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Category naming: very long personal names

What is the current take on naming categories for people with names like Auguste-Jean-Baptiste-Antoine Cadolle (1782-1849) ? The few English sources I have usually reduce it to Auguste-Antoine Cadolle or Auguste Cadolle, but since the person is barely known outside of Russia there seems to be no definitive shortcut. NVO (talk) 06:52, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Start by reading Naming conventions (people). Then look for articles and categories about this person on the various language Wikipedias, and (possibly) follow their style. You could also look for a relevant WikiProject where you might find other users who specialize in the topic involving the person in question, and ask for suggestions on the WikiProject's talk page. This is the basic problem-solving procedure on Commons and the Wikipedias:
  • What are the documented rules?
  • What have other users done for the current case, or closely related cases?
--Teratornis (talk) 19:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
None of these seemed to work, that's why I am here. I am for the time being "the user who specialize", and the search for French sources yields conflicting answers (in Russian and contemporary British sources he is known by surname alone). The only commonly used English-language name for the person is M. Cadolle, unacceptable since there are another Cadollles on the record. NVO (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
If you are the sole authority then you get to set the precedent. I'd suggest "Auguste-Antoine Cadolle" because it is short enough to be convenient but long enough to (probably) be unambiguous. In the category description (the user-editable text that appears at the top of a category page) you can list the person's full name and all the variants you know about in various languages. Then they will show up in a search on Commons. If someone doesn't like your choice of category name in the future, they can rename the category. We don't get locked in if you make a "bad" choice, although renaming categories is not the easiest task. --Teratornis (talk) 00:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Copyright status of pic on Panamanian Government Website

Hi all. I would like to use an image of a past president of Panama, Daniel Chanis. There is a pic on the Panamanian government's website, very small, very low quality. If it's possible, what rationale could be used:

  1. The same rationale that one would use for the US federal government?
  2. Such a small, low quality image, and no other image exists?

Any help would be appreciated. This is the page the image exists on.

Vulture19 (talk) 05:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Both no. 1) The US copyright law exempts works created by U.S. federal government employees from copyright (at least in the U.S.), the copyright law of Panama not have such a broad exemption as far as I see from a quick view (only the usual, text of laws, regulations, etc. - see Art. 9). And 2) even if the image is of low quality or blurry: it is maybe protected by copyright, a rational like "no other image exists" is fair use and fair use is not accepted on Commons. You may check other Commons:Free media resources for images or look out for photographs or paintings created by photographers or painters who 1) published their work in Panama and 2) died >50 years ago (Art. 42) I dont know if this is ok with URAA and US copyright. --Martin H. (talk) 05:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thanks for the advice, will have to keep looking, I suppose. Vulture19 (talk) 13:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Search Flickr for images with the keywords: Daniel Chanis under these licenses: cc-by or cc-by-sa finds nothing either. --Teratornis (talk) 00:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

U.S. Government archives, how to upload and credit documents and images from ...

help! how do i upload stuff i got during a research visit at the "Archives of the Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site of the National Park Service"? they freely provide access to photos, plans and plant lists, asking only that reproductions be credited "Courtesy of Archives..." for example, how do i credit my upload of a scan i made "Oldfields_Border_plantings,_Olmsted_job-6883,_sheet_88,_scanned_11_2007_orig_sz_29x24inch.jpg"? the Park Service has not been able to digitize these materials yet, and i'd like to link the examples i have to the wiki articles on "Olmsted Brothers" and "Oldfields." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffvonb (talk • contribs) 06:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

There is a {{PD-USGov-NPS}} template, but that only applies to works by National Park Service employees in the course of their official duties. However, the template illustrates how to document the reuse provisions for a class of content. Merely claiming what the reuse provision are ("they freely provide access...") is not good enough for Commons; we need a verifiable citation of an official statement of that policy, preferably with a URL. I don't see anything useful on this FAQ page. I'm not sure what to make of this sentence:
  • While great strides have been made to gain intellectual control of the historic collections involved, more work is needed before embarking on a digitization effort.
Where did you learn about the reuse provisions? Also, please do not abbreviate Wikipedia as Wiki. --Teratornis (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
In the worst case you can follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. The worst case would be that we cannot find a clear official statement of copyright status for these works that makes them compatible with one of the licenses acceptable on Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 00:15, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Something went wrong

Smething went wrong during uploading of the deletion request for File:Perso 9.jpg. Someone who can correct this and the related pages? --Havang(nl) (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Using an image with permission that has a copyright notice

I have asked the original uploader of this picture on Flickr to use it on Commons. He replied on the comments and gave permission. In addition he relicensed the picture under CC-BY. The problem is, the picture itself has a copyright notice on it. May I upload it anyway, since I have permission to do so, or should I or the uploader remove the notice?—Totie (talk) 11:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

You have permission to do what you like with it, copyright notice and all. He seemed happy to see it uploaded to commons. Maybe he will give you the original if you explain that it will still link to his flickr user page... ~ R.T.G 14:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I have been able to remove the copyright notice and uploaded the picture. Thanks for your response.—Totie (talk) 17:26, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Review needed

It's possible for an administrator to review this image, and also all the imagen in the Category:Panoramio review needed. Many thanks. --JotaCartas (talk) 05:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I've reviewed the file you listed. I wasn't even aware that there was a category for Panoramio files. Killiondude (talk) 08:07, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much.--JotaCartas (talk) 14:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Help prevent deletion of file and Restore another

  • [File:Plastico.jpg] - PLEASE, RESTORE THIS FILE
  • [File:951-core.jpg] - PLEASE, HELP TAG THIS FILE

I hereby assert that I am the owner and holder of (surrender of) Rights of use and exclusive copyright of this cd-copy, scanned by the owner and slight-crop manipulated by me [1] and of [File:951-core.jpg|this image],

both granted to Wikipedia by signature from the object & owner.

I have mailed to the permission-mailbox earlier, as I was instructed to do

I agree to publish that work under whatever source suiting the terms for CD COVER-SCAN RECEIVED BY ME FROM THE VERY AUTHOR OF THE CD ITSELF

He is reachable at: (+972)3-5666901; natmmel(at)



Pleasr refer there and help me better my use of WikiPedia and its Commons.

Thanks Ooh (talk) 16:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

You was asked to sent a written permission to COM:OTRS, not to post it on the help desk. Also a permission "FOR THE WIKI NEEDS" is not enough, permission must be given voluntarily by the copyright holder that everyone can reuse the images everywhere, for every purpose including commercial purposes and modification under an irrevocable free license. Its your duty to provide a written permission, this project is edited by volunteers only, so no-one will contact the address you just wrote here. --Martin H. (talk) 19:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Please, try to be a little bit more helpful - I'm a volunteer too. ;-)
Okey, there it goes: I have mailed twice to the following: [] (no reply yet) - where I have asserted that I have had the full rights to use those two files on Wikipedia. I'll repeat it: I HAVE mailed it there. Now, one of the 2 files has been deleted, the other one is "questionned". Why? Now to the actual Licensing-matter: I do not (not yet) possess knowledge sufficing to distinguish one from another different codes such as those indicated in the list from where I should tick my appropriate license. I DO KNOW FOR SURE that I'm ENTIRELY AUTHORIZED to give Wikipedia the rights to use those images within the proj, and all I need thus is that you help me correctly license-tag them. Would you or anyone please read my support page where I have cited all informal & formal permissions I could, and help us out of it without risking the files? There again: HOW can I bring over to wiki the consent I have from the owner of the pictures? And should my own word not suffice?
Please help me tag back [File:951-core.jpg] and [File:Plastico.jpg] and restore them, and specify what I should do to maintain them.
Thanks. Ooh (talk) 20:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, my hebrew is not that good and I must rely on automatic translations that produce only riberish for hebrew ;) As far as I understand: You have wrote a request to the copyright holder, they answer with the name of the photographer and one sentence saying you can reuse the image in an article. You sent an email to Wikimedia saying the copyright holder licensed the images under {{cc-by-all}}.
1) I dont see the connection of your email with the original permission. "You can use the image in article xy" is not a permission to a free license.
2) The copyright holder must voluntarily release the image under a free license HE specified in his words, nothing else. He must aknowledge the terms of the license and the scope of the licensing (=everyone can reuse the image, not only Wikipedia but everyone).
At least your question on "how to?" was answered above, Commons:OTRS. You said you already forwarded your written permission, so it will be checked by an OTRS volunteer and accepted or rejected, if deleted in the meantime images will be restored. --Martin H. (talk) 21:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I see that now it takes only to wait and see the permission-guys's decision accept-or-reject as you said, since the guy you call *the copyright holder* is no other than the music group leader himself (- and as such is the one in both the photograph and cd-scan), and is the sole authority to determine what may be done with his lable and products, the fact that he personally and consciously has given me the permission to use the two files on Wiki could, or so I was hoping, be enough for us - as you guys trust me;-) - or so should it be, and in no way will that person intervene in our wiki-internal-mess here just to finally enable that article bare his pic – this is OUR very aim that the article be nice and graphically well-rendered etc. - His duty is to make music.
So I guess we should just wait, I totally hope the two little pictures get restored. Thanks very much for your effort. Please visit my "User talk" for further comments, which I definitely will need from you. /O Ooh (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


Is Commons extremly slow today or is it my computer? I just had to reset my whole system with some bitter losses (forgot to include browser bookmarks in my backup routine), so this question is meant serious ;) --Martin H. (talk) 19:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Here also very slow.--JotaCartas (talk) 20:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Wrong name

hi, some time ago I uploaded a photograph on Wikimedia Commons, but accidently gave the picture a wrong title.. The picture shows the Philip II Arena in Skopje being under construction, but the title I gave the pic is "Petrovec".. a photograph of a Macedonian village near Skopje which I thought I was uploading (I did later). So my question is : Can someone change the title of the pic to something like PhilipIIArena under construction.JPG ?? Yemc (talk) 14:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

To have a file renamed add {{rename|newname.jpg|reason=You reason (here: wrong title, typo, or something like that)}}. In this case I will do the rename. --Martin H. (talk) 17:28, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I want to replace this logo currently used in most Blender Articles: with the official one.

