume i need to include the info that it is a variation of the original image, so i have placed my name as the source instead of the original website]] this can be changed if it is wrong, ja? Baby ifritah 06:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you could just mention that this is modified version of other image. Also list of authors should include you and author of original image (GFDL requirements). --EugeneZelenko 13:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


Hi - I just created an account today and I see a menu heading "upload file" This might seem a very basic basic and obvious question but can we quote wikipaedia on our web pages (with credits) and does "commons" mean that we can upload some images liegitimately ? Thought Id better ask !


Commons is a media repository, yes. Please read Commons:Project scope before uploading anything here. thanks, pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Image has disappeared[edit]

On 2007-04-13, I uploaded several photos of tins of Keen's Mustard; I believe I did all of them with the same tags and categories, etc. One of them has since disppeared and I can find no trace of it. The missing Image:Keens-2007-113g-tin-front-10444CBB.jpg is needed on the Wikipedia page's. Can someone help me find out what happened to it, why it was deleted? Eugenwpg 02:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, it was deleted ([3]). It's a picture of the front of a tin of mustard. It's a deriviative work of the undoubtedly copyrighted company logo and design. Commons only allows media under open content licenses. If you want to use it in Wikipedia, you'll need to upload it there with a fair use rationale. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help; I finally figured out that the sort of search I wanted is Special-pages : Logs --Eugenwpg 20:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Printouts from Google Earth?[edit]

Can we upload printouts from Google Earth? Fyslee 15:44, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope, we can't. Images from Google Earth are copyrighted. World Wind-images (Wikipedia article (en)) however can be uploaded. NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 16:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


I changed Copyleft.svg to GreenCopyleft.svg, but none of the images tagged with the license tag had the image channged. What is this all about? Biggo391 23:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Nvm, it just took a sec. Biggo391 23:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
FYI, there is a job queue, and it's length is viewable in special:statistics. It shows the number of pages that should be updated (for example, the pages using templates to be regenerated). You can force any page's update by calling it with ?action=purge (e.g., — Kalan 07:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I do not quite understand your problem, but it could be the same which is described below, under "How to upload successfully'. HandigeHarry

Clip art[edit]

i have uploaded the image:Books_Australia.png which i made from edited composite of clip art from my computer. we want to use this as the icon/logo for WikiProject Australia but i have been unable to find any copyright/source data. is this clip artok, and how do i attribute it properly? thanks Baby ifritah 06:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you must attribute authors of clipart. And if clipart images was copyrighted (for example came with Microsoft Office), image should be deleted. To be safe, you could try to find public domain images on (sorry, server currently down on maintenance). --EugeneZelenko 14:38, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

How to upload successfully?[edit]

This really drives me crazy. I uploaded the same pictures again, and again, and again, and again! And suddenly the result is how it should be. That's relieving. At this moment one single erroneous picture remains. I give up now.

This one is correct: [4]

And these are incorrect: [5] [6]

I had a similar problem before. But there was a difference. This time the erroneous picture is an older version. The previous time all previous version were correct, and the erroneous picture was apparently a completely different picture.

That previous time the problem was solved by Para. He told me what the solution was, but he already solved it himself, so he gave me no opportunity to try it.

Para advised me to add something after the URL. Well, let's try this time! Alas, when I type "" it replies that the URL is invalid.

And Bryan advised "<width>&f=<BSicon_MWEXlfrfu.svg>". Invalid too.

HandigeHarry 14:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

You have to edit the URL of the thumbnail, not that of the image page. You'll know you're looking at the right thing when the word /thumb/ is in the URL. Let's hope nobody tries it before you do. --Para 15:08, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
What is the URL of the thumbnail? Whenever I click on something it starts downloading a PNG or an SVG. I inspected the HTML source file and searched for PNG.
I found
I copied that to the address bar of the browser, typed some additional characters, and voilà! It worked! Should I repeat this for all sizes from 1px to 500px?
Anyhow, I don't think I would have found this without your helpful help.
Some questions remain:
Why should it be done manually?
What happened the previous time (with the red V and the blue V)?
HandigeHarry 15:27, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
That's the one, you found it and fixed the problem. I did the same thing the last time. It doesn't need to be done for all sizes, only for the broken ones. Also, as thumbnails are only created when they are needed, requesting them for all possible sizes would be a waste. This shouldn't have to be done manually, but something is broken and we just don't know what it is. bugzilla:2888 is the place to work on it. Meanwhile, with Firefox it's easy to find the thumbnail URL, you can just right-click on an image and "Copy Image Location" (instead of the usual "Copy Link Location"). --Para 15:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


What happened to the pics I sent?

