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Copyright help regarding File:Orao IIC.jpg

I uploaded an edited version of the existing File:Jedrilica Ikarus-Letov Orao Iic.JPG which is published under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported copyright, but am told the copyright info is missing. How do I add this to the modified image? The originator has made it clear that any mods should use the same copyright.

--TSRL (talk) 10:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I've added a CC-BY-SA tag but am not clear if this has helped.TSRL (talk) 10:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi TSRL, fixed: [1] and [2]. The license version of the cc-by-sa tag was not the correct one but you did indicate the source and author - that is a good start. The source file should be linked if possible. Please have a look how I made it and use derivativeFX to upload modifications of existing images - that makes it easier for you (but you still have the duty to check). Every understood or do you have any further questions? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 23:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

viewing ogg videos

Two Questions: (1) Why does every video I try to watch cut off at aprx 35-40 seconds? (2) My computer won't play downloaded ogg videos? How can I convert? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theraz69 (talk • contribs) 2012-04-27T20:57:36 (UTC)

I have that same issue recently. I used to be able to play the full length, after I recieved the 'older version of java' message and selected 'yes'. It may be a browser issue. I have only every used IE8 with WinXP S3 to view them though. I do have other browsers I haven't tried, and Category:VideoLAN is free software that you can play them with after download. Vlan seems to work fine on my 6 7-8 yr old computer.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, IE8 is horribly outdated, and Wikipedia uses some horrid Java applet Cortado to make IE and Safari play ogg videos. It seems that now Cortado is broken completely. Use Firefox, Chrome/Chromium or Opera instead -- all of them can play Ogg Theora natively just fine. Frankly, I don't understand people who voluntarily use outdated browsers, making their browsing experience sub-standard. --Trycatch (talk) 13:05, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I still run WinXP and IE8 is the latest version it will allow. I may have to upgrade to Win7, but only when I have to. My computer is 7-8 years old. I usually wait for all the smoke to leave (computers run on a limited supply of smoke) before I upgrade. I am glad it didn't leave when Vista was the OS by microsoft. I may finally try Linux some day and save the $90CDN on Win7.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:12, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Votic Flag.jpg

I uploaded more accurate flag of votes, but i just now realized that I hould have changed summary and lisence. Should I change those or delete that version and upload the new flag as a different file? If i upload it again, we would have two versions of the same flag. J.K Nakkila (talk) 20:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

This is the file i was talking about. J.K Nakkila (talk) 20:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Just edit the file description page; no need to re-upload. Powers (talk) 19:04, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi there

Could you please advise how to update the Bupa logo that appears here?

As the Bupa Online Brand Manager (world-wide) it's my responsibilty to update this but no one in the Group Marketing department has the authority (i.e. We have accounts but don't make enough edits to your site to have the authority to do so).

Since Wiki is a hugely popular site and has links to other social media site I'm hoping you can help me resolve this asap. Happy to arrange a formal request, and provide on corporate letterhead if needed.

Many thanks Hayley Jenkins

Online Brand Manager | Group Brand | Bupa, Level 4, 15 - 19 Bloomsbury Way, London WC1A 2BA T 020 7656 2186 (7725 2186) | M 07921 647 416 | F 020 7656 2716 | E:

I will look into it. Is there only the one Bupa logo image now, and would you like the other image kept for historical logo purposes?--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

✓ Done - I uploaded a new image. The older one is still in history of the image and can be deleted, I think.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:33, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Older image has been tagged for deletion by admin. Only the current image qualifies under fair use. I guess WP does not have a policy allowing 'archives of copyrighed logos' (kidding).--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Clarification: I tagged it for deletion (by substituting en:Template:Orfurrev), but I am not an admin. Per en:WP:NFCC#7, all non-free files have to be used in an article somewhere. The old version is not used in any article, so it needs to be deleted. --Stefan4 (talk) 16:21, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
My bad, it is confusing. It should read 'tagged, for deletion by admin.'--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:34, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Poster for Elena (film)

I bought a poster of Elena(film) fom Movie Poster DB for my Swedish entry of the russian film Elena. Can I upload it to my article and under what license?

No. Ownership on a copy of the poster does not mean that you can reproduce the poster and distribute copyies on the internet. --Martin H. (talk) 14:24, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
To clarify that slightly: ownership of a physical object and ownership of intellectual property rights are completely separate. In a more dramatic example, if you buy the sole instance of a painting, the artist still retains copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 23:27, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Are most WF logos copyright?

In that case all the logos in user talk pages on en:WP should not be allowed?

Afaik they do not care about internal usages in Wikimedia projects, like i.e. logos for jubilees or for community meetups, or easter and X-mas versions of the Wiki ball. We have plenty of these. --Martina talk 22:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Are Facebook photos acceptable image sources?


Yesterday I uploaded an image to Commons following all the instructions, intending to use it on Wikipedia; however, hours later I received a letter from someone from the OTRS response team telling me that the URL (source) was unacceptable. It's a Facebook link, which I will show here:

As you can see, the source shows very clearly the image that I uploaded, and the copyright owners agreed to release this picture based on that link that I provided (I also added an attachment with the same picture).

A Commons page, found here: says "If someone else created the content, or if it is based on someone else's work, the source should be the address to the web page where you found it,". Well, that's where I found it (on Facebook). One can't always find a clean link to a picture, so I think the source that I provided is fine.

Nevertheless, the person from the response team wrote under my source: "If you wish for text from another website to be included in Wikimedia projects, it must be released by the copyright holder under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 license, which may be viewed at <>.

He said this because the Facebook picture page has comments made by fans, but I didn't upload the comments. No text. I only uploaded a picture. I am not interested in uploading any comments. Please help me with this problem. Can I use the picture in the meantime at Wikipedia?

The picture at Commons is here:

Thanks in advance! Dontreader (talk) 02:28, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Who's the photographer? Kobac (talk) 03:24, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • In the letter I received from them, the twins stated that they themselves took the picture using a camera on a tripod. Does this help at all? They claim dual ownership of the photograph. Thanks for answering. I'm desperate at this point for help... Dontreader (talk) 03:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm not an OTRS-team member, but as far as I know the best way - sending letter with permission and attached photo directly (not via third person) to OTRS by photographer from his/her public e-mail address. It avoids a variety of misunderstandings. Kobac (talk) 04:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • That sounds great! I will try to get a reply from the guy who answered me from OTRS, and see if there's another solution because the twins have already been extremely kind, releasing my favorite picture of them, and I don't want to abuse, but if I don't get help from the OTRS department then I do think the girls will continue to cooperate. Many thanks! Dontreader (talk) 04:25, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • You can avoid contacts with OTRS. Photographer can upload photo to Flickr with CC-BY-SA license, then you can transfer it to Commons with Flickr2Commons (you must create a TUSC account) or with Flickr web tools (most simple service). Kobac (talk) 05:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • That looks incredibly convenient! I checked out the tool you showed, and it's very cool, but I wonder how much faster the team is at Flickr compared with OTRS for verification purposes. Certainly I'll look into it tomorrow no matter what! Thanks for the great info! Very much appreciated! Dontreader (talk) 07:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:CA-Seal-2color.jpg

I uploaded 3 files:

The owner of the images gave me permission to put them up, but I need a license, and I don't know if it has a creative commons license. What license will I need?

--JLevs106 (talk) 00:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Waterphone update

Hi, I am the inventor of the waterphone and have just edited that listing. I now want to replace the photo of Alex Wong playing a cheap knock off waterphone with a more detailed, current photo of one the the patented waterphones (the Whaler) and another photo showing a close up on a waterphone being bowed. Unfortunately, I have not been able to negotiate my way through the long and complex upload process.

Can you simplify this process so I can upload these 2 photos please? Thanks, Richard Waters

  • On Commons, we don't normally replace photos, we add new ones. You can then replace the image in the Wikipedia article by using the name of the new photo instead of the old one. If you were trying to replace a photo on Commons, that was most likely a bad idea, and it's no surprise you couldn't work out how to do it.
  • You don't give any indication of what you are finding difficult (or even which of several methods of uploading you are trying to use), so it's really hard to guess what someone could do to make it easier. Step one: do you have an account? You need an account to upload to Commons (though not to edit text). Assuming you do have an account, please sign your posts here with ~~~~, which will automatically turn into a useful link to that account (and a timestamp) for anyone who wants to follow up and help you. - Jmabel ! talk 23:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Assitance Finding Correct Licensing

Hello, I am trying to upload some images for actress Rue McClanahan since her Wikipedia page is in dire need of new photographs and I found three stunning ones that would be suitable:

The people who originally took the photographs are listed but I need help finding the correct license so that I can upload them properly without deletion. I welcome any adminstrator who may be able to assist me in the personal project.Carlton30458AZ (talk) 17:05, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

The images seem to be unfree. Don't upload them. --Stefan4 (talk) 17:20, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll leave them be.Carlton30458AZ (talk) 17:44, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Comment. Doesn't en:WP have a fair use rule for images of non-living persons? You can't upload under fair use to commons, but upload there. Read the fair use section under non-free images.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:38, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Deleted SSMC campus pic - File:Ssmc campus.jpg

After adding a tag stating it was the work of NOAA (forgot to include it in the original image upload), which should have been quite obvious from the included web address, the image was deleted. My question is: why? What more was needed? Thegreatdr (talk) 00:59, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't see File:Ssmc campus.jpg as being deleted?