Because I think this old logo file is tagged with the wrong license (the Blender Logo is not GPL), is not really the Blender Logo but some icon for it and probably lacks some Trademark information/warning, I wanted to ask you what would be the correct form to upload this logo to wikimedia commons (I simply want to do it correct this time).

The logo guidelines for the Blender-Logo can be found here: . I already converted the .eps to a .svg, so the file is not a problem. But the license is.

I already talked to the chairman of Blender Foundation, Ton Roosendaal, but he wasn't sure either about correct licensing and tagging and about the correct author-description. Nevertheless, I think he will help bringing it to commons if he has to give any permission or something like that.

It would be great if you could help me there. --Julian Herzog (talk) 10:04, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

The logo page clearly states the logo is copyrighted and not free content. Thus it is unacceptable for Commons. See COM:L#Acceptable licenses. Note especially the restrictions on commercial use of the Blender logo. Commons can accept no commercial restrictions on media uploaded here. If Ton Roosendaal will release some version of the logo under a free license, you could follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. Otherwise your only alternative is to upload the logo to one or more of the Wikipedias and claim fair use, which you cannot do on Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 01:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
It looks like we have a mess with File:Blender.svg, as many pages link to that file and it is not under a license suitable for Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 01:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for your help. Then I'll probably contact Ton again, but it looks like it is not possible to find a license suiting the commercial interest of the Blender Foundation and the requirements on commons. So fair use looks like the only way to do it. --Julian Herzog (talk) 12:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Who owns Copyright?

I have a photo and it's being challenged, by people who for their own reasons are harassing me to get me to quit editing on Wikipedia. My question is simply this: Suppose you and your spouse are on vacation and you ask a total stranger to take your photo with YOUR camera. Is my nemesis right that this photo cannot be used without locating that stranger and getting HIM to give permission? This seems overly pedantic. In my case it was a photo taken by my wife on MY camera, at my request with a famous person (with his permission of course). Are these illegal photos for use on Wiki, based on this guys interpretation of your rules?Drsjpdc (talk) 22:07, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

A difficult question. Commons talk:Licensing/Archive 20#A stranger takes a photo of me with my own camera, who owns the copyright? supports the view, that you can not upload the image here. The photographer is the copyright holder and a copyright transfer (speaking in U.S. law as you are from the U.S. as I can guess from your timezone) is only possible in written form. In question the most precautionary view will "win" on Commons. A very odd deletion discussion on this is Commons:Deletion requests/File:Wm2007 DrorK and Bastique (with troll).jpg, finaly someone came out as the photographer. The same problem was also addressed e.g. in de.wp, the answer there was, that it depends on whether taking the photograph is creative enough for copyright or not depending on the strangers photographic skills. That's however impossible to determine, so in question: No upload. In case the photographer is a family member it might be easy to solve the problem, I don't think anyone will protest if you upload a photograph taken by your wife with the appropriate author information (your username +the information "family member" or "wife"). Also Commons is full of photographs showing the "author" with a famous person, this shows that the pedantism is correct but impossible to enforce. --Martin H. (talk) 00:14, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Few human inventions do as much to destroy happiness as copyright law. It's as if we humans designed a giant hammer to hit our heads with it. --Teratornis (talk) 01:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you could consider it a "work for hire" and assume the copyright ownership. Maybe. J.smith (talk) 05:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a Work for hire article on the English Wikipedia. It may shed some light. Or not. In the case of a photograph taken by the original poster's wife, he could follow the COM:OTRS procedure to document her permission. Following the official procedure should silence objections from the pedants, at least on that particular issue. --Teratornis (talk) 06:54, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Welcome on Commons

Sorry, but I'm logged in Wikipedia and in Wikiquote but not in Commons, so you mustn't write a welcome in my user talk. thanks Write here somethin'

You just logged in to Commons, see your log. So of course you are welcome here too. --Martin H. (talk) 17:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Look on Special:MergeAccount to see all the Wikimedia Foundation wikis you have automatically logged into. If you unified your account, you will log in automatically to a Wikimedia Foundation wiki merely by browsing to it while logged into any other WMF wiki. This causes some confusion for example when you log into another language Wikipedia and it is one that sends an automatic welcome e-mail in its site language. If you don't read that language, the e-mail will be quite a mystery. --Teratornis (talk) 06:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Move/rename an image

I recently uploaded an image from my phone, and somehow I uploaded it to [[File:Cafeteria.jpg]] instead of File:Hospital cafeteria.jpg. I don't see a "move" tab, so I'm guessing that's restricted to admins here unlike Wikipedia. If there's any admins out there, can you help me with this, or could someone point me to the proper place to do this? PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 22:14, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Image moving is limited to admins on Wikipedia, too (if I recall correctly). Commons:Moving files also has more info if you're interested. I've moved it for you. Killiondude (talk) 22:40, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 23:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

search engine

Why is the search window not working? Something as simple as "beans" or "wagon" should get at least some response. I would think that wikipedia would be able to post a site down message at the least, especially after successful fundraiser. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenrenaissance (talk • contribs) 01:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

It seems to be working for me. I'm getting tons of results. What do you see when you search? J.smith (talk) 05:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the search is back after it was broken hours ago for some hours. --Martin H. (talk) 05:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
The Wikimedia technical blog sometimes explains server outages. It is unreasonable to assume anything about a system built by strangers. Different people think in different ways, and have different priorities. There is also no reason to expect a successful fundraiser would yield any arbitrary feature, unless it had been promised. A million people could look at Wikipedia or Commons and each person could have a different idea about where the money should go. In reality, only the people in charge of spending the money will determine how it gets spent. For perspective, note that Bill Gates probably loses more money under his sofa cushions than the Wikimedia Foundation will ever see, and yet despite having orders of magnitude more money behind them, Microsoft products do not satisfy everyone either. I've tried running some wikis, so I understand what a miracle it is for these sites to work at all. --Teratornis (talk) 06:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
The server admin log has an entry that might be about this problem, but I don't know:
  • 02:14 logmsgbot: tstarling synchronized php-1.5/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php 'disabled $wgCopyUpload and $wgHTTPProxy on commons and test, breaks Lucene Search'
--Teratornis (talk) 06:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
That fits, the "upload directly from image URL" was temporary visible in the upload form. --Martin H. (talk) 10:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

request to delete a file

I'd like to get rid of the file Daniel R. White.jpg. How can I do that? Can anyone help? I put it there in ignorance and can't figure out how to get rid of it. It's of me, and it's of no educational value. dan White

Ok, I've deleted it. --J.smith (talk) 05:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Change profile's name

I would like to change my profile's name. Please specify where I shall submit my request so it's taken care of. Thank you, /Orrling Ooh (talk) 09:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Should I start a new Commons-account with my name or will anyone change this one as requested (so that existing files ramain associated with their upploader)? /O Ooh (talk) 09:41, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Take a look at Commons:Changing username. --rimshottalk 10:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanx /Ooh (talk) 10:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Question re licensing of screeshots to be uploaded to Commons

I am the owner of Formula Calculator Pty Ltd, which in turn owns the Formula Calculator Products described at

The Terms and Conditions at this site specifically allow free use of screenshots of the FC Products in various types of document, but, because it is commercial software, such screenshots don't seem to come under any of the Free License categories, at least as I understand them.

Does this mean that I can't upload screenshots to Commons, even though I personally, as the author of the FC Products, and the company, as the copyright owner, are prepared to place them in the public domain?

FCalculator (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

If You as a copyright holder agree to release some screenshots of your work under any acceptable free license then it's absolutely OK to upload them. But please tag all images with {{OTRS-pending}} tag, then copy email template, fill necessary fields and send permission to the, best of all from official company email address. It will allow to verify the permission. --Justass (talk) 22:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Dear user, please also keep in mind if you release screenshots under a free license, any element in the screenshots (such as logos, designs, and etc.) can be used for any purpose, also you/your company should be the copyright holder of all the elements in screenshots (logos, designs, images and etc.) or you must provide permission from their owners.
For more information on Commons rules and which license is more appropriate for you, please carefully read these pages:
Commons:Copyright tags
Commons:First steps/License selection
If you have any other question please do not hesitate to ask. Regards.   ■ MMXX  talk  23:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I think you (the original poster) would be better off licensing your material with {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} rather than placing it into the public domain, because then you would retain attribution rights, and prevent anyone else from depriving others of freedom to reuse any derivative works based on your work. Read the free content and copyleft articles to understand how this works. --Teratornis (talk) 00:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Some people have had success getting government agencies to release an image under public domain, etc. You can give that a try... if you do, have them send an e-mail of permission over to COM:OTRS. --J.smith (talk) 16:35, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Hinweistafel abfotografiert - wer hat jetzt das recht am Bild ?

