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New Category Required?

I uploaded a group of stylized representations of graphic objects that are associated with the Dorabella Cipher (on Wikipedia). The purpose of some has yet to be identified, others are known and documented. The materials were created by me and uploaded in preparation for modifications to a Wikipedia entry on the cipher (I'm working on parts of it in my sandbox there).

I left the category entry blank because I'm not sure whether they warrant a new category all to themselves. The DoraBella Cipher is listed under "History of cryptography | Uncracked codes and ciphers" in Wikipedia (no such category exists in Wikimedia) but these graphics are specific to the Dorabella Cipher and relate to no other, to the best of my knowledge.

Any guidance gratefully received. PeterBrooks (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if it's worth uploading, it's worth categorizing. They should be categorized in a new Category:Dorabella Cipher or else a new Category:Uncracked codes and ciphers, either of which should be a subcategory of Category:History of cryptography. My own preference would be for the wider uncracked cat, in part because it corresponds precisely to a category in en Wikipedia. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
OK, thanks. That begs a follow-up question :) Since these items are highly specific - to the Dorabella Cipher alone (which has an entry in Wikipedia - I obviously got my embed wrong because it didn't work, so it appeared that the highest applicable category is Uncracked codes and ciphers) - should the category be something at a lower level?
The cipher itself is obviously part of the category of Uncracked codes and ciphers, but the unique symbols IMHO should be part of a new lower category - perhaps Cipher-Related Symbols - since there are at least two sets of symbols, only one of which relates directly to the cipher (i.e., the cusp-like symbols that are mapped to the letters of a 24 character alphabet).
The other set has only been seen on a page in an exercise book owned by Sir Edward Elgar, a page that also contains sample cipher to alphabet mappings and test encodings. The suspicion is that they are an attempt at creating a visual mnemonic - a way of indicating, somewhere in the proximity of a coded message, the steganographic manipulation of the arrangement of cipher symbols used to prepare the message.
In the case of the Dorabella Cipher, only one side of the ciphered note was ever published (the other side was simply described), but the note is known to have accompanied a separate letter from Elgar's wife. The note was for Dora Penny, the letter for her step-mother.
It and the original ciphered note have apparently been mislaid, but the possibility exists that Elgar may have doodled a symbol on his wife's letter or the envelope containing both items (something he was prone to do) and the doodle would have been unremarkable, except to anyone aware of the purpose and function of the visual mnemonic.
I just want to be sure that I create the categories correctly. I propose "History of cryptography | Uncracked codes and ciphers | Dorabella Cipher | Cipher-Related Symbols".
Any further thoughts? PeterBrooks (talk) 18:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Uploading Fonts?

Related to my question about categories for the Dorabella Cipher-related graphics, I created a (free) rough-and-ready TTF font that provides the symbols for that same cipher. I had a scout round to see whether Wikimedia catered for font uploads but couldn't see anything.

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?

Again, guidance gratefully received. PeterBrooks (talk) 12:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello! I don't think any Wikimedia site allows TTF uploads. You can see COM:PS/FT for a list of allowable file types on Commons. There's also COM:FT. Hope those links help! Killiondude (talk) 17:48, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for responding. I had a strong feeling that there might be a gap in the Wikimedia Foundation's projects, but wasn't absolutely certain. It does look as though there is no repository for fonts; I'll contact the Foundation and see if there's any plan (or even support) for something akin to a Wikifoundry. PeterBrooks (talk) 18:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Just an FYI - I contacted the Foundation and have received a suggestion as to a course of action. Thanks for taking the time to try to answer my query. PeterBrooks (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Deleting a file


I wanted to delete a file (old and new versions) because of problems on uploading. How is this possible ?

Thank you

Katecmoi (Comment by: Katecmoi)

Which file and what is the problem?   ■ MMXX  talk  23:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, it is the file named "Carte_de_France_sites+logistique_cyan.jpg". After uploading it, the image is not viewable. I also tried to upload an newer version and I got the same problem. Kind Regards, Katecmoi. 08:42, 2 February 2010
I can view it ok. You have uploaded it three times, the third version is darker than the first two. Maproom (talk) 10:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Can't see new version

I have uploaded a new version of a file, File:UserDaanschrCaesar2.png, on the English Wikipedia, and it doesn't show. I still see the old version. I can't find the appropriate help desk on Wikipedia, so i try it here.--Daanschr (talk) 21:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Purge server cache by this link [1] and then refresh your browser cache (CTRL+F5) --Justass (talk) 21:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!--Daanschr (talk) 09:33, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Obraz_156.jpg or railway station in Grodzisk Wielkopolski

Could someone delete this file? It's my private photo.It was mistake. Thank you! Bialo-zielony (talk) 17:35, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure! In the future, you could add a {{speedy}} tag to it, saying why you'd like it deleted, rather than setting up a DR. Killiondude (talk) 17:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

A question that had no heading

Hello, I am a newbie in Wikipedia, I would like to upload my text and picture, my own creation (biography) I have chosen my license, but the explanation for uploading are only decipherable for hackers or professional editors. I have tried on many occasion, but to no avail.... Can I get somehow some help for uploading without having to conform to 15 pages of details of do and don't and getting nowhere. I would be very grateful for any help I can get. Thank you in advance. Nibirulilu — Preceding unsigned comment added by BFddaRow (talk • contribs)

