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There are some excellent pictures of the Gulf of Bothnia at Flickr. However, the Flickr lickr registrations look difficult and isn't just a case of "I want to upload a couple of images" if you try to be one. Is there any simple way of uploading some certain pictures from Flickr without a registration or is it prohibited? --Harris Morgan 21:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

We answer questions about how to upload files to Wikimedia Commons. If you want to upload files to Flickr, that is not our concern. Notice that every image you can see on your monitor is stored in a memory of your computer. --Juiced lemon 16:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
You don't have to be registered to Flickr in order to uploas images from ther to Commons. Just click on "all sizes" and save the "original" size to your computer and then upload it using Upload work from Flickr. Just make sure that the flickr license is compatible wiht the requirements here on Commons./Lokal_Profil 16:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Lokal Profil, I think Juiced Lemon misunderstood me... I should have phrased it a bit better :S. -- 21:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Could someone tell me where the CC-BY or other copyright status is for these pictures [1], [2]; I'm not sure where to find it. --Harris Morgan 21:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Under "Additional information" both of the images say © All rights reserved. They are thus not cc licensed and therfore cannot be uploaded to commons. To find only images which are allowed go to advanced search and tick "Only search within Creative Commons-licensed photos", also tick the two boxes about commercial use and modifications. /Lokal_Profil 22:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
And in addition to that advice, maintain a healthy awareness that not all Flickr users understand or care about copyright laws, so use common sense to spot cases where the Flickr uploader clearly isn't the copyright holder (professional-looking images of celebrities taken with several different cameras should ring a few alarm bells, for example). LX (talk, contribs) 22:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Very good help, guys :) --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Harris Morgan 17:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Obiects not shawn in SVG images resized


Hi, I'm not experienced with SVG format because I'm begun a few days ago with Inkscape. Yesterday I've posted the SVG version of two pictures (original size 800x600 and 800x450), but at small size not all the objects are visible. P.a. Image:Ichneumonidae.svg is correctly shawn at sizes bigger than 350px, but many important details are lost when the image is shawn with small sizes (see the sample).

Is that normal? --gian_d 16:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I resolved: I created a smaller copy compatible with the resolution. --gian_d 17:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Images already up loaded from Wikipedia

Is it possible to transfer images straight accross from Wikipedia, as uploading again would be a lot of work. --Adam.J.W.C. 13:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Not really, sorry. (O - RLY?) 13:17, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

png thumb

Hi, in Image:European kinship system de.svg, the PNG thumb still is that of the first version, although the file has gone through three corrective changes. How do you instruct the bots to refresh the thumb? Cheers --Quilbert 02:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to follow that link --EugeneZelenko 14:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Reusing images under LGPL

(Same question asked at the Village Pump) What are my obligations when reusing an image that was released under the LGPL? Cheers, bdesham  19:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Please move West Haven town historical sign(fullRes).jpg to West Haven town historical sign.jpg

I uploaded the wrong version of image:West Haven town historical sign.jpg. I have since uploaded the correct, full resolution version to image:West Haven town historical sign(fullRes).jpg. Please move image:West Haven town historical sign(fullRes).jpg to image:West Haven town historical sign.jpg, which I can't do at this time because my account is under 4 days old. Karl Hahn 14:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. (And deleted duplicate) --Matt314 15:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Statue copyright?

I want to upload a picture I took of a statue in a town square in the Czech Republic. When I try to, I come to a page that gives me the red hand, saying that it's not permitted. I looked at the copyright page here and, O my God, you've got to be kidding me, who can make sense of that junk? Common sense tells me that a public statue created in 1884 by a certain J. Stachovsky is not protected under anything like copyright law, but common sense also tells me that O.J. did it. What's the story? Milkbreath 15:45, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The two important questions are: What is the Czech Republics stand on Freedom of Panorama and what year did J. Stachovsky die. /Lokal_Profil 16:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

"Czech Republic Pictures, drawings, paintings, movies, etc. displaying a work permanently located in any public place (incl. streets, places, parks etc.) may be distributed without the original work's author's consent. The name of the author and the title of the work should always be indicated. The allowance does not apply to three-dimensional reproductions."

So I guess I'm in the clear as long as I credit him. Thanks, I wouldn't have been able to figure out where to look. By the way, do you suppose they meant "palaces" or "plazas" in the above where they have "places"? Milkbreath 16:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Talking text

Do commons or wikipedia work with or have any project page handling manually read in text for visually impaired? Micze 21:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean Category:Spoken Wikipedia? pfctdayelise (说什么?) 08:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Problem viewing Wikipedia pages

Using a Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop running XP Home Edition, IE 7, and the latest Java (Sun) updates I seem to be able to fully access Wikipedia pages and materials without problems.

However, using an older "emachines PC" running XP Home Edition, IE 6, and the latest Java updates, I'm able to view pages at Meta-Wiki, Wikibooks, Wikispecies, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikionary, Wikiquote and Wikiversity, but not at Wikipedia. None of the Wikipedia "pages" (for each tab) display like they should. Text and graphics around the periphery display just fine but the page data doesn't appear and visible links don't work. Curiously, clicking "Printable Version" lets me view a seemingly normal html-like page view for each page that wouldn't display.

I'm told the problem seemed to start when a Wimdows originated Java update was passed over and a user instead went to the Sun site and downloaded the latest Sun Java software. Prior to this the emachine computer displayed Wikipedia pages just fine.

Anyone able to give me some ideas as to how I might best troubleshoot and fix this?


Hi Pauls,
I don't know what this problem is, but I opened a bug report for you: bugzilla:10829. Hopefully a developer may be able to help you out. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 08:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Helmet designs

I've been creating svg representations of Formula One helmet designs - see Category:Formula One helmet designs for the works in question. However, on Wikipedia, someone said that these might have to be fair use. I thought these would be fine as I created them all myself and they are not derivatives of any existing work, but artistic interpretation of helmets that F1 drivers use. I'm sure everyone here knows more about copyright law than I do so I'd like to hear some opinions. Thanks. Readro 10:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Hm, tricky. Where was it someone suggested they might be fair use? (Or more accurately, the designs are copyrighted -> these are deriv works.)
How did you create them? By imitating a photograph? Do you have an example of a photograph you used? pfctdayelise (说什么?) 09:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Here is where the discussion took place. I create them by using photos as a reference, but only to get the basic pattern really. Damon Hill's was done from memory. Gugelmin's was using this I think, but adjusting the base colour from memory because it was only dark blue late in his career. For Schumacher's I used this as a reference. As you can see, they are not derivative works of the photos, they were only used for reference. Readro 11:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Help determining license.

