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File:Ana Paula Valadão and Diante do Trono.jpg

Pode excluir essa foto pra mim, eu não consigo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renan C. Nunes (talk • contribs)

  • Done. - Jmabel ! talk 14:28, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 14:28, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Docs 1696586 color picker en.gif

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

ich habe keine ausreichende Lizenz zu dem Thema Symbol: Schriftfarbe mit ein Bild. Das Bild habe ich aus Da ich mir dachte Setz es rein wenn jemand z.B. in Arbeiten oder Prüfungen es falsch hat, kann er sich das Bild angucken und weiß dann bescheid. Ich hoffe es ist OK, schließlich habe ich es aus guten Willen gemacht und hoffe ich komme damit durch! Sonst würde es nach 7 Tagen gelöscht und das möchte ich ungern, aber ändern kann ich es nicht!

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Kathrin Köhler — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boxen (talk • contribs) 2012-04-01T00:38:38 (UTC)

Hallo Kathrin,
Der Color-picker erreicht wahrscheinlich keine Schöpfungshöhe. {{PD-ineligible}} heißt dann die gesuchte Lizenzvorlage. Als Quelle bitte immer den direkten (vollen) Link angeben.
Was ist zu tun File:Docs 1696586 color picker en.gif bearbeiten, {{no license|...}} raus, {{Remove this line and insert a license instead|...}} mit {{PD-ineligible}} ersetzen, speichern. -- RE rillke questions? 09:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Battle of the Wizards, commons Vs Penyulap

I'm trying to upload a series of 6 artworks for userboxes, however the commons wizard is too dumb to understand the subtle differences in animation timing and thinks that some of the artworks in the series are the same. Silly bot !

The artworks are fundamentally different,

PenLift Building 1 Level 4.gif Level 4 goes here.

<- at the time of writing the request the commons thinks "PenLift Building 1 Level 4.gif" and "PenLift Building 1 Level G.gif" are the same, and has put one in the wrong place.

PenLift Building 1 Level 3.gif Level 3 goes here.
PenLift Building 1 Level 2.gif Level 2 goes here.

<- cannot upload this image at the time of writing this request

PenLift Building 1 Level 1.gif Level 1 goes here.
PenLift Building 1 level G.gif Ground level goes here.

<- cannot upload this image at the time of writing this request

How do I defeat the Evil Wizard ? (I already tried pressing up up down kick punch punch.) Penyulap

Are you _really_ sure the pictures you want to upload are different? AFAIK the wizard forbids uploading only byte-to-byte identical copies. Trycatch (talk) 09:39, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Rather than risk removing my foot from my mouth later, I just went and checked them all in my browser as well as in the painting program to look for save file blunders, but there are none. The file differences are subtle, but certainly significant. I had tried to upload multiple files using the wizard, it said 4 out of 6 failed, after that, it kept insisting that it didn't want Level G as it was the same as Level 4. Penyulap (talk)
As a faster fix, (I don't want to spend my life here), can 4 be renamed to G so that I can reupload 4 after I make invisible changes to the files that won't upload. Thanks Penyulap

Case closed, I just realised how to defeat the Evil Wizard no further assistance is needed, thank you. This is a bug and feel free to forward it if you like. Penyulap 10:01, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I fixed the problem by making much more significant changes, loading up the files with trash so that rather than a single byte of difference which the commons wizard can't detect, there was loads of trash it could detect. Commons Wizard (Zero) Penyulap (High Score) Penyulap
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 15:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

RUAG has from March 22, 2012 a new logo. With the permit of RUAG Holdings communication departement We can use it for Wikipedia... I will mark it as a personal work, or how I can handle that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blauer Heinrich (talk • contribs) 13:57, 21 March 2012‎ (UTC)

Permissions limited to Wikipedia are not sufficient for files to be uploaded to Commons, because Commons only hosts files which can be used by anyone for any purpose. The current logo, File:RUAG AG logo.svg, is too simple to be protected by copyright, so no permission is needed. I don't know if that's also true for the new logo. LX (talk, contribs) 14:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

This Logo is a registered trade mark, as all other logos like IBM, Coca-Cola, Apple in Wikipedia. But how I have to declare thad? It is somehow protected but I do not find how to do that. And I know Wikipedia since years, but this here is very complicated....

--Blauer Heinrich (talk) 15:46, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

As you can see on File:RUAG AG logo.svg, trademark protection is indicated using {{trademark}}. LX (talk, contribs) 16:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Verflixt und zugenäht, was soll ich nun machen? ist mir absolut nicht klar wie ich die Bürokratie hier lösen kann. Eine Lizenz soll ich erbringen?!? --Blauer Heinrich (talk) 20:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)--Blauer Heinrich (talk) 20:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I think the current logo didn't change much in complexity, so it just should be similar to the old one...--Trex2001 (talk) 06:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

From reading the only thing that changed about the logo was the tagline (which is also PD-Text). User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 06:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
ok, that means?--Blauer Heinrich (talk) 21:33, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
That means that just like File:RUAG AG logo.svg, the new logo is too simple to be protected by copyright, because it consists entirely of text. We have a template to indicate this on file description pages: {{PD-textlogo}}. LX (talk, contribs) 22:24, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Ich bin nicht Rechtsanwalt, aber ich weiss, dass das Logo beim Amt für geistiges Eigentum registriert ist und einem gewissen Schutz unterworfen ist. Ich darf kein Logo einer fremden Firma nutzen ohne Rückfrage, das ist immer so. Der Rest ist für mich Haarespalterei ohne echten Nutzen. Vor allem hier, wo ich nicht weiss was machen. IBM, Coca-Cola und weiss ich wer hat hier sein Logo im zugehörigen Artikel. Nun weiss ich aber nicht wie ich es nun anstellen soll. Das alte RUAG Logo war ohne Bewilligung der RUAG in der Wikipedia, das weiss ich weil ich es abgeklärt habe.--Blauer Heinrich (talk) 12:09, 24 March 2012 (UTC)--Blauer Heinrich (talk) 12:09, 24 March 2012 (UTC)--Blauer Heinrich (talk) 12:09, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I think you are mixing up copyright and trademark. As LX states, it's likely not copyrighted due to its simplicity. But without being a law expert either, im pretty sure it's trademarked. Read up on trademark (de) and copyright (de) to see the difference...--Trex2001 (talk) 06:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

San Diego and ships?

Can't find info on how people can contribute pictures so I can contribute my pictures of San Diego and the San Diego Maritime Museum ships. Thanks, Lewis Lewishb (talk) 23:33, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I inserted a heading here, it showed under the previuos one.--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Special:UploadWizard would be a good start.--Trex2001 (talk) 12:32, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

There are "userbox" on Wikimedia Commons?

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 12:33, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I want to know if there "userbox" in the Wikimedia Commons, as well as in Wikipedia? If there is, I want to know where they are and how to use. Greetings. Fúlviodiz!-fiz! 02:02, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, there are; please look at Category:Userbox templates. There are many more at the English Wikipedia than there are here; most of our userboxes are simple "This user has this ability" messages, and we don't really have ones that Wikipedia does, like "This user eats bagels" or "This user believes in the Flying Spaghetti Monster". Nyttend (talk) 02:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
There is also COM:UBX (which should probably be translated at some point). It lists some of the userboxes available. Killiondude (talk) 02:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the instructions. Fúlviodiz!-fiz! 11:48, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

SVG problems

I uploaded this SVG file recently. It is a map which reproduces an existing Commons file as SVG using Inkscape and OpenStreetmap data. The problem is that, depending on the program you are using for viewing, it shows differently. In the thumbnail lots of elements are missing, while it shows just fine when I look at it directly in the browser or in Inkscape. I have played around with layers, used different export options. I don't have a lot of SVG experience and can't figure out what it could be. Does anybody have an idea what the problem is? --Hansbaer (talk) 06:57, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps someone in the Commons:Graphic Lab could answer your question. -- RE rillke questions? 09:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
For a first try, when exporting in Inkscape ensure to select "Plain SVG" and NOT the Inkscape SVG option...--Trex2001 (talk) 06:51, 2 April 2012 (UTC)--Trex2001 (talk) 06:51, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The photo is public domain. Why block upload?

I want to donate Clair Marlo's press photo from her website up to Wikimedia Commons, but you keeps rejecting it. I don't know why, her website says:

"This image is public domain and may be freely shared."


I've been starting to write an article about Clair Marlo. She is such a big start in the Philippines where I am from, I can't believe there is not an article about Clair. I love her music so much. Can you help me please? Thank you. Manilavanilla (talk) 02:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

  • You say we "keep rejecting it" but the account from which you are writing has no deleted uploads on the Commons, so I'm not sure what you mean by that. What exactly happened? - Jmabel ! talk 05:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
To clarify: the system automatically rejects some poor file names. Give it a name something like Clair Marlo.jpg. --Tony Wills (talk) 09:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I try to upload the photo about 3 times. I renamed the file "Clair_Marlo_Official.jpg". I check this choice in upload wizard:

I found it on the Internet -- I'm not sure
I believe this work is freely licensed or legally in the public domain. I understand that if I do not add the necessary licensing information in a timely fashion, the file may be deleted.

Maybe this is the problem? It always returns with this error:

Unknown warning: "duplicate-archive".
None of the uploads were successful.

Maybe the photo is already uploaded? But I cannot find it with search functionality! Manilavanilla (talk) 15:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I think it is the upload wizard since I checked with another upload form for this image and there is no duplicate at all. However, why is this image in the public domain? Did you take this photo? User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 16:55, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
It appears to be an image hosted on the personal web site belonging to the person on the photo, so I would guess that the person released the photo to the public domain herself. However, note that the Wikipedia article on the person, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clair Marlo, was deleted because of lack of notability, so maybe one could argue that the image is out of scope for Commons. --Stefan4 (talk) 17:01, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok, that works for me. The website is legitimate, just had to go poke around a bit. However, I agree that the image is out of scope for the Commons. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 17:09, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
She may be notable on another Wikipedia than the English version (which has much stricter sourcing requirements than many other Wikipedia's). And even if it's not used on a Wikimedia site it could still serve towards an educational function. SpeakFree (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Commons notability threshold for a musician is a lot lower than on en-wiki. This should almost certainly be within our scope. - Jmabel ! talk 15:22, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Uploading a photo that is not my own work.