If you are trying to create a new article on Wikipedia, it will probably be deleted. Very few new users come to Wikipedia understanding all the complex rules for what is allowable there. You have to read a lot more than 15 pages to have any idea of what is going on with these projects. It is much better to learn by making small edits to already existing articles, and then see what other editors do to your edits. In the meantime, anyone can create a biography on Wikibios. For a biography to be acceptable on Wikipedia, it must be about a notable person, and you should not create an article about yourself. The various Wikimedia Foundation projects like the Wikipedias, and Commons, are free to use because they rely on the ability and willingness of users to teach themselves by reading our friendly manuals. This keeps the costs very low because everybody can follow the same instructions and thereby avoid wasting each other's time. People who do not like to read manuals often do not have a satisfying outcome from editing here. --Teratornis (talk) 03:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Copyright double check

Hi Commons, I just wanted to confirm that the first image on [2] (soldier in coat on the right) is in the public domain. It was created c. 1901, so it is in the public domain in Canada, where I assume it was first published (article appeared in Canadian Medical Association Journal and taken from a Canadian historical place), and in the Philippines (where the image was first created), the image is also in the public domain. However, is the image in the public domain in the United States? I don't know when the image was first published, and the US doesn't use creation date, rather publication date. Could somebody please help? Thanks! JulieSpaulding (talk) 12:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

A better place to ask might be Media copyright questions or Commons talk:Licensing. --Teratornis (talk) 03:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

How to publish a wikimedia commons image in wikipedia

I have made an animation to illustrate inductive heating, uploaded that animation to wikimedia commonas, and can find no information whatsoever on how to have the image viewable on the page I am attempting to add the image to.

How is this done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borkboing (talk • contribs) 15:46, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Please read Embedding Commons' media in Wikipedia articles --Justass (talk) 21:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, read it again. What is the code/text to use to insert a wikicommons image into a wikipedia entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borkboing (talk • contribs) 15:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Atomic large.gif|right|thumb|150px|Your caption goes here.]] would be the standard method. See Picture tutorial. Depending on the article you are editing, there might be an infobox template which displays an image, and you might use that instead. Since you did not tell us the article you want to edit, we cannot give you the most exact answer. --Teratornis (talk) 03:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
In case it's not clear, you use the exact same code to display an image from Commons in a Wikipedia article as you would if the image was on the same Wikipedia instead. That's what computer geeks call "transparent". --Teratornis (talk) 03:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Adding a category to an image, Second go-round.

Instructions provided have no functionality. They tell clearly what needs to be done, but nowhere is included instructions on what links to use to change an image from un-categorized to categorized.

Again, I can read. Please do not re-use the same pages to give me the same information. Spell out exactly and specifically what links are to be used, and what steps taken.

I am frustrated at understanding what needs to be done, but no user-friendly way of effecting this change. There is no link, no button, no instructions of any kind. I have read the letter (see below), followed every link and read every word. I have read the similar faqs in the archives, and the most they say is to "add the information and save the page"... add where? add how? what page? how do I get to said page? I have logged in, been to every page, NOTHING IS EDITABLE!!!


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The bot asked you to edit the file description page and add a category following the instructions on how to add a category. You can add a category by adding the text [[Category:Foo]] to the image description page. To add this text to the image description page you have to edit it. So go to the image description page, File:Atomic large.gif, click on edit, add the category text to bottom of the page and klick on save. Thats the very basic funcionality of a wiki, everything is editable. --Martin H. (talk) 03:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
P.s: First you must look for an appropriate category of course, a suggestion might be some subcategory of Category:Stoves? --Martin H. (talk) 03:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

reusing images CC-BY-SA on my site

here: [3] it is left out text "in the manner specified by author", from original license.

So, do I have to ask each author how to make attribution or it can be said: If there are no extra demands on wikimedia comons(like here: [4]) then it can be assumed that putting (next to image) author name and link back to his/her wikimedia commons page is sufficient ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BubikolRamios (talk • contribs)

The latter. The attribution is required in the way the copyright holder specified it, if no specification was made you can attribute the author in a way to the best of your knowledge (...without implying that he supports your publication and so on, thats written in other parts of the full license texts). But: The cc-by-SA license, the SA, ShareAlike requires besides the attribution that you indicate the license. See Commons:Credit_line#CC-BY and CC-BY-SA licenses for suggested credit lines. Additional, you pointed to File:Lophophanes cristatus Luc Viatour 5.jpg, the "I" in "I, Luc Viatour" is the result of a template error, should be fixed, of course you are not asked nor suggested to attribute "I, Luc Viatour" ;) --Martin H. (talk) 03:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

trying to open a PUBLISHER ending .pub file

A friend sent me a file from PUBLISHER ending .pub I am simply trying to open the file. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patricia9 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

This help desk is a forum for questions and help on How to use Commons, this project! is your place to go. --Martin H. (talk) 03:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Would like to close my account

How can I delete my images and close my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mezza (talk • contribs)

You can't. When you uploaded your images, you released them under a free license that is irrevocable. But why did you change your mind so quickly, anyway? You only uploaded those files yesterday. Powers (talk) 13:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
This topic was started as a request for rename, so only in case you thought a complete restard would be the easier sollution: No, accounts will not be deleted and uploads unlikely as LtPowers said. You can ask for rename at Commons:Changing username, thats the easiest sollution if you dont like your selected name. --Martin H. (talk) 15:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Editing the image's name

Dear Administrators,

I am asking for your advice. Last year I placed nine images for a singer Arnold Azrikan, and they are in use which is fine but I have noticed that four images out of nine don't have a proper title (it should have the name "Azrikan" before the role's name). I would like to remove these four images and upload them again with a new title for a better usage. I would be very grateful if you tell me how to do it. I remember that last year I tried to do the same with two images (Andrii and Vakula) and then I created a mess which resulted in a long written exchange between you and me, and I was sorry to take so much time from you. I will watch your response, thanks a lot. --Rozochka (talk) 01:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