What license would this picture come under? Image:Gtataskforcelogo.png APR 12:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Making a copy of a logo yourself doesn't mean you own the copyright. When your intent is to copy the design of the original logo, the logo's copyright holders own the copyright. So I think unfortunately this is not free. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 09:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Reuse in multimedia presentation

I am creating mutimedia presentations for my school to teach curriculum content. I have found several pictures from the Wiki site that I would like to use in the presentations. How do I get permission to use the images? I also intend to sell the presentations to teachers at other schools. Does permission extend to sale of presentations as long as I site the work? C the preceding unsigned comment was added by CBernhardt (talk • contribs)

That's really exciting! Great news to hear our work is being used.
All the works available here can be used without requesting permission (although people often like to be notified, but it's not a requirement). All works here can also be used for commercial use -- it's one of our requirements.
To know exactly what you need to do to meet the conditions of the license, we need to know which license the works you want to use refer to. Can you tell us the name of the work/s or the URL? Then we can check and give you the most relevant information. thanks --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 09:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

New to Commons, need help

Kasuga created a new version of Wikipe-tan which I've edited to fit a WikiProject on Wikipedia. I want to upload the images I've edited to Commons, but I don't know what to do in terms of the licensing and crediting Kasuga for the original illustration. What do I need to do? --04:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Willbyr

It sounds like you've created a derivative work of a Wikipe-tan image. That's fine, but it means you have certain obligations when you distribute the work (i.e. upload it here). To meet these obligations you should
  • release the work under the same license as the original, and
  • credit the original author. You can do this when you write the description/summary for your upload, by writing something like "This is a modified version of Image:original.jpg by User:Original author." Please link to the original image page/URL and use the author's username or name.
You can use the default upload form for a case like this.
Try uploading it and see how you go. If you have any more questions or want us to check over it when you're done, just post back here and we can do that. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 09:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Here's the image: Image:PortalNGE.PNG
Did I get everything right? Willbyr 12:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Nice work. It looks pretty good. I would just make two minor suggestions:
  • In future consider using a more descriptive title. You can use spaces and full words and stuff.
  • what was the title or URL of the original image? That needs to be included.
--pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


Ik heb de volgende afbeelding geplaatst op Commoms: Platform Progressief Wierden logo.gif, er is een geblokte achtergrond, dit was niet in mijn map afbeeldingen te zien, hoe kan dit en kan iemand dit wijzigen.--Okido 8 aug 2007 12:22 (CEST)

De afbeelding staat in de Category Gemeente Wierden--Okido 8 aug 2007 12:33 (CEST)

De blokjes duiden een transparante afbeelding aan: indien de afbeelding op een pagina gebruikt wordt, zal op de plek van de blokjes de achtergrondkleur verschijnen:
Platform Progressief Wierden logo.gif
Platform Progressief Wierden logo.gif
Platform Progressief Wierden logo.gif
Platform Progressief Wierden logo.gif
Dan een andere vraag: bent u een vertegenwoordiger van deze partij? -- Bryan (talk to me) 11:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

adding photos from open source games.

Hey I was wondering, is it allowable to add photos from free and open-source games such as Tremulous?

Help would be appreciated.

  • If its free and open source tag it as {{GPL}}. --Digon3 talk 17:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
{{free screenshot|license=GPL}} is more correct in this case. --EugeneZelenko 14:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Credit Line and License Text For Downloaded Art

When using/printing downloaded art (photos and/or illustrations) how should we show the credit line for art/artist/creator/photographer for art that is licensed under CC and/or GFDL? And we understand that CC (Creative Commons) does not require us to print the license itself, but GFDL does require us to print the GFDL license. Is this correct? Can we print the GFDL license in the back and refer to it in the credit line? Or, is it sufficient to just print the URL at wikimedia of the GFDL text in the credit line without the text itself? How should the credit line read exactly for CC or GFDL? Both? (~Very Confused. We cannot find anyplace on wikimedia/wikipedia where it specifies this plainly/flatly/clearly.) Thanks in advance for your assistance!

Since no-one else has answered, I'll give it a shot.
Yes with GFDL you have to include the complete copy of the license. And you can print it in the back and refer to it in the credit line. In the back you should also list the authors of the material.
In a cc-by license (the "by" means attribution) you have to mention the author.
For the credit line, well, just say what license it is licensed under.
But I am not a lawyer and this answer is not to be considered legal advice. If you want to be on the safe side, ask a lawyer.
Fred J 00:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
IMO you have the same understanding as me (so that probably rates as "very good"). See Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia for more details, but I think you're on the right track. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 15:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Panorama thumb unavailable

I have uploaded Image:Marseille vu de La Vesse.jpg and Image:Trinity College Facade.JPG but I can see them only in the full resolution page.

Can someone explain me what is the problem?


Nepomuk 09:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki can't create thumbs for images with size more then 4000 (I could be mistaken in actual number). --EugeneZelenko 14:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Are they progressive jpgs? If so please upload them saved as non-progressive jpgs. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 15:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Purging not working for gallery display

I've followed the instructions here to get this Image:Military manuevers south of Jerusalem 1914.jpg to display properly in my gallery here; e.g., one purge. It displays fine in this category. Multiple purges and hard refreshes later, it's still not displaying in the gallery. Ideas? --BrokenSphere 16:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

File:Http:// cn.gif

How to Cite Public Domain Images in a Book.

