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Upload of multiple files from a deceased relative (File:U-156 37-35 Laconia 1942 09 15.jpg)

My great-uncle made around 1000 photos when he served in the German Navy (before/during 2nd world war). Some of the pictures are rare (e.g. the picture from the Laconia incident that I have uploaded), additional pictures from ~1937 to 1943 will follow. I've also already sent an e-mail to (05 April)

1) Do I have to use OTRS? 2) Is it possible that I attach additional pictures to the same OTRS ticket? If yes: How? And how would it work? Are the additional pictures then auto-approved when I refer to an approved ticket?

The situation is always the same: my father inherited the rights, he asked me to upload the files.

M colorfu (talk) 16:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

If you sent the images as an attachment to permissions-commons, they will be redirected to the photosubmission queue where there is a 5-month backlog. If you prefer to upload the images yourself, you don't need to send in any email permission where you are the owner of the images. Stifle (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Shaun White

I would Like to post a picture of shaun white and his former girlfriend Summer Spiro(from the band RubySummer newly signed to disney's lyirc street records he has confirmed dating her many times in various interviews and i would also like to edit his personal life to mention that he dated her

Where did you get the picture? Stifle (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

license check/deletion request: [1]


I'm not sure where the user (Zithan) got permission to post this picture, but the woman in the picture, my colleague, Victoria Obst, would like it deleted. Please inform me of the procedure to take it down. Here is the file: Vicky_Obst_on_assignment_in_Nepal.jpeg

Thank you, Naureen

Naureen, thank you for letting us know. Could she send this request via email to —Pill (talk) 16:53, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Actually that's a bad place to send it. It should to to if the image is a copyright violation, or if not. If it's already sent, it will be redirected to the right place. Stifle (talk) 09:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

File:350110 at Stafford departing for Brum 29Oct2005.jpg

Hi guys,

This image is from a website where other photos are all rights reserved, but per User:L.m.k/E-Mail Andrew Maycock the author gave permission under GFDL. However, L.m.k hasn't been on wiki for 2 years, so I doubt we can get permission emailed to OTRS (I just sent an email asking). Can we just copy this to an otrs ticket, or should I start a DR as lacking permission? -mattbuck (Talk) 17:14, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Speaking for me, it would definitely not be sufficient to simply copy the email to OTRS. —Pill (talk) 18:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I concur with Pill. The permission needs to be sent via email where we can see proper headers; with due respect and no accusation involved, anybody could have written the details on that page. Stifle (talk) 09:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
That's what I was worried about. I'll wait a few days for an email and if nothing comes I'll delete it. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

License check on File:Jonathan Brandis Wiki.jpg

License information is missing for this image. --High Contrast (talk) 08:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

OTRS tag was added by the uploader; now removed. Stifle (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Ok, but here is no need for stating any license information? --High Contrast (talk) 18:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
There is.Pill (talk) 10:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


Can someone confirm, that the ticket this user selected for his fakes (belonging to files like File:ColinFirth05.jpg or File:Dita Von Teese at Selfridges, London.jpg) is indeed a fake? --Martin H. (talk) 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

You are correct. That ticket only refers to specific Caroline Ucci images from flickr. Inthernar is mis-using (or lying) about the ticket. I'd be glad to remove the ticket or take further action if necessary, but I'll leave you to it for the time being.

-Andrew c (talk) 12:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Ill just speedy delete the files. Note the false author information too, note the two deleted files DylanRamsey230px.jpg (log) and File:DylanRamsey.jpg. So: author wrong + ticket wrong.. fake upload, uploader searched for a way to trick Commons but he failed. --Martin H. (talk) 18:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Football photos

On Friday the confirmation on usage of football photos should come from michael_62(a) to permissions-commons(a) Can anybody show me Ticket's ID? Sidik iz PTU Sidik iz PTU (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

The ticket number is 2010040910027812 but in order for a permission email to be properly processed, a response team volunteer has to review it first -- he will tag the image description files accordingly or email you in case of outstanding questions. This may take about two or three weeks. —Pill (talk) 10:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Leningradartist

Does Leningradartist have permission from the painters? We know, that only the copyright holder can grant a license and that this requires a written form. So he must have some written paper from the painters or their heirs either 1) transfering copyright on the paintings or 2) allowing him to license the particular reproductions under CC. His bookcover File:Unknown-Socialist-Realism-bo47bw.jpg passed OTRS, but on a wrong base! The painter Alexander M. Semionov was not even mentioned as an author but it contains his work. Now on this OTRS pass he claimed everything he uploaded as validly confirmed via OTRS. Based on his uploads this includes the painters:

  • Alexander Semionov (1922—1984)
  • Lev Alexandrovich Russov (1926 - 1988)
  • Vladimir Ivanovich Ovchinnikov (1911 - 1978)
  • Frentz Rudolf (1883 - 1956)
  • Dmitry Ivanovich Maevsky (1917 - 1992)
  • Piotr Alberti (1913 - 1994)
  • Sergei Osipov (1915 - 1985)
  • Evgenia Antipova (1917 - 2009)
  • Nikolai Pozdneev (1930 - 1978)
  • Nikolai Timkov (1912 - 1993)
  • Yuri Khukhrov (1932 - 2003)
  • Taisia Afonina (1913-1994)
  • Veniamin Ivanovich Borisov (b. 1935)

Do the tickets 2010032110008071 and 2010040210038813 include this painters permissions to CC (or is the way of copyright transfer of the paintings explained and documented)? --Martin H. (talk) 00:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Note: Correspondence is in Russian. —Pill (talk) 10:33, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
User:Leningradartist asserts that he has exclusive rights for this paintings, which confirmed with paper agreements with each of listed authors. But OTRS correspondence not finished for this moment. — putnik 10:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Photo of Jane Bell Frazier

I would like permission to use the photo of Jane Frazier on my family tree.