Copyright help regarding File:Kendra-on-the-Red-Carpet.jpg

Hi I am need help with properly sourcing this file to avoid deletion. Thank You. --Mnanonymous (talk) 21:24, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

This file is sourced to the website. You need to ask some authorised person from that website to send permission to OTRS to license it under some free licence. See instructions at COM:OTRS. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:57, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Orpheum Dst.Vergnügungspalast1.jpg

Bei der Datei handelt es sich um das Originalfoto. Dieses Original ist aus unserem Familienbesitz. Der Abgebildete, die stehende Person mit den Orden vorne in der Mitte, ist mein Großvater. Das Foto ist etwa 1905 im Auftrag meines Großvaters erstellt. Ich bin einziger lebender Erbe. Der Photograph ist seit mehr als 70 Jahren verstorben. Das Gleiche gilt für die zwei weitern Photos die ich hochgeladen habe. Wie und wo kann ich die richtige Lizenen nachtragen? Ich habe umfangreich recherchiert habe aber keine Informationen über den Photographen Kübeler finden können, die etwas anderes als hier niedergeschrieben aussagen --Josephsenkel (talk) 21:34, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:JO klein - n kor besser.jpg

Bei der Datei handelt es sich um ein Original Werbebild. Dieses Original ist aus unserem Familienbesitz. Der Abgebildete, ist mein Großvater. Das Foto ist etwa 1910 im Auftrag meines Großvaters erstellt. Ich bin einziger lebender Erbe. Der Photograph ist seit mehr als 70 Jahren verstorben. Das Gleiche gilt für die zwei weitern Photos die ich hochgeladen habe. Wie und wo kann ich die richtige Lizenen nachtragen? Ich habe umfangreich recherchiert habe aber keine Informationen über den Photographen Consèe finden können, die etwas anderes als hier niedergeschrieben aussagen --Josephsenkel (talk) 21:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

--Josephsenkel (talk) 21:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:JO.eineM.Color.jpg

Bei der Datei handelt es sich um das Originalfoto. Dieses Original ist aus unserem Familienbesitz. Der Abgebildete, ist mein Großvater. Das Foto ist etwa 1903 im Auftrag meines Großvaters erstellt. Ich bin einziger lebender Erbe. Der Photograph ist seit mehr als 70 Jahren verstorben. Das Gleiche gilt für die zwei weitern Photos die ich hochgeladen habe. Wie und wo kann ich die richtige Lizenen nachtragen? Ich habe umfangreich recherchiert habe aber keine Informationen über den Photographen Kübeler finden können, die etwas anderes als hier niedergeschrieben aussagen --Josephsenkel (talk) 21:48, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

need help - i want to start a page? so people can see my group and events for my area - what is best way to do this

I want to make a page ? i think about my group in vanc. bc for local motorcycle rides and events
what is the best way to do this ... i've been on your site for 3 hours and can't figure out how to start the process
can u give me a few simple tips on what to click on first to start it off
i'm in vanc. canada but i think i signed up on the world wiki?
thank you very much
i'm about to give up lolol hellllppp
is it possible to share in wiki itself
Hi. I think you probably want to make your page on wikipedia - go to's_name_here and click the edit button. However, I should warn you that your group may not be notable enough to merit its own article, and so the article you create may end up being deleted. Also be aware that wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, it is not a place for you to advertise. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:07, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)You are in the wrong area of Wikipedia Foundation. The is Your article would go in:

That is the link to the english wikipedia, getting started page.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:10, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Can't download 10Mb to 15Mb files

What adjustments should be made to be able to download 10Mb to 15Mb file from Wikimedia Commons? Thank you.

Your question confuses me. Downloading is taking a file from here to your hard drive. Uploading is hard drive to commons. Most files should work up to 100Mb. You could try Commons:Tools/Commonist. I find it better.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

This is a follow-up inquiry on "Can't download 10Mb to 15Mb files" I tried to download "Peleș Castle panorama.jpg" with size of 10.87MB. Downloading starts till a quarter , sometimes half of the picture then stops. But in the past I was able to download other image file of up to 22MB. Does this concern with server traffic at the very moment? Is there a way to download using file id? How does this work. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anepch (talk • contribs) 06:36, 6 May 2012‎ (UTC)

Downloading works, there is no problem with Commons. It must be a problem with your computer, we cant help you with that. --Martin H. (talk) 10:37, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Steven Schlossstein - author.jpg File:Schlossstein - Endangered Species.jpg File:Steven Braun Schlossstein - Portrait.jpg


I am a web designer who was asked by an author to write a wikipedia article about him and his work. The client provided me with a word document containing the copy and photographs that he wished to include in the article. I have spent several frustrating hours trying to figure out which copyright tag to use for the three images that I have uploaded. I am not an attorney and I am not versed in copyright law. The help pages on this site are extremely difficult to understand and I have already spent too much time trying to figure out which tags to add and how to add them so the pictures do not get deleted. I just would like to know what code I have to enter for the pictures to not be deleted.

Thank you for your time,

Mike McComas --Jmccomas85 (talk) 02:42, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Assuming that w:Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Steven_Braun_Schlossstein is the article that you're working on, then you're also going to have significantly issues getting that article created, since it lacks anything approaching independent references which cover the subject in detail. I suggest that you check out w:WP:42.
  • Also, if the author is compensating you to write about him in Wikipedia, you have a clear conflict of interest. But that's more an issue for Wikipedia than for Commons. As for Commons: if you personally are not the copyright holder of the images you are uploading, and they are not in the public domain, then the only way we can host these materials is for the copyright holder to free-license them. See COM:OTRS; if that's not clear, come back here and ask more. - Jmabel ! talk 05:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Asking for an image not to be used?

I took and uploaded the image File:Tame_Iti_at_gallery_opening_13_October_2009.jpg and licensed it very broadly. I understand that I cannot withdraw the licence once granted. Taking pictures of living people in public places requires a certainly amount of good-faith and implied consent. I would like to withdraw the image in good faith, because the conditions on commons have changed since I uploaded / licenced it. In particular File:New Zealand can into Wikipedia.jpg which appears to contain a charature of Iti in frame three and represents the kind of thing the subject has been protesting about for the last 40 years. I do not beleive the implied consent I have is likely to cover the image's use alongside this cartoon. Is there a way I can withdraw my image or mark it as being requested in good faith not to be used? Stuartyeates (talk) 23:43, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I'm completely confused. Perhaps you or someone can make this clearer. While File:New Zealand can into Wikipedia.jpg looks utterly useless to me, and I cannot see how it is in scope (perhaps someone can explain?) I see nothing there that I can identify as referring in any way to this individual. Am I missing something? And if it is (in some way I can't see) slanderous of a living person, we should be getting rid of it pronto. In any case, clearly it is in no way derivative from your image, so I don't see why you want your image removed. I would suggest that your image should have the {{personality rights}} tag to remind people that if it is used in ways that violate Tame Iti's personality rights, he's in a position to sue. - Jmabel ! talk 05:35, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
    I believe the third frame is a caricature of the tā moko which Tame Iti is exhibiting. I believe Stuart is saying that Mr. Iti would not care for Wikimedia to host files that caricature himself or maybe that cultural expression. I think the best route here would just be to nominate some (most?) of the stuff in Category:Files created by User:Greyhood for deletion. Killiondude (talk) 05:49, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
    • Concur with Killiondude. It is hard to see why extensive ethnic and racial caricatures by a non-notable contemporary cartoonist would fall within scope. - Jmabel ! talk 18:47, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I just created Commons:Deletion requests/File:New Zealand can into Wikipedia.jpg Stuartyeates (talk) 20:16, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Snabba Cash (Joan Vidal).jpg

The image can be found on this webpage: And I have written permission from the photographer in question Joan Vidal to share the image on Wikimedia Commons, what tag should I add?

-- 22:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

  1. The tag needs to indicate a specific license. What license does the written permission specify? The copyright holder is the one that must issue a specific license.
  2. Once that's sorted out, this is probably best handled by emailing permission as specified by COM:OTRS. - Jmabel ! talk 04:55, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Lei Derichs.png

--Casperderichs (talk) 12:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

How can I provide copyright details...?

  • What is the picture of, who took it, how old is it, what country was it first published in? We need all those details before we can be sure it is public domain. If it is a more recent photograph you need to be the photographer or have a free license legally assigned to the work, and there is a procedure for confirming this. Once you add more details to the image or post them here we can assist with the copyright status. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 13:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


i think he is abuse his power?? check recent now deletes by him~.. Dongshin425 (talk) 00:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

You need to be far more specific if you're going to make such serious accusations. Which files are you talking about? LX (talk, contribs) 10:11, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: LX (talk, contribs) 14:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Adding images with permission of author

Hi there,

I want to add images to Nicolas Ruston]. I have permission from Nicolas Ruston himself to use images that appear on his website on the Nicolas Ruston wikipedia page. Please could you advise how to do this, and how to tag them correctly to avoid deletion?

Many thanks Ceyoungec (talk) 18:58, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Please see COM:OTRS. If that doesn't make it clear, please feel free to ask some more specific questions. - Jmabel ! talk 01:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Can my printed book use the images(pictures) in wikimedia commons?

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am a publisher. I want to make clear: Can my printed book use the images(pictures) in wikimedia commons?

If I can, how to give a note(mainly means creditline) to the pictures been used?

Thanks for you kind answer!

Shirley Ren —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 2012-05-08T10:49:01 (UTC)

I am sure you can from commons. Images from other WMF sites may have copyright protected images though. Each image you see in commons should have a section about usage and attribution listed. I will see if I can find the commons page that describes how to attribute them.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Found it: Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:28, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
  • And perhaps the most salient thing there is that images here are variously licensed. You should be able to use them all, but you need to check the particular licensing on each image. Probably the majority will either be (1) public domain, (2) Creative Commons licenses that are either "attribution + share-alike" or (2) less stringent Creative Commons licenses that you can handle like "attribution + share-alike" and be fine. - Jmabel ! talk 14:45, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright for (old) French money?

In Germany and other European countries, stamps, official coats of arms and (pictures of) money a free of copyright because they are issued by the government without copyright; there are already copyright tags for e.g. Germany and Austria etc. Does anybody know how this does apply to France? I find that many old and current pics of French stamps and money are given a personal copyright tag of the person who did upload them, which is, of course, BS. And how does this apply for old money? This is the general part of the question. My specific case is even more complicated and related to this file: File:Grubengeld Saargebiet 1923.jpg. This is money issued by a national authority but only valid in the Saar territory between 1920 and 1930 which was under administration of the League of Nations. So, what copyright does apply? French? German? League of Nations?!? Siantar (talk) 14:37, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

German stamps are not free: the government provision only applies to literary works whereas stamps are artistic works. See Commons:WikiProject Public Domain/German stamps review and for details. For the same reason, German money is probably also copyrighted. For coats of arms, also see COM:COA#Coat of arms "found on the internet".
For France, see COM:CUR#France (francs are fine while the status for euros is unknown) and Commons:Stamps/Public domain#France (stamps don't seem to be fine unless they are old enough). --Stefan4 (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, very helpful!


