Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests

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Current requests[edit]

File:Ana Torin, 2023 (Toma vertical).jpg[edit]

Solicito la restauración de la imagen en cuestión. No entiendo por qué la eliminan si en la consulta de borrado tiene tres Manténgase. Agradezco su colaboración. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuchoVCJMuzik (talk • contribs) 14:41, 23 May 2023‎ (UTC)Reply[reply]

Symbol support vote.svg Support See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ana Torin, 2023 (Toma vertical).jpg. I don't think we need all of the various versions of this image -- but let's restore one. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Apparently there is Ticket:2023041310012681 for this image. What does it say? --Rosenzweig τ 21:53, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Rosenzweig, The ticket mentions three files viz: File:Renny_Manzano_en_Jesús_Villarreal_en_Bogotá,_2019.jpg, File:Ana_Torin,_2023_(Shot_vertical).jpg and File:Ana_Torin,_2023_(Shot_horizontal).jpg. The ticket is open and needs attention from agents who know Spanish. I feel all the files can be restored once the permission is verified and approved. ─ The Aafī (talk) 05:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suppose the horizontal one should be the one rightly linked on DR. File:Ana Torin, 2023 (Toma horizontal).jpg. Nonetheless, I Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose restoration prior to successful VRT verification. ─ The Aafī (talk) 05:17, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose restoring File:Renny_Manzano_en_Jesús_Villarreal_en_Bogotá,_2019.jpg as it is essentially a personal image. Bedivere (talk) 15:15, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Section photographique et cinématographique de l’armée[edit]

I believe these meet the requirement of being anonymous/pseudononymous. --RAN (talk) 20:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose In the interaction between you and User:Le Petit Chat in the DR, they explain that there is an accession code which, in most cases, leads directly to the name of the photographer. While a few of them may be anonymous, most are, apparently, not. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose For anonymous/pseudononymous works copyright expiration term depends on publication date that has not been provided. Ankry (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Pictogram voting comment (orange).svg Comment At least some photographers are really unknown. It is quite probable that many named photographers died before 1953, but a lot of work is needed to research them. I suggest that some images to be temporarily undeleted if anyone is really willing to do that work. Yann (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm OK with that in theory, but who is going to do it? We have a DR backlog of over 8,000 requests, and I would think those would take precedence for Admin time. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:57, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): If you are OK with doing this, please nominate the images you wish to work on for temporary undeletion. This would give you a week for finding the required information (death date for non-anonymous, publication date for anonymous). I don't believe that processing all of them in a week is real. Ankry (talk) 14:41, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
These weren't taken by professional photographers, but military people given cameras. They will no appear in lists of professional photographers, which is how we usually decipher images in which a mononym is given. --RAN (talk) 16:45, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In order to host these images we need to know (1) the named photographer death date or (2) the anonymous publication date or (3) that the photo was made more than 120 years ago. If noone volunteers to find any of them, then we have no option here but closing this as not done. Ankry (talk) 21:32, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:MOHAMADTAJ.jpg[edit]

عکس های بارگزاری شده در این صفحه متعلق به 60 الی 50 سال پیش می باشد و اثبات مطالب داخل متن صفحه می باشد با پاک کردن این عکس ها با توجه به قدیمی بودن اطلاعات و عدم اطلاعات در اینترنت امکان رفرنس دهی وجود ندارد. حتی عکس پروفیا را هم پاک کرده اید لطفا دلیل قانع کننده ارائه دهید تمامی عکس با ذکر توضیحات و مشخصات و سال بوده است واقعا دلیل حذف کردن آن برای چیست ؟؟؟؟ --Moghimzenderood (talk) 15:34, 7 June 2023 (UTC) Google translation: "The photos uploaded on this page belong to 60 to 50 years ago and the proof of the content is inside the text of the page. By deleting these photos, due to the old information and the lack of information on the Internet, it is not possible to refer. You have even deleted the profile photo, please provide a convincing reason. All the photos have been mentioned with the description, specifications and year. What is the reason for deleting it???? "Reply[reply]