Then, you have to ask the photographer. --Túrelio (talk) 20:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
That isn't necessarily true. First, you may want to review the FAQ. All content on the Commons is licensed freely, which means you are welcome to use the content, as long as you are following the terms of the licenses. For more information check out COM:REUSE and read the licensing information on the image description page for the image you want to use. -Andrew c (talk) 23:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


Is this a correct fix [2] of the missing ticket problem? There are bunch of other files with similar bad ticket number. --Jarekt (talk) 01:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

When following the concept, it would be. However, there's no such ticket. ZooFari 01:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the ticket number can't be determined by the link. If you could provide a list of files to us that show this error, we can help fix. I have corrected the example you provided. ZooFari 01:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into it. Below is the list of files with a similar problem. --Jarekt (talk) 02:41, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed. ZooFari 02:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks again. --Jarekt (talk) 03:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Nederlands: (missing text)

Op 31 maart 2010 is de website live gegaan (zie hier). Op de copyright pagina van deze site staat "Tenzij anders vermeld is op de inhoud van deze website de Creative Commons zero verklaring (CC0) van toepassing. Dit houdt in dat iedere vorm van hergebruik van de inhoud van deze site is toegestaan, tenzij bij of in een bepaald onderdeel (bijvoorbeeld een foto of een document) staat aangegeven dat op dat onderdeel een auteursrechtelijke uitzondering van toepassing is." Dit kan dus een zeer interessante bron zijn voor beeldmateriaal en het ligt voor de hand dat hiervan veelvuldig gebruik zal worden gemaakt. Het lijkt me erg onpraktisch als voor elke afbeelding afzonderlijk OTRS-toestemming moet worden verkregen. Daarom wil ik vragen of het mogelijk is om aan de uploadpagina deze bron expliciet toe te voegen (net als 'Het komt uit een bron van de federale overheid van de Verenigde Staten').

On March 31st 2010 the website went live. This website is created by the national government of the Netherlands. The (dutch) copyright page of this site states "Unless otherwise stated the Creative Commons zero (CC0) licence applies to the the contents of this website. This means that any reuse of the content of this website is allowed, unless it is indicated near or in a particular part (e.g. a picture or document) that a copyright exception applies." This site can be a very usefull source for images en it is to be expected that it will often be used as such. I think it would be very impractical if OTRS-permission needs to be requested for every single picture. So I would like to request to add this source explicitly to the dutch uploadpage (similar to 'It is from a US federal government source').
--NormanB (talk) 23:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Which is the same as {{PD-NL-Gov}}. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Pieter, thanks for your response. I have been able to upload a few pictures using this template, now I know it exists. But my request remains, since it is completely unclear that this template should be used when one views the uploadpage. The 'licentie' dropdown list doesn't show this option and the explanation on the top of the uploadpage doesn't mention anything about the option of using a special template in the 'toestemmings' box. With the information on the uploadpage, one would have to conclude that one has to use the OTRS route, which would be very cumbersome and, as I now understand, is not the correct route. So if anyone could make the upload page more clear in this respect, that would be very helpful. --NormanB (talk) 11:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

OTRS permission required for two images


I have recently uploaded two images:

(File:Megalodon jaws on display at the National Baltimore Aquarium.jpg) and (File:Megalodon skeleton.jpg)

I request some one to check the information and provide OTRS permission. I have permission to use these images on wikipedia from their authors (copyright holders). The copyright holder of the first image instructed me to use Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license and I used it accordingly. The copyright holder of the second image instructed me to simply credit him and I did that, but I have used Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license for it too. The copyright holder of the second image have checked the details of the uploaded image by visiting the article in which it has been cited, and he did not object to this choice of license.---LeGenD (talk) 11:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you sent the permission you received from the copyright holders by email to If not, then please do so. If you have, please wait for an email reply to confirm that the permission has been received. The current processing time for permissions is three weeks. Stifle (talk) 11:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Although a week's worth of emails has been processed in the last day, so it mightn't be that long. Stifle (talk) 16:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

OTRS Permission to Use Image

I need permission to use File:SantiagoMapFinal.jpg. It says I have permission to use if I have an OTRS account or to post a message for someone who has this type of account. My email is Thank you, Allison

I'm afraid that isn't what that tag is saying. Please refer to the licensing information, and note that you are free to use the image as long as you follow the terms of that license. For more information, see COM:REUSE. -Andrew c (talk) 20:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Does this one look good now?

Hi! I found matching OTRS ticket for this image File:Cat in Winter.JPG. Anyone thinks it is not ok now? --MGA73 (talk) 20:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine. Of course, keep in mind that there's really no way to verify any of the email addresses in the ticket other than to email here and see if you get something back. But that's an inherent limit of the system we have. Your task is done.--Chaser (talk) 21:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Permission to use ticket #2008041610018297

for an architectural magazine, OnOffice.



MNwilloughby(at)gmail (dot) com

Have you read the FAQ and COM:REUSE? Stifle (talk) 13:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Ticket 2010041410016056

The person has stuck a great big watermark on the picture claiming their copyright. Can we accept this? I don't really want to put it on the article in that state. 15:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I cannot find a file on Commons associated with that ticket. I've viewed the ticket, and it is a photosubmission, not permissions, related image, and it has not been approved/uploaded yet to my knowledge. If the submission is approved, and it licensed freely, then we are free to remove the watermark under the terms of the license. Can you post a link to the image you are discussing? Thanks. -Andrew c (talk) 17:32, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

[Urgent] Request on the Usage of "File:07 - Vivaldi Autumn mvt 1 Allegro - John Harrison violin.ogg"

Dear all,

I would like to know if someone can tell me that do I have the right to use the music file "File:07 - Vivaldi Autumn mvt 1 Allegro - John Harrison violin.ogg" to be score of one of a broadcasting promotion video? Who and how should I seek permission of using it in the shortest time? Please contact the undersigned if you know. Many great thanks!!

Mkkisaac (talk) 05:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC) Mak Kit Kwan, Isaac <email address removed>

I emailed him Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia via Special:Emailuser.--Chaser (talk) 05:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Sounds like a pointer to COM:REUSE would have done just as well. Stifle (talk) 08:43, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

OTRS #2010040810034691

Hi. I am wondering what is covered in OTRS #2010040810034691. TeeExperte (talk · contribs) has uploaded several images of dubious copyright, but that OTRS number is used at de:Diskussion:Teepack - I just don't read German so I don't know what it says or what the OTRS is for. Most or all images from TeeExperte are now at COM:DR and s/he has been brought up at COM:AN/U. Thank you. Wknight94 talk 18:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The ticket addresses the copyright of text at the (since deleted) Teepack_GmbH article. It doesn't address images. Эlcobbola talk 18:21, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Just for the record: The article was moved to de:Teepack, the legal form of the company, GmbH, was removed. --Martin H. (talk) 00:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Spanish anyone?

