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How to tag mages that appears to be corrupt

Is there any template to tag images that appears to be corrupt, like Image:IQ-70to130-ColorBars.png, or should they be nominated for deletion? Finn Rindahl 22:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

If full size image is fine, it could be kept. It's just MediWiki software problem with generating thumbnails for big images. However if image is just chart will be good idea to upload SVG version instead. --EugeneZelenko 14:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I nominated it for deltion anyway since it is not used and doesn't really seem to worjk full size either. Finn Rindahl 11:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Discussion page

I cannot open my discussion page since some days. Who can help me? Thanks.--Nikater 13:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • What error message does it give you or does it not load. --Digon3 talk 13:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • It did not load but it is now o.k. again, thank you.--Nikater 13:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


How to make sure that this doesn't get deleted? All info is there, just not in the right form... Guaka 00:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for including description, source, and licence information with your image, as appropriate. The thing you were lacking is the Commons tag which are used here to make it clear and easy to see the licence; see Commons:Copyright tags. I put the one for the licence you specified on that image for you, please add them when you upload images in the future. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 04:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The image description page still says "License is Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike NonCommercial 3.0" which is not suitable for commons because commercial use has to be allowed. You have to release it under another license that allows commercial use, otherwise it has to be deleted. --16:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Ooops, quite correct! I misread that originally. I've removed the tag. If you're willing to release the photo under a licence we can use at Commons, please modify the text and add the free licence of your choice; see Commons:Licensing for more info. -- Infrogmation 19:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Are low resolution images useful?

My wife and I have taken a number of photographs that we hope to sell, but commercial value depends on resolution - that of a 4+ Mpx version is (we hope) significant, while that of a 0.2Mpx one is trivial.

The immediate case in point is that we have pictures of the bridges at Wycoller, East Lancs, UK to which reference is made in the relevant Wikipedia article - and which I could use to illustrate that article; for instance: [Clam Bridge]

We'd be glad to release, say, 500x375px versions (adequate for use on the web - such as in the Wikipedia article) under the Creative Commons: Attribution + ShareAlike license, but want to retain rights over the original, ~8Mpx versions.

Comments please...

Roger.beaumont 02:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe other photographers have done so before, and I know of nothing wrong with releasing a useful moderate resolution version under a free licence and keeping more strict rights to the full original resolution version. I'd suggest including the information that rights are retained to the higher resolution version on the uploaded version, just to prevent any possible confusion. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 04:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'll crack on with it. -- Roger.beaumont 20:54, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Bot for removing categories?

Is there a bot that removes categories from images (or images from categories if you like), I would like to clean out Category:Categories_requiring_diffusion which patently should not contain any images. Where should I request this (I'd do it manually but 184 is very slow ;-) --Tony Wills 09:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like manual work for me (human oversight required). You could use MediaWiki:Cat-a-lot.js and MediaWiki:HotCat.js for this purpose. --EugeneZelenko 17:08, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that, Cat-a-lot did the trick, but still took a lot of time :-). Are there similar scripts to move images from one gallery to another? --Tony Wills 11:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
You could use User:CommonsDelinker/commands for moving all images from one category to another. But this will not work if you need to move only selected images. --EugeneZelenko 15:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Orange trademark.svg

Hi, I noticed this image in a tag and was wondering if a non=transparent version would be better. I hope this is the right place to ask. Doo-dle-doo 14:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I think the bit inside the circle should be white, not transparent. You're welcome to improve it or tag it for cleanup. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Steps to improving and re-uploading an image

I have got as far as downloading and editing an image, but I am not sure what to do to retain the correct license information when I upload it. If I leave the box blank, will the creator's existing license tag be retained? Or do I need to duplicate it somehow? Or replace it? I cannot find anything that answers this question, which should be in FAQs. Adrian M. H. 21:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The existing licensed will be kept if you use the link “Upload a new version of this file”. You can use the blank box to explain how exactly you improved the picture. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 21:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that's the link that I'm trying to use. I'll give it another go. Adrian M. H. 22:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

SVG Upload Issues

I'm a little confused as to why Image:Providence Metro Area.svg keeps loading up at 200x200 pixels when it's not at all. In Inkscape I have the document set to 800x520 px, and when you load the image directly it works fine, but MediaWiki's thumbnail raster thingy claims it's 200x200. What gives? This is the first time I've ever uploaded an SVG file (I worked in PNGs before). Petros63 03:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Hm that is strange, especially since Firefox renders it at a larger size. I made a bug report: bugzilla:11163. Maybe they have been tweaking the image rendering software recently and this was an unfortunate side effect. I've really never seen this before... --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Can someone fix/tell me whats wrong with this image Four_Provinces_Flag.svg‎ the new current version appears when you select it from the list but does not show up as the regular picture?Caomhan27 18:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Not my photo but author given

There are photos on in the Hollywood Movies section attach to an article by Rebecca Murray about Grand Slam Sci-Fi Summit 2007. The author of the photos Richard Chavez's name is given. Can I use this photo to update an actors profile? The current photo of the actor is from 2003. the preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs)

Only if it is under a free licence. See Commons:Licensing. The front page of says "©2007 About, Inc., A part of The New York Times Company. All rights reserved", so I would assume it is NOT under a free licence unless a specific page or image says that it is. -- Infrogmation 05:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

How to ensure attribution/photo credit

Attribution and ShareAlike. I shot and uploaded a photo: with ShareAlike license. I want to make sure it's clear that my credit needs to run with image, how it should be run. In the author field can I put my photo credit instead of user name?

I guess what I'm wondering is, what are the standards for the "author" and "source" fields for wiki images? Can I put whatever I want there? Such as: Photo credit must run with image: John Smith?

I've been reading help pages here but haven't found this information. If there is a good source that details this issue--proper credits and attribution for CC photo licenses, I would appreciate hearing about it.