Hi, on this page

I was warned about invalid licence for the picture. Do not understand as the same picture is allowed on the Hungarian wikipedia:

Interesting is, that when I wanted to use this picture on the Slovakian wikipedia, it didnt show up, so I needed to do a new upload. Now the system is telling me, that the licence is not correct. Why? When the picture is public on the Hungarian wikipedia, it should be automatic valid on this wikipedia as well. Thanks for help. --Of (talk) 21:29, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
  • You didn't provide a license template. Nor have you added any categories, but that's another matter. No idea on the Slovakian Wikipedia issue. - Jmabel ! talk 00:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I didnt provide a licence template nor the categories because the system did not asked for it. Maybe you should improve and simplify the system. --Of (talk) 09:28, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
    • You don't indicate how you uploaded this, so I have no way to comment on what the system may or may not have asked for. But you still haven't provide a license template after I let you know that one is needed. We can't have media here with no license. I presume that if this document is something within our ability to host, it is in the public domain on some basis. What would that basis be? - Jmabel ! talk 14:56, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
    • Convenience link: File:Szalasinyilas.jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 14:57, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I provided the source: Hungarian wikipedia
I provided the author: Ivoa
I dont know where to provide the licence template, I guess it is the same as in Hungarian wikipedia. Could you fix it, please?--Of (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Hungarian Wikipedia doesn't provide any source, so a link to Hungarian Wikipedia is not enough. You need to identify the year of death of the photographer and the year of publication of the photo, and specify those years.
The licence template on Hungarian Wikipedia only seems to state that the work is in the public domain but doesn't tell why it is in the public domain, so the licence statement is not enough. The photo 1940 implies that it was first published after 1925, so the photo is most likely copyrighted in the United States. In that case, the photo will have to be deleted from Commons.
Ivoa is not the author. He is only the uploader to Hungarian Wikipedia. --Stefan4 (talk) 18:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
The system is definitely set up wrongly. If a uploader does not provide required information, automatically, the picture should not be aproved and published. Think about it. It will save you a lot of administration work. --Of (talk) 19:37, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Image not appearing properly...

Hi! I uploaded a new version of File:Ice Trade in New York, 1884.jpg a few days ago. It displays properly on the Commons, although not in the thumbnail version, and not on Wikipedia when I use it in an article in userspace - it still appears as the old version. Any ideas out there on how to make it display properly? Hchc2009 (talk) 17:46, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm having the same problem with File:Rosados en mosaico.png. It seems that Wikipedia is displaying a 250px thumbnail of the old version, which refuses to switch to the newer version I've uploaded to Commons. I think I'll request the deletion of the whole file page here on Commons and start uploading afresh. --GRuellan (talk) 02:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Kakopetria Geburt Jesu.jpg

I have been asked to provide a "licence" because, it is said, I have added only a "template". Please note: I have indicated in my description that this is a photograph of a painting of the 14th century in a church in Cyprus. It is the photograph of a (I think) two-dimensional original and so, I understand, is "gemeinfrei", free for anybody. I neither understand why there should be a "licence" nor know what form that licence should take. I had this problem previously with a medieval painting in Cyprus but not with other, essentially similar Cyprus paintings. Pleas help.


--Coranton (talk) 08:44, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

I added a PD-art tag to it. I think it falls under:Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag. I think the other warning tags can be removed now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
  • But {{PD-Art}} requires further parameters to indicate the reason the work is PD. I've replaced that with {{PD-Art-100}} (clearly the artist has been dead at least 100 years). Also, you gave the date as 2012-05-14 (the upload date) instead of 14th century (the date of the work). - Jmabel ! talk 15:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 15:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Stray bracket symbol below where image used in Wikipedia

The image located at is used on this page at Wikipedia (in the infobox at top). Just below the image appears a stray right bracket symbol ("]"). I've looked over the code both in the image file page at Wikimedia, and also in the infobox at Wikipedia and don't see what could be making this happen. Can anyone tell me what I might be missing? Thanks. Artaxerxes (talk) 14:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:The interior of Misión San Borja.jpg

I got this image from the following linked location and assumed it was freely available. Was I wrong? --Cdw1952 (talk) 02:22, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, you were wrong. The location clearly states that the photo is copyrighted.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:42, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Most of our images are copyrighted. But this one states "All rights reserved," which means we can't use it. - Jmabel ! talk 15:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:John Campbell, Blues Guitarist, Jack Vartoogian, FrontRowPhotos, 1991.jpg

I am the photographer and copyright holder to this image of John Campbell. I did not release it or any other images by me of John Campbell or any other person for use in or by Wikipedia. Please delete it at once and please do not post any other photographs of me without securing written permission in advance. I can be reached by email at

-- 17:48, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

How to add a sound or video file as "Media of the day"?

How do I add a sound file og a video file as "Media of the day"? I know that to add a "Picture of the day" is to find an image that is a featured picture. The way to add a "Picture of the day" can be seen here: Commons:Picture of the day/Instructions, but what about "Media of the day"? I cannot find any page about this. --Hereiamfriends (talk) 20:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I noticed the same thing and managed to fumble through by just using the code from other MOTD pages. I ended up making four entries for the same day, and I still don't know which is correct.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

File move help request

I cropped an existing very large picture to create a smaller picture of a mountain for an article. I then uploaded the cropped image as File:Knocknadobar Mountain.jpg. Then I realised it is known simply as Knocknadobar ("Mountain" is not part of its name) , so I moved it to File:Knocknadobar mountain with a lower case M. I realised then that I should have moved it to Knocknadobar.jpg but when I tried to move it again, it would not allow me. Then I entered a file move template to request a file move but I was told that Knocknadobar.jpg already exists and to use {{duplicate}} instead, but that won't work, either. I was working too fast and created obstacles for myself in my haste. Apologies. Please help. I just want to move File:Knocknadobar Mountain.jpg to File:Knocknadobar.jpg. Thank you. O'Dea (talk) 19:36, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Was it done correctly? Regards -- RE rillke questions? 20:33, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, thank you, that's perfect. I hoped I made what I wanted clear after the mess I made. I was just working too quickly and tripped myself up and got everything tangled. You could delete Knocknadobar Mountain.jpg and Knocknadobar mountain.jpg now if you like as they are unnecessary redirects and nothing links to them anyway. They were created in error and now they are just clutter. Thanks a lot. O'Dea (talk) 21:22, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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Extremely long deletion request with no comment


forgive my ignorance but Commons:Deletion requests/File:Dostoevskiy mosmetro.jpg was nominated on December 2011 and nobody has commented since then. Shouldn't it be closed already? Thanks.--Kürbis (Kopf) 12:34, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I have now commented. It is a clear delete case.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Dostoevskaya mosmetro raskolnikov.jpg Same issues.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Another one -.-"--Kürbis (Kopf) 10:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
✓ Done Powers (talk) 19:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Klondike page image


I work for the advertising agency that handles Klondike's business through its parent company, Unilever. I tried to upload an image that Klondike owns and specifically requested be made the main page image on their page, and it was deleted shortly after because of some kind of infringement due to the product having the packaging on it still. Am I not allowed to upload an image with packaging even though Klondike themselves specifically requested it? Please let me know as soon as possible, this is an issue that Klondike is depending on us to take care of.

Thanks, Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markh207 (talk • contribs) 2012-05-10T16:44:29 (UTC)

The mission of Wikimedia Commons is to host free contents only (please see COM:SCOPE). So, indeed, it is not allowed to upload to Commons an image that is not entirely freely reusable by anyone for any purpose.
However, you could, perhaps, upload a non-free image directly on the site of a project (such as the English-language Wikipedia) that accepts fair use under certains conditions (please see en:WP:NFCC). In that case, you will have to use the image there in a context consistent with the notion of fair use, not by a permission of the company.
-- Asclepias (talk) 17:14, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Or, if Klondike are willing to free-license the image, see COM:OTRS. But that seems unlikely if the image shows packaging that they still wish to restrict via copyright. (Do note, however, that this doesn't require relinquishing any trademark protection, so it just might be possible.) - Jmabel ! talk 23:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

From Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository

How do I get this text to display? Whenever I highlight the name of a page and drag the cursor somewhat down, then copy and paste somewhere else, this text appears at the end; for example, if I highlight the name of this page right now, dragging slightly down, and copy/paste, I get

Editing Commons:Help desk (new section)From Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository
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I don't remember this text appearing until recently, and I can't figure out how to get it to display; I've looked everywhere through Special:Preferences without anything relevant. Nyttend (talk) 12:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

If you look at the source code, you'll see a div with the id "siteSub". Its display CSS property is set to none for screen media, making it invisible except on printouts and similar. Normally, such text cannot be selected or copied, but results may vary depending on the browser you use. I couldn't replicate the described behaviour in Chromium 17 or Firefox 12. It will be visible if you add #siteSub { display: block; } to User:Nyttend/monobook.css (or whatever skin you use). LX (talk, contribs) 14:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Running Monobook and viewing the page in IE8; sorry I didn't include that initially. Nyttend (talk) 15:14, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Vitry-sur-Seine inondations janvier 1910.jpg

Hello, I've uploaded this picture from the french national library (here), and it is clearly described as "public domain" in the copyright section of the detailed information. How shall I do to change the licensing section? And I've also uploaded the wrong picture format here, and this page can be deleted. Thank you for you help.

--Artb33 (talk) 23:47, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

For a particular photo from the BNF, it could be difficult to figure out 1) the reason why the BNF website says it is in the PD in France, 2) if it was published soon after its creation or only in the recent years, 3) if it is in the PD in the United States. From the available informations about the particular photo, try to determine the best U.S. status tag and the best source country tag. If you can verify that this particular photo was actually published soon after its creation, you can use the U.S. status tag PD-1923 and if, in addition, it is anonymous, you can use the EU status tag Anonymous-EU. You might also find more inspiration in the licensing sections of the various photos in the category:Agence Rol. You can also use the source tag PD-BNF. -- Asclepias (talk) 00:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for you help, hope this will do. --Artb33 (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Karl Schlegel mit Familie 1932.jpg

Das Foto hat mein Großvater 1932 gemacht, ich bin einziger rechtmäßiger Erbe/Nachfolger. Auf dem Foto sind meine Eltern und Brüder. WELCHE LIZENZEN, KANN bezw.MUSS ICH NEHMEN.

