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New version of image already here

I have created a modified version of for use at the page "Guatemalan claim to Belizean territory" on Wikipedia. At the upload page for new files, I see no specific option for these (maybe it is a trifling difference from the third option). Which of the following should I select?

   "* It is entirely my own work
   * It is from Flickr (see our guide)
   * It is from another Wikimedia project
     (Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikinews, etc)
   * It is from a US federal government source
   * It is a free software screenshot
   * It is from somewhere else
   * I don't know who the author is, or I don't know what license applies
   * I need help figuring out what the license is"

Thanks, DO56 20:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I suggest your own work, but note that you edited it from a previous version, and include a link to the old one in the other_versions paramater. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Estonian speaker needed


I need someone who understand estonian (I think it is estonian) to verify the license of this picture Image:Lenna-K.jpg, from a Flickr clone site, the license I think is this.--Fernando Estel ☆ · 星 commons es 22:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

"Kõik õigused autorile" means basically the same as "all rights reserved". Samulili 08:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Do I create a new page for a cropped photo?

I would like to crop a public domain photo appearing in the Commons before using it in a Wikipedia article. Should I create a new Commons page with the cropped version (and a pointer to the original) and point the Wikipedia article to the new version, or is there a better way to do this?

Thanks. Espertus 05:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Usually, it's best to upload the image under a new name (as opposed to overwriting the existing one). LX (talk, contribs) 08:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I was unclear. I wouldn't have overwritten the original photo. I ended up uploading the cropped version and having the two description pages link to each other through the "other versions" field. Thanks for your help. Espertus 18:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I wanna put Ashley Tisdale logo on commons but in a message to me, said that if i don't put license, Commons Wikimedia block me. So what i gonna put?


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pedrovip (talk • contribs) 19:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not upload non-free copyrighted logotypes to Commons. If you cannot find an applicable, acceptable license at Commons:Copyright tags, it's probably because the image should not be uploaded here. If you continue to upload copyright violations, you may well be blocked, so in the future, please ask before uploading if you are unsure. LX (talk, contribs) 17:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Markings in photos?

I've uploaded "free use" photos for use in the Shinto Muso Ryu article. (the original website the photos came from has released the photos for public use). The photos each have a certain marking that denounce where the photo came from. As shown in this photo. Are these markings violating any sort of rule for photos on wikipedia? Fred26 12:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The watermark isn't beautiful, but it's no big problem. The licensing is more of an issue. You aren't the copyright holder of the photo, you cannot release it under GFDL. The site explicitly states "All further use of the content on this site must be for non-profit purposes." This is not accepted on Commons. If the photo is old enough to be public domain, it is yet a different story. In that case, the site cannot claim copyright on the photo either. Do you have any information who made the photo and when? --rimshottalk 16:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I see. Well all the photos I've uploaded are the possesion of the organisation that this website represents. In this case its an organisation dedicated to a Japanese martial art named Shinto Muso Ryu Jodo. I've personally both emailed and talked to in person with the webmaster in charge of both the site and the photos and gotten his clearance to use the pics on Wikipedia. With the exception of the above posted black & white photo, all photos were snapped by and for the website by the above organisation. The Black & white photo is of the organisations current leader and was taken in the 1940's or 50's.
I suppose it would have been better if the website had had a small disclaimer: "these photos are allowed to be on Wikipedia". Fred26 18:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately Wikipedia use would not be enough either. The images would have to have one of the licenses mentioned at COM:L#Acceptable licenses. --rimshottalk 19:24, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
What if I contact the organisation and get permission for the photos to be used on Wiki (and commercial use) in writing via "" Fred26 19:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, if you could get them to send an e-mail stating that they accept usage, including commercial and derivative use, that would do nicely. See Commons:Email_templates for examples of how this can be done. Regards, Finn Rindahl 21:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyright of image

Am I right in thinking that this Image:Gordon Brown -World Economic Forum Annual Meeting Davos 25Jan2008.jpg has an appropirate copyright for commons? Snowmanradio 21:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you are ;o) Finn Rindahl 21:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for confirming that, I wanted to double check before uploading any more from that photostream. Snowmanradio 22:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Geographical location / coordinates?

How do you add a geographical location, especially coordinates (longitude, latitude) to an media on commons? I searched FAQ, HELP and Templates without success. Could someone add an answer there as well? Vigilius 17:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Figure out what the coordinates are (using a GPS device or an online map service for example), and then add {{location}} or one of the other geocoding templates to the image description page. Does that answer your question? Since you're the one who looked for it, where do you think would be a logical place for this information (if it really was what you were looking for)? LX (talk, contribs) 17:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thanks, that seems to be it. I looked at the FAQ, at Template:Information (I just updated the doc page and the first steps with a pointer to geocoding templates). However, two more places might useful, please help in adding the information there if possible: I searched Commons:Tag_categories and the only likely subcategory Category:Infobox_templates for occurrences of geo, coord, and location and found nothing. I did just add the infobox category to the location template you describe, but please check whether this is appropriate, and which other categories might be fitting in addition. Vigilius 18:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Image Files

I am trying to download some image files of country flags for my son's report. The Scotland flag is scotland.svg. What kind of file is .svg? What software do I use to open it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 01:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

SVG stands for Scalable Vector Graphics. You should be able to simply open them in your browser. If you want to edit them, you'll need a program like Inkscape (free) or Adobe Illustrator. If you would prefer a PNG instead all you need to do is save the thumbnail instead of the actual file and since SVGs are scalable you can make them any size you want. I quick little trick is to put [[Image:File_name.svg|the size you want]] anywhere on this site when you're editing a page. Hit preview and then right click on the image and save it. It will end in .png. Rocket000 05:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyrights question

I recently added an image at,_San_Francisco,_California showing the boundaries of Financial District. This image was a snapshot of Google Maps.

But this image was deleted by the editor EugeneZelenko marking it as copyrights violation. I am not able contact him. Wiki is throwing some error.

To have valid Copy rights what should I have to do? Since I am not so good in drawing I don't think I can draw a map on my own.