/ regards Gunilla Sweden

An ebay question[edit]

Anne Pratt was a famous botanical illustrator who died in 1893. She wrote and illustrated over 20 books. These are now being split up, and sold as individual prints on Ebay- and naturally they come with a jpeg illustration of the proposed print. I want one of her illustrations for her enWiki page. Morally, I have no problem with using any jpeg produced by book vandal but... what is the copyright status on Commons or enWiki of such a jpeg... and how would I tag it. ClemRutter 22:42, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

If it's simply a reproduction of the text, you can use {{PD-art}}. I'd like to see the pictures so I can be sure though. Yonatan talk 00:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Here is an url: There are many more. Some of the attributed dates must be for second editions. What do you think?
Agree with Yonatan. I'd go for it and tag them PD-Art, just to drive home the Bridgeman reasoning in case the seller should ever complain. He's in the U.S. and has a ridiculous copyright notice on his private webpage, indicating that he mistakenly believes he had a copyright on these images. (Anne Pratt was British and died 1893 (good for us), and anyway these works were published before 1923 (definitely tough luck for him). So it's fine.)Lupo 11:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Some more are here... Lupo 11:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
This is the information I intend to use.

== Summary == {{Information |Description=This is a chromolithograph by Anne Pratt 1806- 1893. The artist was born in Strood Kent. The image is of a Bee Orchid. |Source=The original image is from Wild Flowers, though this is from the 2nd Edition. An ebay seller in the US was using this as advertising material to sell a print. |Date=1852 |Author=Anne Pratt |Permission=It is pre 1923 work of art, covered by Bridgman/Corel judgement. }} == Licensing == {{PD-old}}{{PD-art}} [[Category:Anne Pratt]] [[Category:Orchid]]

Does this look correct?
Simply use PD-Art, it already defaults to including PD-old. No need to have it twice. If you upload several images by Pratt, you might want to consider creating Creator:Anne Pratt and including it using {{Creator:Anne Pratt}}. Lupo 19:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Improved an image, now what?[edit]

I edited Image:!!!!Hikawa Jinjya0612070070.JPG to fix the problems listed. I uploaded it, but to a new filename Image:Hikawa Jinjya edited-1.jpg. What's the procedure now- as in what should be done with the old version? Petros471 13:08, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

An administrator will delete the original. If you have any more questions feel free to ask :) -- Editor at Largetalk 21:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


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thnak you very much fro your help looking forward to having from you

Thanks M

Bilder löschen[edit]

Hallo! Könnt ihr mir bitte die Bilder Image:TYT_innen.jpg, Image:TYT_oben.jpg, Image:TYT_unten.jpg, Image:TYT_vorne.jpg löschen? Danke! the preceding unsigned comment is by Thom16 (talk • contribs)

translation into English: Hi! Could you please delete the images Image:TYT_innen.jpg, Image:TYT_oben.jpg, Image:TYT_unten.jpg, Image:TYT_vorne.jpg for me? Thanks! [unsigned]
I've contacted the user on his website and asked him to indicate the reason for the deletion. I suspect some copyright problem... --Ibn Battuta 23:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Page and Category of the same name[edit]

Do a search for Kent- and you arrive at a page containing two galleries containing 4 images. It is in Category:Kent, with multiple subcategories and images. This is the location I want. Anyone doing a simple search will be disappointed. Am I right in thinking this is a remnant of former times? What the correct thing to do? Do I goto the 4 images and categorise them, then delete them from the galleries and transfer the heading task over to Category:Kent, and set up a redirect on Kent to Category:Kent, and hope that a friendly bot will notice, and erase the page? Am I right to suspect this 'feature' will occur for each of the English Counties.....

If I understand you right, you entered "Kent" in the field in the left column and then hit "enter" or clicked on "Go", right? And then you ended up on the page "Kent" - although that page is rather uninteresting because far more information is in the category of the same name, right?
Technically, that's no problem - you searched for a page, you got the page of the name. And no, please don't erase anything - it's completely okay to have pages within categories. (It's true that some pages are badly structured, but deleting them might still be a rather "hot" topic...)
That being said, I completely understand your frustration: While the software does what it's supposed to, this software is obviously designed for Wikipedias etc. in which pages not categories) are of primary concern. Given that that's different on the Commons, I agree that the situation is not satisfying. Question to all: Would it be possible (and desirable) to change the software so that categories are shown when you click on "Go"/"enter" - and pages are only shown in the general search (i.e. simply reversing the logarithm for pages and categories, or however a computer geek may say that :o))... ? I for my part would clearly support such a change: If a page exists within a category, it remains accessible. If only a category exists, that will be displayed. If only a page exists, that's still accessible through the "general search"... --Ibn Battuta 23:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

image deletion[edit]