See the FAQ: COM:FAQ#How can I rename/move an image or other media file? - follow the instructions in Commons:File renaming to have the file renamed. --Martin H. (talk) 03:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
      • Many thanks for your prompt reply. I am not a computer guru but will do my best to follow all instructions, thanks.--Rozochka (talk) 15:30, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
My first step was to find out where exactly on the discussion page I should place my request for renaming the file. While I could not find the answer to this question I was shocked to see on the description of the image Mazepa.jpg linked to the "usage on" showing Azrikan's photo from our family archives as a painting from the Stockholm's museum!!!! Wow, what a terrible thing to see. Now we all can see how important the renaming is. I am going to place our request for the renaming the files which don't have the name Azrikan upfront to avoid future mistakes but this particular mistake must be immediately corrected. It is not an unknown painting but the photo of an opera singer Arnold Azrikan from the National Opera and ballet theater of Ukraine, Kiev (late 1930's years). What do I need to do to clarify the image given on a wrong Mazepa?!thanks.--Rozochka (talk) 16:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
You have to place the rename request directly on the file description page. The usage in ru.wikipedia is on some talkpage, they once had some other image uploaded localy to ru.wp with the same name which was used in this talk - - which was deleted in the meantime. Thats nothing to correct on Commons but simply on ru.wp. --Martin H. (talk) 16:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks I will try to place my request tonight. As for ru.wp mess: should I ask for deletion there?--Rozochka (talk) 21:30, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
I placed my request about the images' renaming. What is my next step? Thanks a lot. Dina--Rozochka (talk) 14:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Book Cover

I am trying to upload a book cover for an article. I would think that book covers would be a non-free fair use image. This option wouldn't let me upload it. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alltheold (talk • contribs) 02:29, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Not upload it. On Commons, this project, fair use material is not allowed. --Martin H. (talk) 02:48, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I realize that. However similar book covers have been uploaded. EX. (talk) 13:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that file is uploaded locally to the english Wikipedia en:File:Do_Not_Open.jpg, not to Commons File:Do_Not_Open.jpg. On other projects fair use is handled different. --Martin H. (talk) 14:09, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
See Non-free content criteria for what you can do on the English Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Another difficult commons transfer

This time the image is File:Thurmond C&O Station from inside Amtrak's Cardinal.jpg. I tried to upload it, and the tool said "This file does not exist." ----DanTD (talk) 22:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe because of the »&« or »'«? Dont know, have you tried "Thurmond_C%26O_Station_from_inside_Amtrak%27s_Cardinal.jpg" or "Thurmond C&O Station from inside Amtrak's Cardinal.jpg"? --Martin H. (talk) 22:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
No I haven't. I'll give it a shot. ----DanTD (talk) 00:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
UPDATE: It didn't work. ----DanTD (talk) 00:46, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Strange. With the Move-to-commons assistant I had no problem, see File:Thurmond C&O Station from inside Amtrak's Cardinal.jpg. --Martin H. (talk) 01:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Let me guess; You put it in the top column, didn't you? ----DanTD (talk) 01:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I only entered the filename Thurmond C&O Station from inside Amtrak's Cardinal.jpg to the filename, my username and tusc password, checked the direct upload check-box and uploaded it. --Martin H. (talk) 01:35, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Union City, NJ seal

I was given a copy of the city seal of Union City, New Jersey, and permission to use it in the UC article on Wikipedia, by City Hall. I scanned it, but I don't know what license to use in uploading it. Can you respond on my Wikipedia Talk Page? I don't spend as much time on the Commons. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 05:51, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Permission to use something on the English Wikipedia is insufficient for uploading to Commons. See COM:L#Acceptable licenses. If whoever gave you the seal will agree to release it under a free content license such as {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}, get their permission in email and follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. If they will not license it freely, then you can upload the seal to the English Wikipedia under a fair use criterion. Commons does not accept fair use. --Teratornis (talk) 22:21, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
So who's permission do I need? If it belongs to the city, who's the owner, at least for purposes of permission? Do I need the mayor, or is one of the higher-ups at City Hall sufficient? Please leave message here. Nightscream (talk) 00:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I do not know who owns the copyright to the image. It will either be the artist who created the image, or it is a Work for hire, in which case whoever paid the artist will own the copyright. Presumably someone at the city government can tell you. Most people are not familiar with copyright law, so you may have to ask some number of people in the city government to get a definitive answer. Remember that the Help desk does not give legal advice. If you are concerned about liability you may want to consult an attorney. --Teratornis (talk) 09:22, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Which Fair Use criterion do I use for a city seal? Nightscream (talk) 19:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Beats me. I've never uploaded any fair use images. If nobody here knows, you could ask at Media copyright questions since fair use is a factor on Wikipedia but not on Commons. I'm sorry that I don't know an easy way. The fault lies with politicians who gave us copyright laws. --Teratornis (talk) 20:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Please use the Commons:Email templates. Your contact at City Hall will choose the free license. Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:06, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
The problem with that is twofold: First, I don't know if the person in question would choose a Free License over say, a Fair Use template when uploading it to Wikipedia directly, since Fair Use would allow everyone to use it, and I'm not sure they'd want that, given how circumspect they were in vetting my request.
Second, you need to understand that not everyone is a Wikipedian, and understands all the ins and outs of how Wikipedia works, its templates, rules, upload procedures, etc. I've tried getting people who I thought were extremely intelligent, knowledgeable and computer saavy to upload an image that they own to illustrate an article, because doing it myself resulted in it being deleted, and they found the entire email/upload process too arcane and intimidating to figure out. (Hell, look at me: I've been an editor for 5 years, an administrator for over two, and have uploaded hundreds of pics to the Commons, and I can't make heads or tails of this particular area! :-) ) This is why I came here. Can someone please tell me which Fair Use template he should use so I can tell him? Nightscream (talk) 16:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay, but this isn't a Wikipedia. What fair use options there are depends on which Wikipedia you're uploading to, and there's no reason to assume that we on Commons will be familiar with the fair use licensing of a foreign project.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:20, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