Hallo, ich hoffe hier ist jemand dabei der mir helfen kann....?
Ich habe eine Hinweistafel fotografiert auf dem ein Gebäude zu sehen ist, dass würde ich gerne hochladen weiss aber nicht ob ich das darf ? Reicht es aus wenn ich dazu schreibe wer die hinweistafel gespendet hat oder sollte ich es bessder nicht hochladen ?
Das Bild zeigt ein Schloss von vor 250 Jahren und es ist eingraviert in die Hinweistafel. --Raoul & Carlos (talk) 17:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Das kommt darauf an, in welchem Land du das Foto gemacht hast und ob diese Tafel permanent und an einem öffentlich zugänglichem Ort installiert war. Die Frage ist, ob die Tafel unter die sogenannte Panoramafreiheit fällt. Diese gibt es nur in einigen Ländern (z.B. Deutschland). Auf COM:FOP findest du dazu detailliertere Informationen. --rimshottalk 19:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Also die Friesenhaus Entscheidung kenne ich schon lange. Dann eben anders erklärt. In Duisburg stehen die reste eines Schlosses, der Weg dorthin ist öffentlich und die Hinweistafel ist ebenfalls öffentlich zugänglich. Würde es also reichen wenn ich folgendes schreibe:

"Historischer Wanderweg im Angerland" Hinweistafel gestifftet vom Huckinger Bürgerverein sowie der Hüttenwerke Krupp Mannesmann

Und welche Lizenz muss ich dann auswählen? Noch eine Frage: Aus dem privaten Besitz eines Menschen den ich nicht weiter kenne, habe ich ein selbstgemaltes Bild fotografiert dessen Urheber weder der Mensch noch ich kenne, was muss ich da beachten ? --Raoul & Carlos (talk) 23:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Die Lizenz gilt für das Foto, nicht für das Objekt. Du als Fotograf kannst dir also irgendeine der auf commons zugelassenen aussuchen. Am flexibelsten ist die im Uploadformular angebotene Doppellizensierung. Oder du nimmst PD/Gemeinfrei, wenn du auf Namensnennung (des Fotografen) usw. verzichten willst. Ansonsten fällt das Foto der beschriebenen Tafel unter die Panoramafreiheit, kann also hier hochgeladen werden. Bei dem abfotografierten Bild ist das schon schwieriger. Wenn eindeutig erkennbar ist, daß es älter als 130 Jahre ist, kann man davon ausgehen, daß der Maler lange genug tot ist und die Urheberrechte erloschen sind. Also hochladen, wenn es für die Wikipedia irgendwie zu gebrauchen ist. Ist das Alter nicht eindeutig zu ermitteln, oder ist es eindeutig jünger als 100 Jahre, dann hast du leider ein Problem: Es könnten noch Urheberechte drauf sein - ohne Genehmigung des Malers oder dessen Rechtsnachfolger/Erben kein Hochladen erlaubt. -- smial (talk) 01:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Danke, das hat mir geholfen --Raoul & Carlos (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Problem with image reload

Whew, this is very complicated for a beginner.

I have this image named SCM Allied Paper Tractor Trailer Rig.jpg that I've updated the source oinformation on but the directions for what codes to add to reload it aren't clear enough. I've made a mistake somewhere. Can you help reload it?


Jeremy Winkworth (jmwinkwo)

this image has a tag on it... if you think the issue has been resolved just remove the tag. I would like to point out, however, that this image is not in the public domain. It's copy-write is either owned by the library or John Todd's family (depending how the gifting took place). J.smith (talk) 16:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Interesting is, how the gifting took place: in general, if you are not the author of that file, you have to bring a written permission (email, etc). Just stating "Donated by John Todd (deceased) to the Portage Public Library, Michigan, USA" is a bit too less, because anybody could say that an image is the donation of somebody. --High Contrast (talk) 16:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. We'll have to let this image be auto-removed. The guy who took the photo is long dead and I don't have any confidence in what the library could provide me with. It has been used on another website but no mention of copy-write status was made. jmwinkwo

delete photos

how can I delete my photos? kindly delete it immediately, many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rchrystin (talk • contribs) 10:12, 6. Jan. 2010 (UTC)

Hello Rchrystin, no problem. I deleted your fotos. greetings -- Ra'ike T C 11:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Ruth Draper

Hello, I'm wondering if you can help with another photo problem. The 1903 picture posted on the page for Ruth Draper, the American monologue artist, is NOT a photo of Draper. It may be someone else with the same name, but it is not Ruth Draper, the actress known for her one-person theater sketches. I tried to delete the photo, but no luck. Can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rue137 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Your question is easier to understand if you link to the page and photo you have in mind. There is a Ruth Draper article on the English Wikipedia; you seem to be contesting the description on the photo File:Ruth Draper 1903.jpg. The information on Commons comes from this entry at the Library of Congress. How do we know you are right and that page is wrong? --Teratornis (talk) 22:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
The Library of Congress entry does not specify which Ruth Draper the photo depicts. You could be right, the photo could depict a Ruth Draper other than the subject of the Wikipedia article, but just making an unsourced assertion is not helpful here. Ideally you should provide sources to identify the person in the photo, and show she is different from the Ruth Draper in the Wikipedia article. See WP:V. In any case, the solution would not be to delete the photo from Commons, but simply to remove the photo from the Wikipedia article. --Teratornis (talk) 22:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


What about of a photo from the magazine "la nacion" (electronic)? It can? What series license is? --Francia user (talk) 01:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Commons does not accept photos from commercial sources without a free license. Your photo is not allowed on Commons because it is copyrighted by the magazine. -Nard the Bard 02:15, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Please help

Hi! I'm Francia_user, the user who ask about of the photo of the magazine "la nacion". What about of this photo? (the first photo) It can? What license is? Thanks

In case not it can, they can raise (somebody that knows please) a photo of Sebastian Ortega. Thanks

--Francia user (talk) 17:12, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Copyrighted website: down the homepage is written: Copyright © 1999-2009 not allowed for commons. --Havang(nl) (talk) 18:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Logo , copyright all in chinese

Yes check.svg Resolved

Is this all ok , it is a logo and usually non free logo, good for usage but it is claimed to be the copyright holder and release into the public domain, any clues? Off2riorob (talk) 15:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I think it may be considered {{PD-textlogo}}. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Eugene. If you feel strongly about it, you could initiate a DR. Killiondude (talk) 22:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for changing it, I agree with that classification. Off2riorob (talk) 19:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


All the photos that I raise to the flock the user Martin H.. And I cannot raise ANY, he is made happen through professional and above already he has asked things here. You can raise to a photo of Sebastian Ortega? Thanks

--Francia user (talk) 21:18, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

This is answered above and on various talkpages of Sofia-co - your - sockpuppets.

--Martin H. (talk) 07:44, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Problem with rotating Image

The bot Rotatebot, rotated unnecessarily the image File:Farol do Castelo de Santiago-02.JPG, and I reverted it, but now is a little overwhelmed in the category page (thum image), and in pt.wikipedia - someone help?--JotaCartas (talk) 06:52, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I dont know how exactly this works, but the EXIF orientation tag was identified with the upload, a tag was placed on the image and the bot executed the rotation and not recognized that you already did it (I think there is some room for improvememnt, the bot may have recognized your reupload). However, I dint understand your request, for me the image is showing up correctly in the category and article. Please refresh your browsercache if this was the problem. --Martin H. (talk) 08:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
User:Justass added {{rotate}} [2] before you uploaded a new version. The bot rotates all images with that template and then removes it. -- User:Docu at 13:05, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Ouch, yes, I didnt recognized that there was another user because of the same initial letter. --Martin H. (talk) 13:15, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


What about pictures from a movie? In this case Titanic (1943)? -- Extraplot (talk) 01:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

What is copyrights status of movie? In which country it was filmed? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Do you refer to Titanic (1943 film)? --Teratornis (talk) 18:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes. -- Extraplot (talk) 21:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Help:Public domain#Copyright terms by country gives life of author plus 70 years for the copyright term in Germany. Since 1943 was about 67 years ago, the film is probably not out of copyright yet. COM:SCREENSHOT says screen captures are derivative works of the program or film from which they come, and thus fall under the same copyright as the source. If you can determine who owns the copyright to this film, you could ask them to release some screen captures under a free license and follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. See also Requesting copyright permission. --Teratornis (talk) 20:02, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

No Domain or db name was given

How do I correct "No Domain or db name was given"? I have no idea what that is or where it should be placed. Liebgard (talk) 19:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)liebgardLiebgard (talk) 19:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Where did you see this message? --Teratornis (talk) 04:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Reusing content

Can Commons Images be used as set decoration on a movie? I am interested in using Larry D. Moore's "Austin Capital At Night". 22:13, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

See COM:REUSE. --Teratornis (talk) 04:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
If you refer to File:Texas Capitol night.jpg, the file description page gives the terms for reuse. You can put the attribution and license information in the film credits, I suppose. --Teratornis (talk) 04:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

How to put a picture

ok I want to put a picture on a fileon Wikimedia but I dont know how. How do you put a picture on you wikimedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klaafamily (talk • contribs) 22:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

What picture? On what page? If you tell us the name of the picture and the page, we can give you exact instructions. For general instructions see Picture tutorial. --Teratornis (talk) 04:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Screenshot of a closed-source freeware

Which license can I denote for an self-made screenshot of a closed-source software which is free for personal use? BPK (talk) 07:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The software must be Free content, free for personal use freeware is not free. If the software is licensed under GPL, GFDL or any such license you can upload it with Commons:Upload/screenshot. If you need help to determine whether the software is free a name of the software is helpful :) --Martin H. (talk) 07:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
COM:SS is also a handy page about this topic. Killiondude (talk) 07:21, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

First Upload: Some Question

Hello, this is my first attempt to upload, here. I have a picture of State Senator Gretchen Whitmer that I'd like to add to her Wikipedia page:

The photo on this page clearly reads "Photo available for media use", meaning its free to use, here, but when I go the the upload page, I have no idea of what option to choose on the "Where is the work from?" list. It's not my work, or a flickr file, or a derivative Commons work, etc..., so I click on the "Somewhere else" option to take me to the upload page. From there, I have no idea what I'd add in the "author" field. Can someone tell me what I'd type into each of the required fields? Is it not uncommon to upload fair-use political potraits to be used on that public figures' wiki page? --CommonsEnse1859 (talk) 07:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

"Fair use" images are not allowed here. Lupo 10:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
More specifically, "available for media use" is not enough for us — we need it to be released under a free license which permits use, modification and distribution by anyone for any purpose. You could perhaps upload the photo to Wikipedia under a fair use claim. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 17:56, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


I could not see how to edit the title of a file so I uploaded it again with the correct title. I do not see how to delete the file with the wrong title.