Hi! I'm working on Category:Items missing OTRS ticket ID and I wonder if match File:Motopuma.jpg? --MGA73 (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Could be, but we need someone who understands Spanish. —Pill (talk) 09:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

The ticket was mainly for the text, but the authorities of the website granted permission for "the content/material" to be licensed under GFDL. Estoy de acuerdo con que el material se publique bajo la

licencia GFDL

English: I agree that the material is published under the GFDL

I don't feel it's enough for the ticket to be a permission for images on the website, as the whole email pertained to the text and not explicitly for images. Thoughts? ZooFari 15:42, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Ludwigsbahnhof Fuerth 1835.JPG

Please check the permission for the picture Ludwigsbahnhof Fuerth 1835.JPG. I've sent the permission given by the builder of the model to Urmelbeauftragter (talk) 14:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I've updated the image description page. Note, however, that it may take up to some weeks until your email will have been processed. —Pill (talk) 14:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

please verify

I have obtained permission and I have made templates: --Quahadi Añtó 15:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

OTRS emails are processed in the order received. There is currently a queue of approximately three weeks for processing of emails, and it would not be fair to jump your request ahead of the rest. Stifle (talk) 08:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Done. Permission granted--Ex13 (talk) 20:02, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Did they grant for just a specific list of images? If so, the templates should probably be subst'ed for those images. Wknight94 talk 20:23, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
It's allowed to take all pictures from under cc-by-sa-3.0 licence. Also it's allowed to take pictures from album under cc-by-sa-3.0 licence, except pictures with clearly visible people faces.--Ex13 (talk) 09:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


I would like to know the content of the email sent from the ICRC on their emblem image. There is a discussion on that here and there seems to be some confusion on how the emblem should be properly used. --SaMi 17:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

There's no email, no such ticket. I tried searching for it but I didn't get any results. ZooFari 18:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
That's weird. It seems the file the email originally applied to was File:ICRC Logo.png. It was changed according to the email on 11 February 2007. If that makes a difference. --SaMi 21:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Russian anyone?

Hi! I also need a check for File:Окрестности села Янурусово (Ишимбайский район).jpg and File:Река Кияук.jpg. Perhaps this ticket 2010041610044423 / [3] works. --MGA73 (talk) 13:16, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Russian is a language for which it might make more sense to directly ask a speaker that is currently active on their home project. I see several Russian speakers listed at OTRSwiki:List of accounts and meta:OTRS/personnel.--Chaser (talk) 22:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Could be. I just thought - what is the point of having a OTRS noticeboard and to have this "Commons user and wish to confirm the permission, please contact someone with an OTRS account or leave a note at the OTRS noticeboard." in {{OTRS}} if users with OTRS account do not look here? :-( --MGA73 (talk) 09:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
You may get a Russian speaker responding here. If you don't, it may be necessary to contact them directly. Cheers.--Chaser (talk) 22:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Users with OTRS accounts look here. It's just primarily English speakers. :-) Killiondude (talk) 05:41, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Porcupine Tree band 2005.jpg and ticket 2006082110002647

File:Porcupine Tree band 2005.jpg has been marked for deletion. There is a reference to OTRS #2006082110002647. Does that OTRS confirm use of the image? Thank you. Wknight94 talk 14:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

It appears that a Wikipedian sent in an email asking for the copyright holder to use a free license, listed several, then the copyright holder just said "OK". Essentially, they didn't really choose a license. Killiondude (talk) 05:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

What criteria do you guys have?

In view of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Lisa11-big.jpg I wonder what criteria you guys have for stating: "The permission for use of this work has been verified". This indicates that permission did not come from the photographer. In this case I would like to know who granted permission. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 19:23, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Answered by Rjd0060 here. --Captain-tucker (talk) 09:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I had seen that. It is not an answer to my questions. My impression from the outside is that the criteria for giving an OTRS ticket are less stringent than what is used in typical deletion requests for images uploaded by contributors without OTRS. So I asked for the criteria here, and specifically, for this image, I would like to know who granted permission. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 11:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I think we have fairly strict standards on OTRS, or at least I've had issues come up in the past where users submitting permissions have been upset when I have said they aren't sufficient. Generally speaking, if something has been published elsewhere on the internet, we need to have a consent statement or form filled out by the copyright holder (and we check to see if the e-mail address it is being sent from matches what is listed on the contact page of the website where the content was first published). If they don't match up, we ask them to resend from an official e-mail address, or amend their webpage to list the new e-mail address. This doesn't cover all situations though, but it is the most common situation when dealing with permission. OTRS agents are asked to respect the privacy of those who send in permission, and we aren't to give out names, e-mail addresses, and other personal information. This may be why people are reluctant to be more specific in regards to "who granted permission". I've also viewed the ticket and found it clearly sufficient, but I don't want to get into more detail than necessary. A website that published the images got us in touch with an authorized party of the estate who gave permission.-Andrew c (talk) 13:35, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Generally, in deletion requests, permission by a site owner posting the image is not good enough. For example, lots of images are posted by people on Flickr with a free license. That in itself is not sufficient to keep if that photo is not theirs. Typically, such images would get deleted on commons.
Also, in deletion requests, it is not uncommon that portraits get deleted that were submitted by the subject him/herself, or by heirs of the subject. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 14:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
We are well aware of flickrwashing and rarely approve Flickr posted images, instead referring them to flickrreview. We also have a template response which points out the photographer is often the copyright holder, not the subject of the photograph. I entirely believe OTRS' handling of your example situations is entirely in line with how they are handled in deletion discussions. People can't sneak stuff through OTRS because we are more slack or anything like that (not to say that things don't sometimes fall through the cracks at both OTRS and DR).-Andrew c (talk) 14:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Let's get to the point. What specifically do you think is wrong with this image in relation to permission? do you have evidence that someone has submitted false information or is lying about permission?-Andrew c (talk) 14:42, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
No, how could I "have evidence"? I had asked because of the quote given here: "I do not own [the photos]." All that I can see is that the images were uploaded by User:Bynk in December, with Jeff Jacobson as the author, his website as the source, and GFDL as the licence. This has now changed completely. The licence is now CC-BY, although the quote talked about PD, and although credit does not seem to go to the photographer. (I am only responding since you asked; after your previous answer I had decided to drop it, because I do not wish the family to be bothered.) /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
The user who uploaded the content was confused or didn't have permission or something else along those lines, and thus entered incorrect information when first uplaoded. Through various e-mails on OTRS to two different individuals, we eventually received permission. Through these e-mails, we discovered information that the uploader did not know, and that is why the information changed on the image description page. The ticket is hard to read due to the formatting of the older messages (you know how some e-mail programs add lines and >>>>> marks to designate older e-mails being replied to). The website owner is the one who said "I do not own the photos". The OTRS agent asked for clarification and then we were put in touch with an authorized party of the family. The final permission did not come from the uploader or the website owner, as stated previously. The permission is valid in my opinion, and in the opinion of the agent who approved the ticket. Hope this helps. Not trying to drag this out any further, but I don't want you to leave thinking OTRS is lenient or allowing improper content. -Andrew c (talk) 16:04, 20 April 2010 (UTC)