I would like to contribute a photo of the Seger Ellis orchestra from 1941 to the Wikipedia article about Seger Ellis. Mt father played in that big band, and he passed away in 2010. I found the photo of the Seger Ellis orchestra in his memorabilia, with the names of all the band members listed on the back in my father's handwriting. It is obviously a professional photo, not taken by my father. Is it permissible for me to upload this photo to Wikimedia Commons and use it in Wikipedia? - unisigned

  • This is going to be a bit tricky. For starters: what country? - Jmabel ! talk 15:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Conflicting Image Summary


I recently uploaded an image to the Commons (see here: ) It is accurately licensed and is confirmed under the OTRS system. However, when I log out of my Wikimedia account and delete my cookies from my computer, the summary in the link above shows the OTRS pending template and the Flickr Review pending template, instead of the updated summary as seen in the above link when I’m logged in to the Commons and Wikipedia. This old version of the summary is only seen on the Wikipedia link (see here: ), not the actual description page on the Commons. This only happens when I delete my cookies when logging out. It does not happen to any other image I have viewed. I’ve tried viewing the image summary across different browsers (when logged out of Wikimedia/pedia), but I still see the OTRS pending template, when I should be seeing the OTRS confirmed and Flickr Review confirmed template instead. But when I log into Wikimedia and my cookies haven't been deleted, the image summary is up-to-date again (with the OTRS confirmed template etc..)!

Can you tell me why this is the case? And do non-Wikipedia members view the image summary as it should be or its out of date version? Thanks. Poppersocks (talk) 08:09, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

No problem for you. It's just a caching issue; cofusing, yes but the file will be kept and is Ok. -- RE rillke questions? 09:29, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
OK, thanks. One last question: If I wanted to upload a cropped version of the image, but not replace the original version of the image above with the cropped version, how would I do it? Poppersocks (talk) 11:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Nevermind; it's done. Thanks for the help. :) Poppersocks (talk) 12:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
i think the flickrreview template should be removed from the cropped image to avoid confusion...--Trex2001 (talk) 12:29, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Name of artist who restored Pergamon´s mosaic front as seen at Pergamon Museeum in Berlin

Sorry but I cannot find a place to sign in and would like to very much for future use. Could you help me please?

  • (interspersed: should be at the upper right of your window) - Jmabel ! talk 15:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Is there some information of who restored the mosaics in front of the altar? I was brought up with the impression that my father, Peter Heinrich Hermann Jungebloedt (+ app. 1985) who dedicated his artistic life to mosaic works, and after WW2 lived in the Russian sector, was in charge of the elaborate work.

Is it my unreliable imagination (I am 84 years old) or did I see information at the site when I visited it in 1978, attributing the work to him?

I would appreciate any information about this subject.

Liese Jungebloedt

Stein, Bavaria, Germany.

Image license?

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 09:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

The images I've used and uploaded are from public domain websites that are for sure okay to use publicly. A certain image of a band member I've used was released by the band's own Twitter account. I guess I'm just a bit confused with this part of Wikipedia, since I'm pretty new to the images and stuff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lips Of Deceit (talk • contribs) 01:37, 22 March 2012‎ (UTC)

Oh, wait. I added a license that seems correct. I'm still not sure if I'm okay on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lips Of Deceit (talk • contribs) 01:53, 22 March 2012‎ (UTC)

If you'd say who you are and what articles/images you are asking about, it's a lot more likely someone could help you. - Jmabel ! talk 01:55, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, oh, sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lips Of Deceit (talk • contribs) 02:12, 22 March 2012‎ (UTC)

And also, what would the license for album artwork be? I can't seem to find that, or I'm not looking close enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lips Of Deceit (talk • contribs) 02:39, 22 March 2012‎ (UTC)

The bottom of the site says "©2012 Alternative Press. All rights reserved.". Is there any reason to assume otherwise? The rights to the album artwork probably lie with the label or the band. You would have to ask them whether they are willing to release them under a free license. --rimshottalk 07:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, seriously? Even if the album has been released publicly? Also, if the band released an image or something on Twitter, I'd still have to ask them to use it under a free license? I'm sorry, I'm really confused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lips Of Deceit (talk • contribs) 21:45, 22 March 2012‎ (UTC)

Yes. It seems you have confused the terms published (available to the general public) and public domain (owned by the general public). They are different words that mean different things. A work that is in the public domain is not protected by copyright. Publishing a work is not the same as placing it into the public domain. In fact, the very purpose of copyright is to enable authors to publish works while still retaining control of how they are distributed. LX (talk, contribs) 22:14, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Ohhh, okay. Thanks, that cleared things up a bit.

Dubious uploads


Can someone please have a look on the uploads of User:Chalikushu? Thank you! --

All of his files aer nominated for deletion.--Trex2001 (talk) 09:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Elif Shafak.jpg

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 09:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for this opportunity to ask for clarification. Would you accept an agreement in Turkish between the photographer and Dogan Kitap as a sourse of validation of the copyright? If yes, I will send it by mail to permissions-commons If an agreement in Turkish can not be accepted, please guide me what to do in a step by step manner. I appreciate the detailed help pages provided but it is really hard for me to give the necessary time to read them all and understand properly. The right to use the said photograph all over the world for publicity purposes has been given to the publisher Dogan Kitap and we want to use this photograph on the Wikipedia article of Elif Shafak. Thank you very much for your time and help. --Askolsun (talk) 12:52, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Written permission is required, language doesnt matter. However, using the photo "for publicity purposes" is insufficient permission. Permission must be given that anyone can use the photo for any purpose including commercial purposes (inside of course the laws of the intented country of publications, i.e. personality rights). --Martin H. (talk) 15:02, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. -Askolsun (talk) 20:49, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Flight-simulator-controls.jpg

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 09:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't have licensing information about this file, what do I do? This file can be found all over the Internet.

Thanks --Pagerider (talk) 23:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

The fact that you can find a file all over the Internet usually doesn't say anything about the copyright status of a work. This looks like it might be a patent drawing. It's drawn and numbered in the same style as the drawing Edward Link's other patents. I couldn't find the specific patent, but if you can, check it for copyright notices, and if it doesn't contain any, tag the file as {{PD-US-patent-no notice}}. LX (talk, contribs) 06:33, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I found the image as part of patent no. 2099857, and since it has no copyright information tagged the file as LX suggested.--Trex2001 (talk) 07:00, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Kitzbühl1.jpg

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 06:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren!

Beim aufrufen ihrer Seite musste ich feststellen das eines meiner Bilder zum löschen in 7 tagen vorgeschlagen wurde da die Uhrheberrechte anscheinend nicht Eindeutig geklärt sind. Ich habe dieses Bild von meiner Vater erhalten, er ist der Urheber dieses Bildes. Da ich ihn auch als Quelle angegeben habe verstehe ich nicht was das Problem ist. Bitte um Hilfe.

Edit: Selbes Problem mit einem anderem Bild!

Mit freundlichen grüßen

Horst Michael Lechner

--Horst Michael Lechner (talk) 22:19, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Das Foto zeigt ein urheberrechtlich geschütztes Gebäuden (Werke der Architektur). Mehr Informationen zu Bildrechten an Gebäuden finden Sie in der deutschen Wikipedia unter Wikipedia:Bildrechte. Bei weiteren Fragen oder Bildfreigaben können Sie sich direkt an das deutsche OTRS-Team ( wenden. --Wvk (talk) 10:13, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Hier noch der link zum OTRS mit weiteren Erläuterungen: Commons:OTRS/de. Commons möchte einfach sicher gehen, dass wirklich nur freie Inhalte auf den Servern liegen. Das Prozedere dazu mag manchmal umständlich erscheinen, sichert aber ab, dass nicht irgendwann ein Rechteinhaber kommen kann und klagt. Viel Erfolg beim Kontakt mit dem OTRS-Team!--Funfood 10:18, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

What copyright rules apply as owner of a unique painting

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 06:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

This concerns a photograph of a unique painting (not a print) owned by me.

Please see

This artwork was created by

It was given to my family (i.e. we own it) by its creator in 1965.

I am both the current owner of the painting and the photographer.

I would like to post an image on the creator's wikipedia page as well as on the page (and de...).

Update: After researching this, I believe that as owner of the work, I have the commercial rights to the copyright, but not the moral rights. I believe this means that I can license the free use of the work as long as the original creator is referenced by attribution. His family still owns the moral rights to the work until it passes into the public domain 70 years after his death, but the family can require no more than proper attribution under those moral rights.

Given the above (and assuming you agree) which Creative Commons license do I use, and how do I upload? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrcovert (talk • contribs) 15:22, 27 March 2012‎ (UTC)

The owner of a painting does not own the rights to it - the original artist or their heirs do - unless they were transferred by a legal contract. Because this artist died recently, their works are not in the public domain in the source country; and because their works were almost certainly created after 1923, they are also in copyright in the United States under the URAA. Hence you have no right to redistribute any photo of the work, unless the painter's heirs are willing to release the work under a free license. Dcoetzee (talk) 13:32, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you --jrc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrcovert (talk • contribs) 21:30, 27 March 2012‎ (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:1972-$1-Peso-Oro-Anverso.jpg

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 06:23, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia and contributing with files. I have this paper currency which I scanned at a better resolution than the one found on your portal. How, or what is the next procedure for it to appear? Do I have to write special coding or tags?

Thank you, Juan Pablo Rojas. My email is

--Jprojasw (talk) 15:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC) Juan Pablo Rojas

I found a workaround for the Copyright. How do I add the classification and how do I reflect the change on the page with my contribution? Sorry If I don't follow the procedures you have to address this issues.

This is what it is currently Uploaded:

This is my contribution:$1-Peso-Oro-Anverso.jpg Better resolution, and named correctly.