  • Try reading this if you havent already. For the "source" field put own work and "author" field you can put your real name and your username. --Digon3 talk 19:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks folks, that helps. I updated the source and author fields; if anyone has any comments or suggestions please let me know. Kjetil, how did you create that template? I hit the edit tab but couldn't find the code for your template. --Jimtron 20:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
See {{Chuck}}... ...but just copy, don't edit(!) Kjetils template ;o) Finn Rindahl 20:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I see--thanks for the help. --Jimtron 20:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


i'm trying to find a Ma-V-Elle album "spoken to" or "angel" please? I can't seem to find it on this page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 22:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you got lost from Wikipedia? (O - RLY?) 22:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
try here Face-wink.svg Finn Rindahl 23:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:451px-Helmcken Falls 2006 Ben W Bell.jpg

I found this image on Wikipedia here where it is licenced GFDL which I believe is okay on Commons but I guess when I uploaded it to Commons I must not have described the existing license properly. I thought I had but I guess not. The image has been flagged now for deletion. I have added a note referring to the source, the author and the existing license to notes with the image but I expect there is a better way to fix this up. What should I do? --KenWalker 06:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ken, I replaced the warning with a license template. It's all OK now. A couple of notes for future:
  • you should use the CommonsHelper tool to make sure all the important info is properly (and easily) transferred across. Otherwise images might need to be deleted if important info is missing.
  • See the "451px-" at the start of the image name? That generally means you only downloaded a thumbnail, not the original high-res image. When you're downloading an image for transfer, always right-click on the text link below the image to save it -- not on the image itself. Images unfortunately can't be renamed, so you could upload it again under the original name, or just not worry about the weird name. Either is OK. :)` --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Mpeg-1 to Ogg

I have some movies I'd like to upload but they're all in MPEG-1. The tools outlined on Help:Converting video don't help - ff doesn't run, and VLC gives errors. Any help? Mostly I'd like to know exactly how to run ff. I am on a Mac. ALTON .ıl 08:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi there. I am currently updateing the Stirling Albion pages over on Wikipedia and I want to put pictures on here to use on the Stirling Albion Pages. I uploaded a picture last week but it since has been removed for copyright violation. The image was not violating copyright. As I had permission from the owner of the picture to use on wikipedia and related projects, also the images were released to be used by anyone. There was only one stipulation that the photographer/owner name was included with the photograph. Please can some on help me with how to upload a picture and not have it deleted. All images I have come from unofficial websites and all are happy to post some of there pictures on wiki projects, without any copyright restrictions. -3ease reply on my talk page thanks Gorilla 10:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm taking care of it. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Image not shown in gallery

I recently uploaded this image Image:JolieTattoo.jpg which works fine on its description page, but both the gallery boxes on Angelina Jolie and Category:Angelina_Jolie appear blank, despite it being implemented with the exact same code as all the other images on Angelina Jolie. Not sure what went wrong there, maybe someone experienced can take a look at it. EnemyOfTheState 11:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Really strange, this image shows in any size but 120px and 180px... Finn Rindahl 11:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Thumbnails regenerated, should display now also in those sizes. Lupo 12:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyright issue

I have a screenshot of the Wikipedia homepage to show Internet Explorer 7 as a web browser on en:web browser. It shows the bars, tabs, etc. at the top (above the page content). Is this free use or fair use? Thanks, Auroranorth 14:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hint: for en.wikipedia, use [[w:name of article]], for others use [[:xx:name of article]] (I saw you were having problems ;)). Answering your question: I'm afraid it's derivative work of a copyrighted software, so it's fair use. You'll have to upload locally. Regards, PatríciaR msg 14:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the hint. I understand now! Auroranorth 14:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Harman Blennerhassett

I would like to upload an image of Harman Blennerhassett but I am a little curious about the legality. Could someone please look at the link details at [1] and advise me. I believe it is public domain. Thanks. Daytrivia 15:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Creator is Alexander Hay Ritchie (1822 - 1895).[2] When was this published? You would need to show evidence that this was published in the U.S. before 1978 or after 2002. If it was first published 1978 - 2002, it would be copyrighted until the end of 2047. (Though I don't know who would hold that copyright.) Lupo 16:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Lupo I'll try to find out. Daytrivia 17:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Flaw in SVG

Someone pointed out to me that there is a flaw in Image:APLdel.svg and Image:Colours.SVG. If an image is displayed on an article and you click on it, the browser freezes and the SVG source is displayed. However, if I try it, I just see the image in its original size.

Can anyone explain this? HandigeHarry 17:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hangt van de browser af. w:Microsoft Internet Explorer laat de broncode zien, terwijl functionele browsers zoals w:Mozilla Firefox de afbeelding laten zien. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Not so. I have MS IE and I see the picture (as it should). The picture is converted to PNG before it is transmitted. HandigeHarry 20:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Why didn't you ask me (being the "someone" you mentioned) that question ? Anyway, you still don't get the point: when you click the image on the description page, Firefox freezes for a minute or so, and then shows only the source code, and not the image. That is because no style element is defined (which I already told you on your Dutch talk page, but you choose to ignore that (like you choose to ignore most remarks there)).
And: why did you request for deletion of my corrected version of that image, even before asking your question here ? That is not the way to work together... :-( - Erik Baas 20:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a reason why I did not ask you. These are the facts, as they are known to me:

  1. HH designs an SVG file and it looks good.
  2. HH uploads the file to Wikipedia Commons. Wikipedia reports no syntax error and converts the file to PNG.
  3. HH includes the file on a page. Everything is fine. When HH clicks the picture, the original size is shown.
  4. EB clicks the picture and his browser freezes.

When I'd ask you for help, I know what the answer would be:

  1. There is something wrong with HH's computer.
  2. There is something wrong with Wikipedia Commons.
  3. There is nothing wrong with EB's computer.

And I like to know someone else's opinion about it. HandigeHarry 06:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The behaviour Erik describes also occurs on my machine. The SVG files are malformed. Lupo 14:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
@HH: The error is: "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it.", which is what I told you a couple of days ago on your Dutch talk page. BTW: The problem is not just in this file, some of your other uploads also show this type of errors, as MdE (amongst others) pointed out here.
P.S.: This story is actually about Image:Colours.svg, not Image:Colours.SVG (which is a copy of the first, showing the same errors, and only being uploaded after the a deletion request was filed for the first one). - Erik Baas 00:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I found two 'style's in your version of the file, but in such a place that it seems unlikely that they matter to the validity of the entire file.
Unfortunately my computer happens to be bust - it does not freeze or crash when I attempt to show an SVG file. Instead it simply shows the file. This makes it hard for me to test a file.
I'll consider to have my computer repaired. Every computer crashes frequently - so should mine. HandigeHarry 07:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I wish to delete a photo

I wish to delete a photo. I originally posted it as "Impatiens pallida.jpg" on Wikipedia. Another user, who feels it's actually a different species renamed it "Impatiens capensis yellow form.jpg" [3] and uploaded it here to Commons. While I disagree with his assessment (as do a botanist I was hiking with when I took the photo, and another online botanist friend of mine), I do not wish to belabor the taxon of this specimen and would prefer it simply be deleted from Commons. How can I go about doing this? ++Arx Fortis 06:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I think will be good idea to upload you image under original name on Commons. Then you need to go on Image:Impatiens_capensis_yellow_form.jpg and click on Nominate for deletion link. However, I think will be good idea to involve Commons:WikiProject Plants participants in arbitration. --EugeneZelenko 14:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Edits to an existing file

How do I tag and link a file that is an edit to an existing file? I know there's a template for that but I couldn't find it. Tanks, ST 14:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you please describe more clearly what you want to do? Do you want to replace file? Or just change file description? --EugeneZelenko 14:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I would like to upload a new file, which is an edit to an existing one. I don't want to run over the old file, but I would like to note that it is an edited version of it, and off course link to the origin. ST 14:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I once saw a template that does it and keeps a small version of the original file in the file info. ST 14:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
In this case you need to upload file under new name and could use {{RetouchedPicture}}. Please don't forget to properly attribute original image author(s). --EugeneZelenko 16:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How to use wiki commons files in a wikia project?

