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Need to know how to specify a permission.

Can you point me toward the page that describes how I specify that I have permission from the owner of a photo to upload it for free use on Wikipedia? Thank you. Keyboardica (talk) 10:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. I don't actually need an introductory tutorial, though. My question refers to the most recent article I wrote. I uploaded two pictures which I have permission to use. However, I haven't properly credited that permission because I don't know how to do it on Wikipedia. I can't seem to find the specific case for when the person who owns the picture isn't the one who took it (eg, they hired a professional photographer and paid them for taking the pictures). I'm not sure how to properly do this, and the pictures will be deleted in a few days if I don't get it right. If you could point me toward the FAQ or page that specifically deals with that case, that would be great. Thanks! Keyboardica (talk) 11:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Please see Commons:Email templates and Commons:OTRS. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Questions about logos and licensing

Okay, two questions. First, if an image on Flickr is released under CC 2.0 BY, does that mean that they have to be attributed on every Wikipeida, Wikibooks, etc. page it's used on, or just the image description age? Second, I was wondering if this image is technically available under a CC license because it pictures a flag that has the copyrighted University of Chicago logo on it. Thanks DroEsperanto (talk) 23:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Being attributed on the image description page is enough; you don't have to put it in each caption. In the image, the use of the logo is considered de minimis and so it would not be restricted by the logo's copyright. --Yarnalgo (talk) 02:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Excellent, thank you very much! DroEsperanto (talk)

Reference Cite In Wrong Positions

Hello, the reference cite for the second images on both the Tony Hawk and John Robert Colombo wikipedia pages is on the far left page while the images is on the right.

Also on the John Robert Colombo page, on his list of humour books there is a line above the list. this should be removed because it makes the table of contents list humour as a seperarte section. Thanks. Please help. 01:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

For Tony Hawk, the caption is saying he is on the left in the picture not that the picture is on the left of the page. I fixed the John Robert Colombo thing but in the future you should ask questions about Wikipedia on Wikipedia not Commons. --Yarnalgo (talk) 02:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello, i want to upload 2 pictures from the german Wikipedia (This here and this), but i don´t know, what kind of a license i have to take. The pictures are press material and so i think it wouldn´t be a problem if they are on Commons. David Sallaberger (talk) 11:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

You shouldn't upload them on Commons. These logos are artistic designs, therefore covered by copyright. Sv1xv (talk) 11:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
And what if i want to put them on several wikipedias in several languages? Do i have to upload them in every wiki? Or is this not allowed? David Sallaberger (talk) 11:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you must upload them locally, if the specific rules of each wiki allow it. Sv1xv (talk) 11:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

License migration deadline

While I am doing license migration in ko:wp, I found problematic file, ko:File:134nopodong2.jpg. Original upload date is before August 1, but re-upload date is after August 1. What should I do? --Kwj2772 (msg) 13:53, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Revert to older version (higher resolution) and migrate it. Multichill (talk) 14:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
And transfer it to Commons :-) --MGA73 (talk) 14:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I uploaded three logos of my organization and they were deleted. It's my first time to use the commons and to post in wikipedia. What should i do for proper posting and uploading of logos? Thanks in advance!

Logos which contain artwork are covered by copyright and are not allowed on Commons. Only a few logos with plain text and simple geometric shapes can be uploaded here. Sv1xv (talk) 20:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

So do i upload them in wikipedia? janixpacle

If there is an article about this organization, you may upload the current logo on Wikipedia for use specifically in that article and add a "Fair use rationale" explaining why this logo is useful for the article. Normally a non-free logo is allowed only in the article about the organization (for identification), but not in other related articles as decoration. Sv1xv (talk) 20:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
See Non-free content criteria. --Teratornis (talk) 19:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not sure the best method to upload a logo that the company has publicly said can be used in this case the company says the logo can be used, I'm not sure if it should be in commons or directly uploaded to the Great Clips page. Any suggestions? Crobray (talk) 15:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Look at other examples in Category:Logos to see how they are licensed. To my non-attorney eyes, the Great Clips logo does not appear to use any copyrightable artistic elements, it's just a short string of letters in an ordinary font. See COM:CB#Trademarks. To be on the safe side you could contact the Great Clips company and ask them if they are comfortable with having you upload their logo to Commons. You could document their permission, if they grant it, by following the procedure in COM:OTRS. --Teratornis (talk) 20:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

A question in Spanish

Quiero poner algunas fotos en wikimedia commons, son fotos que he tomado a transporte público, gente arquitectura de la ciudad etc. pero no se si se pueda, no se las restricciones que esto tenga si pongo por ejm. una chiva y sale el nombre de la empresa, la placa etc. se puede? así yo haya tomado la foto es un elemento que no me pertenece etc. me gustaría saber información sobre esto gracias — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 16:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Google translation to English: I put some photos on wikimedia commons, are photos I've taken public transportation, city architecture people and so on. but not if you can, no restrictions if I put this to have by ejm. a goat and leaves the name of the company, the board and so on. ok? so I took the photo is an item that is not mine and so on. I want to know about this thanks
You wrote your question while not logged in, and only registered users can upload photos, so we cannot see the photos you uploaded. What is your username on Commons? The Google translation of your question is not the best, so I am not sure what you asking. You may be asking about taking photos in a public place which incidentally include possibly copyrighted works. See COM:CB, COM:FOP, COM:DM, and the other links under COM:EIC#Copyright. Could a Help desk volunteer who speaks Spanish (I think) answer the question? --Teratornis (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

SC Ribbon

Can someone please update over SC ribbon bar.png, the other ribbons on wikipedia using the same colours have already been updated since they are not on Commons and this one no longer matches.

Dr. Stantz (talk) 22:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. In the future, you can click the link that says "Upload a new version of this file" at the bottom of the image description page. DroEsperanto (talk) 02:01, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
It says I am to new, and to get someone at the Help desk to do it. Dr. Stantz (talk) 23:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

someone else's picture via email

Hi. I want to put a picture of a person inside her own article and i've got a photo of her trough email. how can i get it a license in Commons?Bbadree (talk) 01:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. --Teratornis (talk) 19:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


I am totally frustrated. I have been editing and enjoying Wikipedia for about two years now.

However, I am not able to place a picture on an entry. I have spent 2 full hours trying to place a picture on a wikipedia page. I have followed every direction exactly as it is explained.

Do you first upload the picture to the Wikipedia Commons? Then, when you write "[[image:" what do you write next? Do you write original file name of the picture? Do you write the title at the top of the Commons entry page? Or do you write the new title that is in the entry of the picture (it added _'s between each word in the title in one Commons file I created.)

As you can see, I am very confused and very frustrated.

Thank you.

Jim Harwell

Fred Russell and Grantland Rice (1951)
Try this. -- User:Docu at 04:51, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
And see Picture tutorial. More information is at WP:EIW. --Teratornis (talk) 19:51, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I think I may have accidentally deleted someone

I am new and feeling like I have a very low IQ at the moment. I am finding this site SO complicated to find things and I have been making more errors than I want to admit. I don't think you have enough room here for all the questions I have about what to do, to not break more rules, but my main concern now... is that I think I deleted someones page and I can't find a way to contact them and tell them it was an accident as I had a question about what they deleted of mine. I don't want them to think it was retaliation. The page in question is: User talk:Foroa/archive 2009 I was trying to see if they had "moved" something of mine and so I hit the move button on their page and I think I moved or REmoved it, but I am SOOOOOO illiterate here, I can't tell. If someone more educated here could let her/him know to check and if it is deleted, PLEASE tell me how to undo it, I would be very grateful. I am so afraid because of all my unintentional screw ups, I am just going to get myself deleted. I think I have already been "banned" from a couple of spots through accidental rule infringements. Thank you for your help...whoever you may be. This site had to have been designed by Einstein, because this computer idiot is lost.--Jackie ohlsen (talk) 12:49, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, you haven't deleted anything. The page User talk:Foroa/archive 2009 is still there, and only administrators have the technical ability to delete a page. If you are new to Commons, you may find Commons:First steps useful. Otherwise, don't hesitate to ask for help here! Pruneautalk 13:02, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
And see: User:Teratornis/Why is Commons so complicated? --Teratornis (talk) 19:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


Hello, i have uploaded a few images of rockmusicians taken by me. I used them already on the dutch wikipedia. For instance my picture of Tjeerd Bomhof, singer of the Dutch band Voicst link I made an article about him on the Dutch wikipedia and included this picture. link. It worked all perfectly well. But when I search on Commons for "Tjeerd Bomhof" there are no results. How come? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lubberink (talk • contribs) 14:36, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The servers may be slow at re-indexing. Your image should be searchable when the servers catch up. --Teratornis (talk) 19:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

misspelled category

The category "Ctenolophon parviflorus" is a misspelling, but apparently i can not edit the page. The correct spelling can be found at as well as many other sites. 23:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

See Commons:Rename a category. --Teratornis (talk) 05:06, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Public domain types

How come there's an "I found the file on Google or a random website" part in the "Public Domain" copyright category if all files put in that part of that category are deleted without further notice? Squibbon (talk) 17:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

You would have to ask the person(s) who added that option to the upload form. You might be able to identify those people starting from Commons:Redesigning the upload form. I would guess they added it because some users don't read the instructions and therefore try to upload images they found on the Web which are not free content. Most images that appear in a Google search or a random Web site are not free. If no such option appeared on the upload form, users who don't read instructions might select an incorrect license that appears to be legitimate, making copyright violations harder for competent users to detect. --Teratornis (talk) 20:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, most copyright violations are done out of ignorance. This is just a "trap" to catch some of those images. --J.smith (talk) 01:32, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Public Property is not subject to copyright?