Please help me out. Here is the image -

Thanks Arun

— Preceding unsigned comment added by The arun (talk • contribs) 02:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

The content at Google Maps is copyrighted and under a non-free license. Commons can only accept content in the public domain and content under a free license. Please do not recreate deleted copyright violations. If you do, or if you continue to upload copyright violations, you may be blocked, so please make sure you read and understand Commons:Licensing before proceeding.
If you cannot draw a map yourself and license it freely, you would have to find a source that provides maps under an acceptable license, such as LX (talk, contribs) 14:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Good morning,

I do not understand why some of my downloaded pictures and files were deleted or are might be deleted. Could you give me more explanation concerning this matter please? Also, the downloaded files were made by us so which copyright do I have to choose while downloading my files? Thank you very much. I am looking forward to hearing from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tabbealumpp (talk • contribs) 07:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

(To Tabbealumpp) When I looked at your question, my point was your pictures were clearly copvyios because they were downloaded from a unknown page. Do you mean what license you should choose when you upload your own picture? See COM:CT for more information. --Kanonkas(talk) 13:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
(To user The arun) That image was a copvyio because it was copied from Google without permission. See help section for your first time Commons --Kanonkas(talk) 13:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
(To LX & Kanonkas) Thanks a lot for helping me out. I will redo the map from Openmaps. I am new to Wikipedia, so failed to understand the reason behind copyrights violation. Thanks Again - Arun
(To LX or Kanonkas) By the way I lost my user account I guess. I am not able to login. Even forgot password functionality is also not working. How can I reset my account? - Thanks Arun

Fractal Broccoli copyright ?

Hi I want to use the Fractal Broccoli image as a background on the machines at our university. Do I have any copyright issues or can I just use it ? 14:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you please specify image name to find out it license? --EugeneZelenko 14:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I assume he means Image:Fractal Broccoli.jpg, which is a featured picture. The page states that it's a public domain image, so no copyright issues to deal with. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


How can I go about getting Image:WoodStork_Alligator.jpg deleted? I uploaded the wrong photo at first, and then submitted the right photo, but the bird is not a woodstork so I need that image deleted so I can upload it under the correct name. Thank you! JDiPierro 21:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Upload the image with the correct name, tag the old one with {{bad name|Image:new name.jpg}}, and then an administrator will get around to deleting. 哦,是吗?(висчвын) 21:29, 07 May 2008 (GMT)

images of art

I want to upload an image from the National Gallery of Art, the image is of a 1707 painting, clearly the copyright has expired, but is uploading that image a copyright violation, or is any image that ilustrates a material with expired copyrights ok to use?

lets say i wanna upload the image of the mona lisa from the Louvre's website, is that ok to do, even though the image is probably a recent photograph but of a painting that no longer has copyright? Mijotoba 02:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

See Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag. Kelly 02:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


I would like to upload a photo an Australian coin (date 1990s) with an image of a Kookaburra on it. Are there any copyright restrictions on photos of coins? Snowmanradio 10:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there are. See Commons:Currency#Australia. LX (talk, contribs) 11:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Animated Map

How can I make an animated map, such as this one?
Thanks(Red4tribe 23:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC))

Well, you need a map, some photo editing software and software to create animated GIFs. The latter is annoyingly hard to find. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Paint Shop Pro has an extra program called Animation Shop which is able to create animated gifs. Come to think of it, perhaps that program is no longer offered as part of Paint Shop Pro; though it is in the version 5 of PSP that I use. License condition almost certainly prevent me from giving you a copy, but I might be able to help you if you contact me at en:User Talk:Astronut 09:36, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


I cannot seem to be able to post my photo in my page , can you help please? Nadia McCaffrey

If you mean use an uploaded image on your user page? Just use the following code, replacing "UPLOADEDIMAGENAME.EXT" with the name of the file you uploaded: [[Image:UPLOADEDIMAGENAME.EXT|thumb]] --ShakataGaNai Talk 03:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Updated Image

Another user copied an image I created on en:Wikipedia to Commons. Unfortunately, he did this just days before I modified the image, so I suggested that he re-upload it to Commons. Unfortunately, he has re-uploaded it under a different name, leaving commons with two very similar images. I'm not a Commons user, so how do I delete the original image (Image:BurjDubaiHeight.png) and rename the new image (Image:BurjDubaiHeight (1).png) to BurjDubaiHeight.png? en:User:Astronaut 09:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Is there really any need to delete the old one? You could set up a deletion discussion, but frankly that seems fairly pointless. There's no real problem with having the two images. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Modified image

I have created a modified version of this image, placing the two pictures side-by-side, because in some -pedia articles the current portrait format disrupts the page formatting if the article section is quite short. Can I upload this new version (preferably with the same license and credit to "Noever, R., J. Cronise, and R. A. Relwani"), and how do I do that if I don't have an account here on Commons? en:User:Astronaut 11:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, first off you can upload it, just add [[:Image:Caffeinated spiderwebs.jpg]] to the "other versions" section. As for uploading it, the obvious answer is to get a commons account. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:08, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


I am new to the site. I registered four days ago but have had to re-register numerous times to be able to loggin, even though I know I entered my ID and password correctly. I managed to upload an image to Wikipedia Commons, but haven't been able to figure out how to load it on to the desired image box on the desired page. In fact, I can't get to the desired page at all, even using the Search feature. Is there a way to get from Wikipedia Commons to a Wikipedia person page in order to edit it?


First of all, please sign your posts on this page with ~~~~, so that we know who we're talking to. Also, you have a welcome message on your talk page containing lots of information. Then, to your image. Please add a license tag, or it will be deleted. You should also add a description, so that it is clear who is shown on the picture. To add the picture to a wikipedia article, just open the article and click "edit". You can add the picture with [[Image:Jo.JPG|thumb]]. Best regards, --rimshottalk 18:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyright of BrazilWorldMap image

Is the Brazilworldmap image free? Would like to use it in a presentation and need to know if it is permissable to display image to highlight location of Brazil within the world map.

Image:BrazilWorldMap.png is in the public domain, this means you can do anything with it that you want. --rimshottalk 21:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Discussion for Images of Inventions

If one uploads an image of a new device they have invented, let's say - a better fly swatter, is it OK to use the discussion page to describe the fly swatter? Doug youvan 22:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

This might be adequate for some images: If one uploads an image that has an exploded view of a device, and the components are numbered in the image, is it OK to use the discussion to relate the component numbers with component names? Doug youvan 23:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
No, no one would ever see it. Each image should have a description (see the upload form)- it is in the description you put details like that. A reader who clicks on the image sees the image and the description. The component names should be written in your local language and in English. Details of patents should also go here. Where possible you add a geotag or a [[Category:Location not applicable]] tag as well. The discussion page is used to suggest improvements, debate copyright of the image and the meaning of life! Hope this is helpful.ClemRutter 10:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Clem. I now see what you mean, and you are correct that a user would see the description under the image long before they would click on the discussion tab. The description also looks like the best place to put a link to a PDF file containing source code for computer-generated images. Good thing you made this suggestion before I did a bunch more uploads. Very helpful. Doug youvan 11:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done

Does this animated gif play?

Does [1] play in your browser? It should be a repeated loop with about one frame per second. I'm especially interested in problems that might be observed on minority operating systems and browsers (not MS, not IE) before I upload more of these and create a big mess. Thanks. Doug youvan 17:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

It plays, though the image has a lot of white/blackspace which isn't used. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Matt. I'll try to get frame border size under control in future uploads. Doug youvan 19:30, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done

Can't upload an image

I'm a registered member, and even received an email for confirmation. In fact I'm updating a page of my own musical band, but when I want to upload a photo, I'm asked to log-in again and again, saying that my account doesn't exist...