--Josephsenkel (talk) 13:27, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Sannikov 2.jpg

Какие вам нужны доказательства? Это архив нашей семьи и не выдуманные фотографии, а переданы мне матерью Мариной Ефимовной Санниковой, которой уже нет в живых и хранятся они у меня. Публиковать неизвестные фото или присваивать чужие нет для меня никакого смысла, а эти фотографии дороги как память о таком замечательном человеке как Федор Ефимович Санников и его родственниках. Я Галина Игнатьевна Блинкова это подтверждаю.

С уважением, Галина Блинкова, учитель-пенсионер. Мои блоги -

--Галина Блинкова (talk) 14:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

What is the policy?

Do illustrations created for Commons need to be supported by verifiable sourcing?

Take File:Loch Ness monster views.svg for example. The description says "Loch Ness monster sightings: 1) single hump, 2) many humps, 3) head and neck, 4) head and back, 5) head, neck and many humps.".

Who says so? The artist/creator? Or is Commons saying this?

If there is somewhere else where I should bring this up, then please tell me where and I'll go there. moriori (talk) 01:34, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I would think it is the artist's interpretation of reported monster sightings. If you think it is inappropriate on a specific article or page that it is used on, you could bring up a discussion there. I don't think it is necessary out of scope here. Killiondude (talk) 05:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Cheers. I get it -- "artist's interpretation". Right, I will remove it from the enWiki page because it is a POV artist's interpretation, unsupported by referenced text in the article which makes it original research. Tks. moriori (talk) 08:11, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Shinkuchou.png

The website is a fan-run for the fatal frame series and has no official ties with Tecmo inc. I have a problem on the image I sent, and states: This media file does not have sufficient information on its copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided, the file will be deleted seven days after this template was added: (13 May 2012). The cameraslens site has the banner for creative commons and I am also a member on the cameras lens forums, is there going to be a problem on the copyright status on the image and also I attached the file to the article I created on wikipedia Zero: Shinku No Chou an upcoming fatal frame game.

--Neutron15 (talk) 16:20, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

There are many different Creative Commons licenses, and only some of them are free. Wikimedia Commons only accepts content published under a free license. The Creative Commons license used on is not free because it prohibits commercial uses and derivative works. Furthermore, neither you nor can issue any kind of license to works created by Tecmo. Only the legitimate copyright holder can issue a valid copyright license. LX (talk, contribs) 07:59, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Help with official German intwerwar photo copyrights

Background: I'm working on a # of en: articles about political figures in 1918-1938 Germany via translation requests from de:. Naturally photos are desired on new bios, and this period straddles the key 1923 US public domain date so gets confusing. My goal with this request is to get an expert answer then have it implemented on the Commons and en: for consistency. I am also a frequent commons user but very infrequent commons contributor, so apologies in advance if my question seems naive or was already answered.

Problem: To clarify I'll limit the problem to a set of 1938 en:Gauleiter photos, but there are various other known sets. All 1938 photos are on the German wiki and many, but not all, are already on the Commons. Either these are OK, and the rest can be transferred here, or they are inappropriate here and need removal. This is not to find fault as the issue is complicated. To further clarify, these are not Bundesarchiv photos. The source is Der Großdeutsche Reichstag 1938 IV. Wahlperiode, R. v. Decker´s Verlag Berlin 1938, a gov't publisher and the photos have no author. Files for comparison are: [3] on the commons, and one from the same set on German wiki [4] not on the commons.

Details: German Copyright Law 1 January 1966 declares that copyrights on publications by a legal entity expire under public law 70 years after the date of publication when the author is not named, as in this case (§ 134 sentence 2). That means the 1938 copyright expired 2008 and is of course OK on German wiki. However, the PD templates for US state that EU material that was NOT public domain in 1996 is NOT public domain in the US, having had their copyright period re-imposed by the URAA, implying anything after 1923 is not public domain.

Question: 1923 is easy. But for 1938, because these are official photos, does the German public entity law of 1966 apply or does the 1996 URAA date apply. For other sets, such as the 1928 Reichstag, the time consideration is similar minus 10 years. OR! maybe I'm not reading commons policy right: 1938 photos ARE OK here, but not for unlicensed re-use OUTSIDE of Europe. But then (this is my naive part), are such photos usable on the :en: Wiki. Currently there are many such articles using photos from this exact 1938 set, so this will have an impact once answered.

Kind regards -- Ultracobalt (talk) 04:54, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


Moved here from Commons talk:Community portal

What is the policy on screenshots from films that are in copyright? I want to upload pictures of locations in London taken from old films (together with current pictures taken from the same angle). Does this come under fair use please? I see there is something here [5]. Peter Damian (talk) 17:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Screenshots from non-free copyrighted films must not be uploaded to Commons, and Commons does not accept fair use content. See Commons:Screenshots and Commons:Fair use. en:Wikipedia:Non-free content#Images is a page on the English Wikipedia project. That project, unlike Commons, accepts fair use under certain circumstances. LX (talk, contribs) 07:40, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Question re: the rights I have for some photos

I have photos taken of my son who is a Canadian actor and the photographer provides authorization to him or anyone representing him to use the photos for promotional purposes for an unlimited period of time. Can I therefore add this photo to his wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winniep32 (talk • contribs) 2012-05-14T15:09:02‎ (UTC) Winniep32 (talk) 15:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

No you can't. The photos must be available for use by anyone for any purpose. For example, they must be usable by a person who is not representing your son, and they must be usable for purposes other than promotional. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:58, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Should old magazines be uploaded as color or black and white?

I have photographed pages from a now-public-domain magazine. It is on glossy paper and appears to have been originally black ink on white or almost-white paper, but now the paper has turned slightly brown. Should I be editing the images to pure black and white, or retain the slight sepia tone to the paper? Downtowngal (talk) 04:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Since this patina is real and impossible to recreate, I would say upload the original sepia-toned version. Then you could also upload the cleaned-up B&W versions, with the appropriate links to the original files. Best, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 07:34, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
I'd say it's your choice. If they're text and the B&W is as clear as the sepia, I'd not upload color versions. They take up more space, and we need a few illustrations of the fact that aged paper turns brown, not magazine after magazine of them. (If you can get clear, real black and white, not greyscale, versions of text, IMO, all the better.) If they're pictures, having as close a digital copy as we can might be nice for those graphics people who might be able to pull more out of color images then once graphical editing has been done on them.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:11, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

If I paint a picture using

Can I publish it under PD.--Deathlaser (talk) 18:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes. There are some software with non-commercial versions, with EULAs restricting commercial usage of the software, but Paint.NET is not one of them, its EULA is quite permissive -- "Paint.NET is free for use in any environment, including but not necessarily limited to: personal, academic, commercial, government, business, non-profit, and for-profit."
Of course, it's better (and more in line with the spirit of Commons, free media repository) to use open-source software, such as Pinta (open-source Paint.NET fork), GIMP, MyPaint, or Krita, and forget about all these scary EULAs. --Trycatch (talk) 21:48, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
But pictures like File:Strange hypnotic face.jpg can't be uploaded to Commons, because there are nothing educational in them. Commons accepts only educational content, any self-made artwork without educational purpose will be deleted, see COM:SCOPE. --Trycatch (talk) 22:20, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
The software license agreement has no impact on content created using the software. Content created using completely proprietary software can be released into the public domain or published under a free license, and content created using free software is not automatically covered by a free license. LX (talk, contribs) 08:04, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
It depends on EULA. Some EULAs restrict use of content created by the software. --Trycatch (talk) 12:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
You've got tonnes of pictures of smily faces and guns, how are they educational.--Deathlaser (talk) 17:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Our encyclopedias have articles on topics like en:smiley and en:gun, and they need to be illustrated. Powers (talk) 14:20, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
What about google sketchup.--Deathlaser (talk) 15:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Unless the software injects something copyrightable into its output, I would think we would treat the EULA like a museum license; not our problem.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Apparently misattributed photo

The file SirGeorgeEtherege.jpg, purportedly of Sir George Etherege, looks misattributed; it looks identical, except for being black-and-white, to the painting of William Congreve, by Godfrey Kneller, at William Congreve.jpg. I put my concerns on the talk page, but I'm afraid they'll be missed. I'd like to see a warning banner on the page, but I don't know if it's appropriate for me to add one, or if so, what one to use. So I need advice. You can reply here or at my talk page. GD04 (talk) 22:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Convenience link: File:SirGeorgeEtherege.jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 04:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

license change of flickr images

Hi, we have a serious problem. I uploaded some flickr images, but unfortunately the license has been changed, for example, File:Kenji Williams at Fortune Brainstorm Green 2012.jpg(CC-BY > CC-BY-NC-ND), File:L'arc En Ciel @ MSG - 3-25-12 - 040.jpg(CC-BY-SA > All rights reserved). especially the old version(CC-BY-SA) of File:L'arc En Ciel @ MSG - 3-25-12 - 040.jpg was deleted from flickr, then new version(, All rights reserved) is uploaded there. Puramyun31 (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

That's no problem. The original licence is still valid but no longer indicated on Flickr. As long as the licence has been reviewed by someone, the licence can be assumed to be valid. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

License fee


I am considering using some images found on the Commons for a book cover. All images are PD worldwide. In order to use these images will I have to pay a license fee to the copyright owner, if there is one?

Thanks, Publishing Company

See:Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. I think PD images don't have any copyright holder that you need to pay. Each image should have information on its image page. Some may just wish attribtion.--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:13, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
But do remember, Commons users are not lawyers, and the statement that an image is public domain could be inaccurate. Use common sense about whether the claim of public domain is plausible. - Jmabel ! talk 15:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Very correct, Jmabel. You may wish to tell us here which images you are considering, or email one of us to keep your list private. I think we could help decide whether the PD tags are accurate.--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:49, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Category for mocked up screenshots?