Also How can I reflect this in pages in English?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jprojasw (talk • contribs) 16:04, 30 March 2012‎ (UTC)

To replace an image in the es.wikipedia article Peso colombiano, for example, you would edit that article page and replace the name of the image file that is there with the name of your new image file. However, that image doesn't seem to meet the conditions of the wording of the template PD-Colombia that is used with it. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:14, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I have to admit that "a workaround for the copyright" sounded a bit scary, but File:1972-$1-Peso-Oro-Anverso.jpg is simply a more recent print of the same 1959 design shown in File:1 a.jpg. Since the original is in the public domain by the fourth case of {{PD Colombia}} (works by the government are protected for 50 after publication) and the more recent bill contains no modifications that are eligible for copyright protection, it should also be in the public domain, unless I'm mistaken. That should probably be clarified on the file description page to prevent deletion. LX (talk, contribs) 17:45, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Ah, that could work. -- Asclepias (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Where can I find such template to abide to your standards? please provide the link. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jprojasw (talk • contribs) 16:37, 30 March 2012‎ (UTC)

Please update image

Yes check.svg Resolved--Trex2001 (talk) 06:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I have an update version of:

File:Usage share of web browsers (Source StatCounter).svg


Can someone please update it for me?

Thank you,

Litehacker (talk) 12:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

✓ Done--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Ana Paula Valadão..jpg

I can not delete this picture, how do I delete?

--Renan C. Nunes (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

  • As a non-admin, you can't delete a photo. Looks like it lacks appropriate license information, so it will be deleted in due course. - Jmabel ! talk 21:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Norman Petty.jpg

I am the authorized webmaster for Norman Petty Studios. I have been given a number of photographs for use on the website, as well as other web promotion use, such as Wikipedia from the Vi Petty Estate. The photo I have uploaded is scheduled for deletion yet the photo that was previously there was taken directly from my website as well, without permission. I can provide a direct contact with the Estate regarding their permission if necessary.

Shawn Nagy - Super Oldies

-- 00:35, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Your best bet would be to get in contact with COM:OTRS and they can get in touch with you about the licensing and permission. We have to have a stated license for images to be hosted on here, you can read it at here. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 00:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Clearing Rock Slide at Hells Gate, Fraser River (Photograph no A-8-3.2).jpg

I am not sure how to tag correctly to ensure that this file is not deleted. It is a public domain resource photograph from the digital collection at the Vancouver city archives and can be found at this address: [1]. Please help! Thank you --Alexwarren89 (talk) 17:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Alexwarren89(talk)

It is fine. Please add a category. If possible a direct link to the online source would be great. Yann (talk) 18:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help: Content translation for image File:SolGel.jpg

Hi, I would like to translate the content of this image File:SolGel.jpg. from German to Italian (maybe also English); I would be able to upload it as a .svg file. It is not clear to me if the licence from the author of the image allows me to do that. Thank you, MG

All documents on Commons can be modified and translated. That's the point of using free licenses. Please go! For the SVG file, just use the same license as for the original, mentioning also the original author. Thanks for your participation. Yann (talk) 17:35, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
& I recommend using {{derived from}} and {{derivative versions}}. -Jmabel ! talk 20:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

how to add photos to existing file?

My grandfather, George Holt, actor/director in early films, already has a page on WiKipedia. I have photos I would like to send for his page. How? Thanks,

Suzanne O'Connell

Hi Suzanne, if the photos were first published in the US before 1923, or before 1978 and there is no copyright notice on them (the name of the copyright holder and copyright year with a (C) mark), then they are probably fine to upload. For photos predating 1923, click Upload File on the left to use the Upload Wizard and choose "The copyright has definitely expired in the USA" then "First published in the United States before 1923". For files published between 1923 and 1978 with no copyright notice, do the same but afterwards edit the file description page and change the syntax "{{PD-1923}}" to instead read "{{PD-US-no-notice}}". Dcoetzee (talk) 22:29, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Also, if they are otherwise unpublished family photos, and you have inherited rights to them, you can either license them as {{PD-heirs}} to release them into the public domain or {{CC-BY-SA-3.0-heirs}} to release them under a license that requires attribution and "share-alike" (click through on that CC-BY-SA-3.0-heirs link to learn more details about what that means). - Jmabel ! talk 23:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


Can someone tell me how I can upload an living artist's work if I get there permission? The artist is Brook Kapukuniahi Parker and her work are online. If I were to get her permission what do I from there?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Make sure that the permission allows you to publish the work under a free licence. There are instructions at COM:OTRS which you can follow. Basically, you need to send the permission to an e-mail address and add {{subst:OP}} anywhere on the file information page. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Licensing for chemical drawings

Hello, I just uploaded this own-made structure following the instructions but the license appeared as PD for simple structural formulae. Since that is not a simple formula, but a reaction shown in 3-D, I was wondering if that is the correct license or if I should change it to CC-BY-SA. Thanks! --Mark91 (talk) 09:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Antique photographs

Can we upload antique photographs listed on auction sites ? For ex: Consider this photograph taken in the year 1867 ( — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Lordofallhearts (talk • contribs)

File:Vignoble de Tain l'Hermitage début XXe.jpg


Peux-tu me dire comment l'auteur d'une photo illustrant cette carte postale pourrait donner son autorisation s'il était identifié ? De plus ce photographe est inconnu (unknown) donc l'extinction de tout droit d'auteur correspond à la date d'édition soit 100 ou 110 ans. --JPS68 (talk) 09:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

How could we have a permission from a unknow author of an old post card dated on the begining of the XX century (older than 70 years)? give us the way!Véronique PAGNIER (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

moved from my talk page to here, i originally was the one who nominated the file for deletion.--Trex2001 (talk) 10:26, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Le problème est qu'il n'est pas possible vérifier la licence. Il dit que le photographe est mort avant 1942 mais comment peut-on le vérifier si le photographe est inconnu ? Si le photographe est vraiment inconnu, on peut utiliser {{Anonymous-EU}} comme licence. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:14, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

update image

How do I update an image? I'm getting an error that the file name already exists (duh!) without anything helpful like, "if you are trying to update, then do ..." O18 (talk) 16:29, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

You wait four days for your new account to get the faculty to modify files, then you use the link "Upload a new version of this file". -- Asclepias (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
What do you do when you have an account older than 4 days that similarly does not allow updating a file? Pdbailey (talk) 17:26, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
OK, I figured it out, I just needed to use the old form. A link that mentions this would be really nice, where can I request that? Pdbailey (talk) 18:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
A link that mentions what? Do you have the "Upload a new version" link on the description page? You did update files with that account in the last years. -- Asclepias (talk) 18:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

contributer email not provided for licensing issue

Alchemist-hp has some images I would like to use. They are listed as free art and permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License. He does however ask that he be emailed. When I click on email link (email not actually listed), it takes me to a page that says I do not have the right to see the email becuase I am not a user. Do I need to register as a user to conform to the authors request but not requirement to reuse the image? Thanks Melanie — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 17:40, 5. Apr. 2012‎ (UTC)

Simply write on Heinrich's talk page: User talk:Alchemist-hp. If you want to e-Mail you have to register and confirm your e-Mail address. -- RE rillke questions? 17:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Cannot upload. "Internal error: Bad token."

This and other pics I can upload to this host, but not to Commons:

I get the error message "Internal error: Bad token".

Can you tell me how I can solve the problem? --Micropix (talk) 11:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

In WP I can upload the file: --Micropix (talk) 14:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
What do you mean? The file is both hosted on Wikipedia (de:Datei:Rumex sp. 1.jpg) and on Commons (File:Rumex sp. 1.jpg). Since the file on Wikipedia also is hosted on Commons, I edited the file information page on Wikipedia to tell that the file is available on Commons. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:58, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I could upload the files now, but not with the fast upload. --Micropix (talk) 16:26, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Charlie Condou

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This image - File:Charlie-Condou-005.jpg - of British actor Charlie Condou has recently been uploaded by a new account. Taken from the Guardian newspaper website - [2] - It isn't free content right? If not can someone sort this.Raintheone (talk) 16:45, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I've nominated it for speedy deletion. You can do it yourself -- click on the "Report copyright violation" link on the left, and write in the reason. The script will do the rest automatically. Trycatch (talk) 16:59, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Upload check

Hi @ everybody!

Can some experienced user please have a look over the uploads of this person --->>>[3] ? I think that almost all of his photos uploaded are not from him.



Indeed. Some look plausible but claim of "own work" on things like this casts in doubt even the ones that look plausible. I suspect someone who has decent Russian should step in to sort this out. - Jmabel ! talk 15:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Dan Bongino.jpg

I have permission form the Dan Bongino campaign to publish photos and content to the various wiki locations. I am unsure how to accurately apply that status to this photo. Can you provide me some guidance.

Here is my authorization:

--Lscottewart (talk) 11:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

  • The problem is that "all manners relating to Wikipedia to include but not limited to uploading pictures" does not really cover the case. For starters, Commons is not Wikipedia, but, more importantly, Commons accepts only images that are either in the public domain or released under certain types of 'free license'. It's not at all clear for what images Bongino (or his campaign) owns copyright (vs. rights being owned by the photographer), nor that this letter authorizes you to release rights (as against merely uploading materials once rights have been released). I strongly recommend you look at COM:OTRS to see what such a release normally looks like. Note, especially, that the holder of rights should specify the license under which images are released. Note: it's possible that the OTRS people might consider the letter an adequate release but, for the reasons just expressed, I doubt it, and rather than simply forward the linked document to OTRS, I'd suggest that you try to get a more "normal" release and send that instead. - Jmabel ! talk 16:01, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Oman Export Treemap.png

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I have uploaded 50 images and accidentally chose the wrong copyright access. Instead of unlicensed, it should be a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license, but I am having a very difficult time trying to figure out how to change them. Can you please help? --MIT Harvard Observatory (talk) 21:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

✓ Done Please add categories. Thanks for your participation, Yann (talk) 04:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Yann, nearly all 160 files MIT had uploaded had something wrong with the license. A lot also had a typo in the source (EDY instead of EDU). I've batch edited them all yesterday. I've spend some time today making a fancy color index for these maps. I hope MIT is ok that I moved this template to a subpage of their account since the images belong to them. They still need categories though. Is there a way to use VisualFileChange.JS to use the file as a variable in a custom replace?--Vera (talk) 20:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Categorized All The Things. Though there seems to be a difference between the legend on the site and the legend of the uploaded treemaps. --Vera (talk) 16:00, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Private Pictures sold on Auction website

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What is the copyright status of what appears to be private family pictures (description says French tourists in India in 1938) that are being sold on an auction website dedicated to collectibles? Does stuff such as family pics displayed for sale on an auction website automatically fall into the public domain?