Why could be this problem?? Maybe because I'm just in the spanish version and have to create an account also in the english one??

Yes. You need to have an account on each wiki you want to login for now. However note that you can most pages without logging in (exposing your IP address though). Also images uploaded to Commons can be used on all Wikimedia projects without the need of local uploads. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Johannes-Hoogendoornstraat Haarlem.jpg

I recieved this message. What is the problem. The information (description and licensing) is completely correct! There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which lic ense to choose. Thank you. This message was added automatically by Filbot, if you need some help about it, ask its master or go to the Commons:Help desk. --Filnik 15:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC) - Gouwenaar 11:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

The message was put there over 2 months ago. From the look of it, you added a licence 3 mins after it tagged it as problematic. Just ignore that one, but please adda licence to Image:Hunebed D25 bij Bronneger.jpg. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I 've done it. Gouwenaar 14:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Shroedinger -> Schrödinger image name change

How do I change the name of an image that I uploaded from Shroedinger -> Schrödinger ? Is that something only an administrator can do? Doug youvan 22:26, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Image renaming is not possible yet, but due very soon. -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I can then name more logically, too. Doug youvan 23:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done

Need a revert on an image

This was brought to my attention on en:Image talk:Soldier running in water.jpg, but Image:Soldier running in water.jpg is currently a photoshopped version of the original, and numerous proportions have been altered. As the file history says, the new, photoshopped version was uploaded a couple of months ago by User:Adam.J.W.C. without reasoning. Would someone (any user) be able to revert to the first, un-modified (other than being cropped) version of the file, please? I would do it, but I don't think anons can. I have an account on enwiki, but obviously this is a commons image. Lastly, apologies if this is the wrong place for this message. I'm not familiar with commons. 04:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, a quick read of the page history shows that Adam J.W.C. mentions that "the muscles have been enhanced using photoshop". I don't feel that this is a necessary or appropriate change, however, and his version of the image is a lower resolution. Can anyone else see if they agree with me, and revert to the old version of the image? (old version is here, new version here. Flicking between the two shows the changes made much better). 04:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done. Reverted. giggy (:O) 04:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

File Move

Hello, Can someone please move the file that I just uploaded (Image:UEFA 5 and 4 Star Stadia a.png) to replace Image:UEFA 5 and 4 Star Stadia.png; this is per the instructions given when I uploaded the image. The new version is updated to deal with some of the issues raised at the Wikipedia article on UEFA stadia. I could not directly replace image as my account on Wikimedia is new. Pretty Green 10:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Need .en namespace updated for:

Image:Genetic Code Structure.JPG

Doug youvan 20:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I suggest you try the help desk on wikipedia. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:08, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Can another editor place {{nowcommons}} on the en version of this image for me? I'm not allowed to edit on the other side. Doug youvan 02:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Everyone's allowed to edit wikipedia... that's sort of the point. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done ncd added Finn Rindahl 19:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Questionable Pic Copyright

This pic is a screen capture, not a photo taken by a person. I have no "proof", but judging by how the pic was taken, how screen captures look and the angle of the picture - this pic was not taken by the uploader. What recourse do I have? I have nothing personal against the pic's subject or the uploader, but it's permissions are incorrect. -- 13:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I suggest tagging it for deletion and seeing what other people think of it. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
HAve you discussed it with the uploader? It is obviously a WWE copyrighted image of Randy "Macho Man" Savage, being a screen shot of a TV program (probably Saturday Night Main Event - guessing by the outfit). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawezilla (talk • contribs) 17:25, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Site using Wikipedia pictures without permission?

I know Wikipedia Commons is media for free use, but I just noticed a site that's taken pictures enmasse without crediting Wikipedia or the original takers of the photograph.

Example: Maine Coon Cat Maine Coon on Wikipedia Maine Coon on offending site

Yorkie dog Yorkie on Wikipedia Yorkie on offending site

Desert cottontail rabbit on Wikipedia on offending site 16:33, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, the first and last ones are public domain, so there are no restrictions. As to the second one, I'd say that that is probably violation as the site claims copyright. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Or the other way round, since here there is name and source missing. Maybe someone could check out the original upload on en.WP. -- Cecil 19:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
It was originally uploaded to WP on 11 September 2005, before's copyright date of 2006, by w:User:RegisCartoons, who hasn't been back since May 2007 (and barely did anything in the meantime, so he's probably unreachable). In all likelihood, it's his own image since he uploaded another image of the same dog about a year later, and the dog was about a year older. So yeah, probably figures anything from Commons is free to use and to slap their own copyright notice on, even though it's GFDL. —Angr 19:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
As far as the Wayback Machine tells, the upload at popularpets was on March 12 2007, so compared to September 2005 there is quite a time lapse. -- Cecil 19:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Use of logos etc for defunct manufacturers?

I am working through all the classic British Bikes as part of the Wikipedia Motorcycling Project and need to better understand the position regarding logos and sales brochures etc of long since vanished British motorcycle manufacturers. I've got loads of images but there is nobody still (alive?) around to ask permission to use then here. I find it hard to envisage any of the original authors objecting as this is (to a few of us) an important part of our heritage that could soon be lost and is best preserved here. As long as I credit the originator as clearly as I can, is it OK to use a term such as 'defunct manufacturer'? (See Image:Spitfire badge.gif for example) TR001 07:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

How do I get an image I uploaded removed from wikicommons?

Is it possible to remove my image after it has been uploaded to wikicommons? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 07:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's possible. An admin can do this for you. Is there a specific reason? Sometimes a deletion request is necessary so the community can decide, especially if the image is currently being used. Rocket000 09:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Computer code on discussion page?

Retrieved from ""

On images that I have generated, should I also be dropping my source code into the discussion page of those images? The intent is to describe the image in a manner that will survive a web site such as 2 - which might not be around forever. (The code is owned by me, so there is no IP / copyright issue.) Doug youvan 14:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I am not aware that other generated images have source code at all so I guess maybe a note that it is available might be all that is needed? Many thanks --Herby talk thyme 14:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
(Yeah, I prefer pics vastly over that other stuff.) So, here is an example - from another contributor - that we can use for this "code discussion". One person might see beauty and another person might see a principle in fluid dynamics. They are both happy with the image as is. A third person, possibly in the field of fluid dynamics, might want to know what is underneath the image in terms of computer code, and ask: Was this years of proprietary work or is there a public-domain, canned program somewhere that could be used to make a similar animated gif in five minutes flat? Let's say the latter is true, but only referenced to a website. Hypothetically, that website disappears ten years from now. From that perspective, it would seem that at least a terse summary of the algorithms should have been deposited - contributor’s option - on the image discussion page. So, placing computer code on a discussion page for a computer-generated image falls between two very different extremes: On the one hand, it is clutter. On the other hand, it enables future work. For now, I'd like to place a limited amount of key computer code behind some of my computer-generated images. Is that a policy issue, or should I proceed? Doug youvan 15:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Give me the wonderful images here (mostly) over some content in other places any day! I'm no expert Doug so I think it would be best to post at the help desk - that way you should get people with some better idea on the specific subject. I understand the issues but I'm happy to admit when I am not sufficiently knowledgeable to give a definitive answer. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 15:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Moving over there, thanks. Doug youvan 15:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Help desk: Please read above, and instruct me, thanks. Doug youvan 15:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Just do it. It's certainly a good idea. You might want to try using the <source lang="..."> tag to get proper source code formatting. Lupo 16:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks - that was easy Doug youvan 16:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done Doug youvan 23:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Missing Commons image, now in .en