Could someone please check this ticket and see if it provides answers to the problem I mention on Commons:Deletion requests/United States Holocaust Memorial Museum photographs and texts ? Is there a list of file names ? What is the licence of the files ? Does it adress the copyright status of the texts ? Teofilo (talk) 06:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I could not locate ticket 2007071910012533 in the OTRS system, also did a search for Buchenwald_Children_26146.jpg, Buchenwald_Children, Buchenwald Children with no results. --Captain-tucker (talk) 09:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your research. Teofilo (talk) 09:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I found the ticket (it is not in a permission queue) but it does not contain any information about copyright status; we were only noticed about a mass-upload of images. However, from what I can tell from the email address used, I can confirm that the claim on User:USHMM, i.e. that "This user is in fact affiliated with the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.", is apparently correct. —Pill (talk) 11:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, should have said 'within the permissions queues'. Too bad OTRS does not tell you that the ticket exists but you don't have permission to view it. --Captain-tucker (talk) 13:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
An IP user, probably a person from the museum is asking at Commons:Deletion requests/United States Holocaust Memorial Museum photographs and texts what must be done so that the pictures are not deleted. Perhaps OTRS volunteers would like to add (or amend) whatever is necessary concerning OTRS requirements. Teofilo (talk) 08:31, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Update on OTRS backlog

I am pleased to advise that the backlog on OTRS permissions and permissions-commons queues has been cleared down and the average response time to permissions emails in English is now 2-3 days. Hopefully it stays that low. Of the other languages, German, Russian, and Portuguese are currently somewhat backlogged, and Spanish is heavily backlogged.

This does not apply, however, to emails where the image has not been uploaded, but has been attached to the email instead. Emails like this are sent to the photosubmissions queue, which has a substantially longer wait time. Stifle (talk) 09:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Martin Rummel.jpg

I sent the permission by the author of File:Martin Rummel.jpg by email. Is this sufficient now?

--DI Florian Fuchs (talk) 05:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

You should receive an email reply in a few days confirming either that the permission is acceptable or that it is not, and why not. Stifle (talk) 09:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Elena Panova Photo Session.jpg

File:Elena Panova Photo Session.jpg has an OTRS ticket - does it not also cover other images uploaded by the same user of the same subject around the same time? Just making sure before I deleted one. Thank you. Wknight94 talk 11:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

No, the ticket only covers that specific image. Physchim62 (talk) 12:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Double-check requested

Can someone double-check my work on these three images, please? (The issues are identical for all three.) OTRS ticket #2010041710024345. Relevant dialog and concerns here. Private comments can be emailed to me. Thank you.--Chaser (talk) 04:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Additional: I wrote an possible author in my edit summary, if that author is covered by the source everything is fine although - as a matter of accuracy - I not like the already disclosed author information not being mentioned here but only someone called 'Thorson's webmaster' who has presumably no authorship. I'm not an OTRS volunteer, so I cant say its not OK, but from seeing the outcome of information I would say, its an mislabeled photo that was given from the photographer to the subject for a limited purpose (portfolio, use on own website) and without a copyright transfer taking place, as User:Toglenn once explained to me that this is a very common procedure in that industry. I refer to en:Wikipedia:Contact us/Photo submission requiring a description of the scenario of copyright transfer. --Martin H. (talk) 09:15, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Update I think we're good. [4].--Chaser (talk) 14:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Category:Items missing OTRS ticket ID

Hi! I just wanted to remind everyone that this category needs attention reguarly. At the moment the category contains 346 images mainly because I used my bot to find images with no ticket or a bad syntax. Asuming that volunteers know the syntax it could be a indication that ticket was added by a non-OTRS-user. So it might be a good idea to check image when syntax is fixed. I hope some users will help cleaning up. --MGA73 (talk) 19:33, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Starting to work on it. After fixing 10, one pattern has appeared, the id and ticket get reversed sometimes with id=ticket URL and ticket=id #. --Captain-tucker (talk) 19:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Super! I fixed some of these syntax errors with the bot and I just noticed that the number is down to 191 images. --MGA73 (talk) 12:07, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
I have this down to 88, I think I have almost all of the syntax issues fixed, have been playing with AWB and trying to remember what little I learned about REGEX years ago. --Captain-tucker (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Your Favorite Enemies pictures

There are currently eight pictures on Commons for Your Favorite Enemies,

1) File:Your favorite enemies 01.jpg
2) File:Cd your favorite enemies.jpg
3) File:Ep your favorite enemies.jpg
4) File:Japan 01.jpg
5) File:Japan 02.jpg
6) File:Japan 03.jpg
7) File:Japan 04.jpg
8) File:Japan 05.jpg

that were orginally uploaded with OTRS permissions but there are no tickets numbers. The uploader says they are the copyright holder, but they list a flickr source where the images are "All rights reserved." I would appreciate if someone would be able to look into these files. Aspects (talk) 16:56, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

See here. -Andrew c (talk) 17:55, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Royal Trophy 2010.jpg and 2008020410021415

File:Royal Trophy 2010.jpg is tagged as having no source, but I noticed the uploader included "Ticket#2008020410021415" in the info box. Is that a valid ticket? If so, does it clear up the source and permission of the image? Thanks. Wknight94 talk 15:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

That does not appear to be a valid OTRS ticket number. I enter it into the system and it takes me to a zero results page. Keep in mind the first 8 numbers of an OTRS ticket # are the date, so why would a ticket from Feb 4, 2008 apply for an image taken in 2010? Seems odd. Have you contacted the uploader to see the intention? The user has been around for quite a while, so maybe there was a mistake somewhere. -Andrew c (talk) 19:49, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm, looks like the user has invented other ticket numbers: [5][6] Wknight94 talk 20:15, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
The first one is an actual OTRS ticket, and that user does appear to be the sender, but it's not in English, and it never received final OTRS approval. The 2nd one came up like the one you mentioned in your first message. Maybe there was a database loss? I know last year some unanswered tickets were deleted at some point, but don't know if something similar could explain these blank tickets, or whether they actually are 'made up', since at least one clearly isn't fake. -Andrew c (talk) 21:23, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm. Well, I've deleted File:Royal Trophy 2010.jpg anyway. Like you said, how can a picture of a 2010 golf event be approved in 2008? But maybe someone with matching language can assist the user. Wknight94 talk 21:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Any Dutch-speaking volunteer around? (Note that ticket:2008020410021415 and ticket:2008011410011651 are valid ticket numbers, the tickets are in the info-nl queue [unfortunately, with present configuration you are not displayed the tickets if you do not have at least read access to the queue in which they are stored]; a Dutch-speaking volunteer may also want to look at ticket:2007120410018181.) —Pill (talk) 09:01, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Normally I'm taken to a "no permission" error screen for situations like this, but for whatever reason I was taken to a nil search result, which is why I was saying they weren't real tickets. -Andrew c (talk) 13:41, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I think the "no permission" screen appears if you follow the ticket URL; it doesn't if you search for the ticket from within OTRS. —Pill (talk) 19:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
And either way can whoever finally deals with these tickets move them to permissions-nl? Stifle (talk) 09:10, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Verification needed