I have looked for an answer to this question in the FAQ, the Help Desk, and at the Village Pump. If I've missed it, could someone please direct me with a link? And, if the answer is not yet here, could someone please tell me how one would cite images labelled in the Commons as public domain (in particular, the engravings from Vesalius's De humani corporis fabrica [like this one:])? If an image is in the public domain, and no sort of licensing is indicated, who gets credit for it? The artist himself? This is my first submission, and I just started looking around in here yesterday, so excuse me, please, if I've missed something huge. Katie K 05:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

The page to help you should be Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia, however it's not entirely helpful in answering this.
Of course, the original artist should be acknowledged as the author. Whether the copyright has expired or not doesn't change that fact. For this case, I suggest putting a credit/caption line like Image from Andreas Vesalius's "De humani corporis fabrica" (1543), page 357. Available from Wikimedia Commons at . How is that? pfctdayelise (说什么?) 06:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

How to delete account?

How do I delete my own account?

It's not possible to delete accounts, sorry. You can just stop using it. Or you can request a namechange at COM:CHU. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

{{PD-US}} - image copyright law

Greetings! I just want to confirm one of my suspicions about the complicated US copyright law. User:Denis Barthel and I have had this discussion about the copyright of a 1908 botanical illustration published in Germany (see the image currently at en-Wikipedia). My understanding is that Wikimedia servers are hosted in the US so US copyright law applies across the board on all Wikimedia wikis, so placing this image on the de-wiki would not be in violation of German copyright law, correct? (De-wiki is effectively being published on the internet from a location in the US. At least that's my interpretation. Am I correct in assuming that? I have many more images I can scan and upload from that publication that would be of use for the en-wiki articles I'm creating. If I get a positive affirmation of the above, I'll transfer the existing images back to Commons and begin uploading additional scans. Thanks for your help! --Rkitko 20:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

It would depend on when it was first published in the US.Geni 11:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
To my knowledge, Das Pflanzenreich was never published in the US. It was wholly a German publication attempting to describe all plant families (it was never completed - see w:Adolf Engler#Plant taxonomy works) I didn't think it had to be published in the US in order to fall under the 1923 date stipulation. --Rkitko 13:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
{{PD-US}} applies only to U.S. works. I only skimmed over your discussion... apparently the author died in 1954. Hence his 1908 work is copyrighted in Germany (and other EU countries) until 2024. As a pre-1909 foreign publication, it would be PD in the U.S. The Commons' rule is that an image must be PD in both its source country and in the U.S. if it is to be hosted here under a PD claim. These images fail the "source country" part. They'd be fine at the English Wikipedia, which operates under U.S. law exclusively, but neither here nor at the German Wikipedia. Lupo 16:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Egg on my face! I wasn't aware of the Commons restriction that it must be PD in the source country as well. Thanks for explaining that clearly. I'll retreat back to Wikipedia and upload them there. Thanks again! --Rkitko 17:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Ednah Dow Littlehale Cheney

I have not used the commons yet but would like to use an image located at [3] for an article I started is this possible? Ednah Dow Littlehale Cheney Thanks,
Daytrivia 21:29, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

The image was published in the United States before 1923 and as such is public domain. You can upload it to Commons and tag it with {{PD-US}}. See Commons:Licensing for more information. -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Bryan. I'll give it a try. Daytrivia 03:29, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Image talk:West-euv-logo.jpg

  • why doesnt work the license like on [4]?
because that template only exists on the german wikipedia and commons views it as non free.Geni 10:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Image cleanup

I have cleaned up a few pictures in the "cleanup request" but when i try to upload them it says my account is not old enough. The pictures below has been cleaned up.

Commented out images which have been fixed /Lokal_Profil 23:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Micze 11:33, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Commented out images which have been fixed /Lokal_Profil 23:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Micze 00:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Commented out images which have been fixed /Lokal_Profil 09:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

Micze 20:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that an account has to be a couple of days old before you're allowed to upload images on top of old ones, to prevent vandalism. I'll sort out the ones above for you but once a few days have passed you should be able to do it yourself. /Lokal_Profil 16:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
For .jpg images that have been turned to .png images it's not possible to uppload on top of the old image. Instead just add {{Template:Superseded|Image:NewImage.png|Image has been cleaned up}} to the jpg image page. For the Deutsche_See-Logo.JPG image I'm unsure because the original image is a derivative work of a copyrighted image. /Lokal_Profil 17:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
In my humble opinion this is verry complicated. All i wanted to do was to clean up a few images to help. I was planning to do more but it take more time figuring out how i should sumbit the stuff than it actually take retouch the images. Micze 20:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, pretty soon, you will be able to update images directly (if they are the same file format). For ones which change file format, you can still let us know here at the Help desk and we will fix them up. We prefer that people do useful stuff with some assistance, rather than get defeated and stop altogether! We're good at the bureaucracy bit, and you're good at the image editing bit, so together it's a good team. :) --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Then i will wait until the replace starts to work. The easiest way i could imagine to get many pictures done is if i got a compressed archive with the pictures and included instructions for each image what cleaning request they have. I can easily process 100 pictures a day if it is just simple things like brushing away date stamps cropping and dirty b/w drawings. Micze 21:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC) /edit I did a few pictures anyway.
I've commented out the images that have been fixed but there are still some left. /Lokal_Profil 23:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I've tried to add tags to some of the pictures. I dont know how well it went. And the splitted images i have no idea how to tag.
The way you tagged the last ones looks good. For the split one you can do something similar to how I tagged Image:Current_coins_of_West_Europe_XIIIth-XVIth_Centuries.jpg. Just don't forget to remove the ifc template from the original image and link to the cleaned one, otherwise no one will find the images you've worked on ;) /Lokal_Profil 20:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Category:Second Life

Moved here from COM:VP Siebrand 09:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello, i manage images about video game on Commons, and i would like to have help for this catégory. According to {{Second Life}}, i understand author of an object into Second Life own the right of his objects, and we must have his agreements to release a free screenshot. So who own the right of these screenshots ?

I think here (Image:SL The Capital (68,135,22).jpg) we must have agreement of the person who create the screenshot, the person who create the avatar, and the person who create swimming pool. It's possible that hundred persons created little objects displayed in this screenshot ? What must we do for these screenshots ?

Thanks a lot. ~ bayo or talk 16:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I think this is just like the legality of a panorama shot. It depends on the focus of the picture. If the person is taking a picture of their avatar lounging in a pool, the focus is not the pool, it is mere background. It is, in my opinion, similar to taking a picture in Times Square, New York, where it is impossible to avoid taking photographs of ads in the panorama. Also, the person may have designed the pool. It is not uncommon for SL characters to have elaborate mansions. -Nard 22:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Please HELP!