What foreign project? It's the city seal of Union City, New Jersey on the English Wikipedia. Nightscream (talk) 15:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Foreign to Commons, not foreign in the sense of "a different country". A lot of the people here have very little interaction with English Wikipedia, which is a separate project. Powers (talk) 15:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Alright. Which free license would be appropriate for a municipal city seal? Nightscream (talk) 21:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
That's not for you or I to say; it's entirely up to the copyright holder whether to release it under a free license. You can ask, but I wouldn't hold your breath. If you want to use it on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use, ask there, not here. Powers (talk) 20:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I know it's up to the copyright holder. I already asked the official at City Hall if he'd release it under a free license, and he indicated that he would. Which one should I indicate to him would be the appropriate one for a municipal seal? Nightscream (talk) 20:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} is a good general choice. --Teratornis (talk) 19:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Daphne Akhurst

Hello, I was wondering since Daphne Akhurst died in 1933 that this picture from this site might be now in the public domain, which here is the link [Daphne Akhurst photo]?Bluedogtn (talk) 20:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

This goes to the note line in Australia public domain. If this is correct can I have an Admin upload the pic and tell me on User talk:Bluedogtn, when it is done?Bluedogtn (talk) 21:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Carefull, the 70 years term is not related in any way to the death of the subject but the death of the author. We need an authors name or live data or we need the first publication to determine whether the image was published anonymously or not. --Martin H. (talk) 21:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but the photo was taken before 1955, which means it is in the public domain regardless of the authors death or not!Bluedogtn (talk) 21:41, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Your right, I missed that last sentence. If we have evidence that its country of origin is australia, so first published in australia or taken by australian, it might be ok under that pd reason. --Martin H. (talk) 22:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Immaculate Conception Academy of Manila (Logo)

I have found an image of our school's logo from Google Images Search and I want to upload it to Commons but I don't know if to what copyright it will be subjected beacause it only says below:

"The image below was found by Google Image Search and may be subject to copyright."

Please help me. Thank you very much.

--Thirdeyerevo (talk) 15:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

See Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle - in general, assume a media file is not free content unless we can prove it is free. The great majority of files resulting from a Google Images search are not free and thus not suitable for Commons. Most of the world is either not yet aware of free content licensing, or rejects the idea. However, some logos are too simple to be copyrightable; see COM:CB#Trademarks. For non-free content you can try to follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. If you want more specific advice, give us a link to the image you found. --Teratornis (talk) 18:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Category for screenshots and drawings used in WIKIs of "French Wiktionary HELP"

When I uploaded the images, referenced on my page of discussion (and it will follow even more) I was aware of the problem, not having to categorized them. BUT I COULD NOT FIND a fitting Category or Category brach.
May I ask you to help me, for you it's surely a simple thing. And if I once get ahead ... (My problem is getting into the categories and their branches, understandig the struchture. This seems to me not to be simply and clearly explainded.) NoX (talk) 15:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Such screenshots can go in Category:French Wiktionary. Pruneautalk 17:06, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
OK, thanks Pruneau, I've put them in both categories: [[Category:Wiktionary screenshots]] [[Category:French Wiktionary]] fait NoX (talk) 10:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion backlog

Over at en.wikipedia, a featured article review is waiting for a resolution to these two deletion requests, which were filed on January 12. I see from this page that the deletion backlog goes much further back than this, but if it's not too much trouble, could someone please close these discussions so that the featured article review can proceed? Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk) 04:47, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Incidentally, there also seems to be some sort of problem with this page; it's not displaying the days after January 9. I don't have any idea what the problem is or how to fix it. —Josiah Rowe (talk) 04:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, i hate this month logs - you made me klick on it *grr* ;) That page is too large, the number of included subpages exceeds the en:Wikipedia:Template limits inclusion limit. As a funny note, at least I was found it very amusing: The collection of templates relatd to en:Barack Obama (some people also call that an article) had the same problem after the inclusion of the nobel price winners template, en:Talk:Barack_Obama/Archive_63#Numbers of template :) --Martin H. (talk) 07:47, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Punctuation in image captions

Should image captions end in periods or should the punctuation be omitted? SharkD  Talk  04:26, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

See Captions. --Teratornis (talk) 00:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Image file replacement

The existing file Yaw_Axis.svg of aircraft rotation conventions showed roll axis rotations in the wrong direction (see for example). I have prepared a corrected version and uploaded it to Yaw_Axis_Corrected.svg (I couldn't replace the old file because my account is too new). Please move it to replace the previous file. Thanks! Jrvz (talk) 01:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

new subcategory


  • How I can make a new Subcategory in the Category:Painters from Ukraine?, under M. I have uploaded a few pics from paintings from the lady painter Anastasiya Markovich, but they are now in the Media in category "Painters from Ukraine".
  • How I bring then the pics in this new subcategory?

-- KJL 68 Watchdog 13:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Look at random images and see, how images are sorted to categories (with the text [[Category:...]] on the file description), add an appropriate category to the file, create the category page and add categories to the category page to make it a subcategory, remove the higher level catetgories from the image to prevent COM:OVERCAT. See Commons:Categories, look out for examples in other person categories. --Martin H. (talk) 04:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)


Please move Ireland-AtlanticOceanwithAranIsland2.jpg to Ireland-AtlanticOceanwithAranIsland.jpg (unsigned comment by User:Fabiog82)

Is this a joke? Or I have to understand this????