Is there a category for mocked up screenshots? Should there be? I have uploaded two such files and they are currently uncategorised. Putting them in Category:Screenshots seems slightly misleading. Yaris678 (talk) 11:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Why not create a subcategory of Category:Screenshots? Powers (talk) 19:36, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Do you think Category:Mocked-up screenshots would be the best name for such a category? Yaris678 (talk) 17:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Done. Yaris678 (talk) 17:19, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Error creating thumbnail

I uploaded a new version of File:Ormajärvi panoraama.png, and I think it's too large (more than 12.5 megapixels). Should I upload a new JPEG image or scale this png image? Or is there some other problem? --Juhsta (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

As this is a photo, please use JPEG (not progressive) with low "compression"/ "high quality". That's the easiest for MediaWiki's image-scaler (ImageMagick). Further reading at COM:MAXTHUMB. Thank you. -- RE rillke questions? 20:36, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Logo des Sportgymnasiums.PNG

Ich habe die Datei(das Bild) hochgeladen, mit dem Einverständniss des Urhebers, jedoch besitzt der Urheber keine Internetseite, Buch etc. wo er es veröffentlicht hat. Trotzdem haben wir seine Einverständnis. Was soll ich jetzt am besten tun ? --Sportgymnasium (talk) 12:29, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Erst einmal würde ich in der Beschreibung ergänzen, um welches Gymnasium es sich handelt (Ort). Wenn es ein Deutsches Logo ist, erreicht es u.U. nicht die nötige Schöpfungshöhe. Wenn das Gymnasium nicht wichtig ist, fällt die Datei u.U. aus dem Projektrahmen. Wenn Du dennoch eine Freigabe senden möchtest, reicht es denke ich, wenn die Freigabe-E-Mail von einer offiziellen Schulemailadresse gesendet wird (die Schule wird doch hoffentlich eine eigene Domain registriert haben?) Alternativ, scannen und als E-Mail-Anhang senden. Gruß -- RE rillke questions? 13:17, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

File: Century 21 Lake Realty

This File, I believe, when I put it in was labeled Century 21 Lake Realty Lawsuite, now it looks to have changed to Century 21 Lake Realty, is there a way it can be changed back? -unsigned

  • Convenience link: File:Century 21 Lake Realty.pdf. Please request any renames with {{rename}} on the file's page. However, I do not readily see why this file would be in scope. It does not seem to be of broad/educational interest. - Jmabel ! talk 14:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Also, if we keep this, the categories on the file were obviously done by someone who does not understand Commons' category system. - Jmabel ! talk 14:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Bageren er desværre død - så nu bager han ej brød 2012-05-20.jpg

Well, I am not exactly new here, but I just uploaded the linked photo, and after I had uploaded it, I got some doubts whether it was acceptable to license as I have done (CC-BY-SA). Some facts about the photo

  • The photo is taken in Denmark
  • It is a sign which is meant as a joke on a well-known historical building from 1788, which has been the home of a dean. However, prior to that, there was a small bakery at the location of the present building.
  • The golden sign (kringle), not the text part was stolen in 2009 and replaced by a new one crafted by a local builder of boats with assistence from people from Norway, also in 2009.
  • The humorous text originates from the Danish author Peter Seeberg who died in 1999. He was a museum custodian for the town museum as well. It is a rhyme in Danish and translates (approximately to) "The baker is unfortunately dead - so now he is not baking bread", which reflects on the prior location of a bakery there.

I am concerned that the text itself passes a threshold of originality, which makes it copyrighted, but I am not well-versed in this field. If there is any doubt that the license is not OK, feel free to open a DR (or I can do it). Thanks in advance, --Slaunger (talk) 22:13, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

No idea if the text is copyrightable or not, but I see that the sign follows the spelling reform of 1948, so I take it that this is a post-1922 sign. Thus, it may also be necessary to determine if it is copyrightable in the United States or not. --Stefan4 (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Ok, so it seems to be not so straightforward. Maybe I should just open a regular DR on it to get it settled? --Slaunger (talk) 17:01, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
You could also try asking at COM:VPC. There are also decorative aspects of the sign which could maybe be an issue. --Stefan4 (talk) 23:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip. Did not even know about COM:VPC. I will try that. --Slaunger (talk) 18:44, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Slaunger (talk) 18:45, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


I strongly recommend to review the license of this file ( due to the incompatibility with the observation Observation from the English Wikipedia: This image is in the public domain because its copyright has expired in the United States and those countries with a copyright term of no more than the life of the author plus 100 years. Original Photograph from "The First New Testament" by David Estrada & William White, Jr. Photograph by David Rubinger, 1972. Photograph used with permission of Thomas Nelson, Inc. --AlbeiroR24 (talk) 02:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Barin Uprising 1990.jpeg

I found this and all the others online through google, and they dont seem to have a copyright on them, or its probably a copy right where anyone can use it. If you could fix this for all the pictures i uploaded that would be great!

--InnerAsia101 (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright doesn't work that way. We need explicit permission from the photographer.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:28, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Almost everywhere in the world now (see Berne Convention) works are copyrighted by default at creation. Any waiver of these rights must be explicit. - Jmabel ! talk 15:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Link-Assistant.Com logo.png

Hi, I'm afraid I've uploaded this file to Wikimedia Commons by mistake, as I didn't realize that "Commons does not accept files claimed under fair use". What I meant to do was to upload it as a fair use file. Is there a way I can delete it from the Commons before 7 days are up? Thank you.

--Fenticus (talk) 07:07, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Which country is the file from? In many countries, a logo like that one would be ineligible for copyright and thus allowed here. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
It's from Belarus, but I don't know if it's eligible for copyright or not. I was thinking NOT to license it under a Commons license just to be on the safe side.

Fenticus (talk) 12:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: --Canoe1967 (talk) 17:26, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:SEO PowerSuite users map.png

Hi, I'm afraid I've uploaded this file to Wikimedia Commons by mistake, as I didn't realize that "Commons does not accept files claimed under fair use". What I meant to do was to upload it as a fair use file. Is there a way I can delete it from the Commons before 7 days are up? Thank you.

--Fenticus (talk) 07:08, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Just tag with a speedy delete, request by uploader, with your reasons?--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:59, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I added a speedy delete copyvio tag to each file. I think those are almost as fast as the child porn tags.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Ha-ha, thank you.

Fenticus (talk) 07:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: --Canoe1967 (talk) 17:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Replacing two images

Hi, I made high-resolution (and more nicely colored) images for these two images:



Unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to update/merge these pictures so that the high-res ones will show up in all related articles. Should I change all these articles manually or can someone here replace the old versions with the high-res ones in one keystroke?

Thanks a lot!

One thing is, from the description you wrote, it seems that your images are from the film, not from the trailer. (Or if they are from the trailer, you didn't make that clear in the description). So, you may have a problem with the copyright (unless you source your statement that the film was issued without a copyright notice). Another thing is the pairs of images that you label "old" and "new" are not the same images. There should not be an automatic replacement, as any decision to replace or not to replace is an editorial decision to be taken on each project for each usage. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:13, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I assumed that the copyright notice on the original screenshots ("Dr. Strangelove trailer from 40th Anniversary Special Edition DVD, 2004") meant that the film itself was issued without copyright notice. Otherwise how could a trailer from 2004 fall into that "published between 1923 and 1977" category? So I copied all the information from the original screenshot. If necessary, can you point me to information on how I can find out if the movie was issued without copyright notice? About the editorial decision - you're right, I couldn't be bothered to find the exact same split second for the screenshot. So what's accepted WP etiquette on swapping the pictures in all related articles (if the screenshots are cleared)? Many thanks. --MsJonnyLenny (talk) 16:40, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I think I understand what you say about the "trailer from DVD" description by the uloader, and how that description can sound ambiguous. You assumed that it was a new 2004 trailer made specially for the DVD from parts of the film that were not used in the original 1964 trailer? I had not thought of that interpretation. Me, I assumed that it meant simply that the uploader made his screenshots from the 2004 DVD, but that the trailer on the 2004 DVD was itself essentially a copy of the original 1964 trailer. Hence the "published 1923-1977" tag about the trailer. The situation of a trailer published without a copyright notice, but (the rest of) the film published with a copyright notice. If the whole film was also in the public domain, we would probably have dozens of screenshots from it on Commons. I don't know where one can find the information about the copyright notices of movies, but someone else will probably be able to answer. About the replacement of images in articles on Wikipedia, my point was only to say that any choice between valid images is individual and depends on the judgment of the contributors to those Wikipedia articles, based on whatever criteria they want to use. Contributors to an article can have all sorts of reasons to prefer one image or another. It is not something that can be decided on Commons or "in one keystroke". I can only say that, in conformity with the general Wikimedia principle, if you, as a Wikipedia contributor, believe in good faith that a modification to an article will be beneficial and not controversial, you can do the modification. You will see if it is accepted or if it is questioned. -- Asclepias (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I just checked the movie, it says "Copyright (c) MCMLXIII Hawk Films Ltd. All Rights Reserved" right at the beginning. So do I understand you correctly that if I were to find a trailer from 1964 without notice on one of the blurays I could upload screenshots from it instead? However this might be in a different ratio than the movie and probably not in HD. How about fair use, I read that Wikipedias accept that too? Would that work in this case? Or is it more usefull to have this central Commons resource? --MsJonnyLenny (talk) 00:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, you understand correctly, and I suppose that's probably why the images from the trailer were uploaded to the Commons (category:Dr. Strangelove). About fair use on Wikipedia, you'll have to see that with Wikipedia (en:WP:NFCC), but I don't think they would accept non-free high-resolution images, even less if free images are available from the trailer. -- Asclepias (talk) 02:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
OK, well that's a shame. As far as I can see the trailer is not available on my Blurays, and the en:WP:NFCC doesn't sound like they'd accept my screenshots. Could you delete my uploads, or point me to a how-to? Thanks for helping with this journey. --MsJonnyLenny (talk) 11:50, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
You can add the Template:Speedydelete in the description page of each file. In the parameter of the template, explain the reason for requesting the deletion. With some luck, the deleting sysop will enter the reason in the logs as a deletion requested by the uploader instead of a deletion for copyright violation. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Small translation help

This user likes to turn wikipedia green.

I would like to invite anyone, everyone to translate the text above into as many languages as possible. please just edit my text and make a list above. Please feel free to depart from the literal translation as much as you need to, I want to capture the spirit of improving wikipedia by adding to it. It is for a userbox. In English, it looks like this.