I upload Image:Blue kworldclock.png but make a little mistake but when I use in Wikipedia it is not a little mistake it is a grave mistake. So how can I change the picture or make new version of the picture.--Passawuth 09:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I edited the image. is it OK now?
In general you can upload a new version of a file by scrolling to the bottom of the image page and clicking the link "upload a new version of this file". However if your account is < 4 days old you can only do this for images that you have uploaded. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

NavFrame Does not work properly in the Commons

Image from en-WP

I uploaded this image from the English Wikipedia to the Commons and I'd like somebody with more experience here to check if I've made any mistake. THis was the first time I uploaded an image from another project, therefore I'm not sure if I forgot to add any information. Thank you! --منش‎ 15:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. We need a lot of people to help transfer images from en.wikipedia. I've looked at the image and this is how I would've done it differently. The differences are small and not very important, but this is the way I have seen it done. By the way, have you heard of CommonsHelper? That is a very handy tool for transfering images. Samulili 17:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Samulili gives you perfect advice. :) A very important thing is to link to the image page name on English Wikipedia. Using CH means it is done automatically, you just copy and paste. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, thank you so far. And I've really chosen the correct licence ;) ? --منش‎ 13:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Ah. not quite. I fixed it up. This is another good reason to use CommonsHelper - it will take care of figuring out the right template for you. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
So, thanks to both of you. In future I'll use this tool - I've already tried it, that's really handy! --منش‎ 20:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Image will not display

I transferred Image:DoublePenetration.svg from enwiki, but the image page won't show the image. I tried visiting, extrapolating from a post above, but it will not display that way, either. If I change the 782 to 750 a smaller version displays, so it doesn't seem to be image errors. I assume that there is some other step I'm meant to take in clearing the cache or something, but I don't know what that might be. I thought there was a help page on this topic, but I couldn't readily find it. A pointer to that help page and any assistance convincing the image to display would be appreciated. Thanks. --Sopoforic 23:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Further: A thumnail of it used in a wikipedia article (this: near the bottom) also does not display. Someone changed it for a PNG version stating that it didn't work in firefox. I checked in internet explorer, and it doesn't seem to work in IE either, though, so I don't think it is a firefox issue. --Sopoforic 23:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

It magically started working--I suspect the issue was that I was creating addresses like when I should have done I'll keep it in mind in the future. --Sopoforic 23:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Alecempire1cropped.jpg to Image:Alecempire1.jpg

Hello, I am new to the Commons so I am unable to replace images. I have just uploaded Image:Alecempire1cropped.jpg and wish for it to replace Image:Alecempire1.jpg if possible. It is merely a cropped version of the existing image.


Dwdmang 16:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

✓ Done pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Images I uploaded

Being fairly new to Wikipedia I have not been able to figure out how to find images that I have uploaded. I use two images in a page for Prospect Hill Cemetery (Washington, DC). One I uploaded as Prospect_Hill_House.jpg and the other one as Prospect_hill_gravesites.jpg. The links work fine on the actual page. But when I go to the Commons and search for Prospect Hill I can only see the gravesite image. The other one never shows. Where can I look up as to how this really works? Thanks --wenzela 17:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Wenzela,
Welcome to Wikimedia Commons. Note that this is a separate site to Wikipedia, so if you uploaded any files there, you won't be able to find them here.
According to the logs, you have only uploaded one file here: Image:Prospect Hill Graves.JPG
You can see all the images you've uploaded here in your Gallery. (There's a link to it at the top of your user and user talk page.)
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions please let me know. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Edited image. Now what?

I edited USB types.jpg. I removed the coin and put in a metric scale. How should I reupload it? With the same name? What about the credits? -- Techtonic 02:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Please upload it as a separate image and put a link from the coin one to the metric one. When you write "source" for your image please provide the name of this coin image as the source. Since the author has donated the image into the public domain, you can put whatever you like, although people tend to "respect" the original license terms and so in this case would probably also donate to the public domain. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Perfect! Thanks, image uploaded and used on the Wikipedia USB page. -- Techtonic 00:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

SVG rendering problems

I recently uploaded a SVG I had created to the Commons. On my computer, and in Inkscape, the SVG looks fine; However, some of the parts of the SVG render transparent on the Commons. The image is saved in the plain SVG format, not the Inkscape SVG format. Is this a issue with Wikimedia Commons? Or is this a issue with my picture?

This is the image that has been rendered incorrectly.
Hm weird. It renders correctly in Firefox. So either Firefox and Inkscape are implementing the SVG standard wrong, or rsvg (MediaWiki renderer) is. I will see if anyone with SVG knowledge chimes in. If not, in a few days we can open a bug report. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 14:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Just to confuse things even more, this image rendered incorrectly for me (firefox) 30 minutes ago, and looks fine now. The only difference is thumb instad of <gallery>... Finn Rindahl 14:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, the thumb does NOT render correctly, just wrong in a different way than 30 minutes ago.... Finn Rindahl 14:22, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I found the problem. The Commons SVG renderer does not support the "blur" feature in Inkscape. When a object is blurred the Commons SVG renderer just makes the object completely transparent. I have fixed this problem in my image. Thanks to all the people that responded to my question.

Jtornado 19:40, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok. probably this bug: . rsvg doesn't support 'blur' correctly. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

general licensing question

I am wanting to self-publish a book on alternative energy through BookSurge at Amazon, and want to use images from Wikimedia Commons. I am completely baffled as to the copyright issues, especially for GNU and can't figure out if I can use these images in a book for profit. It sounds like as long as I give credit on the photo itslef on the page it occurs, such as "Source - photo by Tom Smith, from Wikimedia Commons" I am OK? I would hate to get sued and have the book crash and burn, since it is so timely a subject. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jim Conca (talk • contribs) at 17 août 2007 à 16:51 (UTC)

Check out Commons:Reuse. The credit should include the exact title of the image and the name of the actual license. Some licenses such as GFDL require you to include a copy of the fulltext of the license. Are you intending to release your book under a free license? If not, the simplest thing to do may be look for images that are CC-BY (Attribution) or public domain. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


