Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2011/May Meeting/Notes/Results

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Wiki Loves Monuments meetup
Friday 13th, 14th and 15th May 2011, Betahaus, Berlin

Result wrapup[edit]

Five lessons from 2010
  • Easy to participate
  • Attractive/Fun to do
  • Nearby your home
  • Help Wikipedia
  • Results should be quick and visible to the participants
Main obstacles for national organizers
  • List of monuments
  • Upload Wizard
  • Volunteers
  • Sponsors/partners
  • Many prototypes/no tools
Agreed upon
  • Technical:
    • We should not have multiple login layers
    • Upload form should be country specified
    • Uploader should be sent directly to their own country's upload form: customized upload wizard on Commons
    • We are going to build a central api/mapping tool
    • An ImageViewer for all the jurys could be done to help them in judging photos
  • Non technical:
    • Rules (local rules may different, these are the European):
    • Photos has to be self-taken and self-uploaded
    • Uploaded in September (to Commons but perhaps also Flickr etc. if you agree on that locally)
    • License defaults to CC-BY-SA 3.0
    • We need an identifier of the monument
    • You need to confirm the e-mail-adress (so WLM can reach you)
    • European judging criteria
    • Nominated by local contests (10 images from each country)
Technical quality
  • Sharpness, use of light, perspective, color hue, megapixels (?), what about retouched images? (overprocessed images were excluded last year -> have to be realistic)
  • Originality
  • Usefulness for Wikipedia
Jury composition criteria
  • 2 Professional photographers/Photo editors
  • 2 Heritage specialists (one from Europeana) i.e., Council of Europe (probably from the European Heritage Days)
  • 3 Wikimedians (ideas: Winner of POTY/WLM10, list specialist, someone involved with organizing Commons POTY)
  • Facilitator
  • Total of 8 people (7 voting)
Timeline
  • End of August: Major PR announcements
  • Start contest: September 1
  • End conterst: September 30
  • Deadline formation European jury: September 30
  • National jury deadline: October 31
  • European jury deadline: November 21
  • Prize announcement: DISH is 6-9 December

Website[edit]

  • Every national organization is resonsible for their own website, code sharing is encouraged.

Budget[edit]

  • TOTAL: Worst case scenario: 10.300€ + shipping − Best-case scenario: 3.000€
  • Prizes (1.500€) (if no sponsors are found)
  • Printing 500+ calendars (WMPL will find budget locally): 3.000 euro
  • shipping + boxes, winning messages and so on. ( 200 for finalists + 300 for the chapters)
  • Intl. thankyou goodies (calendars will go for that now)
  • grant system for chapters that need help. 1.500 euro
  • Optional: Jury costs? (7 people (says 8 above)): 2.400 (travel) + 400 (hotel) + 200 (meeting room) + 300 (living costs) = 3.300 euro
  • Announcement costs? 1.000 euro (worst case)

Prizes[edit]

  • if possible to be provided by the sponsors
  • n-th prize winner will get the n-th choice

Announcements, PR[edit]

Potential partners[edit]

  • NGOs
  • tourism offices
  • public administration offices: from local offices for protection of heritage or alike up to ministery of culture/national heritage or alike
  • use national chapters of European level partners (CoE etc)
  • owners of the monuments (i.e. museums, associations of owners of monuments)
  • groups/organisations of potential contest participants
  • Photographer organizations
  • Local contests
  • Monument related magazines
  • Religious organizations
  • Schools/elderly organizations
  • Tourist office/institutions
  • Use European Heritage Day to promote WLM (middle/end September)
  • The world wide ones: Might not be in time for this year, but for next year, start already for next year...

What can they help with:[edit]

  • PR
  • Prize
  • organize local events
  • contact other potential partners
  • credibility
  • approach specific target groups

Tips 'n Tricks[edit]

  • Maarten has developed some tools to work with datas and batch uploading.
  • Commonist (maybe customized)
  • If you don't get the right contacts locally, contact Maarten! For example, make Council of Europe call the institution you want to collaborate with.
  • Get introduced in different institutions
  • Federal problems can sometimes be tackled by giving power to the locals - let them approach their local institutions
  • Statistics are a good way to get people motivated.
  • Thank people
  • Jury: get them together in real life!
  • Get local: locan events can motivate people to participate.
  • Free Publicity is useful.
  • Use existing communities (Flickr, etc.)
  • Contact OSM and Creative Commons
  • If you have handwritten or paper lists, you can ask for help at Wikisource (lists are probably PD-gov or something)
  • Split up the work so a few people does not have to do all the work. For example:
  • Some work on getting the lists of monuments
  • Tech people working with data and identifiers
  • Some work on arranging the contest
  • Helpdesk/hotline for helping people upload pictures on Commons

Action points[edit]

  • Raymond: keep an eye on and get in touch with the Account Creation Improvement Project.
  • Maarten: get the right people in touch with Layar folks
  • Maarten: make sure the Europa Nostra article gets published
  • Tomasz: Do the calendars stuff and find the sponsors.
  • Tim: Get us in touch with Open Streetmap people
  • Maarten: work on a tool to transfer data to templates
  • Elke: Come up with better definition for technical quality jury criterium
  • Maarten: take the lead on formation European jury
  • Kilian: Take the lead on travel agency prizes
  • Nuno: Find out if there are interesting prize opportunities in Guimarães that is cultural capital in 2012
  • Nicole: Check out Zeiss opportunities
  • Alice: get inormation about Wikipic, where you can find pictures independent of description, language etc, it was developed by Daniel Kinzler of WM Germany.
  • Hay: Fix the European website (list of millions of detailed "suggestions" on meeting page)
  • Niklas: Get in touch with Maarten about national heritage board
  • Julia: see what religious organizations might be interesting, write a short introduction about the topic to the mailing list, check out European Youth Forum, UNESCO stuff
  • Andrea: check out San Marino & San Maarten (contact Delphine)
  • SJ: spread the word with world wide cultural institutions
  • Raymond: Set up OTRS system for WLM
  • Maarten: Make sure of @wikilovesmonuments.eu redirects
  • Maarten: Partnering with DISH
  • JeanFred: Write email to maillist for village pump announcement so we don't forget.
  • Many prototypes/no tools -> AP Maarten, send email.
  • Platonides: Take the lead on getting the API finished
  • Tomasz will do the goodies checking - what is possible and what is not.
  • Michael: send around email with the results and link to full notes.

Open issues[edit]

  • do we accept only CC-BY-SA or also PD, CC-BY, ...)? -- All free licenses are accepted, tool use CC by default.
  • set up the Helpdesk/hotline : Do it all local, ideally on Wikipedia (large userbase to help answer). If you have organizational questions, do it on the mailing list. Set up central helpdesk on Commons. Link it from wikilovesmonuments.eu.
  • Technical issues to make uploads easier:
  • Uploadform/wizard: being worked on, not done yet
  • Commonist tool: nothing happened, unfortunately.
  • Monuments API: Worked on it, set up infrastructure, won't be finished this weekend.
  • Conversion tool (csv2templatelist): Daniel is working on that, link: http://area23.brightbyte.de/csv2template.php
  • Goodies
  • Statistics and visualization of the results

The Wall of Good Ideas & Problems[edit]

WLM 2011, The Wall of Good Ideas & Problems.jpg


IRC meetings[edit]

Let's do May 28, 20:00 (CEST).