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Swami Sathyananda Saraswathi.jpg

This is a scanned photo of died person(understood from its meta details). The user give the source as "own work". But I see that photo some others places. Please see its history and take proper action. --♥Aswini (talk) 05:49, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I've nominated it for deletion. In future please nominate files that you feel are copyvio's or we can't host for deletion. There should be a link labelled "Nominate for deletion" in the menu to the left of the screen. Liamdavies (talk) 13:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Liamdavies (talk) 13:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a Lot. I nominated it for deletion in 28 June. But Somebody removed it :(. See its history! --♥Aswini (talk) 11:40, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Upload Wizard button

I like the idea of the Upload Wizard button at Special:Upload, but given the size of Category:Files by User:Nyttend, I don't think I need the wizard for myself. Is there any way to get rid of the button? Nyttend (talk) 02:04, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I don't understand your problem, could you elaborate? Liamdavies (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Add the following
div#uploadtext > center:first-child > a {

to your common.css. Ruslik (talk) 18:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Now it also has an ID.
#commons-upwiz-advertising-button {
Rillke(q?) 19:51, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
On that topic, would you be able to modify MediaWiki:UploadForm.js so that the button is not shown if the page is called with wpForReUpload set? Currently, when users click "Upload a new version of this file" on a file description page, we take them to the right form for doing that, but the very first thing we tell them on that page is to try another upload process which doesn't actually support the thing they tried to do. This is not exactly helpful. LX (talk, contribs) 17:16, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
No, it wasn't, indeed. Used MediaWiki:Upload.js because the other script has some issues now that JavaScript deprecations have been removed and is not loaded for users who deactivated the gadget "enhanced upload form". -- Rillke(q?) 11:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Rillke(q?) 11:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Parameter "sex" in template "Russian spoken article"

There is a problem with the parameter "sex" (Sex of the narrator) in the template {{Russian spoken article}} now.

E.g. the page File:Ru-Deutschlandlied (intro).ogg contains parameter:

|sex= Male

But it produces the unrelevant text in Russian:

"Sex of the narrator: Он редактирует страницы вики"

It could be translated: "He edits wiki pages", instead of "мужской" or "мужской пол" (i.e. "male").

I don't see a page, where I can correct this error. Could you improve this translation? -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 08:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

{{Spoken article entry}} uses translation from MediaWiki (see Special:Preferences). I think will be good idea to use description of male/female items from Wikidata instead. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Espesor del hielo en el Océano Ártico.jpg

I am suscribed to Space in Images from ESA (European Space Administration). The Image: Espesor del hielo en el Océano Ártico (Arctic Ice Thickness) was released by ESA on September 09 - 2013 under the permission: which states: You may use ESA images or videos for educational or informational purposes

I think these statements will be clear enough to upload this excellent image for educational and informatinal purposes on Commons and Wikipedia. Sincerely: --Fev (talk) 12:07, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

  • No, it wouldn't. That apparently excludes commercial use, and Wikimedia Commons, despite its generally educational goals, accepts only images that can also be used commercially. Also, it doesn't give permission for derivatives, which we also require. - Jmabel ! talk 15:59, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:TeamPacman.jpg

Hi I was just wondering if I can know if this image is okay for use on wikipedia thank you Justin Michael 04:57, 7 November 2013 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by JMichael22 (talk • contribs)

  • By the looks of it, as the file has been deleted, no. Please consult COM:LICENSE to see what type of files we can host at commons. Liamdavies (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Liamdavies (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Public Rally Photo

I want to upload a public rally photo which is published in many newspapers and shown by many news channels. So I want to know that can I upload this photo on commons? If yes, please tell me appropriate license.--Prateekmalviya20 (talk) 09:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Most photos in newspapers and other professional news media are copyrighted and not allowed on Commons at all. Could you provide a source link for the specific image in question? Such questions are easier to answer with the specific case. GermanJoe (talk) 11:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
If the photo you mention here is this one, no, we cannot host it here as it is copyright ([1]). Liamdavies (talk) 14:59, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Ich habe eine neue Version der Datei erstellt; bei Wikipedia wird aber immer noch die alte Version gezeigt; nur die Miniatur ist schon als neue Version sichtbar. Was ist zu tun? --Wolberg77 (talk) 18:58, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

de:Hilfe:Cache. Nyttend (talk) 01:59, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Category:Macroglossum stellatarum

BIG MISTAKE! More than twenty images in Category:Macroglossum stellatarum don't belong there. They are Hemaris, instead of Macroglossum stellatarum. All the images photographed in the United States should be moved to the correct category and renamed accordingly. I could move them one by one, but can't rename them. Please, somebody fix this. --Polinizador (talk) 13:29, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi, move them into the categories that they should be in (you can use Cat-a-lot or Hotcat to make this easier if you'd like), and then request a rename using either the script (drop down menu to the left of the 'search' box) or Template:rename. But please try to give an evidence backing to the proposed new names so that filemovers know why they should be moved. Hope this helps. Liamdavies (talk) 14:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:37047 passes East Suffolk Junction signal box in the 1970s..jpg

A friend has sent me some photos for loading up to Wikipedia. He was happy enough for me to load these under my own name but I have credited them to him in the best way I can. If required I can supply the text of an e-mail - can you let me know whether this is OK?

--Davidvaughanwells (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Please, see Commons:OTRS. I should definitely supply the e-mail with a clear free license in it. Ruslik (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

File:Bell Labs APS plaque west side of Westbeth door jeh edited.jpg

A little over four hours ago I uploaded two files, one of the plaque with this filename, and one of the door, named to indicate it's the door. Somehow they both got this name. I reverted to the correct version for this name, but how do I give a separate name to the other version? Jim.henderson (talk) 23:48, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Upload it under a different name, something like "Westbeth door.jpg"? -- Asclepias (talk) 00:05, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Drat; I was hoping for a neater way. Off to snap more pix now but I'll find the card and send it tomorrow or the next day. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:43, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
You don't need to find the card. You could just copy the file already uploaded and reupload it under the name you want. Not sure what neater way you expected. You could probably ask an admin to separate the file histories and do the rest of the job, but there doesn't seem to be an obvious advantage to that method in this case. If you don't want to release the door photo with CC-0, you should request the deletion of the intermediate version. If you release the door photo with CC-0 anyway, it's not necessary to request the deletion. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Westbeth north door 55 Bethune St jeh.jpg
Done. The only copy I had of the picture, which I had uploaded from a public library near the target, was on the card where the camera stored it. Ah, "separate the file histories" was the name of what I wanted? What I meant was, if the file is in Commons but without a name of its own, seems to me there would be an easy way to give it its own name. But, apparently it's something special, like a last resort in special cases when normal methods do not avail. Not that this picture is terribly important; it's mainly an establishing shot for the plaque, but now I know. Thanks. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:07, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Storm Game at the Eastlink Centre, PEI, 2013.jpg

--Kburke559 (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)i uploaded a photo from my own facebook account and idk what licences it falls under. please help me i dont want to loss my photo.

  • Did you create this image yourself? If you did the free license given is fine. If you did not create this image, you must provide evidence that it is available under a free license, this could be linking to the page you got it from that has a free license disclaimer, or through COM:OTRS. If you created the image yourself, and you are happy with the license, you do not have to do anything. Liamdavies (talk) 11:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Can I browse all images within a category at once?