I just signed up and put in a question but have no idea how to use this - how do I see if anyone answered me? How do I see that my question was even entered? Does saving the page automatically post it? Sorry for being fairly illiterate on this process, but I hope to use the Commons a lot.The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jim Conca (talk • contribs) at 17 août 2007 à 16:56 (UTC)


What's wrong with ? --Historiograf 01:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Nothing that I can see. But when the message was posted to your talk page, it didn't have a license tag on it, according to the history. Now that it does, it's fine. --Sopoforic 03:50, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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Censored images

This image is a user-altered (face blanked out) image of this image. Is this allowed? COM:PS says "The Commons may contain content that some readers consider objectionable or offensive. Like Wikipedia, the Commons is not censored.". The user altered image is clearly thus a violation of COM:PS, is it not? Secondly, only images which are useful for Wikipedia are allowed here. On Wikipedia, we dont allow this kind of censorship and this image cannot be used there, so it can be deleted, correct? --Matt57 00:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect. The criteria for inclusion at Commons is that it is free; not that it is used in any project. Secondly, that's not what we refer to by "censoring". What we mean by censoring is, for example, the altering of images of genitals or nudity in order to make them "less pornographic". --Boricuaeddie 00:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
A note: Commons:Project scope indicates that, "This also means that files uploaded to the Commons have to be useful for some Wikimedia project. Media files that are not useful for any Wikimedia project are beyond the scope of Wikimedia Commons" (I assume, however, that utility is to be construed broadly). The copyright status of an image is therefore not the sole criterion for inclusion. --Iamunknown 03:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Thats correct. If all that matters is that the image is free, then I could start uploading pictures of my cats and dogs. Censoring an image because it may be offensive to some people applies to all images, not just nudity. --Matt57 13:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Freeness is a necessary but not sufficient criterion for inclusion :)
Image:Mohammed_kaaba_1315_bew.jpg now has a deletion request which I guess is the right place to discuss it. Although I do recall we have censored images to protect private individuals' privacy in the past. But we so far don't censor images for nudity or relgious reasons. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, that's ridiculous. I thought this was supposed to be a media repository for everyone, not just for Wikimedia Projects. Oh, well guess I was wrong. Sorry. --Boricuaeddie 00:05, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

How old?

How old does your account have to be before you can upload a new version of a picture? --Ghostexorcist 08:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

4 days. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Movie screenshot upload

Hi, I want to post a screenshot of movie Malevil to illustrate the point explained there: Is that possible? Under what license ? Caveats ? TIA --Mll 11:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

No, please don't. A 1981 French movie is still under copyright; you could only use such a screenshot under a "fair use" claim, and we don't allow "fair use" images. Lupo 11:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
OK, thank you for your answer. Mll 07:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Mary Ann Bevan image - "noncommercial" but from 1924

I hate trying to figure out copyright law, so I'm hoping you experts will be able to help. Please take a look at this site and the image thereon. It states that it's from 1924 (making me think that we may be able to use it) but it states "noncommercial" with the American Philosophical Society as the source. Can they assert noncommercial on such an old image? Cheers, Violetriga 09:06, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... Such sites claim copyright on PD works. If it were published one year before, we would have been certain of its PD-ness. However if it was published without copyright notice or its copyright was not renewed, it may still be PD. -- Bryan (talk to me) 10:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Two years before to be sure, please. It's before 1923. Lupo 10:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

What is the filename for Flickr images?

I am attempting to upload this photograph from Flickr. I have followed the Flickr link at Commons:Upload. What do I enter as the source filename? The Upload page says "Source like a web link or give a statement like 'own work'." However, I can't seem to find a URL that is acceptable to the upload mechanism. Seektruthfromfacts 13:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to download the image first to your computer and manually upload it following the instrucions on that page. However, we run an experimental service, which skips the download step. See for that User:Flickr upload bot. -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

ahmadinejad's photo

I'm in the process of finding a photo of Iran's President when i came across this pic ([5]), i want to know whether it is a Puplic Domain pic or maybe it isn't before uploading it. Oren neu dag 21:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any reason to think that it is? pfctdayelise (说什么?) 12:37, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Scanning black and white images from glossy pages of a book

When I scan black and white WWII pictures from books with glossy pages, the pictures often appear with a slight pinkish hue or don't come out very clearly. I'm sure I need to adjust the parameters on my scanner, but was wondering if anyone had any information on what I should set them as? CLA 21:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't have much scanning experience, but don't you have a setting to scan to a greyscale image? That should at least eliminate any colored tint. Lupo 21:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
And also note that WWII images are not automatically public domain. -- Bryan (talk to me) 13:20, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Permission for Blogger

May I be allowed to get a link of WIKIMEDIA to be published in my Blogger page as below: <> It is a non-commercial web page created by me. Please inform to: e-mail removed by Lupo

You can always link to our pages. Just do it. Lupo 11:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Cropped image

I have cropped a PD image already uploaded, what license do I upload it on since it is not entirely my own work. Original Image Samuell 16:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

In this case, PD, because you didn't change the image in a creative way. Samulili 18:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Images put up without permission

I recently discovered that a few images from my site have been put up on Wikimedia Commons without my permission, crediting someone else, and under an incorrect license.

An example is Image:Apple_CD150.jpg which was copied from (ignore for now that they uploaded it with the wrong name)

These images are not, and have never been, released under a license. However, I have been considering putting my entire site under a CC-BY-SA license which would allow them to remain here.

Should I request that the person who uploaded the images correct the information or should I do that myself?

