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Change "before 1923" to "before 1924"[edit]

Under the menu "The copyright has definitely expired in the USA", the first two options need to be updated to "before 1924". --Animalparty (talk) 20:06, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Standard value for Date work was created or first published[edit]

The standard value for Date work was created or first published used to be the creation date of the image (DateTimeOriginal in EXIF data). This obviously has changed recently to the date/time when the file was stored, which might be different e.g. in case of postprocessing in PhotoShop or Lightroom. For me, the current behaviour is not useful. I want to see the date when I took the image, not when I finished postprocessing. Is it possible to change this behaviour, e.g. by some preference settings? Regards, --Uoaei1 (talk) 15:54, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't think this behavior has changed recently. UploadWizard tries to fill in the date based on EXIF fields DateTimeOriginal, DateTimeDigitized, DateTime, Date (in this order), and then also on Flickr metadata (if the file was uploaded from Flickr). As far as I can tell it has been this way since 2015 or earlier. Matma Rex (talk) 16:17, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi Matma Rex, thanks for your feedback, but please check File:Hallstatt kath. Kirche Marienaltar Georg 01.jpg, for instance, which contains this information in EXIF. However, the date used is the export date/time from Lightroom. Same for all my recent uploads. --Uoaei1 (talk) 16:32, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the example. It looks like it was actually recently broken, and the precedence is inverted. I filed phab:T219331. Matma Rex (talk) 21:46, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
This bug has not yet been fixed even after the scheduled time window, 3 April 2019.--N509FZ Talk 前置,有座!Front engine with seats! 09:48, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Seems to be fixed meanwhile --Uoaei1 (talk) 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Allow User to delete his own uploads[edit]

I uploaded an image file. I wrongly placed the lengthy description as the file name. I wanted to delete it and upload with proper name. Alas, I wasn't allowed. Need to wait in-Queue in the deletion-log.

So, please Allow User to delete his own uploads. This is a logical step. Italic text

Veena.manikprabhu (talk) 07:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Veena.manikprabhu: Some of us can rename files, see COM:FR. Which filename is wrong, and what should be the new name?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 05:03, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
I believe this is the one listed at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Adverse effects of tobacco smoking Kannada text.svg. Jean-Fred (talk) 12:23, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

short descriptions[edit]

Latest updates force users to enter descriptions of at least five characters, which are often unnecessary in languages like Chinese and Korean. How about transforming this filter into a warning that users could override?--Roy17 (talk) 22:23, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Roy17: See mw:How to report a bug if you'd like to tell this to developers. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
@AKlapper (WMF): I thought that was the purpose of this page.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:23, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: See above: "However, this page is not frequented by developers." People create pages with best intentions but sometimes without a long-term concept how to make those folks who can actually fix issues be active on those (way too many) pages across way too many wikis... --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
@AKlapper (WMF): This page was created by WMF Staffer @Guillom 8 years ago. If it does not actually provide feedback to the people who are responsible for the Upload Wizard today, that should change. Otherwise, it should be considered a sham, any link(s) to it should be removed from the Upload Wizard, and it (and similar pages on other projects) should be marked as historical.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 12:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: UploadWizard has not had such links for years as far as I know (and I also removed the link to Phabricator lately as Phabricator is not a place for random feedback either), but anyone can edit wiki pages to link to any wiki pages... If you are aware of such links on wiki pages feel free to update them (as I personally agree with you, but I am not an UploadWizard developer). :) --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 13:06, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
@AKlapper (WMF): Thank you. I have marked it {{historical}}.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Just for context: This page used to be monitored by me when I was the Product Manager in charge of Multimedia Usability and UploadWizard when it was created many years ago and first enabled on Commons. That responsibility has shifted to other people over the years and it is indeed possible that the page is no longer monitored. guillom 16:20, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
@Roy17: I filed phab:T220474. Could you give an example of a description that you would have liked to enter? Thanks! Jean-Fred (talk) 07:18, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
I did see the disclaimer on top. I posted here anyway because I think a change is needed only if others share my thoughts and form a consensus. If someone would support the current filter of 5 characters, then the matter is up for debate. Filing a ticket for a controversial matter is not very helpful. If I concur with someone else's opinion, I would take it to phab myself like what Jean-Fred did for me. Developers should read this page once in a while, since this is the designated page for feedbacks.--Roy17 (talk) 11:41, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Uploading photos[edit]