I want to use wiki commons files in a wikia project. Is this possible? What's the syntax to display a wiki commons picture? --Vodeg 10:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not possible, I'm sorry. I'm sure if InstantCommons is ever finished, Wikia will enable it, and there will be big announcements. :) In the meantime, you will have to separately download our images from here and re-upload them over there. Be sure to link to the original page at Commons, and copy the author/license information. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 14:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Is this ineligible?

Alberta Highway 41.svg

This is the sign used on highways in the Canadian province of Alberta. The font used for "Alberta" was created in 1972 and "is restricted to provincial government departments and agencies". But fonts are somewhat special; can that SVG remain here or do I need to find a similar publicly available font? --NE2 10:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Standard letters

There are several images I would be more comfortable in releasing if I could accompany them with a Model Release Form. Has any one devised a standard wording for a Model Release Form that would be suitable for commons?
On a similar line of thought- there are several requests for images of prominent public figures. I am in a position to email them and ask for image they would release under CC 2.0 attrib, but would need to correctly attrib to the photographer. Has any anyone devised the standard wording for such an email?
And yet again, if I am persuading organisations to CC the photographs they put on their website- what would the preferred wording to ask them to use?

Any thoughts? ClemRutter 14:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC) UK based but also photographing in France and EC.

We really don't know what we should require from model releases. That's why we don't have a form. But if you are ready to make a draft, I suppose people will be willing to comment on that. Samulili 05:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
If we get one done, we should submit it to which is a clearing-house for these kinds of legal documents in copyleft-friendly arenas. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 12:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Following the thread, it seems that some research is needed. So google at hand I had a go. And I have come up with some findings and links, which I now share for comment.
  • 1. I am not a barrister (attorney) so I am not legally qualified.
  • 2. Model release forms do not protect the photographer- but the publisher- in this case Wikipedia and Commons- it behoves the publisher to write the form and the photographer to ensure it is signed. The photographer can upload anything- it is only an issue when the publisher displays them.
  • 3. Googling 'uk model release form' paradoxically gives better descriptions of US law than googling 'model release form'.
  • 4. The following links, gives 4 useful starting point. They are produced by an agency soliciting for new images- which seems similar to 'Commons'.
  • 5. For a photographer, asking for a model release, means that they can be refused and are in a weaker position than if they had never asked- though even if refused, the US public spaces defence(defense?) could still be used. In UK it would be case law.
  • 6. Many amateur photographers have asked this question before- but the reply has been that ::a) he law is fuzzy and
b) it must be on the web- try googling (a bit recursive!)
c) its hype they are not needed
d) but one did emerge.
  • Quote:
  • For valuable consideration received, I hereby grant to the above referenced photographer, and his legal representatives and assigns, the irrevocable and unrestricted right to use and publish photographs of me, or in which I may be included, for editorial trade, advertising and any other purpose and in any manner and medium; and to alter the same without restriction. I hereby release photographer and his legal representatives and assigns from all claims and liability relating to said photographs.
This appears useful- but as an amateur I can see that this can be challenged by the model in that it is not witnessed and the language is too vague so (s)he signed a document they didn't and couldn't understand.
though I believe that their intrepretation of the law is wrong- it is certainly representative- and maybe this was why I asked the question.

Delete account?

I want to delete my account from Wikimedia Commons database.

How can i do that?

Thank You


You can't. All we can do is let it rot (ignore it indefinitely). —O () 21:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
We can rename you to something unrecognizable. The only think that will remain is the log entry in the rename log. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Image replaced, but not the 800-pixel preview

I have replaced the chart


by a new version, but this new version is shown only in the thumb preview and in the 1062 pixel wide full size version, but not in the 800-pixel version. How comes? What has to be done to mend that problem? --L.Willms 17:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

ok now? Finn Rindahl 17:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
No. It still shows me the transparent background in the 800-pixel preview, other than the yellow background in the thumb preview (shown right) and the full image. What have I to do to change that? --L.Willms 18:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Looks like it's either a problem with the PNG file or with the thumbnailer we use. My previews are 640px, and I do get the yellow background, but it shows me the checkerboard pattern indicating transparency in the text box in the upper right corner (instead of white). Strange. Lupo 18:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
When you see the checkerbox pattern indicating transparency, you have the first version. There is also a difference in the text in the upper right corner: the new version says "line length", the old version "track length". The latter is wrong. The thumb shown here is correct. The first version hat only the graphics area with a colored background, the new version has a yellow background also on the text column to the left, showing all the country names.--L.Willms 18:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
The problem is repaired now. Who did it, and by which magic? I would like to know so that I can help myself the next time.--L.Willms 18:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I got that wrong -- I was thinking of the transparency in the overall background. The transparency in the text box in the upper right corner should go; so I will have to upload a third version of the image...--L.Willms 18:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Really still not working?? 800px thumbview works for me now (TESTPAGE unlinked), didn't the last time I asked. Finn Rindahl 18:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't see the 18:24 comment ;) Finn Rindahl 18:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
So what happened? Who did what to solve the problem? How can I avoid it myself the next time? It does not help much if I have to come into this forum everytime I have to replace an image and wait for unexplicable miracles performed by the resident magicians (I will have to replace the image in question a second time).--L.Willms 18:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not totally sure if this was what solved the problem (Lupo or someone else might have done something terribly clever beyond my understanding while I was experimenting) but after experiencing a similar problem the other day I added MediaWiki:ThumbnailPurger.js to my monobook, and used those functions to purge the 800px thumbnail. It's possible to do this manually (or so I've been told), but you'll have to ask somebody else how ;) Finn Rindahl 19:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
No, I didn't do anything this time. :-) Except looking at the image description page. Maybe it was a caching problem. Our caches are updated asynchronously, so it may sometimes take some time until the new version is shown. Typically, purging the page cures that problem (append "?action=purge" in the URL bar in your browser and hit return, that forces the WikiMedia cache servers to reload it). If it's just that your browser's cache (yes, the browser caches stuff, too, locally on your harddisk) still has the old version, simply forcing a reload of the page may do the trick. But as here several people had a problem, I think it was the WikiMedia cache servers that weren't up-to-date yet. Lupo 07:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Query on Iranian photographs

Image:Shirdel-Antonioni1975.jpg and Image:Shirdel-Rosi.jpg were deleted as having no source. Uploader came back to me (having put the nsd tag on) saying:

Hi,These photos of Kamran Shirdel have been taken 30 years ago in Iran. Their photographer is unknown and photos belong to Kamran Shirdel. Is this information enough for their re-uploading and reviving? If no, what information should I add and if yes, shall I upload them again? thanks azizi 06:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Licensing has a clause about the thirty years, but wouldn't we then need OTRS permission from Kamran Shirdel to be able to keep them on Commons? Deadstar (msg) 07:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

copyright issue

assistance please. I have uploaded some images [4] at [5] for example. The copyright is o.k. -Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License- in that it says the image is free for others to use as long as acknowledgment is made but it also states that I took the photograph. I may have, others may have, the image belongs to the heritage service I work for. That organisation is happy for the images to be in the public domain under the above license. Where am I going wrong in getting myself as the copyright owner. I will need to sort this out as I hope to add other images to Commons. Thanks --Edmund Patrick 08:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC) I have moved this question to license pages which i think is the more relevant one. If you can assist please do, otherwise sorry for the confusion. --Edmund Patrick 08:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Why not use Commons?