I don't see where I should apply {{rename...etc}} and {{speedy...etc}}for delting a double file. There is no place before or after the file name that allows me to put that. Liebgard (talk) 02:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)liebgardLiebgard (talk) 02:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Liebgard, you can not rename a file so you may upload it again under the correct name (what you did, so ok), or you can ask for rename with {{rename|newname.ext|reason=Your reason (e.g. typo, wrong identification, nameing shema)}} with .ext beeing the file extension like .jpg or .JPG. See Commons:File renaming.
Now you have uploaded the duplicate and you want to delete the old version. See Commons:Deletion guidelines, the correct tag is {{duplicate|newname.ext}}. You must edit the description page and place this tag prefered at the beginning or at the end of the description page. --Martin H. (talk) 07:49, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
The document you uploaded appears to be under copyright still. The library's TOS forbids sharing the file. --J.smith (talk) 21:43, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

New version of image is not shown on Wikipedia

I have uploaded a new version of File:BruuuceHead.jpg but the new version is not shown on Wikipedia – see for example the article Bruce Hornsby, which uses the image in the beginning, or see for example the section New York City and Hamburg in the article Steinway & Sons. (In the old version the "E" is missing on the grand piano). Fanoftheworld (talk) 03:31, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Please refresh your browser cache. --Martin H. (talk) 07:21, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
That does not solve the problem. The "E" on the grand piano is still missing when the picture is shown on Wikipedia – see for example the article Bruce Hornsby, which uses the image in the beginning, or see for example the section New York City and Hamburg in the article Steinway & Sons. Fanoftheworld (talk) 12:30, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Then it is a matter of the server cache, if you uploaded the correct image it will show up correctly soon. --Martin H. (talk) 12:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
It is more than 20 hours ago I uploaded the new version. Fanoftheworld (talk) 12:46, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, you uploaded the correct image, so it will show up. Maybe the servers are slow, Its simply a technical delay, but thats nothing someone here can help you ;) --Martin H. (talk) 12:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok. Fanoftheworld (talk) 13:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
It looks like the "E" is there in the main picture, but the thumbnail generator hasn't synced yet. Unfortunately, like Martin said, this isn't something that we can help you with. Sorry! Killiondude (talk) 17:44, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Ok, this is fixed. You can force the server to purge the local cache by adding the "&action=purge" tag to the end of the page. After that, you need to force a reload of your local cache. I hold down shift and hit reload. It's now showing with the E for me on both thumbnails. --J.smith (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Deleted images

How could i get back my uploaded self-made images (see talk of mine)? CD (talk) 14:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to re-upload the images if you can fix the problems that got these images deleted in the first place. --J.smith (talk) 20:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, the bad news is that usually i delete them from my computer after upload... CD (talk) 06:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, there is a problem. For instance, when you uploaded File:LRprezidentura.jpg on June 20, 2007, you just said "author=kastsmig" and GFDL as the license. However, this image also exists at Panoramio, where it is marked "all rights reserved". So, if you just took that image from panoramio and uploaded it here: we won't restore this image. If youare "Kastsmig", you could simply change the license at Panoramio to CC-BY or CC-BY-SA; then we could restore the image here and adapt the license accordingly. But then I don't understand why you say it was a problem that you didn't keep the files on your computer: just get them again from Panoramio.
The same problem also exists with File:KrikstenuMokykla.jpg, which also exists at [3]. I didn't look at your other uploads.
If you want these files restored (or re-upload them), you should really change the license at Panoramio to CC-BY or CC-BY-SA. Lupo 08:20, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


  • In that page what photo can be raised in commons? What license is?

P.S: Can you explain to me?

Thanks --Esperants (talk) 14:53, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Read Commons:Sobre las licencias. Probably none of them, because probably none of them is freely licensed, but I didn't really bother to check. Lupo 15:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
  • In this pages (within each there is at least a photo)?
    If not it can you prune to me to give to a page with a photo of Sebastian Ortega that can be raised commons?

Thanks --Esperants (talk) 17:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

No. Google finds exactly four images relating to the text "sebastian ortega" with licenses that would allowed here, and none of them is of the director. Lupo 18:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

thumb ok, opened image the old one

uploaded new version of image, here

the thumb is ok, clicking on it shows old image ?

I know the big one is here , coz I can see it at my contribs.

? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BubikolRamios (talk • contribs) 08:07, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

When you upload a new version of an image, it takes time for the change to propagate though. Sometimes less than a day, sometimes more than a week. I do not know why. Maproom (talk) 11:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Links in category description text

Is there a general consensus on where links should point to? That is, should they mostly try to point to categories here in Wikimedia Commons, or to articles in Wikipedia? -- DMS (talk) 15:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Give examples of what you mean. There are almost infinitely many possibilities for the linked text. The only general rule that could make sense would be to choose the link destination that best describes the linked text. I don't see how this could be decided on anything but a case by case basis. --Teratornis (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The category page Category:First Great Western Link is a good example. FGWL was a train operating company, and the text on that page summarises the area it operated in as follows: "...local and regional services from London Paddington to West London, the Thames Valley, Oxford, Hereford, Worcester, Newbury and Basingstoke." What I'm trying to get a steer on, is whether people would expect links like these location names to be links to elsewhere in Commons where they'd find images, or links to the pages about these places in Wikipedia, where they'd find information. I came across this page and noticed that these place names were all red links (they just have double square brackets around each place name, like you'd do in Wikipedia), and was about to set them to point to relevant pages here in Commons, but then thought I'd best check first, in case there's a consensus on this. -- DMS (talk) 22:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The red links to pages on Commons would (eventually) point to gallery pages on Commons, if someone makes them. (Instead of articles on Commons, we have gallery pages in the main namespace.) Each gallery page could have interlanguage links that would lead readers to the Wikipedia articles in various languages about the respective locations. I doubt there is a consensus on the best way to do this, because Commons is less-developed than the English Wikipedia - we don't have the same kind of intricate Manual of Style guidelines here. Since it is difficult to predict whether a random visitor would want to find images or information about a topic, one solution would probably not be ideal for everyone. However, linking to Wikipedia articles is not necessarily a dead end for images, because they can link back to Commons galleries or categories via Template:Commons or Template:Commons category. When I'm organizing categories or galleries on Commons, I add interlanguage links to them if suitable Wikipedia articles exist, and then add the templates to the Wikipedia articles to link back to Commons, if they weren't already there. With these linking methods we can insure that whether you linked to a page on Commons or on a Wikipedia, a reader could eventually get to the corresponding page on the other wiki. Another possibility is to create a template that creates a double-headed link to both a page on Commons and on one of the Wikipedias. --Teratornis (talk) 00:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks for that, Teratornis. I understand what's required now. Much appreciated! -- DMS (talk) 00:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Can I upload this image?

I wonder if this image from internet website is covered by "public domain" rule of the country China? Actually, this website is encouraging any readers to 转载本文 (meaning "reproduce" in English) by labeling such under the article, and give the image link along with the website link both in UBB code and HTML code. There is also a function block "Copied to the clipboard ..." to let reader conveniently do so. If I can upload it here I will link it to a zh-wiki article. If I cannot, please friendly explain it in detail to me and help me a wiki lover to learn more copyright knowledge from this real case. Thanks. --Lvhis (talk) 19:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

The conditions you mention are not free enough, neither commercial reuse is mentioned nor modification nor that the permission is perpetual/irrevocable. Reagarding the pd: Do you have a date for the image (and where it was first published)? --Martin H. (talk) 23:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Martin. Regarding the date for the image, I am quite sure it must be before the end of 1983, more than 25 years ago. Because it has been publicly known now that this person has left the position of the nuc sub designer for civil nuc plant before that time. The image was published at this website appeared dated Jan 16, 2007; while one other website ( I just newly found publishing the same image did not clearly date it. One more website ( having the same image dated it Sep 23, 2009. So it sounds the website mentioned very first is where the image was first published. Are these enough, or not, for it to be covered by pd? --Lvhis (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Regretably not. The copyright expiration term, according to s:Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China (2001), Article 21, for photographic works is 50 years after the first publication of the photo or, if unpublished 50 years, 50 years after creation. Created 1983 the photo will become pd in 2034. Maybe it was first published in 2007, then it will become pd in 2057. --Martin H. (talk) 10:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah I see. Thanks a lot for your explanation! So I just give up. Or if I really want to have this photo to be with a wiki article now, I need to find the photo's copyright holder and get his permission -- is this the only way I have to do? Thanks again. --Lvhis (talk) 20:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Some wikis permit something called "fair use". Commons does not, but perhaps zh-wiki does? That might be an option. --J.smith (talk) 16:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank J.smith very much for introducing one more option "fair use"! I haven't totally figure out how to use it. Now I just used a reference way, a very safe way not violating copy right, to link this image to that zh-wiki article. --Lvhis (talk) 20:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

new version added and problem

I added a new version of File:Kostukurba10.jpg. The new version appears in Commons, but not in the wikipedia article I put it ( What is the problem? Thank you.11:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)Joxemai4 (talk)

Your browser cache or the server cache. You may bypass your cache and purge the page. If this not help you may simply wait some time or days. --Martin H. (talk) 12:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for intrude muself, but i had similar problemns, and the solution is not to purge the browser cache. The problem is the cache of the 'thums images' of commons or wikipedia. I cleaned the original image in commons, supressing the watermark (File:Chapora-fort.jpg). In en wikipedia, (en:Chapora Fort) is still showing the watermark. In pt.wikipedia i changed the pixels from 300px to 299px and the image is clean (pt:Forte de Chaporá), but if I restore the 300px, the thum is still showing the watermark. In commons, the 'big image' is clean, but the two thumbs at the end of the page still show the watermark. I think that it's needed a purge to commons cache. (obs: the change was made more than 24 hours ago, it was/is written in white over the blue sky ""). (sorry about my poor english)--JotaCartas (talk) 22:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Just purged File:Chapora-fort.jpg server cache and new version as well as thumbs here and on en and pt wikis are without watermark. If you still see old version purge your browser --Justass (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Maybe we should have an edit notice for this page that details how to do that, as there's been several threads this past week with this issue. Killiondude (talk) 22:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
OK. It´s done and everything fine. Thank you.--JotaCartas (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Deleting of the pictures ref (Sara Chaudhray)

Dear wikimedia.