Someone's deleted the image Image:University of Virginia Cavalier mascot.jpg - unfortunately without ever informing the uploader (also known as me). So what's the matter? The deletion log says "derivative work". What's the derivative work? The image had a valid license (which had been verified at this very help desk), so I'm slightly confused about the entire affair. Thanks for your responses. --Ibn Battuta 23:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

PS: I've seen it was Polarlys who's deleted it. I've contacted him and hope to hear more soon. Sorry for having posted to the help desk. --Ibn Battuta 23:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Thumbnail isnt showing up[edit]

Two of my images in this category are not showing up. Any ideas? Corpx 09:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know but I learned how to fix it. I fixed one of them successfully. Try to fix the other one. (Note the additional 'xxx', anything will do here. HandigeHarry 09:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Worked, thanks! Corpx 10:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Problem when trying to log in[edit]

I can't log in to my account: when I try, I get the message that I've entered an incorrect password, although I use the same (and correct) password as I've allways used. I can't get a new password either since there is no e-mail address recorded for my username. How can I get a new password and keep my account (I don't want to open a new account)? BjörnF ( 16:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC))

I'm not sure that you can, since we have no way to prove you are Bjö we? You really should set email addresses in your accounts... --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Problem uploading videos[edit]

Uploading a video file I got an error. What video formats and what maximal sizes are possible?

Commons:File_types#Video, pretty sure it's still 20mb. There are ways of uploading bigger material, if you're really keen. Or else you can split the work in parts - part 1, part 2, etc. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Publications using Commons photos[edit]

A book recently came out using a number of my photos I uploaded to Commons. I assume we have a list of such things somewhere? If so I can't seem to find it right now, so a pointer in the right direction would be appreciated. -- Infrogmation 22:34, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

This was recently talked about on the Village pump, and seems to me like a good idea. We need a category adding template with a parameter pointing the use. It could then be added to talk pages of images used in a notable (to be defined...) place. --Para 22:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Can't find it anymore, but was very amused to find one of my photos used last summer on the Department of Homeland Security homepage as part of a news item. -Aude (talk | contribs) 00:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Para - what about just a page? commons:our media in use? pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Unable to upload images[edit]

I've not contributed to Wikipedia/Wikimedia before. I've tried on several occasions to upload my own photographs that I'd like to use to add to some Wikipedia pages. Despite following all instructions correctly as far as I can tell, I just get a never-ending 'hour glass equivalent' in my firefox browser after clicking upload until the page finaly goes completly blank. As far as I know, I haven't succesfully added a single image. I'e read all the existing FAQs that I've been able to find but have had no luck.

Any ideas? Thanks. Giantant007 09:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

What size are the images? Try uploading a very small file first as a test. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 06:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I've just tried again with a 46kb .jpg file and the same thing happened - long delay and then a blank screen. I regularly upload wildlife images to a forum and haven't experienced this sort of thing before. No error messages, just a long delay and then a blank page. Giantant007 11:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Could you delete an image for me?[edit]

I accidently uploaded the wrong image for Pied_kinghfisher_started_diving.jpg. There was also a typo in the filename. Could you please delete this as my account is too new? Thank you --Mehmet Karatay 10:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

✓ Done Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm afraid I've uploaded another wrong image. Could you move Yellow-billed_stork_standing_2.jpg to Yellow_billed_stork_standing.jpg? How long is it before a new user can do this themselves? Thanks Mehmet Karatay 10:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Never. It is easy to create, but you need a moderator's help to remove. HandigeHarry 11:35, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Your choice of course, but are you sure this is a useful move? The name Image:Yellow-billed_stork_standing_2.jpg seems OK to me since the bird's name is hyphenated. More generally speaking, what you are looking for are templates {{rename}} and {{bad name}}. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll look through some FAQs to figure out how to use those templates then. I would still like to make the move as I don't have a Yellow-billed_stork_standing.jpg. Well I do, but it shows the wrong bird. I chose the wrong file when I was uploading. I've only just realised that I put an underscore in instead of a hyphen in the previous post, oops. Thank you for the advice. Mehmet Karatay 12:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, I'll perform the move. Concerning {{rename}} and {{bad name}}, their use is very easy. Everything is explained on the template pages. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I did try to overwrite the image first, but was told my account is too new and to ask here. Mehmet Karatay 12:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

request move to edit (new account in commons)[edit]

Hi, I uploaded Image:Whitehouseportraitjackie_curvecorrected.jpg which should replace Image:Whitehouseportraitjackie.jpg. My account is too new to do the edit directly.