Other than fair use (which is allowed on many wikis), what reason is there for not using Commons and uploading images to individual wiki projects? Mike.lifeguard | talk 18:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

None, if you ask me. Some, however, are worried that they are not able to watch their images (on their watchlist) easily. If I'm not mistaken, there are technical ways to circumvent that problem. Others are annoyed that we sometimes come up with new rules and delete images that have previously been regarded as free. I, on the other hand, think that on Commons we are constantly improving our knowledge of copyright issues and that this leads to more accurate guidelines. Samulili 19:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
People still need to register a separate account at Commons to upload here. Lack of language support. There's two semi-decent reasons. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 22:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Until I became aware that commons would email me changes on my watchlist, I was deadset against it. There's also some worries that commons will delete images that are free enough for local wikis based on some rule change or whatnot (i.e. PD-US images becoming inelidgible if they're not PD-Mexico or PD-Malawi or what have you). WilyD 16:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Query over which tag to use

I wish to upload a scanned electronic version of a photograph of a public figure (a Viennese musician) taken in 1943. The photographer is unknown. The subject of the photograph presented it to me as a gift in 1995 shortly before her death. It is the only copy, although I've allowed the photo to be used on another website. We wish to include it in a Wikipedia article on the subject.

Should I use the anon tag (more than 50 years old)?

I also wish to upload two ogg files, each of an entire audio track of my own musical performances for use on Wikipedia, as Chairman of the Board of the recording company that owns the copyright of the commercial CDs of these recordings. Is this possible with a simple statement by me on the info page of each file? What tag is appropriate?

In all three cases, I want to release the files into the public domain unconditionally.

Thanks. pwatchorn 12:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi and thank you for willing to contribute to Wikimedia Commons. As for your first question, it is unlikely that the image is really public domain, since it only becomes public domain 70 years after the death of the author.
For your second question, I advise you to upload the files to Wikimedia Commons, and then send this email template to from an email address that is associated with your recording company. (replace license by "Public Domain"). I'm sorry that we have to make it this complicated, but in the past we have had users claiming to be part of a recording company, but were in fact impersonating them.
Also note that by publishing something into the public domain, you allow anybody to use that file for any purpose; not just Wikipedia. Feel free to ask questions if something is unclear. -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much, Bryan. Great to receive prompt advice like this.
Issue 1, 1943 photograph. So does that mean that, although I thought the gift of the only copy of the photo represented a transfer of ownership of the photo by the subject to me, if the person who took the photo (probably her husband—I may be able to check this) died less than 50 years ago, there's no apppropriate tag for the Commons? And I suppose that a publicity photo, which I suspect it was, cannot be tagged as such in the Commons. Alternatively, is Wikipedia more likely to allow this item without going through the Commons?
Issue 2, ogg files. Thanks; I'll carry through your suggestion on this. pwatchorn 03:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Check usage

Hello, "Check usage" seems to be missing. Is this for everyone? Related to the toolserver hard disk problem? S Sepp 16:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Works for me. -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. It was a local problem. I cleared my browser cache and it works now. S Sepp 20:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

including photoes in articles

hello how can i include a photo in an article to appear for the readers not to be a link ? thanks

Just use [[Image:ImageName.jpg|<width>px]]. -- Bryan (talk to me) 09:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Little Help

Can someone fix/tell me whats wrong with this image Image:Four Provinces Flag.svg the new current version appears when you select it from the list but does not show up as the regular picture? Caomhan27 18:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you please explain further when and where you can't see this picture?.It looks fine to me? Finn Rindahl 22:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

What i mean is that the "current version" as shown on the history section [[6]] is different to the version that is being displayed which is an older version, i tried uploading it a few times but it did not change, click on the current version and it will show the yellow flag in the top left as people have been asking for, the version on display shows the three crowns on the top left Caomhan27 22:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Try purging your browser (pushing the refresh button). --Digon3 talk 22:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks but I tried that first to no avail?are you seeing different?Caomhan27 23:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it's fixed now, you have to regenerate the thumbnail (see similar discussion above) Finn Rindahl 23:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Finn, yes its the intended version now Caomhan27 23:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Technical question: Special:Upload and Template:Image information

First off, I apologise if this is the wrong place to ask: just point me in the right direction, then.

I have noticed that in some (if not all) upload forms, the template, image information, is pre-loaded in the summary windown [7]. I am an administrator at the Afrikaans Wikipedia and we would like to have a similar template load in our summary window. Unfortunately the users with the technical know-how (who also started the project) have long since left, so we're left to our own devices when it comes to these type of things.

Any information or advice will be appreciated. Anrie 20:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The relevant code is in MediaWiki:Upload.js. The code that calls MediaWiki:Upload.js can be found on MediaWiki:Common.js. Let us know if you need more help. Also note that we hope that users from the Afrikaanse Wikipedia upload free images to Wikimedia Commons instead of their local wiki :) -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, we would really like to see more people rom Afrikaans Wikipedia uploading here!! Please check out Commons:Help page maintenance to see which key pages may need translation, and Commons:Turning off local uploads for some tips on how you can encourage people there to use Commons. thankyou! pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you both for your help - for some reason I neglected to add this page to my watch list and didn't discover your answers till now. Encouraging people to upload to the Commons is most definitely on our agende, although I shudder at the extra work that'll cause the users here (most have none/shoddy copyright info). I want to attempt an "Upload wizard" similar to yours in the future, which will direct users here. Thanks for the link to Commons:Turning off local uploads - I've been looking for something like that for a while now. Thanks again for all the help. Anrie 11:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Ranaming/moving images

Is there a reason you can't? Or can you and I'm just missing something? Moondyne 05:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The technology doesn't make it possilble to rename images. You have to upload an image with a different name and then mark the older image with {{bad name|new image name}} (if the old image isn't used anywhere) or with {{duplicate|new image name}} (if the old image is used somewhere). Samulili 08:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Policy on model releases/people in images?