I am trying to choose images from a category that has 17 subcategories, and many of those are further split into sub-subcategories, etc. The images that have been "subcategorized" do not appear in the main category page. Is there a way to expand all included subcategories and view them all at once rather than browse each subcategory and all of its constituents? Otherwise, the fine-scale categorization defeats the purpose of easily finding images. Thanks. Animalparty (talk) 22:35, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I can empathise with your situation, I feel the same about the overly eager and segmented category trees that some users create, making it near impossible to find images. The best work around is to use catscan: go to the higher level cat, and go to the little drop down menu next to the search button, one of the options will be "CatScan" click it and then select how many levels deep you want to search, and change the "search in category" to "for all images", hit scan and you should be presented with a gallery of images. Beware however, it can be buggy and not show all the images, or just fall over from time to time. Liamdavies (talk) 12:58, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Possibly incorrect info on file description

The file is File:S-3A VS-29 with Tupolev Tu-95 1979.jpg. See User:Fanndancer's post here. Can the description be changed even if no other source is found? PiRSquared17 (talk) 23:27, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

  • We don't have any policy such as en:WP:RS, so a source isn't necessarily needed for you to change the description; if you think it's wrong and you can improve it, go for it. However, if you get reverted please don't edit war, but instead discuss the issue with the other contributor. You can still be bold! Liamdavies (talk) 13:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

help with uploading/attribution

Hi, I used this: to make an image for the phosphorus cycle. I attempted to upload it (actually an svg and png version of it) with the intent of properly attributing it and hopefully linking it. I can't figure out how to do any of that. Can someone do this for me? They are the only two files I've uploaded (User: bonniemf). I don't know if my file should go on the same page as the file from which I modified it, because my file doesn't show the carbon cycle anymore, so it seems like it should be separate but marked as a derivative work with the original attributed to the previous user. My files are currently marked for speedy deletion. If no one is willing to make the needed changes, then I'd rather just delete it than waste hours on trying to figure it out myself. Bonnie - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonniemf (talk • contribs)

  • Here you are asking us not to delete these, but on the talk pages you are asking us to delete these. I am unable to tell whether you want this fixed or removed. I will take you at your word here, but if I am wrong please follow up.
  • Probably part of the confusion was your claim of "own work" without saying there that it was based on File:Carbon cycle-cute diagram.svg. - Jmabel ! talk 15:58, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

about authorisations for uploaded images

Hello, I'd like to upload a photo of an artist to complete the article I've written about him. I contacted his photographer, and he gave me both the photo and the authorisation to put it on Wikipedia under a public licence. I can't find though a proper option in the upload form. What would be the best way to submit the image? Should I just upload the image and ask the photographer to send an e-mail with the authorisation and the link of the uploaded image to the Or should the author forward the authorisation to me so as I can send it to Commons? Or still another, more efficient way? Thank you for your advice,--Escrivendi (talk) 13:29, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Gustavo Falciroli Photography.jpg

Hi, Just wondering if the photo i recently uploaded ll stay on the page or ll it be deleted, just not sure what it have be done to stay on the page, I just found it on internet on the website and uploaded it

Thanks in advance for the help --Gustavofalciroli (talk) 13:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

  • We can only host images with a free license, generally speaking photographs of websites are not free for our purposes. The image that you've uploaded is from a website with a copyright notice on it, and is hence copyright. Liamdavies (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:McBusted Official Logo.png

I recently uploaded the McBusted logo but I do not know what 'copyright' it would go under, could you help me please? --LaimWMcKenzie (talk) 17:33, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

  • COM:Copyvio, we can't host that image as it is under full copyright. Commons can only host files with a free license, these are images that the uploader has created and released themselves, or images from pages with a legal release, or through the COM:OTRS process. I have speedied the file you uploaded, sorry. Local Wikipedias may have a fair use provision to host unfree images, English Wikipedia's policy is at en:WP:NFC Liamdavies (talk) 17:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: LX (talk, contribs) 18:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Location of maps

I just did this : [2] sort of on a whim, but I realized there might be a more standard way to do it, or there might be a reason not to add locations to maps. Does anyone have comments or is there a better place to discuss this? CombatWombat42 (talk) 17:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I wouldn't have thought that maps had a 'location' as such, but more an area (a range of locations). Either way, I think you may find Template:Location more useful. The other option is to place the geographic limits of the map in the description as done here - or both. Liamdavies (talk) 14:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks.CombatWombat42 (talk) 20:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Best practice for country information when artist is unknown?

Is there a best practice for including country information in an ((artwork)) template when the artist is unknown?

I'm putting together an artwork template to describe a set of 1820's Chinese watercolors. We don't know the name of the artist, so I'm using the unknown template as the value for artist=. However, we do know that the paintings are Chinese.

Is there a standard way to indicate the country in the artwork template? If we knew the artist, it could be inferred, but we don't. I could indicate the country of origin in the |object history= or use categories -- is there a better way to do this? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Annexation category?

Categorizing File:Anti-annexation flyer, north Seattle, circa 1944.jpg, I was a bit surprised not to find a Category:Annexation. Do we have something like that under another name, or is this something that should be created? - Jmabel ! talk 05:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Interestingly, we do have Category:Secession, which is under-used. A search for 'annexation' returns a pretty good number of results, so I think this would be a meaningful category. I don't know where to put it, though. --rimshottalk 22:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
I've put it in the same place as Category:Secession. If someone can do better, great. - Jmabel ! talk 00:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 00:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Inquiry about a news-item image

Something bugs me about this file: is it an OK upload and everything?... it looks like it's taken from a printed newspaper... alternatively, I can't locate & read licenses (which is indeed the case), only judging by the visual feature. :/ Orrlingtalk 16:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

If this is the case, shouldn't actually an authenticity-confirmation procedure be started, or something like this? I mean, is it possible that Wiki is full of illegitimately-contributed images right-now and no one terribly cares? Orrlingtalk 21:59, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

.jpg created using MAC doesn't show using IE, but does with Firefox

I need to use an image that was uploaded by someone else, for an article. The image was created using a MAC. It shows fine in Firefox but not in IE.

If I save the image as a .jpg using my XP PC, rename it and try to upload it, it tells me it's already there and prevents the upload. Is there a way an administrator could modify the image and keep the name, and not require me to upload a new copy? Timtempleton (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that the file is using the CMYK colour space, which legacy Microsoft Internet Explorer displays as a "missing image". Given the nature of the image, it would make more sense to save it in a lossless format such as PNG if you have access to the uncompressed original. Otherwise, you can use the "Upload a new version of this file" link on the file description page here on Commons (i.e. File:Rgp logo 4-c legacy HIRES.jpg as opposed to en:File:Rgp logo 4-c legacy HIRES.jpg). LX (talk, contribs) 20:59, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - I reloaded it as a .PNG. Timtempleton (talk) 23:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Is this a proper "Own work"?

Now is it only me or does this image look like it's uhm, taken straight from a TV screen Orrlingtalk 20:58, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Only you, I'd say. It looks like a montage from this photo, displayed on dozens of websites (this example taken from [3]). On the Commons file, look at the difference in the color of the face in relation to the rest of the image. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Should this "response" teach us that the file is a legitimate upload? Orrlingtalk 21:51, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
No. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:56, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Derivative work

I uploaded a file (Stanley_Park_Location.jpg) using the DerivativeFX. It seemed to upload because it told me it was transferring the file to the commons. How do I find it? How long does it take?