I would like to upload two pictures from the Illinois State Archive web-page. One is of the building that houses the archives and one is of the archive buildings namesake. I understood that since they are public property this would mean they are open for public usage and not subject to copyright. Is this true? If it is what tag do I use to indicate this?

Thank you.

Taking your own pictures of the building would be fine, but the ones that the Illinois State Archives own are likley under copyright protection by the state of Illinois. --J.smith (talk) 01:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

File does not show the image.

What have I done? I have created , with image uploaded apparently correctly. Everything about the file is as I would expect except for the image; instead of showing the image, the file provides a link to USS_Hetzel.tif‎. That is the correct image, but the user has to follow the link to see it. Is the problem the underbar in the name of the image? If so, what can I do about it? For that matter, what can I do about it, whatever the reason? Pkkphysicist (talk) 23:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia does support the upload of tif files, but the wikimedia servers doesn't show the images, they are only here so more people could work on them and share them on Wikimedia Commons.
When you want a image to show you should use a .jpg, .gif or .png extension, those image will be shown inside articles.
Best regards,
Huib talk 23:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I will redo it as a .jpg file. Pkkphysicist (talk) 14:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome :) Huib talk 14:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Commons category links from Wikipedia

A category I created (Allerheiligen Hofkirche, Munich) was recently deleted and replaced with Category:All_Saints_court_church_(Munich). I don't care about the name; but now the links from the German and English Wikipedias lead to this unhelpful page: [1]. Is there any way to prevent categories linked from other projects from being simply deleted? N p holmes (talk) 08:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

No. Also interwikis between Wikipedia articles can change - but updated by bots very frequently - the content on Commons can change too only the bot suport to maintain links to Commons (using templates Commons and Commonscat on wp) is not much. In cases a very common name in one language is moved to a common name in english a soft category redirect ({{seecat|All_Saints_court_church_(Munich}}) can left behind. Please update the links on Wikipedia by hand. --Martin H. (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

problems with non conform previews, thumbs (or "aperçus" in French)

the previews, thumbs (or "aperçus" in French) of the files

  • CayleyCatalan.png
  • Neveu.png

are not conform to their original files, but inexistant or conform to a previous erroneous version of the file. How is it possible to obtain a more up to date thumb or preview, knowing that the original file is now OK (and has uploaded twice without effect on the auld preview or thumb, whatever) but its preview is not updated, seemingly. Chassaing (talk) 14:32, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Purging the page seems to have done the trick. Pruneautalk 14:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks !! Chassaing (talk) 18:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Audio Upload

I have an old recording from 1940 of a man talking about his experience in pre-war Germany. I'm currently creating a Wikipedia page on him and would like to post this audio (about 24 seconds long) on Wikimedia. The recording was aired on the BBC and is still posted on their web-site.

My questions are: #1. Is this the appropriate place to upload audio? The commons? The upload page seems to be geared toward images only. #2. Am I correct in thinking that the BBC owns the copyright to the audio recording even though I have permission from the family of the man speaking, and I have the original recording - I'm going to have to obtain some sort of license from BBC in order to use it?

Any general guidance in this area would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Etrangere (talk) 17:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Follow the procedure in COM:OTRS to document permission from the BBC, if they will provide it. I'd assume the BBC owns the copyright unless you can prove otherwise. Commons accepts audio files, for some examples see: Category:Audio files. See Commons:Media help which is about playing audio files. See the links under COM:EIC#Copyright and COM:EIC#Media for more information. I've never uploaded an audio file here, so that's all I've got. --Teratornis (talk) 20:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Valid licence

I uploaded some pictures yesterday and was informed taht there is no valid license. But as i stated these pictures are US Navy made and I understand that they are free to use, so what do I need to do now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Submriner (talk • contribs) 09:38, 5. Sep. 2009 (UTC)

I checked all your images, added available date and author information and corrected the licence. There was no template ({{PD-USGov-Military-Navy}}) included. That is the reason why a bot tagged your image with {{no licence}}.
Is there any page where the description for USS Grayback (SSG-574) building attack.jpg can be found?
--D-Kuru (talk) 12:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, really thank you for your help. The description is on I will try to add it myself --Submriner (talk) 10:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Website screenshots

Is it tolerable to upload screenshots of websites if all these conditions are met?

  • All images are censored.
  • Only short word constellations that make up the layout are visible. The main content, slogans or any substantial/copyrightable text is not visible.
  • The website was rendered with a browser that is free software.
  • The only visible parts of the browser are inside the rendered page, such as inputfields, radiobuttons, submit buttons.
  • The screenshot fulfills the sole purpose to illustrate what an article on Wikipedia describes (maybe as an example), which may necessitate making the depicted site recognisable.

If so, which category should it be uploaded in? Although it technically is a free software screenshot, it is first and foremost showing a website, which is the only intention.

If not, what are the conditions? Do you want to see my screenshot for yourselves? aNordal, 14:42 UTC, 5 September 2009

The most reliable method would be to show your redacted screenshot to the copyright owner, ask them if they will release that redacted version under a free license, and then document their written permission by following the instructions in COM:OTRS. The copyright owner is ultimately the party which decides whether to complain that their copyright has been violated, so they can judge better than us whether you have redacted enough. Otherwise it would be difficult to guess whether you have redacted enough to avoid creating a derivative work. --Teratornis (talk) 20:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

USS Sterlet (SS-392)

How do I get the photo I just uploaded to Commons over to the USS Sterlet (SS-392) Page to replace the No Photo Available place holder?

OK, I added the photo to the article. However I am not happy with the copyright templates used for this image (unless of course you took the photo yourself). If it is a US Navy image, then it should be tagged with {{PD-USGov-Military-Navy}}. If the photo was taken by a journalist or a private individual, then we do have a problem with its copyright. Sv1xv (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

how do i link a wikipedia file to a commons file when editing

i would like to upload an image (portrait) from commons to a Wikipedia website (biography) - i've been trying for a while and get the title but no image/link (the image is garland Robinette 2008.jpg)

See Wikipedia:Picture tutorial, use the text [[File:Garland robinette 2008.jpg|thumb|description]] at the beginning of the Wikipedia article (below the problem tags, above the text). "thumb" is the parameter making the image a default thumbnail, "description" will appear as a description of the image. --Martin H. (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
p.s.: embedding images in articles is 100% case sensitive, the name of the file is File:Garland robinette 2008.jpg - not File:garland Robinette 2008.jpg as you said above. Maybe this was already the whole problem ;) --Martin H. (talk) 20:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

thank you - i'll give that a try! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Britbone (talk • contribs) 20:56, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Afghanistan

Hello! Please help me choose the correct license for the arms of Afghanistan that they have not already:

Master Shadow (talk) 05:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Afghanistan has no copyright law (see COM:L). If the images were published outside Afghanistan and the artists did not release them under a free license, they cannot be uploaded here. If they were published in Afghanistan, they are {{PD-Afghanistan}}. Sv1xv (talk) 06:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Misspelled category name

I created the category Books by Friedrich Nietsche, and then I noticed that the letter z is missing from Nietzsche. How can this be corrected?

By the way, why is the category Category:Books by Friedrich Nietsche not displayed on the screen, neither in red nor in blue, when I make a link to it here? --Jonund (talk) 21:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

See Commons:Rename a category. To display a link to a category inline, put a : character before the Category: namespace prefix. I fixed the category link in your question - you had actually categorized the Help desk into that category. See Help:Category. The same colon-prefix rule works for displaying links to files inline rather than displaying the files themselves. For example File:Mexican Petroleum Production.PNG. And interlanguage links: en:Help:Category. --Teratornis (talk) 21:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
(editconflict) I renamed the category. In the future, you may make such requests directly at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands -- User:Docu at 21:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! --Jonund (talk) 21:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

How to add GPS information?

Hello, I uploaded [File:Blind Boys of Alabama in Quebec.jpg] and I want to put GPS information on the description page but I don't understand the instructions at Commons:Geocoding. This concert took place at the Place d'Youville in Quebec City (no English article available). Would someone mind inserting the geo info for me? Thank you. LovesMacs (talk) 23:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I added the information by copying and pasting GPS info from another image and changing it as needed. LovesMacs (talk) 03:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

False copyleft claim

What is the appropriate way to report an image with an apparently false claim of a free license – apparently not {{no permission}}, for File:Parthian cataphracts.jpg has been tagged thus for over a month. —teb728 t c 23:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

So your not actually asking a question - your just berating volunteers for not getting work done fast enough to suite you? I see. J.smith (talk) 23:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I think you can ask to have the image deleted by going to COM:DEL and making your case. LovesMacs (talk) 03:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually I was asking a question, and apparently LovesMacs’ reply is the answer. (I didn’t think the problem was the volunteers but rather a broken system. On English Wikipedia {{npd}} results (if valid) in a speedy deletion. Obviously on Commons it is not the way to go with a rather obvious copyright violation.) —teb728 t c 05:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

how do I add a category to a file I have already uploaded?