I haven't yet managed to work out how to put the photo in a category, I expect I shall solve that one, and why am I forced to upload a description in a different language?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonbeck8848 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 18 April 2019‎ (UTC)
@Simonbeck8848: Please see COM:CAT for the first and COM:File captions for the second (captions are optional). What brought you to this page?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 23:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

New page: Country Specific Copyright links[edit]

The old page has been split and now you also have a country specific page

I suggest it should be added to the upload wizard see also Phabricator T221524 - Salgo60 (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2019 (UTC)


Some feedback from a recent session:

  • When in Special:Preferences, the "Upload file" link on the left panel, goes to the old upload form.
  • In the "Upload Wizard" section in preferences, any reason why Custom default license is only enabled for Somebody else's work and not Own work? There are a number of users who use additional custom license templates, in addition to the standard license, hence enabling this for all will be useful.

--Rehman 09:06, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Could anyone recommend me a browser to upload with this???[edit]

I'm planning to upload ~150 WebM videos (1.27 GB each) with this, tried Firefox, Chromium, GNOME-Web (each attempt takes a day to upload), always crashes after licensing. Special:UploadStash doesn't work. Commons:Upload tools#Standalone desktop applications tried all these tools without success (so frustrated after finding out they don't work -- I have managed to fill all the fields ie. name, description etc; they have long been unmaintained, either). I'm using Lubuntu 18.04.2 LTS 64bit with 4 GiB RAM, 15GiB swap.

Could anyone help me??? Thanks in advance.

Tomskyhaha (talk) 02:03, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, If your other videos are an indication, you should reduce the bitrate to a reasonable level (30 fps), then the videos won't be so big, and will be much easier to upload. Regards, Yann (talk) 05:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Yann: Thank you for addressing my concerns, however reducing bitrate is not an option in my case, since the very reason I recorded them in the first place is producing a faithful depiction of the places. The purpose would be defeated if I lowered the bitrate. And IMHO, higher bitrate means better quality, period. Regards Tomskyhaha (talk) 09:03, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Yann: In another message you pointed out the video quailty is mediocre, aside from their "small segment" nature, you might also want to give "original file" link a try, since the player defaulted streaming quality to WebM 360p. Regards Tomskyhaha (talk) 09:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Yann: A kind reminder: 30fps isn't bitrate, it's refresh rate. fps stands for "frame per second". The units for bitrate are Mbps, Kbps etc. Please ping me in reply, so I can receive a timely notification. Thanks Tomskyhaha (talk) 09:18, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Tomskyhaha: In the 2 samples you mentioned 120 fps (yes, refresh rate, but it doesn't matter for my point). For an ordinary videos like these, the human can't see the difference above 30 fps. So it is useless to record 120 fps, it won't increase the quality, that's mt point. So reducing the refresh rate would reduce the bitrate, and the volume of the video. If you want to increase the quality, you should reduce shaking and improve the contrast. For that you may need a better camera, a tripod, etc. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:35, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Maybe you may need to follow Help:Server-side upload, if the UploadWizard isn't going to work. When you say "crashing" does the page itself crash, does the upload hang or does the whole browser crash? In the past I have had a large file (~1GB to upload, 4GB of RAM (regardless of how much of a swap you have) it would crash the browser tab (Firefox and Chrome, while Safari would cause a Kernel panic) is likely the problem for my issue but your issue maybe related. Bidgee (talk) 09:40, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Yann: Please double-check second sample I gave you, this one,_Fanhe,_Tieling_165150002.webm is 120Mbps@30fps, that is 120 Mb per second, 30 frames per second, 3840x2160 resolution. Please differentiate them. Regards and excuse my brevity, I'm replying on my phone. Tomskyhaha (talk) 09:43, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Bidgee: Hi Bidgee! Thanks for your reply. Exactly your case, the Upload Wizard tab in Chromium crashes after hanging for about 1 minute. The page says, "Oh snap!", and provides the option to reload the page. I'm afraid the admins won't bother answer me if I request server-side upload. I'm running the Ubuntu on ESXi, maybe I should allocate more mem? Regards Tomskyhaha (talk) 09:50, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Tomskyhaha: There are 2 serious issues in this video: the sky is overblown, and it is shaking. Increasing the resolution, or the refresh rate, or the bitrate, won't improve the quality. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:56, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Yann: Yes the sky is overexposed, in fact I'm deliberately do so, otherwise the landscape would be too dark. I don't have the resource to buy professional equipments, just doing my best to record it. and so far no one uploaded similar content.
Yes, my recordings have a lot of shortcomings. But better than nothing, right? And because the quailty is already "so bad", no effort should be made to reduce it further. That's my opinion. Regards Tomskyhaha (talk) 10:24, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Tomskyhaha: You could also try User:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js. Documentation is on the talk page.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 12:48, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Thanks! I'll give it a try later. Regards Tomskyhaha (talk) 15:41, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Tomskyhaha: Good luck! I suggest a chunk size between the default 4 MiB and 1% (12.7 MB).   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 20:00, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