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose

File description: "The meeting between the Isfahan Taj team and the Tehran Maidens and Ladies Association 1348" (Google translation of the entire file description).
File date: 05/23/2023

While this is an old photo (I think 1348 = 1929), there is no evidence that it was published until its upload here, so the copyright may have 30 years to run. Given the other uploads by this editor, I assume that Mohammad Moghim is in the photo, but the image is very blurred and I doubt that he can be identified. In order for it to be restored it must be proven both that it is in scope and that it was published before 1993. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:04, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Symbol support vote.svg Support I don't see any reason to doubt a publication at the time, but 1348 = 1929 is probably wrong. While is certainly pre-Iranian revolution, it looks like from the 1960s or 1970s. {{PD-Iran}} applies here. Yann (talk) 08:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes and no. I assumed the Islamic calendar, but it turns out Iran and Afghanistan use the Jalali calendar. 1348 is 1969. Note that Iranian law starts the copyright term with publication and there is no evidence that this was ever published. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:52, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:IMG-20230509-WA0038.jpg[edit]

"Mohammad Moqim is playing" -- B&W photo outdoors. Date, source, scope?

Hello! The picture belongs to the person identified in the Wikipedia page.those pics are from 50 or 60 years ago and these are the document for proving the content of the text of the page. please do not delete them.--Moghimzenderood (talk) 16:20, 7 June 2023 (UT

In regards to File:MOHAMADTEAM.jpg Please tell us which newspaper this is from and when. Abzeronow (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
hello this newspaper name was "Isfahan today" from more than 60 years ago in Isfahan Iran and after Iran's revolution it was closed. Moghimzenderood (talk) 07:49, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK, that's definitely better. Can you give us more specific information on when this was published by Isfahan Today so the source information and date information on the file is better? I'm inclined per the DR to Symbol support vote.svg Support but more information would be helpful to showing its scope here and improving its educational use. Abzeronow (talk) 15:55, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Comments above by me. The quoted words are the entire file description as translated from the Farsi by Google. The dates given are all in 2023. There are no useful categories.