--StephenEdmonds 13:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I guess the original uploader didn't know that this was your image, as the image is also shown at the alleged source, where it is mentioned as "anonymous donation"[6]. In any case "Marco Mioli" is wrong.
In this case, I would say upload the image again, under the correct name, and license it as CC-BY-SA. Then slap a {{duplicate}} tag on Image:Apple_CD150.jpg. I'll take care of replacing the three references to that image then.
In view of this incident, the "authorization" at [7] for {{Museo Apple}} seems questionable. Apparently they released some images that didn't belong to them. Lupo 13:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stephen, in addition to what Lupo said, it's great that you're considering putting all your site under CC-BY-SA. We would welcome your photos here! If you need any help uploading them here or figuring out how things are done here, please let us know. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 14:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I've uploaded the image again as Image:AppleCD_300e_Plus.jpg. What should I do with the other four images (Image:Apple_Keyboard_II.jpg, Image:Apple_desktop_mouse.jpg, Image:Apple_desktop_mouse_II.jpg, Image:Apple_mouse_desktop_bus_ii_black.jpg) as they are named correctly? StephenEdmonds 12:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
If you can show they are yours, just edit the description pages appropriately, and perhaps leave a note on the discussion page for each explaining that although found on that other site, that they instead come from your site. It might be easiest if you get the text from the Image:AppleCD 300e Plus.jpg (just go into 'edit' on that page and copy the text) and copy it to each of those other image description pages and just edit the description and category for each. --Tony Wills 22:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
And of course notify of the origin and licensing of the images. --Tony Wills 22:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyright Help

i want to know what copyright i can use that will let me upload a picture i took (which is entirely my work only) that will protect my images from being "stolen", or for example someone using my image saying its theirs. the preceding unsigned comment was added by xguitargod23xx (talk • contribs)

  • You can use {{GDFL}} and {{CC-BY-SA-2.5}}, which requires Attribution (which means if they use your work they must credit you as the author) and Share Alike (which means if they alter, transform, or build upon your work, they must distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to yours). Or you can use {{CC-BY-2.5}} or {{Attribution}} which just requires Attribution. Just don't use the {{PD-self}} if you want to protect your images. --Digon3 talk 21:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Can not view some images

I am not sure what is going on with Image:Kos0043_small.jpg and Image:Kos0043 s.jpg. Neither image is viewable, I can not download them, they have a file size but no dimensions. Do I presume they have been corrupted? Maybe it was a faulty upload. The uploader has not been active for some time, maybe they should just be deleted? Does anyone know what is going on with them? --Tony Wills 22:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I am pretty sure they are corrupt, and both of them have a resolution of 0×0. You should nominate them for deletion. --Digon3 talk 22:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Seems strange that they could be sitting around for 2.5 years in that state, but I assume from the file names, descriptions, and file sizes that they were multiple attempts to upload the same image. I'll nom. them for deletion. --Tony Wills 22:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

PNG Optimization

Hello. I've been uploading a few .png files that are of quit a hgh resoltuion, and saw in the FAQ that they should be under 6 MB. I was wondering what would be good free software to use to compress the .pngs so they fit within the guidelines. Wizardman 21:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

There is stuff like OptiPNG, but that is generally only a few percents. The problem with the whole PNG stuff is that the software is unable to generate thumbnails for hires PNGs :( -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
If there is a good reason for their high resolution (eg highly detailed) it would seem silly not to upload them just because the software here doesn't generate thumbnails, but also upload a smaller version or a version in another format with an "other_versions" field so people can find the hi-res version. --Tony Wills 23:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I need to know which copyright is the correct for my images. I speak spanish.

Im an employee at abc revista, a magazine published in Argentina, ive been asked by my boss to upload some images of the cover of the magazine to contribute with the article. Ive already done that but the images were deleted because i didnt complete the copyright section. Please tell me what type of copyright i should choose while uploding the image. You can verify that i work in abc revista and that ive been told to do so by sending an email to Teresa Molinas Grondona (editor). or by phone at 54-0387-4315700. Spanish = better

Hola User:Jbm077. Entiendo que trabajas en "ABC revista" y deseas subir imágenes de algunas portadas. Las dificultades que estás teniendo se deben a que todas las imágenes que se suban a Commons tienen que permitir la realización de obras derivadas y el uso comercial. Si en su origen (la revista que fotografías) no se permite uno de estos dos aspectos, la imagen fotografiada no se puede subir o, si se sube, será borrada (puedes leer al respecto Commons:Obra derivada).
No hay ninguna licencia en Commons que permita la presencia de imágenes que no permitan la realización de obras derivadas y/o el uso comercial.
A pesar de todo, podría (no depende de mí) haber una alternativa para que pudieses subir algunas imágenes. Se explica en Commons:OTRS. Consiste en que el director de la revista ceda las imágenes aceptando las condiciones expresadas en Commons:Modelos de mensajes. Si deseas comentar esta alternativa házmelo saber (para ponerte en contacto conmigo, haz click en las palabras contacta comigo de mi firma, edita la página y escribe al final de la misma).--Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 11:12, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Clipping an image?

I'm interested in uploading this image. Does the right to create derivative works allow me to trim the ugly copyright notice off, obviously full attribution will still be given to the original author. Thanks. One Night In Hackney 21:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe you are allowed to do so. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Permission for a Photo by a no Wikimedia user.


I want to load a photo taken by a Russian Free Diver and Photographer, that said me that I can use the image in Wikipedia in an email that I copy hear. What license I can use for this?.

" I agree with publishing of my photo (Natalia 8min) at Wikipedia. My name must be mentioned. You can use e.g. file which I attached at the DeeperBlue forum If you need higher resolution or other proportions, let me know. "

It isn't my work, but I know who is the author and he permits use it. --Tecsie 21:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a permission for Wikipedia only is not enough. This permission does not even allow you to upload it to Commons. Images on Commons must be under a free license, that is they must be freely useable by anybody for any purpose, including commercial use and derivative work. Commonly used licenses are the Creative Commons Attribution, which grants the previous named freedoms, but ensures that the author is attributed, and the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike, which ensures the author is attributed and derivative works stay free under the same license. You need explicit permission from the author for that license (the author must say I agree with licensing this image under the XX license). Please use the email template from Commons:Email templates. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Logo-related question.


I recently designed (using Microsoft Paint) a logo for the Torchwood Wikiproject on the English Wikipedia. This logo is based on the logo of the fictional Torchwood Institute, and the television programme Torchwood, in which the Institute features, but is slightly different.

Am I allowed to upload this picture to commons as a free image and use it in non-Article namespaces on Wikipedia? --OZOO 12:49, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it'll be derivative work and could not be uploaded on Commons. See Commons:Licensing#Derivative works for details. --EugeneZelenko 15:27, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Is your question about adding new photos or using existing photos? If it's about using existing photos, please give us the names of the photos so we can give you a better response. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

How do i ask for my image to be deleted, even though i didnt upload it?