-- KJL 68 Watchdog 19:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

The user forgot to add a section headding, his posting is not related to your above question. Concerning the Ireland image: See Commons:File renaming. --Martin H. (talk) 04:13, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

How do I ...

how do I upload my image and place it on my article - the article has not been saved yet. (unsigned comment by User:Gary reals)

See Commons:First steps please. --Martin H. (talk) 04:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

uploading jpeg image


I can't seem to get the color to show up after upload. The thumbnails appear black and white. The image is a color scan of a color slide. The scan was a TIFF and I changed from TIFF to jpeg in Photoshop to upload to WCommons. Tried checking "Use embedded profile" when saving and that did not help. Ideas?

BrucePL BrucePL (talk) 22:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks colorful to me. If this is a scan of one of your photographic slides, it'd be great if we could get an even higher resolution scan if possible, but this already looks good. Dcoetzee (talk) 23:30, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Must be my browser (Safari 4). But from Photoshop I "Saved for Web" as a png, and that shows full color and is now on Wikipedia:The Billboard page. BrucePL (talk) 00:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

No source license

One of my images, File:Kronshtadt1.jpg, has gotten tagged for no source data. However, I clearly specified that it was a US Naval Historical Center photograph, with the catalog number, and that it was a captured Luftwaffe reconnaissance photograph. User:High Contrast has failed to respond on his talk page to my query and I do not know what else to do.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

You say the image was created by the Luftwaffe? So the license tag "created by an employee of the U.S. Navy" can hardly applie. If it was created in 1941 by the, I suppose german, Luftwaffe it cant be public domain in the country of origin (70 years pma). The image might be labled as public domain by the U.S. government, maybe seized enemy property or whatever, but if it is created by german forces it is not in the public domain. --Martin H. (talk) 04:11, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Not in the public domain in Germany and hence for Common's purposes. It is in the public domain elsewhere, like the US and Iran.--Prosfilaes (talk) 15:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

بناء مسجد

يبحث الناس على التبرع لبناء مسجد جميلة من إخواننا المؤمنين شكرا لكم مقدما. يمكن الاتصال بي على البريد الالكتروني (unsigned comment by User:Abdula)

Hi, are you asking for donations to build a mosque??!! well you are in wrong place, Wikimedia Commons is not a charity, if I am correct then your whole account and user page are out of scope. (this should be checked by an Arabic user)   ■ MMXX  talk  23:40, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I cannot log in with my normal username.

I have been a regular editor on wp since 2004. My username there is 20040302. commons does not recognise me or allow me to login with that username, or create that username. Obviously, I have been using the username since before the username restrictions came into existence. Help? ( 13:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC))

Okay I had to unify my account on wp, and now everything is fine. (20040302 (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2010 (UTC))
Welcome to Commons. Thanks for answering your own question. I can imagine no 20040302 wants to be mistaken for a --Teratornis (talk) 03:34, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

how do i put pictures on my file.

how do i put pictures on my fileCzimmerman (talk) 16:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I couldn't understand what you need exactly but perhaps reading Commons:First steps will help you.   ■ MMXX  talk  23:42, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
If you want to know how to display images in a Wikipedia article, try Picture tutorial. If none of these answers help, tell us a little more about what you mean by "pictures" and "file". What pictures? Who made them? Where are the pictures now? Do they even exist yet? Where do you want them to be? --Teratornis (talk) 03:37, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Some old picture

Excuse me, the pic of which you are making so much questioning unto me, is a very old pic running through the net for over 20 years or so, taken from some old books who don't have copyright no more: can you please put a common grant in my stead? I'm unable to find the corresponding warranty. I find grotesque all these problems for a stupid pic! Please corect the problema and notify me. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BCtl (talk • contribs) 22:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

You forgot to sign your message and to give it a heading. I will take a look at the file, but remember: Copyright expires 70 years after the authors death, something like "its all over the internet" is not accepted, see COM:PRP for some very simple words on this. --Martin H. (talk) 22:36, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Looked at it. First: Noone has asked you any question regarding copyrights, so what do you mean? You were asked on your talkpage only to categorize the file. But now I looked at File:Poggiapipe indiano.jpg: This is not a reproduction of 2D artwork. This is a reproduction of a reproduction of 3D artwork, the person who initially created the photograph of this artwork gains copyright for his work, if this photo is from 1964 it is likely not public domain. The license template is clearly wrong. Lets ignore all scanning and photocopy, concentrate on the only creative work, the work of making the photograph: Who is the photographer? When was the photo created, Where was it first published? --Martin H. (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Flickr images with permission

I have had several users from Flickr give permission for their images to be used on Commons under the CC-BY-SA license, although on Flickr the images are All rights reserved. The users themselves know of Creative Commons and agree to their images being released as such, so what can I do? Wikiwoohoo (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

The easiest solution is for these users to change the licensing on Flickr. If they won't do that, follow COM:OTRS. --Teratornis (talk) 01:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

How do I find a photo of Sydney harbour bridge & operahouse at least 10 megapix.?

Hi there, we are looking for a photo of the Sydney harbour bridge and opera house to be use on a sublimated shirt. We are a veterans Rugby Union Team and we will be producing around 25 shirts. The manufacturer of the shirts requires a photo that is at least 10megapixels. Would you have anything suitable for us? Cheers Suzy

You can use, enter both categories in the categories field (Sydney Harbour Bridge in the first line, line break, Sydney Opera House in the second line). The result of this category interesection comes with image size, I found nothing really suitable. The result of course depends on the quality of categorization, so its better to browse both categories, Category:Sydney Opera House and Category:Sydney Harbour Bridge manually. If you find one image in one category that also shows the other subject but is not categorized you may add the category to help improving the categorization ;) --Martin H. (talk) 02:12, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Upload and overwrite file with same name?