Rhild (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

It's not in your log. And there's no file named Stanley_Park_Location.jpg. Apparently something did not work as you intended. I don't use DerivativeFX and I can't help about it. Maybe you can ask for suggestions on the Village Pump also. -- Asclepias (talk) 01:03, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I used a different method and got it to work. Rhild (talk) 07:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Moving cat: "Akkadian cylinder seal" to a plural cat: "Cat:Akk. cyl. seals"

I've been on a mission to categorize the cylinder seals from the "Walters Art Museum", the seals with cuneiform. The cat: listed above now contains more than one en:cylinder seal. The cat is under Category:Cuneiform on cylinder seals. Please move Category:Akkadian cylinder seal to the plural: "Category:Akkadian cylinder seals". (it now contains one cylinder, and two other photos, a total of 11 photos.... Thanx..(From the HOTdeserts of ArizonaUSA)--Mmcannis (talk) 13:32, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Please delete these photos

Hi, Could you please advise how the following photos that I uploaded can be deleted? I read the guidelines and these two particular photos do not have the right copyright, etc. for Wikimedia Commons:

Thanks--1wikideb1 (talk) 13:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Both images are currently the subject of a delete request (which you have commented on); that is the proper procedure and they will be deleted within the week. Liamdavies (talk) 15:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Liamdavies (talk) 15:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

It has been, however, longer than a week and these photos have not yet been deleted. Could you advise when they will be deleted? Thanks.--1wikideb1 (talk) 20:31, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done--Ymblanter (talk) 20:40, 16 November 2013 (UTC)


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Boboiboy2000 (talk • contribs)

  • There has never been a file by that name on Commons. What is your question? - Jmabel ! talk 19:00, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Unclear tag

Some user (or is this a bot?) lately applied a delete-tag to one of my uploads. Can I just lift it or what is actually the "formal" procedure in such an harassment? Thanqz. Orrlingtalk 20:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

As I was typing this, another file was modified in the same way: now this Orrlingtalk 20:17, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
...And now they want to heve this one deleted.. Anyone who understands the meaning of all this? Orrlingtalk 20:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Read the text on the page and look at the diffs. JuTa (who is obviously not a bot; bots tend not to refer to themselves in first person) is converting speedy deletion nominations made over a week ago by Blurred Lines into regular deletion discussions. You were notified of the pending deletions back then, but did not react. Now that JuTa brings the speedy deletion tagging up for discussion, you call that harassment? LX (talk, contribs) 20:37, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

File:Ike Ofoegbu.jpg had first been no-perm-tagged[4] (speedy), which was then converted to a regular DR[5] (slow). You might comment at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ike Ofoegbu.jpg. --Túrelio (talk) 20:41, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Same with Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ben Reis.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:David Cubillan.jpg. --Túrelio (talk) 20:42, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Can anyone tell whether these notices on the files bear any meaning or the images now will just have "to live with" those tags, or what actually? Orrlingtalk 20:42, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
What exactly should I "comment" on those pages? I have no clue why this is needed whatsoever Orrlingtalk 20:44, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, I am not a bot, but an admin currently checking the images within the +7 days old subcategories of Category:Unknown. Most of them I agree with the speedy deletion tags and I delete them. In your cases i didn't agreed an converted them to regular deletion requests. I guess that Blurred Lines, who initally tags them with {{No permission since}} is doubting that those fotos are your own work, that you might have copied them somewhere in the internet. But I cant any identical images anywhere else. I you took those images youself please note that on the deletion request pages and another admin will decide these cases in about one week. regards. --JuTa 20:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I see. Will put that message as you said. (is it concerning only those three images or others?) Orrlingtalk 21:09, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Not that I know. --JuTa 22:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Sadly I will not be able to cooperate with further occurrences of this sort of event. I have contributed some hundreds of images here on Wiki, those of which not directly taken or staged by me have no line saying "Please attribute to me" at the file infobox. So picking just these random three must be a complete unfunny nonsense. I was actually flattered in an amusing way now that you mentioned the other user doubting my photos' authenticity so I went fulfilling that weird need, but I guess from now on you or anyone will need to assume that my contributions are defaultively my work and in case of difficulty address either my talkpage or the file's talkpage with a manual legible query. Regardz, Orrlingtalk 23:15, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Blurred Lines has shown plenty of incompetence at en:wp with image tagging; I just found an image over there that he'd tagged as no-permission even though 1/3 of the source page was taken up by a huge {{GPL}} permissions statement. I would strongly suggest that admins refuse to delete images he's tagged unless we can see reasons to agree with him. Nyttend (talk) 01:59, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Agree with Nyttend. I didn't see any bad intentions in his edits; but showing very incompetence. See this edits; he reverted two admins even without trying to clarify the point. He did it earlier too. JKadavoor Jee 05:48, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

"Free images of living persons with a bit of text" re-ask

Way back when, I asked where to find the policy/guideline/steps for dealing with free images of living people containing promotional text, where the text can be mostly cropped out. I did get helpful advice about what to do, but not where that was documented as a guideline or howto all in one place. Is there such a page? If not, shall we create one? --Lexein (talk) 06:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

attributing derivative images

I uploaded a cropped version File:Lucas radebe cropped.JPG of an existing commons image File:Lucas radebe.jpg. I attributed it in the upload process, but is there anything else that needs to be done? Note that i don't come to commons much, so if there is anything i need to do, can you drop a line at my page on english wikipedia [6]. thanks. TheRedPenOfDoom (talk) 23:00, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Done. There were actually a couple of issues here. I added appropriate content to "other versions" on both images and attributed the crop, since the license in question requires that derivatives must not imply endorsement by the original author. - Jmabel ! talk 23:25, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 23:25, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

long file names

I'm trying to upload a new version of File:ილია ჭავჭავაძე და ივანე მაჩაბელი ჭადრაკის თამაშის დროს, პეტერბურგი, 1873 წ. ფოტოგრაფი კ. ფოსტი.JPG

It tells me that file names can't be longer than 240 bytes. I renamed the file on my drive something short, but I get the same message. How can this be fixed? Can someone change it to an English name? Bubba73 (talk) 02:51, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Overwriting means that all links to it automatically get the new version. It also means that I don't have to do anything with the license, description, etc. Bubba73 (talk) 18:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
That's why it's frowned upon, editors of the projects should choose what image they use, not people overwriting files. You can obviously copy the license description etc info from the original to the second. Liamdavies (talk) 09:02, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
The file shouldn't have a name over 240 characters to begin with. Anyhow, I don't know what name it should have. Bubba73 (talk) 01:16, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Sounds like bugzilla:30202 (or rather a consequence of the workaround). The filename is actually only 103 characters long including the namespace and suffix, which is not unreasonably long, but because the Georgian alphabet needs three bytes per character in UTF-8, it gets punished. Google Translate combined with the information on the file description page suggests that the filename means something like "Ilia Chavchavadze and Ivane Machabeli chess game, Saint Petersburg, 1873. Photographer კ. ფოსტი." LX (talk, contribs) 18:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Do we have instructions to picturecollection cases to uploader

Do we have instructions to picturecollection cases to uploader how uploader shall first upload every picture to Commons and then collect from those. An example to picture where needed information.File:Yungtynunnie.jpg--Motopark (talk) 17:03, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

There is no strict requirement to upload each part of a collage/montage to Commons, although it's certainly a good idea to do so. Commons:Collages at least mentions that the individual images need to be free and that the individual sources need to be provided. LX (talk, contribs) 18:48, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Map-facilities-services-e2.gif

This file was down loaded on the agency's web site and the agency was refrenced. The file is an image of the NY/NJ port district. This is not my own work.

--Mangomacho (talk) 04:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

That's a copyright violation. The source site has an unambiguous "all rights reserved" copyright notice. I don't know why you would think that this file meets Commons' licensing requirements. LX (talk, contribs) 19:14, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Misspelled categories

Doing some sorting of files related to Category:Edmonton, I came across a couple of misspellings, Category:Waterdale Bridge and Category:Bridges over the North Sasketchewan River. The latter actually had a redirect from the correct spelling! I’ve emptied them, but I wasn’t sure whether or not to tag them for deletion, mainly because I don’t quite understand the intent of “should not be used on categories that are misspellings and thus unlikely to be used by other people.” It appears that the misspellings came from filenames—they certainly occur in several of the included files—so it’s arguable that they are likely to be used. What’s the policy in such cases?—Odysseus1479 (talk) 00:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I hope if you've "emptied them" you've moved things into more useful categories. There would have been several almost effortless ways to move these to the correct categories, but nothing much can be done at this point other than deleting the misspelled categories.
  • For the future: uncontroversial moves can be requested at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands. Or if you want to handle the whole thing yourself, try the tool described at Help:VisualFileChange.js. - Jmabel ! talk 01:05, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
I used Cat-a-lot to select all the contents of each and move them to the correct name, then copied & pasted the parent categories, so it wasn’t far from effortless. And thanks for the links. May I also take away from this that deleting misspelled categories can be assumed to be uncontroversial, even when the misspelling is frequent in the contents’ filenames or descriptions?—Odysseus1479 (talk) 01:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, there is a firm consensus to delete misspelled categories on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 04:36, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Uploading file to Wikipedia

I would like to upload information on our company, NetWorth Services to Wikipedia. I have already registered for a password, but according to your requirements I must have made edits or comments on articles and wait four days. Is this accurate or am I being confused by these requirements? Thanks for your help.