An image of mine was recently uploaded to the commons, from wikipedia. I dont want it on the commons though, so can i get it deleted? ACBest 20:35, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

It depends. What image are you refering to, and how did you licence it on Wikipedia? If it was uploaded under PD, GFDL, or Creative Commons, it can be reused here as long as it is properly attributed to you. If it was not a compatable free licence, it probably would need to be deleted from Commons as an unfree image anyway. That's about all I can say without knowing more about your specific case. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 21:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Image:Lincoln Station from bridge.jpg, Image:LNERLincolnSign.JPG. Attribution. ACBest 22:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Was the attribution improprer, and if so, what can we do to correct it? Thanks, -- Infrogmation 22:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I mean the licence is attribution. I dont want the images on commons, id rather have them on wikipedia. ACBest 23:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but that's not a request we can fulfill I think. By granting the attribution license you've agreed that "Redistribution, derivative work, commercial use, and all other use is permitted". So, what Infrogmation says: "it can be reused here as long as it is properly attributed to you". NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 23:21, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Better quality versions of irelands flags of the same design

Hi could someone please exchange the Connacht, Ulster and the four province flag of ireland for these new better quality versions they are the same design as the old ones

the files currently exist in commons as

Four Provinces Flag of Ireland.svg

Image:Four Province Flag of Ireland.svg

Province of Connacht Flag.svg

Image:Province of Connacht Flag.svg

Province of Ulster Flag.svg

Image:Province of Ulster Flag.svg

Caomhan27 20:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Why do I see jpeg artifacts around the bird? That's not something supposed to happen with SVGs. You should not embed the a jpeg file, but trace it. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
not sure what your on about there Bryan, but are you able you replace the old files with these new ones, as i am too newCaomhan27 21:33, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
He means that Image:Four Province Flag of Ireland.svg is just an SVG wrapper around a PNG image. Maybe you stored it wrongly. The file's contents are
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 20000303 Stylable//EN"

<svg width="904.000000px" height="600.000000px" viewBox="0 0 904.000000 600.000000">

<image width="904.000000" height="600.000000" xlink:href="data:image/png;base64,
...BASE64 encoded PNG image here
" />

That's not the way to do this. If you do an SVG version, it should contain the vector graphics, not a PNG rendering thereof. Lupo 07:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

does that mean it wont scale correctly?Caomhan27 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Right, it won't scale. It's just an SVG wrapper around a PNG, and that's even worse than a plain PNG. Lupo 15:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

ok thanks will see what i can doCaomhan27 15:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I have fixed the pictures now(i think), so can someone replace the old ones now?Caomhan27 00:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
It's SVG now, ok. But Image:Four Province Flag of Ireland.svg still looks strange, as if there were some blown-up PNG in a layer below the top one. What's with they grey and blue areas on the eagle? What's with the black lines on the crowns, the hand, and elsewhere, that aren't black but grey with black dots? What's with the transparent rectangle at the top? The hand has its middle finger cut off. Has this been created by running some auto-tracer on a PNG or JPG original? Lupo 08:03, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

yes i did what bryan suggested and used bitmap trace, is there a different method?Caomhan27 14:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Automated tracers rarely do a good job. With that SVG, we're no better off than with a PNG. I think Bryan meant tracing manually. AFAIK, that's how most of our SVGs, especially of flags, are done. Lupo 15:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Righto i have remade the Ulster and Connacht Flags myself mostly from scratch using a SVG editor, how do they look now lupo?Caomhan27 00:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

We're slowly getting there :-) Really. I appreciate your efforts, and thank you very much. But some further hints:
  • I don't think flags should have transparent areas. If it's white, it should be white. Otherwise, the flag will be displayed wrongly on a colored background.
  • Image:Province of Connacht Flag.svg: that eagle needs way more work. This black Rorschach blot is hardly recognizeable as an eagle. The right side looks good, except for the transparency. (From a technical point of view. I don't know how these flags typically look like.)
  • Image:Province of Ulster Flag.svg looks good, just a minor detail: can you clean up the space between the little and index fingers? That little "hole" there is really distracting. (I'd try reducing the width of the black borders, not filling the white "hole" with black.) Also, there's a transparent frame at the top, left, and bottom borders.
Keep up the good work! Lupo 06:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

phew tough audience, but thanks for the cred lupo, ok take three back to the drawing board Caomhan27 00:12, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

thrid time lucky, how they looking now lupo?(just the connacht and ulster flags again)Caomhan27 07:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Pretty good now. Now let's return to your original request about replacing the older version with these new ones: there's nothing bad about having several versions. You could just include these new versions in the Wikipedia articles, and you should put your version into categories (for instance, add [[Category:Flags of Ireland]][[Category:Ulster]] to Image:Province of Ulster Flag.svg). If you really think the old versions should go, you could try asking for their deletion at COM:DEL. (To do so, place {{delete|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} on the image page and then follow the instructions in the template.) Lupo 08:03, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help lupo Caomhan27 18:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Derivative work?

Hello, if I take a picture of a neon sign with the logo of McDonalds, permanently installed in public space, does it count a derivative work? Can I upload it to Commons? Thanks, --Antissimo 22:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Freedom of panorama is fairly restrictive in US law, so if you're prominently featuring a copyrighted work that's not an actual building then yes, it's derivative. But in this case I'm not sure McDonald's trademarked logo is copyrighted. I believe it's too simple to be eligible. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Two more questions then: 1. Does it change anything, if the picture wasn't taken in the US? Does it depend only on local laws? 2. Is it true that the McDonalds logo is too simple to be copyrighted, and this way I coan upload the picture to Commons? Thanks, --Antissimo 20:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I screwed up

I meant for this to replace this. --Philip Laurence 23:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

So tag this {{Bad name|Image:5.56mm-military-rounds.jpg}} and then re-upload the correct file in the correct place. TCC (talk) (contribs) 11:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


Could a admin please delete my talk page User talk:The Random Editor. Thanks. --The Random Editor 23:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

We don't generally delete talk pages for no reason. They are a way for others to see how you have interacted with the community. If you have some privacy or some other major concerns, you can send me an email and we can discuss it. cheers --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


Hi, User:Petrol.91 uploaded a "contact image", Image:Petrol-contact.svg, with the diverse ways of contacting him. My concerns are

  1. it includes images from software like Skype and GMail I am not sure that user, even if he wanted to, would be able this as pd-self as he doesn't own the logos for Skype etc. (I think it is a "derivative work" but couldn't find anything specifically on using logos - sorry if I missed it).
  2. no valid license (I have left him a msg on this), and he has now added that the image is not for distribution which would make it unsuitable for commons even if it was licensed properly.