I am having problems with downloading Sara Chaudhray pictures on to her profile. I am new to wiki can you please help me step by setep.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeNtLeMaNLDN (talk • contribs) 00:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Read Commons:First steps and Picture tutorial. If you want more help, describe exactly what you did, and what the computer did in response. Just telling us you are having problems is too vague to admit an answer, because we can't tell whether you are trying to upload photos, use photos that are already here, or what. Also, we don't use the word "profile" on Wikipedia to describe what you probably mean; we use the word article. --Teratornis (talk) 06:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


I just tried to revert File:Earth precession.svg to the orginal version 22:01, 4 May 2008 because its thumbnail shows the correct CW precession as I explained at File talk:Earth precession.svg. However, there was no change in the image displayed. Does clicking revert next to a specific version of an image actually revert to that image as implied by the message "You are about to revert the file Earth precession.svg to the version as of 22:01, 4 May 2008."? Or should I have clicked revert next to the wrong image?

Looks like it was just a caching issue, which I should have checked before I re-reverted. Your procedure was perfectly correct. Powers (talk) 02:06, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible to remove a picture?

Hi, I'm the author of , and the subject feels no longer comfortable with having his image displayed on wikipedia/-media and under a cc license (see licensing change of original on flickr). Is it somehow possible, to get this picture removed from wikimedia and/or the articles in en./fr. wikipedia? Thanks for your help Christian Geier

Free licenses are irrevocable. However privacy concerns may justify deletion. Just use Nominate for deletion link in toolbox on image page. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:11, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Renaming files

Hi, I was wondering how you go around moving files on Commons. The image I have in mind is "File:Weizmann and feisal 1918.jpg", which should be renamed to reflect that the corrept spelling of the Iraqi emir is "Faisal", with an a. YeshuaDavid (talk) 00:34, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

See Commons:File renaming. And the "#Titel" question above. --Teratornis (talk) 07:37, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

License to Myspace pictures

Hi! I want to know if i can upload this Picture from myspace and what license i use? Thanks!

No, you can not upload this image, it is copyrighted and not free and so not accepted here. The copyright holder must publish it under a free license and approve the licensing in written form. --Martin H. (talk) 23:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)


Is there Popups here on Commons, just like Wikipedia? If there are, how do I enable them? --NerdyScienceDude :) (✉ click here to talk to me) 02:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you would add importScript('User:TheDJ/popups.js'); to your monobook. Killiondude (talk) 03:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

File:Israel outline negev mt.png

Hello, I found this map [4] on Wiki Commons and it seems to imply by the coloring that the West Bank and Golan Heights are part of Israel. I want to take it down, but I don't want to mess up any pages and don't know where to find a replacement... Some one help!!!

A good idea would be to simply improve the description of the image, or, if this image not fits in any period of time, correct it. --Martin H. (talk) 10:51, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

May I upload a picture of my own artwork?

I'd like to contribute a photograph of an artwork for the article about paper quilling (the photo). I'm the author of both the artwork and the photo. The guidelines clearly state that uploading photographs of art is not permitted. Does this apply in my case, too? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Increations (talk • contribs)

If you are willing to release your artwork under a free license (meaning anyone can modify the image and use it commercially for anything they want), then yes, you may upload the photo. Powers (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

PD-Philippines -> PD-US-1996

I am encountering what I believe to be an absurd situation where some very old photos from the Philippines which are clearly in the public domain in the Philippines as stated in {{PD-Philippines}} are being prevented from being used on Wikipedia as public domain photos because of U.S. restrictions. Looking at the problem a bit more closely I notice that {{PD-US-1996}} may provide the answer to a great many of the situations.

According to Philippine law, all copyright on works expires 50 years after creation—a very broadly applicable and clear-cut standard.

{{PD-US-1996}} lists 3 criteria:

  • it was first published outside the United States and
  • US copyright formalities were not complied with and
  • it was in the public domain in its home country on January 1, 1996.

The third criterion on that list can probably be easily met by a great number of photos. The flies in the ointment are the first two points.

For the first item:

  • What is a published work? If I saw a photo in a Philippine museum or hanging at the entrance of a publicly accessible company office HQ is that considered published? Is my seeing it considered acceptable or do I need some published or printed source to confirm what I say?
  • If a work is unpublished it's still public domain in the Philippines 50 years after creation. Is an unpublished public domain photo in the Philippines covered by {{PD-US-1996}}?
  • How can one be certain it wasn't published in the United States first?

For the second item:

  • How does one determine United States copyright formalities weren't complied with?

Lambanog (talk) 11:24, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

When you allude to a "situation", that is to some discussion that occurred somewhere, please link to it. We need to know what the other people (who you do not identify) are saying. If the facts are as you present them here, it's hard to imagine what your opponents are arguing about. Before we can conclude they are wrong, we need to know why you haven't convinced them, and only they can tell us that. Incidentally, the link on {{PD-Philippines}} is broken now. With reference to your museum question see COM:CB#Art (copies of). --Teratornis (talk) 20:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

New Licensing Template

Hi. Recently I had obtained permission through OTRS for the files listed at Category:Drowned World Tour from however, actually the website has agreed to release all their images for commons under proper CC-BY-SA-3 license and attribution. My question is instead of continuously sending mails to OTRS whenever uploading an image can we create a separate template asserting the single OTRS ticket for permission as is done for eg in this template: {{Cc-by-3.0-IndiaFM}}? If so, how can it be done can anyone explain? -- Legolas from Mirkwood 12:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Where is the record of the website agreeing to license all their images under {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}? Sites that do this generally put a page on their site that explains their licensing terms. You could make a license template that links to that page. I see an FAQ page on that site, but it says nothing about licensing terms for the site content. Ask the site admin to put up a page like Appropedia:Appropedia:Copyrights. --Teratornis (talk) 02:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Screenshot of my own console application

I made screenshot of my own console application that I would like to publish in wikimedia commons. I would like to post it here. It will be completly free, just not sure if It's ok to publish screenshot from console under Windows Vista. Yakudza19 (talk) 16:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Commons:Screenshots explains the rules. Especially see Commons:Screenshots#Microsoft products. If your program can only run on a Microsoft operating system, you could try contacting Microsoft to ask whether your screenshot constitutes a derivative work that violates their copyright. If your program can run on a free operating system, take your screenshots under that. --Teratornis (talk) 02:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Apostrophe problems again

I'm having trouble transferring a file to the commons because of an apostrophe, again. In this case it's File:Customers at Charlottesville Union Station from inside Amtrak's Cardinal.jpg. Who can fix this? ----DanTD (talk) 20:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Select a filename without the apostroph, they were allowed one time in filenames, but now they are forbidden. You can also request renaming of the file on en.wp to a filename without apostrophe before moving it to Commons. --Martin H. (talk) 20:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Ucch! I've got to rename the file again? Okay, if that's what I have to do. ----DanTD (talk) 20:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I must have missed this. Where were apostrophes disallowed? Server-side, or Titleblacklist? Why? Lupo 21:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Dont know, my information based on personal expirience, I - and other user too - was once unable to reupload images with ' in filename because of some restriction. However, I tested it with File:Test's.svg and it works, also I already transfered the image requested above to Commons File:Customers at Charlottesville Union Station from inside Amtrak's Cardinal.jpg. So false alarm. I dont know why the user was unable to upload the file containing an ', hopefully I was not only able to do so because of Admin privileges. --Martin H. (talk) 23:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the original photographer left Wikipedia, and I renamed it. I just forgot how much Magnus' uploading tool can be sensitive to apostrophe's, before I did. ----DanTD (talk) 00:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
This is only tangentially related, but I've also noticed that when I try to delete files with apostrophes in the title, I have a hard time using automated efforts to delete them (I have to manually delete them with the "delete" tab). Curious. Killiondude (talk) 00:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

How to add a subcategory


I am a semi-newbie. I want to create a subcategory called Downtown San Jose, California within the category Neighborhoods of San Jose, California but I don't know how to do this. I checked the Help pages and could not find this info. Can someone help?