I have uploaded a number of photos which a bot recently requested I categorize. I know the category, but it is not clear how I add categories to the files. Shabbychef (talk) 03:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

ok, I figured it out: go to the page showing the picture, and try to find an 'edit' button, then add the category code to the very bottom. thanks. Shabbychef (talk) 03:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

See COM:EIC#Cat. You might like Help:Gadget-HotCat. --Teratornis (talk) 04:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


In the past I uploaded many images to Wikipedia with no problems but these days they go to Wiki Commons which asks for categories. Some are easy (when I know them) but others are not easy to place into a category. So, where is a list of categories to choose from and I hope it isn't a page with a few thousand areas to look over because this would be a drawback to uploading images to Wikisource. I uploaded John Mercer Brook's "deep sea sounding device". It is a cannon ball with a hole through it, a metal tube passes theough the cannon ball, the tube contains tallow inside so it can pick up a sea floor core sample that is raised by a line. The cannon ball detaches as it slams into the sea floor and the core sample is hauled up. So, what category should that be placed in? I have no idea. It would be good if those who want these categorized doing that part of the work so as to be exactly as it should be as opposed to many uploading to make a guess and the categories becoming a hodge-podge messy mixture of close but wrong categories. I have the Kosmos medal of Baron Von Humbolt so I ask now what category that would be under. I do transcribe a lot and work with images a lot but I no longer spend hours looking for categories. Instead I just tend no longer to upload images. William Maury Morris (talk) 17:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I search for categories like this:
  • Type some keywords about your image into the search box. Often this finds suitable categories or similar images.
  • If you find similar images, look at the categories they are in.
  • If you find possible categories, see what images and subcategories they contain.
  • Look at Wikipedia articles which are about subjects relating to your image. Look at the other images in these articles. See if any of these images are on Commons, and if so, see what categories they are in.
  • Watch every image you upload, so when other Commons users categorize them, you can become aware of suitable categories that you overlooked.
For example, the file you uploaded: File:Deep Sea Sounding Device wmm.jpg is clearly about Oceanography. Search for oceanography on Commons, which finds Category:Oceanography. That has several subcategories, but none appear to be specifically about oceanographic instrumentation. So you could use Category:Oceanography. Also look at other images in the category, for example File:Nansen Flasche Details.jpg, which is also in Category:Measuring instruments. That category has many subcategories, possibly including some more specific category you could use. --Teratornis (talk) 19:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


I wish to submit a new word. How do I go about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 19:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

See WP:NEO. --Teratornis (talk) 21:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

¿Cómo citar los autores?

Buenos días, tengo duda de cómo citar los autores que aparecen como usuarios cuando ceden los derechos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 15:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

See COM:REUSE (Commons:Reutilización del contenido fuera de Wikimedia). --Teratornis (talk) 21:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Expired copyrights

I want to add an image from a British Government publication which is more than fifty years old and therefore the copyright has expired. Which licence do I use? --Das48 (talk) 18:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Maybe one of these: Commons:Copyright tags#United Kingdom. See also COM:EIC#Ctags. --Teratornis (talk) 01:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I just uploaded my first image to the commons. How do I get it to appear in an article on wikipedia?

Transfering images to wikipedia

I just uploaded my first image to the commons. How do I get it to appear in an article on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zol87 (talk • contribs) 04:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

There is a tutorial at en:Wikipedia:Image tutorial. You refer to the image by its name here, [[File:Anderson-Carlson Building.jpg]]. —teb728 t c 06:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Australia, Canada, NZ, UK federal government images

I'm sorry, I can't find this anywhere. Can I use them?? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna Frodesiak (talk • contribs) 06:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

See Commons:Licensing for details. Text is quite clear. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Renaming categories

Hello wikimedians. I've uploaded images recently but skipped the "category" part. I then tried to upload a new version of the files and noted the category in the description field. I hope I was able to follow the instructions in adding a category in a rightful manner. I later found out that there's already a category made by a wikimedian which my images should've definitely went under - How do I rename or redirect the images to that category? I hope it wouldn't be so complex for me since it's my first time to upload images here in Wikimedia. Your inputs/help would be greatly appreaciated. All the images that I've uploaded are in my talk page. Thanks a lot. Jhbh9 (talk) 07:55, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

You could enable Cat-a-lot and Hot Cat gadgets in Special:Preferences and use these tools. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:09, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Image counter

Where can I see how many images I have uploaded? FunkMonk (talk) 15:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a one-click way to do it. Somebody might have a tool on the toolserver that could do this. You can look at Special:Contributions/FunkMonk and restrict the display to the File: namespace, but I don't see how to persuade MediaWiki to show only your uploads. If you are handy with Unix commands, you could download your contributions in HTML format to a text file or stdout, using wget or curl, and then grep out the <span class="newpage"> tags. It looks like the number of such tags in the HTML output of all your contributions restricted to the File: namespace would be the number of files you have uploaded. See Pipeline (Unix). --Teratornis (talk) 01:15, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Don't know anything about Unix. But odd, I thought it would be a very obvious tool to have here, but as you said, there might be something on the Toolserver, but it doesn't work right now, right? At the very least, it should say how many images you have uploaded wheh you go to your gallery, or the gallery of others. FunkMonk (talk) 10:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Very little in the world of computers works the way I would have done it. I guess other people don't think the way I do. The nice thing about Wikimedia Foundation sites such as Commons is that if you are determined enough, you can sometimes write your own tools to add features you can't believe they left out. --Teratornis (talk) 02:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
You could look at the various edit counters for Wikipedia in WP:EIW. Maybe something also works for Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 02:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Can I Upload Files Even If They Are Not Linked?

For example, I have taken many pictures of some place article about which on wikipedia exist. But I can not add all the images to the article. Can I still upload images related to that article and place?


Raama (talk) 13:51, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure. You could always add link in article to Commons category where you place image. You also may be interested to geocode such photos. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
You can also:
There are many topics on Wikipedia for which more files exist on Commons than can fit in the Wikipedia articles. See for example:
--Teratornis (talk) 20:09, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Screenshot of a purely text-mode proprietary DOS program

I believe that a screenshot of Microsoft's DOS Shell is public domain ({{PD-ineligible}}) because:

  1. the screenshot does not show any icons, graphics, or proprietary user interface elements — the entire user interface is pure ASCII text.
  2. the screenshot does not show any copyrightable textual works, just a pair of filesystem trees.
  3. in the US, software user interfaces in of themselves are not copyrightable — see Supreme Court's interpretation of 17 USC § 102(b) in Lotus Development Corporation v. Borland International, Inc. (1996).

Is my reasoning correct? Can I upload such a screenshot to Commons? —Tetromino (talk) 07:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Better avoid it. Each individual element of the screen is {{PD-text}} or {{PD-ineligible}} but the synthesis of these elements approaches the threshold of originality and creativity. It's too difficult to judge if it passes it. I would not upload it, although I would neither vote to delete it. Sv1xv (talk) 08:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

File fails

File fails to upload or create thumbnail.File was png, than i made it into Jpg than i changed the size but nothing changed.file.First errors were "Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters or PNG file with more than 12.5 million pixels" and all the next are "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again."
It seems to have resolved,itself.Go wikimedia!Megistias (talk) 13:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Want to buy a dump truck

I have noticed the presentation on WIKIMEDIA COMMONS of a Caterpillar 777D rear dump truck which is for sale. As we are interested in potentially buying, we would like information such as : availability, technical spesification, hours worked, price, number of trucks avaiable and site for inspection purposes.