Some pics show landscapes, others show landscape + (presumably) members of the travel group. Thanks for your help! --Lubiesque (talk) 21:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

No, they don't automatically fall into the public domain. If they're being first published, they'll get a copyright term of life+x (70 for US and EU, 60 for India, 50 for China, etc.) like any other work, and in many places they'll get a special copyright just for being first published (Canada and the UK and probably some other places; I believe it's 25 years for the UK).--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Most likely it's the first time they are being published. --Lubiesque (talk) 15:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Nicola Peltz.png

FYI, the author of this photo may be having difficulty editing flickr's copyright settings so he placed "Attribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons" (i.e., CC BY-SA-2.0) in the description field. :-( I am using OTRS just in case. TQ.

Hasdi Bravo • 03:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
The link maybe will help the flickr user. --Martin H. (talk) 12:08, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
GREAT! The author successfully changed the copyright settings. :-) Now what? How do I get flickrbot to confirm this? Is the OTRS redundant now? Danke! — Hasdi Bravo • 21:30, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Nigel Cox.jpg

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License, but I did not submit the file with said licensing, I am unclear on how to add this tag to the file and avoid deletion.

Thanks for your assistance - --Dkalaf (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

You can't. Commons does not host files published under non-free licenses, such as licenses which do not allow commercial uses and derivative works. Please read Commons:Project scope/Summary#Must be freely licensed or public domain. LX (talk, contribs) 18:54, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Got It. Question - I am a 3rd party that has expressed written permission from the artist to use his copyrighted pieces of artwork in this article, of which there is current commercial interest and value of the originals and prints (artist is in many galleries around the world). Can I proceed on Wiki with photos throughout the article, which adds merit and understanding to the artists background & history and or should I dilute the article and not include any photographs of the images? Put differently, for inclusion on Wiki, the artist needs to give up his rights entirely to his work?

Thanks for helping me understand.

--Dkalaf (talk) 09:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

For inclusion on Wikimedia Commons, content must be in the public domain or published under a free license, allowing anyone to use it for any purpose. The author does not have to give up his rights entirely if he wants his works to be hosted here, but he does need to give up some of his rights to the specific works to be hosted here, including the right to control commercial use and derivative works. He can retain the right to be attributed, and he can require derivative works to be licensed in the same manner.
Some other Wikimedia projects, including English Wikipedia, accept limited use of non-free content for a specified context under fair use provisions. This is not an option available to Commons, because content in a general-purpose media repository by definition has no specific context. For the English Wikipedia project's non-free content guidelines, see en:Wikipedia:Non-free content. LX (talk, contribs) 10:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Adding a photo of a retired sports figure to his article in Wikipedia

I'd like to add a photograph of a retired, very well known, highly awarded sports figure, to the article about him in Wikipedia. He is a friend of mine.

This would be a photo of him in uniform, given to me by him, together with his expressed permission to upload the file. Is this permissible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesMichaelTorcivia (talk • contribs) 21:59, 8 April 2012‎ (UTC)

The only one who can issue a valid permission to use a photograph is the copyright holder. The copyright holder is normally the photographer, rather than the subject. Furthermore, a permission that only covers uploading to Commons is not sufficient. Commons only hosts content that is free for anyone to use for any purpose. See Commons:Project scope#Must be freely licensed or public domain. LX (talk, contribs) 10:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Upload time

Moved here from Commons talk:FAQ. Killiondude (talk) 00:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I've been uploading a 120 MB TIFF for the past 24 hours. How long should it take to upload a file to Wikimedia Commons with high speed DSL? I need to know if I've made a mistake or something. 00:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

The maximum file size is 100 MB. It also seems like you're not logged in, and only logged-in users can upload files. LX (talk, contribs) 10:19, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Nicola Peltz wikipedia3.png

Can someone delete this file? I uploaded it under the wrong name by mistake. It is supposed to be File:Nicola Peltz.png Sorry. Hasdi (talk) 03:19, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: RE rillke questions? 23:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Cover images of books

Urantia Foundation is the publisher of The Urantia Book currently translated into 14 languages. Most of these translations have an article on Wikipedia in particular language. Urantia Foundation asks me to upload the cover images of these books on Wikimedia to use such images as illustration for these articles on Wikipedia. What kind of license/permission should I use to prevent deletion of these images? Recently I have uploaded two such image files but they were deleted as a possible copyright violation. Fandor (talk) 07:43, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

see COM:OTRS--Trex2001 (talk) 07:55, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Bristol Fighter on field of Agincourt.jpg


I run Monmouthpedia, a Wikipedia outreach project in Monmouth, Wales. The local museum has uploaded some of their collection to commons but we are getting messages on the images:

The uploader did not provide sufficient information (a valid and suitable tag) on this media's copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided, the file could be deleted seven days after the upload (5 April 2012). Please note that Commons does not accept files claimed under fair use. It is suggested to read the intro of Commons' licensing policy, about essential information and (in many cases) about Internet images. If you need help ask at the Commons:Help desk.

The username is User:MonmouthMuseumWales

An example of a file with this issue is File:Bristol Fighter on field of Agincourt.jpg

Please could you point me to a page or give me with instructions of how we can prove it is the museum uploading the images

Many thanks

--Mrjohncummings (talk) 14:06, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:BirdsHeadPeninsula NL.JPG

This file is a modification of BirdsHeadPeninsula Topo.jpg I only added Dutch geografical names. These data are from the original file:

Description=Vogelkop Peninsula, West Papua (Indonesia) Source=own work. GMT, GLOBE Date=January 2006 Author=Stefan Faymer |Permission=

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GNU head Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled GNU Free Documentation License.
Creative Commons license
Creative Commons Attribution Creative Commons Share Alike
If this file is eligible for relicensing, it may also be used under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license.

The relicensing status of this image has not yet been reviewed. You can help.

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Category:West Irian Jaya

Excuses, I am not familiar with the procecdure with modified illustrations. I hope this file will not be deleted. Friendly greeting, --HWN 19:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Spelling error

Good morning, I recently downloaded the file "File:11.11.27 Barage avec prise d'eau pour l'ancienne scierie à Tatroz 5.JPG". Unfortunately there is a spelling error: the word Barage should be written Barrage, with two r's. I don't know how to correct this error. Would you be so kind and do it for me, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.Anacht (talk • contribs) 2012-04-16T10:06:40 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 15:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Palpatine2.jpg

Puuhh...welche Lizenz passt denn da? Oder gibt's da keine Möglichkeit? -- 00:31, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

No.... not free. Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 03:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

File:English language.svg

I believe File:English language.svg breaks the United States Flag Code that establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law. I think it should be speedy deleted. I am not sure how to put it up for deletion or I would myself. Can someone help with this? Theworm777 (talk) 07:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Pictures like this probably are protected by the First Amendment. So no, it's not possible to speedy delete a file like this (speedy deletion is for obvious cases only), nominate it for regular deletion if you want. There is "Nominate for deletion" link in the left toolbox -- click on it and write in the reason, the script will do the rest automatically. --Trycatch (talk) 17:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Anzahl der Bilder in den Kategorien

Rufe ich eine Kategorie auf, die eine bestimmte (deutlich größere) Anzahl Bilder übersteigt, wird folgender Text angezeigt, auch wenn die Anzahl der in der Kategorie enthaltenen Bilder erheblich höher ist: "Folgende 215 Dateien sind in dieser Kategorie enthalten:"

Z. B. hier: Category:Ermine (clothing) in art mit 3150 Bildern.
Blättert man nun trotzdem weiter, was man eigentlich nicht braucht, weil alle Bilder angeblich bereits angezeigt werden, folgt die, vermutlich richtige, Anzeige, in obigem Fall diese: "Es werden 215 von insgesamt 3.150 Dateien in dieser Kategorie angezeigt:"
Kann diese irreführende Angabe jemand umprogrammieren? Hilfreich wäre ja bereits, wenn statt der festen Angabe der Hinweis stünde, "es sind mehr als die angezeigten Bilder in dieser Kategorie enthalten". Obwohl für mich nicht erkennbar ist, warum nicht bereits beim ersten Aufruf die korrekte Zahl angegeben wird? --Kürschner (talk) 13:17, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Files probable copied by Diddle13

Hi, not sure of how to report this.. please see uploads of User_talk:Diddle13. many of his uploads already deleted, the 4 still remaining are almost certainly copyvio. has the logo of the TV series and looks like a promo shot, no exif data etc, is taken from . the other two also lo-res w/no exif etc. best 13:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

All tagged as copyvio with references to pages using them before the Commons upload and now I see that someone else has deleted them too. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

License plates

A rather generic question: I just saw this image and wondered if we would need to blur license plates on images like that for insurance violation/legal issues or if we just dont care?--Trex2001 (talk) 13:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

It's considered a good practice to blur out license plates in photos like this. Not sure about the legal issues, but this is common sense. --Trycatch (talk) 17:12, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Scrapped ships

I am attempting to expand an article relating to ships built in a certain location on Wikipedia, and numerous ships have been scrapped or sunk. There are few photographs of some of these ships, could they be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons as a historical image - many existed less than 150 years ago. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

There is no such license template on Commons as "historical image", you should have some explicit license template, some explicit reason from Commons:Licensing why the picture you want to upload is free. To cut a long story short, most of 150 year old pictures are free because of one reason or another, for 100-120 year old picture the situation is much more complicated -- sometimes it's very hard to understand if the picture in question is free or not (and you can't upload the picture, if you don't have a proof that it's free). If you know the photographer, and their date of death -- ok, it's easy to figure out if the picture is free or not. But in many cases you have no idea about the author, publication history and so on. There are {{PD-UK-unknown}} and similar templates for anonymous photos published more than 70 years ago, but it's sorta dangerous template -- it's hard to be really sure that the photo is really anonymous. --Trycatch (talk) 17:04, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


I just tagged File:Melissa-Mccarthy-Warner-Shows.jpg for speedy deletion, but wanted to make sure I've used the correct template. I've only ever used it a couple of times before on images that had the wrong licenses. I just discovered the Melissa image is a screen shot from a 2011 programme, not a pic of the actress after a 2009 comedy show as the description states. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's the correct template (but its name is "copyvio", not "db-copyvio", which works too but is a redirection for people more used to the en.wikipedia jargon). -- Asclepias (talk) 22:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 00:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:HTC 7 Surround (T8788).jpg

I uploaded the picture for HTC 7 Surround samrtphone to use on Wikipedia. Certainly, I considered it as a public image on HTC website but it appears to me, this upload is conflicting with the wikimedia policies. In order to resolve this conflict, should I just ask HTC to permit me to go with the uploaded image or is there a better way to resolve this issue? --Pak1standby (talk) 20:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

--Pak1standby (talk) 20:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

You need permission from HTC in order to submit it to Wikimedia Commons. Additionally, the image needs to be licensed under a free licence. Failure to do so will lead to deletion of the image. See COM:OTRS for instructions on how to obtain permission. --Stefan4 (talk) 23:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for weighing-in. I have emailed the request on commons permission with the required information (HTC copyright email address). Hopefully, the results will be published soon. --Pak1standby (talk) 15:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Part of Funnel for Titanic.jpg

Don't know what type of license is in this file File:Part of Funnel for Titanic.jpg. Could anybody help me with it?