File:Mehdi Karubi-campagne.jpg and en:File:Portrait of Mohammad Khatami.jpg have the same OTRS number? feydey (talk) 01:19, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

The ticket references an entire picasa web album, but it isn't clear to me that an OTRS agent gave final permission. There were concerns about the photographer, not the subject owning copyright, and we never sent out a "thank you, images approved" message, so IMO both are lacking permission due to the ticket not having satisfactory evidence of permission. -Andrew c (talk) 18:13, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Another upload - en:File:505px-Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Nowruz.jpg - any decisions on keeping/removing these images? feydey (talk) 09:43, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

The Picasa web album tag these as non-commercial, and there were outstanding issues with the OTRS, so I'd say they are non-permission, deletable (however, I'm not 100% sure on that since there is a bit of Arabic in the tickets that I cannot read). -Andrew c (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


Commons has few images of coins from the same site. For example File:Half Shekel.jpg I wonder, if I may upload other image from the same site using the same permission. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that ticket is valid for GFDL/cc-by-sa-2.5 for all images on that site. Stifle (talk) 08:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 13:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Ticket 2007112910013309

Yes check.svg ResolvedPill (talk) 22:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi! There is a ticket for this file. Maybe someone can check it? Thanks! --Ireas talkdeen 18:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Raymond added an OTRS tag to the (now deleted) local file version on dewiki; the ticket number specified was the same as that mentioned by you. Does this suffice? —Pill (talk) 21:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Can you please correct the information on the file description (I don’t think that Reiner Beck is the author) and add the OTRS template? --Ireas talkdeen 05:05, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Permissions for photos resent

Yes check.svg ResolvedPill (talk) 22:01, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have resent the permission for photos hushuli.jpg, hushuli2.jpg, and hushuli in copenhagen.jpg. Posting here to let you know. Thank you very much. ~wangjing13 07:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

John Burroughs School 2009 prom invitation

While sorting photos related to high schools, I came across 3 images related to a controversial prom invitation in 2009. I have put them in Category:John Burroughs School 2009 prom invitation. They claim to have OTRS pending as of 2009-12-31, but were improperly templated, so that the OTRS template didn't actually appear. I fixed the templates, but they are still backdated and need to be dealt with. In particular, I've discovered that the origin of File:2009ControversialInvitation2.jpg appears to be The Seven Deadly Sins: LUST by Marta Dahlig (blackeri on deviantART) of Poland, and a free license is not likely. --Closeapple (talk) 08:57, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I cannot find anything related in our system. Could you perhaps add a "no license" tag? —Pill (talk) 22:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
They all have {{cc-zero}}, but that seems unreliable, especially for Marta Dahlig (a commercial artist with no evidence of having given permission). I've now added {{npd}} to #2 (Dahlig's) and {{nopd}} to the others. --Closeapple (talk) 22:46, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


2006101710008538 is used as an example ticket ID in several contexts, most notably Template:PermissionOTRS/doc. From Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard/Archive 3#Permission to use picture of stickleback stamp in book published by University? and {{Faroe stamps}}, I infer that it is valid for stamps from the Faroe Islands, but it appears that its use as an example parameter means that it is also being abused for other purposes (be it in good faith or in bad faith).

With that in mind, could I get an OTRS check on the following files:

Not sure all of these need an OTRS permission, although if the uploader thought one was needed, clarification might be needed, if only for that fact. Some definitely do need permission, and some also have issues with missing information. In those cases, please check if there is another valid ticket and correct and complete the information as needed. Thanks! LX (talk, contribs) 19:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

None of those images are covered by the ticket in question. The uploads by Artaveiro all seem suspect, as I could not locate anything about "Banten" when searching. Couldn't find a ticket for File:Dgte.jpg either. I only briefly searched for Alexms22's images since they were tagged as own work (didn't find a ticket in my minimal searching). And we clearly don't need OTRS for a Department of Treasure US work. Didn't find anything for TheChamp.jpg either. So, I'd say remove all references to this ticket, and the ones you feel need permission, tag as NPD and contact the uploader. Hope this helps. -Andrew c (talk) 00:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea to also go through all the examples using it and change it to some obviously bogus number like, say, 2010023012345678? —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 01:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Might be a good idea! Except I think your number isn't obviously bogus. maybe something with all zeros or Xs. -Andrew c (talk) 02:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, I was trying to make it follow the usual format. But yeah, you're right, 0000000000000000 is probably better. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 06:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I went and changed Template:PermissionOTRS/doc to use 0000000000000000 for the examples (except for the old-style syntax where I had to use 2000000000000000 instead to make it work; eww). I also make the same change to w:Template:PermissionOTRS/doc, but there are still quite a few other pages left using the 2006101710008538 number. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 07:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Went through and fixed up/tagged all the files above. LX (talk, contribs) 08:58, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I just did a search for the ticket URL example given, and found some more bogus images. I'll list them as you listed the ones above:

And as above, I'd say mark them as NPD if you think they need permission, simple remove the tag if it's sufficient "own work", and contact the uploader when in doubt. Good luck! -Andrew c (talk) 02:52, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the files referencing this example URL, it seems that permission is valid for some works by Matthew Bowden. Correct?
For File:Cristian berrios.jpg (which makes no reference to Matthew Bowden), the OTRS tag was added by the uploader, Seth Garden, who is not an OTRS volunteer and thus should not be adding such tags. Still, User:J.smith, who is an OTRS volunteer, was somehow able to confirm the permission, and Shizhao, who is also an OTRS volunteer, found the information provided to be satisfactory enough to remove the file's problem tag.
For File:Geir Stian Orsten Ulstein av Tonsart .jpg and File:Geir Stian Orsten Ulstein 2 av tonsart.JPG, the references to the example ticket were added by Kjetil r, who is an OTRS volunteer.
I feel like I have no idea what's going on here. Could anyone clear this up? LX (talk, contribs) 08:58, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea what those other admins were doing. I can only confirm that the ticket on those images only relate to stock.xchng user thesaint, and that all of those images are not sourced to stock.xchng user thesaint, and therefore at the very least have an incorrect OTRS ID. I can try to search the system, but if the permission was given in a non-English info queue instead of a permission queue, I won't be able to see if there is a ticket for the image or not. I can also search based on what OTRS agent gave the permission... it'll take a bit of time, but I guess I'll look into it further maybe later tonight or tomorrow. -Andrew c (talk) 20:21, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for that, I don't know what happened there. Good thing that Andrew c fixed it. --Kjetil_r 17:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
  • File:Cristian_berrios.jpg Uploader added OTRS #[7]. Not sure what OTRSN discussion Martin H was discussing, I looked at archive 2 and nothing from around 31 August 2009 jumps out at me. I'd say this image has no permission, as I searched OTRS for it's file name and got nothing
  • I found a ticket for the 2 Geir Stian Orsten Ulstein images, so I have stricken them. -Andrew c (talk) 17:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