Barry Cohen — Preceding unsigned comment added by BCohen0929 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 12 November 2013‎ (UTC)

Hi Barry! You're not on Wikipedia. Wikimedia Commons (this site) is a repository of free, educational media files (such as images, audio and video) used by Wikipedia, other Wikimedia projects, and others. You can upload media files as soon as you've registered, but we don't host encyclopædia articles, if that is what you intended to upload. See Commons:Project scope/Summary for more information on what this project is all about. LX (talk, contribs) 17:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Error in template * unknown parameter name (Template:Artwork): '1'

Hi everyone.

Can anyone help with a baffling (at least to me) error message "Error in template * unknown parameter name (Template:Artwork): '1'" at Mary Cassat - Lilacs in a Window - MMA 1997.207.jpg?

Can't for the life of me trace the error.

Thanks. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 10:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Found it! A double |. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 10:40, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Coat of Many Colours (talk) 10:44, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Foto and email from a stranger / Foto und Email von einem Fremden

EN: Hallo, I received the following email from a stranger. It has two photos for this article . Is it important to pass this e-mail and to whom? -- Jlorenz1 (talk) 08:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

DE:Ich habe eine Email mit zwei Fotos von einem Fremden erhalten, mit der Bitte sie in Wikipedia zu veröffentlichen. Muss die Email weitergeleitet werden und an wen? -- Jlorenz1 (talk) 08:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Jaroslav Dvořák       11.11.2013 um 09:07 Uhr 
Lieber Freund,
ich schreibe ein Buch über die gefallenen preußischen Offizieren im Krieg von 1866. Auf Wikipedia 
fand ich Ihr Kennwort über Brüder Alexander und Cäsar Rüstow. Ich schicke Ihnen ein Foto des Grabes 
von Alexander dem tschechischen Stadt Horitz (Kriegerdenkmal Evidenznummer 417). Bitte, fügen Sie 
es zu Ihrem Artikel!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jaroslav Dvorak
Cechova 1329/7
500 02 Hradec Kralove

  • I am unable to read German, and was hoping a German speaker would deal with this. However, in lieu of that, I suggest you contact the good folk at COM:OTRS (in German) and try to sort it that way. Liamdavies (talk) 15:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


I would like to use this image as my header for a webpage teaching will be cropped. Wordpress will not allow me to insert the URL so I downloaded the picture. I do not know how to contact the owner, Brandon Weeks, to find out what I should do for the attribution. Could you help me out here? I appreciate your help...


Maria Chapeskie

  • File:Bird in sun.jpg indicates the author as Brandon Weeks. That would be the attribution. It is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported, so you'd need to also indicate that license and link to for its terms. You should also indicate that the crop is yours. So, for example, "Photo by Brandon Weeks, licensed under Creative Commons<a href="">Attribution 3.0 Unported</a>, cropped by Maria Chapeskie."
  • Brandon Weeks last contributed to this site nearly three years ago (Special:Contributions/Brandon), so I can't give you a terribly reliable way to get hold of him. He's ignored several comments on his talk page, so that wouldn't be any use in his case. If you have (or open) an account, you can try emailing him through Special:EmailUser/Brandon, but under the circumstances I wouldn't promise anything about whether he'll respond. - Jmabel ! talk 02:18, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Ravel Morrison

Can I upload a new image of him as a West Ham player as he doesn't play for Birmingham anymore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottyrocket (talk • contribs)

  • You can upload any file that is properly licensed and within the scope of Commons. However, if you wish to change the image at that wikipedia page, this is the wrong place, we are a media repository. To learn how to change images in wikipedia, please consult (for EN:WP) en:WP:IMAGE and en:Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Good luck! I hope this answers your question. Liamdavies (talk) 15:39, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I created my account on Wikipedia on November,7th. Why Commons does not accept it? The message is that there is no such username. I have no problem to log into Wikipedia! Thank you -- 20:09, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Al-Aqsa Mosque - Call to Prayer (Azan al-aqsa).ogg

I have uploaded a sound file of the call to prayer at Al-Aqsa mosque for use in an article in the research stage. The website it comes from ( specifically states: "No Copyright in Islamic knowledge. You can you can read, listen, distribute, re-publish all materials provided in this web site. You can't sell them however. With distribution of words of God (or Allah in Arabic) acquire his pleasure and great rewards. Farsi and Pashto translations are protected against sales. You can only distribute it for Free."

Is this a permitted upload and could you please assist me in which license tag to use.

Many thanks in advance-Godot13 (talk) 00:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Probably not OK because wording would seem to bar commercial use (and rather contradicts their "No Copyright in Islamic knowledge," since it is hard to imagine a basis other than copyright law on which they could prohibit sales). - 01:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Hhesse.png

Die Quelle ist in den Metadaten angegeben. Ich bin mir aber wegen der Lizenz unsicher. Kann man es unter eine CC-Lizenz stellen, wenn das Werk 1977 in der DDR zuerst veröffentlicht wurde ?

--Aglaeser (talk) 12:03, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

  • No, unless rights were explicitly granted, German works are copyrighted for life of the photographer + 70 years, so this is decades away from being in the public domain. To grant a CC license, one must hold the rights, so this clearly should be deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 16:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Preferences, no category on pages

If I in Preferences/Appearance (after login) choose Colonge Blue I can't find information on any page for what category it belongs to. As categories are important it seems strange to me, is this a bug or is it supposed to be so? Göran (talk) 15:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

  • If I understand correctly, you are saying that if you choose the "Cologne Blue" skin in Preferences/Appearance, then when you navigate to a page that has categories, you don't see any categories. Certainly not intentional. I tried switching over to Cologne Blue & I still see categories, but I have a preference set to put categories immediately under the photo, so I don't know what it would be like without that. Is there someone here who uses Cologne Blue who can help this person? - Jmabel ! talk 00:36, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
    • Cologne Blue seems to place the categories at the top right corner of the window, right below the "log out" button. Easy to miss … --El Grafo (talk) 12:32, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 15:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)


I wish to upload an image of an App for my project, yet I am unsure about the copyright of an app. I assume it is the same as software, but I may be wrong. In either case is there a proper way to show images of apps? If it helps or makes a difference, the app is free to download. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akirchhof13 (talk • contribs)

  • Whether someone charges for something has no bearing on its copyright status.
  • Most visuals, if not trivial (simple geometric shapes, for example), are copyrighted by default. Unless rights have been explicitly waived they are reserved. So must likely you cannot place an image of an App on Commons.
  • Not sure what you mean by "my project." If this is something unrelated to Commons, you might look into the doctrine of fair use. Commons does not allow "fair use" images, other than the subset of fair use known as de minimis (the copyrighted material composes a small and inessential portion of the image). - Jmabel ! talk 19:11, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Largest file in wikimedia commons

I am sorry if this is not relevant, but I need to know for my research: what is the largest file on wikimedia commons?

3.53 GB, see here. Jcb (talk) 00:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

nome original era pietraprezia - cidade da Sicília em Agrigento?

Li no Dicionário que Pietra Prezia era uma cidade no vale de Noto , Castro Giovanni, Sicilia. E agora aparece uma outra cidade, com nome parecido Pietrapersia ou petrapersia.