Does Commons have a policy on when model releases are required, or more generally on the privacy rights of people in images? I just spent quite a bit of time poking around, but this issue doesn't really seem to be addressed. Jpatokal 02:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

There are some guidelines at Commons:Photographs of identifiable people. --MichaelMaggs 05:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer. Has this policy been vetted by a lawyer? The reason I'm interested is that Wikitravel has, to date, been using a much stricter policy (basically "no people at all without a model release"), which appears to be overkill when compared to the policy here. Jpatokal 11:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
No, it hasn't been vetted by a lawyer. But if everything was vetted by lawyers then Wikipedia would never have got started in the first place. ;) If we find images we think are potentially privacy violating we delete them. Well, I would delete them. :) pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
We could ask Mike Godwin to take a look. He's much less reluctant to say what he thinks than Brad was. That's not exactly "vetting" necessarily but it might be useful information for us. ++Lar: t/c 12:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Good idea. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 14:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that would be good. The guidelines were I think written at a time when the WMF didn't actually have an in-house counsel. If he does reply, there are quite a few other issues (eg FOP) that we could put to him for a policy decision! --MichaelMaggs 14:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Can I refer you back to what I said above in standard letters I think the two are interlinked.ClemRutter 21:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Image not shown in category page

There is some weird in this image Image:Alfa romeo spider serie4 closed.jpg , its not shown in category page Category:Alfa Romeo Spider. Anybody can fix it?--Typ932 08:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Works for me. Probably you need to reload category page. --EugeneZelenko 14:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Just as an FYI, the thumbnail doesn't work for me either. I tried to purge but didn't make a difference. Deadstar (msg) 14:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
It works now--Typ932 19:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

LOD.SVG Doesn't display

I tried converting an image I uploaded as .jpg to .svg using InkScape. I used the trace function to create a path and added other features. However, when I upload the .svg file it does not display. If I open the link, it displays but with a big black slash. Everything is OK in Inkscape so I'm not sure where the error is occuring.

When I export from Inkscape as .png file and upload it is OK. See LOD.png for conversion and LOD.JPG for the original graphic.

Thanks for help.

I uploaded a new version of the file which I think will render correctly... but since the software doesn't seem to feel like rendering new thumbnails, we will have to wait a bit to see.
What I did:
  1. Checked the file's rendering in Firefox to see if it was a mistake with the MediaWiki(rsvg) rendering, or a mistake with the file. (It was the file, despite what it looks like in Inkscape.)
  2. Highlighted the area of the drawing in Inkscape, File > Document Properties..., click the button "Fit page to selection".
  3. Save file as plain SVG, not Inkscape SVG.
  4. Check file renders correctly directly in Firefox (you need a pretty recent version of FF for this to work, possibly 2.0)
cheers --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the file. It is still not rendering when I try to insert it on Wikipedia but is OK as an individual file in Firefox.

I did start a new file from scratch which does seem to be rendering properly. I will have to complete it. Must be something I did when I converted in using Inkscape (I am new to it). For the new version I made sure to convert the trace of the bitmap to a single path, not an outline. That seems to work. That and converting to regular .svg!

See drawing2.svg on Wikimedia commons. Its set to be deleted soon though since I didn't add copyright information. Just a test image. Mattj63 14:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

how can i contribute a biobraphical gist?

Hello. How can i post a biographical summary? It's as if everybody's concerned about photo images when I simply want to post two or three paragraphs. Thank you for taking the time to read this query.

Edwin Cordevilla

Commons is just for pictures, you probably want to put a biography on the encyclopedia. Click en:wikipedia or directly en:Main page and look there, please. Good luck Havang 11:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Uploaded and cancelled image on subsection of 'Chiavari' - Physics and Meteo seismic museum

I have upload image 'urto.jpg' for subsection Physics and Meteo seismic museum of the main page 'Chiavari'. This image (my own work) regarding a scientific apparatus, regularly uploaded and visible, nowadays is removed. I kindly ask about this problem. Thank you in advance. Salvatore Ganci (Author of this subsection)


Are you referring to Image:Urto.JPG? The names of images are case-sensitive - .jpg and .JPG is not the same. Finn Rindahl 13:51, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Still unclear how to use images from Commons

Hello, I work for a small journal (about amateur astornomy, but it does not much matter) and I would be very happy if somebody could help me understading how to use the images from Commons, as more and more useful material gradually appears here. Basicaly I am concerned with two points that I consider essential, yet I haven't found a good answer around (though probably only because I'm a poor finder).

1. how to use CC-SA licenced images? It is very well suited for internet reproduction, but there's no way I could put the whole magazine under such a license (as there is the material from dozens of authors) and it is also impossible to print out the lengthy licence (it would take ten times more space than the picture) - this also concernes the GFDL that I think also requires the inclusion of the licence. Does that mean that the CC-SA or GFDL'ed pictures are simply not intended for press use or is there a good way to proceed that I did not realize? 2. how to atribute images properly when no name is shown? every CC license requires attribution and it is the think one just should do anyway (even if not required). But how to attribute the image when only a nickname (wiki login) is shown along with the picture? it is often not possible to find out who is the person behind the nick.

Again, my unability to settle those issues is probably only due to may poor abilities, but anyway if I may suggest, it would be very nice if there is was a section clearly explaining how to use the material under the various licences in press/magazines etc. as all the explanations I have found were mainly focused to personal use, internet pages and so on. Thanks for any response, Jan Verfl (

Hi Jan,
Have you seen Commons:Reuse?
With CC-BY-sa you don't have to print the license, just mention it. It's unclear whether text+image is a derivative work or an aggregate work. Lots of issues like that have never been tested in court, so we can't provide definitive answers. If you want to stay on the safe side, you can use PD and CC-BY images without hassle. Do you know of the Mayflower search engine? You can search for only images that meet specific license conditions. You could also consider asking the author, if they are a Commons user, to grant you permission to use the image in your magazine. I guess many users would be happy to do so.
For Attribution, if the user doesn't provide their real name, attribute their username. Like "Created by user pfctdayelise at Wikimedia Commons". It's not your responsibility to hunt down their real name. :)
Hope this helps --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 00:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
The question of whether test+image is a derivative work is silly, since if it was true the whole Wikipedia would be a derivative work under a cc-license. / Fred J 02:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for the answer. I have seen the Commons:Reuse page, but it is exactly the sentence here "When re-using the work or distributing it, you must mention the license terms or a link to them. You must make your version available under CC-SA." that bothered me as I did not know how to apply it in the printed case. But if it is sufficient to mention the licence, I think it could be just done using its name and understood so that everyone can copy the picture from the magazine under the terms of the licence, right? Anyway asking the author is a good idea, I realized that there is a "talk page" for every author so probably even though many users here do not provide their emails or so, they could hear me asking there.
The answer about attribution was exttremely helpful and claryfiing. Also I thank you for the search engine, I will try it out and I think it can be of great use to me. -- Jan Verfl, 9:53, 15 Sep 2007
Fred, there are some people who think that.
Jan, in print, I would put the full name of the license and print the URL where the license conditions are written. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Replace image with new one