"permissions-commons" access

Until about two years ago, I had access to "permissions-commons" and a couple of more permissions queues. For some reason, this access disappeared, and I now only have access to the "info-no" queue. Is it possible to get the access to "permissions-commons" back? Regards, --Kjetil_r 17:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

You might contact one of the OTRS administrators directly. I don't think they read this page regularly.--Chaser (talk) 18:10, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
There is an OTRS admin noticeboard on the OTRS wiki, which at least 2-3 of them regularly monitor, so response time is often snappy. -Andrew c (talk) 19:07, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I do not know about an OTRS wiki (when was this information sent out to OTRS volunteers?), but I'll contact one of the admins directly, thanks. --Kjetil_r 11:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Looks like it was created in September 2008. I've been an OTRS agent for just over a year, and so I was told about it when my account was created. It's located at If you are interested, I'm sure whatever admin you talk to can create an account for you there, if you don't already have one. -Andrew c (talk) 13:10, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, have emailed user:Guillom about this. --Kjetil_r 13:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

chasing permission...

Hi, I emailed through a permission for File:Currawong explosion 8.jpg yesterday (or the day before?) - the copyright holder had sent it to me rather than directly to permissions - I wasn't sure how long the wait was currently but the last two got approved within a day (for which I was grateful). If someone could chase up and verify I'd be very grateful. Casliber (talk) 14:07, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

There may be as many as 40 e-mails before yours. Please be patient. While the backlog has been reduced since a month ago, you still should wait 14 days or so before contacting us here. Thanks! (I'm almost positive your request will be handled before then, so hold tight!) -Andrew c (talk) 16:47, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for getting back to me :) Casliber (talk) 20:45, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Permission for Vivaldi Autumn mvt 1 allegro - John Harrison violin

Hi, I'd like to confirm the permission for File:07 - Vivaldi Autumn mvt 1 Allegro - John Harrison violin.ogg. Could someone please provide the details? 20:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Prof. John Harrison has clearly stated he has the full copyright to that file in his e-mail to the OTRS on 2007-02-27. This has been checked by OTRS people in 2007 and seems to be ok. odder (talk) 22:20, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Lysenko-05 (New Guinea island, papua people).jpg

It says that permission from Lysenko was sent to permissions-ru on 03 may 2010, but description has no OTRS-ticket. Can someone look for that ticket ? Rubin16 (talk) 12:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Russian queue is backlogged 3 months. So it's probably in there towards the bottom, with around 60 tickets in front of it. I can't verify that 100% because I don't read Russian. I'd say we should add the OTRS pending template to the image, as that is the proper procedure, and helps add the image to the proper pending categories. -Andrew c (talk) 13:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I did some more digging and looked from 5/1-5/6 in the Russian queue and found no tickets dealing with this image. I also searched for the file name (and variations on it) and found nothing.-Andrew c (talk) 13:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Marienhafe Orgel 6.jpg

Wikiwal3 (talk · contribs) is saying that the otrs:4514443 for File:Marienhafe Orgel 6.jpg should also include File:Marienhafe Orgel 1.JPG, File:Marienhafe Orgel 2.jpg, File:Marienhafe Orgel 3.jpg, and File:Marienhafe Orgel 4.jpg. Can someone verify and add OTRS tags to those if applicable? Thank you! Wknight94 talk 14:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The linked ticket (2010022310007392) applies only to File:Marienhafe Orgel 6.jpg, which is referenced specifically by file name. There is no reference, either explicit or implicit, to other files. Эlcobbola talk 15:51, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The original ticket you linked to only mentioned image 6. We have received, in the last 10 hours, a few e-mails from the same individual who sent the first dealing with those other images. They should be approved in a couple days. Hope this helps. -Andrew c (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Ah, even better. Thanks! Wknight94 talk 15:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Just noticed that; I'll do it now as Wikiwal3 seemed a bit agitated in the link above. Эlcobbola talk 15:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Done. New ticket was merged and images tagged. Эlcobbola talk 16:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your fast support! Wikiwal3 (talk) 07:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Email thread -> OTRS

Could someone put the conversation from File:Anna Ahmatova's grave.jpg into a ticket & remove it from the image page. cheers --DieBuche (talk) 11:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

OTRS doesn't work like that. If the uploader and/or copyright holder wants us to approve a permission, they need to e-mail us directly or forward the messages with headers intact. Furthermore, that permission is not sufficient because the request was misleading by saying we are non-commercial, and the permission seems to be for "Wikipedia only" where permission has to allow 3rd party reuse, modification, and possible commercial use. Best thing to do would to have the copyright holder choose a free license, and then e-mail us directly a consent statement (i.e. COM:EMAIL) -Andrew c (talk) 13:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Around the Rings

Hi! I sent a permission granted by Around the Rings ( to permissions-commons, and I would like to ask its confirmation. I do not know if the copyright holder sent the permission directly (as I asked), so I decided to forward the email. Best regards; Felipe Menegaz 16:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Did you read the FAQ? We have a ticket that is 2 days old from you. There are maybe 30 e-mails in front of yours. I'm sure we'll get to it as soon as we can. Hope this helps. -Andrew c (talk) 17:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Felipe Menegaz, I've just checked this case and I haven't found an email by the copyright holder. But I've contacted him now such that we get this confirmed. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 17:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, and apologies for not reading the FAQ. Cheers; Felipe Menegaz 02:31, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

ID 178150

Can someone please check ticket ID 178150? It is used in File:Book cover - Shibari, the Art of Japanese Bondage.jpg und File:Book cover - Shibari, the Art of Japanese Bondage cropped.png, but does not seem to be valid. --Leyo 18:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's fine. I'll update the template. -Andrew c (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. --Leyo 20:21, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Request clarification on use of Ticket# 2006092710009217

Ticket# 2006092710009217 has been cleared to state that Classical Numismatic Group has released images of ancient coins on their website ( under suitable licenses for Commons. I am wondering if this ticket is applicable to sites that claim to have obtained their images from CNG (File:Pdc 24586.jpg and File:Mithradatesi.jpg, which were taken from Jappalang (talk) 16:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

