Commons talk:Deceased contributors

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Opt out (of the list Deceased contributors)[edit]

  1. Sargoth (talk) 12:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
  2. --Marco Aurelio (disputatio) 14:54, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
  3. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:58, 8 December 2014 (UTC), I don't want to be mentioned on enwiki's list either.
  4. --A.Savin 10:43, 29 June 2015 (UTC), I don't want to be mentioned on any other wiki's list either, especially not on dewiki's list.

Just some comments[edit]

As mentioned at the Village pump I have seen in the list people who have contributed for only 1 or 2 days. Just as an example: user 'Canadagirl' has contributed for one day and has uploaded one photo. I even question whether is was her own photo. No meta data and 6 hits on TinEye. How did she came on the list? Just a note of an other user on her talk page to mention that she has died including the date of birth and death? The 'real name' is also mentioned in most of the cases. Who revealed the names and decided to put the names in the list? Is that in accordance to the will of the deceased person? Further I would expect only names of people who have contributed significantly to Commons. It is difficult to define 'significantly', but one can think of contributed for at least 4 month AND at least 100 contributions OR there is a page as mentioned in the column 'Memorial'.Wouter (talk) 20:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

She and all others currently on the list come on that list because I, who had the idea for it and created it after becoming aware of the recent death of a Commons user, created it. The real names as well as the notifications and dates of death come from the corresponding local memorial pages, where they had been published earlier than here. I asked for inclusion criteria at my first rfc at COM:AN on April 21st, but there was very little feedback. --Túrelio (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

RFC: How inclusive should our memorial list be?[edit]

As per Wouter's above comment and other users comments at Forum and COM:AN, I repeat my earlier[1] request for comment on the inclusion criteria for this list.

In the (still current) draft I had included all users, of whom I knew (mostly from local memorial pages) that they had died and who had own edits on Commons. (well, today I detected one additional deceased 1-upload user[2]) Some of the currently included users have very few edits/uploads. What inclusion criteria are used on the local memorials? Expressed inclusion criteria I found only on :en „they have made at least several hundred edits or are otherwise known for substantial contributions to Wikipedia“ and :es "Solamente se incluirá a aquellos que hayan formado parte integrante de esta comunidad y realizaron varios cientos de ediciones.", whereas the large memorial on :de seems to go without such a restriction.

On the other hand, there are a few deceased users with a lot of own images on Commons, who never edited themselves on Commons and whose images were transferred by others to Commons. As of yet, I haven’t included them. --Túrelio (talk) 13:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

So there are at least 2 points of discussion.

  • Should inclusion in our list require a defined threshold/minimum of activity on Commons? number of edits, uploads, uploads of self-created material, etc.? duration/period of activity?
Opinion of 4028mdk09 is: all users with an self-created account of whose death we know for sure and who haven't opted-out (see above), should be included in the list, independent of their edit-count or duration of activity. The memorial shouldn't become a sort of "Best of ...". --(voiced in German on my talkpage and translated by me) Túrelio (talk) 19:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Should users without own edits, but with images (only self-created?) on Commons that were originally uploaded to other WMF projects and later transferred to Commons by other users, be included in the list?

to do/add[edit]

message templates/samples for userpage of deceased users (from different projects)[edit]

1[edit]

Absolute bougies 01.jpgThis Wikimedian has passed away. Their user page is preserved here in their memory.

2[edit]

XXXX ist verstorben. Eine Kondolenzliste wurde eingerichtet: User:XXXX/condolences.

3[edit]

Unser Kollege und Freund XXX ist am 1. März 2007 im Alter von 25 Jahren verstorben. Die Wikipedia-Autoren kondolieren der Familie und den Freunden aus tiefstem Herzen.


4[edit]

Hinweis: XXXX ist am 12. Mai 2008 verstorben; siehe xx:XXXX.

5[edit]

XXXX ist am 20. Juli 2009 verstorben.

6[edit]

Christian cross.svg XXXX ist im Dezember 2010 verstorben. Seinen Angehörigen gilt unser Mitleid.

  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose The cross is the Christianity symbol. The template shouldn't depend on a religion -- George Chernilevsky talk 06:47, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
My idea with this presentation wasn't necessarily to choose/offer only 1 option. Besides, at least for the German-speaking countries in the context of death this symbol isn't universally associated with Christianity. --Túrelio (talk) 07:55, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
OK. My sample added below -- George Chernilevsky talk 10:20, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

7[edit]

Hinweis: Dieser Benutzer ist leider verstorben.

Père-Lachaise - Division 10 - Gareau 06.jpg

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Good, but the picture has to be at the left -- George Chernilevsky talk 07:08, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support, IMO the picture should be at the right Lotje (talk) 13:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

8[edit]

Kerze 2007k.JPG
XXXX

Verstarb am 5. Oktober 2012. Wir werden sie in Erinnerung behalten.

9[edit]

Lilium formosanum var pricei.jpg 不幸地,Deceased contributors已經逝世,因此無法答覆您的提問,让我们永远缅怀他/她。

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10[edit]

Kerze 2007k.JPG
User Dr. Manfred Holz has passed away. His user page is preserved here in his memory.

Dr. Manfred Holz
July 25, 1938 — October 22, 2013

Condolences

Additional opinion[edit]

It is necessary to add to template IMO:

  • Nickname (Sample: User XXXX has passed away.)
  • Real name (if known)
  • Date of birth (if known)
  • Death date
  • Link to condolences

If information isn't known, empty lines not to display. -- George Chernilevsky talk 06:58, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Just sample. With full info:

Kerze 2007k.JPG
User XXXX has passed away. Their user page is preserved here in their memory.

Aaaa B. Cccccccc
01.October.1923 — 01.May.2013

Link to condolences

Without full info:

Kerze 2007k.JPG
User XXXX has passed away. Their user page is preserved here in their memory.


 ? — 01.May.2013

Link to condolences

-- George Chernilevsky talk 10:17, 15 June 2013 (UTC)