Poderiam me explicar se é a mesmma e qual a origem do nome?

Vejam na internet o título:

Dal passato per il futuro

Quanto al sito di Mactar (dal momento che i Fenici per le loro basi commerciali e per .... hodie dici putatur ad oram australem at Narum urbem a Pietra Prezia».‎

Obrigado. Luiz Prezia

  • Penso che si sta chiedendo questo nel posto sbagliato. Questa è una pagina di chiedere aiuto nell'uso del sito Wikimedia Commons. Faresti meglio a chiedere a it:Wikipedia:Oracolo. - Jmabel ! talk 04:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC)


I've uploaded a few images into Category:Miller School, but for all of them I've had to click "Ignore any warnings" at Special:Upload, because whenever I don't, I get a message in coloured text (brown, I think, but I'm somewhat colourblind) reading Could not create directory "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/f/fc". Any idea what's going on? I couldn't find anything relevant when searching the archive. Nyttend (talk) 05:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Change wrong licence of an image

Hi. I hope I'm writing in the correct page. I need a suggestion on what to do with an image with a wrong licence. The image is this one, which is licensed as PD-US, but that is wrong because it shows a letter written in Italy by an Italian man. On the other hand, I think it is not necessary to delete it and it could be licensed as PD-Art since it is a faithful reproduction of a two-dimensional work in the public domain (it was written in the XVIII century). So my question is: since the original uploader of the image can't change the licence (he was banned from wikipedia), can I change it myself? Or can I ask an administrator to do it? Or what should I do? Thanks --Postcrosser (talk) 11:27, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you can change the license. I think that {{PD-old-100}} is the correct one. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:43, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick answer :) I had though of PD-old-100 too as possible licence, but I was unsure since the image was taken from a web site. --Postcrosser (talk) 11:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Schooldayshqcscreen.jpg

I Want to use this Following File, I've use the same as this wikipedia site ( ), But when I Rewrite this following thread ( ) I can't use that file, They said me to reupload it in Wikimedia Commons, I've reupload it But I'm not sure about it's copyright, So can I use it? If can't, How to do about it, Because I need to rewrite and complete that thread in Thai Language. Thanks

--MariseZ (talk) 16:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

  • We can't host that image here because it is copyright. We can only host freely licensed content. Some local projects have fair use provisions for hosting images, my best guess is to ask at the Thai wikipedia's village pump, and see what they say. Liamdavies (talk) 03:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

File:B!ttu boys over flower.jpg

en:I found this file in the Category:Pic-Pic vehicles, and I have no idea why it is related to Swiss Piccard-Pictet automobiles, or where it is correctly categegorized.
de:Ich habe diese Datei in der Category:Pic-Pic vehicles gefunden und kann nicht nachvollziehen, worin die Beziehung zu Schweizer Automobilen der ehemaligen Marke Piccard-Pictet bestehen soll, oder wo die Datei richtig eingeordnet ist.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 16:34, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

The file was uploaded using the Upload Wizard, which uses the Hotcat gadget for categorisation. I'm guessing someone who doesn't understand what categories are for might write something nonsensical like "pic" (short for "picture") in the input field for categories, in which case Hotcat's first suggestion is Category:Pic-Pic vehicles. It appears to be the logo of a South Korean TV series, and as 50% of the files uploaded by B!ttu have already be deleted, so I really doubt the uploader's authorship claims. It's probably a copyright violation. LX (talk, contribs) 18:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I've seen that you initiated a deletion request, so I will remove it from Category:Pic-Pic vehicles in case it will not become deleted, anyway.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 09:31, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

how to cancel one image (old version)

Hallo, is there the possibility to cancel the old version of this photo I took and posted (it was a mistake: too dark photo)? The correct version of the photo is the present one. Thank you for your help. User: Esploratoreludwig

  • Convenience link: File:Nembro (Bergamo) - Fondo Canaletta (proprietà Agazzi-Savoldi).jpg. I'm not sure what you mean by "canceling" the image. Anyone who references the image will see the current version; they will only see the dark version if they look at the file history, which is as it should be. - Jmabel ! talk 16:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
    • Thank you for your quick answer. I thought it could be possible to eliminate from wikimedia the old version of an image I published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esploratoreludwig (talk • contribs)
      • It's possible, but not worth it. Hiding upload history requires administrator (actually, I think bureaucrat) effort and doesn't actually save any space on disk (just makes something invisible to normal users). Typically, we do this only if there was a potential legal issue (including copyright issues) with a version of an image. - Jmabel ! talk 01:47, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
        • But sometimes, it is good for the reputation of an artist. Nobody want to showcase a bad work in their portfolio. :) JKadavoor Jee 03:02, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
          • I'm also not incredibly proud of File:Vienna Tram E1 Line 45.jpg - but that's just where my photography skills were in 2009. I stand by it. ;) darkweasel94 05:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
            • It's cool. But here it is very clear that the uploader just made a mistake and asking for help. I think we need to be more generous to such requests. :) JKadavoor Jee 07:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Jkadavoor. You are right: I only made a gross mistake. If an administrator could eliminate it, I would be grateful! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esploratoreludwig (talk • contribs)

Gerard Fowke

I just added a photo of Gerard Fowke to Wikimedia. He died in 1933. The photo came from the Filson Historical Society, and they gave me permission to post it. There is a message saying that there is no source information, and it might be deleted. So, how do I fix it? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kozman99 (talk • contribs)

  • Convenience link: File:Gerard Fowke.jpg - Jmabel ! talk 01:50, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Source information is not the problem so much as authorship & rights. Presumably the photo is from the U.S., so U.S. copyright law would apply.
  • Ownership of the physical photo (which is presumably what the Filson Historical Society has) is completely independent of ownership of any intellectual property rights. Similarly, the death date of the subject is irrelevant: the issue would be the death date of the photographer.
  • Do you have any evidence that the photo was published before 1923? If it was, then under U.S. law that would put it in the public domain, and that would be simple. Otherwise, things get a little complicated. Rather than my try to explain it all here: did this come from a book or other publication pre-1923, and if so what? Or was it just a freestanding photo, possibly never published before? - Jmabel ! talk 01:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Also, do you know anything about the date of the photo (other than no later than 1933)? Clearly it cannot be the 22 August 2013 that you indicate on the page. - Jmabel ! talk 01:57, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Adding CD artwork image of Recording Artist

Hi I have a Image of ( Size 14 guitarist ) that I'd to use for his profile image, the image is:

It is the sleeve artwork for this Size 14 CD

How do I upload this without someone deleting the image?. Could anyone help me with this please? :D

  • I get a "403 Forbidden" when I try to access, so I can't see what image you are talking about. However, I'm assuming it is what you say it is.
  • The English-language Wikipedia (but not Commons) allows for "fair use" of non-free images. See en:Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline for how to do this for the English-language Wikipedia only. This is what I would recommend.
  • To place an image on Commons when you are not the copyright holder of the image, you would need to get an appropriate license granted by the rights holder. See COM:OTRS for how that can be done. But it is unlikely that they will want to free-license album artwork, so that's probably not going to happen in this case. - Jmabel ! talk 16:00, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi the image url for the image I'd like to use for is Would anyone be able to place the image on the profile for me? so it does not get deleted :D It is taken from this cd artwork: Thankyou!