This ticket covers just two named images. I suggest to get in contact with the copyright holders for any further images or to explicitly ask for a general permission. --AFBorchert (talk) 17:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
This is a bit weird; according to Flominator and Siebrand at Commons:Deletion requests/Template:CNG (2), Ticket# 2006092710009217 is supposed to "licenses all images from the site both cc-by-sa-2.5 and GFDL." Instead, it covers only two images from the site? Jappalang (talk) 00:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't agree with Flominator's and Siebrand's interpretations. The permission applies to images at only (now dead - the ticket is from 2006). This same URL is pasted twice; there are not two unique coins and/or URLs in the ticket. My reading from this address, then, is that this permission applies to coins appearing in Auction 52, Lot 886. The ability to search the archive with that specificity, however, appears to be a pay only service. The site's screen shot of the archive suggests one coin per lot, which may mean this ticket applies to but one coin. (Although identification be be available through, I haven't looked.) If this ticket truly applies to all cng coins, I'd really appreciate an explanation of how that conclusion is to be reached. Эlcobbola talk 00:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I just forwarded the email to AFBorchert and the OTRS. I was really sure, that I asked them about all of their pictures. Looking at that email now, three and a half year later, I think I didn't :( The reason: I was just forwarding an email of someone else to them, where he mentioned two links. I thought, these were about the site in general (they didn't end on .jpg), but apparently they were links to certain coin images. I will ask them NOW, if we can use their pictures in general. :( --Flominator (talk) 08:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Flominator, the email you've forwarded to OTRS is a duplicate of the one we have already in ticket 2006092710009217. Please ask the copyright holder to send a general permission to OTRS, preferably refering to “[Ticket#2006092710009217]” in its subject. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 08:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I just forwarded you their reply. --Flominator (talk) 17:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, it's in our system. Following common practice, I have asked for a confirmation. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 18:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
We have received now the confirmation of the copyright holder in the OTRS system that this permission covers all images from the site under the free licenses {{GFDL}} and {{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}. I suggest to use {{self|1=GFDL|2=Cc-by-sa-2.5|migration=not-eligible|author=Classical Numismatic Group|attribution=Classical Numismatic Group, Inc.}}{{PermissionOTRS|id=2006092710009217}}. If this is likely to become a larger set of images, I might be helpful to create a specific license template for it. --AFBorchert (talk) 20:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Just a note that a specific license template was already created—{{CNG}}—although with ticket ID 450621. Jappalang (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
(outdent) Okay, now that the ticket (for all CNG photos) is sorted out, how about the original question: can this ticket apply to the photos on another site that claim them to be CNG images? Jappalang (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh sorry, I've missed that. I have asked the copyright holder for a confirmation regarding these two images and I've updated {{CNG}}. —AFBorchert (talk) 06:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
We have now received an explicit permission for the two images referenced above. As stated above, we have a general permission for all images coming from In case of doubts for images coming through third parties, I suggest to post them here such that an OTRS member can ask the copyright holder for a confirmation. --AFBorchert (talk) 13:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much! But since you asked (heh), would anyone mind checking File:Mithridatesiiyoung.jpg? It came from, which uses images from several coin auction site (including CNG). I have yet to see a CNG image with a pale blue background, and so would like this to be verified. Jappalang (talk) 17:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


Could someone fix/verify the template for File:C-Rodriguez.jpg. cheers --DieBuche (talk) 20:48, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. -Andrew c (talk) 21:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thx--DieBuche (talk) 21:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Statue of Jerzy Popieluszko, Popiersie ks. Jerzego Popiełuszki na Greenpoint u zbiegu Nassau Ave i Bedford Ave w sąsiedztwie McCarren Park (2).jpg

At Commons:Deletion requests/File:Statue of Jerzy Popieluszko, Popiersie ks. Jerzego Popiełuszki na Greenpoint u zbiegu Nassau Ave i Bedford Ave w sąsiedztwie McCarren Park (2).jpg the question has come up whether the OTRS permission is

  1. with respect to the photograph itself or
  2. with respect to the sculptor's copyright in the statue.

(2) would have to be given by the sculptor or his/her estate. This seems unlikely since the sculptor appears to be not generally know, hence the question. The ticket number is #2010042410021361. Thank you. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talkcontribs) 17:57, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Ticket is, unsurprisingly, in Polish. Polish-speaker needed. Stifle (talk) 09:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Image-transfer from en.wikipedia

This image was once deleted because there was no proper OTRS permission. Can somebody please check this again with this file? Thanks in advance. --High Contrast (talk) 16:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Whoever has all those emails needs to forward them, with headers intact, to Pasting them in won't do. Stifle (talk) 09:38, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Iskanwaya 1.jpg and File:Iskanwaya 2.jpg

Hi, according to the uploader, User:Meister, permission by the author (John Servayge (Manco)) was forwarded to the OTRS around the time the files were uploaded in November 2008. Seems something went wrong, as no confirmation of a valid OTRS ticket was added to the file description pages. Could somebody take a look into the OTRS system to check if the release by the author was ever received by the OTRS or if there were any problems with the release? Thanks, --Kam Solusar (talk) 04:12, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Ticket #2008110310020197 is associated with File:Iskanwaya 1.jpg. The agent asked the sender to get explicit statement of permission from the author, but a response was never received. ZooFari 04:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Meister says he doesn't have any details about the correspondence anymore, so we don't know what exactly the author agreed to back then. Seems like the images have to be deleted. --Kam Solusar (talk) 17:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Images are claimed to be from Flickr. Much easier to go through the flickrreview process, as often it is hard to confirm identities from flickr, plus flickr mail is not compatible with external e-mail programs, so it's best to just ask the owner to change the licensing tag on Flickr. -Andrew c (talk) 12:19, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
You're right, asking the Flickr user to change the licensing on Flickr is the easiest way. Maybe Meister still knows where exactly he found the images, because I can't find them or the user anywhere on Flickr. --Kam Solusar (talk) 17:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Image permission granted

Hi! I have permission from the webmaster of this site LINK to use this image: . I've contacted him here:

here is a private email from the webmaster: "You are welcome to use the photo, I am the web-master of, and I give you permission to use it in the wiki with the credit to, since it is our photo and we aren't sure which one of us took it."

What do I need to do now? JoeJohnson2 (talk) 02:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Have you seen w:WP:COPYREQ? First, you need a more specific permission statement, one that clearly is a declaration of ownership, followed by stating a specific license for reuse. Permission for us on Wikipedia only is not acceptable. You can have them forward a default consent statement to our e-mail address per COM:EMAIL, or you can forward the permission if it is sent to you, as long as you keep the e-mail headers intact, and don't copy and paste like you did here. It is a bit complicated, but we do take licensing and copyright issues pretty seriously here, since our mission is to be free (as in freely licensed). Hope this helps. -Andrew c (talk) 02:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

en:File:JVL Jack Snipe.jpg

Can someone check to see if the above file is OK & good for transfer under this ticket from File:04.JVL-Octopuss from Who's Zoo.jpg or this one from File:'muchness' for Alice089.jpg both from the same author? Thanks. -- Deadstar (msg) 12:37, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

No, each ticket is valid only for a few images mentioned in their associated email. The author did, however, state that permission should be validated to all the images at en:John Vernon Lord. The volunteer rejected and gave permission only to the files stated in the email. The author would need to send another email listing all of the images in the article (e.g. en:File:JVL Jack Snipe.jpg) in order to validate permissions for each image he is releasing. ZooFari 22:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Hm. That's too bad. And thank you for checking. -- Deadstar (msg) 07:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


Can I get an OTRS check on this file, which has been pending verification since January? Thanks! LX (talk, contribs) 17:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, File:RIT-nobody knows me.jpg. LX (talk, contribs) 17:49, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The email was received, but it was not enough to validate the permission. The email needs to be resent from an address listed in the sourced website. I have updated the templates. ZooFari 22:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. LX (talk, contribs) 05:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Ticket #4048859 used to verify identity or permission?