Thank you!

I think in this case will be good idea to keep both images: original and improved. --EugeneZelenko 14:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Adding a subcategory[edit]

In the category "Nativity scenes by country" there are 4 subcategories. They are for Nativity scenes of Germany, Italy, Poland, and Spain. How do I get a subcategory added for "Nativity scenes of the United States"? the preceding unsigned comment is by World Journalist (talk • contribs) 00:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Create the new category, and in the edit box, link to Category:Nativity scenes by country by doing [[Category:Nativity scenes by country|United States]]. Note that you do not need to use the sortkey if you don't want to; it's recommended though.  V60 干什么? · VContribs 03:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. I read up on the sortkey and, unfortunately, the instructions are beyond my understanding. When uploading a picture, for a category I put in the category as you suggested. It did nothing to create a subcategory, however it placed the photo on the Nativity scenes by country page but there's no United States subcategory where the photo really should be. When I read the pages on creating a category, I can't figure how to work a subcategory into a category. Everything seems to reference making a category but the category already exists. Any help will be appreciated. Bill --World Journalist 21:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


What purpose does the template "" serve?? We already have the {{ru|... template, which is the same for all languages (for which they exist). This yellow thing seems distracting, but doesn't even use cyrillic. Any reason for using it?? --Ibn Battuta 11:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

It's just a hangover from an older system. And please don't use it, people should use the {{ru}} style language-code text-inclusion templates always. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 14:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
{{Русский}} (as {{English}} and other) is clearly marked as deprecated. I think background highlighting was used to distinguish from plain text ru:. Sure, you could replace it with {{ru}} manually or with bot. --EugeneZelenko 14:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Some words to let you know that {{Русский}} is deprecated. That is why it has the yellow background (and a tooltip text), in order to catch the attention if mistakenly used. All pages using it have now been checked and it should not be linked any more.
Please be careful if you use bots to replace deprecated language templates, as the text following the deprecated template should go inside the new template but has no formal/standard delimiter... :)
-- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 10:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

new image for Valparaiso Port (Chile).jpg[edit]

I just uploaded a new picture for Valparaiso Port (Chile).jpg, but I am not allowed to save it under this name, because my account is new. I saved it as "Valparaiso Port (Chile) - new.jpg". So could please somebody update it. I think the new picture is of better quality and much more curren (January 2007). Thanks --Luigi bosca 17:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Uploading a new version of a photo should only be used for the same images. These are different. As the image is not used on many wikis, it would be better to replace it imho. guillom 10:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I have replaced the image on wikis. guillom 10:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Template bug?[edit]

I found Image:Jamescromwell.jpg on en wiki [7]. I copied the template on there, {{CopyrightedFreeUse-Link|}} but when the file was uploaded on here, instead of saying the courtesy link should be to, it says it should be to wikipedia. Why is this? Entheta 01:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The difference was coming from the template: the version on Commons was only working with the link to Wikipedia. I have corrected the template so as to allow another URL as parameter. guillom 09:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Help Moving Image[edit]

Hi, I'd like to upload Map of Australia and New Zealand coloured.png to replace Map of Australia and New Zealand.png, but am unable to because my account is too new. Could someone with more access move it across? Thanks, --Mdmanser 02:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

These images are quite different, I think it's better to leave them as separate files. guillom 09:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Mac OS X Screenshot[edit]

Hello. I have a screenshot of Mac OS X's default desktop, to add to the Commons for use in Spanish Wikipedia. What would be the appropriate lisense? Please contact me on English Wikipedia at Curran H, or on Spanish Wikipedia at Guillermo Curran. Thanks a lot. CurranH 14:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, you can't upload screenshots of copyrighted software on Commons. See Commons:Licensing#Screenshots for details. --EugeneZelenko 14:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

PD-old templates with different requirements here and at English Wikipedia[edit]

I'm confused by the fact that the {{PD-old}} template here at Commons says life of the author plus 70 years, whereas the same template at English Wikipedia says life of the author plus 100 years. It seems that if someone died in, say, 1934, you can just upload his work here and use it freely at en. The same applies to the {{PD-art}} template here and the same one at English Wikipedia. Obviously, I must be missing something. ElinorD 22:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

License for cropped picture[edit]

I have uploaded Image:Douglas adams cropped.jpg, which is a crop of Image:Douglas Adams (ApacheCon).jpg. I wasn't sure what license to use. Could someone check whether I've done this OK or not, and if not, say what the right procedure is? Thanks. Carcharoth (Commons) 22:59, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I think will be good idea to keep original license ({{cc-by-2.0}}). You should mention author of original image and yourself as authors. --EugeneZelenko 14:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I think I've made the changes correctly. Can someone check? Carcharoth (Commons) 23:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyright for book covers and title pages[edit]

I need some guidance about book covers and title pages. If copyright expires 70 (or 100? — see my question above) years after the author's death, that's easy to determine in the case of somebody writing a poem, or taking a photo, or making a drawing. But I imagine that the design of a book cover is usually attributed to the publishing house, rather than to a particular person, so how do we work out death plus 70 (or 100) years?