--Antonynizh (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

If the author is really unknown, I think it would be public domain. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 21:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Kleenmaid Logo.jpg


I am trying to upload a logo for the company I work for, I am unsure about the copyright rules that I need to select to allow it to be used publicly. This image can also be copied off our website

--Kantstephens (talk) 00:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Looks like it's probably {{pd-ineligible}}. Maybe a bit on the margin of that because the geometric shapes are not the absolute simplest. - Jmabel ! talk 00:41, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
    • It's Australian. Isn't Australian threshold of originality supposed to be almost as low as the British one? I'm not convinced that this is ineligible for copyright in the source country. --Stefan4 (talk) 01:05, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

I have been tracking this image

File:The-Battle-of-Glorieta-Pass.jpg from wikipedia and have ended up here. I'm not really a Common sort of guy, so am not sure quite where to go, so will just blurt it out here. I think that this image is a copyright violation. It is listed as public domain, but the painter is, I think, still alive. The image was likely taken from here. [4]. What do we do now? Carptrash (talk) 05:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

did some research, and indeed the artist is still alive. Nominated the file for deletion.--Trex2001 (talk) 06:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


Ich suche ein Bild, das im Dateinamen LARS führt. Mit diesem begriff suchen heißt, in ca. 8.500 Suchergebnissen suchen zu wollen, wobei die bildvorschau pro seite 20 bilder aufweist (standardeinstellung) max aber 500. Da das gesuchte bild anfang 2012 erstellt worden sein muss, meine frage: Kann ich meine suche auch auf ein einstelldatum hin auswählen?-- 07:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Screen Shot of a Free Reading Application was deleted

Added a screen shot of a Free Washington Post Social Reader for Facebook yesterday in an article I'm creating about social reader applications. This is link of the file I got while updating (Washington Post Social Reader.png)

Now here are the details which I could see on the deletion process (Screenshot of non-free content: Web site) (global usage; delinker log)

Now I'm not able to understand. Washington Post is offering it's news free, also Washington Post Social Reader for Facebook is offering free content, which people are allowed to post and share on their profiles. So by my instincts, this reader screen shot deletion might be reconsidered. Azeemi92 (talk) 07:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Washington Post and that reader are gratis free (i.e. could obtain them for no price), but Commons accepts only libre free content (content that can be reused for any purpose, redistributed, modified, and so on for free without strong restrictions). Read w:Gratis versus libre and Commons:Licensing. Generally, you can't upload website screenshots, because while you can obtain them for no price, such screenshots are still copyrighted if they were not explicitly released under a free license. --Trycatch (talk) 07:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Government Image

I have the image for an politician integral in my article (see Sgr2124 sandbox). The url is The picture shown is the one I would like to use and he has not messaged me back about using it. Would it still be okay to use since it's a government website showing the image?


acc. to their website disclaimer:
Photos of House and Senate Members on the individual NCGA Web Site member webpages are not published on the NCGA Web Site until we receive copyright release from the photographer so these specific photos are considered in the public domain once they are published on the NCGA Web Site.

so it should be Template:PD-USGov--Trex2001 (talk) 14:23, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

PD-USGov would not do. Maybe something like "PD-because | its author released it to the public domain per the North Carolina General Assembly Web Site disclaimer" -- Asclepias (talk) 14:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Can't find the syntax problem

File:PanoramaFromCastleRockSeymour1905.jpg, recently transferred from en-wiki says 'Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character "{".' I can't find the problem, but probably someone can. - Jmabel ! talk 06:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

This must be a problem in one of the templates. I removed the inessential templates, only leaving the one which shows the license.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Max/2 used with no arguments produced this error message, because {{{1}}} was not substituted by the argument value by the preprocessor, so the expression evaluator failed to parse it. --Trycatch (talk) 07:34, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 15:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Giovanni Bottesini

The German Wikipedia has a picture of the composer Giovanni Bottesini, taken around 1865: Datei:BottesiniTestore.jpg. The picture was taken more than 100 years ago and it is highly probable that the unknown photographer died more than 70 years ago.

Is it therefore allowable to transfer the file to Wikimedia Commons? And if it is, how can I do that? Sijtze Reurich (talk) 09:27, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Given the age of the photo, it is probably in the public domain in both the United States and Italy, which is what is required in order to upload the photo here. It is in the public domain in Italy because it was taken more than 20 years ago. There are, I believe, only two ways for it to be copyrighted in the United States:
  1. The photographer is not anonymous but identified and was still alive in 1942 and the photo wasn't published anywhere before 2003. Wikipedia sometimes states that a photographer is anonymous although this isn't the case.
  2. The photo remained unpublished at least until the end of 1922, was no longer unpublished by the end of 2002 and certain other conditions also apply.
Both situations seem highly unlikely to me, so I would assume that it is also in the public domain in the United States.
For the copyright status in Italy, you can use {{PD-Italy}} (although {{PD-old-70}} most likely also is true). For the copyright status in the United States, use {{PD-1923}} if it was published somewhere before 1923, or {{PD-US-unpublished}} if it was not published anywhere before 2003. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I have uploaded the file and added the copyright tags you suggested. Sijtze Reurich (talk) 07:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Christine Bulliard-Marbach.jpg

Ich habe gestern eine neue Seite für eine Schweizer Politikerin erstellt. Nach einem Vergleich mit anderen nationalen Politikern, habe ich das Foto von unter unter die Vorlage {{}} gesetzt. Leider habe ich unter der Lizenz keine Angabe gemacht und weiss nicht welche Angaben jetzt noch nötig sind, damit der Lizenzhinweis wegfällt und das Bild verwendet werden kann.

--Wuyuay (talk) 11:34, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Ich habe die Bildbeschreibungsseite entsprechend korrigiert. Es fehlt noch der Datumseintrag. Sonst ist alles ok! Gruß --Wvk (talk) 11:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


If I am wrong, but I want to place it on the license template {{GFDL-1.2}} can help me, please.? - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitrubius32 (talk • contribs)

  • I have no idea what you are trying to ask. In particular, the referent of "it" is completely unclear. If you can ask more clearly in some other language, please do; someone will certainly be able to read it. - Jmabel ! talk 23:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Using a photo straight from a photographer which is not online?


I've never uploaded a photo before, so please forgive me... I'm currently trying to find a better picture for the Wikipedia article I have been in contact with a photographer, Jennifer Dreier, who is a friend of the band and often takes photos of them, such as at live events or in photoshoots. She has agreed to release one of her photos under a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 license for me to use in the Wikipedia article.

However, the photo we have chosen to use is one which has not been published in any form yet - she has over 150gbs of pictures of them, and only a few have been ever put online or used. Because our conversation has taken part via Facebook messages, I don't have a way of easily sharing it (except maybe screenshots?) either.

I have asked her to email me with a consent letter (following a template on Wikipedia, which I can forward to the correct permissions address.) But whilst the email she uses is in her name (personal email deleted) it is not connected to any official site because she uses her Tumblr ( to publish pictures or allows the bands she has shot to do so, and word of mouth/the studio she works for to find jobs.

Basically, what is the easiest way for me to show that I have been given permission from the original photographer if the photo is not online on an website linked to the email? And what should I put in the 'Original source' area of the Upload form?

Chaotezy (talk) 21:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

  • I've taken the liberty of deleting a personal email address; not usually a good thing to post here.
  • It would generally be best if she sends directly to the permissions address and cc's you.
  • We usually take OTRS permissions at face value; if someone is in doubt, they can presumably contact her at the Tumblr account to verify.
  • Source could be any of several things; I'd suggest "Photo by Jennifer Dreier (Contact:".
- Jmabel ! talk 00:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Where are my photos, and why are they not searchable?

I have recently uploaded photos of my own to wikimedia commons, and when i search to find the public record, none of them are there. Why can't the images be searched by others? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlsra (talk • contribs) 2012-04-13T19:26:59 (UTC)

See Special:ListFiles/Mlsra. --Stefan4 (talk) 19:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

North Korean Government photos?

I've come across a photo of a Korean People's Air Force MiG-29 with Kim Jong Un and members of Unit 1017 of the KPAF assembled in front of said jet. Since the Wikipedia article on the KPAF is quite short of photos of aircraft of the KPAF, I thought it would be a good idea to at least consider adding the photo to the article, but of course there's the issue of copyright - it was published by the North Korean government and has since cropped up all over the web.

( - Pause it at 06:22 to see the image. The image is part of a slideshow broadcast by Korean Central Television)

To add, or not to add, that is the question.