I tried to upload an image called "Decoration.jpg". The page said, "Warning... has been deleted ... overwrite... the same file name..." I can't remember the exact wording. I clicked a button with the cancel function. Has that image with the same name been deleted? Please undo it. I did _not_ intend to overwrite this image with the same name. At last, I used a different name to upload my image. By the way, what should I do to prevent the same accidental deletion? --Radiier (talk) 03:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

That file name is empty, and your image uploads list does not seem to include such a file name. So I think you're good. Just hit cancel as you did or click back on your browser to return to the upload form. ZooFari 03:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Class Photo

I have a photo of my 1965 third grade class that I would like to make public use. It is my photo that I purchased, but it was taken by the school photographer. There is no copyright on it. Can I upload this? My initial try did not prove successful. TwoScarsUp (talk) 03:55, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I think you mean there is no copyright notice on it. In this case it's most likely {{PD-US-no notice}}. However, take a look at Commons:Project scope - we only accept files that serve a legitimate educational purpose, so it'd be helpful if you could think about what it would help illustrate. Dcoetzee (talk) 05:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Categories for Wiktionary pronunciation audio files

A bot tells me apparently I have "images" that need categories. Well, no, they're audio files for English entries on Wiktionary. What categories do I need to put them under? Cheers. Tooironic (talk) 11:06, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

See Category:English pronunciation and subcategories. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

California Booking Photos

What is the licensing on booking photos from California State prisons? Proxy User (talk) 04:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

It depends where the photos come from in particular. ZooFari 01:39, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
A search for "booking photo" finds some examples, such as File:Rush Limbaugh.jpg. Evidently Florida does not copyright its booking photos. California might be different, if we can judge from this fair use image on the English Wikipedia, File:Edmund Kemper.jpg. --Teratornis (talk) 01:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
California's copyright policy on their websites is a vague "maybe be copyrighted". Anything published before 1989 is most likely ok as very few state published materials came with a proper copyright notice as required under the old copyright statutes and were registered with the copyright office. -Nard the Bard 21:09, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

about my page account in facebook

please help me to back my settings because a black page occur in my account at facebook when i want to play poker...pleaese help me with this problem

This is the Help desk of Wikimedia Commons, this is not the facebook help desk or the help desk on how to play online poker! Read the instructions of you poker game and make sure, that you system has the necessary software (maybe Java, maybe some flashplayer). --Martin H. (talk) 11:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
You could also ask on Reference desk/Computing, but how did you get the idea that this question belongs on Wikimedia Commons? --Teratornis (talk) 00:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Please move File:Corporal_punishment_in_Europe.NEW.svg to File:Corporal_punishment_in_Europe.svg

When trying to update File:Corporal_punishment_in_Europe.svg, I get told my account is "too new" and I have to upload under a different name and ask you to to move it afterwards. Please do that. Thanks in advance.

Description of change to appear in "File history": Luxembourg should be green according to [[5]]

See Commons:Autoconfirmed users. --Teratornis (talk) 19:55, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

licensing question

I have a question regarding licensing. I'd like to ask the United States Naval Institute to donate digital media of the USMC Art collection, but I'm not sure if thier Online Photo Licensing policies are compatable with Commons's needs. Specifically, Commons:Licensing states that "Republication and distribution must be allowed. Publication of derivative work must be allowed. Commercial use of the work must be allowed. The license must be perpetual (non-expiring) and non-revocable." I also note that use cannot be restricted by to Wikimedia only or Noncommercial/Educational use only... only a handful of these images are PD, the rest have a copyright held by the USNI. Are there any other considerations I should take before making this request? Is there some sort of specific license that may be the best for both our needs and the USNI's? Bahamut0013 (talk) 23:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Requesting copyright permission might provide something useful. --Teratornis (talk) 19:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

datsun 160j kp 710

diar sir i interest apout this model one hood and one pumber and some ells spair parts this car if to can help me thanks best regarts jim

Are you astray? --Teratornis (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

St Ludwig Ansbach

I found an image on your site: Deutsch: St Ludwig Ansbach, Statue des Heinrich 11. Does anyone know how I can find out where this statue is located? 17:47, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Your filename or description is incomplete, however, the text already says it: Statue of Heinrich, St Ludwig (thats a church), Ansbach (thats a city). See Category:St. Ludwig Ansbach. --Martin H. (talk) 18:08, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
The "11" is of course a II, Its a statue of Heinrich the 2nd (II). Thats why I not found it with your description. --Martin H. (talk) 18:09, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


This photo (license) is Creative Commons Attribution 2.0
does real?
Other photos that say "some rights reserved" would be of the same license ¿no? this doubt and in commons not explained well this question that I have. Thanks --Greenfree (talk) 03:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

All Creative Commons are "Some rights reserved", so it may not necessarily be CC-SA-2.0. Yes, that image is CC-SA-2.0 and good for Wikimedia Commons. ZooFari 03:52, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Damn, not again. This is an attempt of flickrwashing by User:Francia user and other sockpuppets. Im fascinated, how can one person be so persistent in refusing to learn something! You can not copy images from non-free websites and claim them your own, with uploading images to flickr and license them you claim this images your own. Can you do this? No. --Martin H. (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Commons:Flickr washing (COM:FLICKRW) - an unacceptable tactic for making unfree images appear to be free. --Teratornis (talk) 22:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Migrating Commons image to Wikipedia article

Hi - I'm a newbie - I created a Commins account and uplaoded my image - I want to add this image to a Wikipedia edit - can this be done and if so can you please guide me as to how I do it - thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandgroperperth (talk • contribs) 09:22, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

See en:Wikipedia:Picture tutorial, or look out for random articles on Wikipedia, look at the article text and take examples how others embed their uploads to articles. --Martin H. (talk) 13:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

i'm trying to upload a logo I have done - what license do I have to put?