Thanks, Bento00 (talk) 21:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Take a look at other subcategories of Category:Neighborhoods of San Jose, California, then go to the page you want to create, Category:Downtown San Jose, California and create it following the examples of the other subcategories. Its quite simple, you only have to edit the new page and add [[Category:Neighborhoods of San Jose, California]] to it and save the page. Then the category is created and you can collect files in it, happy editing. --Martin H. (talk) 22:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your clear and cogent help. In spite of this, I made a mistake before I did it right (told you I was a semi-newbie!). I somehow created a bogus page before creating a good one. Within the subcategory Category:Neighborhoods of San Jose, California, I created a page that has an extra "Category:" prefix (it's listed under the letter "C"). I don't know how to delete an unwanted page, can you help again? Thanks. --Bento00 (talk) 23:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
No worries. I've deleted it. In the future if this happens you can add {{speedy|Mistake page}} or something like that. You can describe the reasoning differently, based on the situation. Killiondude (talk) 23:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks 'dude. I see that the spurious page is deleted, but the bad category still shows up on Category:Neighborhoods of San Jose, California. If this won't be taken care of automatically, is there something more to do to complete the process? --Bento00 (talk) 23:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
That must be a temporary problem. A next step is to fill the category with more images if you want, see the search. For this purpose you may test the gadget HotCat, you can activate it in your preferences and it allows you to speedy edit the categories without changing into the edit modus every time. --Martin H. (talk) 23:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Danke Martin, I took your tip about HotCat, and added the new category to many, hopefully appropriate, images. --Bento00 (talk) 00:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
If a change to the categories on a page does not show up on the category pages, sometimes making a null edit to the page can coax the system to update the category page. Also see the links under COM:EIC#Cat for many more tips about categories. --Teratornis (talk) 02:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Deleting a "non-free logo" from Commons

Hi. I am new to wikipedia and commons and in error uploaded an organisation "non-free logo" to commmons instead of direct to wikipedia. How can I now go back and delete the logo I have uploaded, as obviously it's under copyright and is not intended for use or ditribtion by other parties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulaSW (talk • contribs)

Just paste {{db|I uploaded this non-free image on Commons by mistake}}. ZooFari 23:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Moving SSL_handshake_with_two_way_authentication_with_certificates_new.svg


please move SSL_handshake_with_two_way_authentication_with_certificates_new.svg to SSL_handshake_with_two_way_authentication_with_certificates.svg, my account wasn't old enough to upload it under SSL_handshake_with_two_way_authentication_with_certificates.svg right away :)

--Segh (talk) 12:39, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Done. I've histmerg'ed the files. Killiondude (talk) 17:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

What sort of copyright best describes this sort of charitable banner advert? Example from Save the Children - there is a copyright sign at the bottom of the page but they are clearly encouraging people to use it. Is it in the PD or does it come under "Fair use" or does some other rule apply to it? --Payo (talk) 15:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

They encourage and allow to use it in a special context, the files are not free for every kind of reuse (commercial reuse, modification, perpetual permission) and not licensed under a free license. The 88x31 version or any version without the backround image is ineligible for copyright ({{pd-textlogo}}, see Commons:Licensing#Simple design. Everything with the background photo or this b&w pixel cloud (dont know what it shows) is not free and not applicable on Wikimedia projects outside fair use. --Martin H. (talk) 17:40, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Replacing an image

I want to replace File:Barton Swing Aqueduct 11.05.02R.jpg with an edited version that fixes the lack of clarity. What is the best procedure, please? Bridgeplayer (talk) 17:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

You can upload the image under a different filename using the "derivative work from Commons" option in Commons:Upload, or, if it is an undisputed improvement as you say, you can upload it directly over the old file. But you have to wait for 4 days untill you can do this. --Martin H. (talk) 17:32, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


Are images that are not in use on any Wikimedia project allowed? A few months ago I uploaded this image in the hope that some project might find it useful at some point, and I have a few other images which might be usable. Can they be stored on Commons even if they're not actively being used? --Yair rand (talk) 01:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes. I suspect the majority of pictures in Commons are not being used in any Wikipedia article. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

how can I contact a photographer to ask for permission to use their photo (when it states I can with attribution)


I'd like to contact a photographer who has given permission on the wikimedia page which contains her photo to use her photo with attribution as specified by her so that I can find out how she would like for me to attribute the photo to her. How would I go about contacting her to gain this information? I want to be certain that I am attributing credit in her photo precisely as she would want it.

Thanks! --Terry

Please select the link to the photographer on the "File" page for the photograph. You can find a link usually under "Author" or "File History". That will take you to the photographer's userpage. If the photographer allows email, "Email this user" in the "toolbox" in the left menu will work. If not, select the "discussion" tab at the top to go to the photographer's talk page. On the talk page, select "+comment" and type your query in the edit box. Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


I'm learning a new DSLR camera and wondering if these pictures were salvageable for COM:QI?...

Thanks for any suggestions. Wknight94 talk 04:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

There is a Commons:Graphics village pump. If you get no love here, you might try there. --Teratornis (talk) 05:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, I thought I'd looked everywhere for a more appropriate place, but I missed that one. Thanks! Wknight94 talk 01:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Maybe there is one more place to look: Commons:Editor's index to Commons, under COM:EIC#Help. --Teratornis (talk) 01:46, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

How are outdated images removed to leave only current version?

Is WP interested in removing old versions of images that have been updated? I have in mind removal of all but the current version of File:Roll Pitch Yaw.JPG. Brews ohare (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

A better idea would be to convert it to SVG. I don't think Wikimedia Commons ordinarily removes old revisions of a file unless they are instances of vandalism. --Teratornis (talk) 02:14, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Question Regarding Images I Uploaded


I hope this is the right place for this questions. I recently uploaded three files onto the Commons. They were: Jim_McCormick_at_North_Pole_April_18,_1995.jpg‎ Jim_McCorimick_at_AT&T_Park_2000.jpg‎ James_Maxwell_McCormick.jpg‎

Irritatingly, my email chose that moment to go down and it took me awhile to be able to forward the permissions to permissions_commons@ In the interim, there was a note placed on these files that states there is no evidence of permission.

This issue is resolved - at least I am now sure that the email was sent and it does contain permission from the copyright holder, the declaration of consent and links to both the files themselves and the article in which they appear. So, I would like to know if I can get the note removed. This doesn't seem to be something I can do.

There's also one more small problem. There was a typo in one of the filed I uploaded. In Jim McCormick's last name is misspelled in the second file. I put a tag on the image's page yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have had any effect. Perhaps I did not do this properly:

Can you assist? I would appreciate it. Jabailey1 (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

You refer to the {{no permission}} template at the top of each of these images:
The notices are directly editable. Just click the edit tab at the top of the image pages. The procedure you are trying to follow is in COM:OTRS. You tagged the last file for renaming, so all you can do is wait. It doesn't matter much if a filename contains a spelling error, as long as the description is correct. The filename is not visible to most Wikipedia readers, who only look at images displayed in articles without really digging in to see what the image filename is. --Teratornis (talk) 02:06, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
3rd file is now File:Jim McCormick at AT&T Park 2000.jpg. Walter Siegmund (talk) 07:22, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

replacing old image

Can someone replace File:101st Airborne Division helos during Operation Iraqi Freedom.jpg with File:101st Airborne Division helos during Operation Iraqi Freedom-2.jpg? I can't do it with my account --Teethdozen (talk) 21:41, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

That's because your account is new. In a few days your account will be autoconfirmed and then you can upload over an existing file. --Teratornis (talk) 02:10, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
I've merged the histories. The changes were so minor that having a duplicate seemed very unnecessary. Killiondude (talk) 03:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

U.S. Government archives, how to upload and credit documents and images from ...

help! how do i upload stuff i got during a research visit at the "Archives of the Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site of the National Park Service"? they freely provide access to photos, plans and plant lists, asking only that reproductions be credited "Courtesy of Archives..." +++ for example, how do i credit my upload of a scan i made "Oldfields_Border_plantings,_Olmsted_job-6883,_sheet_88,_scanned_11_2007_orig_sz_29x24inch.jpg"? this is not a product by the US government but rather a historic document from a government administered archive. So, is the "Licensing" category "This work is in the public domain in the United States because it is a work of the United States Federal Government" correct?

the Park Service has not been able to digitize these materials yet, and i'd like to link the examples i have to the wiki articles on "Olmsted Brothers" and "Oldfields." --Jeffvonb (talk) 18:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

See Commons:Help desk/Archives/2010Jan#U.S. Government archives, how to upload and credit documents and images from .... --Teratornis (talk) 19:29, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
The issue of copyright has been discussed in a public meeting of the Park Service (search for "copyright").[5] Material published before 1923 is {{PD-OLD}}. Material created by the US Federal Government, but not its contractors, is {{PD-USGov}}. I think that we must assume that File:Oldfields_Border_plantings,_Olmsted_job-6883,_sheet_88,_scanned_11_2007_orig_sz_29x24inch.jpg is protected and permission must be sought from the copyright holder, perhaps the heirs to the Olmsted estate. It may be helpful to discuss this with Superintendent Myra Harrison or Planner Jim O’Connell since they may have initiated similar discussions subsequent to the meeting cited above. I think that Commons would be pleased to host this content since it appears to be in COM:SCOPE, if the licensing problem can be resolved.
Please create a category (Commons:Categories) for documents from the Archives of the Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site and use interwiki links (en:WP:IW) to connect the category to articles on other projects. Walter Siegmund (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
The pdf of the GMP meeting in Sept 2009 was unclear about archive material copyright. Not directly related is policy of the NPS digital image archive [[6]] [[7]] and [[8]] So today I sent a message to the Ntl Park Service archivist in charge of copyright issues at the Olmsted. I should get clarification tomorrow from the NPS regarding posting materials i obtained during my research visit. i'll then need to get some help with creating a Commons category for "interwiki links", please
May i ask a related follow-up question? I have used inter-library loan to borrow microfilms of Olmsted firm correspondence from the Manuscripts Division of the Library of Congress[[9]] . Our local microfilm reading machines can make digital as well as paper copies. I made digital copies since my USB-thumb drive is much more convenient -and cheaper- than several hundred xeroxed pages.
So, is there an existing rule about uploading such Library of Congress manuscripts to Wikimedia Commons? thank you --Jeffvonb (talk) 21:11, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
The archivist in charge of copyright permissions at the NPS Olmsted site replied, "We do own the copyright of Olmsted produced plans and drawings found in our collection and can grant permission to use those images. If the photographs and plans were produced by an outside firm or artist then we do not own the copyright. Should you wish to use any images obtained from our archive please send a list of those images to me and I will verify the citations and provide copyright permission where possible." The wikimedia commons question i need clarification about is if the copyright is held by the National Park Service, then in the "licensing" box when i am uploading an image to Commons, do i select "This work is in the public is a work of the US Federal Government?" or do i apply some other category of licensing?--Jeffvonb (talk) 21:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
See Commons:Image copyright tags visual for examples of what you need - a new template to document the licensing for this class of content. --Teratornis (talk) 02:22, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
It is not public domain because it is copyrighted and is owned by an agency of the Federal Government. Consequently, you must use the COM:OTRS process to request and document the licensing for this content. Be sure to base your query on the Commons:Email_templates. It is important that the archivist understand that for Commons to host this content, the NPS must grant a free license that permits commercial republishing under the conditions that are specified by the license. Once you have that information, we can help you with the copyright tag. Walter Siegmund (talk) 19:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Setting up a category is straightforward. What do you wish to call it? Please see the naming guidance at Commons:Categories. Walter Siegmund (talk) 19:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