Can someone clarify the situation so that the image can be put up for deletion or not (maybe I'm just seeing things)? Thanks. Deadstar 08:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I put a comment on his talk page. You are quite right, this image is not really suitable for Commons. If he doesn't reply to me in a couple of days I will just delete it. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Deadstar 14:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

What must I do?

I have uploaded a few pictures of my own town, made by myself, to illustrate the article about it on NL-Wikipedia. I have chosen "Public domain", but it seems to be a problem with the picture: Image:Yzendyke2.JPG I really do not know what I must do. Would you like to fix it for me, please? Greetings. --LidiaFourdraine 14:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you can just add {{PD-self}} as you did on the other pictures, and delete the template that was added (as you are fixing the problem). Hope that helps. Deadstar 15:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I sent the photo again and replaced the old one. Is it all right? I could not see the option to add PD-self. So I was not able to do it. Would anybody like to check it? Thanks a lot. --LidiaFourdraine 17:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I answered user on talkpage. Deadstar 07:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyleft question

If I release an image onto the Wikimedia Commons under a Copyleft license, the copyright holder can still use the image without adhering to the copyleft. Is this correct? - Hahnchen 18:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. If you own the copyright, you can use it as you see fit. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 22:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

license attribution

Under the terms of the Creative Commons directive and GNU Free Documentation License, I understand I can reproduce an image from Wikimedia Commons in a printed publication for free, providing I attribute the licensor. For this image — — who is the licensor, i.e license owner? Is it Wikimedia Commons, the Author - 'Estaviev', or another? pls help

For this image, the author is Mikhail Evstafiev. If you want to use it in print, I suggest you use it under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 license, copy the link to the Wikimedia Commons page (here) and credit the author. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

In copyright or not?

I have a postcard by the Hugh C. Leighton Co., manufacturers, Portland, ME which I want to use in an article. Unfortunately, it has no date. What do I do? Denimadept 02:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Is there an obvious aproximate date-- eg, about 10 years old, before World War II; or what, or no way to tell? -- Infrogmation 03:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
There's no definite way to tell. On the other hand, there's no postal code of any sort, the bridge on the card was removed in 1970, and the card appears much older, though that's not conclusive. Denimadept 03:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh, here's an interesting clue. Being a postcard, it contains postage information. It says "ONE CENT For United States and Island Possessions, Cuba, Canada and Mexico. TWO CENTS For Foreign." So, when was that the price for a postcard? Hmmmm.... Denimadept 03:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Tips for determining when a U.S. postcard was published Looks like what they call "Early divided back". 1¢ postage: 1872-1917 (good!) or 1919-1952 (not so good). I'm trying to find out what happened to the publishing company, if it went out of business long ago, or what. And who might hold their (c). Denimadept 04:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Ugh: "If the card has a shiny surface and is printed in color using a halftone process (little dots of magenta, cyan, yellow and black), it was probably made no earlier than 1939." At this point, until I can find out what happened to the company, I'm afraid I have to assume this image is still protected. :-( Denimadept 04:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, pre 1970 US publication-- is there any copyright notice or not? If not, I believe you can tag it with Template:PD-US-no notice. If there is a copyright notice, sorry, assume it is still valid unless you can find some evidence like that the company did not renew. -- Infrogmation 05:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
That much I can answer. The card is definitely pre-1970 as spoken by the quality of the image and the fact that the bridge involved was demolished that year. Also, there is no explicit copyright statement of any sort on the card. The image is similar to what the links mentioned above call "linen": low quality color half-tone, split back card with "POST CARD" on it. I just sent a note to the Portland, ME government to see if they know anything about the company, since that's the sum total of information I've got on it: the name and the city. Denimadept 19:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like your safe with the above tag then. -- Infrogmation 20:15, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! Denimadept 20:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Posted. Slade's Ferry Bridge postcard.jpg Denimadept 19:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I added a logo of my music group (Zeus-crest.png) and the image is now tagged for deletion because I didn't use propper licensing. But I don't know how to do it properly. Please help. The logo is a registered trademark, owned by myself and also designed by myself. And I want to use it for purposes of articles on Wikipedia about my music band. Please, help... User:mzupanc 21:30 CET, 30 August 2007

I think logo crated by you self will be fine, but please note that everybody could use it for any purposes, not only in Wikipedia article about your band. --EugeneZelenko 14:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

License and name...


I have a question. Exists a license for free use of photos that needs to mention the author that I will use in commons.

--Tecsie 19:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

If you are talking about your own work you could choose {{cc-by-3.0}} (or all version). If you are talking about other people work there are {{attribution}} but you must provide link to permission on Web or Commons:OTRS.

replacing files

I originally up loaded Image:Map of Lyre River.png, but realized you couldn't really see the river, so I re did it, and uploaded Image:Map of the Lyre River.png. Could the first one be deleted? I forget how to do that. Murderbike 03:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't see Image:Map of the Lyre River.png. But you could just overwrite Image:Map of Lyre River.png if you don't care about the :-). --EugeneZelenko 14:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Flag of USA.svg vs. Image:Flag of the United States.svg

Which one should get delited?
I woul delite Image:Flag of USA.svg, because I think "Flag of the United States" is a better filename. Question: Flag of USA.svg: 1330 × 700 Pixel Flag of the United States.svg: 1235 × 650 Pixel. -> Flag of USA.svg is bigger should it get uploaded with a new filename or is it useless, because it's an .svg-file?
thx fo helping --D-Kuru (01:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC))

Because it's SVG they're really the same size -- more or less. Don't pay attention to the pixels in choosing between them, anyway. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
All other flag images are named Flag of <State> while State is France or Germany or Lebanon and so on. AFAIK no State the United States exists - according to en:United States it is either USA, US or United States. So the proper file name is Flag of USA od Flag of United States nothing else. What so ever will be the content of the file, does no matter. -- 20:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)