Please send above information to; (email address removed to prevent spammers from seeing it easily) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 09:54, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons is an archive of free content; Wikimedia Commons is not a vendor for the many commercial products depicted here (for example, we do not sell aircraft carriers either). To get information about Caterpillar Inc. products, contact the company. --Teratornis (talk) 19:49, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Teratornis, I'd like to buy that Aircraft carrier... I'll give ya fiddy bucks. J.smith (talk) 16:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Will that be with or without its aircraft complement? And do you want conventional munitions, or nuclear? Have your people call my people. --Teratornis (talk) 19:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Documenting permission from the owner

I am so confused, I don't even know how to ask a question. I have uploaded a few images to commons, but this last one needed permission from the owner of the piece, which I emailed with a copy of the image to the email that was listed when I put the image on. Now the Nikbot is saying the image will be deleted in so many days .... I can't look for the answer because I don't know what to do!Calnut (talk) 14:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't know what happened to my last question. Here is the file: File:Arie F. den Boer, Fred Edmunds, and Victor A Tiedjens.jpg. What do I need to do to make this legit? Can't tell from the Nikbot that I received. How do I get back to this to see what response I get? Calnut (talk) 14:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Did you follow the procedure in COM:OTRS for File:Arie F. den Boer, Fred Edmunds, and Victor A Tiedjens.jpg? --Teratornis (talk) 20:13, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I first fixed the description page, you should use the template {{Information}} with saying "Description= ..." "Source= ...", not replacing the parameter names Description, Source, Date, Author, Permission with their values. The Information from NickBot comes because you not specified a license. Every image must have a license given from the copyright holder. Please ask the copyright holder for a free license or select the applicable license tag from Commons:Copyright tags following the license description or name from the copyright holder. Please make sure that the copyright holder gave you permission to a free license (or something similar) that allow for free reuse by everyone, not only Wikipedia, for every purpose including commercial use and modification. --Martin H. (talk) 20:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Commonist - Upload problem

Hallo, I wanted to upload some pictures through the programme Commonist, but somewhere has to be a bug, see - can you give me a piece of advice, please?? Thank you very much, --Peripatetik (talk) 23:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Only an assumption: Filenames like P8260212.JPG are blocked from MediaWiki:Titleblacklist (the Olympus, Kodak entry), see the corresponding error message MediaWiki:Senselessimagename or the more helpful Template:Titleblacklist-custom-filename. Please select descriptive filenames. --Martin H. (talk) 23:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! Could you please place all my Invalidovna-photos (=all photos from User:Peripatetik yet) to this category? I had to make an other account, because Commonist wasn't able to log me in with my original one. I guess the reason was the Czech diacrics marks in my original nick (User:Jiří Janíček). Could somebody fix this problem as well, or emplace a warning somewhere? Thank you, --Peripatetik (talk)

Categorization of archaeological sites

Hi, I uploaded my first images of some archaeological sites in Syria. I put them in the Category:Archaeological sites in Syria (sorry, for some reason, the link to the category wouldn't work with the square brackets), but I saw that in many cases, each site has its own subcategory. Should I create a new subcategory for each new site and put the images in that category, or just leave them as they are now, in which case the category Archaeological sites in Syria would become rather crowded? Zoeperkoe (talk) 11:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

You can make as many subcategories of Category:Archaeological sites in Syria as you need. See Help:Category and COM:EIC#Cat for general information about categories (including how to display a link to a category without categorizing the current page into it). You might want to keep a list of all the new categories you create, on your user page, like I do here. As to when you should make a subcategory, the number of files it will contain is one consideration. Another is the presence of corresponding articles on one or more of the various language Wikipedias. If a Wikipedia article exists for a particular archaeological site, that is another reason to make a separate category on Commons, so you can link them together. See for example:
--Teratornis (talk) 08:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I already figured out that making subcategories would probably be better, but the links you showed are helpful. Should I always provide a link to commons if it has media on a particular subject, or only if commons has more media than are included in the wikipedia page?
Zoeperkoe (talk) 11:57, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I suggest adding a link to the Commons category from a Wikipedia article whenever the category exists, to tell other users where to categorize their new photos on the subject, and to show other users how to add such links. When a user uploads a new photo, he or she may not know the best categories for it. Many Wikipedia users don't even know about Commons yet - see how many freely licensed photos that people are still uploading to the Wikipedias instead of to Commons where they belong. Since you have an interest in archaeology, you might go around to the existing Wikipedia articles and Commons categories on the subject and add any links that other users have not yet added. For example, I see this pair that do not yet link to each other:
In my experience with editing on the English Wikipedia and Commons, only a fraction of the links we should have are already there. This may partly explain why we get questions on the Help desk here from users who don't know what categories to use for their image uploads - the Wikipedia articles they may have been reading did not effectively advertise the existence of the Commons categories on their subjects. --Teratornis (talk) 19:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Another point: you can make a new subcategory even if you have no images to put in it, as long as you think other users are likely to upload images for it. If you expect a category structure to get filled eventually, it's best to just go ahead and create the category structure, to relieve the next N users of having to puzzle out what to do when they eventually come up with some images to upload. So for example if you know there are some major archaeological sites for which images will eventually accumulate on Commons, just go ahead and complete the category structure even if some categories are initially empty. It's better for someone with knowledge on the subject to create the category structure, to guide later users who may upload photos they took while on random travel (e.g. vacation) without expert knowledge of what they were photographing. We get a lot of that in the wind power photos, so I make a little game of trying to identify the wind turbines in the photos that some users upload without having provided specific details of what they were photographing. Sometimes I can piece it together from the available clues, and sometimes I can't. Also see {{Flickr free}} if you want to search for freely licensed photos on Flickr of archaeological sites which you can then upload to Commons using the {{Flinfo}} tool or the Flickr upload bot (see COM:EIC#Flickr). --Teratornis (talk) 19:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! That can keep me busy for some time ;-)Zoeperkoe (talk) 21:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, the Wikipedia projects are infinite time sinks. Help may be available from other interested users in WikiProject Archaeology. --Teratornis (talk) 23:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

licencing images that have the permission given to use under "GNU Free Documentation License".

I have a number of images I would like to use from the site that have the (c) note given below:

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".

This site I am creating is for use in schools with no commerical value - purely education, so I am assuming I am alright to use these time, but can you tell me what credit or source information I need to put on the site to make sure I act appropriately when using these images please?

Thank you Kathy Jowitt Education Connections

See Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Centering in galleries

How do I get images in galleries to be centered? Beaver, Pennsylvania has seven images, and I'd like to see either a row of three and a row of four, or two rows of two and a row of three, but I can't figure out how to keep it from left alignment. Nyttend (talk) 04:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Normally, the number of images per row is set with the syntax <gallery perrow="4">, but this doesn't seem to work on Commons. Pruneautalk 09:52, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Need help uploading

Is a 54meg image I'd like to get uploaded but for some reason my computer refuses to download the full file. Details can be found here. Raeky (talk) 17:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

The other files in Category:Hubble images are much smaller. Why do you want to upload the large size? --Teratornis (talk) 02:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Because Commons should generally store the highest-resolution images we can, as repository for free content. If someone wants to print an encyclopedia from Wikipedia and use this picture for a full page spread, they're going to need the full image. I've uploaded it as File:hs-2009-25-l-full_jpg.jpg, but, Raeky, you're going to need to fill in the details on the page. (Edit: Aggk. Downloading fine; uploading on my connection killed even casual browsing for close to an hour. Perhaps someone could set up a site to Commons uploader that saved us from downloading and reuploading these files?) --Prosfilaes (talk) 13:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I understand the general reasons for uploading the largest file size. I was asking the user specifically why he or she wants to upload such a large size. Many other users have been happy to upload smaller files from Hubble. If I had this problem, I would have just uploaded a smaller size and linked to the largest size for anyone who wanted to see it. Extremely large file sizes can lead to technical problems with uploading, thumbnailing, crashing users' browsers, etc. I think if someone wants to print a customized version of Wikipedia they can probably look up the original gigantic image size. Perhaps in another five years, our software will handle large images better - but by then even larger images will probably be available to cause problems. --Teratornis (talk) 21:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Best way to get photo taken by other (but agreed to be usable in private) to commons

I've talked to someone that has taken a photo in the US of some game developers at a public reception, and he has, by email, said it's ok to use the image as long as it doesn't personally trace back to him. I want to reduce what work this person would have to do (seeing it an inconvenience to this user) so that I can get the image uploaded to commons. I know his email ok is not sufficient so I want to see what would be the next best step? ORTS? --Masem (talk) 03:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

That's a tough question. I think COM:OTRS depends on being able to identify the creator. Maybe the creator could identify himself via a stable pseudonym. For example, he could create an account on Commons, without revealing his identify, and upload the photo directly. --Teratornis (talk) 21:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Photo renaming

I asked that Mongolia, Sukhbaatar Mormon's temple.JPG be renamed used the following

{{rename|Mongolia, Sukhbaatar, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.jpg| This is a meetinghouse, not a temple. LDS temples have completely different usage compared to meetinghouses. This falls under the #2. correct misleading names into accurate ones" reasons for renaming. Addationally The LDS church has frequently requested that people not use the term “Mormon”, see LDS Newsroom "Style Guide" ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 20:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)}}{{

I figured that was correct. However it was replaced with

  • {{rename needs confirmation|Mongolia, Sukhbaatar, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.jpg| This is a meetinghouse, not a temple. LDS temples have completely different usage compared to meetinghouses. This falls under the #2. correct misleading names into accurate ones" reasons for renaming. Addationally The LDS church has frequently requested that people not use the term “Mormon”, see LDS Newsroom "Style Guide" ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 20:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)}}

I'm not sure what this means and what I should do about it, especially the second item that say "replacing this template with" as that is the same template I used. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARTEST4ECHO (talk • contribs) 16:45, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually the template now on File:Mongolia, Sukhbaatar Mormon's temple.JPG is {{rename needs confirmation}} rather than {{rename}} (so it is not the template you used). There is nothing for you to do other than wait for someone who is qualified to act on the renaming request does so. I wouldn't worry too much about the file name as long as the description is accurate. Image filenames are only visible to editors, not to people who just read the various Wikipedias (who are many times more numerous than editors). Also, I changed the way you displayed the template in your question, to avoid improperly categorizing the Help desk page into Category:Media renaming requests needing confirmation. --Teratornis (talk) 21:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Originally I used the {{Rename}} but BetacommandBot changed it to {{rename needs confirmation}}. I was just trying to understand if I did it wrong. I have never renamed anything. I normally stick to finding citation when articles I enjoy have "citation needed" notes. I'm a much better researcher then writer.