Pengreen1.gif This user likes to turn
Wikipedia Green

Thank you. Penyulap

  • May I just say that is the most annoying thing I have perhaps ever seen on any WMF project. I don't know about anyone else, but when something is scrolling rapidly on the screen it draws my eye and makes it very hard to read anything else. I literally had to go into editing mode to be able to read your remarks. I'm all for turning Wikipedia (and anything else WMF does) green, but I'm strongly opposed to turning it unreadable. - Jmabel ! talk 17:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Also, until I added <br clear="all"> this box ran annoyingly into what follows it, which normally shouldn't happen with boxes that float left. - Jmabel ! talk 17:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback, I will incorporate that into future designs, this one is already used by half a dozen people, but would slowing it down assist at all, or slightly different colours, I would try to help people on both sides if I can manage it. Penyulap
I have created a much smoother slower anim and replaced it here and will phase out the faster jumpier version on the other servers. I added your code to the page on commons and will do the same elsewhere. May I ask if it is any better now for you, personally ? Penyulap

Copyright help regarding File:Wasserturm Großmaischeid.jpg

Der Urheber (Herr Wolfgang Schmidt aus Großmaischeid) hat mir auf Anfrage zugemailt, dass er mit der uneingeschränkten Veröffentlichung des Fotos einverstanden ist. Wie kann ich diese Zusage dokumentieren? Gruß --Laber (talk) 23:54, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Laber, beachte auch die Antwort, die du zuvor bekamst. Bitte gehe nach der Anweisung hier vor: COM:OTRS/de. Der Fotograf sollte eine Mail an Wikimedia senden bzw. du solltest seine Mail weiterleiten. Am besten wird die Textvorlage verwendet - siehe COM:OTRS/de. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 02:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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File:DEMACO Short Goods Dry Pasta Line 1985.tif

How do I get this image to show as a thumbnail? Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 15:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As you can read at a thumbnail "The resolution of the source file is too large." So you could scale it down. However, it is best (since it does not have sharp lines / color areas and PNG would also not thumbnail at this size) to upload a full resolution, low compression jpeg file in addition (new name) - it will show a thumbnail. See also COM:TIFF. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 03:00, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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I am writing to you about the party Fry1989. We have already had conflicts with Fry, then he was given a warning. This time it comes to file ( I made a version of the file to the other in blue (which I took from the government website of the Russian Federation). I pointed out that he took it to the government website, and he again made the previous version without giving any reason. D5A (talk) 18:11, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Why did not you try to discuss at the talk page of the file and/or at their talk page?--Ymblanter (talk) 19:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
  • The flag is used mainly for user boxes. I started a section on the talk page of the main one. I tried to revert as well. Fry doesn't discuss her changes on talk pages much and had admin settle on her choice of the page the OP mentioned.--Canoe1967 (talk) 06:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


My question is; Which process/procedure will i use so as to be among of wikimedia/commons? I'm very eager to join and my intention is to become an international businessman few days to come. i need help from you pleas.

Commons:First steps/Account may help. You may wish to think about a good user name first. They can be changed but it is easier to start with a good one.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:10, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding official translations of documents of the Spanish government

I understand you all have a bit more complicated copyright scheme than Wikisource and I'm kind of wary of breaking anything so I figure I should just ask here. The electronic edition File:Spanish Constitution.djvu that is up here is several different varieties of terrible. I'd like to replace it with an electronic edition published by the Boletín Oficial del Estado, found here (PDF). The current one has an unusual license tag based on release statements on the website of the office of the PM. Spanish copyright law makes official documents and translations copyright ineligble (see article 13). You guys don't have a {{PD-SpanishGov}}. So I guess what I'm asking is could someone who knows what they're doing check if this works for Commons and if so make a {{PD-SpanishGov}}? Deeply obliged. Prosody (talk) 23:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

The template can't be hard to make. You could just copy the text from another country and insert your link and language. I can't read Spanish or I would do it for you. You should be able to use the text though with your existing link for now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I started a template. Talk page only, with a copy/paste from here. I will see if I can fumble some text in the project page.--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I have the project page now. Someone may want to edit further.--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:15, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Deletion request mistake

Hey there. I think that I may have made a mistake during a deletion request. I created Commons:Deletion requests/File talk:Emma Rigby Headshot.jpg - not sure what I need to do correct it and I think that it is something only an admin can fix?Raintheone (talk) 13:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I've deleted the image for you, this is a clear copyvio. You can tag such instances with {{copyvio}}. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. -mattbuck (Talk) 13:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Wasserturm Großmaischeid.jpg

Hi Kollegen, ich habe den Urheber, Herrn Wolfgang Schmidt aus Großmaischeid angemailt und er hat mir sein Einverständnis für eine uneingeschränkte Veröffentlichung erklärt. Da ich aber bei Commons neu bin, kenne ich nicht die weitere Verfahrensweise. Ich bitte deher um Anleitung. LG -- 23:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC) sagt "All Rights Reserved" ("Alle Rechte vorbehalten"). - Jmabel ! talk 05:30, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Am einfachsten wäre es, könnte er die Lizenz auf Panoramio ändern (in cc-by-sa o.ä.) Danach bitte hier zurückmelden, dann bekommt es einen grünen Lizenzprüfungs-Baustein. -- RE rillke questions? 13:19, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Siehe Folgeabschnitt #Copyright_help_regarding_File:Wasserturm_Gro.C3.9Fmaischeid.jpg_2 --Saibo (Δ) 13:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Copyright help regarding File:Cyril Genik.jpg

Hello, Cyril Genik jpg. comes from the National Archives of Canada, #C682. The photo is over a hundred years old and in the public domain. Could you please not delete this from the article. I am unable to get my computer to confirm anything, the way I did with the other photo in the article. Your help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

--Nicola Mitchell (talk) 20:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I added a pd old 70 tag to it and removed the deletion tag.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 13:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:VingRhamesKennethHall.jpg


I just wanted to confirm the image I have used is suitable. I am new, and I wanted to provide a better image for the Ving Rhames page. It says I have not provided a valid tag, what do I need to change?

Many thanks,


--Matt94Rob (talk) 21:55, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so. Most modern images on the net are copyrighted. You would have to have the photographer email permission or upload the image themselves.
Please read about Internet images and the intro of COM:L. --Saibo (Δ) 13:26, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Dirk Magnutzki-2.jpg

Hallo, das Foto, das ich hochgeladen habe (Dirk Magnutzki), habe ich von Dirk Magnutzki persönlich zur Verfügung gestellt bekommen, um es auf Wikipedia zu verwenden. Ich weiß aber nicht, wie ich das dann richtig in den Rechten angeben muss (habe das nicht so wirklich verstanden). Kann mir bitte jemand helfen, damit das Foto nicht gelöscht wird? Danke & Viele Grüße

--CobraMed (talk) 10:40, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

  • COM:OTRS/de. - Jmabel ! talk 15:34, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
    • CobraMed, beachte außerdem, dass Herr Magnutzki das Foto nur dann an jedermann freigeben kann, wenn er selbst über alle dazu nötigen Rechte verfügt. Falls er es nicht selbst fotografiert hat, ist das nicht automatisch so. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 13:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Saibo (Δ) 13:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wrong name of file File: Lennart Kalderen.JPG

I happened to name a portrait file wrongly. Please adjust!

The name I entered was File:Lennart Kalderen.JPG. It should have been File:Lars Kalderen.JPG Boberger (talk) 19:34, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

see Commons:FAQ on how to rename a file. --Martin H. (talk) 20:00, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Boberger, in the FAQ you will find Commons:File renaming which tells you how to request a rename. --Saibo (Δ) 00:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:ORIGEN Mtv Staying Alive Event 2012.jpg

This photo was sent via Twitter at a public event the band attended. We would like to know if this can be used or not.

--Hanko9 (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The photo is not published under a free license, so no, you can not use it. See Commons:Licensing. --Martin H. (talk) 20:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello Hanko9, welcome to Commons! Please also read about Internet images. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:28, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
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Copyright help regarding File:Klaas Carel Faber als gevangene.jpg

The photo of the condamned war criminal Klaas Carel Faber was taken in 1945 by the Dutch police or justice system. It was published when Faber escaped from prison. What tag should be used?

File:Klaas Carel Faber als gevangene.jpg

--Robert Prummel (talk) 14:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

It is generally advisable to make sure that a file can be lawfully hosted on Commons before uploading it. Works by authors who have been dead for less than 70 years are generally not okay to upload, and that's of even more true of works created less than 70 years ago. In this case, though, it sounds like {{PD-NL-Gov}} would apply. LX (talk, contribs) 16:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks LX! I did not know about that tag. It is difficult to find the right tags... Robert Prummel (talk) 00:39, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Commons:Copyright tags covers most of them. LX (talk, contribs) 15:57, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: LX (talk, contribs) 15:57, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Thumbnail not updating

The thumbnail for File:Apollo 9 Schweickart EVA with camera.JPG has not updated since I uploaded a hi-res version of the file last night. The thumbnails for two other files for which I uploaded hi-res versions at the same time have updated, but not that one. Does anyone know why? Thanks. Gildir (talk) 14:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

The problem is now fixed. Thanks! Gildir (talk) 19:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Replace image

I have uploaded a new version of "File:Diagram_of_Hard_Disk_Drive_Manufacturer_Consolidation.svg" under the name "File:Diagram_of_Hard_Disk_Drive_Manufacturer_Consolidation_New.svg". Please replace old version with new version. --Trustable (talk) 12:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

There may be a few ways to do that. You could ask the uploader to request speedy delete of their file. You could upload yours to replace the older one and see if it gets reverted. In that case you would need to discuss the merits of keeping both files either on the talk pages, or a deletion request discussion. The simplest may be to upload yours to replace the existing. If there is no opposition, then just ask for yours to be speedily deleted as uploader. Reason: better copy of file exists.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:57, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


I think you have decided to finish the discussion. So I created a new one. You know, Fry again started the war of edits (this file: He keeps his version of the file despite the fact that another version correctly (as I said it right on the blue (from the site of the Government Code).) On the talk page obschatsya he does not want. User Canoe1967 tried to reason with him, but Fry uploaded the correct version of the file to a file ( I think that we should change places files: upload the correct file in (, and upload the doesnt correct file in ( D5A (talk) 06:59, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