I would like to print this photo from Wikimedia commons : , and put it on my office wall . Under which conditions is this possible ?

Thanks in advance,

Dunedain (talk) 18:40, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

See COM:REUSE. If you are not redistributing the photo, I doubt anyone will object if you just print it and put it on your wall. I suppose you could write the license terms on the back of your printout, with a link back to the Commons page, in case someone else should come to possess your printout. You might convey your thanks to the photographer too. --Teratornis (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
You have to attribute somewhere visible. So maybe a note of where you got it, and the name of the author/source on or next to the printout. Killiondude (talk) 22:13, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
You have to do nothing, as long as you do not distribute the prints. If you give them away, see Teratornis's comment. -- smial (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Not correct. When re-using the work or distributing it, you must attribute the work to the author(s) and you must mention the license terms or a link to them. From COM:REUSE (emphasis added). Killiondude (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
But COM:REUSE isn't the license. [10] is the license (unless he'd rather use the GFDL), and as far as I can tell, so long as he's merely Reproducing the image, and not Distributing it, there are no restrictions.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing to that link. Could you perhaps alter the wording of the Commons' reuse page then? I know this type of question has come up several times before (on Commons and other avenues) and I've always told people to attribute, even if it was for personal use (like on posters etc.). I tried to read your link, and I started to doze a bit so I will take your word on it. :-) Killiondude (talk) 06:49, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
While there is de jure no need to attribute anything, if the photo is not distributed, and used only private, it is always fair, to do it even so. -- smial (talk) 10:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

THANKS FOR REPLIES.But please can you be SPECIFIC about attribution and licence text/link: should they be written ON THE FRONT OF THE PRINTOUT (where it is visible, but thus marring the picture inevitably,regardless of font size)OR ON THE BACK ( where it is not visible but still it's there)? Thanks in advance again,

Dunedain (talk) 13:54, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Museums typically use a small label on the picture frame or nearby on the wall. Be sure not to use GFDL-only-images, as the label would be at minimum A4- resp. letter size :-) If you print the attribution to the back side, it is not easily accessable. In my opinion this would not comply to the usual licenses. -- smial (talk) 19:21, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, if the picture is hanging on the original poster's office wall, to be primarily viewed by the O.P., nobody else needs to access the license. That would only be necessary if someone else comes to possess or copy the picture, at which time the next person could look at the back of the picture. Clearly that couldn't be any harder than figuring out the licensing terms on Commons - and on Commons we comply with the licensing, despite how difficult it is for people to figure out the reuse conditions. Given that the O.P. is not distributing the picture, I don't think this has to get harder than necessary. The wikipolice will probably not come knocking. Although I suppose it might matter if the O.P. will be exhibiting the photo to lots of visitors. --Teratornis (talk) 01:56, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
As the O.P. asked the same question twice, I supposed he wants to use the image in an office with many visitors. As I mentioned before: In mostly private surroundings no attribution is necessary. In e.g. a waiting room of a doctor or a corridor in a municipal authority he should do it visible. -- smial (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
As you seem very intent on getting a specific and explicit response, I have to point out that nobody here can give you legal advice, only opinions on how these licenses apply. Even if they're lawyers. :) As it says at Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia, "Please read the full licenses for legal details. Neither the Wikimedia Foundation nor the creators of material on Wikimedia sites provide legal advice. If you need information about how a license applies to your particular situation, you should contact a suitable legal professional in your jurisdiction." Even having a lawyer interpret the license may not get you out of trouble if you do it wrong, but it will go a good sight further than indicating that somebody told you here. That said, I myself would attribute on the front with at least a small note identifying the licensor and the license. If you can't do this discretely within the image, a matte or border around the image could be useful. I agree with smial that the more public the location, the more careful with attribution you need to be; "public performance" does not strike me as very well defined in the CC licenses (but that could just be me.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:30, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of older versions

Would anybody please delete the 1st and 2nd version of File:Toyoshina high school.jpg? It's an image from flickr and these versions are absolutely unnecessary. Thank you. --トトト (talk) 06:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

We don't often delete old versions of files. Sometimes it is useful to see old versions and it doesn't free disk space (to allow for the correction of mistakes). Walter Siegmund (talk) 17:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

SVG rendering problem

I cannot get an image to render properly, part of the text appears jumbled together. Firefox renders the SVG file correctly at the upload URL [11] but File:Respiratory system complete tr.svg does not render as it should. I tried purging the server cache but that did not make a difference. I am using Inkscape on Windows using Arial fonts, if that's relevant. The 200px, 500px, 1000px, 2000px versions of the image on the server are from an earlier version and have not been updated either. Is there a bug in MediaWiki or am I doing something wrong? --InfoCan (talk) 20:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

There is a Commons:Graphics village pump. If you get no love here, you might try there. --Teratornis (talk) 02:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I figured it out myself. It seems that the renderer that MediaWiki uses to create PNG images from SVG images does not handle proprietary fonts. I loaded the open-source "dejavu" fonts to my machine, used them instead of Arial and the image turned out fine. Thanks for the pointing me the Graphics Village Pump. --InfoCan (talk) 14:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

How to change a license

How can I correct a mistake I made on my own images when uploading - having chosen a CC share-alike license version when I did not mean to restrict it? Many thanks! Dcrjsr (talk) 19:25, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

You can edit the image pages to change their license templates to something else. What license do you want to use? For example, you could dual-license them. See COM:EIC#Ctags and Commons:Image copyright tags visual. --Teratornis (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


I wanted to focus only on Fischerhütte in my last contribution - but using PAINT I just could not get rid of the rest of the picture. Sorry to bother you with my ignorance --Robert Schediwy (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Your contributions suggest you might refer to File:Fischerhütte.JPG, although that is not your last contribution but your second to last, at the time you posted your question. Perhaps you could upload your original unedited image over the same filename, and instead of trying to edit the image in Microsoft Paint, use Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator. --Teratornis (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
And see User:Cropbot. --Teratornis (talk) 22:51, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
And Commons:Graphics village pump. --Teratornis (talk) 23:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
@Robert: Lade einfach das unbearbeitete Original drüber, so wie Teratornis das vorschlug und hinterlasse dann eine Notiz in der Fotowerkstatt. Wir kümmern uns dort dann darum :-) -- smial (talk) 01:44, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Freeing up the license on my own file, done as SA by mistake?

{{Is it possible to change the license on a few of my own files that I made more restrictive by mistake? I'd like to have all my images as CC BY, but I accidentally uploaded some with CC BY-SA. I'd really appreciate any help. Dcrjsr (talk) 05:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)}}

Yes, it's possible. CC-BY is less restrictive then CC-BY-SA. Just edit images descriptions and change licenses accordingly. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Merging of categories

I've come across two categories which duplicate each other. What can I do to get them merged? Is there a maintenance template to use to request merger, or is there a place to request it?--User:Belovedfreak (talk) 20:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

You might want to tell us the categories, in the event that you've run across an odd case that would contradict the general advice you will get by not telling us. See COM:EIC#Cat for what should be links to everything about categories on Commons, or at least all the links the users who contribute to the index could find. In the worst case, you would pick one of the categories to keep, recategorize all the files or pages in the other category to be in the category you want to keep, then request deletion for the other category when you have emptied it. You might find HotCat useful for the recategorizing step. --Teratornis (talk) 22:30, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh, thanks for that link. I was having a bit of trouble finding any relevant pages or categories. I'll have a good look at that tomorrow. The categories in question, by the way, are Category:Peel, Man and Category:Peel (Isle of Man). --Belovedfreak (talk) 00:28, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Merged into Category:Peel, Isle of Man --Foroa (talk) 09:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! --Belovedfreak (talk) 21:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


Jatin juneja (talk) 09:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)can we have both the driver and the driven sprocket of same diameter in a bicycleJatin juneja (talk) 09:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