Hi, could someone tell me which license I should use for a logo that I have created of own of my clients???

paleblueyes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paleblueyes (talk • contribs) 16:17, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Read COM:CB#Trademarks (if the logo is very simple, it cannot be copyrighted) and look at Category:Logos for an example similar to yours. If the logo is your own work, and not a Work for hire, then you own the copyright (if it is complex enough to be copyrightable) and you can license it as you like, e.g. {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}. If the client paid you to create the logo for the client, then the copyright might be owned by the client depending on the copyright laws in your jurisdiction, and whether you had arranged to retain the copyright yourself. I am not a lawyer, but I suppose the safest method would be for both you and your client to give permission in writing and follow the procedure in COM:OTRS. Unless of course the logo is too simple to be copyrightable. --Teratornis (talk) 00:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Image moved to Commons, bot lost description

File:Boy in doorway MVNP.jpg was recently moved to Commons from en:WP. I tried to check the bot move, but couldn't get the original description to show -- it's still on the page when I try to edit it, but the template won't pick it up? Help? Thanks, PDTillman (talk) 20:02, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

There is an "=" in the {{en}} template. To avoid this, it needs to use {{en|1=}}. -- User:Docu at 20:08, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! --PDTillman (talk) 21:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Adding categories to a previously uploaded image

It is being requested that I add a category to File:Gps error diagram 2.svg. In accordance with instructions as I interpret them, I clicked on "edit" at the top of the page, I then added "Category:Engineering diagrams" enclosed in double brackets to the bottom of the page or at least the last thing I was permitted to edit. I the clicked "Show preview" and then "Save page". But upon looking at the page it still says "This media file is uncategorized". What is the reason that my entry of Category:Engineering diagrams is not recognized?

Actually, your category is being recognized, as you can see at the bottom of the description page. However, you didn't delete the notice that says {{Uncategorized|year=2010|month=February|day=17}}Jim.henderson (talk) 23:16, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
If you use HotCat to add a category to an uncategorized file, HotCat is smart enough to remove the {{Uncategorized}} template automatically. Or so I have observed several times. --Teratornis (talk) 00:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I added an {{Inkscape}} template and removed the {{Uncategorized}} template from File:Gps error diagram 2.svg. See my diff. Thank you for contributing to Wikimedia Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 01:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I added {{Inkscape}} because the image source says xmlns:inkscape="". --Teratornis (talk) 01:07, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


Help me!

Because the file which プレイズマン uploaded, is reversed printing, I uploaded a new file which I reversed to normal. Probably because I did not clear cash when I reviewed it, the reversed printing was displayed again. Then I uploaded it again. May be, because of the same reason, the reversed printing was displayed again. However, the 2nd revision's thumbnails was displayed definitely, so I did a revert, but do not succeed. Then I tried a revert twice, but failed. I am sorry not to be able to return it to normal 2nd revision.

I'd like to ask Commons's administrators to delete these useless 3rd to 6th revisions, and to display normal 2nd revision as the current revision. Best regards. --Minor edit (talk) 08:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


I am uploading some files but I dont find the usual interface with file descriptions, categories, ... There's only the license, file name and summary. I do have Hotcat, but it doesn't appear. What happens?Joxemai4 (talk) 13:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Is this problem evident during the upload, or after it? –Juliancolton | Talk 14:49, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

pc switched off and after on and all was ok. Joxemai4 (talk) 15:20, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe Javascript became disabled in your browser? That might happen if you accidentally bump the right hot key combination. I do weird things to my browser when I type in the dark sometimes. If you are running Firefox with the NoScript extension, you can turn off Javascript to specific sites deliberately or accidentally. --Teratornis (talk) 00:43, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
It can also happen when people introduce errors in MediaWiki:Common.js. Sigh... Lupo 17:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Making sure I understand licensing right

New user with existing accounts on the German and English Wikipedia.

I want to use this image originally published on Flickr under a CC-BY license. [6] If I understand it right, I can use the photo on Commons without asking the photographer for permission as long as I name the photographer in the file description, is that right?

If yes, what license do I have to, or am I allowed to, publish the photo under here on Commons? Also, I seem to be unable to find the photographer's real name in his Flickr profile. Am I not looking hard enough, or is it okay to use the Flickr handle as the photographer's name in the file description?--Farrokh Bulsara (talk) 00:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

You can upload images licensed CC-BY or CC-BY-SA from Flickr, when uploading always put same license as on Flickr page. Flickr user name you can find at his profile page [7]. Also consider using Flickr upload tool, it will collect all information and will make upload more easy --Justass (talk) 00:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Another way to get the image information is with {{Flinfo}}, i.e:
but that requires you to manually download the original image size to your computer and then upload it to Commons. You may prefer that if you want to control the process more. --Teratornis (talk) 04:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
See the links under COM:EIC#Flickr. --Teratornis (talk) 04:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Image release to CC-BY, permission via Twitter

A television personality has agreed to release two of her pictures as CC-BY, but she's done it via Twitter. Is this okay? She's currently doing Olympic coverage in Whistler, so I doubt I can get email until long after she's done that. -- Nick Moreau (talk) 19:46, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Should be fine, as long as:
  • The statement referred specifically to the works in question and clearly named the license.
  • You can link to the Twitter and that link either will work indefinitely, or can be archived by a mirror service.
I don't think you even need to go through OTRS in this case, if the license is at a public URL. Dcoetzee (talk) 22:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I would recommend creating a citation archive of the permission if you are not going through COM:OTRS. It can be done easily here. Then add the link created there to the permission section of the image here along with your twitter link. --Captain-tucker (talk) 12:05, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Using the edit bar in an image - which license ??