--Armchair Ace (talk) 00:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

(addendum : We seem to use the KCTV test card without encountering copyright issues, if that's anything to go by)

Selection diagram

I have uploaded an image drawn by me. I chose the right license? Change and correct if necessary. thx --NonIscritto (talk) 22:21, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Looks ok to me :-) -- RE rillke questions? 23:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

can not upload

for quite a while i can not upload files. when i try to upload the uploading stucks and not coming to an end. what's wrong? what to do? thanks. Eitan f (talk) 05:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Please try the basic form when upload wizard does not work. Otherwise please tell us what exactly happens (is the browser still expositiveresponsive, exact URL, which browser, version). Thanks. -- RE rillke questions? 14:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
What do you mean by "expositive"? I'm a native English speaker with an advanced degree, and I'm not aware of any meaning of that word other than, oddly enough, as an adjective describing writing that states or clarifies one's meaning." - Jmabel ! talk 14:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
My orthography-checker must have replaced this word... and I did not check before posting. -- RE rillke questions? 23:26, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
using the old form, URL: the uploading indicator (at the lower strip on the screen) is going green about halfway and then stuck. after some twelve minutes the screen changes to "internet explorer cannot display this web page" and URL the browser is windows internet explorer 8. what to do? Eitan f (talk) 04:40, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Can you upload this particular file to another website such as tinipic, senspace, ...? What's the file size? Are you able to upload other files to Commons? -- RE rillke questions? 23:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
after at least 20 tries, this morning Biscutella didyma.JPG was uploded. i have no explanation. similar experiance i had also with the previose upload. it was easylly uploaded to picasa. thank you. Eitan f (talk) 06:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Uploading Images

If I have got the permission of a person who created a logo to upload it, would that be allowed? - unsigned

  • If that person is the copyright holder, and if the permission conforms to Commons:OTRS, then yes. Otherwise, typically no. - Jmabel ! talk 22:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Театр на Басманной.png

--Юллия (talk) 14:22, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

© 2010 -- RE rillke questions? 23:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps, if it is in scope, it could go as {{textlogo}}. -- RE rillke questions? 23:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Please check my first template

Hello, might someone please be so kind to check if my first-ever try to make a template went well (technically, language and compliance with the rules for templates)? Template:Category definition: Cathead German road sign number. Thanks! --Rudolph Buch (talk) 17:57, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps you could also ask on COM:Forum? After I had a glad look, it looks good to me :-) -- RE rillke questions? 23:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Request for make a image category in Wikimedia Commons

I have upload some image of Bangladeshi film actor Riaz, it use for English Wikipedia article like Riaz (actor) as well as Bengali Wikipedia liked as রিয়াজ. Therefor, please made a image category in Wikimedia Commons like as Category:Riaz (actor). Kindly see my Image Upload page, With Thanks--Abu Nayeem (talk) 13:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Anyone can create a Commons category. Just go to Category:Riaz (actor), edit the page, and add the parent categories exactly as you would on an image page. - Jmabel ! talk 16:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Adding a photograph

I have some old photographs of (deceased) people whom I had previously written articles about on Wikipedia. In some cases, the photographs were personally given to me by the person's family. All the photographs are more than 60 years old and I have scanned them onto my computer.

Can I include these photographs in the appropriate articles... and if I can, then how do I do this...

Thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Seamanjg (talk • contribs)

The answer is "probably not". The copyright in most those cases will probably reside with the original photographer, and the copyright remains valid for 70 years (in most countries) after the photographer's death. There are some special cases, which you'll find at Commons:Licensing, but we would need positive evidence that one of those exceptions applies. Powers (talk) 19:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia and wiki-epicurus

I have created login for Wikipedia and Wikimedia but have been unable to create login for wiki-epicurus. Please provide guidance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aksoldat (talk • contribs) 2012-04-16T19:58:45 (UTC)

If you mean Epicurus Wiki (I can't find anything called "wiki-epicurus"), you need to create a local account there as it is not a Wikimedia Foundation project. I'm not sure if anyone here knows how to do that (the usual process at Special:Userlogin appears to be disabled), so you will probably have to ask someone from that project how to create an account instead. --Stefan4 (talk) 20:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Disable certain signature styles

Is there any way to disable cartain signature styles, such as those of Peter Weis at Can't I somehow replace this with something else? To call myself "annoyed" at it would be a gross understatement. —Pill (talk) 10:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Only if he would wrap a <span class="peterweis user-signature">...signature here...</span> around his signature. I suggested this to him before but maybe you could do it again. In this specific case, he would only have to add class="peterweis user-signature" to his outer span element.
If this is done, you could use a custom CSS to restyle his signature. If he is not inclined to change it, we will have to use JavaScript but this is slower. -- RE rillke questions? 23:22, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
It's not very cricket of you to discuss this issue without me in the first place. As long as I don't violate any guidelines or policies, I don't intend to change my signature. Feel free to propose a change of Commons:Signatures or present any evidence of violation. Regards, PETER WEIS TALK 23:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Erm, that's not what I meant and wrote. I want a "personal" solution to this problem, as Rillke rightly interpreted (that's also why I'm asking this on the help desk page ...). @Rillke, thanks a lot, can you perhaps tell me how I can solve the issue through javascript? (if that can be realized easily). Cheers, —Pill (talk) 00:08, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
$('a[title="User:Peter Weis"]').parent().removeAttr('style').find('*').removeAttr('style');
into your vector.js should do the job. -- RE rillke questions? 00:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
works fine, thank you so much! —Pill (talk) 00:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
You should not change the signature in a visible way. Just adding classes allowing people to turn off the style, like I did now. (You don't see any difference) If you feel offended, I regret this. It is not about you, it's just about your signature. But you have to admit, it is neither coming out of the blue, nor were you inclined to change your signature, so I simply answered the question of Pill according to the facts. -- RE rillke questions? 00:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
"It is not about you" - what a convincing logic. Of course it is about me. You are offering code for the sole purpose of filtering my modified signature. How more personal do you think this is going to be? It's sad to notice that none of you have the guts to propose a change of our guidelines and policies on that particular issue, but prefers to publicly present code indicated for the cleansing of unpleasant signatures. @"You should not change the signature in a visible way." - Given that the purpose of this endeavour will result in changing the signature in a visible way, this argumentation is utterly nonsense. I am bewildered by this evidence of incapacity for logic argumentation. Regards, PETER WEIS TALK 01:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I hardly think it better to call for more policies and guidelines then to try and talk it out with the person in question, or to solve the problem for yourself. Given that they have tried talking it out were trying to solve the problem using private solutions, I hardly see how you have the moral high ground here.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:44, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Offering code to turn your signature back to a normal style is not against a policy. If you disagree with my behaviour, feel free to suggest and discuss such a policy.
Maybe your signature is some type of protest against the absence of a guide/policy towards the signature-style? In this case you have to blame yourself not to start a discussion. Kind regards -- RE rillke questions? 08:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The CSS class would only affect your signature's styling for users who add a matching rule in their own settings. It would not affect the look for you or for users who have not opted to filter out your signature styling. Several users find your signature distracting and annoying. You've refused polite requests to make your signature less obtrusive. You've also refused requests to add invisible markup to your signature which would give others the option of rendering your signature in a less hysterical manner, but which would not affect you in any way. Insisting that you have the right to cause needless annoyance simply because there is no policy mentioning this precise type of disruption is not helpful. We don't have policies that codify every silly little thing you shouldn't do. If we did, they would be so long that nobody would bother reading them. That said, Commons:Talk page guidelines#Markup discourages excessive use of markup on talk pages, and in my opinion, your signature runs afoul of that. Of course, that guideline doesn't mean that wrapping an otherwise constructive talk page entry in <big> tags is a blockable offence in the first instance, but if you stubbornly insist on being a nuisance to others for no good reason, then I think that if the solution that they use to deal with it does not affect you and is completely invisible to you, you can count yourself lucky. LX (talk, contribs) 16:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Commons en français ??

Ahem...Il y aurait un moyen d'avoir le mode d'emploi en VF ?! Pas que j'ai un mauvais niveau en anglais, mais pour débuter, ce serait plus facile...--Bobybarman (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Visitez Commons:Service d'aide peut-être. --ClemRutter (talk) 16:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Le «mode d'emploi» sur les projets wiki, ça peut souvent être assez éparpillé mais, quand même, vous devriez trouver des bons points de départ dans les pages suivantes. Je les mets dans un ordre qui me semble assez logique pour un débutant :
-- Asclepias (talk) 06:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Image copyright problem

Hello. Earlier I uploaded these two images (File:Emily Symons.jpg and File:Jordy Lucas.jpg) via the flickr upload bot. I had asked the photorapher if they could be used on the project and he changed the license - even after I double checked everything. Then he later informed me that he had already sold all the copyrights to these images and all of the others in his set to a print publication - meaning that he should not of endorsed their usage on the project in the first place. I have never had this happen before and obviously they need to be removed as the copyright holder did not endorse their usage.Raintheone (talk) 00:41, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

See also the discussion at Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Image Removal from WikiPedia. --Stefan4 (talk) 01:48, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Polygon-company--logo.png

Can anyone help me with decision about this file? What kind of license i should apply to it?

--Choodo (talk) 10:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


HELLO FRIEND AND I LIKE TO CHAT WITH NEW MEMBER AND CALL SOMETHING NEW BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW I SUBMIT PAGE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamleshp798 (talk • contribs) 2012-04-17T11:50:20 (UTC)

Go to Special:UploadWizard to upload it. Before uploading it, make sure that it is available under a free licence or is in the public domain. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Photo may need tagging

I came here from this help desk post. User:Sheled Umlal uploaded File:Otway and Fan.jpg. Per this post, it appears that User:Sheled Umlal is the "fan" doing the peace sign in the image File:Otway and Fan.jpg. Since User:Sheled Umlal is in the photo, it seem unlikely that he could have pushed the camera button and, thus, it is unlikely that he is the copyright holder of this work as claimed on the uploaded image page. Would you mind looking into this. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:25, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Clicking the shutter does not always determine the copyright holder. For example, If I do the settings and adjustments on my camera, hand the camera to someone, tell them exactly where to point it, and set up the pose for a picture of myself, I almost certainly own the copyright. That said, the picture looks pretty useless for an article, but would be appropriate for the user's own user page. - Jmabel ! talk 15:02, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Please, delete this drawing I have regreted to upload it. Thank you. Franco-eisenhower (talk) 19:30, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Recent upload, not very useful, I'll delete as a courtesy to the uploader. - Jmabel ! talk 05:37, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you!Franco-eisenhower (talk) 06:52, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 01:33, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Mike Picture Photo by Annette Rodriguez.jpg

--Nicholas Custer (talk) 22:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC) Good evening - I have the explicit permission of the original photographer for this image (via email/phone) and do not know how to properly tag this, as she (miss Annette Rodriguez) does not want this file taken down from its respective wiki page. Please let me know how to go about this, as I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

Hello, You have explicit permission for doing what, exactly? Did the author explicitely write to you that she was releasing that photo under the terms of the Creative Commons public domain dedication? If so, please ask her to send a direct confirmation of that status as explained on the help page Commons:OTRS. (If not, please remove the CC dedication tag from the page.) -- Asclepias (talk) 23:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello - she has given me explicit permission to post it along with Mike Rio's wiki, as well as anything else related to Mike Rio. She would absolutely not object to the Creative Commons public domain terms. I will have her email such to what recipient is necessary, can you provide said email? I have very much like to have this matter resolved. Thanks. Nicholas Custer (talk) 01:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Fosse mouras.png


I upload two figures last Thursday on Wikimedia Commons (Fosse mouras.png is one of them). I received the following warning

The uploader did not provide sufficient information (a valid and suitable tag) on this media's copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided, the file could be deleted seven days after the upload (12 April 2012). Please note that Commons does not accept files claimed under fair use. It is suggested to read the intro of Commons' licensing policy, about essential information and (in many cases) about Internet images. If you need help ask at the Commons:Help desk.