Is OTRS ticket 4048859 used to verify that Cazadoroculto is Carlos A. Cermele, or is it used to verify that Carlos A. Cermele permitted Cazadoroculto to upload File:Estudiantes Sudamericana 2008.jpg under public domain? If it is the first, then should it not be on Cazadoroculto's user page or on a special customized template for him to use for his uploads? If it is the second, then does it apply to Cazadoroculto's uploads of Cermele's other photos?

Ticket is in Spanish. Stifle (talk) 09:19, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Did you ever get a permission for use of all images from I'm sorry that I can't provide a ticket number--DieBuche (talk) 20:35, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

We would need a ticket number, or the subject of the email permission, or the address it was sent from. The OTRS search system is not very good to use. Stifle (talk) 09:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
This appears to be the relevant ticket. I don't know Spanish.--Rockfang (talk) 06:38, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

File:Phantom ray rollout.jpg

Can someone tell me the status of File:Phantom ray rollout.jpg. I nominated an article and the image for Did you know on Wikipedia and its in the Queue (without its image) set to appear 20 hours from now. Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I could not find anything in my queues when I searched for "Phantom ray rollout.jpg". This means one of three possible things 1) e-mail was never received 2) e-mail doesn't mention the filename by way of "Phantom ray rollout.jpg" or 3) it's in a queue I don't have access to. Do you have any more information, such as the subject of the e-mail, or e-mail address it was sent from or something I could search for (or the date it was sent, or what address it was sent to...) -Andrew c (talk) 16:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Date:Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Subject:File:Phantom ray rollout.jpg

If I send it again will you verify it?Marcus Aurelius (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Guess this one is my fault. I didn't search the subject line, ha. I only searched for message text. Anyway, I was processing images from the 15th earlier today, so due to the backlog, it may be another couple days before we can get to your request. Maybe another agent will see this, and due to the DYK deadline in 20 hours, decide to handle this ticket sooner. BTW, I've merged your newest e-mail with the original one, so there shouldn't be any confusion or duplicate response due to you having sent it twice.-Andrew c (talk) 17:32, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
This appears to be the relevant ticket. The copyright holder needs to clearly state they are releasing the image under a specific license.--Rockfang (talk) 06:49, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

File:William G. Barnes.jpg

I uploaded the image a few days ago, if the email I sent to the OTRS permissions email could be confirmed for the image, I'd really appreciate it. I understand there is likely an overload of images needing attention, but if the image could be verified sometime soon, to allow for any mistakes to be corrected as quickly as possible, again, I'd really appreciate it. Gage (talk) 10:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Roughly a 17 day backlog at this point for English language e-mails. Tickets are handled in the order they were received. Please be patient. Check the FAQ for more details. -Andrew c (talk) 13:21, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Could you please provide the subject line (or a portion of it) of the email that was sent to otrs?--Rockfang (talk) 06:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Mary and jesus.jpg English: Mary and Jesus Date Source Author Kelby Roche Permission (Reusing this file) OTRS Wikimedia The permission for use of this work has

Can This image be used in a book /Paperback Kindle. This is a beautiful image. Thank you. Mary and jesus.jpg English: Mary and Jesus Date Source Author

Kelby Roche Permission (Reusing this file) OTRS Wikimedia The permission for use of this work has been verified and archived in the Wikimedia OTRS system. It is available as ticket #2009020910028069 for users with an OTRS account. If you wish to reuse this work elsewhere, please read the instructions at COM:REUSE. If you are a Commons user and wish to confirm the permission, please contact someone with an OTRS account or leave a note at the OTRS noticeboard.

Ticket link: https:/ M Snydr

See the FAQ and COM:REUSE. We do not issue permission for any images we host. However, almost every image we host is licensed freely, which means you are free to use it if you follow the terms of the licensing (which differs for each image, and which can be found on each image's description page). -Andrew c (talk) 19:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

ticket #2010060110037232

Hello, could someone please check this ticket used on File:Jennette McCurdy KCA.JPG and say if the Email was sent by someone from Getty Images with sufficient authority to licence the file a free licenced file ?

I have nominated the file for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jennette McCurdy KCA.JPG.

After completing my nomination, I saw that some talk has already taken place on the uploader's talk page (User talk:Killiondude).

Teofilo (talk) 21:16, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Deletion request is closed and image deleted. And an OTRS agent is already on top of this. Nothing to see here. -Andrew c (talk) 21:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Resolved
Teofilo (talk) 22:04, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Confused about File:MehganCommercial.jpg and otrs:2010022010020417

I'm confused about File:MehganCommercial.jpg and otrs:2010022010020417. An OTRS ticket was applied but there is still no source. What is the OTRS ticket for then? Thanks. Wknight94 talk 18:17, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

File:MehganHeaneyGrier.jpg as example Rubin16 (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you want me to do. E-mail the user and scold them for not filling out the form properly? :) We have a clear consent form on file with OTRS, declaring that the copyright holder releases a set of images under a free license. This doesn't seem like an OTRS issue to me, but instead a user/content issue. But let me think about it some more :\ -Andrew c (talk) 19:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Actually I wasn't saying you should do anything. I'm just confused what happened. Did the user say they took the picture themselves? Or own some web site where it lives? I've never seen a file tagged with both no-source and OTRS. Wknight94 talk 19:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh, is the uploader claiming to be the model pictured, Mehgan Heaney-Grier? Wknight94 talk 20:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes. They are also claiming to own the copyright to the photos. I handled this ticket when I was working, en masse, to clear a backlog, so I should have been more persistent then about filling out all the upload forms.-Andrew c (talk) 20:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Well, some of them have been re-tagged as no-source, so they may wind up at COM:DR anyway. You'll definitely want to be clear on what was communicated - like if the sender owns her official web site or how else her identity was verified. Hopefully it wasn't just "Mehgan".  ;) Wknight94 talk 20:49, 9 June 2010 (UTC)