  • Again: no one will be able to do this on Commons if you can't clear up the rights issue, and the image you are pointing to gives a "403 Forbidden". specifically says, "All images are copyrighted by their respective copyright owners," which is not the clearest way of saying "all rights reserved," but is certainly not a release of any rights. - Jmabel ! talk 15:33, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Images of PLoS ONE papers

Occasionally, I noticed images originating from articles of PLoS ONE here on Commons. Is is 100% legal to upload images from that source or are there exceptions? --Gretarsson (talk) 19:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Since all their content is under a CC-BY license, I think it is always legal to upload them. Their policy specifically states:
“Submitted manuscripts should not contain any images or figures that have already been published. This can cause serious copyright concerns. If authors must include previously published figures or images, please obtain express written permission from the copyright holder to publish under the CC-BY license.”
Ruslik (talk) 04:22, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
OK, Thx! --Gretarsson (talk) 13:19, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Sound files

First do this, then proceed with that

Hey guyz, what is the common/preferred way to prepare a free audio file ? Those traded at this project are usually <<.Ogg>> (not that I know what this format means in particular) and I guess editors should have a way to create them - say - by converting from mp3's, is that correct? Notably Ogg files don't work outside Wiki on the computer I'm working on, but I guess any of you can instruct me to come over it (if it's enough simple). Thanks! Orrlingtalk 01:50, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Audio gives the basics. - Jmabel ! talk 02:46, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Mmmm templated instructions, ok. Hope I'll have success following them. will come back upon possible failure. Thank you, Orrlingtalk 12:31, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Audacity is a pretty good editing tool, and the actual upload process is really the same as for images. - Jmabel ! talk 16:47, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. By mentioning Audacity do you mean the software where you can record voices and blend and export? That is a terrific program. But, you evidently can't render any file format there other than Wav (if I recall right), so what is the tool that actually generates the Ogg's? (Or can one upload WAVs?) Orrlingtalk 20:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Audacity exports to Ogg Vorbis, FLAC and a few other formats out of the box. LX (talk, contribs) 21:49, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
If Audacity can render free-format files then I guess I was quite oblivious, as I did record some Wikipedia-desired audios in the past, WAVed them out and waited to see how I could then turn those files uploadable to Commons :P .. Orrlingtalk 00:36, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

So I uploaded a screenshot. Now it's your turn Orrling; make a screen-recording of how you edit and export it and write or improve existing help pages!

This section was archived on a request by: Rillke(q?) 12:44, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Hehe, ok. Thanks. Orrlingtalk 17:22, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Uploading Flickr albums with blacklisted filenames

Hi, is there a way to upload entire Flickr albums but automatically prefix something to all filenames? I have found one of >700 freely licensed useful (and interesting to me) images whose owner unfortunately gave them names starting with "DSC", which is blacklisted, so I need a way to circumvent that - I couldn't find a way in Flickr2Commons to do that. Also pinging User:Magnus Manske who made the tool. darkweasel94 23:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Maybe User:Fæ and his bot are able to help here. (Pinging does work on Commons like on EN doesn't it?) Liamdavies (talk) 15:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
    • Not a bot, but I do have an existing iMacro script that I have used for several large Flickr uploads and does exactly what you want by customizing the titles that F2C suggests... and can be configured to do other interesting things by playing with the ".replace()" regular expressions. Code below, definitely do not run as-is, it must be configured for your needs and watch out for dead code, I see at least 2 instances due to this being an on-going hack. One benefit is that everything is fixed in your browser before you attempt to upload. -- (talk) 16:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
      • Thank you . I will try to customize that to do what I want. :) darkweasel94 16:45, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
  • If anybody with the same problem is reading this in the archives - I've now found a simpler solution (that does not require proprietary extensions), just enter this into your browser's JS console (I used Firebug) when you're on the page:
var list = document.getElementsByClassName("newtitle"); for(var i=0;i<list.length;i++) { list[i].value="Wien "+list[i].value; }
Obviously replace "Wien " with whatever you want to prefix. darkweasel94 22:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I've added a button to flickr2commons that can prefix all selected files with a string. --Magnus Manske (talk) 14:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Abwandlung eines Plans (Übersetzung) : wie laden

Für einen Beitrag in Wikivoyage habe ich das File'hypog%C3%A9e_de_Hal_Saflieni.png von Hamelin de Guettelet (Eigenes Werk) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons vom Wikimedia Commons

überarbeitet und die französischsprachige Legende durch eine deutsche ersetzt, kann ich das auf Commons hochladen zu Benutzung und wenn ja, wie muss ich vorgehen (ich muss irgendwie eine Referenz auf den Erstautor machen)? danke und lg Martin - Mboesch (talk) 20:59, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Der Autor des Ausgangsbild hat sämtliche Rechte abgetreten. Das heißt man darf mit dem Bild machen was man will und muss niemanden nennen und keine Lizenz beachten. Es wäre allerdings am einfachsten, dieselbe Lizenz zu nehmen, "public domain", das heißt auch sämtliche Rechte abzutreten. Den ursprünglichen Autor kann man auch mit angeben, z.B. indem man im Feld "Quelle" einen Link auf das Ursprungsbild setzt. File:Plan de Hal Saflien-HE.png ist ein Beispiel für eine Übersetzung, wo jemand genau das gemacht hat. --rimshottalk 23:35, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
hab's versucht, im zweiten Anlauf mit dem Assistenten hat es nun wohl geklappt, das Bild ist zumindest auf der Wikivoyage - Seite drin. Besten Dank, lg Martin - Mboesch (talk) 09:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wrong person's photo

Your site is using my biographical information (Clifton R. Wharton, Jr. but using the picture of my father (Clifton R. Wharton, Sr.) How can I upload to you my picture to replace the inaccurate one? CRW Jr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WHARTONJR (talk • contribs)

  • Assuming you mean File:Clifton-R.-Wharton,-Jr..jpg, that came from, so you might want to let the State Department know they are presenting your father's photo as yours.
  • On our site, with reference to the photo we already have, you can correct the biographical information associated with the photo. I suggest leaving a note on the talk page indicating that the State Department had it wrong, or else someone is liable to assume the change is vandalism.
  • You can upload a photo of yourself (using Special:Upload or any of the other upload tools). Either the photo you upload must be in the public domain (in which case you indicate that, and indicate why), or the copyright holder (typically the photographer) must grant a free license. See COM:OTRS for how that license must be granted. NOTE that the fact that you are the subject of the photo does not give you the copyright, so you can't release that copyright.
  • I know this is all a bit tricky. If you have further questions, you can either ask here or on my talk page. I'll also inform the person who uploaded the mis-identified photo.
  • Thanks for helping out. - Jmabel ! talk 01:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I'm Bulba2036, and I'm the one who uploaded the picture File:Clifton-R.-Wharton,-Jr..jpg and incorrectly used it on the page Clifton R. Wharton, Jr. I now see that Clifton Sr. also worked for the State Department, serving as a career Foreign Service Officer and as the U.S.'s Ambassador to Norway in the Kennedy administration.

I would like to sincerely apologize for making this mistake, as the spread of misinformation on the internet (especially Wikipedia) is one of the reasons that I choose to be active in the online community; to help quell inaccuracies and to further advance education in the world.

As I stumbled upon the Clifton Jr. page and noticed the lack of an image, I went to to do a quick image search of 'Clifton R. Wharton, Jr.' directed me to the webpage: And as you can see in the URL, it displays the image as 'Clifton_Wharton_Jr.' It didn't take me to an official state department biography, which, had it done so, it would have take me to this page of Clifton Sr.'s bio:

I would also agree that contacting the State Department, to correct this mistake in the misleading URL, would be a good idea. And I would also recommend uploading a replacement photo to WikiCommons.

I've since removed the image from the Clifton Jr. page and added it on Clifton Sr.'s. Again, I'm sorry for the error in judgment I made, as this is clearly a photo taken from an earlier generation. (And as someone who is familiar in dealing with Official State Department portraits, it isn't even consistent with those taken in the early 1990's.) I would like to thank you for pointing out this mistake as it is greatly appreciated by the Wikipedia community.