She does seem to be a difficult editor to deal with and has asked admin to block me for edit warring on the file. You may wish to comment on that page. I agree that your map matches the actual colour of the flag but she has her file protected now. I mentioned above that I started a discussion on the talk page of one of the user box templates that uses it. If you reach consensus there you should be able to have your version used. It seems Fry never bothers discussing file changes and just does it unilaterally.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:52, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

need help with adding my images to one or more categories

3D abstract honeycomb textures and spherical forms using 2012 computer graphics software, untitled work by Haestrom2012

I'm new here and don't know how to add a category Can someone help me with this please? - unsigned

  • I can't tell what the image is, and "Add caption here" is hardly an informative caption. It looks to me like it might be a contemporary work of art, and therefore presumably copyrighted. That would mean that unless you are the artist or have the artist's permission it is outside our scope. - Jmabel ! talk 15:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
    • Ah, I see you've now captioned it as computer generated. Very impressive, I presumed it was a real-world photo. Certainly something worth indicating in the description of the image (including what software was used to generate it). - Jmabel ! talk 23:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Awesome work, I spent ages appreciating that one. :) Try category:Computer generated images, category:abstract art, category:Graphic design, category:Mathematical art, category:Computer art, category:3D computer graphics‎, category:Honeycomb textures‎ they should get you started, feel free to ask for more, or click these links and explore. Keep up the good work ! Penyulap 16:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Удаление фото с моих статей

Здравствуйте! Получил предупреждении о том, что загруженные мною фото на пять статей не имеют лицензии. Я данные фото скачал с интернета из статей по аналогичной тематике, лицензии, конечно там не было. Через 7 дней фото будет удалено. Что мне делать в этой ситуации? Bgelo777 (talk) 12:27, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Ничего, загруженные фото из интернета будут удалены. Можно попробовать найти фото со свободной лицензией, либо связаться с авторами и попросить из перелицензировать фото под свободной лицензией (в этом случае им надо будет послать письмо в службу OTRS).--Ymblanter (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Check licenses

Is the image File:Mozart in lodge, Vienna.jpg legally uploaded?

By the way, do you have a template saying "please check the licenses"? I know there is a template saying "please check the categories" (Template:Check categories). --Treeabove (talk) 01:57, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

If the date (1789) is correct, then yes, it has been legally uploaded. The "please check the licences" template you're requesting is called {{wrong license}}. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Alsuev.jpg

Здравствуйте! Написал 5 статей о писателях Бурятии. Не было их фото. Нашел в интернете, причем на одном только сайте, вот ссылка : . Взял фото оттуда. Никаких лицензии там , конечно, не было. При загрузке этих фото я написал, что файлы несвободны, что авторы неизвестны. Полагаю, что авторов самих давно нет, учитывая то, что и писатели, которых они фотографировали и рисовали, сами умерли также давно.

Вот те самые спорные файлы:

  • Dmitriev Paramon.jpg (file)
  • Petrov P..jpg (file) (фото на чужую статью)
  • Tushemilov.jpg (file)
  • Toroev.jpg (file)
  • Imegenov.jpg (file)
  • Alsuev.jpg (file)

--Bgelo777 (talk) 03:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Cenis222a.jpg

file was recorded with the consent of the author --Zbynek.holub (talk) 10:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Then follow the instructions at COM:OTRS. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Naga montage.jpg

I created the file File:Naga montage.jpg using ten (10) files from Wikimedia Commons. I used the new Upload Wizard, which I am not familar with on uploading derivative of files from Wikimedia Commons. The file was already uploaded and I couldn't find the correct license option or if I missed it. Could you please help me in licensing this new file or Which copyright tag should I use for files from multiple files?

The ten files I used for these montage are:
File:Holy rosary major seminary.JPG
File:Ina bicolano.jpg
File:Naga Metropolitan Cathedral 2007.jpg
File:00 naga city hall.jpg
File:Penafrancia Church 2007.jpg
File:Peñafrancia Fluvial Parade Naga City.jpg
File:Carmelite naga city 2.JPG

Thanks--Briarfallen (talk) 21:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

There are four problems here:
  1. When you make a montage of several photos, you need to list all of them on the file information page. I've now listed the images you mentioned.
  2. You need to list a copyright tag. Based on the images you've used, it seems that the correct tag is {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}.
  3. You need to include a list of all photographers.
  4. Many of the photos show buildings in the Philippines. Unfortunately, the Philippines lacks freedom of panorama. This means that you need to identify the architect(s) of each building. Unless all architects died before 1962, the image violates the copyright of one or more architect. If that is the case, you need explicit permission from the architect, or else the photo will have to be deleted. --Stefan4 (talk) 00:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Ignoring potential FOP/DW issues I have fixed the license tag. Please ensure that that the buildings have an expired copyright and document it on the file page (and the source file pages). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 13:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

having trouble with upload wizzard accepting article

Im having trouble uploading an article that is reliable information as well as privatly owned pictures from private collection. All persons involved have passed away and copyright for pictures are mine. Help - unsigned

  • I'm very confused by the above. To start off, Commons doesn't have "articles". Could you please explain what happened in a bit more detail, and could you please sign your post by typing ~~~~, which will be turned into a signature and date. - Jmabel ! talk 15:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Lefty, catcher, and ump.jpeg

Flickr upload bot (talk · contribs) somehow managed to upload File:Lefty, catcher, and ump.jpeg without any description, license, etc. Does anyone know either how to fix this or how to work out who made the bot request so they can be informed? - Jmabel ! talk 15:36, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Fixed since 2012-05-24 17:11:55. The source was mentioned in the log. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 13:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, I added information that I could find, but I don't think that the two underlying problems mentioned above by Jmabel are fixed, i.e. we don't know who made that bot request (and could be contacted to investigate what happened), and we don't know what was the cause of the malfunction (to check if something requires fixing to prevent future problems). Also, the source isn't exactly mentioned in the log. An unsuspecting user is just directed to a wrong webpage. To get to the source, one must be aware of the systematic transcription mistake that the bot makes when it inserts the URLs in the logs (1). -- Asclepias (talk) 16:56, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
The user who made it is usually mentioned by the bot on the file page. If there would be an emergency somehow I guess the bot takes a log of all its actions for some times - we could ask the bot owner to look there. It may have been one of the many server errors (not the bot's server but the Wikimedia servers) breaking this upload. Maybe the bot does not check if the user operating the bot did create the file desc. page correctly (maybe he clicked the bot order link in the preview but did not save). Yes, one can investigate what went wrong but this specific case is solved. ;-) In principle the bot owner should investigate - but I think he is not active. --Saibo (Δ) 00:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Please delete the not anonymized version of my picture

Hi, i forgotten to anonymize the number plate of the car. Please delete the old version: Thank you

Yes check.svg ResolvedDone Denniss (talk) 20:16, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Harford Yarra Bank Meeting 1923.jpg

Hello. I have uploaded File:Harford Yarra Bank Meeting 1923.jpg, a photo provided by the State Library of Victoria on the condition that it be published on Wikipedia Creative Commons 3.0 conditions. I have a PDF from them to confirm this as the condition of sale to me of the photo. (A) how do I apply a Creative Commons license to the file? (B) how do I upload the PDF to show I have permission? --Erictimewell (talk) 06:53, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

For your first question, did they specify which Creative Commons license to use? There are four different options that can be mixed and matched, though only two of the options ("by" meaning "attribution required" and "sa" meaning "share-alike") are permissible on Commons - the other two ("nc" meaning "non-commercial use only" and "nd" meaning "no derivative works") are not permissible on Commons. For your second question, you don't need to upload the letter - instead e-mail it to our OTRS team following the instructions at Commons:OTRS. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 07:27, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Philosopher, their letter specifies "Creative Commons Share Alike 3.0 Conditions" and so it should, since that is what I asked for. So how do I plug this information into the actual file? That is, apply the license? Erictimewell (talk) 07:42, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

As mentioned, you should send the documentation that you have to OTRS. There are a few points which will need to be straightened out here, though.
Copyright is the right to decide who may use a creative work and how they may use it. A copyright license is a formal way of specifying who may use a work and how they may use it. The Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license is a copyright license that grants anyone the right to use a specified work for any purpose. Only the legitimate copyright holder can issue a valid copyright license. Copyright is an immaterial right, so having physical possession of a copy (even the only copy) of a work does not mean that one holds the copyright. This photo is merely a faithful reproduction of a painting without any creative originality of its own, so the copyright holder in this case would most likely be the painter's heirs.
It's not clear to me what would give the Library the authority to issue a valid copyright license. That it would issue a license granting rights to the world at large as part of selling a copy of a photo to you personally also seems strange. LX (talk, contribs) 09:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, LX. I think the State Library of Victoria (who own the original painting) give permission to reproduce photos of it to anyone who asks and undertakes to acknowledge the provenance. What they sold to me was the high-res TIFF and share-alike permission to reproduce it. But as you point out copyright might not necessarily be theirs to sell. The painter died c. 1970 and Australian copyright law on paintings attaches to the creator and heirs if any for 70 years after his death, that is, till 2040. I'll check this out in the next day or so. Erictimewell (talk) 13:24, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Update. The State Library of Victoria are consulting their copyright people about whether they have copyright as well as ownership of the original painting and will get back to me. Obviously they have copyright to their photo of the painting. Their receipt in my possession grants permission for Share Alike publication. More soon. Erictimewell (talk) 00:35, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

File:ESC 1970 logotyo.png

Nominated it having no permission, because i think threshold of originality is met, its not as simple...requesting assistance--Trex2001 (talk) 09:14, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

The uploader seems to think that {{PD-textlogo}} applies to anything and everything. I'm not sure which "simple geometric shape" this is supposed to be. LX (talk, contribs) 10:12, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
thats my point, and he deleted the no permission tag i added without further shall I try again?--Trex2001 (talk) 12:06, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
If you disagree about simple shapes, it is maybe better to nominate the file for deletion using a deletion request, especially if the uploader deletes no permission tags. I've nominated lots of images for deletion now. I'm not nominating the following since I suspect that they may be simple enough (although I'm very uncertain about the 1966 one):
If you feel that more logos are too complex, feel free to propose them for deletion. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Pictogram voting info.svg Info The user has now removed the {{delete}} templates from all files I proposed for deletion, but you can still find the deletion requests at Commons:Deletion requests/2012/05/29. --Stefan4 (talk) 09:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
posted him on COM:AN/U#User:LucasHammar--Trex2001 (talk) 10:07, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Portrait Wolfgang Ruttenstorfer.jpg

Hi zusammen,

ich habe dieses Bild von der OMV und von dem zuständigen Pressebetreuer von Wolfgang Ruttenstorfer ehalten mit dem Hinweis:

Bildnachweis: OMV

Reicht dies als Quellenangabe? Wenn die Aufnahmen im Besitz der OMV sind? Wo Wolfgang ruttenstorfer Generaldirektor war. Oder wird mehr benötigt?