I uploaded File:Genetic Code Structure.jpg in the Commons namespace; now it is no longer in Commons, but I see it over in the .en namespace as [2] with links including a project. How do I restore this image in Commons without doing a new upload? Will a new upload break the links coming in from .en? Doug youvan 11:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

From the look of it, you didn't include a licence, so it was probably just deleted. Just re-upload it as Image:Genetic Code Structure.jpg and slap a {{nowcommons}} on the en version. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Matt. [[Image:Genetic_Code_Structure.JPG]] is now re-uploaded into Commons. I can't edit on .en. Can another editor place the {{nowcommons}} on the en version for me and let's see if the link turns from red to blue? Doug youvan 11:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC); added nowikis because a big image just popped in here. Doug youvan 12:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Have you made a screenshot from the image at en.WP: Image:Genetic Code Structure.JPG? By the way, images that were published somewhere else before [3] and don't have the same licence there, need a COM:OTRS-ticket, just to proove that you are you and not an impersonator of you. You can find a template here. Just send it from the email-adress which is named at the beginning of the paper. -- Cecil 15:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Cecil. I no longer have access to email sending from MIT. Can I send from Doug youvan 17:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I think so, but I don't really know how the people at OTRS are working. Just try it. -- Cecil 18:21, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again, Cecil.Doug youvan 19:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done Doug youvan 23:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

urgent request to move file

Hello, I found that Image:May12_2008_Sichuan,_China_earthquake_shake_map.jpg is too old to be used worldwide. The length of the fault is too short. Now, the fault is believed to have more than the double length. Current file on Commons is ver. 3. USGS is now distributing ver. 7. I think it's better to replace the ver. 3 with ver. 7, because this file is used in many pages in wikimedia and all of ver. 3 needs to be replaced.

I tried "upload a new version" by myself to find that I am too new to do. So, as Upload warning said, I uploaded the file as Image:May12 2008 Sichuan, China earthquake shake map ver7.jpg instead. Could anyone move ver. 7 to ver. 3? Thank you for your cooperation. --Pigeon neo 16:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

What a mess!! While I was struggling with my newness, Matthiasb just uplodaded ver. 7. I just made a duplicated file. What a useless effort I made! Now, I've got to learn how to request to delete... Thank you anyway. --Pigeon neo 17:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done Don't worry about it. All is well. Image:May12 2008 Sichuan, China earthquake shake map ver7.jpg (the dupe) was deleted. --ShakataGaNai Talk 06:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

How do we handle Barbie?

Given this litigation, what are the rules here on Commons? Doug youvan 14:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe it depends on whether the object of copyright is the subject of the photo - if it is, then it's probably a copyvio. If it's incidental, then shouldn't be a problem. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Here is an example. Doug youvan 22:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

how to embed an image i have uploaded into my wikipage?

Como gravar uma imagewm que eu baixei em outra página?

To put an thumnailed image on your page, add [[Image:imagename.jpg|thumb]]. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
At Portuguese-language projects, add [[Imagem:imagename.jpg|thumb]]. You can also add a caption to the image thus: [[Imagem:imagename.jpg|thumb|Caption.]]. —Angr 18:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand HOW TO apply a symbol to the images uploaded. Does that not automatically be applied when uploading after answering the quesitons in regard to the image? I'm not aware of HOW TO DO THIS since I followed the instructions to add 'public domain' as the copyright holder of the images thus giving permission. Any advice would be appreciate.— Preceding unsigned comment added by GM Hornsby (talk • contribs) 20:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand the question. Are you asking how to properly licence images? If so, I suggest you look at Commons:Licensing. The template to add for public domain is {{PD-self}}. Oh, and please remember to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~). -mattbuck (Talk) 22:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
(Matt: Perhaps this user is trying to get a PD symbol stamped directly into the image.) Doug youvan 14:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you trying to use the images which I deleted in Commons:Deletion requests/Image:MallorcaSpainB4x5.jpg? Please see your talk page where I explained how to send the necessary permissions to OTRS. --MichaelMaggs 15:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

He commented on Image:MallorcaSpainB4x5.jpg. (which has no media). Rocket000 21:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Free .avi to .ogg server?

Does anyone know of a server that can can be accessed via the web that will accept a .avi file and return a .ogg file? (I have found similar services for MS Word -> .pdf) Doug youvan 23:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, are there any plans for Commons to use a format other than ogg for video? Doug youvan 00:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I doubt there are any websites that will convert avi to ogg for you. You may be able to find some like ffmpeg2theora that will do it on your local machine. Per your second question. Yes there are plans to allow uploads of other formats, eventually. Not any time soon - from what I've heard. Hope that helps. --ShakataGaNai Talk 02:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Their is a philosophical objection among many high level WMF staff that WMF should not support any format that does not allow for the creation of free and open source encoders and decoders. That excludes many patent encumbered file formats. Dragons flight 02:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
It would be great to remain open source. I did try ffmpeg2theora, saw a DOS screen on MS Vista for a split second, and then I could not find any trace of what it had done. I repeated this action, carefully. Same problem. With dll updates coming in frequently under MS control, it is amazing that anyone can stay ahead of them. I'll look at my SAGE installation and see if there is an analogous trick. Where do I post for this community if we figure out a better method to get to ogg? Also, I thought mp3 was thrown into the public domain years ago by an error on the part of a patent firm. Doug youvan 04:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I do believe the ffmpeg2theora is a command line application. So you should launch a copy of the command prompt, and execute the exe for ffmpeg2theora in there. You can also pop onto IRC and see if anyone knows. I believe there are less than 600 videos on commons - so there aren't alot of people uploading. Kudos to you for trying though. As for MP3, it is unfortunately not PD'd you can read about it on en.wp, here. Personally I believe the use of theora is a good thing - but it would be nice to be able to upload almost any format and have it trans coded. But video trans coding still can be a tricky and time consuming process. --ShakataGaNai Talk 06:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done and thanks Doug youvan 23:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

can mkv (Matroska), as a format, be considered as a patent free format? Supposed, of course, we ask/take that the codec used in it must be patent free in order to be allowed in the future? Esby 21:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Derived work