Please replace image "Tripoli-Cape Town highway map.PNG" with the one I altered "Tripoli-Cape Town highway map.png". Libya is supposed to be to the north of Chad. the preceding unsigned comment was added by Mulderpf (talk • contribs)

✓ Done. --EugeneZelenko 16:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Category:BMW 3-Series

Can you empty this category, which is a duplicate of Category:BMW 3 Series, please? -- 16:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Partially done. You could help too. In most cases images are already in subcategories of Category:BMW 3 Series (like (Category:BMW E36). So you just need to remove Category:BMW 3-Series from images descriptions. --EugeneZelenko 14:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with PowerPoint import


I'd like to provide this Extragalactic Distance Ladder.pdf that I created in Power Point. Thus far, the best I have found is to export it as an Adobe pdf file, but that does not get a thumbnail and can't be embedded in other articles.

Please suggest how to convert from powerpoint or pdf into SVG.


WilliamKF 19:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Try this: make an image from the version.pdf

  • 1) click the photocamera-icone at the menu-line.
  • 2) than make a frame around the part you want to have in picture.
  • 3) go to the menu "copy" and copy that part
  • 4) Open photo program "Picture it!" or similar photoprogram
  • 5) Open new file. A white field should appear.
  • 6) chose your format: "landscape" or "portrait" or by customizing ; click "done".
  • 7) than go to the menu "paste". The picture you have copied from the pdf should appear in the white field.
  • 8) Save it with a suitable name.png or (name.gif).
  • 9) Eventually cut the superflous white from the picture. And your picture is ready for uploading at commons.

Good luck Havang 20:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Right, that works for jpeg or gif, but I want a scalable picture that is vector based, i.e. SVG. Do you know how to get into that format from power point or pdf? Thanks. WilliamKF 20:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry, I don't know how to make SVG. I too should like to have that question answered: how to make from png or gif a svg version. (and what program I need to open svg-files - my computer refuses them to open svg files) Havang 20:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I've found a free service on the web to convert from pdf to svg: (Note that you can't go from png or gif to svg since there is no vector information to convert, it has been lost once you go to one of those formats.) WilliamKF 22:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Here is a free svg viewer:
You are better off using Inkscape. It's an open source SVG viewer and editor, very useful and widely used by Commons editors. It has a function which is something like "import a bitmap image" and then there are various ways to convert it to SVG. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 04:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
PDF is, or can be, vector w.r.t. illustrations, I believe, so if you can go from PDF to SVG via a converter, then work the image in Inkscape, that may be a better approach than taking a screen shot or capture and then converting the raster, which sometimes can introduce artifacts (Inkscape's converter is good, but not perfect). I'd try both and see which gives you a better quality image. But there certainly are ways to do it. ++Lar: t/c 10:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
This pdf came from Power Point and scales nicely to very large, so it should be vector graphics. I failed to get the pdf to svg conversion to succeed from, so if you can convert it, that would be great. WilliamKF 05:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Better you don't create this images in Powerpoint, you should use Inkscape because you can create SVG directly. A conversion from one format to the other is never the best solution and should be avoided if possible. By the way, inkscape is a very easy to use vector graphics program. --Niabot 08:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


This image has been moved today from Wikipedia to Wikimedia but the image does not show on wikipedia pages Bunker or User:Palmiped, why is this? Palmiped 21:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thumbnail problem (see various discussions above). Purged this one, should work now. Finn Rindahl 21:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Its fine now, thanks Palmiped 21:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
If users move images from Wikipedia to Wikimedia maybe they should purge at same time, nothing more annoying than missing images on wikipedia pages which could mean someone deleting link Palmiped 21:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
It's normally not a problem, just some server-problem occuring right now (if I have understood things correctly) Regards, Finn Rindahl 21:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)



would you please tell me how to delete images that I have uploaded? thanks! the preceding unsigned comment was added by Piazzolla (talk • contribs)

在这请问就可以,你也可以用中文在Commons:互助客栈。 --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

comparing reports

How to compare 2 or 3 reports thru a graphical representation using Bugzilla

This is the Help desk for asking questions about Wikimedia Commons, this website. You should perhaps try a general reference desk elsewhere. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Image Upload

I downloaded a couple of images to Wikipedia Commons that I would like to include in the article about Cinemascope in Spanish. How do I link the two? Am I doing this correctly? BTW, the images were taken by me and I fully released my rights to them.the preceding unsigned comment was added by Cinemascoper (talk • contribs)

The images are properly licensed and looks just fine. To include them in the Spanish article add
there. I'll add a template explaining how to link images at commons to your user talk. Regards, Finn Rindahl 16:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Double check

If someone could do me a favour and double check that the following uploads are okay, that'd be great: Image:Flag of Transylvania before 1918.svg, Image:Hudson Heights 187th Hudson River.jpg, Image:Hudson Heights Cabrini Boulevard.jpg. Copying files over from Wikipedia, and the FAQ states I need to include the 'revision history', which I assume only means that of the image and not the history of the page itself (ie changes to the description)? And is it okay that it's tagged with GFDL-self-with-disclaimers, even though it's not *my* image? I know it's got the 2nd GFDL one but there's no GFDL-others-with-disclaimers or similar, so I'm assuming that the two combined serves the same purpose. Thanks a bunch. :) AllynJ 01:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

how to post a game screenshot?

If theres an article about lets say a computer game - how can you add a picture of it without violating any copyrights? Kampy 12:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If the game is under a free license (free as in speech, not free as in beer, GPL for example) you may. Otherwise, you may not. --Fb78 12:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
My question was a "how" question. Lets say Counter-Strike - you have to somehow show what Counter-Strike is with a picture, but screenshots seem to be forbidden for some odd reason. Or what exactly is forbidden at the screenshot. Would it be allowed to post a screenshot of lets say your own map? I dont get it Kampy 12:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I know its possible somehow because everybody seems to be doing it with maybe this:

{{Non-free game screenshot}}
{{Non-free software screenshot}}

Im very confused right now, because this site doesnt support screenshots, but wikipedia does, but theyre taking their stuff from somewhere else. Im just not sure how to use it. Is it Wikimedia? Kampy 12:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons, is for free license materials (GDFL, Creative Commons, Public domain, etc). You can't just upload copyrighted materials in Wikimedia Commons. If you are authorized to post the copyrighted material, you may upload it to the related project in the related language. Example: You can upload it in Wikipedia in English, the article about it is in Wikipedia in English, with the specified license. Eagleal | Talk 12:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Kampy, perhaps you want to read en:Fair use. The Wikipedia Guideline en:Wikipedia:Non-free content is different from the Commons guideline - mainly because Commons is a database for image content, not "fair use". For showing what Counter Strike is, you have to use words then, since the images are protected.--Fb78 15:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Although I think that this rule is pretty stupid. Please go ahead and delete the screenshot. I can freakin draw it myself Kampy 15:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Drawing it yourself is not allowed either. It's not our rule, it's the law. Call your local congressman. --Fb78 15:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay now you gotta tell me why drawing it myself is not allowed? THAT really doesnt make sense. 04:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Help to find a suitable licence tag

Screenshot of from Istanbul says:

Bu siteye erişim mahkeme kararıyla engellenmiştir. T.C. Fatih 2.Asliye Hukuk Mahkemesi 2007/195 Nolu Kararı gereği bu siteye erişim engellenmiştir.