My problem is that I do not know how to provide the supplementary information requested (which I have now). I was unable (sorry) to find the solution on the help pages.

Thank you for your help.

best regards --Lamartinebb (talk) 07:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Click on the "Edit" tab on the top (or on one of the smaller "edit" links in the section you want to edit), remove {{Remove this line and insert a license instead}} template, and add one of the allowed licensing templates (for example, {{PD-old}}). --Trycatch (talk) 07:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Starmites.jpg

Greetings! Just looking for the proper way to tag the image I uploaded. I own the original document: a theatre program issued in 1988, by the now defunct American Stage Festival of Milford, NH. The ASF has been out of business since 2000. This simply serves as a historic document, showing that this play was staged in between its off-Broadway run, and its Broadway production. Thank you for your assistance.

--Spiehler (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Is there a copyright notice anywhere in the document? A copyright notice should be something like "© 1988 American Stage Festival". --Stefan4 (talk) 14:47, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

There is no indication of any copyright anywhere in the document. Spiehler (talk) 16:13, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

In that case, it is presumably {{PD-US-1978-89}}, unless the festival registered a copyright within 5 years (which is unlikely). --Stefan4 (talk) 16:14, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! That fits the bill perfectly. Spiehler (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 00:32, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

deleting with abandon

Well, Wikipedia Commons did warn me: The great majority of images downloaded from the Web are not properly "licenced" and therefore will be deleted, and deleted they are.

I downloaded pics of 19th century maps of India, postcards published in 1905. They were deleted in due time by a paranoid Wikipedia Commons as I didn't prove beyond a doubt that the individuals who took those pics is 1905 died "70 years or more" ago (or is it 100 years?). So I also deleted the numerous sourced edits to the French India article that were to accompany these pics.

What I have left are a few "own work" personal pics of Roatan, etc. Unsurprisingly enough, Wikipedia Commons ends up being a galactic-size "own work" scrapbook of landscapes, sceneries, travel pics and city scenes with little or no substance.--Lubiesque (talk) 21:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Well, no. It also contains tons of things where someone has gone to the trouble to track down sources and make sure they are legal to upload. Although I primarily do my own photography, here are some examples off the top of my head from my own uploads: the entire Category:Seattle and the Orient and Category:Representative Citizens of the City of Seattle and County of King - 1903 (public domain because published in US before 1923); the entire Category:PD Seattle Neighborhood Atlas (where I contacted the Seattle City Archivist to clarify permission; we also have several hundred, maybe a thousand, images that were made for the city government and were similarly licensed); etc. Obviously, that pre-1923 rule for the U.S. makes things simpler here, but I'd have to say, most 19th century maps should be fair game, especially if published before about 1870 and certainly if published before about 1860. What part of the century were these maps from? If they were 1890s, and not inherently anonymous, and the author's birth and death dates are unknown, then sadly the precautionary principle does say we can't use them: someone working in, say, 1895, could easily have been born in 1870 and lived into the mid-20th century. There is a chance they haven't been dead for even 50 years. Now, push those dates back 25 years and it's a different picture; ditto if we know that the original author was born before 1840, even if we don't specifically know when he/she died. - Jmabel ! talk 00:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Philibert Cockx.jpg

--Paulgosselin (talk) 07:35, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

The Belgian artist died in 1949, which is less than 70 years ago, so the image is still copyrighted in Belgium and possibly also in the United States, depending on when it was first published. You need to ask for permission from his heirs to license this under a free licence and send the permission to OTRS. See COM:OTRS for instructions. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:36, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:FICS Signet.jpg

Es ist das Logo unserer Förderation,die ich als Generalsekretär vertrete - siehe Homepage Was kann/muss ich mehr liefern? In 2009 war unser Logo sogar Teil der Ausstellung SOUND ESCAPES in London.

--Heli101 (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Audo-listen statistics

Page view statistics exist. I don't know if image-view statistics exist for commons files. What about audio-listen, because they aren't loaded separately on a page. I made

after hearing the need to improve the AIDS page at Wikimania last year. But I want to know if it's actually being used. Thanks Maximilianklein (talk) 21:18, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Promising Promises.jpg

How do I change the summary so more sufficient information could be added to prevent deletion from possibly occurring? I want to mention and emphasize how all of the Promising Promises cover art is needed in order for identification for buy to occur.

--ProtegoMaxima (talk) 04:49, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

  • The only way you could do that is to follow COM:OTRS and provide evidence of licensing of this image by its copyright holder. You also might want to read COM:Scope for why this is the case. - Jmabel ! talk 08:51, 21 April 2012 (UTC)



The above file was uploaded by me long back but in spite of several times changing and editing by me it could not be visible on the screen. Only a small X is visible on top left corner and nothing else. Kindly see the file's history and help me to solve my problem. It will be so kind of you. Thanks, :Dr.'Krant'M.L.Verma (talkEmail)Krantmlverma (talk) 06:34, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Replied on COM:VP#File:Krantmlverma.jpg. Please do not crosspost without linking. Thank you! -- RE rillke questions? 10:46, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Hauptbahnhof Oldenburg um 1916.jpg

Die o.g. Datei hatte ich bereits unter Wikipedia:Dateiüberprüfung/1923 zur Diskussion gestellt und mein OK bekommen. Nur wusste ich wohl nicht, das und wie ich anschliessend einen entsprechenden Lizenzbaustein setzen muß, also wurde die Datei gelöscht. Was muß ich wie tun. Danke. HOPflaume (talk)

Ja, das ist ein wahrer Dschungel bei uns auf Commons. Ich hoffe ich konnte die passenden wählen. Siehe Commons:Lizenzvorlagen oder einfach template:PD in's Suchfeld eintippen und dann kommen schon viele Vorschläge. -- RE rillke questions? 11:21, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Why have you deleted my photo?

Someone deleted a photo of my father that I published to a Wikipedia page that someone created for him. His page is here:

His photo was called Arthur_Naparstek.jpg.

I own this photo and have released it into the public domain. This has *always* been a public domain photo. It was his official portrait as Dean of the Mandel School of Applied Social Sciences at Case Western Reserve University. There was absolutely no justification for deleting this photo. I appear to be unable to re-upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons. I am very frustrated by this. Can you help me with this?

--Naparstek (talk) 04:29, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

If it was his official portrait as Dean, I'm not sure why you think it has always been a public domain photo or why you have the right to release it into the public domain. It seems likely to me that the copyright was owned by the photographer, or possible the University if the photographer worked for them.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:00, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
In the future, please don't post things to two different places at the same time. Future discussion should take place at Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Arthur_Naparstek.jpg.--Prosfilaes (talk) 14:26, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Prosfilaes (talk) 14:26, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
[Some personal data of a Wikimedia Commons user was inserted here; it was suppressed on 22:52, 30 December 2012 (UTC) by me.] odder (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:LyudiInvalid cover.jpg

Hallo! Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass die hochgeladene Datei keine Schöpfungshöhe aufweist. Allerdings weiß ich nicht, ob dies auch tatsächlich der Fall ist, und ebensowenig wie ich eine Lizenz angeben kann. Ich bräuchte da fachmännischen Rat. :) Gruß, --Swie (talk) 14:53, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Swie (talk) 09:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Extreme distortion in scope?

Are images that provide totally false portrayal of the reality educational? E.g a bridge bent 180 degrees, a church turned 90 degrees from the wall or an image showing a sharp cape where the coastline bends near 180 degrees though actually it's about 50 degrees? 16:15, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

These are typical of panoramic images. They are perfectly "real"; they simply use a different perspective than the one naturally seen by the human eye. The first one is a 360° panorama, which should typically be viewed with an appropriate viewer. Saying these are "totally false" is like saying a verbal description is totally false because the word "blue" is not blue. - Jmabel ! talk 23:05, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I wouldn't say they are typical. A good panorama should me more like this, which is just a wide image where angles are quite right. Ok, as for 360° I might realize that something is wrong with it and that it's a panoramic image. But as for the church example you probably wouldn't even tell that it's a panoramic image without having been there yourself. I don't find this is "real", it's just misleading. 06:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Above three panoramic images seems such type of data format automatically photographed by the fully rotated panoramic camera. Currently, Wikipedia/Wikimedia seems not enough support these formats, however, if we could see these images through the appropriate viewers such like a QuickTime VR or similar web services using Adobe Flash, it may be enough educational, very realistic landscapes. I'm looking forward the appropriate support of these formats in the future on the Wikipedia/Wikimedia. :) --Clusternote (talk) 07:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Your example is a rectilinear projection. That's practical up to about a 120° view. Beyond that it is not. I'm sorry, but I find it counterproductive to suggest that only one type of projection for panoramas should be permitted, especially if that effectively means that we can't have panoramas beyond roughly 120°. - Jmabel ! talk 15:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
It'd be useful if they all at least clearly stated they were panoramas and mentioned how many degrees they covered.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:28, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Photo The Masaï 1987