I resized an image I found on wikimedia. The original has two licences. what I am supposed to understand? What licence should I choose for the resized image ? Here is what I did:

Is it all right? Thank you Pamplelune 22:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd say just relicence it as CC-BY-SA-3.0 - the cc original licence just means you can modify it as long as you credit the original author and distribute it under a licence which is compatible with the original. That being said, it looks to me like the original is a copyright violation. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, OK the original has some permission on a userpage... that should be moved to an OTRS thingy. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, I changed the GFDL with CC-by-sa-3.0. I hope there is no copyright violation. All is about how we interpret this written permission. Pamplelune 23:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I completely readed the permission (I mean the bottom part). It's pretty clear there is no copyright issue. Pamplelune 23:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, not really. Images which are copyright but are allowed for use on the commons should have an OTRS ticket explaining it, otherwise they should not be here. A copy/paste of an email on a userpage is not sufficient. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:58, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Oopsie, "you may use the images on wikipedia as long as you attribute" is not equivalent with cc-by-sa - I'm tagging them {{no permission}} - if no valid permission is given to OTRS within 7 days they will have to be deleted. Regards, Finn Rindahl 11:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't know what ORTS means and what is a ticket, could you please give the direct links in the documentation? I will try to clear the situation before soon (7 days sounds quite impossible ) 14:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I am afraid, but 'permission to use on Wikipedia (only)' is not enough for commons. Free licence means the image can be reused outside of Wikipedia. Esby 15:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
COM:OTRS (sorry, longtimers have a way of speaking in abbreviations noone else understands :-). It's our permission e-mail archive; a small group of volunteers processes these. The e-mail address to forward the permission to, once you got it, is Mention in the e-mail precisely which images are concerned, and include both sides of the e-mail exchange (your asking, and their replies). Each incoming permission gets a "ticket number"; if the permission is deemed sufficient, that ticket number will be mentioned on the image description pages so that it is clear which permission relates to these images, so that it can be re-checked in the future if any doubts should ever arise. Don't worry if the images are deleted in the meantime, they can be restored once we have a formal permission. Lupo 15:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Full Resolution

Kann ich Photos in "full resolution (z.B. 3008 x 2000 pixels" herunterladen (z.B. Image: Treviso-canale03.jpg)? Wie geht das?

Einfach dort, wo das angezeigt wird, auf "Full resolution" clicken (oder einfach auf das bild selbst), und dann das Bild speichern. -- Duesentrieb 15:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

AP Cygne.jpg image of Anna Pavlova as The Dying Swan

I am trying to source the origin of this image so I may request a high res version of it. Can anyone help? MaresH 23:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Humm, it's bad that it doesn't state source. However, the image I think may be a scan of an old photo, so resolution is limited to whatever the photo was printed at. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Contributor wants official document for CV

The fellow that released Image:Jon Favreau-2008.jpg and Image:Robert Downey Jr-2008.JPG send me an email asking if I could send him an official document (?) from Wikimedia that he could include in his curriculum because he's a photography professor. I know we don't have that sort of thing so could someone suggest a tactful response?--Yamanbaiia 14:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

What exactly is he looking for? Powers 15:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
He's just asking for an "official document", something that says "hey, you've released your file and we are using it". I don't know what to tell him, he already has a screenshot of the Wikipedia articles on his Flickr, I guess he wants something more...?--Yamanbaiia 20:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Tactful, hm. Suggest him a looser formulation of the sort "I've been a voluntary contributor to Wikimedia Commons releasing images http://... and http://... under the free CC-BY-SA-3.0 license". His name on the images and OTRS ticket should be enough to prove his contribution, while the emphasis on volunteering hints that no official document may be released by the Foundation. Hope this helps. Spiritia 21:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Leisha Hailey

We started a new blog for Leisha Hailey and we want to post the link on Wikimedia. Can you please guide us step by step on how to do this?

My email is redacted — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:|]] ([[User talk:|talk]] • contribs)

Hello. The wikimedia commons is a free image repository. I think you probably want wikipedia. HOWEVER, it is unlikely your blog would be an eligible link as Wikipedia is not a directory of fansites. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Current time

The current time is being displayed in the upload history right now (at least it is here, I can provide a screenshot if necessary). Is this intentional? -- carol 02:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I am wrong, sorry (off by 10 days error if such a thing exists). They are however bolded, and distracting. -- carol 02:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

First image creation problem

I have just created my first map at Image:Rush Street via A bot is hassling me about my tags. I am not sure what is wrong.--TonyTheTiger 14:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Lar is helping him out here. Finn Rindahl 15:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Screenshots from Google Maps.

I have a screenshot I want to use for an airfield. It is: Image:HarbourGraceAirfield.jpg.

I am not sure if I have the correct license. I have maintained the copyright on the image as requested by the terms of use by Google Maps. Can someone tell me if it is the correct license before I post it to the Harbor Grace Airfield page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawezilla (talk • contribs) 7:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Screenshots of non-free contents should not be uploaded to Commons. I've deleted the image. Please read Commons:Licensing. LX (talk, contribs) 17:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Is there a license that covers maping software images that are availiable on the internet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawezilla (talk • contribs) 15:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

(Please sign your posts.)
Like all copyrightable works, regardless of the publication media used, the copyright holder chooses the license. Because different copyright holders choose different licensing terms, there is of course no license that covers all such images. The licensing terms selected by Google Maps are in their terms of use. If you read Commons:Licensing and Google Maps' terms of use, you will see that images from Google Maps have not been published under a free license by their copyright holder and that they must therefore not be uploaded here.
Maps from Open Streetmap are published under the {{cc-by-sa}} license, which is compatible with Commons:Licensing. NASA World Wind is a free mapping software (the stable version unfortunately only works under Microsoft Windows) which comes with several public domain datasets, including satellite imagery. We have a licensing tag for such images: {{PD-WorldWind}}. LX (talk, contribs) 18:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I-84 (Oregon).svg

I want to copy Image:I-84 (Oregon).svg to be under the filename Image:I-84 (Utah).svg, but I am not sure what license I may use for it. I am sure I can copy the original image to this new filename as per the licenses provided on there, but I don't know what licenses to include on the copied image. Thanks - CountyLemonade 00:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

{{PD-USGov-MUTCD}} is the licence template. But before using those names, please see Interstate shields—there are a whole bunch of shields under a set naming convention and categories. Could you use that naming convention and categorisation? Thanks, O (висчвын) 03:57, 22 May 2008 (GMT)
Thank you, and I will use the naming conventions. CountyLemonade 05:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Old family photos licensing

I uploaded a photo of my late grandfather Jan Karczewski. I am the owner of the hardcopy of that picture taken in 1945, long before my birth and shortly before his death. I have no idea how to fulfill your licensing requirements - I don't know who was the author, and he is most likely dead anyway. I would like to include the picture in the devoted to him entry of Polish Wikipedia. Please help.