Jalmahal photo from wikitravel

How do I trasfer this image [Image:JalMahal.jpg] uploaded in wikitravel to wikicommons?--Nvvchar (talk) 03:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

See Moving images to the Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 21:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

deleting a file (File:Rubus canescens.JPG)

i wish to delete this (my own) image: Rubus canescens.JPG becouse there is a mistake in the identification. how can i do this? Eitan f (talk) 06:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

If you re-uploaded file under correct name, just place {{Bad name|<new name>}} in old one description. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thank you. and if i want to delete the file all together? Eitan f (talk) 17:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
See COM:DP for the general procedure. Are you saying you cannot correct the mistake in the identification of File:Rubus canescens.JPG? What mistake do you mean? --Teratornis (talk) 21:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
this is not Rubus canescens which has flowers and leaves very similar to Rosa canina. however, i want to check again before i load it up as Rosa canina. Eitan f (talk) 04:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Wiki to Wikimedia

I loaded many photos to Israeli Wiki. How do I transfer them the fastest way to Wikimedia withou any upload again, server to server

Fttxguru (talk) 20:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC) In Israeli wiki my user name is Avibrillant

See Moving images to the Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 21:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


Im not sure where to put this, so ill put it here.

This site offers an incredible range of pictures of art/buildings/nature etc. Soooo...if i wanted to use a pic from there, what do i do? Omegastar19 (talk) 20:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

First you will have to convince them to license their collection freely and to clarify their license terms. The first image page I randomly clicked to says:
  • Copyright © ArtServe 2006
which suggests this is not a repository of free content. If the site asserts copyright over its collection, you should not upload its images here. See Commons:Project scope#Must be freely licensed or public domain and COM:EIC#Free. In the meantime you can find many similar pictures that are free content by searching with {{Flickr free}} and then upload them to Commons with the {{Flinfo}} tool. See COM:EIC#Flickr. Flickr is one of the few photo sharing sites that "gets" free content, although most photos on Flickr are not free. Most other photo sharing sites are rather vague about the license terms of user-contributed content. --Teratornis (talk) 21:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Missing Info

I just uploaded this image and the page says it's missing the vital info. yet it appears in the comments section under history how do I move it to the main info section and make the missing information tags disappear?

  • ✓ Done: you forgot the '=' signs ([2]). Lycaon (talk) 18:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
See Help:Section for instructions about this wikitext markup. --Teratornis (talk) 22:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Why do you make everything impossible?

I tried to upload a picture, but you made it impossible. I tried to contact for advice, but you made it impossible. Why do you make everything impossible?

I tried to upload a picture, but was told - you must give the original source blah blah blah. But these boxes were filled in in the upload. Apart from the license, in which we are not told what to write. I just want to upload an image completely free of any copyright restrictions, but we are not told what to put in the "license' box. And everything else - orignal source etc - is ignored by the software when I fill it in.

This shit is insansely user-unfriendly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblecar (talk • contribs) 18:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

See User:Teratornis/Why is Commons so complicated?. If you took the picture yourself, and the content of the picture does not violate anyone else's copyrights, you can use {{PD-user}} as the license. See COM:L and Commons:First steps. --Teratornis (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Unable to upload file

I was unable to upload this image file, since I got the message that it contained HTML or script that could be interpreted incorrectly by webbrowsers. Does anybody know what the problem is? --Jonund (talk) 22:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what the problem is. You could take a screen capture of the image file from your browser and save it as a PNG. --Teratornis (talk) 22:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Also had the problem yesterday when I converted a image from gif to jpeg with IrfanView. I then converted it with Gimp and Commons accepted it. But there is another problem: a few people mentioned that since yesterday they are unable to overload images (uploading an image a second time with the same name), while I as an admin was still able to do it with the same files. Were there any changes or was the software update yesterday the reason for it? -- Cecil (talk) 12:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. Just saw that it is mentioned already a few discussions up. -- Cecil (talk) 12:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Help with multiple licences on collage

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to upload a collage/montage I created of public domain files on the Wikimedia commons. It's of various Virtuosi of the cello, piano, violin, etc, and it is intended for the "Virtuoso" page on Wikipedia. Because it contains so many files, I've had a hard time figuring out which licenses apply to what, and how to make that clear when I upload it.

I know the obvious answer is to upload it through the derivativeFX tool, but I've tried several times on that for the past few days, and only succeeded in crashing my computer. Can someone guide me through the steps required for manually carrying out this task?

Many Thanks, Porius (talk) 02:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Instructions are in Commons:Collages. Examples are in Category:Montages such as File:Collage of views of Lublin.jpg and File:CollageFisica.jpg. If you can't push all that complex wikitext through the upload tool, just edit your image page's description and license sections after you upload the image. --Teratornis (talk) 08:22, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


Hey chaps. I uploaded the image File:WestBalkans800.png to Commons. How can I now upload it to Wikipedia articles ? Hxseek (talk) 07:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Picture tutorial. --Teratornis (talk) 08:07, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

General or personal upload problem?

Since yesterday approx. 12 UTC I can no longer upload replacements to existing files. I'm not aware of any changes to my local environment (I know, everyone says that!). The upload form is correctly filled and I'm getting the usual warning that I will be replacing a file if I continue. Regardless of whether I tick "minor change" and / or "ignore warnings" or not in any combination the upload seems to start upon submit but after a few seconds I'm prompted with the exact same upload form (one difference though: the path to the original file is void). No error msg. whatsoever... Have tried with different browsers (Firefox, IE, both latest version) on same comp and with different comp (albeit on same I-net connection). Same result always. Uploading entirely new files works just fine.

Is that a general or personal problem? If the latter, any hints as to what might be wrong? I hope that I pose my question on the right page. --Hagar66 (talk) 13:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a general problem, caused by recent software updates. See above and at bugzilla:20677. Lupo 13:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Relieves me to some degree. Thx for the fast reaction. --Hagar66 (talk) 14:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Private Pictures Upload

I have some pictures that have been privately taken by someone I know. The images are for free use, but obviously he has not gone into getting a free licsense. What is to be done to upload these on Wikimedia?

COM:OTRS. --Teratornis (talk) 23:14, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

New vesions of files

Good day, while in dont cant upload a new vesions of files saved on commons? --Esc.eliska (talk) 18:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Autoconfirmed users. --Teratornis (talk) 23:16, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Can't reupload and don't understand why.

I'm an autoconfirmed user who has reuploaded previously, but I'm not being allowed to today. I get the "A file with this name exists already in the shared file repository." message. The files I'm trying to register improved versions of are File:Klayman_Ha1.svg and File:Klayman_Ha2.svg in case that helps. I've tried to get around it by using a different file name, hence File:Klayman_Ha1_annotations.svg but there's an SVG problem there (the arrows don't appear in Commons the same way they do in Inkscape), and I can't reupload in order to fix that problem. TIA for any help, MartinPoulter (talk) 14:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, just read the previous message, which answers mine- doh! Sorry. MartinPoulter (talk) 14:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate files

Can antbody tell me how to delete dublicate files? I have accidentally uploaded the same pic twice. I want to delete one of them; what should I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OscarKosy (talk • contribs) 15:35, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Add {{Bad name|new name}} to the description of the file you want to delete, where new name is the name of the file you want to keep. --Teratornis (talk) 18:39, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I'am I right?

plz check the link [3] Am I right? this is really can be called "my own work"? Хитрый Петр (talk) 15:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

That depends on who created the poster. See Commons:Image casebook#Posters. If the uploader did not create the poster, then the image is a derivative work. The uploader would have to get permission from the creator and document it by COM:OTRS. --Teratornis (talk) 18:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand only one thing. 10 years ago I bought the chewing gum. Inside there was this poster (insert). My main cause was collect a new sticker. But if this sticker don't belong to me, why I should buy it? IMHO, this sticker isn't a Poster. I just looked at the guy who uploaded some photo with matches box and he wrote that the photo was his owns work...Хитрый Петр (talk) 07:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
When you buy a copy of a copyrighted book, you own the book, but not the copyright. Which means you cannot (legally) photograph pages out of the book and then claim copyright over them. The chewing gum package insert would most likely be under copyright of its creator. You can do what you like to the insert that you bought, but photographing it makes a derivative work. The photograph is not the same as the sticker or insert that you bought. I did not create these laws and I agree that in some ways they defy common sense. Read the links under COM:EIC#Copyright to get more understanding of how copyright law impacts Wikimedia Commons. Of course some photos get uploaded here with various copyright violations, because most users are not copyright attorneys who would understand all these laws. --Teratornis (talk) 09:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Problem with File uploading/updating