So I reproduced the problem after 8 hours' waiting; here are the screenshots, hopefully can give some clue for troubleshooting.

This problem occurs when I reach the 50 files per upload limit, trying with fewer files now.

Regards Tomskyhaha (talk) 15:41, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Finally got 'em uploaded after a week's trying. This won't be possible without you guys!

@Bidgee: @Yann: @Jeff G.: @Clpo13: @4nn1l2: (random order) and OpenCamera developer Mark-h providing WebM video direct high-bitrate capture on Android phones , and of course Geotagged subtitles. (despite lack of audio support, VP 8 codec, inactive development).

Some samples,_Fanhe_20190410_161336002.webm,_Fanhe_20190410_161336001.webm

All shot on a cheapo $150 phone.

Some segments are missing due to Wizard's quirks, FLAC audio and location subtitles are still yet to be uploaded.

Some thoughts

1. Since I'm no expert in computers, most processing procedures are done by hands, instead of by scripts. Definitely a waste of both time and energy. (and the passion of contributing)

Transfer to NAS.

Split videos up using ffmpeg.

Organize them into newly created folders for easily identifying them later. Don't forget the subtitles!

Upload with the Wizard.

Filling description fields particularly painful!, date of creation can't be extracted automatically from metadata, copypaste every one from file name. In order to preserve the order of splitted up video segments, renaming is done manually

Then hope it doesn't crash in the middle.

2. Maybe a script, which can extract images from videos according to the location given in subtitles, could make the videos more accessible.

It's already 2 a.m. here, time to sleep.

Regards Tomskyhaha (talk) 18:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Upload endet up as internal error[edit]

The upload of different pictures lead to an internal server error that a temporary file cound not be established. Strange message!

And the !-Icon mybe for further information does not work - what a developement

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver.Schulz (talk • contribs) 09:52, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Upload Wizard need improvement for metadata[edit]

Report a upload Problem

I am currently uploading a lot of images with the Upload Wizard. In general it is a good tool. But the new area for metadata is crazy. I have a lot of images, to which I like to add the same metadata (taken at the same location). Now I have to click each image separately – crazy. Can you please improve it in a way there I can select more or all images and add the same data? Or even better add it to the "Describe" page – than the creation is one step. Please implement the improvement fast and good – otherwise I will skip the metadata, sorry. --GodeNehler (talk) 08:00, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

@GodeNehler: Hi, see mw:How to report a bug how to file a feature request. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 04:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi Aklapper, my issue with metadata at the upload wizard:
- I have uploaded a lot of images (e.g. 50)
- I have add a license
- I add Category and a description
- at the same page it would be useful to add at the same page the metadata.
- I have often images with similar content, so it would be useful to copy down the metadata like it is possible for the description
- Next step is to apply the images with data at the upload wizard
- Now the page with metadata appears
- I can add metadata for the first file - works fine, also for the second one
- Problem for me: now the page is jumping back to the top and I have to scroll down again to the image, where I am working on. This is annoying. It seams to be that the page should load a preview of each image, which is not working well in my case. If the preview image is loaded, the page seams to work much better, but in my case preview is only loaded in 10% of the cases. I am using MacBook Pro from 2018 with chrome browser.
- For all following images, where I am working on at that page, I have to scroll down, which is really time consuming - and at the end I didn't add the metadata.
- It would be really a benefit, if the page would not always jumping back to the top.
--GodeNehler (talk) 16:06, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
@GodeNehler:Alright, but see mw:How to report a bug how to file a feature request. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 11:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Now I got it: I created the report T225358 – Thank you --GodeNehler (talk) 15:36, 8 June 2019 (UTC)