If image was made in Poland, you could apply {{PD-Poland}}. --EugeneZelenko 15:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

(de | en) Screenshoot from a mediaplayer with creative commons content


ich möchte einen Schreenshoot vom RealPlayer unter Mac OS X der Bildern anzeigt, die unter der creatic commons Lizenz erstellen. Diese will ich im commons hochladen. Was muss ich beachten? Welche Lizenz kann ich wählen.

Danke und beste Grüße



i want to use an upload a screenshoot of the realplayer with content under teh creativ commons licence. Wich licence must I choose for Wiki Commons?

Thank you best regards from Germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luettmatten (talk • contribs) 13:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hallo, sofern das Bild Teile einer urheberrechtlich geschützten Software (z. B. RealPlayer/Mac OS X) enthält, ist das Hochladen auf Commons nicht gestattet. Der Screenshot kann jedoch lokal auf einigen Projekten hochgeladen werden (siehe auch COM:FAIRUSE#Material under the fair use clause is not allowed on the Commons). →Christian 14:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

missing from Special:UncategorizedImages?

I have come across an uncategorized image Image:Sopotwaly.JPG and just before adding the category (please don't categorize yet as discussion could become pointless!). I have checked where I expected it to be found Special:UncategorizedImages (&limit=50&offset=450), and could not track it. Is it a mechanism I don't understand or a bug? Łukasz W. 14:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Most likely these special pages are not updated frequently to reduce servers workload. --EugeneZelenko 14:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, the photo was added almost a year ago... [4]. Special pages updated once a year? Łukasz W. 15:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


I've notcied the "links" section in images that are in Wikimedia Commons doesn't contain where the image is used in Wikipedia.

For instance: "Beagle 745.jpg" appears in the Wikipedia article "Beagle" and in Wikimedia Commons. However, if you search for this file in Wikimedia Commons and look at the links ascribed to it all links point to within Wikimedia Commons.

Is there any way to find out in what Wikipedia articles a particular image is used? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 17:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The links section only shows links from pages here on Commons. Use the "check usage" tab at the top of the page to get a list of where an image is used on all the Wikimedia projects. This tool is located on a separate server, so it doesn't work perfectly all the time, but it should be fairly obvious if it's broken or if its database is outdated. LX (talk, contribs) 17:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Iron maiden background

i put alot of effort in to making this iron maiden back ground with a bit of can i play with madness, the clairvoyant, the evil that men do and a real live dead one and i can't fidure out the lisence i did it by my self but used snippets of album covers Gattcat0 07:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC) by the way you can check it out on my myspace all that myspace address stuff /supergrover2220 Gattcat0 07:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You may not upload works based on non-free, copyrighted works such as album covers. See Commons:Derivative works. LX (talk, contribs) 07:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Godfrey Hounsfield image from National Library of Medicine (NLM)

Hi. Is this image [5] OK to add? It's from the Visible Proofs gallery on the United States National Library of Medicine (NLM) website (image web page URL [6], image URL [7], copyright information [8]). The caption on the image says National Library of Medicine rather than a third party so I'm assuming it's theirs (and thus public domain) but I'm not 100% sure. Thanks. AntHolnes 13:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Well first off the proper template to use for NIH images is: {{PD-USGov-NIH}} . As for the specific image, it looks like it is safe to me. The image caption on the image said it was NLM. Though you can always email the NIH/NLM as the template suggests and double check. Thanks. --ShakataGaNai Talk 15:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. AntHolnes 22:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Canal Icon Images uploaded from en:Wikipedia

The UK Waterways project have uploaded most of the remaining icons for canal mapping from en:Wilipedia to Commons. However, two failed. (Image:BSicon_uxKRZun.svg and Image:BSicon_ugKRZun.svg). Commons says it does not have copies of either of these files, but when I try to upload them, either directly or using Commons helper, it says they are corrupt or have an invalid file extension. The files are direct copies of those on en:Wikipedia, and 50 others transferred correctly. Any suggestions? Bob1960evens 21:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

According to Firefox (v2 & v3), those two files are corrupted (on en.wp). When I try to bring up the full version ex here. I get the following error "XML Parsing Error: prefix not bound to a namespace". I can bring up any of the other images you uploaded on commons and they are properly rendered. --ShakataGaNai Talk 05:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


Hello. By accident I placed {{subst:welcome}} on the user's User page instead of the Talk page. Can somebody delete it? Thanks --Kimse 00:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Why not just blank the page... -mattbuck (Talk) 00:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done I blanked it. But in the future you might as well. It is no big deal. --ShakataGaNai Talk 05:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Ha! Well, thank you ShakataGaNai. The reason why I wanted it to be deleted is that I didn't want it to appear in the user page's history, so the name would still be in an untouched red color instead of blue. Is it still possible? --Kimse 05:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done You are welcome. I had an admin delete the page. But for the future I wouldn't worry about it too much. --ShakataGaNai Talk 05:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Video file

Hello I just uploaded this video file Image:Bears_fight_2.wmv.OGG. It plays fine, but still image is not there. Could somebody, please, tell me why. Thank you.--Mbz1 02:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Well in firefox when text is rendered where the image is supposed to be - it means the image is corrupted. Is it possible the the first frame of this video was corrupted in such a way that commons couldn't generate a preview for it? --ShakataGaNai Talk 05:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the response. I doubt that the first frame was corrupted. The thing is that I did ooe ,more video Image:Bears fight 11.wmv.OGG from absolutely different part of my tape. It has the same problem.--Mbz1 12:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I know what the problem is. So it is ✓ Done. Thank you.--Mbz1 14:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Adding catagories

I noticed that there is a huge list of things that are uncatergorized and I would like to help by putting as many as I can into catorgories. I think I know how to do it but I just wanted to make sure. I think that I do it by pressing edit and then at the bottom of the description it says uncatorgorized in brackets and I add the name of the catorgory for each one in there. Is this right? How long will it take to be removed from the uncatorgorized list? How many catagories should I put for each one?

The first one on the list is a former lady wrestler and glamour model so should I put it under wrestlers and glamour model? I had a quick go and tried doing that but glamour model was in red and it said that that catagory didnt exist so i deleted that catagory description so it was just under wrestler. If it says that the catagory doesnt exist should I change the catagory or not?