I get this message everytime i try to upload a new version of a file "A file with this name exists already in the shared file repository.If you still want to upload your file, please go back and use a new name. ".Also the previous update/upload of the file is not showing yet when you click on the file or on the thumbnail- you have to click and enlarge it for the last version to come up.Megistias (talk) 19:08, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
It's a known issue, see the posts above. Bryan has apparently fixed it, we're just waiting for it all to sync up. --Dancraggs 00:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Kategorien erscheinen nicht

Ich gebe jedesmal wie üblich die Kategorien vor dem Hochladen ein, aber wenn das Bild dann hochgeladen ist, fehlen die Kategorien, und ich muss sie nachträglich angeben. Früher hat das immer problemlos funktioniert. --Konrad Lackerbeck (talk) 07:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Maybe this has something to do with the file uploading problems in the above questions. --Teratornis (talk) 09:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

For User:Wikimedia_Commons_Welcome


As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Commons guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and noticeboards. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and the date will be then be automatically added along with a timestamp when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Commons:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. --Olliiiiii (talk) 11:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

This message is added by the software itself, so it does not really have an author. Signing it is not helpful as it will only bring users to the user page of the script, which cannot answer. That's why there are links to the Help Desk and the VP in the message. Regards, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 13:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


...doesn't seem to be functioning properly. Are there any known issues with this script? –Juliancolton | Talk 14:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I left a note on MediaWiki_talk:Cat-a-lot.js#Problem_with_the_list_of_subcategories as I wasn't sure if it was just me .. -- User:Docu at 14:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

unable to update image

At File:20090204 Tate Forcier.jpg, I have been unable to upload a cropped version. I have been getting the following error:

"A file with this name exists already in the shared file repository.

If you still want to upload your file, please go back and use a new name."--TonyTheTiger (talk) 02:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I have been using the Upload a new version of this file link.--TonyTheTiger (talk) 02:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Known bug after recent server-side software update: bugzilla:20677. Lupo 11:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Why does the report say resolved and I still can not upload?--TonyTheTiger (talk) 22:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Same experience here, unable to upload over existing image. Any help appreciated. Altair78 (talk) 23:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Got the same thing, please solve it --Afterworks (talk) 10:53, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Looks like the bug report has been reopened: bugzilla:20677 --Farry (talk) 11:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
This is a real serious blocking issue, I have not been able to upload a typo fixed version of File:ThermogeneseAdipozyten-en.svg getting this warning with no possibility to continue. If the bug is related to a SW change - could that be rolled back until it is fixed? --Burkhard (talk) 09:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm getting this error as well, for File:Mir_insignia.svg. Colds7ream (talk) 10:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
(...and various other files). Colds7ream (talk) 15:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Please, admins, note that this bug only bugs non-admins! Me too :( axpdeHello! 14:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Problem still exist. --Patrick (talk) 18:04, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


I took some photos (MetroNizami, MetroNizami1, MetroNizami2, etc.) in Baku subway station "Nizami Ganjevi". There you can see also artworks of azerbaijanian artist Mikail Abdullayev. But he was dead. I used PD-self (it shows that photo is mine), But I cannot show PD-Azerbaijan, because author of artworks was dead in 2004. So what must I do to save this images, please help me.--Interfase (talk) 17:13, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Freedom of panorama re Azerbaijan: "images of architectural works, photographic works, or works of fine art (which includes sculptures and statues) that are permanently located in publicly accessible places may be published only if the depicted copyrighted base work is not the main subject of the image and the image is for non-commercial purposes." Man vyi (talk) 10:22, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

These photos with artworks is not for commercial purposes, only for illustration of articles, nothing more.--Interfase (talk) 16:05, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

COM:L says files uploaded to Commons must be under a license that allows for commercial use. Commons does not allow files that have a noncommercial restriction. You cannot restrict a file on Commons to be only for illustration of articles. --Teratornis (talk) 17:13, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Posso carregar capas de vídeo game? A que licença se aplica?

É possível carregar uma capa de algum vídeo game (como a capa do jogo "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory")

A que licença se aplica? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victor Nunes Almeida (talk • contribs) 16:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

See COM:SCREENSHOT. Because Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory is not free content, you cannot upload screen captures from that game to Commons. You may be able to upload screen captures to one of the various language Wikipedias under a fair use criterion. See COM:FAIRUSE. --Teratornis (talk) 17:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Cannot find pictures

Dear helpers,

I uploaded two pictures to, but I can´t find them back. What have I done wrong?

Kind regards,

Ease — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ease (talk • contribs) 12:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Look at your contributions. See Help:History. --Teratornis (talk) 17:05, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
And see Help:User contributions. --Teratornis (talk) 17:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

uploading photograph


I work for The George Müller Charitable Trust and have just created some information about Henry Craik. We have a small museum here, which contains a photograph of Craik that I have scanned and wish to upload to this page. Please advise how I go about this..

Thank you.

Please investigate copyrights status of this images before uploading. And ask permission from copyrights holder to release them under free license (see Commons:Email templates and Commons:OTRS) if images are not in public domain. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:58, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Presumably, as the photograph is owned by us (must be about 150 years old), we also own the copyright? Silver Shiney (talk) 15:01, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Most likely it's {{PD-old}}. Is it possible to find out information about photographer? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - I've now found that it IS public domain Silver Shiney (talk) 10:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Color profiles

Hi! Could it be that the Wikimedia thumbnail generator does not use embedded color profiles? I've noticed that for some images, the thumbnail looks slightly different from the image when viewed directly in Safari 4. Could this capability be added to the rendering software? Morn the Gorn (talk) 00:57, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Example image with embedded ColorSync profile:

Pumpkins hires2.jpg

I am not sure if this is OK

I would like to upload this image becasue it fits perfectly with a wikipedia article I am currently working on. The only problem is I am not sure if I am allowed to. I have found over 100 instances of images from the Archives of American Art in commons, but just about every one is past its copyright date, and the other ones have very vague reasons it is ok for them to be here. Am I allowed to upload from the AAA? what licence do I need to put it under or what reason do I need to give? Any advice would be appriciated--Found5dollar (talk) 03:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Read COM:L for general licensing requirements for Commons, and Help:Public domain for details. The AAA FAQ page links to a Rights and Reproductions page which sounds very un-free. --Teratornis (talk) 06:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Tagging a category

I'm having trouble tagging the Category:New Rochelle buildings on National Register of Historic Places so it can be merged into Category:National Register of Historic Places in New Rochelle, New York. Where do I get a tag that won't break apart or threaten me with a warning? ----DanTD (talk) 13:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

If you replace "rename|Category:" with "category redirect|" it will be merged within a week. -- User:Docu at 13:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Placing image in public domain without any restrictions.

✓ Done Hi to the great folks who help the rest of us out. I have an image of original art created by a friend. He is willing to release it into the public domain without any restrictions for uploading into WikiCommons and subsequently into a Wikipedia article I've worked on. The creator does not even want attribution. I can't find a Creative Commons license that covers this. Does anyone know if there is any special language that should be included in obtaining his permission, or do I just make it up? Thanks for your help. --Tomaterols (talk) 22:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I recommend using the template from Commons:OTRS. Regards, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 23:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. The article is very helpful. I'm looking for some type of specific "boilerplate" language that would cover this situation, but I just don't see any. All the licenses seem to include attribution as a condition. I will draft up my own statement for the image's creator to "sign" and follow the OCRS instructions you pointed me to. I appreciate the effort.--Tomaterols (talk) 01:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Try {{PD-author}} or {{cc-pd}} or {{CC0}}. All are essentially public domain, the later two are Creative Commons options. Rocket000 (talk) 14:18, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Teriffic! the {{cc-pd}} template led me to the Creative Commons Public Domain Dedication, which has some excellent language. I think I've got what I need. Thanks again to both responders. Don't know how most of us would manage without help from people like you.--Tomaterols (talk) 00:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Image move requests

I'm uploading hi-res versions of some of my older pictures that have been copied from WP-EN to the Commons. Could someone move Siena Duomo hires.jpg to Siena Duomo.jpg? My Commons account is too new for this... Morn the Gorn (talk) 23:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Same request for File:Overlooking Capri harbour from the rotunda in Villa San Michele hires.jpg Morn the Gorn (talk) 23:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Same for File:Beverly Hills hires.jpg Morn the Gorn (talk) 23:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Same for File:Cable Car Station hires.jpg Morn the Gorn (talk) 23:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Also File:San Francisco Chinatown 1993 hires.jpg Morn the Gorn (talk) 23:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

P.S. All those old and new versions are also linked from my Commons User page... Morn the Gorn (talk) 00:24, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

So, is anyone able to move the pictures or not? Morn the Gorn (talk) 20:24, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Lizenz feststellen

Ich habe eine Anfrage an Nikon Deutschland geschickt und habe folgende Information erhalten (per E-mail):