There is a good question of how many, if any at all, of these are in scope. I ran several different Google searches and had no relevant hits on "Mohammad Moghim". They are obviously not the {{Own}} work of the uploader as claimed, so it is hard to know how much of what he says is correct. None of them have dates, places, or sources. Some are obviously old and possibly PD, but some are recent. The Iranian copyright period runs from publication and only one of these images is a halftone, so the rest may or may not have been published prior to their appearance here. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:49, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hello you can find relevant hits on "Mohamad Moghim" because you search his name in English? he was a Persian basketball player and if you search his name if Farsi as " محمد مقیم " you can fine many relevant hits. and about the "Own work of the uploaded" all this pics are from his family albums pics and his family allow us to use them for this page. some of these pic has no time but most of them have time and place and even we introduced the others people in the photos.
Some of the reasons for removing the photos are really unacceptable and illogical. Most of the information is related to 50-60 years ago in Iran, when there was no internet and no proper archive. For example, to prove that he was an international basketball referee, I put a photo of his international referee course certificate, but they ask me for a copyright certificate?!!!
this message : "Receive a certificate of appreciation" who? when? source of image? copyright on certificate?
what do you mean source of image?!!! Moghimzenderood (talk) 08:13, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The fact that you own a paper or digital copy of a photograph does not give you the right to freely license it as required here. That right remains with the photographer or his heirs unless there is a written license agreement. As I noted above, the Iranian copyright term begins with publication, so in the case of photos from old family albums, the copyright term probably started with their uploading here. In order for any of them to be restored, you must show that it was published before 1993.
In the case of the certificates, the certificates themselves have a copyright which must be considered.
I will stipulate that Mohamad Moghim is in scope, but many of the images of him are not.
.     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So what exactly do I have to do to get the photos back? please guide me Moghimzenderood (talk) 14:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
at least some of them? Moghimzenderood (talk) 14:02, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Photos coming out of old family albums are very difficult for Commons, especially in countries such as Iran that begin the copyright term with publication. As I said above, in order for any of them to be restored, you must show that it was published before 1993. If WP:FA accepts fair use, your only option may be to post them there. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think many of them might be in scope, but only if they are described well enough. The date, location and motif should be described well enough for somebody like me (not yet born 60 years ago, and not from Iran) to figure out what they are about ("the team of referees" – at what match or tournament? "Sports Park Basketball Team" – is that a name? An official team? What city? When? "Isfahan's selected team" – selected by whom, for what, when? and so on). Sometimes, of course, you don't know the date or even year when some photo was taken, but I assume you know some time span. Tell that instead of the date of upload or digitising.
For the copyright side, your picking the photo from your family album doesn't make you the author (don't claim {{Own}}). Many family album photographs are {{Unknown}}, sometimes you might know who took it (such as if your grandfather was an eager photographer and they are by him). Sadly, as only the author has the right to publish the photos (also in Iran, I assume), you need to know who they are to get a permission from their heirs and thus for us to legally host them (unless they are in the public domain for some reason).
–LPfi (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I did not include the possibility of getting permission from the photographers' heirs because they don't have the look of family photos -- I think that most, maybe all, were taken by various professionals. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:33, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
how should I can prove that these photos were published before 1979 in Iran . I know who took most of these pictures .He was a professional sport photographer and he was Mohamad Moghim close friend who his name is "Mohamad Allaee" but he pass away some years ago . I really can not understand your policy first you asked me for not deleting his page we use photos that can prove the text and then you delete the pic because of licence! In the most pics I describe the name of people, time and scope but if you thing it is not enough please back the pics and allow us to correct them. at least for one time again? Moghimzenderood (talk) 15:05, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
these photos were taken before 1979 in Iran :
MGHBOOSTAN.jpg
MGHDOKHTARAN.jpg
MGHESFAHAN.jpg
MGHHISCOOL.jpg
MGHISFAHAN.jpg
MGHSARBAZI.jpg
MOHAMAD WATWR.jpg
MOHAMADDO.jpg
MOHAMADDOKHTARAN.jpg
MOHAMADHAVADAR.jpg
MOHAMADMGH1.jpg
MOHAMADPARTAB1.jpg
MOHAMADSAKO.jpg
MOHAMADSHOT.jpg
MOHAMADTAJ.jpg
MOHAMADTEAM.jpg
MOHAMADUSZ.jpg
these photos were taken between 1979 to 1993:
MGHPISHKESVATAN.jpg
MOHAMADDAVAR1.jpg
MOHAMADDAVAR2.jpg
MOHAMADPISH.jpg
MOHAMADSANGAPOR.jpg
these photos were taken nearly:
MOHAMADPISHKESVATAN
File:MGHYADBOOD.jpg Moghimzenderood (talk) 15:28, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Symbol support vote.svg Support Pre-revolution pictures. {{PD-Iran}} applies to them. Yann (talk) 08:24, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yann, help me here. I don't see anything at COM:IRAN that gives any special status to pre-revolutionary photographs. Also note that many of these are from after the revolution. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pictures are in the public domain after 30 years from the date of publication, so every picture published before 1979 is in the public domain in Iran. It is quite easy to see the difference between pre- and post-revolution pictures (clothing, etc., e.g. File:MGHDOKHTARAN.jpg). And historical pictures are automatically in scope. Pictures published between 1979 and 1992 are also in the public domain in Iran, but it may be difficult to verify the date. Yann (talk) 13:57, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thanks most of these pics were taken before 1979 I thing just some of them like "File:MOHAMADPISHKESVATAN.jpg" which is for 4 years ago and was taken with mobile of his daughter or " File:MGHYADBOOD.jpg " is 2 days after his death about 1 month ago. Moghimzenderood (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yann, as you say, the copyright term begins with publication, not creation. Only one of these is a halftone and there is no evidence that any others have been published. As Moghimzenderood says, they all came out of a family album. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:45, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
so what should I do now? please guide me. Moghimzenderood (talk) 15:59, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I haven't seen the images, but I assume it is unlikely that professional photos would have been made for a family album. I assume Mohammad Moghim (?) got a copy that he saved in the family album, while other copies were used commercially. Could more of them have been published in Isfahan today? Would some have ended up in a club paper? For important matches some may have been published in national papers. Are there good archives where these could be found? Did he save clips from the papers? LPfi (talk) 17:17, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
you can find some of his pics in some website like [1]https://www.irbasketball.com/moghim/ .as I said before these pics were taken by a professional sport photographer and he was Mohamad Moghim close friend who his name is "Mohamad Allaee" but he passed away some years ago and perhaps he gave these pics to his family. Moghimzenderood (talk) 18:04, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:NLC471-043021505010006-4091 農產：合作社篇.pdf (1948)[edit]