Sorry for all the questions. I hope someone can help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 18:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

If you register a account you can use Hotcat, a very easy tool for you to remove, add and modify categories with. When you've put 1 category one a image, you can remove the "uncategorized" template. If their is anything then don't hesitate to ask! --Kanonkas(talk) 18:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
There is a Category:Models (people). Perhaps there is a suitable subcategory there. Otherwise you could always create one. Note that category names are normally plural (since we expect there to be more than one file in a category). It's usually helpful to search for categories that one has in mind before trying to add them.
Each file should be placed in as many applicable and specific categories as possible (don't put images in categories that are parent or "ancestor" categories of another category that the image is already in; for example, don't place a map of England in both Category:Maps of England and Category:England). I assume most wrestlers are not models and most models are not wrestlers, so such categories should be independent of one another, meaning it should be fine to add an image to both.
For more information, see Commons:First steps/Sorting and Commons:Categories. LX (talk, contribs) 19:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


I think that this photo may not be encyclopedic Image:Jardin zoologique du Québec - serre 02 - 2006-02.JPG and it is out of focus. Should it be deleted? Snowmanradio 10:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

We don't really go by "encyclopediac" here... see our scope for more info. Since it's in use, I'd see no reason to delete it, personally. giggy (:O) 11:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


I'm not that familiar with Commons' policies, so can someone explain to me why there is a limit to the number of photos I can upload? I'm in the middle of uploading several hundred photos and would like to continue asap. Thanks. AgnosticPreachersKid 00:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

There isn't a upload limit. And you're not technically uploading anything. Flickr upload bot is. (P.S. Please check for images already on Commons and please categorize. Thanks!) Rocket000 01:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm getting this message: "You have reached your upload limit. You can request an exemption to Username (space for username)." AgnosticPreachersKid 02:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
From the linked page: " Uploading is performed via a web interface that runs on the Toolserver. The current upload limit is 24 uploads per user per hour. " So either request an exception, or wait. If you know you haven't hit that number - then you might want to contact the author as their could be a bug. --ShakataGaNai Talk 06:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Where do I request an exception? AgnosticPreachersKid 12:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
At my talk page. I'm going to bed now, so please post on my talk so I don't forget. -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
You can also upload image manually, but remember that on Commons quality is more important than quantity. Superm401 - Talk 21:30, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

My pictures were all deleted

Hello, just wondering what I can do about this situation. ALL of my pictures were deleted because they were all "copyrighted". The thing is, one of the photos was one that I actually took while the other is one from a HS website. It actually was a school logo and there was nothing on it to show that it was copyrighted. Now, in order to use the jpeg, would I need an email from the webmaster then? I didn't expect all of my pictures to be deleted so I want to know what I need to do to make sure this doesnt happen again. Thank you very much. Tccommons 06:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You say "All" of your photos but only refer to two images in your above statement. How many were deleted? Also, it is fairly safe to assume that any logo for any organization is Copyright - even if it is your school. Even if their license allows you to use it - the license may not be "free enough" for commons. Additionally - if you uploaded several photos that were copyright and one or two that you took - more than likely those that you took didn't get noticed - and it was assumed that all of your images were copyright violations. You may feel free to re-upload the images you took though. Or you can file an Undeletion request. --ShakataGaNai Talk 06:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't need to says "Copyrighted" or "©" to be copyrighted. All images are copyrighted as soon as they're made, with rare exceptions (like U.S. gov. works). That means Commons requires an explicit license. Thus, your school logo should have been deleted. As noted, you can re-upload the image you took yourself. Please be clear that you did take it, and note when and where. Superm401 - Talk 21:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Old photographs

Hi, I was wondering what the copyright status would be for images such as this of and, it is available on several websites I have come accross whilst looking for references and info for these two articles. As the photograh would have been taken prior to 1897, and copyright is not claimed anywhere, would this mean it is exempt from copyright? Thanks Thaf 22:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I would expect that PD-old would apply, but I'm unsure. email the BBC and ask? -mattbuck (Talk) 23:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

static image for video

This video of penguines Image:Pygoscelis antarctica trying to get to iceberg.wmv.OGG only appears as its name in text and not with a static image. Can it be fixed? Snowmanradio 08:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Links to Wikipedia

1. How do I place a category on an image in Wikimedia Commons so that it shows in a category in Wikipedia ? I’m looking for a way other than using the generic note in Wikipedia that there are images in available in Wiki Commons.
2. How do I format the info in the summary of an image so that it links to Wikipedia content? For example, I placed the name of the building on the summary description of an image but would like to create a link to the article of that building in Wikipedia so that the reader can learn more about the building if they desire. In Wikipedia, they are called wikilinks to other articles.

Thanks! FieldMarine 19:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. In answer to your first question, I don't think there's a good way to do that, though you could add a category to the image's page on wikipedia. To the second one, the best way to link to wikipedia is by using {{w|page on to link to|link text}}. Hope this helps. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! FieldMarine 22:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


Can images such as this be copyrighted? Lavivier 12:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It depends on the country whether copyright can be claimed on a photograph of an old 2D artwork. In the US, no; in the UK, yes. I'm not sure about Iran though. See Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag. In many countries there may be problems that the photo is not simply of a 2D artwork, as you can see the binding of the book etc. The 3D elements would be better cropped out anyway, to create images of the two pages separately. --MichaelMaggs 21:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Lavivier 00:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Quiero subir una foto de la Banda Sinfónica de Colmenar Viejo y tengo los derechos de la misma, ¿como lo indico en la imagen para que no haya problemas con la licencia y no me la quiten? Gracias —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nashete (talk • contribs) 17:08, 2008 May 27 (UTC) (UTC)

Puedes decir esa misma cosa en la página de la imagen. Sin embargo, antes de subirla, lee las instrucciones en {{Image permission/es}} y háganlas. Además: si tienes preguntas en castellano, favor de usar Commons:Café. Esa página es específicamente para las cuestiones en español; ésta es para las en inglés. Patstuart (talk) 16:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Single User LogIn


I would like to enable SUL from the german Wikipedia. Now I realised, that I have made an mistake early in working here. I have created 2 seperate accounts (User:PatDi and User:PatDin). Is it possible to merge both accounts to User:PatDi? Otherwise I am going to merge only PatDi with all other Wikis, and the 3 edits with PatDin will be lost. Thanks for helping, --PatDi 19:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

it seems to be complicate, so I will not wait for it. I try to merge now all my user names. Thanks--PatDi 19:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Upload an image from US Wikipedia to French Wikipedia


I would like to use this image on the french Wikipedia

The copyright on wikipedia says: The two-dimensional work of art depicted in this image is in the public domain in the United States and in those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years. Under American copyright law, originality of expression is necessary for copyright protection, and a mere photograph of an out-of-copyright work may not be protected under American copyright law.