Also, with title pages, what is it that is copyrighted, assuming that there's no actual drawing? Is it the wording ("Emma: A Novel in three volumes by the author of Pride and Prejudice" etc.)? Or is it the design (lovely ornate, squiggly letters)?

The reason I ask is that I am working on the article Come Rack! Come Rope! at English Wikipedia. I have taken, but not uploaded, a photo of the book cover and one of the title page. The book was published in 1912, and my copy, which I photographed, is the first edition (British). The author died in 1914 (which partly explains my question above, as he's dead more than 70 years, but less than 100). The title page has no illustrations; it's just text, saying the name of the novel, the author, what else he wrote, who published it. It might be comparable to something like Image:Emma.jpg. The book cover is also free of illustrations — just a red hardback book with the title, author, and publisher in gold lettering. ElinorD 23:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

british so published in the uk? Well under UK law the length of the copyright would be last of the principle authors to die +70.Geni 14:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Elinor, I would go ahead and upload it and tag it as {{PD-old}}. The title at least is a work of the author, and is PD since 1985. The UK has a copyright on typographical arrangement, but that runs out 25 years after the publication, so that's fine since 1937, assuming that "typographical arrangement" could even be protected back then. And judging from your description, the whole thing is probably {{PD-ineligible}} anyway. Lupo 06:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that, Geni and Lupo. I have uploaded the two images. ElinorD 07:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
But you should use {{PD-self}} or one of the other self-licenses on the second one. It's a photo of a PD three-dimensional object. You do have a copyright on that photo (though not on the book, obviously). Lupo 08:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. Thank you, Lupo. I hope everything is correct now. ElinorD 20:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

preview of denial[edit]

I want that my text about Preview Of Denial should be published on wikipedia but how should i do to send it there?

Simple answer. Go to Wikipedia (not commons).
In the search box- type the title- press go.
A page will come up saying that this title doesn't exist- and asks you if you wish to start one.
On the same page is an edit box- type the text in the edit box. Write a one line summary- press :Show preview. When you are happy. Press save page.
But-- your question is written in such a way, that it suggests you have not spent much time researching how Wikipedia works, and you are strongly advised to look at other articles first, then experiment in the Sandbox. ClemRutter 12:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

linking to images[edit]

Why can't i figure out how to link to commons images from english wikipedia? Murderbike 03:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

For images on Commons you use normal image code; for example, on the English wikipedia use the format [[Image:Image.jpg]]. If wikipedia has no image named "Image.jpg" it will default to the Commons image. This works on all projects.
The way to link to other project pages' vs. adding interwiki links to things is different. To link to an article on a wikipedia use the format [[w:this page]]; this sends the user to the article named, in their default language. To add an interwiki link use [[en:this page]] (replacing "en" with the language code you want). To link to a page on a specific language wikipedia, for example the German wikipedia, you use [[:de:this page]] (again replacing "de" with the language code you want). You can also use long formats; [[Wikipedia:this page]], [[Wikibooks:This Book]], etc.
To link to a page on wikipedia in the Wikipedia namespace, you can use one of two formats: [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:This page]], or [[w:Wikipedia:This page]]. The same goes for all projects. -- Editor at Largetalk 05:04, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Uploading modified GFDL images[edit]

When I modify a GFDL licensed image and I want to upload in Commons, how I can quote the first author? the preceding unsigned comment is by Demostene119 (talk • contribs)

When uploading the file under a new name you should provide a link to the original file as well as mentioning original author (e.g. by using a wikilink to his userpage). Ideally you would then put your own name and just put some brief summery of what you modified. If you upload the image under the same name, just use the upload field as summary and update the image description afterwards. --Matt314 14:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Improved Coat of Arms of Mexico...[edit]

I just finished a better verctor image of the coat of arms of Mexico (and flag) that someone else uploaded some time ago: the versions already uploaded are here: The two were uploaded by user Ysangkok. (

Mine is a vectorized version of the png image created by Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán that can be found here:

So, basically, my questions are: Can I replace the svg images already uploaded?