Danke für den Support!

Beste Grüße,

--Montefiori (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Die Freigabe für Commons muss schriftlich eingehen. Siehe COM:OTRS/de. Füge am Besten noch Template:OTRSpending zum Bild dazu damit es nicht vorher gelöscht wird.--Trex2001 (talk) 13:23, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Newer version of a file

Hey, if i uploaded a photo in black and white and it was edited to become colored. do i have to change the licensing and author or i just upload the newer version of the file ? - J10452M ! talk

  • It would help a lot if you would indicate what image you are talking about. In general, if there is both a B&W and a color version of the same image, they should be uploaded under distinct names and cross-referenced using {{other version}} or a similar template. - Jmabel ! talk 15:08, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I have several images, for example this one : - J10452M ! talk 17:08, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thumbnail not updating

The updated file File:Panorama from radicofani-italy.jpg which has been successfully uploaded by me on May 28, 2012 does not effect the mid-res thumbnail as not the actual in-use-pic on the website Radicofani although the actualisation in the versions table is displayed correctly. ↓ lǝɯnǝɥכsıɟ ↓ Disc. 21:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Issue with updated version of file -- both in Commons and in the destination page


Several of my files don't seem to be updating, either on the [file page] in Commons or on the [destination page]. I've tried clearing my browser cache several times, but that doesn't seem to be it. Sometimes reverting back to old versions and "unreverting" helps, but not sure why. Would love any help!

Thanks, Meerachary TBG (talk) 02:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorting my contributions

  1. How can I sort my uploads "Photographs by Bengt Nyman" by upload date or by permission date?
  2. How can I add categories to a batch of photographs?

Bengt Nyman

  • You should see all of your uploads, by date of upload, at Special:ListFiles/YOUR_ACCOUNT_NAME
  • What is a "permission date"?
  • There are a few ways to add categories to a batch; the best way depends on just what you are trying to do. If the pages in question are your own uploads, then from your user page you can use the "perform batch task" tool. It's not the single clearest thing in the world, but I imagine you'll work it out. The "Append any text" option is useful for adding categories. - Jmabel ! talk 01:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
  • My personal sort process is to add something along the lines of [[Category:Images taken by mattbuck|2009-04-16 13:55]] to all files I upload. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

"Categories of India by state or union territory" vs "Categories of India by state and union territory"

Hi, starting to re-cat India-related Category:Categories of India by state and union territory, i would like to ask what's the (grammatically) 'correct' way to do so: Category:Categories of India by state and union territory or Category:Categories of India by state or union territory ?? Many thanks, Roland 19:32, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

PS: EN:Category:Categories by state or territory of India ref. EN-WP, Roland 19:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC) ??

  • Probably any are fine; don't sweat it too much, because it's pretty easy for any admin to rename a category. - Jmabel ! talk 01:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, thank you, also for your hint, will go on propably from time to time by the 'scheme' Category:Categories of India by state or territory according to Category:States and territories of India respectively country-related metacat, Roland 09:43, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

how to license file uploaded from Wikipedia under a PD license


I uploaded this file File:Fisherislandconstruction.JPG from Wikipedia where it had been tagged for transfer by a bot. See[6] It had this license: {{PD-self}}

I was unable to transfer the license. It wasn't one of the choices given by the Upload Wizard. Will it be deleted?

Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 20:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The solution is to use a tool such as Commonshelper. As it looks now, there are lots of transfer errors, so someone is going to have to spend a lot of time on fixing all of those. --Stefan4 (talk) 00:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Models of objects may be copyrighted even if the original object is not?

I have had 2 images nominated for deletion recently, the nominator has stated "Models of objects may be copyrighted even if the original object is not." and linked to this discusion The images nominated are File:Bachmann Gresley V2.jpg and File:R 455 Hornby industrial locomotive from 1973.jpg the second image shows more of a toy than a model but I don't know if that affects anything. The discussion that the nominator links to seems incredible and a U turn from established decision making, unless it was about packaging. Yes model making requires creativity but in the same way as making an internal combustion engine requires creativity i.e. it has to work. It looks to me that a bad decision has been made, but can't see the actual file to decide what exactly the violation was. So what exactly is going on here are we at commons really going to delete all models and toys that are models? Oxyman (talk) 23:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Touch Pilot Episode Screenshot

I have been having a hard time trying to figure out how to upload a screenshot provided by the the Television company FOX from their pilot episode of the T.V series Touch. What I am really asking is how do I go about uploading an image of a tv screenshot? I have seen things like work out just fine, just I don't know how to do it.

Here is the thing I uploaded which is obviously wrong. Hopefully someone could do it for me or / teach me how to for future reference. I started this one. Thank You so much for your kind help!

I have been trying to use the license

(This image is subject to copyright, yet is covered by United States fair use laws because:

   The image does not limit the copyright owners' rights to distribute the show or DVDs in any way.
   It is of low resolution, copies made from it will be of inferior quality.
   It serves to illustrate a character of a well-known television series.
   The image was issued to promote the subject of the article that uses it.
   It is a common promotional item for a well-known work of American popular culture.
   The image is being used for informational purposes only.)

I got the image from here: --Jrobb525 (talk) 04:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Commons Commons only uses free files, so a screen capture is almost always going to be unacceptable because that is someone else's copyrighted work--you can't legally spread it around. You can upload it to a Wikipedia project under the pretense of fair use, though. Wikipedia allows some copyrighted material if you can justify its inclusion. Note that simply having a screenshot in order to have a screenshot doesn't count--you have to prove that this significantly adds to one's understanding of the topic. So, a picture of two characters sitting at a table drinking coffee won't cut it because readers can easily imagine that in their heads. A picture like this (warning: gruesome): en:File:Gus dies.png is justifiable because that article discusses the special effects that went into creating that particular image. Without having media to show what it looks like, it's hard to describe it with just words. See also en:File:2001_space_travel.ogv--you can't talk about the special effects of 2001 sufficiently with just text. If you need more help with this, please let me know. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:21, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested template edit

Please assist I'm accustomed to en.wp where pages like en:WP:VPT exist to ask for technical help. Since I don't see an equivalent here, I posted this to Commons:Village_pump, but I'm not sure if there were no responses because no one was interested or if there were no responses because it was in the wrong place. Can anyone advise? —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:17, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I, for one, didn't respond because I haven't a clue how to do what you are asking for. You might try contacting someone who has already done similar tasks. - Jmabel ! talk 15:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't think there is a way to do that with wiki markup. There's no magic word to determine the file name extension or MIME type of a page in the file namespace, and there's no parser function to extract parts of the title except slash-delimited subpage structures. You could file a bot work request to sweep for such files and possible to patrol for it on a regular basis. LX (talk, contribs) 19:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Or ask McBride to create a new report for COM:DBR if it is extensive enough to require a regularly created report. Killiondude (talk) 19:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Logo XMPP.svg

I've seen several files like these lately. The quoted permission from XSF IPR Policy in my opinion only talks about the specification, not the artwork. The artist mentions on his website:

Attribution — You must give the original author credit.
Non-Commercial — You may not use this work for commercial purposes.
No Derivative Works — You may not alter, transform, or build upon this work.
Waiver — Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
© 2012 Raja Sandhu Media Corp.

So i dont think they can be kept...--Trex2001 (talk) 12:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I would agree. The way to proceed is to nominate the image for deletion. The discussion needs to take place on the DR, not the Help Desk. - Jmabel ! talk 15:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Is this license OK? How do I use this picture? Here is the source: I am trying to do a page on this author and want to use the picture--I am sure Time would be fine with it because it is not commercial use although not sure. Christopher Mulder 14:59, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Commons does not ever accept images on a fair use basis. Non-commercial is not relevant. You need to take this matter up on the English-language Wikipedia, not here. - Jmabel ! talk 15:07, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Since the file claims to have a non-commercial licence, I've added a {{noncommercial}} speedy deletion tag to the image. --Stefan4 (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Threshold of originality-related question

Hi, I found this anime logo( used in German Wikipedia, and I think the logo does not meet threshold of originality such as File:Googlelogo.png, because the anime name logo consists only simple Japanese and English text. is it okay upload to commons? Puramyun31 (talk) 18:51, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Uh... hard to say really. It would likely fail TOO in the UK, but the US is a bit more liberal in that regard (there had to be one thing they did better). -mattbuck (Talk) 19:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

CommonsHelper tool

It says at Commons:FAQ#How_can_I_transfer_an_image_from_Wikipedia_to_Commons.3F to use the "CommonsHelper tool" when transferring an image from Wikipedia to Commons, but the tool never loads. What's going on?Biosketch (talk) 11:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

It loads for me. Werieth (talk) 00:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Me too. Probably a temporary problem. LX (talk, contribs) 20:44, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: LX (talk, contribs) 20:44, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


The images in these uploads are copyrighted. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 18:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Deleted, thank you for reporting. --Martin H. (talk) 18:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: LX (talk, contribs) 20:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

just a compliment

i just wanted to express my gratitude for your site. Especially the File:Empress Zita with her parents and siblings.jpg

what was really cool is you have a feature the puts box around the faces and list the names and dates of there lives. Awesome work!

Russ at <email address scrubbed>

Hi, Russ; I've taken the liberty of redacting your e-mail address; putting it out there in a public forum like this is an invitation to spammers. We're pleased you've found Commons useful; remember that almost everything you see here is the work of volunteers just like you. Powers (talk) 14:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: LX (talk, contribs) 20:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)