All of them are {{PD-China}}. The deletion reason is "no license tag". I think it is possibly due to some error in template. --虹易 (talk) 09:21, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@虹易: There is indeed no license. These files use Template:Local Record in the National Library of China which doesn't exist. We need to know the date of first publication and/or the author. Yann (talk) 09:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is a typo. The template should be {{Local Records in the National Library of China}}.--虹易 (talk) 01:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Five, Symbol support vote.svg Support three. I have noted the date of publication given in each of the file descriptions. Five of them are after 1946. Since Chinese copyright for anonymous works lasts for fifty years, the five were under Chinese copyright on the 1996 URAA date and therefore are under copyright in the USA until 95 years after publication. The three earlier works are PD and may be restored. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:26, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. I would like to add: the fourth one "A compilation of decrees of the Northeast People's Government" is an administrative publication by the government. It should be copyright free.--虹易 (talk) 01:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Keno mini wargame.jpg[edit]

I believe this image does not violate the copyrights of Games Workshop because none of the figurines in the image are shown in sufficient detail that one could replicate their designs. In fact, you can barely tell that they're Warhammer 40,000 figurines, only a few of them are recognizable. I think that this image therefore should be permitted under the principle of de minimis. I don't think the fact that the humans have been cropped out should make a difference. Kurzon (talk) 18:18, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Restore Files[edit]

Hello. I ask you to restore the file photo of a member of the Soviet underground youth anti-fascist organization. I installed a new one yesterday, but it was removed. Restore the old one then. Граф Рауль Валуа (talk) 07:52, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Symbol support vote.svg Support as per above. {{PD-Russia}} applies. Yann (talk) 08:27, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pictogram-voting question.svg Question What has changed since Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Members of Young Guard (Soviet resistance) was decided? --Rosenzweig τ 12:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I decided to immediately merge the files I need, if I write, I will still submit requests. Граф Рауль Валуа (talk) 18:54, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Yann: More precisely: which secttion of {{PD-Russia}} applies in your opinion and why? Ankry (talk) 17:26, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Граф Рауль Валуа: The copyright template used by the uploader claims that the photographer died more than 79 years ago. It cannot be applied if the photographer is unknown. For unknown photographers, we need to know a pre-1946 publication of the photos in order to claim them {{PD-Russia}}. Ankry (talk) 17:26, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Banderas de los Partidos de la Provincia de Buenos Aires[edit]


All the files listed above were deleted by CommonsDelinker bot, it must be restored to his original state because the articles linked to these files are broken. Wolfgang 7 (talk) 13:59, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How does this justify undeletion? Trade (talk) 14:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Because these flags are from municipalities of the Buenos Aires Province, Argentina, and are publics. Wolfgang 7 (talk) 14:07, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We need a copyright law reason to undelete. Abzeronow (talk) 16:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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