It is straightforward to have this gear combination on a multi-geared bike, for example on a touring bicycle or a mountain bike. Generally a 1:1 gear ratio is very low, for climbing steep hills. The small chainring on a triple-ring crank has a tooth count within the range of large sprocket clusters. See Bicycle gearing and Gear inches. What does your question have to do with Wikimedia Commons? --Teratornis (talk) 19:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

pic posted but unable to locate in Wiki Commons

I posted pic

However, when I log into Wiki Commons and search under fondant wedding cakes or wedding cakes I am unable to locate the image. Is there some step that I am missing so that I can get the pic to come up when the search of fondant wedding cake or wedding cake is done?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitri108 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 26. Jan. 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons is not the english Wikipedia. If you post something on en.wikipedia you won't find it on Commons and vice versa. If you want to find/use that image on Commons you have to upload it to Commons. If you want to use it on several projects by Wikimedia (Wikipedia, Wikisource, Wikiquote,...) you need to either upload it to every project or you upload it to Commons. Second method is prefered. However on en:File:Wedding cake w fondant frosting.jpg is given as source and at the bottom of this page a text says "Copyright 2005 - 2010. All Rights Reserved. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used." I thereby highly doubt that this image is really self-made and anything else than a case for {{copyvio}}. On en:File:Fondant wedding cake.jpg there is an OTRS ticket but I'm not sure if this is a real OTRS-ticket. Even you would have to upload this imge to Commons to find it here I wouldn't do so until the question of copyright is solved...
PS: Please sign you contribution on talk pages with --~~~~
--D-Kuru (talk) 02:30, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

help me please

I found a link that describes about how to get useful and encyclopedian pictures for commons. But now I cant find it. Anybody knows about that? regards. --Ayda (talk) 09:20, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Ideally, all such sources would be in the links under COM:EIC#Free, but there are many sources of free media so you might not find what you saw earlier. What sort of pictures are you trying to find? --Teratornis (talk) 09:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
No! I want take pictures, myself. Any picture that be benefit for wikipedias. I wanna take pictures from anything that may be use here. But I know them should have some limitation like contrast or light. --Ayda (talk) 10:00, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
COM:EIC#Photo. --Teratornis (talk) 19:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. --Ayda (talk) 11:58, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
If you don't find the page you saw earlier, let us know because we would like to list all the relevant instruction pages in the Editor's index, if we can track them down. Also try searching the index with Ctrl+F in your Web browser. Good luck with your photography. --Teratornis (talk) 20:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


I have a question: Since this image just text, can be registered under copyright? if so, can upload it to commons? Note that it is unclear whether the company mentioned really exists.--Ente X (discusión) 23:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

See COM:CB#Trademarks. --Teratornis (talk) 06:20, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Can't see the image I uploaded even though it's shown in my contributions

Hi! I'm new here and trying to upload some images to add to an article that I am working on. I followed all the instructions & uploaded a photo. Everything looks right in my contributions but where the photo is supposed to show at least a thumbnail all I see is a small red x. Getting quite frustrated cuz I've tried everything I know and can't fix it. Please help! The file name is Familiaworoenlasmontañas.jpg. It´s only about 661kb. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ~~~~

Hey there. The file works fine for me. Try purging your cache or refreshing a few times? As a side note, that image probably doesn't adhere to project scope, so it stands a chance at being deleted accordingly. Regards, –Juliancolton | Talk 04:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for helping out. I need the image for an article that I am going to upload so it will be linked and within scope. I tried what you said and still can't see the image in any form. Do my preferences have anything to do with which images I can view? If so, could you tell me what your settings are that see the image and I will duplicate them to see if it works? Thanks again! Sarah W. (talk) 14:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)user:Sarah W.
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Example: File:La familia Woroniecki en los Rockies.jpg - I can't see it either (not in preview nor in full size). -- Deadstar (msg) 15:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
The file used CMYK color space, which some browsers cannot display. I've re-uploaded it using sRGB color space. (My browser did display it, but way oversaturated.) Can you see it now? Lupo 15:46, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Yep, I can see it now anyway (Using IE). -- Deadstar (msg) 16:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, thanks for all the help. I got it figured out. Part of the problem was the CMYK and part was using an image that had already been edited in a non-compatible program, I think. Anyway, I found the original, left it RGB and am having no problems now. Thanks so much! Sarah W. (talk) 18:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

My photos which I took ...

My photos which I took in San Jose, Batangas, Philippines appeared in the Wikipedia; though they were attributed to me, the one who put them never asked for my permission. (posted by User:Cesarcambay)

Please! Wich photos ??? maybe File:Basilica of Taal-front.JPG ??? and please sign your messages with four tildes "~".--JotaCartas (talk) 05:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Uploading image

Hi. I've only just joined commons and would like to upload a picture from my computer. The only thing I can see in connection to my photo is IMG_0004(2). jpg. Is this what I need to upload it? You can probably tell I've never done this before. :) Jack forbes (talk) 15:35, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

First you should rename the photo to a meaningful name. "Wooden Bridge at River BlaFoo.jpg" is much more useful than "IMGP1234.jpg". -- smial (talk) 15:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I'll do that thanks. Jack forbes (talk) 15:54, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

How do I change my icon

how do i change my icon —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 18:19, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

What icon? --Teratornis (talk) 20:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Merging accounts

Hi there. I was hoping someone could help me merge my accounts here. I started editing at Commons under the name Tiamat. My account is Tiamut and when I globalized it, I sometimes get automatically logged in under that name. I can't figure out how to make the two one. Can someone help please? Tiamut (talk) 18:53, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

By "globalized" do you mean you went to Special:MergeAccount and followed the instructions? That's what I did; I had created my account on more than one Wikimedia Foundation wiki separately in the past, and they merged with no problems when I followed the instructions. But I had used the same username everywhere I made an account. What does Special:MergeAccount show you now? If you want to change your username from Tiamat to Tiamut or conversely, see Changing username/SUL. --Teratornis (talk) 20:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the tips. I recall having gone to MergeAccount, but I'll try again and see what happens. If that doesn't work, I'll try your second suggestion. Very helpful, thank you. Tiamut (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Symbol fonts in inkscape svg

In File:Onarpenerako06.svg I put alfa and betha greek letters, with symbols font, instead of a and b. Why do they appear a and b and not alfa and bheta? Thank you.12:43, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Joxemai4 (talk)

Most likely you are using some font unsupported by mediawiki. Dirty workaround would be to convert your letters to paths (outlines} --Justass (talk) 12:51, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Better solution is to use the UNICODE greek letters for a font supported by MediaWiki, rather than the Symbol TrueType font. Powers (talk) 16:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


I am working as associate prof in an educational institution i would like to write some topic and add in the wikipidia . kindly inform me the procedure for upload and editing in historical events of Central training College lahore which was eshtabished in 1880. and started first session in 1881.[[Media:]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 03:53, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

If you refer to the English Wikipedia, and if you refer to Lahore in Pakistan, start by reading all the existing articles linked from Template:Schools in Lahore. Join WikiProject Pakistan. Read WP:YFA, WP:LAYOUT, everything linked from Template:Welcome, and WP:TMM. --Teratornis (talk) 04:07, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Upload count

I think I've uploaded some 2000 pictures, but on what page can I see my count? Jim.henderson (talk) 05:59, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Click "My Contributions" at the top right of this page, and then "Edit count" at the bottom of the subsequent page. If you want to see all the pictures, go pictures--JotaCartas (talk) 06:39, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks but I'm failing to bring up the Edit Count page. Is it me, or is this feature broken today? Jim.henderson (talk) 16:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
It works for me. You have uploaded 2125 images. Pruneautalk 17:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
The problem appears to be intermittent. For a couple hours before before saying so, I couldn't reach the page. An hour after user:Pruneau answered, it worked, but now it again does not. Anyway, thank you both, because at least now I know my procedure was corrct, and constant access to up-to-date counts is a luxury I can get along without. Jim.henderson (talk) 19:39, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Another useful tool   ■ MMXX  talk  16:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Excellent; thanks. Not only is it prettier, but it actually worked for me a few minutes ago when the regular one didn't. Jim.henderson (talk) 17:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

How include Ogg file in English Wikipedia?

How do I include an audio (Ogg Vorbis) file in an article in the English Wikipedia? If the audio file was not in Wikipedia commons then I would use the {{listen}} template. However, this requires the filename to be entered without the leading "File:", so that if I add the "commons:" prefix then the template tries to play the file "File:commons:filename.ogg". This file, of course, does not exist. If I just include the link [[commons:File:filename.ogg]] then the file exists, but there is no play bar for people to actually play the file. Er ... 01:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Use only file name without any prefix File: or commons: like this: {{Listen |filename=filename.ogg |title=Title |description=Description}}. See Wikipedia:Creation_and_usage_of_media_files#Audio_usage -Justass (talk) 01:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

upload a new version

how long have i to wait to upload a new version of a file? i want to upload a new version i worked a lot on, but i want to upload it by myself, so waht can i do, because there is sayen i am to new. --Apsomol (talk) 11:54, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

you can only do this if your account is older than 4 days, but you have created your account just today, by the way could you please tell us which file you want upload it's new version, if it is for improvement or similar, I suggest you upload a new file and then link them together.   ■ MMXX  talk  15:51, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I got lost on my way from Wikipedia and also forgot to add a section header

Hi, I was looking at the Writer's stubs and did not see one for "humor writers" I am a member of the Erma Bombeck Writer's Workshop (University of Dayton) and many of our members are humorists and syndicated columnists, who do not already have a bio here. How do we input our stub information and get an appropriate category created? Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosevalenta (talk • contribs)

  • Hi. This is Wikimedia Commons, where we store image files. You probably got lost while browsing Wikipedia. We can't help with Wikipedia too much over here. I would suggest, however, that since Wikipedia is a wiki, that if an article doesn't exist that you would like you could create it. They do have some rules on conflict of interest and notability you may want to read first. If you have any more questions you should ask them over there since we have no control over what articles Wikipedia has. -Nard the Bard 17:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)