Is there any copyright violation in the fact that that I vectorized and made some minor changes to Mr Gabino's original png file?

Would user Ysangkok have anything against me replacing his/her version of the coat of arms of Mexico?

To answer the three questions
  • Yes, you can replace it
  • No (but I know Mr. Gambino, so I can ask)
  • No (even if he does, he cannot do anything about it).
User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 20:05, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

After reading your kind answers (for which I thank you), I'm now stuck at the upload process.. I just don't get how to make the image reachable (the section that says "The following pages link to this file" I don't find where to find that copyright thing that says that since my vector image is a non official drawing of the mexican coat of arms it is granted no copy right, thus it is public domain. Now, I think I got the category part... I just click the link below that says [[category:]] and after the semi colom I just write the categories it falls into... right?

if you want to see my file, go here: (provided it has not yet been deleted due to wrong uploading procedures...

So, Now my new questions are:

How do I add the "The following pages link to this file" section to my file?

How do I find the right licencing?

Since this is heraldry, when uploading, should I select the "it's from somewhere else category to upload my file?

Am I correct regarding the categories?

and last, but not least, maybe I didn't know where to look, but I couldn't find a set of step by step instructions on how to successfuly upload a file and add everything it needs to be reachable by all... so, the question here is: Are there any such instructions?

Instructions on vectorizing raster image using Inkscape?[edit]

I need some help on vectorizing an PNG (raster) image using Inkscape. Here's the image: [8]. I need it in SVG format using Inkscape, as well as the image (not the background) colored red. I am working on a map project, where I need similar images like this vectorized, however, in different colors. Please feel free to leave step-by-step instructions on my talk page or have them e-mailed them to me at Thanks. --Imdanumber1 20:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't see the link, can you put it back up. I have a technique that I have used for maps which I'll gladly share if it is what you want. See my User page.ClemRutter 08:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Try now: [9] I'll be more that happy to receive assistance for this project. --Imdanumber1 14:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


I'd like to submit a word & definition to the wiktionary. This word & definition was coined by a small group of people (including me). Which licensing option should I select?


You may wish to ask your question at Wiktionary:Information desk, where editors more experienced with Wiktionary's structure will be able to answer your question. --Iamunknown 03:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Taking over an unused Username[edit]

Is it possible to take over username Daisy? My username on Czech Wikipedia is Sedmikráska, which means Daisy in English. I think Daisy is a better name then Sedmikraska (not a Czech word) or Sedmikráska (possible problems with an accent). User Daisy on Commons has added only 1 picture and he is inactive for more than 1 year.

Could you answer me on my Czech Wikipedia page, please? Thanks.

You could add request on Commons:Changing username. However, we don't usurp user name from users who made useful contributions. See Commons:Changing username#Requests that cannot currently be fulfilled. --EugeneZelenko 14:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Eugene, thank you for your information, I have choosed user name Sedmi. --Sedmi 08:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Gallery policy[edit]

Hello, is there any page with policy about galleries? Are they supposed to showcase the best images of a certain subject, while the categories give an exhaustive list? CommonGuy 18:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

There's not much of a policy; just use common sense.  V60 干什么? · VContribs 21:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Coming from wikipedia, I'm used to there being a lot of documentation, but it seems thats a bit different here. CommonGuy 22:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
True. It is about time that we decide that galleries should be collections of the best of certain subjects, and that all images should be properly categorized. Kjetil r 22:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're mocking me here? CommonGuy 23:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Nor am I, and I'm a bit frustrated these folks can't just give you a straight answer. What I would say is, because it would be pointless for galleries to duplicate categories (which they would if one merely put all of the images from the category into the gallery), galleries should ideally present the content in a way different from a category. One of my favorite galleries is Friedrich Kellner, which presents the images in a very aesthetically pleasing way. You should try to create them in a way that permits multilingualism (which the Wikimedia Commons is) (which that gallery is IMO not too great at), but let yourself be creative with them! They are supposed to be different than categories, so present them differently.  :-) --Iamunknown 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
No, you're only stepping into the biggest topic of debate Commons has ever had. There's discussion about it all the time, and people still prefer to do it in their own way, as was shown in this old vote. Any decision seems impossible. For me personally it doesn't matter as long the image is linked somewhere where it can be found, but people in the Commons:WikiProject Tree of Life especially have strong opinions on this. --Para 23:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
No, not at all, I am dead serious. I'm a category guy myself, and find it annoying when people put new uploads into galleries but not into categories. Kjetil r 09:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanations. CommonGuy 20:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

DjVu controls and page extraction[edit]