Access to this site has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2007/195 of T.C. Fatih 2.Civil Court of First Instance.

Please change the licence tag to an appropriate one. I am not sure about the license but I guess the court order should not be copyrighted.

--Nevit 21:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

adding licensing information to an existing uploaded photo

I have uploaded several self-made photographs, for which I selected (or thought I selected) an all-rights-released license. Instead, though, I received a "this image does not have sufficient information on its copyright status" warning. How and where do I correct the copyright status of an existing upload? Many thanks for help on this. Tim Ross 00:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

To add the same licence as to the other images you have uploaded, simply click the 'edit' tab, add
to the text below the information template and save. Voilà. Finn Rindahl 01:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Please check license

Could someone check if the license for Image:Penguin diagram.JPG is ok? Do I have to get permission from the author of the LaTeX source code? If so, is it ok to release to PD? Thanks, --Quilbert 18:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I have contacted CERN about this. --Quilbert 18:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
You cannot release your image into the Public Domain since it is derived from Image:Pygoscelis papua.jpg that is only released under GFDL. GFDL requires derivative works to be released under the same license, so you need to change the license to GFDL. --Matt314 23:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Liscensing question

I would like to upload a picture contained within my medical records. I understand that under US law, I possess ownership of the records themselves, but I was not sure if this translated into ownership of the copyright, ie, permission to release it into the public domain. Anyone know? And if so, does anyone know which license to place it under? Seeing as I didn't literally take the picture myself, although I'll maintain that I certainly helped create it. Someguy1221 21:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Problems with SVG Renderer

Currently some SVG-Graphics arn't displayed correctly or don't rendered at all (e.g. Image:Qsicon lesenswert.svg). So many articles in the german wikipedia are affected. The image displayed correctly before, but currently it isn't displayed at all. Any suggestions? --Niabot 16:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

The problem seams to be solved now. Caused me a little bit trouble after i changed many icons of the german wikipedia to svg (they believed that it was my fault). Oo --Niabot 08:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Flag of the Netherlands.svg
There are also problems at the french wikipedia, see the representation of models at fr:Projet Pays-Bas and fr:Utilisateur:Havang. The problem is even on commons: see left Havang 09:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
But hass the image been changed here on Commons or is that just another cache/thumbnail issue? -- AnyFile 13:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

A problem with photo orientation - Image:EN94 WKD inside.JPG

I don't know what to do - on my computer the photo looks OK, but when uploaded it always displays horizontally. How can I rotate it 90 degrees counterclockwise? :-) --Jan Stradowski 13:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Your camera saved the information about orientation in the metadata of the image, so the software on your local computer was clever enough to display it according to this information. However, the Mediawiki software that is used to run Commons/Wikipedia has not implemented such feature, so it does not turn the image. I downloaded the image, used the "lossless turn" function of IrfanView and re-uploaded the image. --Matt314 21:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
You can use the program exiftran to rotate the image and update the exif information in a correct way (if this program is available for your operating system) -- AnyFile 13:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

i do not understand the link

i do not understand the links between common and en.wikipedia : i have uploaded a pic ("Image:Bjork boot europa 2.jpg") on en.wikipedia but i tought it was on common... thanks in advance - and i want to speed-delete it... Kernitou 13:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

This here is Commons, not en.WP. If you upload something at en.WP and want it to be deleted than you have to ask there and not here. We can only deleted pictures which were uploaded here. By the way, please do not upload this picture at Commons. It's a picture of derivative work and can't have a free licence. Some more information about the link: when you upload something at en.WP or some other WP you can use the picture only at that one project, but if you upload it here, all wikimedia projects can use the picture (without uploading it at their project). -- Cecil 13:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
ok, thanks Kernitou 14:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

New version of picture won't show

greetings i'm trying to upload a new version of the image Image:Turingswitch.png. i tried several times and each time an elongated image of the old version appeared. this is such a simple operation (uploading a revised version of an image) that i wonder if maybe i'm just not thinking right. please what can i do? if someone -- an administrator or staff or user -- could help i'd be grateful. i put an updated image on my website at: . if someone could replace the old image with the new, please do. -- TIA, TT The preceding unsigned comment was added by Telecomtom (talk • contribs) at 16:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

This is probably a cache problem. I just purged the page, does it work now? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Merci to Marie-Lan Nguyen. (that's about all the French I know. but Paris is beautiful, you are fortunate to live there.) I think it's working now. There may be a minor problem remaining: The small image that I see on the wikipedia page for the Turing switch appears stretched in the horizontal direction. But at least the true image appears when I click the "Enlarge" button. Telecomtom

I suppose you're talking about en:Turing switch. I purged the page there as well. You may have to clear your browser cache. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay. It looks fine now. Thanks. Telecomtom

Please move improved image to original filename

Ephesus IchthysCrop.jpg
Ephesus IchthysCrop.jpg

I have been a wikipedian for a while, but have only just registered an account on Commons. As a result, I can not upload an edited file under its original filename because I am "too new". Please move Image:Ephesus IchthysCrop Improved.jpg to Image:Ephesus IchthysCrop.jpg, I have re-applied better perspective correction from the original photo and improved picture clarity. --Mufunyo 00:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

As it is a week later, I have now been able to upload the image at the correct location myself. The original image has been marked for speedy deletion. --Mufunyo 13:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Help editing a picture

I'd like to clean the background of Image:Wisteria_sinensis_anatomia_en.png, which appears on the article Fabaceae, but I don't have the technical skills. I suppose this is a fairly easy task, is there a place here or in the Commons to put a kind request? Aelwyn 15:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Media for cleanup -- Cecil 10:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


I have uploaded a picture samsoncj_snail_07.jpg for featured picture, i gave the name of the image for nomination. I want to know whether my picture is there in the nomination list, I dint get any feed back.