--- Anfang der E-mail ---

Sehr geehrter Herr W.,
unter Angabe der Quelle dürfen Sie die Bilder aus der Nikon online Bilddatenbank - - verwenden.
Viele Grüße
Ihr Nikon Presseteam
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "inz. P. W." [4]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. September 2009 12:54
Betreff: [Fwd: Anfrage]
Wichtigkeit: Hoch
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: Anfrage
Datum: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:52:13 +0200
Von: "inż. P. W." <>
Ich habe eine Frage. Ich versuche seit einer Woche eine Antwort zur bekommen ob Ich das Logo & Fotos von Nikon auf Wikipedia veröffentlichen kann.
beste Grüße
P. W.
Skype Me™!
Virus Checked for Huntsworth companies

--- Ende der E-mail ---

Bitte um Hilfe :D !!! --Wechu (talk) 13:39, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Nicht konkret genug, sowohl die Anfrage, wobei ich die Originalanfrage nicht kenne, also auch die Antwort. Die Freigabe darf nicht nur für Wikipedia erfolgen sondern für Jeden zu jedem Zweck. Der Rechteinhaber sollte angeben, dass Ihm bekannt ist das die Freigabe unwiderruflich ist und Bearbeitung des Werkes sowie dessen kommerzielle Nutzung einschließt und das die Freigabe nicht auf Wikipedia beschränkt ist. Siehe Commons:Emailvorlagen#Einverständniserklärung für alle Anfragen für ein Beispiel. Wenn diese Bedingungen erfüllt wären, kämen wir mit dem obigen Text zu {{Copyrighted free use}}.
Besser ist die Frage nach Freigabe unter einer freien Lizenz, z.B. {{cc-by-sa-2.0}}, die Freigabe erfolgt zu jedem Zweck einschließlich kommerzieller Nutzung und Bearbeitung des Werkes, Die Weiterverwendung des Werkes ist Jedem gestattet solange der Autor genannt wird (Attribution – by) und die Weiterverwendung unter gleichen Bedingungen unter Angabe der Lizenz erfolgt (ShareAlike – sa).
Im moment hast du eine Freigabe von der nicht klar ist ob sie allgemein gültig ist oder wiederrufbar ist und aus der nicht hervorgeht ob jeder Zweck ok ist, also auch kommerzielle Nutzung. Überhaupt nicht erwähnt ist Bearbeitung, typisch für z.B. Presselizenzen ist, dass sie Bearbeitung ausschließen. --Martin H. (talk) 14:50, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Resizing photos

Hi can the images / photos uploaded be resized? Is there any way of controlling the thumbnail size when the photo is linked to an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RIO India (talk • contribs) 16:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Picture tutorial. --Teratornis (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Logo Upload

hello, i need to upload logotype of Xvand Technology Corp. and IsUtility logotype as well , but i don't know how to provide a license for Wiki. All i know it's the registration date and number. here is the site , REGISTRATION NUMBER: 2792959 REGISTRATION DATE: 12/09/2003 MARK: ISUTILITY you can check right there, my logo. So someone can tell how to provide WIKI with this info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roman Doroshenko (talk • contribs) 09:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

  • "WIKI" is not Wikipedia.
  • See other examples in Category:Logos.
  • See COM:CB#Trademarks to determine whether the logo is copyrightable. If the logo is copyrightable, you cannot upload it to Commons, unless you get permission from the copyright owner by following COM:OTRS. (Does "my logo" mean you own the copyright?) Failing that, you may be able to upload the logo to Wikipedia (not Commons) under a fair use criterion.
--Teratornis (talk) 20:40, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Uploading from flickr

hi i want to change the picture of some file on wikipedia but i don't know what license it is under?

i want to upload file from flickr please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexcooper1 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Read all the links under COM:EIC#Flickr. If you give us a link to the exact file on Flickr, we can give more specific advice. --Teratornis (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Even so, this photo is not acceptable under fair use on Wikipedia, because non-free content must have been already published or publicly displayed outside Wikipedia. See Fair use. Sv1xv (talk) 20:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

How to upload a picture of a person

I created the Wikipedia entry for Dr. Felixberto Cangco Sta. Maria, a noted Filipino educator who did a lot to promote the advancement of higher education in the Philippines.

His daughter, Cynthia Baron, provided me with his photo to be specifically used in his Wiki page. I'm ready to upload the file but I didn't find a suitable license category for it. Would you please tell me the license category that this photo would belong to?

Also, perhaps you can refer me to a help page that provides instructions to guide me in posting the photo in his Wikipedia page.

Thank you.

Alexcooper1 (talk) 22:09, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

  • To link to an article on Wikipedia from Commons: Felixberto C. Sta. Maria (by the way, that article is rather messy just now; see WP:LAYOUT for starters, and move the pasted-in e-mail message to Talk:Felixberto C. Sta. Maria).
  • "Wiki" is not Wikipedia.
  • Who is the photographer? If it is the daughter, you and she should follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. Note that Commons requires the copyright owner must grant permission for anyone to reuse the photograph, even for commercial use. See COM:L.
  • See Picture tutorial for instructions on how to put images in Wikipedia articles.
--Teratornis (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Image deleted

hello! the image I uploaded yesterday was deleted and I'm not sure I understand why. could you help me on that? I was uploading a picture of the person I'm creating the page. Carmen reinhart thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlegirl1225 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Your contributions show two images:
Note the odd space before ".jpg" in the first photo. --Teratornis (talk) 19:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Pictures to articles

How can I upload a picture to my article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adeleide (talk • contribs) 14:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

See Picture tutorial how to embed images in articles. --Martin H. (talk) 15:50, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


How do I delete a picture that I had uploaded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siimmoon (talk • contribs)

You could nominate it for deletion (see link in toolbox on file page). Please don't forget to provide reason for deletion. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:49, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Image:Konstantin_%C4%8Cern%C4%9Bnko_(Bundesarchiv).JPG is WRONG! does not show Konstantin Černěnko. It shows the german politician Hermann Matern ( The fake is obvious, if you look at "source" and "other versions".

it should be renamed to "Hermann_Matern_(Bundesarchiv).JPG" or something similar.

Unfortunately, the image has been used in an big number of wikis, so I don't know, if just renaming is sufficient. 14:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

As propsed by User:Docu on my talk I will delete the image temporary so that User:CommonsDelinker will remove it from all Wikis. The uploader included it in all this wikis himself, so there are no many people who will not understand this action and protest ;) After the delinking the file will be restored and moved to a proper filename. --Martin H. (talk) 11:33, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
From Category:Hermann Matern I would say, that we have enough images of this person, so this is not needed - I will not restore it. I really dont understand why it was cropped from File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-40000-0286, Leipzig, Turn- und Sportfest, Tribüne.jpg and named wrong. The description of persons is complete and correct, thats realy a fake. --Martin H. (talk) 11:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Please help me with licence

I cannot get Aagaard_NTLA_Speaker.jpg accepted for the Wiki Jane Aagaard article. The image is of the incumbent Speaker of the House of Legislative Assembly in the Northern Territory Government. It was supplied by the electoral office of the Speaker herself, is owned by the Northern Territory Department of Legislative Assembly and issued by their marketing department for free media use. Although it seems obvious that the image is licenced I cannot find any possible category that Wiki will allow. I have up-loaded three times using diffetrent strategies, all haver failed. I cannot see how this is possible even though deletion is not intelligent. Deletion was by a bot that is not capable of considering the issues. Any ideas?? Please help. Ex nihil (talk) 08:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Issued for free media use is not a free license, and thus is not acceptable for Wikimedia Commons.--Prosfilaes (talk) 14:06, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Follow the procedure in COM:OTRS if the copyright holder will release the photo under a free license. And note that "Wiki" is not Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 18:08, 26 September 2009 (UTC)



There is an article on L.A.S.Johnson on Wikipedia.

Today, his widow gave me a photo of L.A.S.Johnson, she gave permission for it to be used on Wikipedia. The photographer is unknown.

Can this scanned image be used on this Wikipedia article? And how should the file be licensed?

regards Poyt448 (talk) 07:39, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

To link to an article on the English Wikipedia from Commons, use this syntax: L.A.S.Johnson (or Lawrence Alexander Sidney Johnson to avoid the redirect). If the photographer is unknown, the widow cannot give permission, since she does not own the copyright. The photo will only be in the public domain if it is quite old. Also, permission to use a photo on Wikipedia is insufficient for the photo to be on Commons, which is a repository of free content - in particular, Commons requires files to be free for others to reuse, even for commercial use. See COM:L, COM:OTRS, Help:Public domain, Commons:Copyright rules, and other links under COM:EIC#Copyright. You might be able to upload the image to the English Wikipedia under a fair use criterion (fair-use images are not allowed on Commons). --Teratornis (talk) 20:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for replying to my question. However, my question does not have an answer. I want an answer of yes or no. And this is not clear in your reply.

You say "You might be able to upload the image to the English Wikipedia under a fair use criterion (fair-use images are not allowed on Commons). --Teratornis"

What does this mean? I have a photo of a dead botanist, given by his widow!