Hi, I uploaded my first DjVu image file (Image:On the expression of a number in the form 𝑎𝑥²+𝑏𝑦²+𝑐𝑧²+𝑑𝑢².djvu) yesterday and I can't seem to figure out how to enable all those DjVu controls. Furthermore, when I do page extraction (such as On the expression of a number in the form 𝑎𝑥²+𝑏𝑦²+𝑐𝑧²+𝑑𝑢².djvu), I always get "Error creating thumbnail". Do I just have to wait until all the image pages are generated in the commons image cache, or do I have to do something else? I intend to use this image together with ProofreadPage on the English Wikisource which doesn't work right now, probably for the same reason. The image itself was created using the djvulibre suite and can be viewed fine with the djview program. Thanks for your help.--GrafZahl (talk) 10:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


I am looking for a way to transfer information from the mobile phone to back up my information on a PC computer. What cables would I need?

Please try en:Wikipedia:Reference desk. --EugeneZelenko 14:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Please, rename 2 files[edit]

Please someone rename these two files: Image:Klaipėda velŝipo 'Švyturys' 2.jpg and Image:Klaipėda velŝipo 'Švyturys' 1.jpg because they are incorrect. The name of the ship is 'Meridianas', not 'Švyturys'. "Švyturys" is the name of brewery which advertisement is on the sails.

To prove that I add a link

It is a picture of the ship Meridianas and the restaurant of the same name.

Just re-upload images under correct names and place {{bad name}} on old ones. --EugeneZelenko 14:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Converting to SVG, method to follow.[edit]

Hello, in the next weeks I may convert a few images to SVG. I see there's a lot of work here. Opening a few images at random however I noticed some (most, really) are unused. What should I do with unused images? My approach would be to check their upload date and authors contribs and mark as delete if too old. What is the syntax to do that?
MaxDZ8 16:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Old unused files do not get deleted any more. It gives rise to a lot of complaints from some particular Wikipedias. -- Bryan (talk to me) 17:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Ouch. Well, I'll convert only used files and leave unlinked alone.
MaxDZ8 20:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Correctly Uploading Mexican coat of arms[edit]

I'm now stuck at the upload process.. I just don't get how to make the image reachable (the section that says "The following pages link to this file" I don't find where to find that copyright thing that says that since my vector image is a non official drawing of the mexican coat of arms it is granted no copy right, thus it is public domain. Now, I think I got the category part... I just click the link below that says [[category:]] and after the semi colom I just write the categories it falls into... right?

if you want to see my file, go here: (provided it has not yet been deleted due to wrong uploading procedures...

So, Now my new questions are:

How do I add the "The following pages link to this file" section to my file?

How do I find the right licencing?

Since this is heraldry, when uploading, should I select the "it's from somewhere else category to upload my file?

Am I correct regarding the categories?

If I want to upload it into spanish and english wikimedia commons, do I have to do the whole thing twice?

If I upload this image here, can I upload it in other image sharing sites?

and last, but not least, maybe I didn't know where to look, but I couldn't find a set of step by step instructions on how to successfuly upload a file and add everything it needs to be reachable by all... so, the question here is: Are there any such instructions?

  • "The following pages link to this file" is used if your file is added to one or more gallery.
  • You will find licencing information on Commons:Licensing and Commons:Copyright tags.
  • To describe your image in different languages put Internationalization templates like {{en|Welcome to the Wikimedia Commons}}, {{es|Bienvenido a Wikimedia Commons}} to your image. Don't upload the file twice.
  • Step by Step information you will find here.

--GeorgHH 09:35, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Picture of monument[edit]

Can I upload photo of monument in publicly available place (Monument to David Bek, c. Kapan, Syunik region, Republic of Armenia), if it is permitted under Armenian Law. Thanks. --DraculaARM 05:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

You can, if author(s) of monument died 50 years ago or monument is not main subject of image. See articles 16 and 26 of Armenia copyrights law. --EugeneZelenko 14:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

small preview image[edit]

I've uploaded my image and added links to it in some category pages and galleries... however, wherever it's posted, the small preview image won't show at all... just a blank box where it should be.. how come? Is there something extra that I'm not doing?. Besides, of all the pages where I posted a link to my image, only one shows at the links section of the page of my image... does it take some time to update or am I missing something again? Thanx for your help the preceding unsigned comment is by Radikian (talk • contribs)

If you have categoriesed it right (wich is [[Categorie:>>Whatever<<]]) then you should see your uploaded picture soon.
Sometimes it takes some time that you can see the image. If you can see your picture on the imagepage or when you click on the blue link below im sure you'll see your picture soon.
--D-Kuru 09:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Video content - getting a free image[edit]