I have taken a screenshot of the bar just above the edit window for use in a welcome screen template.

I do not know how to license it though.

Please can someone advise me

Chaosdruid (talk) 22:53, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

See for example images in Category:English Wikipedia screenshots and Category:Commons screenshots. Find images similar to the one you made and see how they are licensed. --Teratornis (talk) 23:16, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Or see MediaWiki edit toolbar, maybe a better idea to create the toolbar from this icons then making a screenshot. A collection of items can be easily changed. There also already is a collection of Category:MediaWiki edit toolbar screenshots, so maybe there is something you need? --Martin H. (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Searching for upload date

Is it possible to search for upload date? I am looking for a file I once spotted under "Latest files". I don't know the file name or category, but the upload date is known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Simplexvir (talk • contribs) 12:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Look through Upload log --Justass (talk) 17:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


I wanted to replace this File:AIDE HELP FRANCH WIKTIONARY Projet Wiktonary.JPG by File:AIDE HELP FRENCH WIKTIONARY Projet Wiktonary.JPG. How can I delete the first one? NoX (talk) 17:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

You can't. Please tag duplicate image with {{duplicate}}, like this {{duplicate|File:AIDE HELP FRENCH WIKTIONARY Projet Wiktonary.JPG}} --Justass (talk) 17:17, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Cropped version: other license?

I've made a cropped version of this image, which I found on Flickr. Does the original license (CC-BY) change when I edit the image by (cropping it)? Afhaalchinees (talk) 19:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

The content from the original image is licensed under the same license as the original image, so the primary license tag you would just copy from the old image description page. Since it's CC-BY, not CC-BY-SA, if you make substantial modifications to the image, you can release them under any license you like - the most common thing is to use the template {{PD-retouched-user|YourUsername}} to release all rights to your modifications. However, mere cropping is generally considered ineligible for copyright, so you don't have to worry about it unless you want to be thorough. Dcoetzee (talk) 02:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't think a PD license is possible here: The CC-BY license requires you to attribute the author of the original image, so using a license without attribution for derivatives is not really possible. Regards, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 18:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Bild drehen

Ich möchte ein Bild in meiner Galerie drehen ,Durchmesser Schneeringe,Kann das jemand tun oder ist das nicht möglich? --Salvi 5 (talk) 23:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Du meinst File:Kathrin Spiegler 1.JPG. Doch, dass kannst du drehen: Bild runterladen, mit Bildbearbeitungsprogramm drehen und mit dem Link Eine neue Version dieser Datei hochladen am unteren Ende der Bildbeschreibung unterhalb der Dateiversionen (bei Englisch als eingestellte Sprache: Upload a new version of this file) die Datei mit dem gedrehten Bild überschreiben. --Martin H. (talk) 01:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Man kann das auch einen Bot machen lassen: [8] --Matt314 (talk) 12:38, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

out-dated images

Is there a common way (a template maybe?) to mark out-dated images, for example maps?--Trockennasenaffe (talk) 11:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I see a Category:Maps showing history. You could look at that category and related categories, that might lead you to some maps that have templates to indicate their outdated status, if such exist. If an image is outdated, the image description should say so. --Teratornis (talk) 19:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Loot at the File:Paris Metro map.gif, quite nice message. --Justass (talk) 19:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


This file Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Weilandsuit2008.jpg still exists, and I was wondering why. I saw a large backlog, but the date I requested the deletion (February 7) doesn't show up on the backlog. Was it somehow overlooked? Or is the backlog so large that this will take time to get to? – Keraunoscopia (talk) 19:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Currently around 5000 images awaits one or another decision. Oldest unclosed deletion request is from early June 2009, so it may take some time --Justass (talk) 19:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Excellent. I'll simply remove it from my mind then, thank you so much. – Keraunoscopia (talk) 13:23, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


Hi, two anonymous users have written some defamatory remarks on my talk page, without signs: [9] [10]. And there is another one at: other user's page. Could anybody delete these? I have nothing to do with the IDs which these people are claiming to be related to me.--トトト (talk) 08:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean by "delete these"? Are you asking for oversight? You can delete anything you like from your user talk page, but only a small number of privileged users can delete edits from a page history. Also, the link you gave shows a question, not a claim. Please explain how a question from an unregistered user constitutes defamation. --Teratornis (talk) 19:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

my missing Uncle in Edrine

Dear Sir

good day...i am Ahmad DAoud from Jordan . i have uncle (soleeman)whom he left Jordan long time ego,, i heared that he is in Edrine and he used to have Gas Station & he is married & have nice family . Unfortunatly we did not recieve any messages or letters from him,i am his neice,i remember my uncle very well even though its been long time... he is tall man,,small eyes,big nose,light hair,he smooks.. i hope that i could find some who can help me to find my missing uncle or his family..i shall be glad to write to any one who could help me... please write to me on

best regards

Ahmad Daoud — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 14:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

This Help desk is for questions about using Wikimedia Commons. You might try asking on the Reference desk. --Teratornis (talk) 19:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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to the administrators

why you bother me considering that: File:SadheeSYRIA.jpg

File history

Click on a date/time to view the file as it appeared at that time. Date/Time Thumbnail Dimensions User Comment current 03:29, 3 February 2010 Thumbnail for version as of 03:29, 3 February 2010 1,024×705 (209 KB) Izzedine (talk | contribs) (better quality) has been uploaded by Izzedine and NOT BY ME? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Busterof666 (talk • contribs) 10:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

First, it was not an admin who contacted you, and second, maybe you were contacted because you uploaded that image on March 27, 2009? (See Special:Log/Busterof666; admins can also view the deleted versions) Lupo 11:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
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