I know the widow of a meritorious person, who by his excellent botanical work has found his way on Wikipedia.

After his death, his elderly widow handed me his framed photograph.

And you cannot say that this photo can or cannot be used on Wikipedia. You did not give direct instructions.

I say to you. That your system of analysis and understanding or rules and regulations, is therefore flawed.

And that in this case, your determination of the facts is less than satisfactory.

If you wish to do the right thing for Wikipedia, and the community as a whole, you need to do better than this.

Again, I ask you, what is the best way to put this photo on Wikipedia? Poyt448 (talk) 06:21, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Your mistake is to assume there is a "best" way. There may not be any way. You haven't provided enough information to determine whether the photograph can be used by anyone, anytime, for any purpose. I gave direct instructions. Read the pages I linked to. In particular read the text box at the top of COM:L so you understand the kinds of files Commons can accept. If you don't know who took the photograph, you don't know who owns the copyright to the photograph. The widow may possess the photograph but she does not possess the copyright and thus she cannot guarantee that the photograph can be used by anyone, anytime, for any purpose. If the photo is old enough to meet the conditions documented in Help:Public domain then it would be usable by anyone, anytime, for any purpose, but the photo is unlikely to be old enough since the widow is still alive. On Commons we have to take copyright seriously, because copyright violations could threaten the existence of the whole project. Therefore we assume everything is not free content unless we can prove that it is. Note this problem occurs frequently, because the vast majority of photographers have never heard of copyright law or free licensing or any of that stuff, so there are millions of photographs floating around with unclear licensing. If the licensing is unclear, that is not good enough for Commons. Most people assume if they have a photograph, they can do whatever they like with it, but that is not necessarily how our lawmakers have ruled. --Teratornis (talk) 18:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

isn't there a problem with underage nudity?

if someone uploads a picture of a nude person, shouldn't he or she provide proof of the subject's age? i'm worried about this picture in particular--Camr (talk) 20:08, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Commons is not censored and pictures of nude minors are allowed under a few conditions, the first of which the picture must be legal under United States law. U.S. law doesn't define what a legal picture of a minor is, only what an illegal picture is. Generally speaking, illegal pictures of minors involve sexual acts or close-ups of the genital region. This picture doesn't seem to fall into that region. If the picture isn't illegal, Commons looks next to the issues of privacy and consent. The picture appears to have been taken of a person who was voluntarily naked outside, although consent for the photo to be published is debateable. I personally see nothing wrong with the photo. The girl doesn't appear to be very young, and there is a general principle that if you are outside people can see you. I am not in charge here nor am I a lawyer though so don't take my opinion as anything but my opinion. -Nard the Bard 20:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

thanks! i didn't know that.--Camr (talk) 20:44, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Bilder ohne Kategorien?

Auf meiner Diskussionsseite ist eine lange Liste meiner Bilder aufgetaucht, die angeblich nicht kategorisiert sind (BotMultichillT). Nach einigen Stichproben habe ich festgestellt, was ich ja auch wusste: Kategorien sind bei den Bildern durchaus angegeben. Vielleicht nicht immer vollständig oder sonstwie mangelhaft, aber jedenfalls - vorhanden. Die einzige Erklärung, die mir für diese und für gelegentliche frühere Unstimmigkeiten einfällt: ich benutze zum Hochladen die englische Fassung der Upload-Tabelle, mache die Einträge aber auf Deutsch. Vielleicht ist das irgendwie problematisch?--Eisenacher (talk) 18:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Nein, der Bot hat in letzter Zeit eine Fehlfunktion, bitte entferne einfach die ganzen Dateinamen von deiner Disk wenn sie dich stören und ignoriere die Warnung, die Kategorisierung deiner Dateien ist hervorragend. --Martin H. (talk) 04:40, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Coordinates help

As part of my effort to get more railroad-related images into the commons, I recently uploaded the image File:DART Red Line @ Union Station.jpg, but the process of doing so messed up the coordinates that the non-commons version had. Would anybody care to fix this? ----DanTD (talk) 04:39, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Rather than study the old coordinate coding I coded afresh by the Commons:Geocoding#Google Maps crosshairs method. Failing to recognize landmarks (never been south of Route 66 in Texas), probably my guess that this was an afternoon shot was wrong, thus I reversed the direction. Easier to get such things right when EXIF timestamp is present. Jim.henderson (talk) 14:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

can't update a previous file

I'm trying to update [] with a newer version of the SVG, but it doesn't like my attempts to upload a new version. Here is the error I get:

Upload warning

A file with this name exists already in the shared file repository. If you still want to upload your file, please go back and use a new name. File:$1 $1

Yes, it's a known bug. Should be fixed in the next day or so. –Juliancolton | Talk 01:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Still not fixed, at least in my case. The message sounds "A file with this name exists already. You can't upload a new version because your account is too new. Please go back and upload the file under a new name. Once you've done that, you can ask someone at the Help desk to move your file to the name you want.".
Well, I just want to upload a new version for an image on wikipedia, and I noticed the "Upload a new version of this file" button was missing, and found out it was hosted here. I followed the link that redirected me here and I still couldn't find that button. I clicked "Upload file" and I had to log in (?!) while I thought I was already logged in. It didn't recognize my credentials, saying that my username doesn't exist. I had to register again. It seems that it uses a separate user database than from wikipedia. After I uploaded the image using the super slow and ultimately useless DerivativeFX web app at, I got his message that my account is TOO NEW!! WTF? I've been a Wikipedia contributor for over 6 years, and only because this site uses a different user database, which I think is ridiculous, I had to register again so of course it's TOO NEW! Uploading on Wikipedia under the same name as on Wikimedia doesn't work either (which proves all the more how intertwined Wikipedia and Wikimedia are). I'm out of options and I'm boiling from the irony. --Zom-B (talk) 22:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

okay, thanks. CountZ (talk) 05:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I am also getting the same message when I am trying to upload a new version of any svg file I attempt to change. –NuclearVacuum 15:29, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

picture author

Hello, I`m searching for the photograpfer/uploader of the deleted file: Eurofighter-Typhoon-German-Air-Force-30+42-Emmen-Ef-4.jpg. How can I contact him? Thank`s in advance! --16:39, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I guess you did not think to Google - a cached copy is still there if you hurry. --Teratornis (talk) 18:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
I restored the file, the file description was significantly correced and the deletion was not correct. --Martin H. (talk) 22:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you both, thank`s for this hint and thank`s for restoring! --Wikifantexter (talk) 19:04, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

SVG Problem

Hello, I have a problem with the SVG file (File:Veranschaulichung der vollständigen Induktion.svg). When the file is converted to PNG by mediawiki, some fonts are decreased. There are no problems, when I view the original graphic in "firefox" or "eyes of gnome". Even saving the file in plain SVG does not fix the problem. Can anybody fix the graphic? Thanks --Stephan Kulla (talk) 01:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

You may get help on Commons:Graphics village pump if nobody answers here. See also COM:EIC#Inkscape. --Teratornis (talk) 20:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


Wo finde ich die Commons-Statistiken? Speziell suche ich Aussagen zur Zugriffshäufigkeit auf Commons-Seiten, ähnlich wie es in Wikipedia möglich ist. -- H.Albatros 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you refer to the page view statistics link that appears on the history page of an article such as Arnold Schwarzenegger? (A random example.) If so, see the text at the bottom of the statistics page:
  • This is very much a beta service and may disappear or change at any time. Questions or comments should go to User:Henrik
There is some discussion of this tool on User talk:Henrik. For example, User:Melancholie gives a link to show statistics for the Main Page on Wikisource. A look at User:Melancholie's page on Commons shows a link to some page view statistics for Commons. Both users Henrik and Melancholie are multi-lingual (including German) and multi-project, so you should read their user pages and user talk pages on the various projects to find clues about these statistics tools. --Teratornis (talk) 19:07, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Den Link zu hat Teratornis genant. Für Bilder beachte aber, dass eine Ansicht der Bidlbeschreibungsseite z.B. in der deutschen Wikipedia nicht für Commons gezählt wird. Du musst also für alle Projekte einzeln schauen wie oft eine Bildbeschreibungsseite angeschaut wurde, dabei ist es natürlich unwahrscheinlich, dass ein Bild von einem Projekt aus betrachtet wird in das es nicht eingebunden ist. --Martin H. (talk) 19:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


hi there - an obscene photo was posted to a friend's page. Pornographic. How can this be deleted, and how can the person who posted it be reported? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew Hinde (talk • contribs) 19:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

At the Vandalism noticeboard, on Commons this is Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Vandalism. Refer to the vandalism edit please. If the photo is out of scope or not will be judged different, Commons is not censored. --Martin H. (talk) 21:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Francesco Melzi

I am looking for the Portrait of Francesco Melzi attributed to Boltraffio. Anyone knows about this paintin? Thanks Tom — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 19:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

According to de.wikipedia it is "Sacra Famiglia", National Gallery in Prague. See this website. --Martin H. (talk) 21:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)