Can someone who is good at getting screen captures from video streams help out for Wikinews? See here for an image I'd like to see replaced with a free one. --Brianmc 09:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Sure, if you know where the white house stream is located. -- Bryan (talk to me) 10:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

License tag categories[edit]

{{PD-self}}, {{PD-user}}, and similar tags like {{PD-user-en}} are not showing up in Category:License tags, although they do have the category link on their pages. Anyone else having this problem and/or know how to fix it? --Selket 16:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I think this might have something to do with a database lag. At lease I see {{PD-user}} and {{PD-user-en}}.  V60 干什么? · VContribs 16:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
They are in Category:License tags, but remember that the listed templates are sorted, beginning with capitals like PD-China, PD-USGov to PD-author, PD-user. --GeorgHH 16:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


Is this a copyrighted picture or not?
The text says that it was published in 1925 and so it could be {{PD-old}}. In the english Wikipedia this picture is licenced under {{Non-free poster}}. What is the right licence?
--D-Kuru 21:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

depends. If it was published outside the US probably not PD. If it was published within the US without copyright registration or notice it could be PD.Geni 23:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The article where this image is included says "Running time: 93 minutes; Country: United States"
So I think it's public domain - is this correct?
--D-Kuru 23:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
depends does it have a copyright notice?Geni 20:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'm not really sure.
English Wikipedia: "Film poster for the 1925 film "The Phantom of the Opera". The poster is taken from a screen capture on the Phantom of the Opera "Ultimate Edition" DVD. in the bonus features section."
What now?
--D-Kuru 08:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

External application edit[edit]

I'm trying to edit an image file with an external application, using the java version of the helper application (“XExternalEditor”). All seems to work normally, the helper application says that the upload was successful and yet the image didn't change. I'm running Firefox 2 on Windows XP Home. I was able to find out that the commons site sends some HTTP data back, which doesn't seem to be processed by XExternalHelper, though. Does anyone have an idea what my problem might be? Greetings --Quilbert 13:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Legality of PC screen grabs of abandonware run on emulators[edit]

I'm intending to upload some screen grabs of old computer games run on an emulator. These are .png images at the same or similar resolution as the originals. Is this okay or nay? --ChrisJMoor 22:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

generaly not. The copyright still exists even if it is not currently being actively enforced.Geni 02:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Theater photos[edit]

Is a photo of a modern production of The Tempest OK to upload? Or would the costumes make it a derivative work?

The photo itself is CC-By-2.0. — Celithemis 00:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

How fancy were the costumes? Basicaly if you removed bits of them could they still function as clothing?Geni 02:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
The photos might also be a derivative work of the stage design. Lupo 07:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
This is what I had in mind. There are no painted backdrops or anything -- just the interior of the New Globe -- but some of the costumes are fairly ornate. — Celithemis 07:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hideki Tojo signature[edit]

Hello, I'm new on commons, just uploaded a processed version of Hideki Tojo's signature. Because my username is new it won't let me verwrite, could someone please do it for me? Image:Hideki_Tojo_signature_processed.jpg needs to become Image:Hideki_Tojo_signature.jpg See article [10] Javit 17:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Other text visible below picture than filename when picture refers to Category[edit]

To illustrate what I mean: on the page of Category:Deutzia you see media. One of these has as filename Ligustrum_vulgare01.jpg The image has nothing to do with Ligustrum, but is a Deutzia. How can the link [[Category:Deutzia]] be modified that on the page of Category:Deutzia you see text that differs from the filename? --Wouter 22:10, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Licensing for a rotated and cropped version of a CC-SA image?[edit]

Today I uploaded Image:2005 Evo at Deal's Gap 1.jpg and Image:2005 Evo at Deal's Gap 2.jpg. The photographer licensed the photos under Creative Commons Attribution Sharealike and proof of permission was forwarded to After some discussion at the w:Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution article we decided that a cropped and rotated version of one of these images should be used.

I'm not exactly sure how to set up the licensing for a cropped and rotated version of a CC-SA image, though. Am I the "author" of the cropped image? Should all author and licensing stuff remain exactly the same as in the originals, with just a "Cropped version of x" note in the description? I appreciate any advice. TomTheHand 20:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope, you are not the author. Just keep all information from the original file, and add something like "Cropped version of <image>" -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
That was incredibly fast. Thanks very much, Bryan! I do a lot of editing on Wikipedia, but I have almost no experience with images, uploading, and licensing, and these are the first two images I've ever uploaded to Commons. TomTheHand 21:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)