Bulba2036 (talk) 08:13, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Need to upload deleted image due to wrong filename


I need to upload an image published by the Badan Usaha Milik Negara/Ministry of State-owned Enterprises Indonesia, which is allowed under Article 14 item b of the Indonesia Copyright Law No 19, 2002. The thing is commons says I can't since I requested for a deletion before. Ominae (talk) 07:05, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

  • "commons says I can't since I requested for a deletion before" doesn't make much sense. What particular action are you trying to take (e.g. are you uploading, and if so by which of the half dozen or more methods of uploading that exist) and precisely what message are you getting? - Jmabel ! talk 04:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Reusing someone elses photo


I would like to reuse someone's elses picture (i.e. from one wikipedia site to another). For example this picture:[[7]]

How can I get this picture, and put it on another wikipedia page?

Best, Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisKristiansen (talk • contribs)

  • I'm really not too sure. The tagging is odd, and I don't think we can host it here at Commons (I'm not even sure it should be at EN with that tagging). I suggest posting a message to the Village Pump of the local Wikipedia where you want to use it, asking about copying it over to that project. Or asking at the Commons Commons:Village pump/Copyright‎ message board. Sorry I can't be more help. Liamdavies (talk) 08:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
    • That image was used on en-wiki strictly under fair use, and the uploader failed to fill out en:Template:Non-free use rationale (though they left enough information that I will now sort that out on en-wiki). However, Commons does not accept images on a non-free fair use basis. Some of the wikis allow this, some don't. If you want to do it for another en-wiki page, you'd have to fill out a Non-free use rationale for this image on that page. If you wanted to use it on a different wiki, that wiki's policies would apply, and if acceptable you'd need to upload separately to that wiki. - Jmabel ! talk 05:04, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

US Navy source for image

I've split page 3 from this document published by the Naval Postgraduate School, US Navy - it is a tribal "family tree". Their terms of use can be seen here. I'm pretty sure that US government-generated stuff is PD but please could someone confirm the tags that I should be using if I were to convert the split PDF into a JPG. I'm likely to be uploading a few of these over the next few weeks if they are acceptable. Ta. - Sitush (talk) 15:54, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

You can use {{PD-USGov-Military-Navy}}. Ruslik (talk) 09:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Lovely. Thanks very much. - Sitush (talk) 13:41, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

template IMOcat

Unexpected (new) results using template

IMO info
Information about the vessel may be found at IMO .
A ship can change name and flag state through time, but the IMO number remains the same through the hull's entire lifetime. As a result, it can be useful to identify a ship by using the IMO number.

Someone changing things? --Stunteltje (talk) 09:21, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

What is exactly unexpected? Ruslik (talk) 09:57, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
There were a hell of of a lot {{{{{ }}}}} visible, this morning, in stead of the usual indications. It look like the problem is solved now. Thanks. --Stunteltje (talk) 10:10, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Format of documents

I have been trying to upload a document for Wikipeda but having trouble because it is in Word format ".Doc". I have also change it to PDF document but still no joy. What format do I need to change my document to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Country music (talk • contribs)

Hello, Word files are not allowed, and PDF files are in scope only for old documents previously published. What kind of information do you want to upload? What does contain your file? Regards, Yann (talk) 10:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

What's that bug

Hey there. A very funny bug that I can't decipher / uproot no matter what I try - at Category:Portals; I only wanted to add a "See also category: Gates", and either when using the {{See also cat}} tag or any other fashion manipulated, a stupid red "Portal (architecture)" caption appears for just nothing, linked by an inexistent En page..(!?) I really tried to eliminate it out (- that Portals page contains quite a lot of text, with possibly misplaced code) but ended up still with only the option to remove the "See also" (which I don't desire). Thanqz for kicking it. Orrlingtalk 18:16, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Was this what you needed, or are there any other issues as well? LX (talk, contribs) 19:05, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Public Domain images of US Stamps downloaded from EBay

Dear Help desk, I have encountered several stamp images on Commons that have been taken from eBay, and I would like to upload several images myself, but I am not sure how to fill out the forms properly for them. Please assist. Sincerely yours, Benjamin Folkman BFolkman (talk) 21:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

  • We'd need a more specific question. What fields are giving you difficulties?
  • Do be aware that U.S. stamp images for stamps issued since 1978 are not public domain.
  • Typically, for stamps up to and including 1977, the relevant license would be {{PD-USGov}}. - Jmabel ! talk 02:40, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Recipient of the Order of LEOPOLD II


  • You've linked to the help page for people having problems using Wikimedia Commons, the media repository for the Wikimedia Foundation. There isn't any obvious question here to answer. - Jmabel ! talk 02:42, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


i think this map needs a seperate colour for jurisdictions which have mandatory abortions, such as China. Can someone create a seperate colour and then colour in China please? Thanks Pass a Method (talk) 21:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Please ask at COM:GVP for getting a how-to-do-it-yourself or at COM:GL/M for loading the work on someone else. I do not touch this file because it's not sourced at all, which I think would be a good idea to start with. -- Rillke(q?) 12:20, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Circumnavigation article, request to add information.

being a newbie, I cannot see how to add or get permission to add a paragraph of associated information. can you assist please? the item I wish to add is


A 55’ 0” British Registered schooner “Rights of Man” skippered by Ron W Arnold circumnavigated the Iberian Peninsula. The vessel, a Peterson Coaster Schooner sailed in 1995, from Cowes to Brest, crossed Biscay then down the Spanish and Portuguese coast to Gibraltar. The return leg was made in 1997, leaving Gibraltar they sailed along the Spanish coast to France and entered the Rhone Saone canal system at Sete. They motored through France to Rouen in only 25 days. Having the masts stepped in La Havre, she sailed back to Cowes.

20 Years earlier the same skipper circumnavigated the peninsular in the opposite direction traversing France through the Canal du midi in a 35 foot Lyon Class yacht.

Myschooner (talk) 00:07, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm quite confused as to what you want to do. For starters, it would be the "Iberian peninsula", not the "Iberian peninsular". But, in particular, this is the help page for Wikimedia Commons. Are you trying to add this information to the description of some particular photo already on Commons, or what? - Jmabel ! talk 02:44, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm guessing Myschooner is looking to add text to en:Iberian Peninsula over at the English Wikipedia project. The editors there are probably going to want to see some references showing that the above passage is true and relevant to the article. LX (talk, contribs) 22:20, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

No subject

how do I enter the definiyion of a texting term or abbreivation? Iwhich template is best for generqal use ? how do I load the template ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DISCOKIDD (talk • contribs) 00:29, 26 November 2013‎ (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons (this site) is a repository of free, educational media files used by Wikipedia, other Wikimedia projects, and others. We do not host dictionary definitions or other plain-text content. You may be looking for the Wiktionary project. LX (talk, contribs) 22:26, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Problems with subcategorizing Albuquerque images

Hi. I created the Flora of Albuquerque‎ and Animals of Albuquerque‎ subcategories, and placed all the images that were on the main Albuquerque page into those two subcats, but they're still showing up on the main Albuquerque cat page, even though I removed that main cat from each image. Any help? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:34, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Image Uploading and Copyright Issues

Hello, I am a student in a Design History class, our assignment is to work on an article. I could not find images that I needed in the Wikimedia commons, so I did a safe search on Google Images to find copyright free images. I received a message that my images may be deleted. Can anyone help? Thanks Allyscully 15:41, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I assume this is about File:Emil-ruder.jpg and File:Typographie-ruder.jpg. You don't provide any license tag on either page, so it is unclear on what basis you are saying these are PD. (Not that you are necessarily wrong, it's just that you need some template from Category:PD license tags or one of its subcategories.)
  • Speaking of categories: you also should provide some appropriate categories for your images. - Jmabel ! talk 16:52, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Google's SafeSearch option just means you're less likely to see naked people in your search results. It's got nothing to do with whether the files are copyright free or safe to upload to Commons. Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter#Internet images still applies to the results. LX (talk, contribs) 22:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Unless you can provide evidence that the images are freely licensed, either by a CC (or similar) license of are in the public domain we must delete the images. Don't worry though, you wish to use them on English Wikipedia, which has fair use provisions for unfree images, the head shot should be usable (but not in the 'sandbox', only in 'mainspace'). More info on fair use of images in English Wikipedia can be found at en:WP:NFCC. I hope this helps, Liamdavies (talk) 16:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Reuse of wikimedia commons images