--Cj.samson 14:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

You just created the nomination here, but you didn't made the other steps necessary for the nomination, like adding it to the Candiate list. Nobody can see you nomination right now. -- Cecil 16:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I've fixed it for you. There should be a reaction now in the next time. -- Cecil 16:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Photographs of shop fronts etc

I've taken a number of photographs of shop fronts, to illustrate articles on high street stores. As they include company logos/branding, is there a copyright issue or can I upload them to Commons ? ThisIsAce 20:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, yes. Company logos are copyrighted, so they're not under a free license. If you want them to use in, for example, the English Wikipedia in articles, consider uploading them under a fair use license. Maxim(talk) 23:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
You may upload your images to Commons when a logo isn't the main subject of the photograph. Samulili 06:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. ThisIsAce 22:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

How to find images you want?

I have just about given up. When I try to make a categories that are useful to me (architectural categories) someone deletes them. Most links to the commons in wikipedia articles go to deleted categories. Who is the king of categories around here that gets to determine, for example, that to find Minarets you have to go to Towers first? The minaret I am looking for isn't there anyway, and since someone deleted my categories, I probably will never find it again. I have also lost a door forever because of relentless deletion of categories. --WhoNose 15:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

resize image

Nice caption

How to resize the image uploaded in the mytalk page?? --Cj.samson 16:03, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

The usual syntax for pictures is :
[[Image:samsoncj_snail_07.jpg|thumb|100px|Nice caption]]
with thumb creating a frame around the picture, 100px resizing it to a 100px width and caption being a description of your picture. See on the right the result. All arguments are optional. Nice picture, by the way. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Image capture (Screenshot)

I want to upload a image capture (a screenshot) of Netstumbler software application in order to illustrate an article about this applicaction in the spanish version of Wikipedia, but I don't know if I must.

--fjdmurillo 17:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Screenshot are usually copyrighted images, so you should upload to, as they're not under a free license. Maxim(talk) 18:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, it is not possible to upload the image. Spanish Wikipedia disabled uploads so the image cannot be uploaded there (and AFAIK Spanish WP never allowed fair use). The software you mentioned appears to be copyrighted, so a free screenshot is not possible. --Matt314 19:12, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks both a lot. As Matt314 says, Spanish Wikipedia does not allow uploading images, and redirects you directly to Commons.--Fjdmurillo 10:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

image copying

try as I might I cannot find instructions for the following. I wish to import from [8] to wikipedia some of the images concerning the maths of sundials. I plan to put into my wikipedia sandbox, try and convert to svg. and start translations and finally upload to Commons; or if possible do this all within Commons, then insert into the article. Is there a correct order in doing this and will the license travel across with it. Sorry people lots of questions in one. Thanks Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 19:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Edmund,
Some of those images are already on Commons, so they can be used in any Wikimedia project right now: e.g. [[:Image:Beijing sundial.jpg], Image:AnalemmaVitruvii.jpg. I guess you are talking about the diagrams? They appear to be mostly be de:Benutzer:Fantagu.
It's up to you whether or not you transfer the originals to Commons. If you do, please be sure to use the CommonsHelper tool.
Otherwise, you're welcome to just upload the new ones you create. If you use the existing ones as a basis for the new ones, yes, you should keep the same license as the originals, and link to the original image page, and mention the name of the author of the original.
You will probably want to use Inkscape for converting the images to SVG. There is a little bit of advice at Commons:Transition to SVG but sadly not much.
If you have any more questions or if I didn't answer something properly, please feel free to ask more questions here. thanks, pfctdayelise (说什么?) 06:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
many thanks; the journey begins, I will if I get into difficulties return. Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 09:31, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


Why can't I make the English part of the image description appear?

This is very weird (look at the "edit" window to see my translation). It is simply hidden, and I can't figure out why. All the characters I used are also used in the German version, so I can't figure out why this triggers something...

I even tried rewriting it from scratch.

Ingolfson 05:37, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Even putting them into the standard info format didn't help. Whats wrong with this? Always used to work. Ingolfson 05:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Seems that it was "(probably= Friedrich..." that was the problem, it works after removing the =. I have no clue why though (explanation would be appreciated ;o). Finn Rindahl 08:02, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
The equals sign probably caused the whole thing to be interpreted as the defining of a variable within the template. 08:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
As explained in m:Help:Template#Equals sign in parameter value putting the equal sign in the value of an unnamed parameter in the template call cause incorrect behaviour. -- AnyFile 10:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Information icon.svg

How can this image be public domain, when the author just converted this GPL image from png into svg? -- 22:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Because the png is under a free license, therefore you're free to modify it and license it accordingly. That's what the author did, in short. Maxim(talk) 01:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
But since when does "license it accordingly" mean that you can just ignore the license (GPL) and release it into the public domain? -- 02:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Does the author of the svg image used the png to create the svg? If not it just another image that give the same result, but was not copied from the other. The only problem, in may opinion, can be if the first image has original, creative or artistic contents, in which case coping them would be a copy. But I can not think that an i into a circle can be considered creative, original or artistic. This is of course only my opinion. Consider for instance if someone write a computer program to compute the greatest common divisor of two given numbers. Then someone else see the program and want to write a new program that does the same thing. If the new program do not reuse the code it is not a copy. -- AnyFile 22:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Howto videos

I've prepared some video clips demonstrating how to set up support for open file formats (see Spreadopenmedia). These are recorded on Windows and show the use of various software packages (e.g. CDex, Firefox, future ones to feature VLC, iTunes, Winamp). Are they likely to be eligible for CC-BY publication or is the inclusion of these programs going to disqualify them? --Imalone 13:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

For screenshots, we generally say that if the software is free software, the screenshot is accepted here. For video I imagine it will be the same situation. So Firefox and VLC would be fine, iTunes probably not. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. -Imalone 18:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

image sizing

i'm having problems with images in the commons 'not' resizing in wiki-articles, even when specifying pixel size i have two examples: en:Eberhard Waechter (baritone), and en:Johann von Herbeck. both use the standard image sytax: [[image:phoo.jpg|thumb|300px|caption of foo]], without any affect. any suggestions? thanks...cheers! --emerson7 | Talk 18:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The images were uploaded in low resolution, the image handling software obviously does not support to enlarge the images (would not look good anyway), so they cannot displayed larger than 183 px or 180 px, respectively. --Matt314 12:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Please check I've done the right thing and the right way...

Hi, I've modified Image:Florenca109.jpg to Image:Florenca109_v2.jpg. Can someone please check that I've licensed it correctly, etc. See [9]. I'll keep my eye on it to make sure I pick up on any errors I might have made. thanks --Merbabu 02:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I did some minor changes. You put GFDL in the work, but this would only be possible if the original image was GFDL, as well. As that image was only licensed under CC-BY-SA you also can only license it under that licensed (except you have permission from the author to release it under GFDL). --Matt314 08:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)