A new Wikipedian added an old photo of his band File:The Masaï 1987.jpg. The photo was taken for him with his camera by his sister, so it is his photo. No one else has the photo and it hasn't been published before. Now the source is being questioned by Zelenko, see here. I think it's nonsense to ask the newbe to ask his sister to give formal permission to publish the photo. It isn't here photograph! But Zelenko is stubbornly refusing to accept the photograph - I begged him on my bare knees, but more I will not do. I think this is a bad thing for wellwilling Wikipedians - we should encourage them instead of disencourage them with kafkaesque rules; this has nothing to do with copyright. This way you're driving people away. So please help to settle this matter, without the nonsense of sisters or partners having to give formal permission - if I ask an unknown chinese person to take a picture of me, I cannot publish it without his permission?? - howabsurd can it be? Thanks.--Queeste (talk) 14:58, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I've notified User:EugeneZelenko, User:Miura and nl:Gebruiker:Miura about this discussion on their talk pages. I think the problem is that it was the uploader's sister who took the photo, so she is the copyright holder. Commons is very strict with copyright matters, which might make things a bit difficult for new users. Would it be too much trouble for the user's sister to send an e-mail to OTRS? There are e-mail templates at COM:OTRS which can be used. --Stefan4 (talk) 15:15, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Who says she's the copyright holder? Which law? So nobody can add his own picture, because it almost certainly was made by someone else. The unknown Chinese person has the copyright of the photo on my camera??? This must be Monty Python. There's plenty of own photo's - take this one: cannot be taken by herself, so she cannot give permission!--Queeste (talk) 16:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Ever heard of a self timer? SpeakFree (talk) 17:19, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
His sister's explicit permission would make the matter crystal clear. That said, snapping the shutter is not sufficient to be the holder of a copyright, even if the two usually go hand in hand. I've certainly never heard any of any court saying that if Person A does the settings on a camera, hands the camera to Person B to take a picture of Person A, and tells Person B essentially what angle to shoot, somehown Person B would own the copyright, not Person A. Can anyone point at even a single example of a court in any country ruling along those lines? - Jmabel ! talk 00:23, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone post to a single court case at all about snapshots like these? They're hardly aggressively litigated. If snapping the shutter was all that was done, then of course there wouldn't be a copyright. But if you stood over there, and they had some freedom over angle and distance, then it would probably cross the minimal level of copyrightability. I do think judges would have comments about the laws and trifles and "if you haven't settled this case by the time I'm back from lunch..." One of many cases where we're fighting with our careful/pedantic rules for following the copyright law.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:16, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Adding a photo to web site

I am trying to put this photo of BG James H. O”Neill on your web page:

I have been unable to do so. Can you help me? The photo was taken by the US Army Signal Corps in 1948, so it is clearly in the public domain. How do I get it put on this web page? Thanks for any help you could provide.

Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed (en:Deputy Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army).
The file is missing a valid source. "The photo was taken by the US Army Signal Corps in 1948" so it is not your own work. Please add the information and a valid license to the file description. (higher resolution) -- Common Good (talk) 18:21, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Unwanted phone numbers


sometime, how for instance here: File:The National Archives UK - CO 1069-37-154.jpg are changed a part of the file name into international phone numbers permanently. A bug or wanted? Can one not create a special template for phone numbers? It's the case only at few file names, not at other similar number combinations. --Katharinaiv (talk) 17:17, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Where do you see phone numbers? Some web browsers, such as Opera Mini and Opera Mobile, identify long numbers on a web page as a phone number and include a clickable link for calling that number. If this is what is happening to you, this is a feature in your web browser and not something which can be controlled by Wikimedia Commons. If you don't like this, you need to switch it off in your web browser's settings. --Stefan4 (talk) 19:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Ah, okay, I have updated the browsers to Firefox v.12.0. and Safari v.5.1.5. and now it seems that the problem has been resolved. Thank you very much for this advice. --Katharinaiv (talk) 19:55, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Updating to higher resolution?

I've loaded a picture with copyright permission given (ticket info available etc.).File:Dowdeswellreservoir.jpg. Having now been using The Commons for some time, I can see it is important to have higher resolution available. I do have a higher resolution version of the picture from the author, and would like to update that already loaded with this version. Does this mean I have to re-do the copyright permission or can I update the version to this higher resolution version? Where a picture uploaded is mine I have been uploading higher resolution where appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjeans (talk • contribs) 2012-04-25T09:41:16 (UTC)

If you only have permission for a low-resolution version, you need to get a new permission for any high-resolution version. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Sitzendorf Kirche Grundriss.jpg

Da ich meinen Usernamen von Manfred1 auf Manfred kuzel geändert habe, wären diese Angaben auch in der Lizenz {{Sitzendorf permission}} zu korrigieren und der Hinweis auf die unzureichenden Urheberrechtsinformationen in der Dateibeschreibung zu löschen. MfG

--Manfred Kuzel (talk) 08:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Manfred, habe ich erledigt (siehe Lizenzvorlagenversionsgeschichte). Wenn du mit dem Hochladeassistent hochlädst, dann ist für deine Lizenzierungsart eigentlich die Option "Ein weiterer, nicht oben erwähnter Grund" vorgesehen. Dort kannst du {{Sitzendorf permission}} eintragen. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 16:06, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Danke Saibo für die gewohnt prompte und unbürokratische Erledigung. Herzliche Grüße --Manfred Kuzel (talk) 11:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 16:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Two copies of German image file

File talk:Wheatstone bridge.png I reuploaded this image from the German WP. There seems to be a tag there now about the move. If someone is concerned about there being an extra copy and reads German, they may wish to do the appropriate stuff.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:16, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

When moving a file from Wikipedia to Commons, make sure that you include the file uploading history. Also make sure that the file on Commons is in the same format as the one on Wikipedia. In this case, you have changed a JPG file into a PNG file. Consider using Commons Helper instead to prevent errors in the transfer. --Stefan4 (talk) 22:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Oops, sorry. I didn't realize at the time that there was a transfer bot. I machine translated the licence to translate as free use. I gave it attribution because the last line of translation seemed to indicate that. Is there a way to fix my fubar?--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
It's actually a Kelvin bridge, not a Wheatstone bridge, according to the German article --Robot Monk (talk) 04:52, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I fixed the wheatstone bridge article. We wanted an image for it on the talk page and a German said we could use his. That is where all the confusion started. They look and function exactly the same on the outside, the Kelvin bridge just adds finer bits inside. The E-Meter image was there for a while, but not PC enough I assume. I seems images of Wheatsone bridges are rarer then the meters, we used to make them in school and tear them apart after a few days.--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:15, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Media of the day template

I am having problems making this look right: Template:Motd/2012-12-20. The whole month of December looked wrong so I copied the format from November. I put a file in to test, but it doesn't seem to match the other Motd pages.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Picture for upload

I have found a picture of the subjects of my draft (awaiting comments) Wiki Page on [Huw & Tony Williams] I am being assisted in this work by Huw Williams. The photo is by a chap called Lee Robson (Musings of a Libertine on Tumblr) and I have found, through Google, a photo on Lee's Tumblr pages (i.e. in the public domain) that was the *basis* of the cover of Huw & Tony's Live CD.

As the subject of the photo, does Huw not have some say in whether the image can be used? So if I get lee's permission to use the photo, can it remain in the Infobox on my submitted-for-review page? (I note that it was there yesterday but appears to have been removed earlier today?) [And if it has been removed, how do i get to find out (a) by whom (b) why?] — Preceding unsigned comment added by N1geD (talk • contribs) 2012-04-28T15:50:49 (UTC)

You need the copyright holders permission to a free license. See Commons:Project scope#Must be freely licensed or public domain or en:free content. A work is not public domain just because you can see it through google. You can not reuse a work or claim that the copyright holder agreed to free redistribution for money making purposes (you added {{Attribution}} to the file page) just because you found something with google.
The subject of the photo has no rights to use the photo or to allow others to use it. Maybe the subject can restrict the use of the photo under en:personality rights. But thats not the problem here, we only talk about copyrights. --Martin H. (talk) 17:02, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
See COM:OTRS for how to get third-party permission and probably en:public domain, since it sounds like you misunderstand the term "public domain". - Jmabel ! talk 17:07, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Portrait Hafiz PAKZAD 2 copie copier.jpg

hi wiki team,

i uploaded this file now when i open it there is a message from wiki regarding the photo licence stats could you please help me what information you need to proved before you delete the image??

image name: Portrait Hafiz PAKZAD 2 copie copier.jpg owner of this picture is Mr. Hafiz Pakzad, he is afghan living in france this image can be use by public since he hafiz pakzad is an artist and if you need any other information please let me know ?

for more information please contact him :

--Bamyan111 (talk) 08:20, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

License status (whether it has a valid license), not license stats (statistics pertaining to the license).
The problem is that there is no reason to think that you held the license to release it. You say that the source is a particular website, which does not say that the image is free to reuse. If you can get permission from the copyright holder of the image -- that would typically be the photographer, not the subject of the image -- please see COM:OTRS for how to pass that permission along. Otherwise, sorry, images that do not have a license allowing free reuse (including commercial reuse and editing) are outside of Commons scope. - Jmabel ! talk 18:08, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Wavemachine Siam Park.jpg

Mein hochgeladenes Bild ( soll gelöscht werden, dabei habe ich eh den Ureigentümer und die Webseite, wo ich das Bild herhabe angegeben. Brauche ich noch mehr Informationen. Bitte um Rat. Lg --Inflec (talk) 18:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Soweit alles richtig gemacht. Problem ist nur, dass der Rechteinhaber das Bild unter keiner freien Lizenz veröffentlicht hat. Der Rechteinhaber gestattet dir also, das Bild zu betrachten, nicht aber es zu kopieren, zu modifizieren oder für irgendwelche Zwecke zu nutzen, besonders nicht für kommerzielle Zwecke. Das Bild ist unfrei. Wikimedia Projekte sind Projekte für freie Inhalte, siehe Commons:Projektrahmen#Muss frei lizenziert oder gemeinfrei sein. Unfreie Dateien darfst du nicht hochladen. --Martin H. (talk) 19:08, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Can I upload this image here?

Here is the link to the info on the image:

Here is the direct URL of the image:

Since it was from a newspaper, is it considered public? I found several similar images from which I think Sacramento Bee got it from: (Here is the original image, I should have taken it from here lol)

Thanks for your time. -CA

PS: I am not a professional editor, this is the only thing I have ever tried to do.

  • I'm not sure what you mean by "considered public" but, no, you can't upload the image to Commons without obtaining the permission of the copyright holder. The fact that a picture was published by no means waives copyright (although, before someone raises the irrelevant technicality, a picture first published in the U.S. before 1923 would now necessarily be in the public domain.) - Jmabel ! talk 00:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey thanks, so er. I guess I contact the Sacramento Bee about who holds the copyright to it, thanks. If they give me permission, how do I go about following any legalities about it??

Please don't forget to sign talk pages with ~~~~ as to have a timestamp an your username next to your comment. Please read Commons:OTRS on how to send in images from a third party. --Vera (talk) 10:44, 30 April 2012 (UTC)