Can you tell me how I can use this image and what should I do? There are no equivalent image equivalent on Wikipedia Thank you in advance --User:Zheim

The solution is to transfer the image to Commons (here) so that all Wikimedia sites may use it. I've done that, so the image should work on the French Wikipedia now. --O (висчвын) 00:35, 29 May 2008 (GMT)

Unused account

Hi, I would like to use a unified account, and I do own the same user name in both Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons (urashimataro). The problem is that I forgot the password to the Wikimedia Commons one, and I didn't give an email address. So that user account is 100% unused, while I use another Commons account (tarourashima). I would like to solve this situation, get rid of tarourashima and just use urashimataro for all projects. Can it be done? I am sure it can. but don't know what to do. Thanks. Tarourashima 00:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Please use Commons:Changing username/usurp requests. --EugeneZelenko 15:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Upload Form

Is there any chance to not use the Upload Form?

I have several templates that I always use, including copyright statements, descriptions, categories and the like. I would not like to fill in the upload form for any single image, so basically: can I use the old form somewhere?

With kind regards --SoylentGreen 14:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

You could use Special:Upload. --EugeneZelenko 16:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
This is the new form, that I would like not to use. Or is there something in my preferences I can change to get the old upload form back? --SoylentGreen 16:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
You can use this one. --rimshottalk 19:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Read the documentation. You can configure it such that it uses the old layout for you. Lupo 19:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the help! This works quite well. --SoylentGreen 05:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
It did not work for me, however all I did was paste that one line into a new file and save it. Is there more too it? -- carol (tomes) 05:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
The bookmark works though. -- carol (tomes) 06:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Force a reload (shift-reload on Firefox, crtl-reload on IE). Lupo 06:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I tried that. Is it because I am not using monobook skin? (heh) -- carol (tomes) 06:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
What are you using? Lupo 08:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Classic. It is also a pain because the Permission attribute for the template is not included in the dialog any longer. I upload from other wiki (without a bot) and elsewhere quite often so it is often easier to paste the license that was used or personally educational to find the license that should be used. -- carol (tomes) 08:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Place the configuration code into your standard.js and shift-reload or ctrl-reload. Monobook.js is only for monobook, other skins have their own user scripts. And I just checked, the "Permission" field is present also in the Classic skin. At least it is for me. Lupo 09:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I thank you very much for this information! It saved me some research time and also some time thinking about how I need to do the research.... -- carol (tomes) 12:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for [the link. I was going to ask. I like the new form in many ways, but sometimes I upload a series of photos (either several I took at the same place or event, or a series by the same Flickr user) that need only a minor change in wording in one place between images, making copy and pasting easier than rewriting different fields each time. The new form didn't allow that (eg, if the license and author was already in the description section, I couldn't upload because the seperate author and license tabs were blank). Good to know there is a way around it. Possibly there should be a tab somewhere making this method of uploading less obscure? -- Infrogmation 13:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
There is now a gadget in your Special:Preferences to use the old form layout. Lupo 06:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

How to delete a page I created?

How can I delete a page I created?

I wanted to put the picture up on the Commons so that I could use it in one of my Wikipedia articles. It unfortunately did not give me the result I wanted and now, I would rather take the picture off. It seems very complicated to just delete a page I created my self.

What should I do? Ebcl2 16:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

  • To delete an image, simply click on "Nominate for deletion" on the left side of the page under "Toolbox". I've done this for you in this case. Also, for future reference, please don't blank the pages. --ShakataGaNai Talk 23:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Screen capture from a History program on television

I would like to upload this image on Wikipedia [9].
This is a very low resolution screen capture from a television program about ethiopian history, the image was found on a blog on teh internet.
I have seen that this kingd of image has already been uploaded here, like this one :[10] for instance.
Can you tell me if it is possible for me to do the same given that:
- the name of the channel is given on the picture
- this is a very low resolution image
- no equivalent free-content is available
By the way I can't find the above mentionned licence "non free fair use" can you tell me how to do the same if needed?
For information I konw the name of the program and author ("Fascist Legacy" by Ken Kirby, BBC production) it can be precised if needed
Thank you in advance
-- Zheim 18:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately you cannot upload that image on to commons, as commons only accepts free work (being part of a TV show & having a copyright logo make it non-free). You can upload it onto the language wikipedia of your choice under the "Fair Use" rationale. --ShakataGaNai Talk 23:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
ok thank you Zheim 23:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


I dont get want the problem is with the image as i filled in what it asked me two and as i created it myself there shouldnt be a problem. Please reply --— Preceding unsigned comment added by MCMXC (talk • contribs) 2008-05-29 (UTC)

Which image and what problem? If you mean Image:Manchester Derby Graph.jpg the problem is that you did not add a license when you uploaded the file. You can read about the license requirements here. --ShakataGaNai Talk 22:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Ich möchte ein selbst geschossenens Foto einstellen und bekomme immer die Rückmeldung, dass es Probleme mit der licence gibt. Was genau muss ich eingeben, damit die Lizenzfrage geklärt ist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stürmer (talk • contribs) 06:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Geht es um Image:Limes-Bau-08-04-23-300.gif? Die Lizenzangabe an sich war schon in Ordnung. Ich nehme an, EugeneZelenko bezweifelt, dass du das Bild selbst gemacht hast. Den Verdacht kann man schon bekommen, weil das Bild aussieht wie von einer Webseite kopiert. Hast du keine Version mit hoeherer Aufloesung und ohne Rahmen? --rimshottalk 21:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

photo help

I created a page for a friend. I uploaded an image i took on wikipedia, apparently I didn't do it correctly and there was a note posted saying that it was up for deletion. I just uploaded another photo i took of him and i think i did i properly this time. However I accidentally gave the image the same name as the first one. Now his page has no photo, and I am not sure why?? I am also wondering how i can delete the first image? THanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solpixie (talk • contribs) 07:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The image is located here or on one of the many wikipedia? -- carol (tomes) 07:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
You only have a single image uploaded on Commons. It is not currently tagged for deletion and you have no previously deleted contributions on Commons. See Commons:Deletion guidelines for different applicable reasons and methods for requesting deletion. For problems with a Wikipedia project, you'll probably get more help if you ask at that particular project instead. LX (talk, contribs) 21:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Derivative work

What should I do if I want to use a cropped version from a free Flickr image? Should I upload the full version using Flickr Upload Bot, and then upload another cropped version with another filename (link to full version file), or upload cropped version overwrite full version, or just upload cropped version and give the original link to Flickr image? Vinhtantran 00:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The third option. Crop it and upload it, and give the link to the full image as the source (with a note that you've cropped it). Make sure it's a Commons-friendly image per Commons:Flickr images though! giggy (:O) 00:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Should I put {{flickrreview}} to this page too? For sure that I'm working on truly free license (in case the license changes over time)? Vinhtantran 00:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, upload it as a flickr image using flinfo and stuff. -mattbuck (Talk) 14:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


Does this image have an appropriate license? I used that one after seeing Image:Barack Obama signature.svg. J.delanoygabsadds 02:14, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's fine. You may want to convert it to .svg, or tag it for that. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 13:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)