I would like to take a stock image of the human brain, found here on Wikimedia Commons, and create an image showing pathways/neural networks. The new image I am creating will simply be lines and arrows overlaid on the original image. It is to be used within a Wikipedia article that I am adding to. Is this acceptable use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrandonVerwijst (talk • contribs)

  • Should be possible to do with any image here. If you intend to release it with the same license as the image you used, then it is pretty straightforward; if you want to license differently, then it gets more complicated. If you want more concrete help about the licensing issues, you'll have to specify the particular image (or at least the particular license, and what license you want to use for the enhanced image). - Jmabel ! talk 01:06, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Thalaiva.jpg

--Thanalakshmi (talk) 07:53, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

--Thanalakshmi (talk) 07:53, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

  • What type of help would you like? The file linked appears to be a copyvio, did you take the photograph? Or do you own the copyright to the photograph? Commons can only accept freely licensed content, unless the image is released under a free license we must delete it. Liamdavies (talk) 16:13, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Other versions is Advertasing?

Please take a comment on File talk:Windows 8 Start UI.svg. Some user claims that PNG version of file is an "Advertasing", I don't agree with it. --Rezonansowy (talk) 15:16, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I don't think that is what they mean. I think that they mean that to place it in "Other Versions" will advertise (ie give wide knowledge of) the files existence, and that as SVG files are better quality than PNG this shouldn't be done. They have now nominated the file for deletion, so this may, or may not, be a non-event anyway. Liamdavies (talk) 16:08, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Just to be clear: License only applies to the uploaded image, not the depicted item, correct?

Dear, I have uploaded this image I have designed the depicted game and can grant permission. I want to be sure that I only grant permission for the picture and not the game itself. How do I phrase this in the Thank you for your assistance. Best regards, Dennis

Sorry, that isn't possible. If there are copyrightable elements on the picture that are covered neither by freedom of panorama nor de minimis, these need to be released under a free license as well. You only need to release those parts that are actually visible on the photo, i.e. you do not need to grant permission to use anything else than the photo as a basis, but you still have to grant permission to e.g. crop a certain visible card out and then redistribute just that part according to the terms of a free license. darkweasel94 12:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Darkweasel, despite usually agreeing with you on most things, I believe you are wrong here. It might be better to take this to Commons:Village pump/Copyright where experts are more likely to weigh in. As far as I know, as the creator of a game, Dennis is completely capable of free-licensing a particular image without free-licensing underlying content. An analogous example would be that a sculptor could free-license a photo of his or her own sculpture without free-licensing the sculpture, or a photographer could free-license a low-resolution version of a photograph without free-licensing a full-resolution version. - 22:21, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but the copyright holder cannot then sue people if they use only the photo to reproduce one of these cards. darkweasel94 22:26, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
True that the elements are effectively released at the level they could be re-derived from the image. Dennis, for your own protection you might want to release a lower-resolution version instead. - Jmabel ! talk 22:33, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you all for your help and feedback! Much appreciated. I will release a lo-res verzion as Jmabel suggests. Regards, Dennis

Letters and Letterheads

Are there any copyright considerations regarding uploading a copy of a letter on a company Letterhead received in 1960 ? [topic was termination of my employment !!]

Would it be OK to upload same letterhead minus text ? Tfitzp (talk) 14:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

  • It really depends. Would the letterhead be considered PD due to either age or a low threshold of originality in the country it was made? What type of information does the letterhead contain (ie images/logos and such things that may be considered copyright)? Liamdavies (talk) 16:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Obvious age - clearly has originality in UK but related to a past era - contains company name plus logo Tfitzp (talk) 21:30, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I don't see how the 1960s would be long enough to satisfy PD-old conditions (unless you can show that the logo itself is PD). More information about copyright in the UK can be found at Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United Kingdom, but without knowing exactly what the image is, what the content is, and what the logo is it is almost impossible to give any form of advice beyond that. If you have a particular article in mind for it's usage, you may find en:WP:NFCC useful if you don't think it can be hosted here. Liamdavies (talk) 17:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Image upload

I came across a company logo for a defunct company which has a wiki history page (American Management Systems) Stock symbol AMSY. I would like to upload the image but don't know if that is allowed. I have only this to contribute right now so I do not have 10 edits to confirm my account. Acount = chriswfoxus.

Can you point me in the right direction?

Thank You Chris (— Preceding unsigned comment added by chriswfoxus (talk • contribs) )

[email address removed]

  • Whether the company still exists or not has no bearing on the matter: some successor entity (typically some creditor, if they went bankrupt) would hold the surviving intellectual property rights.
  • You don't point at a copy of the image; if it was simple enough (or old enough, like pre-1923 in the US) it would be ineligible for copyright and we could host it (probably tagged with {{Trademarked}}). If not, then we can't. - Jmabel ! talk 22:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Dr.jur.Otto Rudolf Haas.jpg

Das Bild entstammt einer Firmenzeitschrift aus den 50ger Jahren. Schon damals kein Copyright angegeben. Die damalige Firma existiert seit 30 Jahren nicht mehr. Der Name wurde auf eine andere Firma übertragen. Was soll ich als Urheberrechtsinformation und Lizenzvorlage angeben, damit das Bild öffentlicht bleibt?

--Santasantaxxx (talk) 10:49, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

  • The continued existence or non-existence of the firm has no bearing on the duration of copyright. There is always some successor who owns the copyrights until they expire: that could be the heirs of the photographer, it could be the State, and there are other possibilities. In most European countries, copyright persists for the life of the author plus 70 years, so works of anyone alive in 1943 are still in copyright. There is no particular reason to believe that the photographer died that soon after taking the photo. The only possibility I can think of is if the photographer was genuinely anonymous, rights might persist for only 70 years from the time the photo was taken. I suggest you bring the question to Commons:Village pump/Copyright. They may be better at sorting out the precise situation. (If someone can translate my remarks into German, it would be appreciated. I read German pretty well, but write it poorly.) - Jmabel ! talk 16:49, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Landry Bender Headshot.jpg

--Hanvyng (talk) 15:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC) I have a file that I found on Zimbio, a popular website to find photographs of celebrities. I have already uploaded the photograph but I will remove it until I get a reply. How would I categorize this photo? Thank you very much. --Hanvyng (talk) 15:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

  • I'm sorry, but this file should simply be removed from Commons. The image is certainly not in the public domain, and you presumably don't own the rights to it, so you can't grant a free license. You could approach the rights-holder and see if you can get permission for some free license (see COM:OTRS for information about how to proceed on this) but in this case I'd say it's pretty unlikely that you will get that permission. Clearly "All rights reserved" does not show the intention of granting a free license. - Jmabel ! talk 16:55, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Photo Deleted - Not Sure Why

I was recently notified that I photo I had uploaded was deleted for copyright violations (File:Dorothy Lake State Natural Area.jpg). There was no other info given. The photograph is my own photograph, and other photos I took, and uploaded here, were not deleted. Is there a way to find out the basis for deletion, and how I can remedy the situation? Thanks! Aarongunnar (talk) 20:20, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

It was deleted due to it being found on flickr. I have checked and that image on flickr is freely licensed, I will undelete it and upload the full size version from flickr. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:49, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Farma Slovakia Logo.jpg

--I am uploaded logo of reality show Farma. I´m don´t know which licences is corect. It a official logo made by TV Markíza.I will be happy if you add the licencion.Nicko221 (talk) 20:39, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

None of the licences are acceptable, the image is a clear copyright violation. Please do not upload material that is not either
  1. Made by yourself;
  2. Explicitly released under a free licence.
Images you find on the internet are generally not acceptable for upload here. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:54, 29 November 2013 (UTC)